Latest / The Epstein Chronicles / Epstein Survivors Praise House Panel After Leon Black Contempt Vote (9/18/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the
- 0:03Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. Now that Congress has held Leon Black in
- 0:07Speaker 1: contempt for his nonsense when it comes to Epstein and
- 0:10Speaker 1: refusing to hand over the documents that they requested, Epstein's
- 0:14Speaker 1: survivors are coming out and praising Congress for their work.
- 0:20Speaker 1: And that's certainly a change from what we're used to hearing.
- 0:24Speaker 1: And I'll get on board with that. As much as
- 0:26Speaker 1: I've been critical of Congress and their work... This is
- 0:29Speaker 1: a good job. This is what they should be doing.
- 0:32Speaker 1: And it shouldn't just be Leon Black that's held accountable,
- 0:34Speaker 1: by the way. Because just about every single person that's
- 0:37Speaker 1: gotten up there and talked to that committee has told
- 0:40Speaker 1: them lies. So I would like to see more accountability.
- 0:43Speaker 1: And I'd like to see more of those stories tested
- 0:46Speaker 1: rigorously against the truth. And that's what Congress should be doing.
- 0:52Speaker 1: And considering they're not doing it with the vast majority
- 0:54Speaker 1: of these people, that's why I'm so critical. But When
- 0:58Speaker 1: someone does something good, we have to offer them praise
- 1:01Speaker 1: as well. And I think this is something that we
- 1:04Speaker 1: should be offering Congress praise for, especially considering that it
- 1:07Speaker 1: went to the full vote and it was uncontested. So
- 1:10Speaker 1: the whole entire House decided that this is not a
- 1:13Speaker 1: fight they want to have. And instead, they decided to
- 1:17Speaker 1: refer Leon Black to the Justice Department. So today we
- 1:21Speaker 1: have an article from The Guardian and the headline, Epstein
- 1:24Speaker 1: Survivors Praise House Panel Over Leon Black Contempt Vote. This
- 1:29Speaker 1: article was authored by Anna Betts. More than a dozen
- 1:33Speaker 1: survivors of Jeffrey Epstein's abuse praise the House Oversight Committee
- 1:37Speaker 1: for unanimously voting to recommend that billionaire investor Leon Black
- 1:42Speaker 1: be held in contempt for refusing to comply with subpoenas
- 1:45Speaker 1: by the panel seeking his testimony and non-disclosure agreements as
- 1:49Speaker 1: part of its investigation into Epstein. And look, everybody wants
- 1:53Speaker 1: this to be so political, and unfortunately, the nature of
- 1:57Speaker 1: it is. But that doesn't mean we have to pick sides.
- 2:00Speaker 1: Can't we just look at this neutral and say, hey, look,
- 2:03Speaker 1: this side's being shitty or that side's being shitty and
- 2:06Speaker 1: they have to be called out. Why do we have
- 2:08Speaker 1: to retreat into bunkers for every single topic? Now, look,
- 2:12Speaker 1: I understand certain issues, right? I'm not naive. You want
- 2:16Speaker 1: to talk about abortion, this, that, the other thing. Cool.
- 2:18Speaker 1: I get it. People are going to retreat into bunkers.
- 2:21Speaker 1: But this issue, how the fuck are we not coming
- 2:23Speaker 1: together as one group? to make sure people like Leon
- 2:27Speaker 1: Black are held accountable for whatever he's up to. And
- 2:30Speaker 1: I don't just mean the allegations about abuse, but what
- 2:33Speaker 1: about everything else? If you and I have to spend
- 2:36Speaker 1: every day worried about the government coming after us if
- 2:39Speaker 1: we don't do what they tell us to do, why
- 2:42Speaker 1: should Leon Black be able to do whatever he wants
- 2:44Speaker 1: to do? Because he has more money than me? Well,
- 2:46Speaker 1: fuck that, fuck them, and fuck anybody who believes that.
- 2:50Speaker 1: Because at this point, it's the people versus the predators.
- 2:54Speaker 1: And when I say predators... I mean predators. We commend
- 2:59Speaker 1: Chairman Comer for showing real resolve and pursuing accountability in
- 3:02Speaker 1: the Epstein investigation, the survivors said in a statement. They
- 3:06Speaker 1: said that the 41-0 vote sends a clear message that
- 3:09Speaker 1: wealth and influence do not put anyone beyond the reach
- 3:13Speaker 1: of congressional oversight. Well, I wish that was really true, right?
- 3:16Speaker 1: I wish that Congress would do more. But this is
- 3:20Speaker 1: certainly a step in the right direction, so I'm not
- 3:22Speaker 1: going to rain on the parade. I think that We
- 3:26Speaker 1: need to continue doing things like this, and I think
- 3:29Speaker 1: more people need to be referred to the DOJ. And
- 3:33Speaker 1: I think one of those people for sure, or two
- 3:35Speaker 1: of those people, are in Daikin Con. Without a doubt.
- 3:40Speaker 1: And also, how come we haven't heard from Nadia Marcinkova
- 3:43Speaker 1: or Adriana Ross? Probably a decent idea to get them
- 3:47Speaker 1: up onto the old chair and have a conversation with them.
- 3:52Speaker 1: You would think they'd know a little bit about what
- 3:53Speaker 1: went on. How about Bella Klein? How about Harry Beller?
- 4:01Speaker 1: Survivors have fought for years to bring the truth about
- 4:04Speaker 1: Epstein's network into the open and have helped create this
- 4:06Speaker 1: moment of accountability, they added. Congress now has an opportunity
- 4:10Speaker 1: to build on that work by following the investigative leads
- 4:14Speaker 1: contained in the Epstein files wherever they go and demanding
- 4:18Speaker 1: answers from the powerful people connected to them. That is
- 4:21Speaker 1: like the basic floor-level communication amount of work that should
- 4:26Speaker 1: be done. But it's never really been done. And that's
- 4:31Speaker 1: my biggest problem. If this was a robust investigation from
- 4:34Speaker 1: the jump and we had the documentation backing that up,
- 4:38Speaker 1: I wouldn't have even half as much to say. But
- 4:42Speaker 1: all the people that were involved, all the people that
- 4:44Speaker 1: were accused, none of them were even talked to. So
- 4:48Speaker 1: you have the FBI and the DOJ just going after
- 4:51Speaker 1: Epstein and Maxwell when they know that there's all these
- 4:54Speaker 1: other threads Ask yourself why. And if you're somebody that
- 4:58Speaker 1: wants to look for a cover-up or a conspiracy, this
- 5:01Speaker 1: is it. You don't need Egyptian planes. You don't need Sasquatches.
- 5:05Speaker 1: You don't need the flat Earth. What you need is
- 5:08Speaker 1: to take a look at the Epstein files. The vote
- 5:11Speaker 1: on Tuesday marked the latest escalation in the dispute between
- 5:14Speaker 1: the committee and Black, whose name came up repeatedly in
- 5:18Speaker 1: the Epstein files and who, as reported by the New
- 5:20Speaker 1: York Times, paid Epstein a total of $ 170 million. for
- 5:25Speaker 1: what he described as tax estate planning services from 2013
- 5:28Speaker 1: to 2017. The contempt resolution now goes to the Full
- 5:33Speaker 1: House for consideration if Speaker Mike Johnson permits a vote,
- 5:38Speaker 1: and we know that it passed, okay? The Full House,
- 5:42Speaker 1: every single member, voted for it. Black has repeatedly denied
- 5:47Speaker 1: any wrongdoing and said he had no knowledge of Epstein's
- 5:49Speaker 1: criminal activities. Sure, sure, sure. No problem. We believe you.
- 5:53Speaker 1: You had no idea, Mr. Leon Black. No clue what
- 5:56Speaker 1: your buddy Epstein was up to, after he was already
- 6:00Speaker 1: a sexual offender. Okay, sure. He voluntarily appeared before the
- 6:05Speaker 1: committee for a transcribed interview in June, but the session
- 6:09Speaker 1: ended abruptly after lawmakers from both parties said that Black
- 6:13Speaker 1: refused to answer questions about the NDAs. The committee, chaired
- 6:17Speaker 1: by a Republican representative, James Comer, then issued two subpoenas,
- 6:21Speaker 1: one demanding that Black produce all NDAs, to which he
- 6:25Speaker 1: is a party, and another requiring him to appear before
- 6:28Speaker 1: the committee again for a deposition. Well, how'd that work out?
- 6:34Speaker 1: Leon Black did what Leon Black always does, and that
- 6:37Speaker 1: is whatever he wants. And when you have that kind
- 6:41Speaker 1: of money, you can go and buy billions of dollars
- 6:43Speaker 1: of artwork. You really think you care what the Senate
- 6:46Speaker 1: has to say to you? This man will drag this
- 6:48Speaker 1: shit out until the cows come home. Now, I really
- 6:52Speaker 1: hope that Congress is ready to get into the backyard
- 6:55Speaker 1: and brawl with this dude like Kimbo Slice. No half-stepping,
- 6:59Speaker 1: no half-measures, full-on warfare. The full power of the United
- 7:05Speaker 1: States government. That's what I want to see used against
- 7:08Speaker 1: Leon Black, just like they do against drug dealers or
- 7:12Speaker 1: people they say are engaging in, you know, illegal gambling,
- 7:15Speaker 1: because I've seen that firsthand. And they have no remorse,
- 7:19Speaker 1: they have no shame, and they will ruin your life.
- 7:22Speaker 1: But Leon Black, I guess, different story. Maybe my loved
- 7:26Speaker 1: one should have been able to afford Susan Estrich as
- 7:28Speaker 1: an attorney. Black did not appear for his scheduled September
- 7:33Speaker 1: 3rd deposition and did not produce all of the NDAs
- 7:36Speaker 1: sought by the committee. He instead sued Comer and the committee,
- 7:40Speaker 1: arguing that the subpoenas were invalid and exceeded the committee's
- 7:43Speaker 1: delegated authority in seeking private information that bears no legitimate
- 7:47Speaker 1: connection to its legislative purpose. In other words, go get fucked.
- 7:52Speaker 1: And that's what that means, okay? Translation, that's what that means.
- 7:56Speaker 1: He also argued that the subpoenas would expose women who
- 7:59Speaker 1: value their privacy, who have no known or public connection
- 8:02Speaker 1: to Epstein. Oh, these women, man, you know, he's really
- 8:05Speaker 1: protecting them. As I said in a previous episode, a
- 8:08Speaker 1: real champion of the women. Who the fuck is believing
- 8:11Speaker 1: that shit? Leon Black, this dude's out here cheating on
- 8:14Speaker 1: his wife while she's sick right across the street. Hell
- 8:19Speaker 1: of a guy, that Leon Black, a real feminist. Attorneys
- 8:22Speaker 1: representing Black had asked for a postponement of the committee's
- 8:25Speaker 1: markup earlier on Tuesday and described it as a complete abomination. No,
- 8:30Speaker 1: that's your client's behavior. That's a complete abomination, okay? And
- 8:35Speaker 1: not just his behavior with Epstein, but in general. Apollo Global,
- 8:39Speaker 1: one of the worst fucking companies in the history of
- 8:40Speaker 1: the world. What they did to Caesar's Palace is absolutely disgusting.
- 8:47Speaker 1: And now they got their dirty ass hands all over
- 8:50Speaker 1: the Venetian Sands Corporation. And I haven't stepped one foot
- 8:53Speaker 1: inside of that place since Apollo took over. And I
- 8:57Speaker 1: have no plans on going back. I won't spend any
- 9:00Speaker 1: of my money with Apollo Global. I don't just talk
- 9:02Speaker 1: the talk. I walk the walk. And if you think
- 9:06Speaker 1: I'm giving any money to these people, you got another
- 9:08Speaker 1: thing coming. The lawyers also described the subpoenas as illegitimate, illegal,
- 9:15Speaker 1: and a textbook abuse of power designed to bully and
- 9:18Speaker 1: destroy legal protections of private citizens. and reiterated that Black
- 9:23Speaker 1: never abused a woman, was never blackmailed by Epstein, and
- 9:26Speaker 1: had no knowledge of any of Epstein's heinous conduct. On Wednesday,
- 9:30Speaker 1: a day after the vote, Comer announced the introduction of
- 9:34Speaker 1: the Survivors Voice Protection Act legislation, his office said, would
- 9:38Speaker 1: ensure survivors can speak freely about sexual abuse, even if
- 9:42Speaker 1: they signed a nondisclosure agreement. And again, good on James Comer.
- 9:48Speaker 1: As much as I break his chops, this is a
- 9:50Speaker 1: good move. And it's a move in the right direction.
- 9:54Speaker 1: And I think that everybody should back it. The legislation
- 10:01Speaker 1: is a result of the Oversight Committee's review of the
- 10:03Speaker 1: federal investigation into Epstein and Maxwell's crimes. His office added,
- 10:08Speaker 1: In a statement on Wednesday, Comer said, the federal government
- 10:11Speaker 1: for decades failed the survivors of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine
- 10:15Speaker 1: Maxwell's crimes. We sadly cannot undo the harm and abuse
- 10:18Speaker 1: inflicted upon these women, However, we have an obligation to
- 10:22Speaker 1: take action to reform our laws to ensure survivors are
- 10:25Speaker 1: protected and abusers can be held accountable. Better late than never.
- 10:30Speaker 1: Better late than never. And I think it's time that
- 10:34Speaker 1: we really have something like this on the books. Republican
- 10:38Speaker 1: Representatives Nancy Mace, Virginia Fox, Lauren Boebert, and Ana Paulina
- 10:42Speaker 1: Luna joined the bill as original co-sponsors. The committee says
- 10:47Speaker 1: that it's conducted in 19 depositions and transcribed interviews thus
- 10:51Speaker 1: far as part of its review of the federal government's
- 10:53Speaker 1: investigation of Epstein and Maxwell, and that it has released
- 10:57Speaker 1: around 65,000 pages of documents from the Epstein estate, U.S.
- 11:02Speaker 1: Department of Justice, and interview transcripts, and also obtained Epstein's
- 11:07Speaker 1: bank records. Well, can we follow the money to the destination, please?
- 11:12Speaker 1: You mean to tell me there was no financial malfeasance?
- 11:14Speaker 1: Give me a break already. Additionally, in June, Comer referred
- 11:19Speaker 1: two men to the Department of Justice for further investigation
- 11:22Speaker 1: after Sarah Kellen, a former assistant of Epstein's, and co-conspirator
- 11:26Speaker 1: by the way, alleged that she was sexually assaulted by
- 11:29Speaker 1: them in the years that she worked for Epstein. Neither
- 11:33Speaker 1: men have been charged with a crime related to Epstein
- 11:36Speaker 1: and both have denied any wrongdoing and the allegations against them. Oh,
- 11:41Speaker 1: they should be charged. Let's see that robust investigation I
- 11:45Speaker 1: was talking about, and let's get cracking. Over the summer,
- 11:49Speaker 1: the Guardian asked the DOJ for an update on this,
- 11:52Speaker 1: to which a DOJ spokesperson told the Guardian that they
- 11:56Speaker 1: had forwarded the letter from Comer about the two individuals
- 11:59Speaker 1: to the FBI. If, during the course of their review,
- 12:03Speaker 1: FBI encounters of evidence of a federal crime, they will
- 12:06Speaker 1: investigate that matter, a DOJ spokesperson told the Guardian in July.
- 12:11Speaker 1: When asked for an update in late August, the DOJ
- 12:13Speaker 1: spokesperson said the July statement still stands. The FBI did
- 12:17Speaker 1: not respond to multiple requests for comment from the Guardian
- 12:21Speaker 1: this month about the matter. And if it's an open investigation,
- 12:25Speaker 1: they're not going to. But I just have my doubts
- 12:27Speaker 1: that they're doing the right thing. And that's because their
- 12:30Speaker 1: behavior tells us they don't care. So there has to
- 12:33Speaker 1: be some kind of checks and balances here. And maybe
- 12:36Speaker 1: Congress can ask for an update about what's going on
- 12:39Speaker 1: with their referrals. Because you know the DOJ and the
- 12:42Speaker 1: FBI They're not going to give it up willingly. So
- 12:45Speaker 1: it's going to be a battle. And hopefully Congress is
- 12:48Speaker 1: up for it. As for us, well, we're going to
- 12:51Speaker 1: continue swimming through this muck looking for the clarity. And
- 12:54Speaker 1: when we have something else to add to this story,
- 12:56Speaker 1: we'll get that added to the catalog as well. All
- 13:00Speaker 1: the information that goes with this episode can be found
- 13:03Speaker 1: in the description box.