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Credlin | 11 June · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Krendland live on Sky Ingins Australia. Good evening, Welcome
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Speaker 1: to the Credlin Chimes. Steve Price filling in for another week.
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Speaker 1: He is what's coming up on Kredline tonight. I think
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Speaker 1: we can all smell an early election with battle lines
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Speaker 1: drawn on climate and cost of living polls in our
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Speaker 1: neck and neck. And Peter Dutton has today taken on
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Speaker 1: the teals Anthony Albanez. He had a late afternoon media conference.
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Speaker 1: I'll see what Sky's Andrew Clanell makes of the latest
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Speaker 1: developments coming up speaking of cost of living. Food Bank
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Speaker 1: Australia and this is disgraceful, says they are seeing increasing
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Speaker 1: numbers of working Australians joining queues for food donations. Their
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Speaker 1: chief executive, David McNamara, will explain what he's seeing. The
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Speaker 1: disgraceful decision to award the most damaging COVID premier of
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Speaker 1: them all, Daniel Andrews, Australia's highest civilian honor on King's
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Speaker 1: Birthday weekend has rocked Victoria, with ninety five percent of
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Speaker 1: peace people who voted in a Herald Sun poll condemning
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Speaker 1: the decision. I'll catch up with the Opposition's Brad Batten
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Speaker 1: and suspicion around battery life and resale value has smashed
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Speaker 1: a massive hole in the sales of electric vehicles Pioneer
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Speaker 1: Tesla in particular, and now the lack of a national
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Speaker 1: charging infrastructure is causing more headaches for potential customers. Murdering
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Speaker 1: expert Paul Gover will be up later in the program,
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Speaker 1: but first up tonight. Look, I think it's about time
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Speaker 1: the police commissioners of Australia's two biggest jurisdictions Sydney and Melbourne,
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Speaker 1: got together with the heads of ASIO and the AFP
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Speaker 1: and worked out a coordinated plan to deal with radical
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Speaker 1: splinter groups that have clearly infiltrated these so called pro
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Speaker 1: Palestinian rallies. Australians are sick and tired of the dangerous, violent,
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Speaker 1: aggressive vandals and agitators being allowed to get away with
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Speaker 1: plowing through our major cities on an almost daily basis.
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Speaker 1: This has ceased to have anything to do with the
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Speaker 1: Middle East conflict and it's turned into a radical left
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Speaker 1: group of anti Semites being allowed to damage property, shout
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Speaker 1: violent slogans and taunt police. Now the reason the commissioners
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Speaker 1: need to get together is to better protect the public
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Speaker 1: Jewish Australians in particular, and protect their own offices, I
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Speaker 1: might say. And if you want some evidence, look no
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Speaker 1: further than last Sunday in Melbourne. There were an estimated
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Speaker 1: three thousand protests. That's something called a free Palestine rally.
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Speaker 1: I mean seriously, three thousand and and we're led to
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Speaker 1: believe this is pro Palestine. I'll bet my life on it.
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Speaker 1: There were more jew haters there than people who care
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Speaker 1: a jot about Palestine. And why do I think that? Well,
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Speaker 1: thanks to an eyewitness who posted vision and audio on Twitter, which,
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Speaker 1: even as we have censored the language, is still shocking.
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Speaker 2: Run run, run your log God.
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Speaker 1: So that's a peaceful pro Palestinian rally, is it?
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Speaker 3: Now?
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Speaker 1: In a second, I'll tell you what a pro Palestine
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Speaker 1: spokesman said on radio yesterday and the absurd accusations that
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Speaker 1: ought to be condemned. But back to this so called
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Speaker 1: rally for the beleagued people of Gaza. Now, these police,
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Speaker 1: the police you saw in that vision clearly do not
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Speaker 1: want to be there, and many of them are busting
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Speaker 1: I should tell you from regional and rural Victoria, because
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Speaker 1: Victoria's police Commissioner Shane Patten has run out of city
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Speaker 1: based troops because this is week thirty five of these rallies,
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Speaker 1: thirty five in a row, thirty five weeks and what
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Speaker 1: is our brave passionate protester concerned with the bombing of
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Speaker 1: Gaza Saying to country cops from vic Pol, he shouts out,
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Speaker 1: run you effing dogs, run effing rats. Nine News reported
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Speaker 1: police had signs and bottles thrown at them, one officer
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Speaker 1: was spat on, all while trying to detain someone who
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Speaker 1: they say had lit na flair. Police say they were
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Speaker 1: confronted by a crowd of two hundred angry people that
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Speaker 1: broke off from the three thousand. They were described as
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Speaker 1: hostile and eventually pepper spray was used to break this
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Speaker 1: mob up. But what does the Australia Palestine Advocacy Network president,
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Speaker 1: a bloke called Nasar Mashni, tell Melbourne Radio about this yesterday?
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Speaker 1: He claims police just casually decided to use pepper spray
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Speaker 1: before tensions erupted.
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Speaker 4: Look, I'm very disappointed in the actions of a few
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Speaker 4: police that decided that at that moment. Thirty five weeks later,
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Speaker 4: tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of peaceful protesters that
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Speaker 4: are marching for justice for Palestine, justice for the Palestinian,
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Speaker 4: to stop the invasion, and that he decided to engage
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Speaker 4: his the train.
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Speaker 1: Well, this bloke must be deaf. He then says he
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Speaker 1: was disappointed in the actions of a few Maybe we
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Speaker 1: hoped he was going to say radical protesters, but no,
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Speaker 1: he was disappointed in the few police actions. He raves
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Speaker 1: on about thirty five weeks of peaceful protest, hundreds of
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Speaker 1: thousands of peaceful protesters marching for justice. He makes it
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Speaker 1: sound like a bunch of hippies dancing through the streets,
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Speaker 1: when the reality is much darker and much more threatening
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Speaker 1: than any of that. This network ran an outstanding documentary
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Speaker 1: Sky a few weeks back, fronted by ex Treasurer Josh Fredenberg,
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Speaker 1: that exposed the ugly rise of rampant anti Semitism right
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Speaker 1: across Australia. Politicians from both sides and police praised what
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Speaker 1: that documentary showed. I then ask, why aren't our authorities
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Speaker 1: doing anything about any of this? And don't give me
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Speaker 1: garbage about freedom of protest and free speech lectures. Since
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Speaker 1: when can you shout at police, call them iffing dogs
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Speaker 1: and worse. And if these people really are so concerned
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Speaker 1: about Palestine, why don't you separate yourselves from these verbal
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Speaker 1: thugs who care nothing more than nothing more than professional
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Speaker 1: anarchists pretending to back your course. Now, New South Wales
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Speaker 1: and Victorian governments need to show some guts here, ban
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Speaker 1: these dangerous marches and give the cities back to law
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Speaker 1: abiding people. Well, don't you have the backbone? Let's head
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Speaker 1: to Cameron now for tonight's political headlines with Sky News
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Speaker 1: political reporter cam Redden.
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Speaker 5: Good evening, the Coalition will not commit to a new
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Speaker 5: twenty thirty climate target before the next election.
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Speaker 6: Targets otherwise, we'll make those decisions when we're in government.
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Speaker 7: So instead of chasing investment in new industries with new
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Speaker 7: opportunities and new jobs, he's chasing them away.
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Speaker 8: They have abandoned these inner city.
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Speaker 5: Seats without an interim target. Some Liberals are seemingly unclear
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Speaker 5: about what voters will have to judge them on what.
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Speaker 3: We do for twenty forty in the other years in
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Speaker 3: between twenty fifty will be an ouse.
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Speaker 8: I'm sure before the election.
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Speaker 1: But mister Dutton today was pretty clear. He said we'll
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Speaker 1: work that out after foreign government.
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Speaker 9: I'm very sure that Ted and Peter will have this
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Speaker 9: all worked out.
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Speaker 7: Peter Dutton is divisive, The Coalition are divided.
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Speaker 5: China's Premier Leee Young will visit Australia this weekend. Over
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Speaker 5: the four day visit, the Prime Minister will raise the
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Speaker 5: plight of detained Australian Young Hen Jun. He'll also push
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Speaker 5: for the removal of remaining trade tariffs and raise recent
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Speaker 5: incidents between our militaries.
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Speaker 7: So we will continue to put forward our arguments there
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Speaker 7: as we will continue to pursue Australia's interest.
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Speaker 5: Queensland's Treasurer is promising billions of dollars in cost of
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Speaker 5: living relief in his final budget before the state election.
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Speaker 10: We make no apology for going into deficit so we
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Speaker 10: can ensure Queensland families their family budget stays in balance.
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Speaker 5: Driver's license charges will be frozen, while car regio fees
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Speaker 5: will be slashed by twenty percent. First home buyer concessions
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Speaker 5: will be extended for properties up to seven hundred thousand dollars.
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Speaker 5: The extra spending giving labor a two point six billion
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Speaker 5: dollar deficit.
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Speaker 3: This is a budget for the next four months, not
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Speaker 3: the next four years. It's just proven again that the
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Speaker 3: Labor government will say and do anything to get reelected.
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Speaker 1: Well, as we mentioned the Prime Minister Anthony Alberneze, he's
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Speaker 1: had a late afternoon media conference in camera. It seemed
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Speaker 1: to me that he made an announcement about the visit
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Speaker 1: by the Chinese premier and then launched into an attack
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Speaker 1: on Peter Dutton around climate policy, which I think was
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Speaker 1: probably the reason why he wanted to have this media conference.
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Speaker 1: Sky News's political editor Andrew Clannel joins Peter at this
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Speaker 1: time each week and joins us now. It seemed like
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Speaker 1: the Chinese announcement was just sort of, you know, a
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Speaker 1: buy product, and that he used the rest of that
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Speaker 1: media conference to whack Peter Dutton over this twenty thirty policy. Andrew,
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Speaker 1: how are you?
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Speaker 11: I'm well, Steve, Well, yes, I mean he wouldn't confirm
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Speaker 11: yesterday the visit, which we've been reporting for days, not weeks,
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Speaker 11: until the Chinese were putting out a joint statement, so
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Speaker 11: I guess he was pushing that formality out there. But
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Speaker 11: there's no doubt Peter Dutton has given a press conference
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Speaker 11: today where TV grabs were going to be used in
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Speaker 11: terms of his stance on a twenty thirty target climate
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Speaker 11: change target. So I guess the Prime Minister was keen
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Speaker 11: to get a run as well, Steve. That's the way
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Speaker 11: these things work. And yeah, he thinks that there's fertile
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Speaker 11: ground to attack Peter Dutton over not being consistent on
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Speaker 11: a climate change target. He thinks that it would be
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Speaker 11: very difficult for Peter Dutton in so called teal seats
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Speaker 11: as a result of that. Peter Dutton, on the other hand,
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Speaker 11: he knows that this site in Australian politics often goes
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Speaker 11: from concern about climate change after fires and floods to
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Speaker 11: concern about power bills in the cost of living crunch.
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Speaker 11: So I think Dutton thinks it's the right time to
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Speaker 11: tack in the other direction on climate change, and that's
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Speaker 11: exactly what he's doing.
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Speaker 1: I'll dig into the detail of Dutton with you in
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Speaker 1: a sect. You know, I'm not a conspiracy theorist and
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Speaker 1: never have been, and neither are. You just stuck out
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Speaker 1: to me in this announcement about Premier Lee's visit. Now,
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Speaker 1: if you're coming to Australia and you're a senior Chinese
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Speaker 1: leader and no one's been here since twenty seventeen, would
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Speaker 1: you really choose Adelaide, Canberra and Perth as your destinations,
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Speaker 1: ignoring Sydney and Melbourne. And is it a coincidence that
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Speaker 1: Perth and Adelaide are where the orcast submarine program is
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Speaker 1: going to be based.
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Speaker 11: Oh, I don't think it'd be to do with Orcus.
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Speaker 11: I mean, he wouldn't like to talk about August, the premier,
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Speaker 11: but it may well have been coordinated. So there are announcements,
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Speaker 11: whether that be about the lifting of the lobster fisher
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Speaker 11: ban or about pandas in Adelaide or whatever it is. Steve,
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Speaker 11: it may well be that it's been a line to
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Speaker 11: those sorts of things. So obviously the two governments or
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Speaker 11: officials would have worked that out. But from the federal
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Speaker 11: government's point of view too, I mean they would see
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Speaker 11: in Perth him getting a better audience in terms of
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Speaker 11: the mining industry, so I suspect that played into events.
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Speaker 11: But yes, I'm sure the Premier would prefer to have
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Speaker 11: at least a visit to Sydney, such a beautiful place,
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Speaker 11: you know, But he doesn't get that opportunity, does he.
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Speaker 11: It was very deliberately held in a non sitting week,
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Speaker 11: so there was no discomfort this is what I understand, Steve.
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Speaker 11: So there was no discomfort over no address to Parliament
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Speaker 11: as President G had the pleasure of doing when Tony
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Speaker 11: Abbott was Prime Minister in twenty fourteen, and that would
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Speaker 11: have been very difficult. Indeed, had he come during a
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Speaker 11: parliamentary week or expected some sort of address to Parliament.
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Speaker 11: I guess he's the second in charge as well, but
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Speaker 11: they're not even a democracy, so you wouldn't have them
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Speaker 11: addressed parliament.
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Speaker 1: The Peter Dutton performance today and the gamble that the
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Speaker 1: Coalition now appears to be taking with this walking away
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Speaker 1: from any targets for twenty thirty, the Prime Minister couldn't
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Speaker 1: resist coming out today and responding to that, how much
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Speaker 1: of a carrot is being dangled in front of the
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Speaker 1: PM by Peter Dutton to bring on an election over
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Speaker 1: climate and do it quickly.
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Speaker 11: Well, he'll take any excuse to go at the end
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Speaker 11: of the year, I would have thought so if this
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Speaker 11: is an excuse, then he'll take advantage of it. Maybe
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Speaker 11: it's the opportunity he's been wanting. I mean, I saw
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Speaker 11: the newspaper journalists speculate on that today. I don't think
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Speaker 11: Albanez he can go in September before Queensland. I think
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Speaker 11: that would just that would just look too early. But
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Speaker 11: he knows in three weeks the tax cuts are coming
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Speaker 11: in the energy bill, relief for coming, so I guess
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Speaker 11: there is an opportunity there. I would have thought more
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Speaker 11: November December. I think they're on that track anyway, because
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Speaker 11: the way the economy's going, they're not expecting a rate
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Speaker 11: cut until at least next year, and maybe after an
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Speaker 11: election's due next year, So wouldn't you rather take the
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Speaker 11: gamble early? But he probably hasn't made up his mind.
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Speaker 11: Peter Dutton's positions interesting on this one, Steve. I mean
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Speaker 11: I saw a reporter on the weekend that he opposed
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Speaker 11: the government's twenty thirty target. If you can get your
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Speaker 11: head around this, I think the more accurate description of
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Speaker 11: this is Peter Dutton doesn't support that target, so he's
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Speaker 11: not opposed to it per se. He's just saying, well,
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Speaker 11: you're not going to meet it, so there's no point
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Speaker 11: even discussing it other than the fact that you're not
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Speaker 11: going to meet it. The big test will be due
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Speaker 11: in February next year, the twenty thirty five target, and
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Speaker 11: that I dare say the coalitions would be lower than Labors.
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Speaker 11: But of course this is kind of coalitionigned with the
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Speaker 11: UN the twenty thirty one, so that's why he's careful
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Speaker 11: not to say we're changing that, because then you'd have
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Speaker 11: to pull out of it all together. The International Agreement is.
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Speaker 1: The coalition at one on this entry. I mean you've
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Speaker 1: got Matt Canavan and Barnaby Joyce calling for the whole
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Speaker 1: Paris Agreement to be scrapped to walk away from that.
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Speaker 1: How's this going down in the joint party room do
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Speaker 1: you believe?
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Speaker 11: Well, they've never been at one on it, and Alben
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Speaker 11: Easy knows that too, that he can split them over it.
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Speaker 11: But the Moderates, you know, they haven't got a lot
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Speaker 11: of members left in there, so there's not a lot
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Speaker 11: of muscling up on that side. And the Nationals had
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Speaker 11: already made clear. I think David Little proud and said
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Speaker 11: in about April that he didn't support the twenty thirty target.
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Speaker 11: So a concern for the Liberals is always getting the
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Speaker 11: Nationals on now. To get the zero target by twenty fifty,
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Speaker 11: Scott Morrison had to work very hard on the Nationals
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Speaker 11: and he was pretty lucky to get that over the line.
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Speaker 11: So I'm sure Peter Dutton is cognizant of all those
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Speaker 11: difficulties as well.
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Speaker 1: I see Peter Dutton. He gave the Teal member for
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Speaker 1: mckeller a whack, and you've got all of these other
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Speaker 1: seats where the Teals obviously took off the coalition last
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Speaker 1: time we took about place like Higgins Kujong, with Higgins
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Speaker 1: about to be about to be scrapped, a lot of
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Speaker 1: people saying, oh, well, that's a dangerous thing for Peter
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Speaker 1: Dutton to do. But certainly in the inner eastern Teal
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Speaker 1: seats in Melbourne, I think there's quite likely to be
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Speaker 1: a backlash against those Teal members and this climate policy
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Speaker 1: that Peter Dutton's now prosecuting is going to probably play
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Speaker 1: into those into the hands of voters in those seats.
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Speaker 1: What do you make of this, the Teal situation going
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Speaker 1: to order an election coming up?
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Speaker 11: Well, I think it is a gamble. I think it's
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Speaker 11: certainly a gamble because to actually hit office, you'd want
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Speaker 11: to pick up a couple of Teal seats as well
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Speaker 11: as your majority of wins being Labor seats. It's a
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Speaker 11: numbers game. He's got fifty five seats. I mean, you
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Speaker 11: know he'll get fifty six, you'll get monashback, Russell broadband,
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Speaker 11: he might a coalition might not get Calaire back with
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Speaker 11: Andrew g as an independent. Labour's got seventy eight seats,
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Speaker 11: so you know there's every possibility, with the newsport of
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Speaker 11: the way it was Steve, we'll end up with the
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Speaker 11: Parliament with seventy Labor and sixty six to the Coalition.
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Speaker 11: But if you actually want to win office and get
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Speaker 11: in a position where you have seventy two seventy four seats,
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Speaker 11: you need to win a couple of those back from independence.
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Speaker 11: So there's a degree of gamble about it. I don't
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Speaker 11: think there's any doubt about that, but I think Peter
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Speaker 11: Dutton thinks the retail argument wins over with power prices etc.
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Speaker 11: The other danger is in there that he's seen by
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Speaker 11: some as taking Australia backwards, as taking Australia back ten years,
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Speaker 11: and you heard the Prime Minister to make the argument
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Speaker 11: in the press conference and it has some validity. I
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Speaker 11: think that if you bag renewables and Peter Dunton actually
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Speaker 11: said he supports renewables today, just not the target. But
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Speaker 11: if you bag them and he looks like you're coming
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Speaker 11: into office, people will stop investing and that will actually
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Speaker 11: have the perverse outcome of making the energy situation even worse.
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Speaker 11: So that will be Alberanze's argument. Peter Dutton's argument will
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Speaker 11: be on the side of Australians in the cost of
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Speaker 11: leaving and in terms of what.
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Speaker 1: Power bills are.
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Speaker 11: And that's my main priority, and that's a pretty compelling
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Speaker 11: argument for a lot of Australia as well.
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Speaker 1: You have to say, Peter Dutton's not going to die wondering.
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Speaker 1: Andrew Clenello was great to catch up. Thanks for your tomment.
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Speaker 1: Thanks Steve, and we will talk to Chris Jullman later
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Speaker 1: in the program about that Chinese visit. Chris is all
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Speaker 1: over that he'll be with me in the studio. I
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Speaker 1: want to go to something away from politics now, and
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Speaker 1: that's the hype from the government and green greenies about
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Speaker 1: electric vehicles. Well, they seem to be hitting a bit
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Speaker 1: of a roadblock here. I'm talking about electric vehicle roll
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Speaker 1: out now. Much of the focus this year has rightly
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Speaker 1: been on Chris Bowen's disastrous electric vehicle target, which had
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Speaker 1: to be seriously wound back after nearly every sector I
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Speaker 1: think of the automotive industry said, well, it's not going
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Speaker 1: to happen. But then there's also the infrastructure itself. I've
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Speaker 1: talked about this many times before. This is the infrastructure
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Speaker 1: needed to recharge these things, which is now itself in
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Speaker 1: serious doubt of being ready in the time frame the
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Speaker 1: government would like now. Just the other week, the chief
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Speaker 1: executive of Ampole, a bloke by the name of Matt Halliday,
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Speaker 1: revealed that the company's timetable to actually install fast charging
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Speaker 1: stations at Ampole petrol stations has drifted from six months
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Speaker 1: to eighteen months. More on this issue, which is going
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Speaker 1: to dominate headlines over the next couple of years, I'm
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Speaker 1: joined by senior motoring journalist Paul Gave for Paul, great
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Speaker 1: to see you again. I want to talk first about
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Speaker 1: if you're in the market, if you're in the market
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Speaker 1: for an electric vehicle, would you buy one today?
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Speaker 12: Absolutely not, not even I would not even consider it.
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Speaker 12: And I say that as somebody who drives almost all
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Speaker 12: of the ones that are available. And there are a
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Speaker 12: whole lot of reasons, not least the fact that major
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Speaker 12: brands have been slashing prices and resale values through the floor.
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Speaker 1: Talk about Resalevliers. I heard a talk about caller today
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Speaker 1: on Melbourne Radio who said that he's got a six
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Speaker 1: year old Tesla. He wants to either upgrade it or
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Speaker 1: get out of it. He went to a car yard, Paul,
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Speaker 1: and you'd be familiar with these problems. He went to
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Speaker 1: a car yard and the bloke said, look, I'm not
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Speaker 1: going to give you a trade in on that. I'll
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Speaker 1: put it here on consignment and see if anyone wanders
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Speaker 1: in is silly enough to buy it. That must be
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Speaker 1: a common thing that's now happening.
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Speaker 12: Well, I'm good mates with one of the biggest dealer
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Speaker 12: groups in Sydney, the boss of that, and they have
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Speaker 12: a company policy that they don't trade electric cars. I
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Speaker 12: asked him why and he said, the problem is not
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Speaker 12: valuing the car now, it's valuing the car to the
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Speaker 12: third owner because it's going to be the third owner
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Speaker 12: who runs into the area where there's a lot of
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Speaker 12: concern about what is the cost of replacing the batteries
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Speaker 12: and how do the batteries last.
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Speaker 1: So, like all these.
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Speaker 12: Things, what you're buying it for is what you're going
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Speaker 12: to sell it for, and what you're going to sell
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Speaker 12: it for that person is already looking at what they're
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Speaker 12: going to sell it for, and the values are not good.
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Speaker 1: I'll get to the infrastructure in a moment. The whole
20:47
Speaker 1: scene's changing rapidly, and I've heard you a couple of
20:49
Speaker 1: times on radio talking about this. Where you've now got
20:52
Speaker 1: the market is about to be flooded with Chinese electric vehicles. Now,
20:57
Speaker 1: as far as I can work out, they're being sold
20:59
Speaker 1: here cheaper than they're being sold in places like the
21:02
Speaker 1: US and Europe. What are the Chinese up to with
21:04
Speaker 1: this sudden huge numbers of electric vehicles being shipped to Australia.
21:11
Speaker 12: Well, it's not just electric vehicles, it's vehicles generally. China
21:15
Speaker 12: has identified Australia as the South Koreans did and as
21:18
Speaker 12: the Japanese did. It's a very good test market because
21:23
Speaker 12: we're like a mini version of the USA, so lots
21:26
Speaker 12: of people do their test marketing here. The other thing
21:28
Speaker 12: is nobody can get to the bottom of what the
21:31
Speaker 12: actual free FOB costs of one of these Chinese vehicles
21:35
Speaker 12: is at the port. There's all sorts of talk about
21:39
Speaker 12: below the line subsidies on things like energy costs for
21:43
Speaker 12: vehicles that are exported.
21:45
Speaker 1: So we don't know.
21:46
Speaker 2: What the real price is.
21:47
Speaker 12: But when the Chinese brands can start a price fight
21:50
Speaker 12: like they have just recently, and in fact Tesla, because
21:54
Speaker 12: most of the tests are sold here are made in China,
21:58
Speaker 12: what's the real price of these The other problem is
22:01
Speaker 12: if you've just bought a new Tesla and six months
22:05
Speaker 12: later it's they dropped the retail price by seven thousand dollars,
22:09
Speaker 12: you've got to ask yourself.
22:10
Speaker 8: What's going on.
22:11
Speaker 12: But by my count, there'll be five or six extra
22:15
Speaker 12: new Chinese brands on Australian soil selling here before the
22:19
Speaker 12: end of the year. And I've got a long term
22:21
Speaker 12: forecast for a made of mine who's worked for a
22:24
Speaker 12: long time as an import. He said there could be
22:26
Speaker 12: forty or fifty Chinese brands here by the turn of
22:30
Speaker 12: the decade.
22:33
Speaker 1: We're already over represented in the number of the different
22:37
Speaker 1: types of vehicles we can buy. Just concentrate on one
22:39
Speaker 1: of these things. The bydev fifty thousand dollars any.
22:43
Speaker 12: Good, Yep, it's okay, Look.
22:51
Speaker 4: They're.
22:53
Speaker 1: Well.
22:54
Speaker 12: The thing about it is it's a transport model, you know,
22:56
Speaker 12: for people who just want to transport module and looking
22:59
Speaker 12: to do something electric. It's okay, But the fact of
23:02
Speaker 12: the matter is we don't know what the reliability of
23:04
Speaker 12: these things will be like in Australia. We don't know
23:07
Speaker 12: what the quality is going to be like. I can
23:09
Speaker 12: tell you lots and lots of cases. Just one small thing.
23:13
Speaker 12: UV light in Australia is one of the very highest
23:16
Speaker 12: anywhere in the world, even higher than Dubai in the
23:19
Speaker 12: Middle East, and it breaks down the paint. Now, we
23:23
Speaker 12: haven't had these cars here long enough to know if
23:25
Speaker 12: they understand what their paint's got to put up with,
23:29
Speaker 12: what are the interiors got to put up with? And
23:31
Speaker 12: that's without worrying about the potholes that seem to be
23:34
Speaker 12: breeding all across Australia the motent. Every second day I
23:37
Speaker 12: get a note from somebody who's just had a flat
23:40
Speaker 12: tire from a pothole somewhere in the country. We don't
23:43
Speaker 12: know how these cars are going to cope.
23:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if I was going to be buying one, Paul,
23:49
Speaker 1: I'll be buying a European one, Paul gave. Thank you
23:51
Speaker 1: very much for your time. It was a pleasure to
23:53
Speaker 1: catch up with you now coming out after the break.
23:55
Speaker 1: How we're losing our title as the Lucky country, with
23:58
Speaker 1: food insecurity growing amid the cost of living crisis, plus
24:03
Speaker 1: the fall Our continues from Dan Andrews King's birthday honor.
24:06
Speaker 1: More on that coming up. Welcome back to Steve Price
24:12
Speaker 1: in again this week for Peter Kredlin. I was shocked
24:15
Speaker 1: to read what I'm i about to tell you this morning.
24:17
Speaker 1: Households continuing to struggle with the cost of living. We
24:20
Speaker 1: know how bad it is, but the latest hunger report
24:23
Speaker 1: from Food Bank Australia is just shocking. Three point seven
24:27
Speaker 1: million households experiencing food insecurity in the last year. You
24:32
Speaker 1: think about financial insecurity, that's bad enough, but when you
24:35
Speaker 1: can't put food on the table, what sort of country
24:38
Speaker 1: are we living in? More and more working families struggling
24:41
Speaker 1: to put food on the table, relying on food donations.
24:44
Speaker 1: Over fifty percent of Victorian households ex experienced food insecurity
24:50
Speaker 1: had a member doing paid work joining me now to
24:52
Speaker 1: walk through this problem. As the CEO. They do a
24:55
Speaker 1: great job of Food Bank Victoria. David McNamara. David, these
25:00
Speaker 1: statistics are just frightening.
25:03
Speaker 3: I asked Steve, as you said earlier, the lucky country.
25:07
Speaker 3: It's hard to reconcile the number of people that we're
25:10
Speaker 3: seeing turn up for assistance and put lucky next to that,
25:15
Speaker 3: because the people we're helping certainly don't feel lucky anything.
25:21
Speaker 3: But and that's when we look at it. We're sending
25:24
Speaker 3: out sixty five thousand meals a day across Victoria and
25:28
Speaker 3: that's not the full extent. Unfortunately, we're having to limit
25:32
Speaker 3: the food that we have available to our network of
25:34
Speaker 3: over five hundred charities. They're seeing increases of two hundred
25:38
Speaker 3: percent people turning up and we're having to buy for
25:43
Speaker 3: the first time. In the last two years, we've spent
25:46
Speaker 3: over ten million dollars trying to source the food that
25:49
Speaker 3: people need to get it out to them.
25:53
Speaker 1: You've been doing this for a long time, have you
25:55
Speaker 1: ever have you ever seen it as bad? And did
25:58
Speaker 1: you ever imagine in Australia in twenty twenty four that's
26:01
Speaker 1: where we'd be at, with people who are on working
26:04
Speaker 1: salaries who can't afford to feed their kids.
26:07
Speaker 3: Now I did instead of Look, I've been in this
26:09
Speaker 3: sector doing food really for over twenty years. Now, back
26:14
Speaker 3: when I started, it was predominantly you would say people
26:17
Speaker 3: on the street. Now it's people in your street. These
26:21
Speaker 3: are working families, sometimes parents with two jobs or more,
26:26
Speaker 3: trying to not only just keep the house over the
26:29
Speaker 3: roof over their heads, but put healthy food on the
26:32
Speaker 3: table for their kids. And over fifty percent of people
26:37
Speaker 3: now are working. And unfortunately it's not just a irregular occurrence,
26:45
Speaker 3: but we're getting more and more people ringing as saying, look,
26:48
Speaker 3: I used to donate to you, guys, I actually need
26:50
Speaker 3: help now. How can I get food off you?
26:56
Speaker 1: How can food bank continue to get difficult yourselves? I mean,
27:01
Speaker 1: I would urge anyone who's thinking about tossing some money
27:04
Speaker 1: towards a charity that this would be a really good
27:06
Speaker 1: one to start with. But how are you coping?
27:09
Speaker 13: Oh?
27:09
Speaker 3: Look, we're finding it as tough as families are finding Steve.
27:12
Speaker 3: You know, food costs are going up for us, Trying
27:14
Speaker 3: to find food is getting harder and harder. The manufacturers,
27:18
Speaker 3: the farmers, everyone's doing it tough. So you know, we
27:22
Speaker 3: rely on the generosity of community to make sure that
27:24
Speaker 3: we can source that food and get it out. And
27:28
Speaker 3: while families are feeling difficult to put food on their
27:31
Speaker 3: own table, we're now finding it extremely difficult to get
27:35
Speaker 3: food to send it out across here in Victoria, but
27:38
Speaker 3: across Australia. More generally across Australia, it's a quarter of
27:42
Speaker 3: a million meals going out every.
27:43
Speaker 8: Day across Australia.
27:45
Speaker 3: So you know, every dollar donated is two meals created.
27:49
Speaker 3: So if anyone can help, it's Foodbank dot org dot
27:51
Speaker 3: au here in Victoria. That means that we can rescue food,
27:55
Speaker 3: we can purchase food and get it from Mildur to
27:58
Speaker 3: malacouta no charge to the charity.
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Speaker 1: Well, I urge everybody watching to get online and do
28:07
Speaker 1: what they can. I'll certainly be doing that. David McNamara,
28:10
Speaker 1: you're an angel. You do great work. Thank you very
28:12
Speaker 1: much for talking to us. Look at that folks twenty
28:14
Speaker 1: twenty four in Australia and there's families who kind of
28:17
Speaker 1: for to put food on the table for their children.
28:19
Speaker 1: That is just heartbreaking, I must say. Now I mentioned
28:23
Speaker 1: at the top of the program ugly scenes at a
28:24
Speaker 1: pro Palestine rally in Melbourne took place on Sunday. Protests
28:28
Speaker 1: actually clashed with police and there was pepper spray deployed
28:32
Speaker 1: to disperse what was described as an ugly crowd of
28:35
Speaker 1: around two hundred that had broken off from this major
28:38
Speaker 1: group of three thousand. Now it's been reported there were
28:41
Speaker 1: objects thrown at police officers. In a statement, Victoria Police
28:45
Speaker 1: said the group was quote extremely hostile and bottles and
28:48
Speaker 1: signs were thrown at members of the Victorian Police Force.
28:52
Speaker 1: I made the point that many of those members are
28:55
Speaker 1: busting from regional Victoria because the command in Melbourne has
28:59
Speaker 1: run out of troops the police these rallies that have
29:01
Speaker 1: been going now for thirty five weeks straight. However, the
29:04
Speaker 1: Australian Palestine Advocacy Network president Nasa Mashni went on radio
29:10
Speaker 1: contested the necessity of the pepper spray and said he
29:13
Speaker 1: had not seen any objects thrown at officers. Joining me
29:17
Speaker 1: now to discuss as the Victor and Shadow Police Minister
29:21
Speaker 1: Brad Batten. Brad, the police are being asked to handle
29:27
Speaker 1: a very volatile situation. I think they handled themselves admirably
29:33
Speaker 1: on Sunday, and yet they're still being criticized.
29:37
Speaker 8: It's interesting, isn't it, Steve.
29:38
Speaker 10: The police seemed to get the be the target continuously
29:41
Speaker 10: and people want to comment on things that they do
29:44
Speaker 10: without being in those situations. Let me assure you Victorian
29:48
Speaker 10: police members that I've worked with over my time. The
29:51
Speaker 10: ones I speak to in this role don't ever really
29:53
Speaker 10: want to use or deploy OC spray, their batons or
29:58
Speaker 10: their firearms. They want to try control situations as least
30:01
Speaker 10: violently as possible. But when you do get to a
30:04
Speaker 10: position where things do start getting thrown, we've seen in
30:07
Speaker 10: the past where these protests go out of control, members
30:09
Speaker 10: get punched, and then the organizers say, oh, we never
30:12
Speaker 10: saw any violence, Then the cameras will highlight at the
30:15
Speaker 10: violence that was there. My money's with the police at
30:18
Speaker 10: the moment. Are we backing them every step of the way.
30:20
Speaker 10: It's really important right at the moment, we've seen so
30:23
Speaker 10: much hate speech on the streets of Victoria, that we
30:26
Speaker 10: do get back in control of what is happening on
30:28
Speaker 10: Victorian streets and ensure that if people want to have
30:31
Speaker 10: their protest, do it peacefully.
30:33
Speaker 8: If you don't, we've got to give.
30:34
Speaker 10: The police the powers to act, including move on laws,
30:37
Speaker 10: to prevent this happening in the future.
30:40
Speaker 1: So we showed earlier some phone vision taken by someone
30:44
Speaker 1: at that rally, and there's audio which we can't play
30:48
Speaker 1: in full because of its content, of someone shouting at
30:51
Speaker 1: four or five police officers that are walking on the
30:53
Speaker 1: footpath alongside the protest run new effing dogs, Run, New
30:59
Speaker 1: effing rats. Now, as a form of police officer yourself,
31:03
Speaker 1: how do you control your emotion when someone's shouting that
31:06
Speaker 1: at you.
31:09
Speaker 10: It's really tough steve to be in that position because
31:12
Speaker 10: you do want to defend yourself and it's almost a
31:14
Speaker 10: natural instinct to do that. But I'll give credit and
31:17
Speaker 10: particularly to these police officers we're seeing on the screen
31:20
Speaker 10: right now. Can I say to them congratulations. One of
31:23
Speaker 10: the things I think you'll learn in the academy is
31:25
Speaker 10: when people are abusing you, they're abusing the uniform. They're
31:28
Speaker 10: not abusing you as a person. So you've got to
31:30
Speaker 10: learn to put that degree of separation in. So credit
31:34
Speaker 10: to them for controlling it the way they did, because
31:36
Speaker 10: that could have got out of control very quickly if
31:38
Speaker 10: police reacted negatively. They've got a role to play to
31:41
Speaker 10: keep the peace. But at the same time, walking away
31:44
Speaker 10: from something like that is actually.
31:46
Speaker 8: Keeping the peace. It's not been weak, it's not showing
31:49
Speaker 8: a sign of weakness. That's actually a strength the Victoria Police. However,
31:53
Speaker 8: we have to get back in control of this. We
31:55
Speaker 8: can't continue to see positions where police can be insulted, abused,
32:00
Speaker 8: have things thrown at them or assaulted on our streets.
32:03
Speaker 8: We need to get the move on powers back that
32:05
Speaker 8: the Labor government got rid of. It is our priority.
32:08
Speaker 10: So they have those move on laws to get people
32:11
Speaker 10: away from these protests and you protects those people going
32:14
Speaker 10: about their normal legal day in a peaceful way.
32:17
Speaker 8: We can't have this hate speech on the street in Victoria.
32:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, we need some political leadership. Look, I got bashed
32:24
Speaker 1: up on x formerly known as Twitter today, which I'm
32:27
Speaker 1: used to because of something I said last night about
32:30
Speaker 1: the Dan Andrews Australia Award, the King's Birthday Award. Look,
32:36
Speaker 1: I was absolutely shocked that Andrews was awarded the Companion
32:39
Speaker 1: of the Order of Australia. I think it was a mistake.
32:42
Speaker 1: I think it would be better if he hadn't accepted it.
32:45
Speaker 1: Former Premier Jeff Kennet's written to the Governor General David
32:48
Speaker 1: Hurley saying you need to reconsider this. But we had
32:52
Speaker 1: former Labour Senator Stephen Conroy even slammed the critics of
32:56
Speaker 1: Dan last night here on Sky. I haven't listened to
33:00
Speaker 1: our old made Stephen Conroy.
33:02
Speaker 6: The Sydney media bubble. Frankly are moron's you know nothing
33:05
Speaker 6: about Melbourne. Get back in your box. No one cares
33:07
Speaker 6: about your views out there in broader Australia. This sort
33:10
Speaker 6: of pathetic, pathetic attack on the Awards secretariat is just
33:16
Speaker 6: mind blowing. Jeff, that was just a pathetic, dummy spit.
33:22
Speaker 13: Now.
33:22
Speaker 1: I'm not sure Stephen knows what he's talking about. It's
33:24
Speaker 1: not confined to the Sydney media bubble. What did you
33:27
Speaker 1: What was your first thought when you realized that Dan
33:30
Speaker 1: Andrews is going to be handed not just King's Birthday honor,
33:34
Speaker 1: but the highest honor equivalent to a knighthood.
33:38
Speaker 8: Yeah, look, Steve, I suppose it opens up.
33:39
Speaker 10: I could go down the easy path of talking about
33:41
Speaker 10: his financial management, the issues with COVID that happened obviously,
33:45
Speaker 10: had the deaths in Victoria, and people would be rightfully frustrated,
33:49
Speaker 10: particularly those families, if not angry that he was getting
33:52
Speaker 10: that award. But a couple of things have come up
33:54
Speaker 10: on this. Number one, how did Daniel Andrews get it
33:56
Speaker 10: in eight months when every other premier or former member
33:59
Speaker 10: of Parliament who does get these awards has to wait
34:01
Speaker 10: such a long period of time.
34:02
Speaker 8: Because they generally take about two years to proceed.
34:05
Speaker 10: But the one that really frustrates me, and I'll go
34:07
Speaker 10: back to my days into the police force. If you
34:09
Speaker 10: want to get promoted and you're currently under investigation for
34:12
Speaker 10: anything within the Victoria Police Force, your promotion gets put
34:15
Speaker 10: on hold until the investigation is finalized. Why isn't Daniel
34:19
Speaker 10: Andrews's awards been put on hold until the iback investigation
34:23
Speaker 10: comes out into what happened with the UFU. Why does
34:25
Speaker 10: he get a special privilege to move through to get
34:27
Speaker 10: a top award that should be rebuked if in the
34:30
Speaker 10: case that the you iback result comes back that he
34:34
Speaker 10: interfered in any way or in any corrupt behavior. These
34:37
Speaker 10: are the sort of things I think put risk to
34:39
Speaker 10: these reward awards in the future, and it makes people
34:42
Speaker 10: have a negative feeling of them. So I think, yes,
34:45
Speaker 10: he should say no, I shouldn't take it at the moment.
34:47
Speaker 10: I should put myself in a position that I'm above all.
34:49
Speaker 10: Once the iback reports have all come out, there's plenty
34:52
Speaker 10: of investigating him. If he's found innocent all of those,
34:55
Speaker 10: then he should renominate or have someone renominate him then,
34:58
Speaker 10: but definitely not now why he's under investigation.
35:01
Speaker 1: You make a great point, ken it waited I think
35:03
Speaker 1: three or four years. Most other premiers have waited that
35:06
Speaker 1: length of time as well. And you know the award
35:09
Speaker 1: was given for in part for his planning and infrastructure projects. Well,
35:16
Speaker 1: they're all over budget and over time. How could you
35:19
Speaker 1: give someone a medal for creating something like the suburban
35:23
Speaker 1: rail loop, for God's.
35:24
Speaker 10: Sake, If you're awarding incompetence for financial incompetence, I think
35:28
Speaker 10: he thoroughly deserves the top on it. But right at
35:30
Speaker 10: the moment, we're seeing You've spoken just before me you
35:33
Speaker 10: had food bank on here. People at the moment are
35:35
Speaker 10: struggling to put food on the table. People across Victoria
35:38
Speaker 10: are struggling to pay energy bills as they continue to rise,
35:41
Speaker 10: interest rates have increased. Governments have a responsibility to control
35:45
Speaker 10: the budget and inflation. We know from evidence we've seen
35:48
Speaker 10: from reports that the big build projects here, because they
35:51
Speaker 10: had such huge cost blowouts, has impacted inflation across the
35:55
Speaker 10: whole country. That's impacting the cost of living for every
35:58
Speaker 10: person in our state. Why would you reward someone for
36:01
Speaker 10: doing that? And again, as I said, I'll go back
36:03
Speaker 10: to where I started. He's under investigation for iback. He's
36:06
Speaker 10: had only had to wait eight months, where everyone has
36:08
Speaker 10: to wait three plus years for this award. And I
36:11
Speaker 10: do believe people like Jeff Kennett who got an award,
36:14
Speaker 10: it's more so for his working beyond blue, not just
36:16
Speaker 10: his work as the Premier of Victoria.
36:18
Speaker 8: It's what you do outside of work.
36:19
Speaker 10: If anyone can tell me what Daniel Andrews has done
36:21
Speaker 10: outside of parliament other than be a member of staff
36:25
Speaker 10: for a Labor member of parliament, all going in as
36:27
Speaker 10: an advisor for a Labor member of Parliament, I'm struggling
36:30
Speaker 10: to find why he should be rewarded for it outside
36:32
Speaker 10: of his role as the Premier of Victoria.
36:34
Speaker 8: And I think it's really important to show his character.
36:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, said Brad Batton. All was a pleasure to
36:40
Speaker 1: catch up with you. Thank you very much for that.
36:42
Speaker 1: And Brad makes a really good point. And I just wonder,
36:44
Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't gone through all of the recipients
36:47
Speaker 1: from the King's Birthday honors. How many nurses who work
36:51
Speaker 1: during COVID in the hospitals across Victoria, how many of
36:54
Speaker 1: them got a King's Birthday honor?
36:56
Speaker 2: Not many?
36:56
Speaker 1: I wouldn't thought or the surgeons, or the doctors, or
36:59
Speaker 1: the mental health experts or the teachers, you know, and
37:02
Speaker 1: we're still dealing with mental issues for young children who
37:06
Speaker 1: weren't allowed to go to school for two years. I mean,
37:09
Speaker 1: it really is a very sick joke, I've got to say.
37:12
Speaker 1: After the break, Chris Yulman will join me for what
37:15
Speaker 1: he'd like to see the pmras with the Chinese Premier
37:18
Speaker 1: during his visit, which happens this weekend. Plus I'll get
37:21
Speaker 1: his take on the climate obsession and where that is
37:24
Speaker 1: leading all of us. Welcome back to Steve Price again
37:31
Speaker 1: in for Peter Krela. Now it's probably been the worst
37:33
Speaker 1: kept secret in Canberra. Finally, this afternoon the Prime Minister
37:36
Speaker 1: announced that the Chinese Premier Li Kwang is set to
37:40
Speaker 1: visit here Saturday, so at the end of the week.
37:42
Speaker 1: So the question now will be will Anthony Albanezi address
37:46
Speaker 1: the elephant in the room, which of course is China's
37:48
Speaker 1: growing hostility in our region, or will this just be
37:51
Speaker 1: another photo opportunity. Now, someone who is heavily engaged in
37:55
Speaker 1: watching what China's up to his Sky News contributor Chris Human,
37:59
Speaker 1: and I'm pleased to say he's in the studio. Why
38:01
Speaker 1: did he keep it secret for so long?
38:03
Speaker 9: Well, he's guessing himself. He's so worried now that he
38:06
Speaker 9: might offend the Chinese that he can't even say that
38:08
Speaker 9: the Chinese premier is coming on Saturday. He refused to
38:12
Speaker 9: answer the question on a day when the Chinese delegation
38:14
Speaker 9: was wandering through Parliament with some of his staff measuring
38:18
Speaker 9: the curtains, checking out whether or not where the Chinese flag. Yeah,
38:21
Speaker 9: where the Chinese flags would go. So it is preposterous
38:25
Speaker 9: that he didn't speak about it before now because of
38:27
Speaker 9: course he's waiting to see whether or not the Chinese
38:31
Speaker 9: are going to put out a statement, would do one
38:32
Speaker 9: at the same time, But this is a guest in
38:34
Speaker 9: our country. The primister thinks that he's managing this relationship
38:37
Speaker 9: with China. I think that China's managing him.
38:40
Speaker 1: Would they deliberately of they being negotiation between the Australian
38:46
Speaker 1: Foreign affairs in the Chinese a non sitting week, Oh, look,
38:49
Speaker 1: to avoid that idea that he might be invited to
38:52
Speaker 1: address the parliament.
38:53
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's a very rare thing and it would normally
38:55
Speaker 9: be the president, not the Premier. So the president obviously
38:57
Speaker 9: did that back in twenty fourteen, and it shows how
39:00
Speaker 9: far the relationships come in terms of how far it
39:02
Speaker 9: has sunk since then in that there's no invitation.
39:05
Speaker 1: It was under Tony Abboit wasn't it.
39:06
Speaker 9: It wasn't Tony Abbott. I remember coming out of that
39:08
Speaker 9: being buoyed by the idea that the Chinese premier talked about.
39:11
Speaker 9: The President had talked about the possibility of becoming a democracy,
39:14
Speaker 9: something he routinely says and doesn't mean.
39:17
Speaker 1: Well, that would have been quite a feather in Tony
39:19
Speaker 1: Abbot's cap.
39:20
Speaker 9: It was, and at the time does she had Under
39:22
Speaker 9: Andrew Rot that was when we signed the agreements with China,
39:25
Speaker 9: the free trade deals that we have with China, and
39:27
Speaker 9: it was all upside then until China revealed itself. It
39:30
Speaker 9: was hiding its strength and biding its time. But then
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Speaker 9: we've got to see the real China, and that's now
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Speaker 9: a very aggressive presence in our part of the world.
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Speaker 1: You and I know Albert reasonably well, you better than me.
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Speaker 1: Is he going to front up to the premiere and
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Speaker 1: ask him the tough questions Taiwan human rights in China
39:51
Speaker 1: and the Australian guy who's still in prison.
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Speaker 9: In the yang anjel On. He has to ask on
39:55
Speaker 9: that one. So there's an Australian citizen who's on death
39:58
Speaker 9: row and this is really a kind of hostage to
39:59
Speaker 9: plum that we have going there, so he has to
40:02
Speaker 9: raise that question. I'd be asking other questions though, I'd
40:04
Speaker 9: be saying, why are you prepositioning virtual bombs on our
40:08
Speaker 9: critical infrastructure, which is something China has actually done. You
40:11
Speaker 9: think about that, if you've planned a bomb on the
40:14
Speaker 9: City Harbor Bridge, that would be.
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Speaker 1: Seen as to explain that to them.
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Speaker 9: So what they've done is it's under this program that
40:20
Speaker 9: China runs called volt Tayphoon. They've done it in the
40:22
Speaker 9: United States and they've done it here. They put malware
40:25
Speaker 9: into our critical infrastructure, which means if push does come
40:28
Speaker 9: to shove, the first we'll know about in Australia is
40:30
Speaker 9: that lights will go out and some gas pipelines might
40:32
Speaker 9: blow up. That's the level of intrusion that we've seen
40:36
Speaker 9: inside our borders by China. Now, that to me would
40:39
Speaker 9: be one of the things that we've near the top
40:41
Speaker 9: of the list.
40:42
Speaker 1: What about trade, I mean, the Prime Minister today went
40:45
Speaker 1: on about lobsters and cray fishermen, and I don't think
40:48
Speaker 1: that's the most important issue. But if you're a I
40:50
Speaker 1: guess if you're a cray fisherman, you'd want your product
40:53
Speaker 1: to go back into the Chinese market. Maybe that's one
40:55
Speaker 1: of the reasons why the spoke's going to Perth.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, but he's returning all the things that they took away.
41:00
Speaker 9: So it's like someone comes and robs you, robs your
41:01
Speaker 9: house and then starts giving your watch back and then
41:03
Speaker 9: you purse back and you get really really grateful for it.
41:05
Speaker 9: Don't forget that China used economic coersion against Australia. Why
41:10
Speaker 9: because at a time when a disease came out of
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Speaker 9: China which threatened our population and we didn't know how
41:15
Speaker 9: bad it was going to be, we spent a trillion
41:17
Speaker 9: dollar half a trillion dollars trying to look after the population.
41:20
Speaker 9: If you're not going to speak up and say we'd
41:22
Speaker 9: really like to know where this disease came from, because
41:25
Speaker 9: that might help us a bit. If you're not speaking up,
41:27
Speaker 9: then when do you speak up? And for that we
41:30
Speaker 9: were punished, we were put in the freezer, and there
41:32
Speaker 9: was economic coercion. So the fact that they've wound it
41:34
Speaker 9: back a little since then, that's a good thing we
41:36
Speaker 9: should trade with China. I think that's a great thing.
41:38
Speaker 8: Should we trust China.
41:39
Speaker 1: No, we talked about at the start of the program
41:42
Speaker 1: and the climate wars. I mean, you've been how many
41:45
Speaker 1: wars on climate and any reported on it from we
41:47
Speaker 1: started back in two thousand and seven? Almost you can't forever.
41:51
Speaker 1: So Peter Dutton crazy brave? Or is he right to
41:54
Speaker 1: call into question whether we can get to the twenty
41:56
Speaker 1: thirty targets and to continue to prosecute this argument about Yeah.
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Speaker 9: Look, I think that it is a big call on
42:02
Speaker 9: his behalf because he's got to try and win back
42:04
Speaker 9: those till seats and we know the electric's very, very divided,
42:07
Speaker 9: so there. I think that's going to make the concerns
42:10
Speaker 9: that his members have about wedding those sits back very difficult. Indeed,
42:13
Speaker 9: I think he's probably picking the market the moment that
42:16
Speaker 9: people are concerned about costs of living and what we
42:18
Speaker 9: will see in this transition, no matter what we do
42:20
Speaker 9: from here on in, it will be remarkably expensive. And
42:24
Speaker 9: don't believe this line that if you put more renewable
42:27
Speaker 9: energy on the grid. It makes it cheaper, it can
42:29
Speaker 9: reduce the wholesale price for a certain period of time.
42:32
Speaker 9: But the void it leaves and the transmission lines you
42:34
Speaker 9: need to build that we're so far behind. Yeah, well,
42:38
Speaker 9: eighty two percent. We're at forty percent wind and solar
42:41
Speaker 9: on the grid at the moment.
42:41
Speaker 8: We've got to get to.
42:42
Speaker 9: Eighty two percent in the next six years. That simply
42:46
Speaker 9: will not happen.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Anthony Alberezi doesn't accept that whenever you talk to him. Chris,
42:50
Speaker 1: great to see you. Thanks coming to the studio, Chris Hielman.
42:53
Speaker 1: It was great to catch up with him. After the break,
42:55
Speaker 1: we will be joined by the panel and we will
42:57
Speaker 1: talk a lot about Donald Trump and where he's at
43:00
Speaker 1: with the current election. Plus what about Joe Biden's son Hunter,
43:05
Speaker 1: Is he going to go to jail?
43:10
Speaker 8: Welcome back.
43:11
Speaker 1: So let's bring in our international panel, sky one News
43:13
Speaker 1: contributor Kosher Gada and former Labor MP Michael Danby. Kosher, Michael, Welcome.
43:19
Speaker 1: Let's start if we can with Donald Trump. Now he's
43:22
Speaker 1: held his first major rally since he was found guilty
43:26
Speaker 1: in the hush money trial. The guilty verdict doesn't appear
43:30
Speaker 1: driven away any supporters, thousands of them there. I think
43:33
Speaker 1: it was somewhere in Las Vegas, Nevada, and it was
43:37
Speaker 1: forty degrees now here. He is referencing supportive comments from
43:42
Speaker 1: Hungarian Prime Minister Victor Auburn.
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Speaker 14: Have a look, he said, the only thing that's going
43:48
Speaker 14: to save the world is Donald Trump has to get
43:52
Speaker 14: re elected as.
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Speaker 2: President, and the whole world is.
43:55
Speaker 14: Going to be saved because China respected him, Rissa respected him,
44:00
Speaker 14: Everybody listened to him.
44:01
Speaker 2: He was the guy.
44:02
Speaker 14: He actually said, he was the boss. Everybody listened, and
44:06
Speaker 14: I'll tell you, if it doesn't happen, you headed to
44:08
Speaker 14: World War three.
44:12
Speaker 1: He actually invoked World War three in that speech.
44:15
Speaker 13: Look, he is leveraging words that an elected foreign leader,
44:19
Speaker 13: Victor Raabond said, So that carries a certain degree of weight,
44:22
Speaker 13: and then Trump is going to weave that into his
44:23
Speaker 13: comments and his rallies. He does it very well. I
44:25
Speaker 13: think his teleprompter broke in that rally reportedly, and he
44:28
Speaker 13: was able to.
44:29
Speaker 1: Just add limb for an hour, did tele brump.
44:31
Speaker 13: And go, and we even bob you know through that.
44:33
Speaker 13: I would say many people, certainly in his support base
44:36
Speaker 13: agree with those sentiments. He famously is known as the
44:39
Speaker 13: only US president last forty years. It didn't start a
44:41
Speaker 13: new war or a new military intervention under his watch,
44:43
Speaker 13: so I think he was just playing to that.
44:45
Speaker 1: So he says these world leaders respect him, Michael, is
44:49
Speaker 1: he convincing himself of that or is it a reality?
44:54
Speaker 15: He might be convincing himself of that. And I didn't
44:56
Speaker 15: know that many Hungarians in Las Vegas, but there were
45:00
Speaker 15: during the Second World War, but not now. But the
45:04
Speaker 15: one thing to be fair to him is that Germany
45:09
Speaker 15: leading Europe including France, now contributing more than two percent
45:13
Speaker 15: of their GDP to defense and they are really up
45:16
Speaker 15: arming the Ukrainians to fight Russia. And that's important for
45:20
Speaker 15: us here in Australia because the Chinese, including the bloke
45:23
Speaker 15: who's visiting on the weekend, are watching like eagles whether
45:27
Speaker 15: the Americans and the rest of US stand up to Russia.
45:30
Speaker 1: Well, we've seen alerts to the right in Europe across
45:32
Speaker 1: the weekend with those elections. You've got President Macron now
45:35
Speaker 1: calling a snap election, warning of the rise of the
45:39
Speaker 1: far right after that swing against his own party in
45:42
Speaker 1: the European parliamentary elections. Now it comes up to Macron's
45:46
Speaker 1: Renaissance Party, I think at one fifteen percent of the
45:49
Speaker 1: French voat compared to the right wing National Rally which
45:52
Speaker 1: one thirty two coch What do you make of this?
45:55
Speaker 1: Is it alert or it's certainly a leaning to the
45:59
Speaker 1: more center right or right right parties.
46:03
Speaker 13: It is that movement definitely seems to be ascendant in
46:06
Speaker 13: Europe and really around the world. If you go back
46:08
Speaker 13: to Trump, if you look at Brexit, and you look
46:10
Speaker 13: at all of these elections across up and down Europe,
46:13
Speaker 13: each time they seem to be gaining ground a little bit.
46:16
Speaker 2: With that.
46:16
Speaker 13: We know the reasons, the economy, immigration, all of those things.
46:21
Speaker 13: People are looking for another party or another venue to
46:24
Speaker 13: address their grievances, and you see that come through with
46:26
Speaker 13: these elections. Now, one point on the other side is
46:30
Speaker 13: that often it's a protest vote, voting for the European
46:33
Speaker 13: Union May. Now you can just copypiest those results onto
46:35
Speaker 13: what will happen in their domestic elections. Hence why maybe
46:37
Speaker 13: he called a snap election because he doesn't necessarily believe
46:40
Speaker 13: that's going to translate to me and Steve.
46:42
Speaker 15: We went through this agonizing debate on asylum seekers and
46:45
Speaker 15: refugees here and because both parties adopted a policy of
46:49
Speaker 15: you know, we decide who are the immigrants that come
46:52
Speaker 15: to this country.
46:53
Speaker 1: With the fame not an issue.
46:54
Speaker 15: Everych Australian support migration if we decide who comes, Yes,
46:58
Speaker 15: But in Germany, France, the UK, the UK, they're going
47:01
Speaker 15: to punish the Tories because over fourteen years I've done
47:04
Speaker 15: nothing about a million illegally.
47:06
Speaker 1: Having migration is the big issue. The big issue cost
47:09
Speaker 1: of living and migration. I mean cost of living also
47:11
Speaker 1: is an issue for them in Europe. I mean, they're
47:15
Speaker 1: doing it just as tough as what we are. But
47:18
Speaker 1: when you see your streets full of migrants, I guess
47:21
Speaker 1: that's who you take it out on. I mean, it
47:24
Speaker 1: was a big swing against Macron, though he's not popular.
47:27
Speaker 1: I was amazed that he would call an election three
47:29
Speaker 1: weeks before the Olympic flame gets lipped for the Olympic Games.
47:33
Speaker 15: It's kind of strange all of these far right parties,
47:36
Speaker 15: including in Germany, are being funded by Russia. Though I'd
47:39
Speaker 15: like someone to publish the swing to them and the
47:42
Speaker 15: amount of money they got from Russia on a table
47:44
Speaker 15: next to each other.
47:45
Speaker 1: So Koch of this result, what does it mean for
47:49
Speaker 1: Europe and the European Parliament. I mean, let's put the
47:52
Speaker 1: other elections to one side. If you know, we've got
47:56
Speaker 1: a very different European Union makeup now, haven't we.
47:58
Speaker 13: Yeah, So Georgia Malone came out with the strongest I
48:02
Speaker 13: think her party now constitutes thirty percent of the strongest
48:05
Speaker 13: faction within the EU, and she obviously is of that right,
48:09
Speaker 13: further to the right of center than many say that.
48:11
Speaker 13: She actually modulated her position and came back to a
48:14
Speaker 13: little bit more moderate center right since then. So that's
48:16
Speaker 13: just another reflection. I think it's a four four x
48:19
Speaker 13: four times increase compared to where the EU came out
48:22
Speaker 13: in the twenty nineteen elections, and that absolutely is going
48:24
Speaker 13: to come to bear as it relates to all these issues.
48:27
Speaker 15: And you wouldn't put her in the same bag though
48:28
Speaker 15: as Missus l Pain.
48:30
Speaker 13: No, because she moderated and actually a lot of people
48:33
Speaker 13: on the domestic side who are stronger and more hawkish
48:36
Speaker 13: on immigration are actually quite disappointed with Maloney because she
48:39
Speaker 13: moderated her position after she came in. But together the
48:42
Speaker 13: two of them are certainly ascendant compared to their predecessors.
48:45
Speaker 1: So Marco, you've got to to Bet Israel Anthony Blinkoln's back.
48:48
Speaker 1: This discussed a cease fire deal with Benjamin net Nahu.
48:52
Speaker 1: That proposal would see Hamas release all of the remaining hostages,
48:56
Speaker 1: Israel withdraw its troops from Gaza, or hope of that happened.
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Speaker 15: Blincoln and Sullivan are saying every day that Hamas is
49:03
Speaker 15: the roadblock, not just as we heard on the ABC
49:06
Speaker 15: that he's going there to strong arm Netta Yahual So
49:10
Speaker 15: that would be a good result if we get that
49:12
Speaker 15: agreement through, because they got four of the hostages out.
49:17
Speaker 15: All of the naysayers are complaining about that, as Sky
49:20
Speaker 15: News has been pointing out. But the way to get
49:24
Speaker 15: to a cease far into peace and to get the
49:26
Speaker 15: hostages out is via this arrangement. But unless unless Qatar
49:31
Speaker 15: Steve kicks them out of the six star, four seasons
49:34
Speaker 15: hotel in Doha, I don't think Hamas is going to
49:40
Speaker 15: learn the lesson Kosher.
49:41
Speaker 1: Any chance of this is getting up.
49:43
Speaker 13: I think just with the Security Council Wood and with
49:45
Speaker 13: the US has done, it's moving in that direction. I
49:48
Speaker 13: think Michael brings up a good point about Qatara, though
49:50
Speaker 13: there's a reason for that. There's a lot of Katari
49:52
Speaker 13: money running up and down Washington, DC. That's coloring this
49:54
Speaker 13: behind the scenes.
49:55
Speaker 1: Well, we can only go. When we saw those hostages
49:58
Speaker 1: released this week, it was just such great news. Thank
50:00
Speaker 1: you both for coming in. It was a pleasure to
50:02
Speaker 1: see you. Thank you very much, Kocher and Michael coming
50:05
Speaker 1: up straight after us your thanks for your coming you tonight.
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Speaker 1: By the way, The Bolt Reports up next for James McPherson.
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Speaker 1: I'll be back tomorrow night at six