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The Hidden Story of Humanity: Becket Fusik on Ancient Mysteries, Consciousness & Lost Civilizations · The Occult Rejects

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  Speaker 1: You see something's going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: What's going to happen?
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  Speaker 3: What I.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the occult rejects. Today we're diving into
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  Speaker 1: ancient mysteries, loss, civilizations, consciousness, and the future of independent
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  Speaker 1: research with someone who's helped bring many of these conversations
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  Speaker 1: to a worldwide audience. Our guest is Beckett Fusik, founder
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  Speaker 1: of Titan Network and co host alongside Randall Carlson on
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  Speaker 1: The Big Picture. Over the past several years, he's had
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  Speaker 1: a front row seat to conversation with some of the
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  Speaker 1: most respected voices in alternative history, geology, archaeology, mythology, and
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  Speaker 1: consciousness studies. But tonight isn't just about revisiting the mysteries them.
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  Speaker 1: It's about exploring how those mysteries shape to people who
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  Speaker 1: dedicate their lives to chasing them. What happens when you
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  Speaker 1: spend years immersed in conversations about forgotten civilizations, catastrophic cycles,
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  Speaker 1: secret traditions, and the biggest unanswered questions in human history.
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  Speaker 1: Do the pieces begin to fit together? Or do the
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  Speaker 1: mysteries only deepen. Has Beckett found a common thread connecting
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  Speaker 1: these seemingly different fields, or has the journey convinced him
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  Speaker 1: that reality is even stranger than we imagine. So, whether
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  Speaker 1: you followed Beckett's work for years or you're meeting him
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  Speaker 1: for the first time, this is going to be a
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  Speaker 1: thoughtful conversation about where we've come from, where we're headed,
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  Speaker 1: and what the forgotten wisdom of the past might still
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  Speaker 1: have to teach us. That's enough out of me. It
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  Speaker 1: was a good enough introw for Beckett. We've got no
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  Speaker 1: other rejects. It is just me flying solo tonight, which
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  Speaker 1: is fine with me. I know Beckett personally, so I'm
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  Speaker 1: not intimidated. I'm pretty sure i can handle the guests
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  Speaker 1: by myself. So please, Beckett, let everybody know what's up
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  Speaker 1: with you. Anything you know. Please promote the Titan whatever
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  Speaker 1: you want to promote everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thanks for the intro.
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  Speaker 3: It's a great intro too, And I mean that that
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  Speaker 3: thread is sort of what brought us all together, how
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  Speaker 3: I met you through Cosmic Summit, just asking questions, being
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  Speaker 3: curious about I mean, I think about it like arcane knowledge,
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  Speaker 3: you know, stuff that gets shrouded in all these strange
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  Speaker 3: terms or words. People label this stuff conspiracy theories, people
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  Speaker 3: lay it label this stuff. Uh, speculation, like you said,
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  Speaker 3: and there's there's some of that in it, but it all,
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  Speaker 3: at least for me, it started with questions, you know,
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  Speaker 3: just being curious about this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So thanks for having me on.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, of course. Uh so, yeah, I guess really,
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  Speaker 1: just when did you start asking questions? Like what was it?
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  Speaker 1: Was there a certain detiming factor or was it just
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  Speaker 1: gradual an inquisitive kid. It's just you know, when you
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  Speaker 1: were young.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you're definitely inquisitive. Yeah, a inquisitive kid, for sure.
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  Speaker 3: I've been asking questions about you know, like why is
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  Speaker 3: stuff like that?
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  Speaker 2: Always forever.
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  Speaker 3: My mom, whenever she sees the stuff we're doing now,
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  Speaker 3: she reminds me like, oh, you've you've.
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  Speaker 2: Always kind of been like this. Let me remind you
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  Speaker 2: of when you were a kid and you told this.
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  Speaker 3: Story about like I don't even know what the story is,
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  Speaker 3: but my mom always reminds me of me asking about
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  Speaker 3: Moses and the police. Still don't even know what it means,
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  Speaker 3: but it was like the first thing that she points
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  Speaker 3: to when I was one years old telling this story
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  Speaker 3: about Moses being taken by the police and being suppressed.
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  Speaker 3: Who are like a religious family or anything like that either.
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  Speaker 3: So I've always been very curious, very inquisitive, And I
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  Speaker 3: would say the first jump off point for me of
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  Speaker 3: my own research in this probably came through like looking
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  Speaker 3: into Illuminati bloodlines.
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  Speaker 1: Which yeah, that got me, Yeah, which.
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  Speaker 2: Sort of like was erupted through like three things.
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  Speaker 3: One my dad watched Dangent Aliens when I was younger,
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  Speaker 3: so none of this stuff was unfamiliar for me.
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  Speaker 2: I was in the meditation.
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  Speaker 3: My mom introduced me to that at a young age,
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  Speaker 3: and then I started to be really serious about building
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  Speaker 3: companies and entrepreneurship and self development and improvement, and that
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  Speaker 3: brought the conversation of manifestation into this, which then kind
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  Speaker 3: of led into the historical context, which it was.
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  Speaker 2: Like, okay, well where there has to be people.
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  Speaker 3: Who know things that I don't and that's why they're
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  Speaker 3: so successful or that's why they've been able to do
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  Speaker 3: amazing things. And you know, you hear about the Illuminati,
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  Speaker 3: you start researching that. I started researching Mason's and that
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  Speaker 3: was the first jump off point. And that was and
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  Speaker 3: that was over ten years ago now, so it's been
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  Speaker 3: a while.
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  Speaker 1: That's interesting. That's how you know from like where even
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  Speaker 1: where I'm at from getting into the a cult and
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  Speaker 1: having your own experience in the Oto and with ceremonial magic.
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  Speaker 1: It did really start for me looking into like I'm
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  Speaker 1: getting into conspiracies and starting to look into the bloodlines.
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  Speaker 1: And for me at one point, I was like, I
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  Speaker 1: know all these names, I know all these families, all
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  Speaker 1: these bad people, and supposedly what they did. I said,
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  Speaker 1: I still don't know what magic is. So that's why
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  Speaker 1: I went my round and joined the Secret Society. I said,
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  Speaker 1: fucking I'll find out what magic is, you know. And
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  Speaker 1: you found your way to look into other things kind
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  Speaker 1: of like you know, from other people or almost firsthand.
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  Speaker 1: Really yeah, all.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you start asking more questions about, like
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  Speaker 3: you said, like what is magic?
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  Speaker 2: How how do these people do what they do?
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  Speaker 1: Yeh? I mean, And I even think that ties into
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  Speaker 1: the stuff that you are covering, which is why I'm
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  Speaker 1: so interested in it. I do think it does in
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  Speaker 1: a sense.
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  Speaker 3: I think so, I mean, we can we can pull
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  Speaker 3: that thread for a little bit. I think that this
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  Speaker 3: is one that is central to my thinking. You kind
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  Speaker 3: of said in the introduction, the thread that connects everything
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  Speaker 3: to other This is this is the thing that I
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  Speaker 3: constantly try to improve my RTWQ relation and my communication
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  Speaker 3: around because I walked into the ancient civilizations world from
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  Speaker 3: more of a self development, from a health perspective even,
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  Speaker 3: and it just was natural. You know, these these questions
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  Speaker 3: about what are we as humans? What's possible? What is
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  Speaker 3: physical reality? Who understands that, what are they using it for?
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  Speaker 2: So on and so forth.
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  Speaker 3: They all circle something that's very i think, very human
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  Speaker 3: like internal to us, a whole for us to you know,
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  Speaker 3: pursue truth. It's not like to find one answer. It's
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  Speaker 3: that one answer or one discovery opens another door and
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  Speaker 3: it gives a new perspective and it's a journey takes
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  Speaker 3: you down this Yeah, this journey, this pursuit of this
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  Speaker 3: thing that you never really define.
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  Speaker 2: It's not supposed to be defined.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah right, I love that it's not supposed to be defined. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I can understand that. Yeah. It seems like the more
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  Speaker 1: stuff I get into, the more you either confused or
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  Speaker 1: brought it. So it's getting and yeah, I like that. Right.
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  Speaker 2: So you said you joined a secret society.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was in the OT Oh yeah, yeah
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  Speaker 1: for a few years for a minute. Yeah, yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: what I you know, and that's you know. What I
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  Speaker 1: thought was awesome too, is how you had like Freemasons
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  Speaker 1: and Knights templars that Cosmic Summit. And I really, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it again, I really do think like
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  Speaker 1: and that was a lot of things. Uh, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I was even saying to people at Cosmic Summit, some
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  Speaker 1: of the speakers and even some of you know, what
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  Speaker 1: are the people there with me? I really do think
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  Speaker 1: occultism is huge, like occult science, I think is like
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  Speaker 1: we're all looking at the same ship and looking at
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  Speaker 1: it in different ways. You know. Yeah, I think it's uh,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, I like it. I really thought it
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  Speaker 1: was good that they were that bomb Greenier awesome presentation
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  Speaker 1: that he did, you know, showing all the yeah yeah yeah,
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  Speaker 1: showing all this stuff with like some of the Freemason
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  Speaker 1: symbolism and how it like equals like all these other things.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, holy shit, this guy's bringing it back to
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  Speaker 1: science again, you know. And I think there's something there,
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  Speaker 1: you know, And I thought it was awesome that this
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  Speaker 1: stuff was going on there totally.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, have you funny enough?
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  Speaker 1: Wow?
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  Speaker 2: What a stack of books right there? These are the
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  Speaker 2: two books. I was just thinking about and I didn't
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  Speaker 2: plan that book.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes.
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  Speaker 2: You're teaching of all ages.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's a great book.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great book.
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  Speaker 3: I think that it's one that, uh, if you.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody should skim through it at least.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, skim through it.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think the opening chapter where they talk
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  Speaker 3: about the history of philosophy and it is an important
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  Speaker 3: starting point.
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  Speaker 2: Or maybe it's not even opening chapter.
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  Speaker 3: It's like the introduction because it sort of shows how
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  Speaker 3: the history of how we think and how we have
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  Speaker 3: been influenced into creating systems and institutions all has a
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  Speaker 3: philosophical background. Even even religion has a philosophical background, and
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  Speaker 3: it's been infused over the years. And philosophy is what
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  Speaker 3: a lot of the foundation of the sciences was. So
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  Speaker 3: we're talking about what's the common thread. Well, according to
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  Speaker 3: that book, I think they define it as philosophy, like
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  Speaker 3: it actually does have a starting point in something beyond
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  Speaker 3: just oh we're curious in something.
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  Speaker 1: I like that. That's a really interesting way to put it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a there's a really good opening line in here.
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  Speaker 3: If I can't find it, Yeah, here it is. Philosophy
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  Speaker 3: is the science of estimating values. That's the first line
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  Speaker 3: in it. The superiority of any state or substance over
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  Speaker 3: another is determined by philosophy, I mean immediately right there,
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  Speaker 3: like you kind of unpacked two different threads of Okay, well,
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  Speaker 3: what is our relationship to these things is sort of
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  Speaker 3: defined by our philosophy, which, then, I mean, you could
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  Speaker 3: pull that into math, you could pull that into literature.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot of different ways you can take it.
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  Speaker 1: I do like that. Are you into you into Platonism
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  Speaker 1: or neoplatonism sort of?
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  Speaker 2: I mean I find it all interesting.
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  Speaker 1: For sure, for sure, Yeah, yeah I could. I would
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  Speaker 1: never be able to call myself, at least not now
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  Speaker 1: neoplaton is what platon is. But I am very interested
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  Speaker 1: in that stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think that I think that
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  Speaker 3: Plato has had a big influence on the world.
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  Speaker 1: But well, when you said religions, I think he especially
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  Speaker 1: had influence, or at least Neoplatonists kind of had influence
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  Speaker 1: in Christianity. So I thought, maybe that's what you meant.
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  Speaker 1: That's why if you're into Plato.
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  Speaker 2: No, totally.
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  Speaker 3: I mean I think that a lot of the philosophies
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  Speaker 3: are built have have built modern Christianity. But oh, the
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  Speaker 3: philosophy and religion I think used to be more competing
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  Speaker 3: and like there was actually a harder line between them.
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  Speaker 3: This is okay, let's speculate here we go, nick, I
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  Speaker 3: speculate that in the past, because the information systems weren't
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  Speaker 3: accessible to every single person at all times like we
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  Speaker 3: have today, that there was probably a stronger competing forces,
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  Speaker 3: a stronger duality to the competing forces of like how
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  Speaker 3: do you process the world? And what's the leading philosophy
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  Speaker 3: right now? And what is the religion of your government,
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  Speaker 3: your state, your king tell you? And the same way
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  Speaker 3: those are the political parties of the time, I guess
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  Speaker 3: you could say, or the big competing powers. They're going
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  Speaker 3: to affect each other and change. So then Platonism affects
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  Speaker 3: Christianity in that time, the king adapts and then Plato
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  Speaker 3: dies to School continues and these people continue to Socrates
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  Speaker 3: then is building on that philosophy, and that's influencing Christianity.
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  Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying doing a dance.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, for sure, for sure, no, I totally
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  Speaker 1: agree what you're saying. I would even say, like the
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  Speaker 1: whole thing of philosophy, it would be like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: if like, if you're gonna start saying that you believe
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  Speaker 1: you know in God, it's gonna be well, just find
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  Speaker 1: God before you even say you believe in that. Like
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, It's gonna like really get
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  Speaker 1: deep into certain things, and I think that helps kind
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  Speaker 1: of like what you're saying, and it might almost refine
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  Speaker 1: an idea with them kind of bounces back and it's
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  Speaker 1: kind of constantly growing with each other. H yeah, yeah, nice.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't want to get into uh. I know, you
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  Speaker 1: have spent years interviewing some of the biggest names in
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  Speaker 1: alternative history. After all those conversations, was there like one
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  Speaker 1: belief that has really changed the most of you since then,
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  Speaker 1: or anybody who really impacted you hard with something that
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  Speaker 1: you've you know, present, I.
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  Speaker 3: Mean Randall, Randall and I have had rand Carl and
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  Speaker 3: I have become close friends, and we've had hundreds of
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  Speaker 3: hours of converse stations filmed and not filmed. So he's
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  Speaker 3: impacted my my philosophy, my thinking a lot. You know,
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  Speaker 3: it sounds so funny to say out loud, but as
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  Speaker 3: I've gotten deeper and had more conversations with more people
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  Speaker 3: about this, stuff. It's only made the weird things seem
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  Speaker 3: less weird.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that.
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  Speaker 3: I think it the biggest change for me is that
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  Speaker 3: it's far more likely to me that there's non human
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  Speaker 3: meddling in the history. And probably now now that's not
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  Speaker 3: central to my philosophy at all, but I think that
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  Speaker 3: that was the biggest change for me where or not
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  Speaker 3: not change, but just one of the things that I
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  Speaker 3: didn't I didn't expect to walk in and be like,
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  Speaker 3: oh wow, like these ancient civilizations and these ancient theories
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  Speaker 3: all point to extraterrestrials or non human influence, when almost
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  Speaker 3: all of it does, which is the thing that even
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  Speaker 3: in my early years of researching and I didn't quite glean.
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  Speaker 3: But now it just seems like at every single cour
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  Speaker 3: at every single turn, it's like, oh, well, here's here's
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  Speaker 3: another artifact that depicts some non human intelligence. Yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 3: here's these ratios encoded into another temple or into another
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  Speaker 3: thing that points to the cosmos.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, constellations, ye are aligned with this and that. Yep.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think that that's a very interesting thing.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, I don't remember who I was talking to
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  Speaker 3: about this. It wasn't too long ago on Cosmic Summit.
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  Speaker 3: But they said, in order for somebody to have built
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  Speaker 3: the pyramids, they would have had to have deep processional
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  Speaker 3: knowledge and understand how the cosmos moves over the Great Ear,
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  Speaker 3: which is like twenty five six hundred, eight hundred year years,
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  Speaker 3: twenty and forty years.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's right. Well, how would you have that knowledge?
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  Speaker 1: Now?
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  Speaker 3: Today we we could say, oh, we know light bends
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  Speaker 3: in this way, and we can look at that. Maybe
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  Speaker 3: that was true back then too, But in order to
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  Speaker 3: build some of these structures, you had to know a lot.
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  Speaker 1: You would think you had to be around watching the
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  Speaker 1: skies for twenty five years to even know that twenty
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  Speaker 1: five thousand years to even know that, right, there's something
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  Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, like that, Yeah, you know, I hear
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  Speaker 1: what he's saying. When you start saying that shit, it's like, uh,
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  Speaker 1: how did they even figure that out? Or did somebody
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  Speaker 1: tell them? You know who knows?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good question now it's worth asking.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, for sure, I think it's a huge question. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: I don't even think most people will think of like,
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  Speaker 1: even when they know the Mayan calendar, it's like, well,
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  Speaker 1: it's you know, were they alarm around that long to
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  Speaker 1: actually make the calendar. It's a little fun. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think that.
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  Speaker 3: I think that there's a practical or a very pragmatic
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  Speaker 3: implication of asking that question too, and it's.
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  Speaker 2: The way that we analyze.
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  Speaker 3: I think most people analyze time in general is most
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  Speaker 3: of the time based off like lifetimes, So like we
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  Speaker 3: quantify what progress can be made, what impact we have
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  Speaker 3: based on a lifetime, our lifetime, and right now we
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  Speaker 3: look at that as like, I don't know, eighty years,
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  Speaker 3: whatever number that we have in our mind is how
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  Speaker 3: we quantify time. I think a pragmatic downstream effect of
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  Speaker 3: researching these things, studying ancient civilizations is that it actually
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  Speaker 3: does extend your perspective of how things happen and the
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  Speaker 3: way that things happen in the timeline that they occur
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  Speaker 3: over Because if you're saying, if you're somebody who believes
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  Speaker 3: that everything's happened with humans over the last six thousand
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  Speaker 3: years or whatever, then you've got a fundamentally different way
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  Speaker 3: of thinking about time and how things will advance then
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  Speaker 3: somebody who doesn't. And I think that it has practical
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  Speaker 3: benefits to have a longer time horizon and a more
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  Speaker 3: accurate understanding of at least Earth history. It relaxes you
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  Speaker 3: a little bit, or maybe it makes you freaking out.
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  Speaker 1: It makes you freak out. Now, I don't know if,
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  Speaker 1: like maybe you maybe kind of mentioned it already or
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  Speaker 1: in some way, but before tighten network, Like, what was
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  Speaker 1: what was the mystery that first pulled you kind of
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  Speaker 1: down the rabbit hole? I mean, I know you kind
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  Speaker 1: of mentioned something about secrets, the Illuminati bloodlines, but.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that to give you a different answer
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  Speaker 2: in there. I mean I went.
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  Speaker 3: Really really deep into health research, like biology, how the
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  Speaker 3: body works, how to be very healthy, and how to
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  Speaker 3: be aligned with nature. So you know that that involved meditation,
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  Speaker 3: that involved understanding how to create alignment in yourself and
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  Speaker 3: with with the earth.
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  Speaker 2: And that was a.
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  Speaker 3: Pretty deep rabbit hole that I know still I still
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  Speaker 3: carry it today. But that also connected to ancient civilizations.
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  Speaker 1: No, I can see how that would happen. Yeah, So
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  Speaker 1: what what was it that brought up the idea of
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: tight network?
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: Oh gosh, you know, I wish there was a linear
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: path to explain that. But professional background, I started a
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: marketing agency when I was in high school and we
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: were focused well, it was a website design agency first
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: that did social media, and then I moved that into
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: another company with another co founder who I mean. That
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: was a local full service digital marketing agency called a Veil,
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: And we built that for a while, got really good
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: at marketing, and it was a self development path, but
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: just as much as building a business, and I got
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: to meet a lot of awesome business owners, and it
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: was always very clear to me that you know, me,
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: working with leaders, working with interesting people, the founders of
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: these companies is what made it better.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Like it didn't even matter if they.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: Had a weird, boring, normal product, if the person behind
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: it was inspiring, was cool to work with, was creative,
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: those were always the most electric and they always seem
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: to be the most productive style of engagements. So after
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: I exited that business, I decided to focus that like
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: Covid had just started. Then that was the beginning of
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty, and I decided that from all the self
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: development work that I had done, all of the cool
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: people we had met, all of the strange, arcane knowledge
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: that we had just gleaned by trying to build this business,
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: being curious about consciousness, being curious about manifestation stuff, and
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: I want to give that information back, you know, I
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: want to try to pour that back into the world.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: So in June of twenty twenty, I wrote an article
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: or a piece of paper with Trent Wilson, who's the
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: co founder of Titan Network, called the Conscious Entrepreneurs Toolkit,
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: and it was all about, essentially, we built a website
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: that was all the sources of everything, like all the
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: podcasts we'd listen to, all the books we had read,
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: where we get our food from, how we think about things,
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: the business implications that we have. And it was this
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: first idea that we should build a network of people
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: around the world who share a value system. And that
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: was in twenty twenty. We weren't making any money from
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: so we had to go a little more practical, which said,
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: all right, let's focus on building the a skill and
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: we went into like audience generation, content creation to be
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: able to share leaders' messages.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: And then over time, I mean, I'll.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Fast forward to like twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four,
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: we're working with all these really cool people and we're
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: still focused on the agency perspective of it versus it
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: being a network where it's like, oh, let's monetize this
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: through providing services, through helping people get more customers, for
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: helping people grow their brand. And we met a guy
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: named al Colleen A L K I L L e
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: e N. Not al Kalen, but al Colleen, and he
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: runs a company called Integrative Mastery Programs, and he essentially
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: was like, the gift of what you have is the
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: value system and the network vision, not the practical marketing
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: services you're providing. Like if I could encourage you to
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: do one thing, it would be like build that. Not
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: have that as like the backdrop of what you're building.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Have it be the primary. Yeah, And that's really where
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: we said, Okay, well, how do we switch this this
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: business model into something that is a network of different people?
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: And we leaned heavy into the ancient civilization's content creators.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: But as you see, like we have knights, templar, we
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: have ancient CIV folks, we have scientists.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: We've got.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we've got a wide range of different communicators there.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: And that was sort of the jump off point for it.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I really I really do like kind of like
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: you said, the diversity about it. I thought that's what
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: was impressive too. When I went to Cosmic Summit, so yeah.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, was there any you know what? I was
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: just thinking about boots at Cosmic Summits. There were some
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: of them there that were kind of like, I'm wondering,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: did you have like, did any of those people with
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: those people you knew? Because there was people there that
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: were kind of like had to do with like qual fear,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: like earthly stuff or and I'm just wondering if maybe
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: those were your peeps and I had no idea nobe
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, but you know what I'm talking about. Do
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: you remember any of the boots. Yeah, they were like
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: kind of like well that yeah. Yeah, So after you
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: mentioned that, I was like, oh wait, maybe he knew
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: some of them.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: Now I had met some of them at twenty twenty
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: four that we had some recurring vendors there. I cannot
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: remember the name of their businesses. Oh yeah, but some
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: really cool folks, some really cool products.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I liked.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: The healing technology is part of it. Yeah, that's what
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: he was.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: Doing, the the sound healing work.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: They also had that table you lay on.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it was like a PMF table,
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: I can't remember. I didn't get a chance to use it,
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: but I heard a lot of people say like, oh,
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: it was cool to try that out, And I'm going
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: to a conference called Tesla Tech and I guess thirteen
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: days August twelve is when it starts. And this is engineers, scientists,
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: garage tinkerers who are focused on free energy devices, zero
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: point energy devices, alternative healing technologies. And you got some
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: of the smartest people in the world who are working
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: on this stuff there.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Oh shit, I'll say that's one thing I did come
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: across too, a Cosmic Summit. People personally that were kind
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: of working on that stuff themselves that went there, they'll like,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: go see some of the speakers, and so it was
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: actually pretty cool. I mean even know the people that
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: I would even say the boots themselves, yo, not but nothing.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I thought the booth area was an experience in itself
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: at the Cosmic Summit. I mean that's that area to
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: was on and popping. It was some pretty cool people.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: Back to totally yeah, there's a lot of good people, man.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Cosmic Summit is.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: The people, oh for sure, Yeah, yeah, I totally agree.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: And then you know the speaker isn't you know again,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: he didn't pay me to say all this stuff up.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: You know, a lot of the speakers, like George was like, damn,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: you really got around with talking to everybody, and like
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: half of them came up to me like they were
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: that cool. Like Bob Greener, he came up to me
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: outside when I was smoking a cigarette with somebody, had
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: zero clue who he was, and started asking us all
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: like so, like what do you think about so and so?
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: And then like we asked him and I was like, oh,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Like I was like, I asked him something. He's like,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: I'm a speaker here. I had no idea who the
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: fuck the guy was, and he's like asking me my
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: opinion on something. I was like, you know. The Italian
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: guys too, from the Pyramid. They came up to me
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: and asked me personally, Oh what do you think? Yeah, yeah,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: And I was just like, holy shit, Like it was
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: really cool.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Robert Shock was awesome, real sweet. Him and his wife
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: were real nice. They spoke to me. Yeah, it was
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: really wild to like actually be like oo, I'm even
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: talking to these people that are up on stage.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: It's a real community.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, there's there's not a lot of divide
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: between speakers and people because like we're all the same
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: and I mean it's supposed to be.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: It's where the truth comes to party.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Man. Oh well, even look at Ashton Foes. You had
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: like a harem going at one point. No, yeah, you
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: remember that we'd be over about the party. He had
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: like his allD, like a little groupies hanging around the bus.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: He's playing his video games. I mean he was cool
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: as shit. It was fun. You probably didn't see it
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: because you we're too busy running around like a man. Yeah,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: I was. That was one thing too. I thought it
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: wasn't until honestly, it wasn't until I met you at
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Wandering Wolf's. Then when I started talking to you, I
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: even said this to George. I said, I thought he
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: was part of like some social media group, because I said,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: he really knew, like you could tell you knew what
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: the fuck you were doing when you were walking around
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: doing your filming and shit. So I figured, like that
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: was your stick. And when George started explaining it too
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: him and he was on the show. I mean, no,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: that when I spoke to you at that thing with
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Wandering Wolf, and I was like kind of like, I
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: think I asked you, like, you know, what's you know?
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: What do you actually do when you started explaining. I
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, holy shit, dude. I was like, you
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: know what, there was really impressive for your age. I
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: was like, I had no idea this kids like he's
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: behind all this ship and then it just made it
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: even funny. And knowing how I really kind of met it,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh that's a well. Yeah, I had
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: no idea. I thought it was just like some kid
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: they were passing off of trouble. Make it too, like
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: you do what this doing? I don't want to be bothered.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Probably would have been less of an asshole too. Honestly,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: we we No, it was funny. It was fun in
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: the law, but I thought it was funny. And the
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: long even thought it was funny when you were like, yo,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: this camera actually got some good footage. I feel like
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: a dick e raising it. Yeah, it was funny. No, No,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: I know, No, it's all right. Due Like I said,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: I totally understand one hundred percent, so I'm, you know,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: cool with that.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: I think it's are you going to the Austin Conference
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: the Quest for Ancient Civilizations in Austin?
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: No? I want when is that again? Is that in November?
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: It's October sixteen through eighteen?
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: I was thinking about it possibly. I know, I definitely
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: want to make obviously next Cosmic Summit, but that's not
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: for a minute. But yeah, I would I would like to.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: I enjoyed. I enjoyed their their stuff. That event. I
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: thought that was amazing as well the one that I
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: saw you at. Yeah, the last one in Arizona that
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: was off the hook, I thought too, it was awesome.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Scottsdale is a good event. Yeah, that's a Robert
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: Dakota wandering Wolf. Like you said, like they're putting the
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Quest franch and civilizations together and they're doing a pretty
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: big show in Austin. Apparently there there'll be some comedians
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: involved in it too.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: So oh really, I think they're doing a good job.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome. Nice nice. Yeah, And I'm like, you're
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: involved with all that yourself. Where you were just there,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: I thought.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: With that one.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: I helped Robert with the Sedona one and with the
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Scottsdale one as well, but not with Austin.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: We just want to help promote it right now.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: He kind of came in and showed them like this
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: is the best way to try to do these things.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Kind of.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Robert's been in the game for a while.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Man, we're really focused on the media side of this
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: right now.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: You are very You're great at that shit for real.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's sort of what our focus is, man like that.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: That's why we decided to really lean into Cosmic Summit
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: and Cosmic News and tight news and all of that
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: because I think that I mean, look, I'm an entrepreneur first,
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: so I talk about a lot of things from the
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: business perspective and like the philosophy of business, and I
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: think that it's important that the way we build this
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: community has a lot of reach with the value system
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: infused into.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: It digitally as well.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: So then when we meet, when we all come together,
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: it's it's taken care of, you know, like you have
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: a good community there. I think a lot of events
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: get corrupted because what happens is they say I'm going
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: to do an event, and we did this at Cosmic Summit.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: That's how I know we're.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: Going to do an event. We know the speakers, we
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: know some people. Then we're just going to try to
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: sell it. Boom, We're going to try to sell it,
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: try to get as many people as we possibly can,
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: which is fantastic and like it's a fun effort but
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: it's not a smart way to do it because you
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: put a bunch of risk on the table first without
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: getting insights from the people who the event is for
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: and from the people who are going to be participating
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: in the event, and then building that to then say, well,
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: how many people we're gonna have, what are we trying
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: to do? Build the line, and then open the doors
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: for the line of people who are already ready. And
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: that's really what our approach is. Now, lean into the
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: media side of this, make Cosmic Summit the digital and
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: physical meeting place for this entire cosmic deep history, consciousness,
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: arcane knowledge industry. And then I mean our tagline is
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: where the Truth comes to party, and then we'll do
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: that again next year.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Yo, for real, for really it was a really yeah yeah,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: I I mean I don't I mean, I think George
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: might have mentioned it on the show, so I don't
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: think I'm saying anything that he didn't already say. I
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: think he did say that he kind of like maybe
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: spent a little bit more money than he wanted to
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: on it. But I will say it was off the hook.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: It was well done, and I thought there was a
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: fuck ton of people there. I mean, maybe I'm wrong,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: but to me, I will say that you're that one
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: in the Wandering Wolf. And I've been to a bunch
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: of events, not so much that style, but like other
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: type of stuff. Those are the biggest things I've ever seen.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we had I mean I think we
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: had closed to four hundred.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: That's what I had guessed. I had even guessed myself.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: It was like at least four hundred.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: I thought something like that.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: And yet the.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, George has not been quiet about the failings
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: of the financial aspect of the of Cosmic Summit Online,
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: which I mean, he's just doing that in transparency to say, like, look,
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: this is a tight knit community where we're trying to
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: build this and he's just trying to welcome people into it, and.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: That that is why we are I.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: Mean, that's part of the reason why. It's a full
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: reason why that we are building it. From a audience
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: perspective first, like we're gonna throw a fucking incredible event,
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: just to be clear, like itself hasn't started that much.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: But when we do this, man, it's gonna be I
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: think it's gonna be the best event that the space
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: has ever seen. There's gonna be a lot of prioritization
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: with people having the community aspect of this. We're gonna
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: try and bring as many experiences there as well, and yeah.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: It'll be it'll be cool.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: So we're gonna make it work financially too. We're gonna
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: bring in sponsors and like, good companies, not a bunch
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: of bullshit where we're selling out to companies who don't
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: care about this. Like we have something in tight and
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: called the Brand Collective. And you met Trent Wilson probably
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: there he's walking around the GoPro on his head. But
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: Trent runs our company Partnerships department, and what he does
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: every single day is he goes out and looks for
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: companies who share a philosophy with us, we think have
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: a good value system, have a really good product or
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: really good services, and we start to build relationships with
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: them to be able to co create advertisements, sponsorships, activations
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: to one bring some capital into the whole network, but
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: also because if you have good companies with good products,
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: advertising and sponsoring and activating on good media properties and
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: good events, it creates a flywheel effect where one day
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: we're not going to sell out to Coca Cola like
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: we're looking at companies like Alimenta, which is one that
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: we just did a partnership with with Randall. I guess
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: they're recording a podcast in a couple of weeks. Maybe
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: that's a leak, but they do like blue Lotus and
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Blue Lotus supplements. We did a partnership with a gold
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: company too.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: That is bringing reliable source of storing your your wealth.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: And precious metals, and that's valuable to a lot of
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: folks in this environment too. So you know, when we
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: do this event, we're gonna have a lot of good
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: companies and a lot of good people and try to
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: bring everybody together around a big ass party.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Essentially.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: It was I thought it was awesome. I thought that
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: place you even picked was a great great spot as well.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: That bar I got to the Cory Center. That bar
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: being there I think was just key too, you know
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It was a spot for everybody to
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: meet that and uh that I remember like the outside,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: like you walked across the parking lot and you had
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: that little thing that was a smoking section.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: That was like yeah, yeah, that was half to half
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: the time I met. That's how we started talking to
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: d dunking Dan, you know, and ended up getting him
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: on the show. He kind of remembered me from that,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: so yeah, it was pretty cool.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: That's a cool spot man.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, So uh what is uh? What do
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: you I mean I'm pretty sure you're probably covered a
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: lot even with the tn T talking about this, but
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: like what other stuff like yes, sorry, yeah I said
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: it again, Oh just the vabe. I'll blame it on
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: the vapist on the Titan Network, all right. Yeah, uh,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: I kind of like I have ideas, but I don't
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: want to be the one to come out and say it.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Of like stuff that I think you got kind of
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: got planned. So you've got a bunch of things really
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: that you do kind of have plans with that. Would
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: you like going into that a little bit?
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Sure, man.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: I mean our goal with the Titan Network is too
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, keep building our infrastructure for people to be
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: able to make good content on it. So we've got
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: a series of different content creators that we already work with,
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: Randall being one of them, Tim Hogan, Scott Walter, we
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: started excuse me, we just started working with Hugh Newman.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: We work with David Hatchet, Childress, Brian Corey Dobbs. We
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: work with Ashton, Michael Donellan like and I'm missing some
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: names there, but we want to keep helping content creators
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: in this space make better and better content and help
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: them make cool ventures. So what we just did is
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: with Randall, he's been talking about a vision that he
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: has for a school for a long time.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: It's called Cosmogonia.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: It's k O s m O g O n i
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: A and it means world creation, like the Greek breaks
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: down of like Cosmo's universe or world and Gonia is
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: like to create.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: And the school is starting.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Virtually and we launched it a couple of weeks ago
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: and it's a right now. There's a sacred geometry course
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: on there. There's a big community of people and we're
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: going to keep growing that, keep bringing guest lecturers in there,
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: and you can join that and go to I think
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: it's school skool dot com slash Cosmogonia if.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: You want to look at that.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: And we're we're looking at properties to be able to
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: build an actual school for him. And that's a little
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: bit farther off, but with tightan like, that's what our
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: approach is. One we understand that so much happens with
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: attention and audience today. So we're building this network for
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: people to get more reach, get more, build a better community,
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: build better relationships with folks, and then help people like Randall,
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: people like Q people like Tim Hogan, people like Scott
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: Walter to I mean, make whatever businesses, make whatever ventures,
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: make the things that they think are going to have
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: impact in the world come true. And that's sort of
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: what our philosophy. That is what our philosophy is, and
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: that's how the business is positioned. So we got some
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: cool stuff coming up. Obviously Cosmic Someone's a big part
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: of that too. That's our event now and we're going
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: to do that next year. We're going to keep making
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: content on there, and we're going to be out in
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: Tesla Tech, you know, promoting that. Oh nice thirteen days.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: So we've been hosting a lot of speakers. There's another
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: event called Mysterious X that's a u A p UFO
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: first contact type of event. We're helping Dan Dillman out
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: with that. We're gonna go out there and check that out.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: We're just trying to trying to be involved, to elevate
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: what we can in the space.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Are you are you getting like a physical area, like
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: a physical spot too. Ah.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we might be so sorry.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: That's good man, No, it's it's probably good.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: I think actually if you do.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're we're looking at some space in Raleigh, North Carolina.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: We we might be opened up a studio, we might
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: be open to a little event space. We'll keep that
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: one mysterious, but yes we are.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: That's good man. I really wish you the best the
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: luck with that for real. I mean, but I think
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: that's an amazing idea. That is cool.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: It'd be fun.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: I think it'd be cool to have a place where,
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: like there's a center of gravity where Hey, Nick, you
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: want to come on the show.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: You're not too far, Yeah, come over here and record
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: with us.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: Oh, on Friday nights we have maybe Randall's in town,
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: maybe George and I are just sitting around hanging out.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: We want to have some new content creators, you know,
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: we want to create sort of a hub where this
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: can have a center of gravity, there can be a
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: lot of there can be stuff happening every single day.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: Same where we're doing that digitally right now. We want
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: physical in person ability to do that too.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: I think that's great. That's an awesome idea for real,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: nice something I wanted to kind of get into, I
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: guess a little bit more personal to an extent. But
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: you know, and again, I'm sure every speaker that you've
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: had a Cosmic Summit you love all of them equally.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: But yeah, but if there was any at twenty twenty five,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: was there any that really really like surprised you or
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: like you were really happy to have the well that
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know you probably didn't even get to
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: really listen to too much of it, honestly, but was
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: there any that impressed you the most, you liked the most? Hmmm?
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Is there any that impressed me the most?
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Let me look at the speaker list from twenty twenty
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: five because there was a lot and oh yeah, there
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: was a Flipo BEYONDI and Armando Ma Armando May like
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: when they did the that was just such big news
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: at the time.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that actually.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: It just kind of fell into into Cosmic Summit timing perfectly.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: So I was really excited about that. That that was awesome. Yeah.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, somebody that I really liked their content is
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: Ben van Kirkwick. Like I think he did Hawara at
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: the event too. That was like the first time I
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: was really hearing about that. I remember getting to watch
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: part of his presentation, almost all of it, and I
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: really liked his presentation. So those two are like the
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: top ones that came on the list for me. Let
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: me see who else was there. I mean, I mean,
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: everybody on the list was so good. The CRG scientists
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: are awesome if you're if you're into the Commic Research
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: Group or into younger dry stuff like Mark Mark Young
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: did a great presentation too.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: I remember him. Yeah, yeah, I interviewed him.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: Actually, I mean, everybody was great, so I don't I
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: don't want to leave anybody else out. I will say this,
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: I want to have more and more people come to
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: Cosmic summ At twenty twenty seven and create some more
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: interactive things between speakers and I would like to see
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: I would like to have some of the people who
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: were on stage last year, like this comment Research Group,
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: you know, maybe talk with some people.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Who also believe in the solar.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: That maybe the younger drives was caused by the Sun
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: versus impacts.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: And I think that'd be interesting.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: But hm hmm, yeah, could be. Actually that wasn't one
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: thing too that I even noticed how when I was there,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, you had like I would like just stumble
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: upon groups of dudes that were like, I mean they
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: were talking some real deep, intelligent crazy shit like or
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: just even like literally serious guys were debating like adults,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: like they were referencing certain papers or certain experiments, both
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: trying to argue like you know, their point, and it
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: was just like really actually cool just to sit back
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: and watch. It was like I don't know, it was
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: like maybe this is how it was or it used
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: to be, like this is how we learned and talked
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: and moved forward, you know.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Or maybe it still is and everybody spends too much
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: time on Twitter.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah exactly exactly. But I was like,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: this is it was really impressive to watch. I was, yeah, yeah,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: now you who is your favorite speaker? I will have
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: to say again Bob Greener blew me away? Him and
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: the ESHT and Forbes presentation. I actually thought was amazing
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: that three hour one I think they did on Sunday together.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: And I would have to say I actually thought, you know, again,
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: for me, I guess because of being into occultism and
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: I into a gnosticism. When Timothy Hogan and Scott Walter
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: then did their three hour presentation. Just for me, that
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: whole Sunday was like I was in heaven because there
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: was so much occultism being talked about. I was like, yeah, yeah,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: I didn't feel alone, you know. I mean, even though
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: there was other people there, and we'll even say there
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: was so many different types of people there that like,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: even though I was like kind of much more of
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: a smaller fraction of the people there in the community,
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: nobody was like, oh, this guy's a satanis like, you know,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: everybody was just cool, like we're all there hanging out.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: We all had different reasons why we were there, and
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: everybody got along. It was fucking awesome.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very interesting man. And like those two ones
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: that you just illuminated are I liked.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: There was a lot. And then at the same time,
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Randall was doing a Sacred.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Y yes, and I was like, oh, this sucks.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: That was awesome. Yeah, that one. I was really excited
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: about that. We got to do the Sacred Jometry Workshop live.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought that he did the mark a but right,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: I think maybe something like that.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like the whole thing, but it was
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: awesome just to have him do that. No.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: I thought it was awesome because I was like, no
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: matter what room you're going to, you're getting hit with
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: the cultism technically called symbolism or you know, science or whatever.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: I was like, this is fucking great, right yo. And
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: then you know, it was cool even another thing just
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: to like even show you, like, you know what kind
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: of shit ends up having it. The next day, me
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: and a group of people and Scott Walter went and
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: walked Mount Pilot together the day after and like I
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: actually took pictures and talked to and hung out with
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: Scott Walter for a few hours walking Mount Pilot. I
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: was like, what the fuck's going on right now?
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah? So you went after you went after the conference
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: was over.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was me and that guy
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: I already forgot his name. I think Jim something. That
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: was kind of the dude who they went and did
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: the ship at Mount Pilot and he was the guy
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: who wrote the book on it. Randall went, yes, yes, yeah,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: he brought us for like kind of like another thing.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: We went for a walk with him, and Scott Walter
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: came and like maybe fifteen other people. It was pretty cool.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: It's a weird it's a weird sight. I didn't get
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: a chance to go on the Pile of Mountain tour.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: I missed it on I guess we did it on
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: Friday too.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: Probably, yes, with that Native American dude.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, apparently that was awesome.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah it was yeah. Yeah, I got to film that.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: I filmed that for from my Jim whatever McKelvey. Yeah yeah,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: I got the film. Oh oh yeah, yeah, that was
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: who I was with actually that this whole fucked up story.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: I was supposed to be with him filming stuff for
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: him and then being asked to film the thing itself.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: So that's you know, but he was the reason why
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: I was there. It was actually Jim was to get
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: all the footage of Friday. We did. We did a
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: private interview with Randall Colson for about twenty minutes. You know.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: I got to film that. Yeah yeah, so I mean
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: I did have a purpose there. It's just I don't know.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: I remember that the pieces are coming back.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I don't know. Oh I know them. All
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: I know is they gave me free tickets, so I
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: was having it.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah awesome. Yeah, I enjoyed.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: I enjoyed seeing a gym. I mean, I thought That
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: was so cool because it's like, we're in Greensboro, North Carolina,
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: and we're an event that's having a It's not like
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: an ancient site excursion, but it kind of was in Greensboro,
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: North Carolina. It's not like we're in Egypt's not like
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: Peru like you travel around.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: I thought that was really cool that that I ended
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: up working out because oh, hell yeah, what.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: Are the odds of that that an hour away from
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: maybe not even an hour away from.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: About forty five minutes, forty minutes.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that there's this deep ancient history with
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: Pilot Mountain No.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: And that shit's weird. Actually when you think about it,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: look at it. It doesn't it casts a pyramid, but
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: yet there is no pyramid top. It's only basically salt crystal.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Fucking weird. Yeah, yeah, it is. There's a couple of
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: people that didn't believe it, not a couple of cults
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: is that I had even told. I was like, oh,
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: did you know about Mount Pilot And they're in a
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Raleigh area and ones in Asheville, and they were like no.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: When I told him about him, They're like, yo, we
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: got to go check that thing out. Like even even
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: they're like, m you know that might come in useful.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, see I went over there like growing up. I've
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: been over there many times. Just maybe not many times,
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: two or three times, you just I think I went
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: there once on like a school field trip or something
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: or and it wasn't like they were teachings about the history.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: It was more like, oh, this is a geological site
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: in North Carolina.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: And we were driving like the Greensboro.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: Zoo or some shit like that, and we stopped over there.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: So I'd been there before, and I had no idea.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: I had no idea until Jim mckelvey's book.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Honestly, Yeah, yeah, I even got I even got a
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: copy of his book. It's actually really interesting and even
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: with the stuff with all the Native American stuff with
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: it pretty cool, you know, you know who else. I
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: really enjoyed a cosmic something. So it was really cool.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: It was so funny. I watched him walk into the
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: door and I was like, what the fuck. I was like, Yo,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: it's Billy Carson. Yeah, and he's like the one and
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: only and he was like so cool. I was like, yo, guy,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: I got a picture with you. He's like, why do
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: you think I'm here? You know, guy even gave me
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: his vulnerable like he's actually answering. Even I was like, Yo,
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: this guy actually follows me on Instagram, like believe it
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: or not. And I'm like, this guy's got a million
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: follows and he actually followed me.
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: I was like, I mean, in my experience, Billy is
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: a man of people. Dude, I know he personally, I've
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: never had a negative interaction with Billy. I've been around
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: him many times in many different conferences and once around
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: a podcast and always been a stand up dude.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: No, yeah, no, I'd always you know, in the col community.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: I'll be honest, he can be kind of controversial because
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: the way he looks at the Emerald tablets and all that,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: this and that, But from my experience, he's Yeah, he
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: was very much hanging out with all the people who
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: was really cool. And I do think that he actually
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: like he believes he's doing the right thing. So yeah,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: I think, I.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: Mean he's got he's got definitely theories that I do
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: not agree with.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but I but I mean.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: As a person, I mean that that's all I can
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: say I've seen. I mean, he had that that bullshit
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: happen with Wes huff that. I mean that had happened
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: right before the last Cosmic Summit, so I mean people
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: were really digging into him, and you know, like ad
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: Hominem attacks against him, which I mean, my whole philosophy
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: is that.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: We're we're supposed to.
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: It's wildly unproductive, you know, like it is wildly unproductive
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: to be combative with people that are working in your community.
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: You should disagree with people one hundred. That's super important.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: But I mean there's space in my perspective for everybody
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: to to share theirs as long as I mean you're
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: doing it respectfully and you're not I mean, you're not
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: just shilling bullshit.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: No, I totally agree very much.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So now what are you?
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: What are you?
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: A lot of questions, Yeah, what what are you.
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: Looking forward to for the for your for the COOTE rejacts,
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: for the work that you're doing.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: What do you have in the pipeline?
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: Oh god, I guess more stuff that like kind of
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: like when I'm working on uh I do with the
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: with the group itself, the group people I am planning
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: on trying to get back into covering a little bit
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: more of topics together instead of guests. I mean, I
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: still have guests on the show, but at one point
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: we used to do a lot of topics together and
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: just do too sometimes. You know, I hate to say it, Uh,
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: I've gone through certain people anyway, Like you know, it's
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: not the original group, but you know, I've had to
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: get rid of certain people because you know, they're just
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: not everybody can talk or whatever. They just don't fit in.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: They might talk a little bit too much this and
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: that and kind of just run the show. But since
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: I've made that change, I've thought about trying to bring
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: it back. So I am going to try to do that.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: I think I have a good group now that I
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: think everybody can kind of respect the time and everybody's
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: opinion like adults, and we can actually start covering topics
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: together collectively. And I think when we do do that
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: it used to go really well. So I'm looking forward
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: to starting to do that again. For myself, I have
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: been kind of sticking with them lately. I've been trying
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: to do a Mechanics of Magic series where I've been
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: trying to show how I think, you know, believe it
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: or not. There is a lot of scientific studies on
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: stuff that is associated with magic. And ocult practice, especially
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: like in the last ten years, they seem to have
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: kind of been entertaining this stuff now and I've been
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: kind of trying to show that like with a lot
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: of this stuff that we use on our altars or
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: in our rituals, our sigils, you know, even places that
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: we go to, it seems to be this common denominator
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: where it's actually affecting the practitioners somehow through to the
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: nervous system, you know, their eyes, their brain, is always
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: something being done to the practitioner. And I do actually
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: think that when it comes to magic, there is a
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: side of that where you are actually supposed to be
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: affecting yourself, you know, for maybe different reasons. So I've
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: been trying to try to build that series up, and
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: I'm getting to the point to where I will really
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: be touching on I think, like you know, more of
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Sigil's taro and even ritual techniques that I'm getting to
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: that point. And and as crazy as it sounds, I
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: guess kind of try to keep I am Athelamite. I
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: don't know, if you know, do you know what Athelamite is? Yeah,
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: that's so I got to think going off right now,
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: beeping in my kitchen good. So many associated with the
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: you know kind of teachings of Alista Crowley, and he's
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: always considered like, you know, some sexual devian. I do
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: even have a series that is coming out through the
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: mechanics and magic of the effects of the orgasm on
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: the body. You know, like what actually, again, what's going
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: on with your nervous system, your eyeballs. There's go crazy
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: change going on inside of your body. So I am
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: trying to, like, in my opinion, I think I'm getting
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: close to where I'm going to be, kind of getting
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: to where I wanted with this series was I've covered
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: all these small little things and now I'm kind of
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: trying to bring some of the major components that are
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: really highly used in ritual magic ritual itself, and then
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: a few other things. And I think like by the
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: end of that series, we'll, you know, people who watch
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: it will have like a really good understanding of like
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: what is a ceremonial magician even doing to themselves when
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: they get into the ring with this stuff? You know. Interesting,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: I do think it's a lot more important, believe it
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: or not, what we're actually because just real quick for
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: a ceremonial magician. You're supposed to be having an experience
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: with God, you know, you're not. Really, It's not about
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: changing the outside. So again, if this stuff is affecting me,
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: is that part of that experience you know? Or is
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: it you know, pathway to it?
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: H What do people get wrong?
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, Alistair Crowley has like one of the most
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: oh yeah, yeah, yeah, colorful explanations around this stuff, like
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: a lot of the occult subjects do and people do.
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, what do you think people have the most
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: wrong or something that was like close to right.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: But it just got flipped the wrong way about Crowley?
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Uh one, And I listen, I will first, you know,
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: at least put it this way. I also, you know,
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: I do think I do think some of the stories
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: about him a bullshit, and I do think some of
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: them are possibly true. I do think he might have
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: been a sexual devian who knows, he may or he
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: might have done some weird shit. But besides all that,
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: besides all that, I do think, even from things that
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: I've seen myself, there was a there's a book that
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: is in the library in Austin, I think I think
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: it's in Austin, Texas. That has the vision and the
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: voice done in his handwriting and his notes before it
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: got sent to the editor and then done. And you
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: see like he does it most of his books. On
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: the left hand page he does his notes, and then
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: on the right side of the page is when he
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: actually writes what he's writing, you know, and then that's
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: what's you know, part of the book. You start seeing jamatria.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: You see him like using Rose a lot, which he
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: has used as his girlfriend's name before you know he was,
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: you know, with the woman named Rose. He talks about
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: the Rose, but you see him even doing the jamachi
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: on that. So at this point, just from that example,
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: tons and tons of pages of him doing numerical values
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: to put words into his paragraphs and in his stuff,
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: it's ciphered. So I do think some of his more
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: weirder shit possibly might be ciphered or heavily occulted. Because
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: I'll even be honest, at first, when I first saw
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: some of it was weirdert shit, I just thought it
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: was like twisted and stupid. You're not gonna look at it.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: I think that's actually a way like kind of like
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: a way of like throwing you off. You're really gonna
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: have to be the one who's like willing to look
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: everywhere to try to figure it out. I think, like,
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: I think he's really like kind of like pushing you
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: to the limits to see how fault you'll go to
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: really understand what he was saying. Very interesting. Yeah, yeah, no,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of some of this sexual stuff.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: I do think. Yes, there is obviously shit with sex magic,
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: but I think to an extent it may also why
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: I wanted to cover what goes on inside the body
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: during an orgasm, and I have covered plenty of times
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: on the show how the eyeball works and a lot
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: of weird shit with the eye. I do think sex
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: magic might actually be kind of like a representation of
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: what's going on inside your eyeball when you go when
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: you have a magical experience across the abyss.
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: Interesting, Okay, I mean, as you're see, I've never really
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: delved that much into this, so.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: Oh no, this is all what I'm meant to you. Yeah,
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: And luckily, because like I said, the way science has
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: been going, I guess maybe they're entertaining more occult stuff.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: There's actually a lot of shit that you can prove
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: like scientifically that's like some of these ideas, of these
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: theories may not to be too far off.
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's how it goes right there. I don't
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: know a damn thing about sex magic.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: Oh no, I mean, listen, I've neither do I except
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: for stuff I've read about. You know, I have busted
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: a few nuts to a sigil here and there, but
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: that's about it. You know.
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: He's like, I wasn't signing up for this happening in
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: the body anyways, Like totally. I mean, it's there's a
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: there's a creation process that's happening for in some sense,
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: at least on the masculine side of it, and then
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: I mean on the feminine side of it.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: It's the inverse. So something incredible happening.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: No, for sure, for sure, No, I agree, yeah, but
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: kind of like that's what I got going on. I
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: got Oh, I am starting to do a kind of
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: a history of the biography of the Pentagram that's gonna
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: be probably like a twenty parts series, but they'll be
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: like our hour episodes, a little bit shorter, but kind
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: of like taking it through. It's like whole life from
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: like you know, the earliest you know, I guess theory
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: that earliest, earliest opinions and where it came from, because
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: people will still argue that, but trying to trace it
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: to like, you know, through everyone like Pythagorasts, how even
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: Plato kind of even touched on it, you know, everybody,
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: and how it got to where it is now. Yeah,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: I'm doing that, and I think that would be pretty interesting.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of proud of that one. A little bit
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: more educational, yeah, yeah, I try to get a little
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: bit more there is and I'm not knocking it. There's
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: a lot of people out there that are way better
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: if they want to start to talk about ritual technique.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: And there's a lot of people out there that are
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: into the woo woo that I'm not into. Not too
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: many people with to kind of get like a little
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: bit more academic or scientific with it. So I kind
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: of picked that lane, you know. Cool. Yeah, it's a
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: little bit different. I found my way to fit in,
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, And it doesn't interest me more honestly
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: because of experiences that I've had with magic. You know,
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: I've claimed I do think I crossed the Abyss and
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: there was just some weird shit that happened with my
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: body or just my experience has led me to even
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: start looking at science actually because it's the only shit
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: that can make any sense.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah that's why. I mean, that's even how I
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: even started thinking about the eyeballs in the brain. You
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: start seeing like, you know, cult symbols like this, and
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: it's like, that's the same way the light reflects off
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: of your lens. You know NASA one time when they
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: did something, but they were using that kind of light
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: reflection in the Hubble telescope, same exact design that's on
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: my own that Giodano Bruno created, you know that Alista
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: Crowley then took over and used as a symbol for
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: the Lina. Same shit. It's very interesting, very weird. Even
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: the sigil I try to say it's you know, good thing,
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: bad thing, whatever. Even the sigual lucifer is very very
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: close to how your eye would be reflecting light. I
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: think if it's either the people's all the way open
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: or all the way closed. But it's very similar to
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: the same way light reflects off your lens.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: It's kind of creepy, it is kind of interesting.
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well keep doing what you're doing, man, doing good work.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying. Yeah, I it interests me. So if
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: the people listen and enjoy it, it's a win win,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, And like I've even said, honestly, with
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: some stuff like even when i've you know, done stuff
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: on brain waves and sleep paralysis and the eyeball, even
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: if it's you don't think it's really tying into the occult.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: You kind of learn something regardless. Now you know how
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: your eyeball works. Half the people walking around don't even
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: know how the fucking eyeballs work. Think about that. I mean,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: it really thinks about how their eyeballs in their brain
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: even works. I mean, real quick, sunlight goes into our eyeballs.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: You may not know this, and I didn't until someone
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: told me a couple of years ago. When it hits
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: your optic nerve, it gets transformed into electricity. I had
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: no idea. So basically, the back of our eyeballs like
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: pumping electricity into our brain, and that's what's going through
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: a whole nervous system. It's weird if you think about it. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: Then the rest goes through your skin and there's a
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: chemical explosion going off inside of you. They don't even
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: realize that it's converting the sun into electricity. It's just
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: fucking weird when you think about how all that works.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: Oh well, that's a big part of health study.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: It's too, like the electron flow in your body, the
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: flow of electricity in your body. If you have like
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: let's just call it kinks, why are kinked in your body?
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: And like posture is a part of this.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: Die posture is a really good example of this because
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: I mean you hear this a lot, and it's probably
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: common in rituals too, but like in meditation, it is
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: as well, you want your spine to be locked into place,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: you want it to be parallel with the electromagnetic field
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: of the earth or whatever you're aligning with, and it.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: Allows electricity to flow.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: That that is exactly what it is, allows energy to
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: flow more and more.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: So yeah, see that's even another thing when it comes
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: to ceremonial magic or like you know, occultists. Even Crawley
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: was another one who pushed it heavily. Yoga. You know
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: a lot of people are into like some sort of
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: bodily thing and I do think you know, like working
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: your muscles. It's just it's just a suggestion, a high
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: suggestion to get physically fit in some way, you don't
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: have to get jacked up, but like get your body
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: move and get it in shape, you know, do yoga,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: do stretches, du poses. And I've always thought the same
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: thing that you were saying right there. It's like you
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: got to take out the crinks and you got to
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: make sure everything's like connected and that you're firing right,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: because I think that's all important actually with your body
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: and too.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not a cult at all.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, yeah for real, No, you're actually yeah
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: exactly that could be proven with science too. So yeah, nice,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: thank you very much.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know if is there anything else you wanted
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: to ask me, because we're at an hour and I
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: know you kind of only had a certain amount of time,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: so I don't want to keep you a hostage too long.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: No, man, I got to run, but I.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: Hell, yeah, it was great to hang out you again. Yeah,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, and I'm definitely sure if it's not
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: before Cosmic, somebody will be.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: Seeing you again there anyway, So yeah, I'm sure.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be great. Please let everybody know, promote anything
• 1:02:49
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• 1:02:52
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• 1:02:53
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• 1:02:57
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• 1:03:00
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• 1:03:05
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• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: want to see where we make the most content, that
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: is on Cosmic Summits page. So we do pretty much
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: daily long form videos, podcasts, interviews, focus pieces every day
• 1:03:21
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• 1:03:25
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• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: And we are.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: About to launch a new website that is Cosmicnewsdaily dot
• 1:03:34
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• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: different substack pages and article pages where we'll be doing
• 1:03:42
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• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: on there. So that's the best place to find me
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: to find what we're doing at the Titan Network.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: That's great, man. That sounds like a lot of stuff
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: going on. So I know some people that listen to
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: my stuff also like very big to like listening to others. Uh,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: you know, they're very big into listening to the podcasts.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: Go check it out. It sounds like they got shipped
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: for you every day, man, you know, and we did.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: That's awesome. That's awesome, very nice man. I really again,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: I wish you the best of luck. I do think,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: you know. When I was at Cosmic Summit, you know again,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: that was kind of my first exposure to something like that,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: but I did feel like I was like, yoh, I
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: really do feel like I'm a part of something that's
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: like this is going to be bigger than I think
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: people think, you know, and it's I do think you.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know, you might got something pretty big in
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: your hands. I might actually make a difference one day.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: I have so, and I wish you the best of
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: luck with that, dude, I really do think you very much.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: You know, you step you might have stepped in ship,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: you know, so that's good luck. Yeah, exactly exactly so
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: for real, h thank you everybody who jumped in the chat.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: That's what's up, Tarra. Thank you for the super chat there.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: I appreciate that. And uh yeah, until the next one, everybody,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: be well later.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: Thank you very much.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: Hell yeah,