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- 0:15Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety three to three KJR FM Chuck and
- 0:18Speaker 1: Buck in the morning with no Chuck, no Buck today.
- 0:20Speaker 1: Bucky still out on medical lead check out, taking a
- 0:23Speaker 1: couple of days off. Also celebrating his fifty fifth birthday.
- 0:26Speaker 1: Happy birthday to Chuck if he's listening. Also, if you're listening,
- 0:29Speaker 1: you should still be sleeping all right. Time for our
- 0:32Speaker 1: frost Brewed Corps light headlines, Choose Chill. The Mariners fell
- 0:36Speaker 1: to the Mets in yesterday's series finale, snapping their eight
- 0:39Speaker 1: game win streak. Seven to one loss for Seattle that
- 0:41Speaker 1: was behind just four innings of work from George Kirby.
- 0:44Speaker 1: He gave up nine hits five runs, only struck out five.
- 0:47Speaker 1: Mariners offense only managed six hits compared to fourteen for
- 0:51Speaker 1: the Mets. Four of those came from Bobashett and I
- 0:53Speaker 1: hate that name. It's an off day for the Mariners
- 0:56Speaker 1: today as they head out on a pretty long road trip.
- 0:58Speaker 1: First up, they are in ch Troit tomorrow at three
- 1:01Speaker 1: forty with Brian Wu on the mound versus Framber Valdez.
- 1:05Speaker 1: The nixt took Game one in the NBA Finals last
- 1:07Speaker 1: night in sacrament Or.
- 1:08Speaker 2: Sacramento. I wrote San Antonio.
- 1:11Speaker 1: It was a one oh five ninety five win for
- 1:12Speaker 1: New York behind a double double from Carl Anthony Towns.
- 1:15Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson scored thirty.
- 1:17Speaker 1: Although if you listened to anyone on the radio this morning,
- 1:19Speaker 1: you would have thought Jalen Brunson had the worst game
- 1:22Speaker 1: of his entire life.
- 1:23Speaker 3: Was that right? Yeah?
- 1:24Speaker 1: They were like, oh, just a terrible game for Brunson.
- 1:27Speaker 1: He made up for it.
- 1:28Speaker 2: In the end.
- 1:28Speaker 1: But I'm like, I mean, yeah, it wasn't his best game,
- 1:31Speaker 1: but it came does that.
- 1:33Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a fourth quarter player.
- 1:34Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. I don't know.
- 1:35Speaker 1: It was funny Wenby put up twenty six in the
- 1:38Speaker 1: losing effort for the Spurs. Those two teams meet again
- 1:41Speaker 1: tomorrow night.
- 1:42Speaker 2: In Game two.
- 1:43Speaker 1: The Storm fell two three and eight after a seventy
- 1:46Speaker 1: two sixty eight lost to the Mercury last night. Dick,
- 1:48Speaker 1: you were there, You know something about that there? Next up,
- 1:51Speaker 1: they had to Minnesota to face the Links on Saturday.
- 1:54Speaker 1: You don't have to go to Minnesota, right, No? No, okay,
- 1:57Speaker 1: all right, all right, just making sure the NHL is
- 2:00Speaker 1: shaking things up. I'm not sure if you guys heard
- 2:01Speaker 1: about this All Star weekend going to be a little
- 2:04Speaker 1: different next year. The twenty twenty seven mid Season Classic
- 2:07Speaker 1: will feature teams representing Canada, Finland, Sweden, the US, and
- 2:11Speaker 1: then a World team made up of international players outside
- 2:15Speaker 1: of those four teams. This, of course, follows the success
- 2:18Speaker 1: of the Four Nations face Off and then the Winter Olympics.
- 2:20Speaker 1: Each team is going to have nine skaters and two
- 2:23Speaker 1: goalies that will compete in a three on three round
- 2:26Speaker 1: robin exhibition tournament. Winning team gets a two million dollar prize.
- 2:31Speaker 1: I like that the NHL keeps trying to evolve their
- 2:34Speaker 1: All Star break with the four Nations. Obviously the Olympics
- 2:39Speaker 1: wasn't the NHL's choice, but I like that they're doing
- 2:41Speaker 1: something different each time, and now that they're going to
- 2:43Speaker 1: have a true All Star game, they're going to make
- 2:47Speaker 1: it more interesting because I think everybody, especially you can't
- 2:50Speaker 1: go from four Nations to the Olympics to.
- 2:53Speaker 2: Skills Challenge exactly.
- 2:55Speaker 1: It just doesn't have the same effects, doesn't have the
- 2:58Speaker 1: same effect, although they will still have the skills competition,
- 3:01Speaker 1: but that's going to focus on the next generation of stars,
- 3:03Speaker 1: with ten players twenty five or younger competing across eight events,
- 3:06Speaker 1: so they're making everything a little different for the next
- 3:09Speaker 1: All Star Game, and the Stanley Cut playoffs continue tonight,
- 3:13Speaker 1: Game two in Carolina at five Eastern as the Hurricanes
- 3:17Speaker 1: try to even that series with the Vegas Real quick
- 3:19Speaker 1: you mention there, yeah, because I hate that he just
- 3:22Speaker 1: torments us.
- 3:23Speaker 4: Well, the dude makes forty two million dollars a year.
- 3:26Speaker 5: His combined war for the last three seasons is only
- 3:30Speaker 5: two point four well combined, and he makes forty two
- 3:34Speaker 5: million dollars a year.
- 3:35Speaker 1: And that's just because he helped them win games against
- 3:38Speaker 1: the Mariners.
- 3:39Speaker 2: That's it.
- 3:40Speaker 4: We're just not a very good player.
- 3:42Speaker 2: No, he's not. But for some reason, I don't know.
- 3:45Speaker 1: Maybe it's just because bobashet of old drove me so
- 3:47Speaker 1: crazy and now I can't get him out of my mind.
- 3:49Speaker 2: And yeah, gosh, I'm sick of that guy. Sick of
- 3:53Speaker 2: that guy.
- 3:53Speaker 4: Typical Mets signing there.
- 3:55Speaker 2: It is?
- 3:56Speaker 4: What are you doing?
- 3:56Speaker 1: You know who I'm not sick of though, I'm not
- 3:58Speaker 1: sick of Greg Bell. We should chat with him.
- 4:00Speaker 2: Let's do it, Greg.
- 4:03Speaker 6: Good morning.
- 4:03Speaker 3: I'm glad you're not sick of me.
- 4:05Speaker 6: Thank you.
- 4:05Speaker 2: Yeah, you're welcome.
- 4:06Speaker 6: A little bar.
- 4:08Speaker 2: Well, it's just Bobashett right now, that's it.
- 4:11Speaker 6: So you're saying I'm ABOVETT.
- 4:14Speaker 3: I appreciate that.
- 4:15Speaker 1: Yeah, until tomorrow, and then I'm also sick of Framber
- 4:18Speaker 1: Valdez and that's who we're facing tomorrow.
- 4:20Speaker 2: So talk to me on Saturday. I'll add more people to.
- 4:22Speaker 4: Greg's war is way higher than both.
- 4:24Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like a ten.
- 4:25Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, your wars out of control right now, out.
- 4:31Speaker 3: My wife what war is, and then we'll see if.
- 4:35Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be, You're gonna be have a
- 4:37Speaker 1: lower war in your own household.
- 4:38Speaker 2: That's always gonna be. That's always the case. All right.
- 4:43Speaker 1: Well, Greg, you were out at OTAs yesterday and of course,
- 4:47Speaker 1: big news coming out of Renton. I almost said vMac,
- 4:51Speaker 1: which we're not supposed to say. Big news coming out
- 4:53Speaker 1: of Renton was that the Seahawks signed Derek Hall to
- 4:56Speaker 1: an extension. He met with with the media afterwards, and
- 4:59Speaker 1: I thought it was in I saw you post that.
- 5:01Speaker 1: He said, you know, yeah, I know I could have
- 5:03Speaker 1: taken more money, I could have waited for free agency,
- 5:06Speaker 1: but I chose to stay here. So what is it
- 5:08Speaker 1: about this team that is so special? And do you
- 5:10Speaker 1: think it just takes a special kind of player to
- 5:12Speaker 1: make the decision that Haul did and not just go
- 5:14Speaker 1: for the money.
- 5:16Speaker 3: It does, and it also takes a culture, the culture
- 5:19Speaker 3: that Mike McDonald has made in two years. This is
- 5:24Speaker 3: the price you tag. You can put on culture to
- 5:27Speaker 3: keep players here. To have Derek Hall say, well, yeah,
- 5:32Speaker 3: I know what the market is. I know, boy, Mafe
- 5:34Speaker 3: made six million more a year than the Seahawks are
- 5:36Speaker 3: offering me. I can wait till free agency and go
- 5:39Speaker 3: find my market. I'm two years younger than Mafey. I've
- 5:43Speaker 3: played better than Mafay. I can run, hold the run
- 5:45Speaker 3: and set an edge better. He fits McDonald's defense better,
- 5:49Speaker 3: which is why the Seahawks chose him and not Mafe,
- 5:52Speaker 3: because of his run stopping primarily and top of pressure
- 5:55Speaker 3: in quarterbacks. But he said, you know what, culture to
- 5:58Speaker 3: me is more important than money. He actually said that
- 6:01Speaker 3: when I had talked to him, why why didn't you wait?
- 6:03Speaker 3: I just thought, so, why didn't you wait till you
- 6:04Speaker 3: know what the market was? You saw what Mafay got,
- 6:07Speaker 3: why didn't you wait? And I knew he's gonna say
- 6:09Speaker 3: what he said, And he said that he loves coming
- 6:12Speaker 3: to work guys, rasing him and yesterday. I mean the
- 6:17Speaker 3: second he stepped on the practice field, Julian Love and
- 6:20Speaker 3: Devin Witherspoon were all over him, and they stayed on
- 6:23Speaker 3: him the whole time. The practice ended, and Weatherspoon was
- 6:26Speaker 3: still ripping him for this and rasing him for that.
- 6:29Speaker 3: And it was the roast Derek call day because he
- 6:32Speaker 3: got a new deal. Love says that no one on
- 6:36Speaker 3: the team talks more crap except he didn't say crap,
- 6:39Speaker 3: and no one gets on the team gets more crap
- 6:42Speaker 3: except he didn't say crap. Talked at him. Then Derek Hall,
- 6:46Speaker 3: he said, Derek Hall is actually louder than is Devin Witherspoon,
- 6:49Speaker 3: which is saying something. They love him. They love calls
- 6:54Speaker 3: him the most violent player on the team, and that's
- 6:57Speaker 3: the name of the game.
- 6:58Speaker 6: Blow up on defense, to blow up the guy.
- 7:00Speaker 3: In front of you and get to the ball carry
- 7:02Speaker 3: And that's what Derek Hall does. That's what Mike McDonald loves.
- 7:05Speaker 3: So they knew that. The Seahawks knew that, and they
- 7:08Speaker 3: offered him a lower than market value contract early in
- 7:12Speaker 3: the process of doing this, and he signs it. So
- 7:16Speaker 3: there's something to be said. Not every guy chases every dollar.
- 7:19Speaker 3: Now you can go on the flip side of that
- 7:21Speaker 3: and say, when you're twenty five years old in the
- 7:22Speaker 3: NFL and nothing's guaranteed beyond the year you're in, you
- 7:25Speaker 3: should probably get everything you can when you can, and
- 7:27Speaker 3: that's what agents tell you. And he did the opposite
- 7:30Speaker 3: of that.
- 7:31Speaker 5: How about Dante Fowler added to this rotation? What type
- 7:34Speaker 5: of impact do you think he'll make?
- 7:35Speaker 4: What was he got left?
- 7:37Speaker 3: Well, they're going to find that out, Dick, because I
- 7:41Speaker 3: think as of right now, he's shaping up to be
- 7:43Speaker 3: a situational third down guy and a pass rush specialist.
- 7:48Speaker 3: They thought maybe they would have that into Marcus Lawrence.
- 7:51Speaker 3: They weren't sure this time last year all that Lawrence
- 7:53Speaker 3: would give him, and they certainly didn't expect all that
- 7:56Speaker 3: Lawrence gave him at age thirty three in his twelfth
- 7:58Speaker 3: NFL season, and now he's back for thirteen at age
- 8:02Speaker 3: thirty four, looking exactly the same. I can't think that
- 8:06Speaker 3: they're going to expect that Saler's going to give him
- 8:09Speaker 3: what Lawrence did. Lawrence gave him a Pro Bowl, almost
- 8:11Speaker 3: all Pro season last year, so I would think it's
- 8:14Speaker 3: more of a third down limited thirty percent of snaps
- 8:19Speaker 3: in a game on defense until he proves he could
- 8:22Speaker 3: do more than that. But his pedigree, his demo has
- 8:25Speaker 3: been rushed the quarterback straight up field, and that's where
- 8:28Speaker 3: he's made his money. And they, of course, Mike McDonald,
- 8:32Speaker 3: of course, wants a run stuff for Red Setter that
- 8:35Speaker 3: can do more than just rush the quarterback, which is
- 8:38Speaker 3: why it looks like Foaler will have at least a
- 8:40Speaker 3: limited specialized role for now.
- 8:42Speaker 1: Greg Bell is with us from the Tacoma Who's Tribune
- 8:45Speaker 1: and of course ten to one here on Sports Radio
- 8:47Speaker 1: ninety three to three KJR as well. Of course, I
- 8:50Speaker 1: think one of the things that we've talked about a lot.
- 8:52Speaker 1: They signed JSN to his extension and now they've resigned
- 8:56Speaker 1: Derek Hall. Everyone is just waiting, when is this going
- 8:59Speaker 1: to happen with Evan Witherspoon. Are you surprised at all
- 9:01Speaker 1: that they extended Derek Hall before they extended Witherspoon?
- 9:05Speaker 3: No, because Hall took less of the market value, and
- 9:09Speaker 3: Witherspoon's going to be the top of the market, probably
- 9:11Speaker 3: the highest paid cornerback of the league, probably higher than
- 9:13Speaker 3: Terry McDuffie at thirty.
- 9:15Speaker 6: One million a year.
- 9:16Speaker 3: And when you get into that type of money. The
- 9:18Speaker 3: devil's in the details of when does the guaranteed money
- 9:21Speaker 3: come do, how much is guaranteed it's signing, how much
- 9:23Speaker 3: is against guaranteed against injury, what's the spread across the
- 9:26Speaker 3: entire length of the contract look like for your salary
- 9:29Speaker 3: cap All that takes time. Typically they are these type
- 9:33Speaker 3: of big, big ticket deals for their true foundation. Guys
- 9:36Speaker 3: come in the first days of training camp. So I
- 9:39Speaker 3: have been all along expecting for Witherspoon to sign on
- 9:42Speaker 3: or around July twenty fifth, when they start training camp,
- 9:45Speaker 3: and it's not an alarm that he's not signed yet.
- 9:49Speaker 3: Because Hall was willing to take less money and not
- 9:53Speaker 3: really drive them hard at the bargaining table. This got
- 9:55Speaker 3: done easily Jackson Smith and Jigbus was an anomaly for
- 9:59Speaker 3: as large as that con was, he also made it
- 10:02Speaker 3: relatively easy on the Seahawks negotiation wise, and took their offer,
- 10:06Speaker 3: which it wasn't peanuts. It was one hundred and sixty
- 10:08Speaker 3: eight million, the richest contract for a wide receiver NFL history.
- 10:13Speaker 3: Willison was gonna get done, But in the meantime, he's
- 10:15Speaker 3: not practicing. He's there, he's stretching, he's doing the initial stuff.
- 10:20Speaker 3: With his teammates, but when they start drilling and scrimmaging,
- 10:23Speaker 3: he is standing out. And that's like the mini holdout
- 10:27Speaker 3: way of hold in, way of saying I'm not getting hurt.
- 10:30Speaker 3: My agents tell him he don't even risk an injury
- 10:32Speaker 3: until you sign this new deal. And it's June. You
- 10:35Speaker 3: have a Super Bowl champion defense ats ranked number one
- 10:38Speaker 3: in the league last year. They don't need him practice
- 10:40Speaker 3: it in June.
- 10:41Speaker 5: What was the scuttle but over there yesterday about the
- 10:45Speaker 5: Miles Garrett signing our trade rather.
- 10:49Speaker 3: Okay, the Rams are coming to get us, Bring it on.
- 10:53Speaker 3: That's basically their mentality. We've reloaded. We've got forty nine
- 10:58Speaker 3: of fifty three players on our Super Bowl from last year.
- 11:00Speaker 3: We have twenty of twenty two starters returning on both
- 11:03Speaker 3: sides of the ball. We have the number one defense,
- 11:06Speaker 3: we won the Super Bowl last year. Come give us.
- 11:09Speaker 3: No one's saying that outwardly, but that's there. They are
- 11:13Speaker 3: very confident and Julian excuse me, talked about this a
- 11:18Speaker 3: little bit yesterday. Where they are mentality wise on the
- 11:24Speaker 3: field x's and o's wise and stalling wise, they're so
- 11:27Speaker 3: far ahead of even last year, which last year, they
- 11:30Speaker 3: were so far ahead of the year before because the
- 11:31Speaker 3: year before was Mike McDonald's per season. But the veterans,
- 11:35Speaker 3: the Julian Love, Devin Witherspoon, DeMarcus Lawrence, Leonard Williams, Ernest Jones,
- 11:42Speaker 3: they are so far ahead because they saw McDonald's system
- 11:46Speaker 3: work to win a Super Bowl last year, and it's like,
- 11:50Speaker 3: there's nothing that this team doesn't believe in Mike McDonald. McDonald,
- 11:55Speaker 3: in fact, is now switching up a little bit. He's
- 11:57Speaker 3: doing a little different fronts. He's changing up some blitz packages.
- 12:00Speaker 3: He's got a.
- 12:00Speaker 6: Counter to the counter that the Rams in the.
- 12:02Speaker 3: League are going to have for the Seahawks this year.
- 12:05Speaker 3: But the evolution of this program, they are quantum leaps
- 12:10Speaker 3: ahead of where they were this time last year because
- 12:12Speaker 3: now it's been proven to the veteran that this works.
- 12:14Speaker 3: The buying is off the charts. So the Rams, I mean,
- 12:19Speaker 3: they could bring in Joe Montana and Ronnie Lott, and
- 12:23Speaker 3: they could bring in the greatest players of the last
- 12:26Speaker 3: generation and the Seahawks attitude would still be the same.
- 12:30Speaker 3: The other thing they did they have been talking about
- 12:32Speaker 3: is we don't play the Rams until Christmas for the
- 12:34Speaker 3: first time, so we have a lot of other things
- 12:36Speaker 3: to worry about and do until we get to the Rams.
- 12:39Speaker 3: They're not the only thing on the Seahawks minds.
- 12:41Speaker 1: Yeah, that is true. That is what I think is
- 12:43Speaker 1: the benefit. Plus, you get a lot of tape to
- 12:45Speaker 1: watch of the Rams by the time you're actually playing them.
- 12:48Speaker 2: Greg.
- 12:49Speaker 1: Something else happened yesterday with a former Seahawks Russell Wilson
- 12:52Speaker 1: announced his retirement. I was actually personally looking forward to
- 12:56Speaker 1: seeing him back up Gino. I just felt like that
- 12:57Speaker 1: was really a full circle opportunity there. He of course
- 13:01Speaker 1: didn't actually say the words I'm retiring. He just said
- 13:04Speaker 1: thank you football and really hinted that he's done. How
- 13:09Speaker 1: we know how he ranks as far as Seahawks quarterbacks
- 13:12Speaker 1: go and Seahawks players go. But as far as the
- 13:14Speaker 1: NFL and Hall of Fame do you think that he's
- 13:16Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame worthy player?
- 13:20Speaker 3: He's close. He might be one yard close. The discriminator
- 13:27Speaker 3: for quarterbacks between winning one Super Bowl and two is
- 13:30Speaker 3: large as far as Canton goes. And that's the rub
- 13:35Speaker 3: with him. It's easy to have recency bias and say, well,
- 13:38Speaker 3: he's a failure. No, he wasn't right. For ten years,
- 13:43Speaker 3: he was the best quarterback the Seacks have ever had.
- 13:45Speaker 3: He's one of the best athletes and people Seattle sports
- 13:49Speaker 3: has ever had. And anyone who's lived in Seattle beyond
- 13:53Speaker 3: the day knows that, no matter how he ended it,
- 13:56Speaker 3: no matter how he forced his way out at his
- 13:59Speaker 3: best and his during those ten years, there was no
- 14:02Speaker 3: one better that Seattle's ever had in any sport, Ken
- 14:05Speaker 3: Griffey Junior included. But people don't remember that. So a
- 14:11Speaker 3: couple of years from now, a couple decades from now,
- 14:14Speaker 3: they'll look back and realize that Russell Wilson was the
- 14:17Speaker 3: best who ever did it here in Seattle got him
- 14:19Speaker 3: their first Super Bowl championship. The thing I wrote about
- 14:22Speaker 3: this morning the News Tribune is and it's something that
- 14:25Speaker 3: Wilson touched on in his video saying Goodbye to football.
- 14:30Speaker 3: His truest legacy, guys, isn't even on the field here.
- 14:34Speaker 3: What he was best at doing was he elevated people
- 14:38Speaker 3: around him. He used the platform of football to make
- 14:41Speaker 3: people better, to make Seattle Children, for instance. I could
- 14:45Speaker 3: go on and on about My wife works at Seattle Children.
- 14:48Speaker 3: She saw firsthand how he transformed families there and how
- 14:51Speaker 3: they had Blue Tuesdays instead of Blue Fridays, with the
- 14:55Speaker 3: patients and the patient's families waiting for Russell Wilson to
- 14:57Speaker 3: show up. Wilson by away the very first Tuesday he
- 15:02Speaker 3: was ever here. In twenty twelve, in the spring after
- 15:04Speaker 3: the SEAHOKX drafted in the third round out of Wisconsin,
- 15:06Speaker 3: the very first Tuesday he was here for Roockie Minicamp.
- 15:08Speaker 3: He showed up unannounced at Seattle Children's and he went
- 15:12Speaker 3: to the front desk, the visitor's desk, he said, Hi,
- 15:14Speaker 3: I'm Russell Wilson, and the guard said, who are you?
- 15:19Speaker 3: We don't know who you are. And from that point
- 15:22Speaker 3: he wanted to go see the kids.
- 15:23Speaker 6: And from that point on.
- 15:24Speaker 3: Every Tuesday for ten years, in season and off and
- 15:28Speaker 3: out of season, he was there. And for those that
- 15:31Speaker 3: worked there, those who were having to be inside children's hospital,
- 15:36Speaker 3: families impacted by the life changing, life challenging events that
- 15:41Speaker 3: happened inside that hospital. For young kids, he changed their lives.
- 15:45Speaker 3: And if you can take sports and have that impact
- 15:48Speaker 3: beyond sports, you're transcendent. I could go on and on
- 15:53Speaker 3: about how much I think Russ Wilson means this community
- 15:55Speaker 3: still and I think it's a shame how his legacy
- 15:59Speaker 3: got tarnished by how it ended and then what happened
- 16:01Speaker 3: with Denver and Pittsburgh Giants on a football sense. To
- 16:06Speaker 3: answer your question again, I think he's very close, but
- 16:09Speaker 3: I don't think right now he would be a Hall
- 16:11Speaker 3: of Fame player. He could be someone who ended up
- 16:14Speaker 3: getting up in a senior committee and a second go
- 16:17Speaker 3: around typening, but I think it's going to be tough
- 16:21Speaker 3: on a modern near about for him to get in.
- 16:24Speaker 5: Well, it's interesting you brought up one yard away because
- 16:27Speaker 5: I'm not going to pound the table for Russell Wilson
- 16:30Speaker 5: to make the Hall of Fame. But if that play
- 16:35Speaker 5: goes differently, I don't think there's any question, Yeah, anybody's
- 16:39Speaker 5: so it's like, how do we how do we go
- 16:42Speaker 5: from hell, I don't know, to one play going different?
- 16:46Speaker 5: There really wasn't his fault for him being a shoe in.
- 16:50Speaker 5: I mean that that seems you know, there's got to
- 16:53Speaker 5: be some nuance in there instead of just a no
- 16:56Speaker 5: or a yes based upon one play.
- 16:59Speaker 3: Well, it's perception a two times super Bowl champion versus
- 17:02Speaker 3: a Trent Dilfer or Now he's better than Trent Dilfer.
- 17:06Speaker 3: You get my point. A quarterback who won one Super
- 17:09Speaker 3: Bowl with a great defense, But that's the perception and
- 17:13Speaker 3: then voter's mind sometimes that's what matters. You're right, it's
- 17:17Speaker 3: a pretty fine hair to split. I would take a
- 17:20Speaker 3: little exception that he did throw the ball, and he
- 17:23Speaker 3: did throw the ball to Ricardo Lockett, which is one
- 17:25Speaker 3: of the maybe fifth receiver on the options, but that
- 17:29Speaker 3: was a play call. Yes, but he threw the ball,
- 17:31Speaker 3: so there's culpability there. But I get it. Everything else
- 17:37Speaker 3: up to that point says he could be a Hall
- 17:39Speaker 3: of Famer if he completes that pass. Yeah. I think
- 17:42Speaker 3: that is true, and that's what makes his case so
- 17:45Speaker 3: intriguing and difficult for me. But I mean, if I
- 17:53Speaker 3: was a Hall of Fame voter, which is a very
- 17:55Speaker 3: select group of only fifty, I would probably vote him
- 17:58Speaker 3: in for how big he was to the sport, in
- 18:01Speaker 3: the franchise in the Pacific Northwest, and he won the
- 18:04Speaker 3: first Super Bowl. But then you get into the comparisons
- 18:08Speaker 3: of other quarterbacks who aren't in, and then his legacy
- 18:10Speaker 3: gets his candidacy gets a little more cloud than that interesting.
- 18:15Speaker 1: It's going to be a debate that we're going to
- 18:16Speaker 1: have for I'm sure years, and here's in years of
- 18:20Speaker 1: whether or not he's worthy. I was listening to Softy
- 18:22Speaker 1: and Dick and Jackson yesterday and Jackson bringing up the
- 18:25Speaker 1: idea that maybe he's heading to CBS to help improve
- 18:29Speaker 1: his Hall of Fame chances.
- 18:30Speaker 6: As well if they worked for Bill Kauer.
- 18:32Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what they brought up.
- 18:35Speaker 7: I don't know that's a possibility, and that's he's nothing
- 18:39Speaker 7: if he's not aware of perceptions and how to And
- 18:44Speaker 7: I mean, for instance, he made sure he was on
- 18:46Speaker 7: every Pro Bowl.
- 18:47Speaker 3: Team, even when he was an alternate, even when he
- 18:49Speaker 3: probably shouldn't have been there, even when the season was
- 18:50Speaker 3: too long, he took the alternate selection so that he
- 18:54Speaker 3: can say.
- 18:54Speaker 6: He was a ten time Pro Bowl player.
- 18:57Speaker 3: But okay, so what he still is what he was
- 19:00Speaker 3: for the Seahawks. He still is what he was for
- 19:02Speaker 3: this community. I would argue, you have it, and this
- 19:06Speaker 3: is always a litmus test for many about Hall of Fame.
- 19:08Speaker 3: I would argue, you can't mention his generation of NFL
- 19:12Speaker 3: football without mentioning Russell Wilson. If you talk about the
- 19:16Speaker 3: NFL from twenty ten to twenty twenty five, Russell Wilson
- 19:20Speaker 3: has to be in that conversation somewhere, yes, and that
- 19:23Speaker 3: usually is defining trade for a Hall of Famer. That's
- 19:27Speaker 3: why this is such a It is an interesting argument,
- 19:29Speaker 3: and it's back and forth. But I will tell you
- 19:32Speaker 3: I had an absolute pleasure of.
- 19:34Speaker 6: Covering him, of getting to know him on and.
- 19:36Speaker 3: Off the field, seeing him at Children's hospital first hand,
- 19:39Speaker 3: when I go pick up my wife. You're talking the
- 19:41Speaker 3: wrong guy to try to knock Russell Wilson.
- 19:44Speaker 6: I think he is.
- 19:45Speaker 3: I think he's transcendent as far as an athlete who
- 19:49Speaker 3: made people better and I saw him change lives. He
- 19:52Speaker 3: will always be a top rank for me.
- 19:54Speaker 4: There you go.
- 19:54Speaker 1: I like the positive spin. I mean again, what he
- 19:57Speaker 1: did here was fantastic. It's just unfortunately way he left.
- 20:00Speaker 1: And I think a lot of that his own doing. Unfortunately,
- 20:03Speaker 1: had it been he just left, okay, nobody would have
- 20:06Speaker 1: a problem. But it was the stuff, kind of the
- 20:08Speaker 1: stuff that happened prior to that, that is, I don't know,
- 20:11Speaker 1: tarnished a lot of people here. Not about his skills,
- 20:13Speaker 1: just about the way it ended.
- 20:15Speaker 2: Greg. I appreciate, and.
- 20:16Speaker 3: He absolutely engineered his way out of here. Yeah. Yeah,
- 20:19Speaker 3: And the way it ended absolutely tarnishes his legacy. But
- 20:22Speaker 3: I'm just saying that I think you can look back
- 20:25Speaker 3: as a whole.
- 20:26Speaker 1: Yes, there was a lot of positives that he did
- 20:28Speaker 1: before that. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Greg, thank you so much
- 20:31Speaker 1: for joining us this morning. You are on ten to
- 20:33Speaker 1: one today. What's on your show?
- 20:36Speaker 3: We'll talk NBA finals. I talked with a writer who
- 20:39Speaker 3: was there last night in the building about Jalen Brunston
- 20:42Speaker 3: just taking over the fourth quarter. I'll mention I'll talk
- 20:44Speaker 3: more about this Russell Wilson, what his true legacy was,
- 20:46Speaker 3: and we'll talk about Derek Hall. We'll talk about what
- 20:49Speaker 3: I saw on the field yesterday, who didn't practice, Devin
- 20:51Speaker 3: Witherspoon's stance, which really isn't that big a deal.
- 20:55Speaker 6: I'll talk about everything I saw practice yesterday too perfect.
- 20:58Speaker 1: All right, that is Greg Bell. He will be on
- 21:00Speaker 1: your airwaves ten to one or tend to noon. Sorry
- 21:02Speaker 1: right here on Sports Radio ninety three three KJR.
- 21:05Speaker 4: Thank you, Gregg.
- 21:08Speaker 2: Greg has gone, he said, thanks. I could hear it.
- 21:10Speaker 1: Yeah, he's out, he is done.
- 21:13Speaker 4: Two and a half hours.
- 21:13Speaker 2: I've had enough of you fools.
- 21:15Speaker 1: All right, we are going to be back to talk
- 21:16Speaker 1: a little bit more Mariners with the ABC's coming up
- 21:19Speaker 1: at Sports Radio ninety three three KJRFM. But the ABC's
- 21:24Speaker 1: at the MS it is a daily segment. It doesn't always,
- 21:27Speaker 1: you know, fall in.
- 21:28Speaker 2: Line with what happened in the game the night before.
- 21:31Speaker 1: Today's is going to fall in line with what happened
- 21:33Speaker 1: in the night in the game the night before, just
- 21:34Speaker 1: because the alphabet predicted, like I met the mercy of
- 21:37Speaker 1: the alphabet.
- 21:38Speaker 2: I don't make this stuff up, right, Yeah, we all are.
- 21:41Speaker 1: It's true. I think about that all the time, Travis.
- 21:43Speaker 1: I think about that all the time. It is brought
- 21:46Speaker 1: to you by Sunset Chevrolet, and if I had the copy,
- 21:48Speaker 1: i'd read the whole thing. But I will tell you
- 21:50Speaker 1: that Sunset Chevrolet is great and people do like it.
- 21:53Speaker 4: I know that's their tag.
- 21:55Speaker 2: That's their tagline.
- 21:55Speaker 1: So I know I got that part, all right, Well
- 21:58Speaker 1: I got half of it. We're going to start at
- 22:00Speaker 1: the letter J because that is where we left off yesterday.
- 22:04Speaker 1: Jay is for Josh as in nailer boy. I think
- 22:06Speaker 1: we can all agree we love Josh Taylor, like great
- 22:09Speaker 1: addition to the team. We're happy he's here, but we
- 22:12Speaker 1: can also agree we aren't seeing that same exceptional defense
- 22:15Speaker 1: that we saw when he got here last year and
- 22:16Speaker 1: throughout the playoffs. I did go back and look, so
- 22:19Speaker 1: his war right now minus point two overall, So that's
- 22:23Speaker 1: taking into account his offense and his defense. It was
- 22:25Speaker 1: two point two when he was with the Mariners last year,
- 22:28Speaker 1: So second half of the season it's actually point zero
- 22:31Speaker 1: seven or zero point seven, No, minus point seven, minus
- 22:36Speaker 1: point seven when you look at just his defense. That
- 22:39Speaker 1: was a point three defensively for the Mariners. So he
- 22:42Speaker 1: did have a positive war defensively in the second half
- 22:45Speaker 1: of last year when he was with the Mariners.
- 22:47Speaker 4: He was picking everything like.
- 22:49Speaker 1: It was actually his best defensive performance that he's had
- 22:53Speaker 1: in his career. So when we say it was like,
- 22:56Speaker 1: we weren't expecting to get that good of a first
- 22:58Speaker 1: basement and we got him, it was because that was unexpected.
- 23:03Speaker 5: Because I just remember him everything coming at him. He
- 23:07Speaker 5: was grabbing like wild throws, stretching out. I was like, wow,
- 23:11Speaker 5: you're like Dumby even though you're five nothing.
- 23:13Speaker 1: I felt like he was Spider Man like. Things just
- 23:15Speaker 1: stuck to him. I was like, I don't know what's happening.
- 23:17Speaker 1: This is incredible. This guy's amazing. He does the splits
- 23:20Speaker 1: at first base like every other throw to him, And
- 23:23Speaker 1: I don't know if it's that now we've got I mean,
- 23:27Speaker 1: he had Cole.
- 23:27Speaker 2: Young there last year.
- 23:29Speaker 1: But I wonder if you know, there's just been some
- 23:31Speaker 1: changes to the infield, if that's what it is, if
- 23:33Speaker 1: it's that, because you know, JP's arm isn't what it
- 23:36Speaker 1: used to be, and we've seen improvements in col Young,
- 23:39Speaker 1: but those aren't those you know, that's not necessarily falling
- 23:42Speaker 1: on Josh Naylor.
- 23:43Speaker 2: But yeah, but we see.
- 23:44Speaker 4: Some of those throws from Crawford Wemby couldn't get right.
- 23:47Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and then like there was the throw from
- 23:50Speaker 1: cold Everson that hit him in the thigh. I mean,
- 23:52Speaker 1: he's like ready for it out here and it's just
- 23:54Speaker 1: beams them in the.
- 23:55Speaker 2: Side of the thigh. So it's you know, there's certain
- 23:57Speaker 2: things that are out of his control.
- 23:59Speaker 1: But last year Josh Naylor would have made all of
- 24:03Speaker 1: those guys look like superstars because he.
- 24:05Speaker 2: Was, as you said, picking everything.
- 24:08Speaker 4: Could you imagine Wemby at first.
- 24:11Speaker 5: Well, fifteen foot radius, you just have to throw the
- 24:14Speaker 5: ball somewhere in this fifteen foot radius and it's going
- 24:17Speaker 5: to be an out.
- 24:18Speaker 1: I'd say, actually, it would be either the best or
- 24:20Speaker 1: the worst thing ever, right, because he'd either just catch
- 24:23Speaker 1: it all. But you have to think those granted he'd
- 24:27Speaker 1: have a glove. The glove would be huge, glove would
- 24:29Speaker 1: be huge, jose Al Tuve could sleep in it. But
- 24:35Speaker 1: or it would be the worst because he's just so long.
- 24:38Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. I'm just presuming that he
- 24:40Speaker 2: could catch.
- 24:41Speaker 5: I guess if he could catch like a big league
- 24:43Speaker 5: first baseman and he had the arms of when, now I.
- 24:45Speaker 2: Want to see it.
- 24:47Speaker 1: Now, I want to see it. We got to get
- 24:48Speaker 1: Wemby in a celebrity softball game at first base. Someone
- 24:50Speaker 1: make him a glove. Someone make him a glove. So
- 24:52Speaker 1: I don't know, I just hope we can find some
- 24:55Speaker 1: of that magic.
- 24:56Speaker 2: I don't expect Naylor to be as nails as he
- 24:59Speaker 2: was last year.
- 25:00Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, because obviously, looking at his career, that's
- 25:03Speaker 1: just not the kind of first basement he is. But
- 25:06Speaker 1: I also don't expect what we're getting from him right now.
- 25:09Speaker 1: I agree, So hopefully we're we can.
- 25:13Speaker 5: I think the whole defensive team is going to just
- 25:17Speaker 5: kind of lock in a little bit more and make
- 25:19Speaker 5: it look more like it did last year during the
- 25:22Speaker 5: end of the season than it has in the first
- 25:24Speaker 5: couple months.
- 25:25Speaker 1: I mean they have to, right, if we're going to
- 25:26Speaker 1: get to the playoffs. Yes, yeah, because that would all right? Kay,
- 25:30Speaker 1: See again, this is the alphabet. This is not for me,
- 25:32Speaker 1: but it is in align with game last night. Kay
- 25:34Speaker 1: is for Kirby. George through four innings last night, giving
- 25:37Speaker 1: up nine hits, five runs, four of them earned, so
- 25:39Speaker 1: one unearned, and only striking out five. So we aren't
- 25:42Speaker 1: seeing that fully dominant Kirby that we.
- 25:45Speaker 2: Are used to seeing.
- 25:46Speaker 1: But I feel like we never really see him just
- 25:50Speaker 1: start to finish dominate, right. He does have some of
- 25:53Speaker 1: those blow up games. We do see angry George at times.
- 25:56Speaker 1: We have seen some of the flashes of the dominant
- 25:58Speaker 1: George we've seen, And so I'm torn because we're having
- 26:02Speaker 1: this whole conversation about the six man rotation versus the
- 26:05Speaker 1: piggyback versus all these things. I mean, we've got people
- 26:07Speaker 1: suggesting George go to the bullpen, which I disagree with.
- 26:10Speaker 1: But he he has tended to be our most reliable
- 26:15Speaker 1: picture as far as going length in a game. But
- 26:19Speaker 1: he also has the highest era, So I think I
- 26:21Speaker 1: wouldn't mind seeing the piggyback next time we come around.
- 26:24Speaker 1: If we do with Kirby and Castillo, how would you
- 26:29Speaker 1: guys feel about that?
- 26:32Speaker 5: I'd be okay bouncing Castillo around different guys. I don't
- 26:36Speaker 5: know if I just like necessarily say I want Kirby.
- 26:38Speaker 1: That yeah, okay, one of the Yeah, I would yeah,
- 26:41Speaker 1: bouncing him around. But I wouldn't mind seeing Kirby in
- 26:43Speaker 1: that role because it has I mean, I think it
- 26:46Speaker 1: could help.
- 26:47Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I think.
- 26:48Speaker 5: I mean it's it's worked for Miller and Castillo thus far.
- 26:50Speaker 5: I'm not angry about what George has done this year, No,
- 26:54Speaker 5: but I'm curious to.
- 26:55Speaker 4: What I did there.
- 26:56Speaker 2: Yes, I do that was good.
- 26:57Speaker 5: I'm curious to see We talked earlier about the right
- 27:00Speaker 5: Out to Walk ratio that has been plummeting for George
- 27:02Speaker 5: Kirby over the last few years. And what's different about
- 27:05Speaker 5: this year is like the games are kind of clunky.
- 27:09Speaker 4: They're not like blow up games for Kirby.
- 27:11Speaker 5: They're just kind of clunky going through, whereas last year
- 27:14Speaker 5: he was like nails, nails, nails, nails absolutely horrible, right, nails, nails, nails,
- 27:19Speaker 5: nails absolutely.
- 27:20Speaker 4: I kind of rather have that George Kirby where.
- 27:23Speaker 5: I know that four out of five times, Yeah, you're
- 27:27Speaker 5: probably gonna win.
- 27:28Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's so good.
- 27:30Speaker 1: You knew if you got the one bad one, that
- 27:31Speaker 1: wasn't going to be repeated the next game.
- 27:33Speaker 5: Exactly, Yeah, exactly. And this year he's kind of stacked
- 27:35Speaker 5: them a little bit, especially lately.
- 27:37Speaker 1: Would you feel comfortable doing piggyback with not you personally
- 27:41Speaker 1: piggybacking with Kirby, but Castillo and Kirby.
- 27:44Speaker 4: It would not be a good strategy.
- 27:45Speaker 2: No, that would not work out.
- 27:47Speaker 8: Well, I think it's a good idea, Personally, I'm kind
- 27:50Speaker 8: of worried about what it would do to the clubhouse
- 27:53Speaker 8: or to the mental state of George. Yeah, because of
- 27:56Speaker 8: what we saw happen with Castillo, although in the end
- 27:59Speaker 8: it did like a fire under his ass and he
- 28:01Speaker 8: started pitching his you know, pitching lights out.
- 28:03Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm for it.
- 28:05Speaker 8: I don't think I don't necessarily think they're gonna keep
- 28:08Speaker 8: messing with the rotation like that.
- 28:10Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, and I will say that's the thing,
- 28:13Speaker 1: especially because we have seen George have some trouble with
- 28:15Speaker 1: his emotions and things like that, He's gotten so much
- 28:17Speaker 1: better at being able to control him, but I wonder
- 28:19Speaker 1: if that would be more difficult. But I just think
- 28:21Speaker 1: in the spirit of competition, right, like, let's make I
- 28:25Speaker 1: mean to quote the great Pete Carroll, always compete.
- 28:28Speaker 3: Yes.
- 28:28Speaker 5: Can you imagine though, like what the fan base would
- 28:31Speaker 5: do if Dan came out and said, yeah, we're gonna
- 28:34Speaker 5: piggyback Castille with Kirby. Now, yeah, the fan base would
- 28:38Speaker 5: be like, are you just trying to screw everybody up?
- 28:41Speaker 4: I mean, that's at least what the That would be
- 28:43Speaker 4: the perception.
- 28:44Speaker 1: Right, But that may work, but you have to look
- 28:46Speaker 1: at what's actually happened with it and what happened with
- 28:49Speaker 1: Castillo when he was forced into that role, and so
- 28:52Speaker 1: then you kind of have to at least be curious
- 28:54Speaker 1: about it. There you go, Oh god, I didn't even
- 28:57Speaker 1: mean to do that one. All right, we'll go quickly.
- 29:00Speaker 1: LS four L. The Mariners got their first L in
- 29:03Speaker 1: nine games yesterday.
- 29:04Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 29:04Speaker 2: That was hard, wasn't it.
- 29:06Speaker 1: They needed all of those ws to get the ship
- 29:08Speaker 1: righted after an ugly start to the season. So now
- 29:10Speaker 1: after the eight game win streak and the L, they
- 29:12Speaker 1: are thirty three and thirty. I think I got that right,
- 29:15Speaker 1: three games over five hundred and first place in the
- 29:17Speaker 1: AL West, two games ahead of the A's and where
- 29:20Speaker 1: we actually feel like they should be and where they
- 29:22Speaker 1: should have been a month ago. So let's keep this
- 29:26Speaker 1: train rolling on the road trip. There you go. That's
- 29:28Speaker 1: the ABC's of the MS, A daily segment, a daily
- 29:31Speaker 1: Mariner segment, not always in relation to the game, but
- 29:34Speaker 1: today it just worked out to kind of flow that way.
- 29:38Speaker 1: One other thing happened yesterday. I mean, there were a
- 29:40Speaker 1: lot of things that happened yesterday, but one other big
- 29:42Speaker 1: thing happened yesterday, and that was the.
- 29:44Speaker 2: NBA Finals Game one.
- 29:45Speaker 1: We're going to talk a little bit about it coming
- 29:47Speaker 1: up at Sports Radio ninety three to three KJRFM. Sports
- 30:00Speaker 1: Radio ninety three to three kJ r FM. It is
- 30:03Speaker 1: Ashley Ryan, Dick Vane, and Travis Moger in this morning
- 30:06Speaker 1: for Chuck and Buck. Yes, both Chuck and Buck are fine.
- 30:09Speaker 1: Chuck is just taking a couple days off. Bucky still
- 30:12Speaker 1: out on medical leave. And we had Game one of
- 30:15Speaker 1: the NBA Finals last night in San Antonio.
- 30:18Speaker 2: I really thought San Antonio was.
- 30:20Speaker 1: Gonna get the game one win, and maybe that was
- 30:23Speaker 1: just because that's who I wanted to get the game
- 30:25Speaker 1: one win, although at the same time, I don't know
- 30:28Speaker 1: that I really care now that Oklahoma City's out of it.
- 30:30Speaker 1: If I care who wins, I'm like, as long as
- 30:33Speaker 1: it's ab OKC anyone but Oka see And that has happened.
- 30:36Speaker 1: So we've had the Spurs in the Knicks matching up
- 30:38Speaker 1: in game one and the Knicks was there.
- 30:41Speaker 2: Was it their twelfth win in a row?
- 30:42Speaker 4: Yes, twelfth win in a round forty three days without
- 30:45Speaker 4: a loss.
- 30:46Speaker 2: So that's been the big thing.
- 30:48Speaker 1: Can the Knicks keep up playing how they had been playing?
- 30:52Speaker 1: And apparently they could at least for one more game?
- 30:56Speaker 1: What I guess What were your thoughts on watching that game?
- 30:59Speaker 1: Are you surprise the Spurs lost? Are you surprised the
- 31:02Speaker 1: Knicks were able to continue that win streak?
- 31:04Speaker 5: You know, I thought the Knicks would get one in
- 31:06Speaker 5: San Antonio. I have got San Antonio in seven. But
- 31:10Speaker 5: I think the Knicks match up really well with San
- 31:13Speaker 5: Antonio because they can throw so many different bigs. They
- 31:16Speaker 5: can throw annanubi at at Wemby, they can throw Mitchell
- 31:19Speaker 5: Robinson at Wemby.
- 31:20Speaker 4: They can they can throw cat at Wemby.
- 31:22Speaker 5: I mean, they got the guys that they can that
- 31:25Speaker 5: they can throw, and it really wore him down. And
- 31:27Speaker 5: so the adjustment's going to be on the load of
- 31:30Speaker 5: Mitch Johnson on how they can get him more free
- 31:32Speaker 5: And because I thought Wemby also looked tired, he looked fatigued.
- 31:36Speaker 5: There was a there was a play in the third
- 31:38Speaker 5: quarter there was a long rebound.
- 31:41Speaker 4: Wemby was on the wing.
- 31:42Speaker 5: And he was I thought it was one of those
- 31:46Speaker 5: where Wemby, I thought, was gonna sprint ahead of the ball,
- 31:49Speaker 5: take his take the ball the third at the three
- 31:51Speaker 5: point line, make one dribble and dunk it, and he
- 31:54Speaker 5: just kind of downshifted and just kind of floated to
- 31:59Speaker 5: the corner and didn't run the floor on us like
- 32:01Speaker 5: that looks like a guy that is used to playing
- 32:05Speaker 5: twenty five minutes a game, that has been forced to
- 32:08Speaker 5: go seven games against OKAC, one of the games playing
- 32:11Speaker 5: fifty one minutes. Yeah, turning around in seventy two hours
- 32:15Speaker 5: and coming back and playing a game one here, and
- 32:17Speaker 5: I just it didn't look like the same guy. And
- 32:19Speaker 5: so the question is are we gonna get that same
- 32:22Speaker 5: guy back or is he just gonna be Is he
- 32:25Speaker 5: gonna have to watch his fatigue level the entire series,
- 32:27Speaker 5: because if that's the case, then the Spurs are in trouble.
- 32:30Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 32:30Speaker 1: Well, and it is interesting because we've seen Wemby struggle,
- 32:32Speaker 1: and I mean, this isn't the first game that he
- 32:34Speaker 1: struggled in the playoffs, right, We've seen I mean, he
- 32:37Speaker 1: threw elbows and got in trouble earlier in the playoffs
- 32:40Speaker 1: because he was so frustrated with how he was being guarded.
- 32:43Speaker 1: So but the Spurs obviously were able to figure that
- 32:46Speaker 1: out and they were able to you know, counteract, and
- 32:49Speaker 1: he has had a great rest of his playoffs. So
- 32:52Speaker 1: I'm just curious, Yeah, who is that Who's gonna win
- 32:54Speaker 1: that battle?
- 32:55Speaker 3: More?
- 32:55Speaker 1: Is it gonna be Mitch Johnson coming up with a
- 32:57Speaker 1: plan and Wemby coming up with a.
- 32:58Speaker 2: Plan to allow him to be Wemby?
- 33:01Speaker 1: Or is it gonna be that the Knicks have figured
- 33:02Speaker 1: out this formula that apparently nobody else could figure out
- 33:05Speaker 1: all year.
- 33:05Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think that another thing that was interesting
- 33:09Speaker 5: was how poorly Jalen Brunson played and then he was
- 33:13Speaker 5: unbelieved he was Jalen Brunson in the fourth quarter. I
- 33:15Speaker 5: remember watching a game in the like it was in
- 33:18Speaker 5: February and I was down in California with my son
- 33:21Speaker 5: and we just we went to a sports bar to
- 33:23Speaker 5: have a have a burger, right, and the next game
- 33:25Speaker 5: was on and we were and we were watching like
- 33:27Speaker 5: the third quarter of the next game.
- 33:28Speaker 4: My son was like, Brunson looks terrible, and I go.
- 33:31Speaker 5: Dude, wait till the fourth yeah, because that's when he
- 33:34Speaker 5: turned and that's just what he does. And he ended
- 33:36Speaker 5: up with like fourteen points in that fourth quarter and
- 33:38Speaker 5: they came back and won, and like, this is what
- 33:40Speaker 5: Jalen Brunson does.
- 33:41Speaker 4: He is gonna be a two for nine guy.
- 33:45Speaker 5: And then the fourth quarter's gonna come and he's gonna
- 33:47Speaker 5: score twelve points and dish out three assists and he's
- 33:49Speaker 5: gonna pull them out of the fire. I mean, he
- 33:52Speaker 5: is whatever Jalen Brunson is now in New York, which
- 33:56Speaker 5: is already legend status, Like he's already being talked about,
- 33:59Speaker 5: is the great nick of all time right now without
- 34:03Speaker 5: a championship, greater than Patrick Ewan.
- 34:05Speaker 4: That's what they are talking about in New York.
- 34:07Speaker 5: If he wins a championship, he's gonna be a sports
- 34:11Speaker 5: god in New York City.
- 34:13Speaker 1: Well and okay, so that is a good question, or
- 34:15Speaker 1: that brings up a question because he obviously left the
- 34:17Speaker 1: game last night when he got hit and the knee
- 34:20Speaker 1: and then had even the small ankle scare are the
- 34:23Speaker 1: knixt like if he's out, Like, if something happens and
- 34:27Speaker 1: he's out, is there do they have any chance because
- 34:30Speaker 1: it seems like they're so reliant on him. Yeah, they've
- 34:34Speaker 1: got great supportive players. I mean, kat is a star
- 34:37Speaker 1: on his own, but yeah, no, he's the strawest of
- 34:40Speaker 1: the dream.
- 34:40Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 34:41Speaker 5: I mean, if if Wemby is not nearly one hundred
- 34:44Speaker 5: percent Wemby, they're gonna lose. And if Jalen Brunce is
- 34:46Speaker 5: not nearly one hundred Brunson, they're gonna lose.
- 34:49Speaker 1: Which is Yeah, that's how you want it in a championship.
- 34:50Speaker 5: It's kind of typical. I mean, you play, you play
- 34:53Speaker 5: the way your superstars play. The interesting thing is that
- 34:56Speaker 5: Jalen Brunson is not thought of nationally as anyway voted
- 35:00Speaker 5: first team All NBA either, he was a second team
- 35:02Speaker 5: All NBA. He's not When you think of, okay, quick
- 35:04Speaker 5: name the best players in the NBA, you're probably down
- 35:08Speaker 5: to ten or more before you get to Jalen brunts. Yeah,
- 35:11Speaker 5: so that's what's unusual about if we're the.
- 35:14Speaker 4: Knicks were to win this championship, I'm not gonna call him.
- 35:18Speaker 5: A superstarless team because I would still kind of qualify
- 35:22Speaker 5: him as a superstar and Kat as a star level player,
- 35:25Speaker 5: almost a superstar. But so it's not like the you know,
- 35:28Speaker 5: the Four Pistons or whatever with truly no superstars, but
- 35:33Speaker 5: it would be the least amount of true superstars that
- 35:37Speaker 5: have won a championship in a long, long time, And
- 35:39Speaker 5: so they're gonna have to overcome that. Meanwhile, the Spurs
- 35:43Speaker 5: have to overcome their youth. I mean, guys don't win
- 35:46Speaker 5: championships as the number one overall player at twenty two
- 35:49Speaker 5: years of age. That just doesn't happen.
- 35:51Speaker 1: And coaches don't win championships in their first full five coaches,
- 35:54Speaker 1: that's right.
- 35:54Speaker 5: So you've got these huge hurdles that both these teams
- 35:57Speaker 5: are trying to overcome. And the nixt additional hurdle is
- 35:59Speaker 5: the fact they played nobody for three weeks in the playoffs,
- 36:04Speaker 5: a month and a half. I guess it was they
- 36:05Speaker 5: played they played nobody, they skated through and I think
- 36:08Speaker 5: I was one that thought, okay, the strength the schedules.
- 36:12Speaker 5: Now it's cool that you're beating the Cardinals and the
- 36:15Speaker 5: Browns and you know, now you get the Seahawks and
- 36:18Speaker 5: the Rams and we'll see how you do.
- 36:19Speaker 4: And so far they passed the first test.
- 36:21Speaker 2: Yeah, so far they did.
- 36:22Speaker 1: We did get a text on the Tacoma Dodge text
- 36:24Speaker 1: line that said, I want New York because I want
- 36:26Speaker 1: san Antonio to be hungry to beat OKAC again. I
- 36:29Speaker 1: do like that theory. There you go, but I think
- 36:32Speaker 1: they'll always be hungry for more.
- 36:35Speaker 4: Like I think Okay sees days are over.
- 36:37Speaker 1: I would because of san I I think, like the
- 36:40Speaker 1: most beautiful thing that you've ever seen.
- 36:41Speaker 5: I mean, I did not think it was going to
- 36:44Speaker 5: be this year. I thought there was going to be
- 36:46Speaker 5: one more year that OKAC did it. But san Antonio
- 36:49Speaker 5: showed that they are the better team than Okay see
- 36:52Speaker 5: and they're only getting better.
- 36:54Speaker 1: You brought tears to my eyes, Dick thing, What a
- 36:56Speaker 1: glorious morning, What a glorious morning. All right, Well, we
- 37:00Speaker 1: got a big, big sporting event happening here in North America,
- 37:03Speaker 1: here in town, and it is only a week away.
- 37:07Speaker 1: We are going to talk World Cup with Anders coming
- 37:08Speaker 1: up at Sports Radio ninety three three KJRFM,