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Why Nurses Are Becoming Entrepreneurs · Chatting with The Experts with Paula Okonneh

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  Hello, and welcome to another episode of Chatting with the Experts Show, where I
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  speak with fabulous women from Africa, from the Caribbean, and in the diaspora.
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  They have one thing in common with me, which is it's all
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  about educating, encouraging, and empowering women globally.
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  Today our topic is Why Nurses Are Moving Towards Business, and my guest who will
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  join me in a second says, because you are a nurse, it doesn't mean that you
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  have to stay at the bedside forever.
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  She should know this because she's a, she is a trained nurse and
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  she's an also a nurse career coach.
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  She's a keynote speaker, a podcaster, and lots more.
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  There's so much to say about her, but this is what I'm gonna do.
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  I'm gonna let her join me.
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  And so with that, welcome Farah Laurent to Chatting with the Experts.
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  Hi, I'm so excited to be here.
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  Thank you so much for having me.
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  Can't wait to dive into this conversation.
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  Thank you.
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  Yeah.
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  You said because you're a nurse or someone is trained as a nurse doesn't mean you
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  have to stay at the bedside forever.
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  And you are saying that there are lots of options beside the bedside.
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  Let's talk about that.
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  Yes, yes, yes.
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  So, you know, traditionally I think nursing, not even just within the
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  US or Canada, 'cause I started my career in Canada, I think globally.
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  The perception of nurses, when you see nurses, typically in the media or
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  just the perception of nurses is they typically work in the hospitals, right?
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  And this is what I want nurses to know and people that wanna get into nursing.
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  There's much more to nursing than just bedside nursing, right?
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  So that's, you know, part of my journey is what.
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  Led me to want to educate the public and also educate future nurses about
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  their opportunities in nursing.
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  So when I started in Canada, I had a clinical instructor.
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  You know, very traditional old school.
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  And when I, you know, she asked me, Farah, what type of nurse do you wanna be?
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  And I said, I wanna be an emergency nurse because I love all the stuff, the action.
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  And she literally laughed in my face and was...
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  oh no.
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  Yeah.
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  And she said, Farah, you are too unorganized.
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  You'll never be an emergency nurse.
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  You should go to medical surgical, which is typically
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  where they tell new nurses to go.
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  So in my head for a moment, I was like, wow, like how could she say that?
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  Like she's trying to crush my dream.
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  So of course.
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  I didn't listen to that, and in my head I was like, wow, okay.
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  Watch me lady.
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  I will become an emergency nurse.
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  And that was always my tenacity in my spirit.
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  I'm like, you know, you can't tell me what I can and can't do even as a student.
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  And that's where it all started.
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  So not only did I secure an emergency position, I got two offers as a
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  nursing student before I even passed my boards, my licensing boards in Canada.
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  And then I started working in the ER two days after graduation.
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  Wow.
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  When all my friends were still just looking and applying.
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  I was already working in the ER and this has kind of been the journey.
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  And why I promised myself I would later become an educator and be a
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  cool, fun educator to educate the next generation and inspire them.
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  Yeah.
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  I love that.
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  The cool, fun educator.
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  Ooh, those three words, cool, fun, or two words.
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  Sometimes people don't associate that with nursing, but you
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  are obviously the outlier.
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  You're showing them and letting people know it can be done.
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  Yes, yes, yes.
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  And you know, when I went into the ER, I worked in Canada for five years,
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  left Canada and moved to New York City.
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  I was like, I wanna go to a big city.
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  So went to New York City.
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  That was probably one of the best decisions I ever made.
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  Because it took me out of my comfort zone, it made me grow in different
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  ways and it really opened up my eyes to the opportunities not only just
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  in nursing but beyond, you know?
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  And that's when my mind started looking at different options.
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  Yeah.
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  Alright, so listening to you and having talked with you off camera, I know you're
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  very much into nurse entrepreneurship.
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  Yeah.
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  What is that and why should people consider it?
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  Yeah, so you know, going along in my career, I always
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  did what was expected, right?
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  Go to school, get the next degree.
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  You know, I thought I would be in the ER for, you know, I stayed in
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  the ER for 13 years, then I wanted to go into education, so I got
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  the next degree, education degree.
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  It took me quite some time after I graduated from my Masters
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  to get into education 'cause there was a lot of politics.
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  It was very difficult navigating the job search, even though I
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  was extremely qualified on paper.
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  I realized quickly.
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  You know, if you didn't play the game, you know, if they didn't
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  really take a liking to you, it was very hard for you to get promoted.
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  So, you know, I moved around, finally got the opportunity to be
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  an educator, moved along the ranks to become a leader in education.
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  So I became a nurse educator.
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  Then, I worked for NYU as a clinical instructor, which I love nursing students.
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  Then fast forward became the director of education and that was my dream job.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  And that's when I realized, wow, there's a lot of challenges.
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  The higher up you go in leadership and the impact you wanna make
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  is not as easy as it seems.
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  So there is a lot of roadblocks.
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  From an advocacy point when I would try to advocate, I was met with a lot of
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  resistance and I'm someone who loves to... loves to talk in the C-Suites.
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  You know, I would be the one, Hey, I have an idea.
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  I don't think we should do this.
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  This is not safe.
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  So I felt like my advocacy didn't make me that popular, right?
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  A lot of times I had to stand alone and stand firm, and that eventually
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  actually led to me getting laid off three times in five years.
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  Oh no.
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  So it's almost like entrepreneurship... I was pushed into entrepreneurship.
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  So you ask the question, what is entrepreneurship?
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  So to me, it's innovation and it's constantly looking at the job market to
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  see what is the gap, what is the problem that really fires you up to say, Hey,
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  I have a solution and I can bring this forth and create something out of nothing.
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  And that to me is entrepreneurship is really being business savvy.
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  So what I saw is I always mentored new nurses and they kept coming to me for
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  interview help and coming to me for the same issues that I had as a new nurse.
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  So I was mentoring them, obviously for free and then I said, well, I could
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  actually turn this into a business model.
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  And that's where I started with the nurse career coach.
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  I didn't have that 20 years ago.
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  No one heard of a nurse career coach, and that's what I started doing.
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  Was taking these nurses, helping them land six-figure roles right outta
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  school, getting into specialty areas that they're, you know, they keep being told
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  that they can't get into by recruiters.
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  Almost like helping my younger self... you know, help pave the way for
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  them and facilitating this for them.
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  Yeah.
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  But it was a lot of learning along the way.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Yeah.
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  Talking about a lot of learning, because you are actually Dr.
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  Farah Laurent, not just Farah.
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  So you didn't stop at getting your Masters, you went
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  on to get your doctorate.
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  Yes.
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  Yes.
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  And it's funny because everyone thought I was crazy.
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  I was in school for my doctorate working full-time as a director.
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  My daughter had just turned a few months old and my son was four.
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  And as I was seeing these challenges in the workplace, I thought, wow, you
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  know, I got all these degrees, I got all these certifications, I'm doing the right
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  things, but there's no job security, right as you climb up the ladder.
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  So that's when I said, you know.
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  I don't want to have to depend on one employer anymore and let
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  it like be uncertain, so let me build something of my own.
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  So I started creating content to help these new nurses.
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  I started building my brand, right, my personal brand, and then I
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  started really diving into business, business skills so that I could
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  learn the fundamentals of what, you know, how do you grow a business?
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  Even down to the terminology, because it's very different,
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  obviously, than the nursing industry.
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  And that's when I was obsessed, you know,
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  Say obsessed.
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  Obsessed with business because you know people, you know, traditional.
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  Traditionally, they're like, oh, you have young kids, like, I don't
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  know, you're going to school and you're trying to start a business.
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  But as you know, right, when you have kids, I feel like you have a
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  different drive that really kicks in.
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  And to me, I was just of being told what to do and didn't
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  wanna work for anybody anymore.
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  So there's a trend here.
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  Don't tell Farah what to do.
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  Tell her if you want to get her started, tell her not to do it
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  and she'll show you that she can.
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  Yes, yes.
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  I think that's a big drive.
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  And I find a lot of critical care nurses like ICU nurses and emergency
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  nurses, all nurses, but for some reason.
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  Those two type of nurses because we're very adaptable.
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  You know, we deal with life or death, so we're really comfortable under pressure.
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  So I think these types of nurses do really well in business
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  because we're so adaptable.
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  And if you think about all the nursing skills, people skills, problem solving,
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  they're all transferrable to business.
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  And this is why I think so many nurses are now just taking their
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  skills and transferring it over to starting their own businesses.
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  I love that.
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  Taking what you are being trained for and then applying it, because business really
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  is about seeing a problem and solving it.
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  Yeah.
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  Problem solving.
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  Looking to see, okay, what is it that the people need?
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  I'm giving it to them.
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  And you saw that through nursing.
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  You know, as you mentioned earlier on, you had a lot of young nurses or
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  student nurses coming to you and asking you like how to go about, you know,
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  certain things, passing the exams or...
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  mm-hmm.
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  Whatever might have been.
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  And you saw a business opportunity there.
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  Yeah.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Yeah.
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  And you know, a lot of nurses are also doing you know, different
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  options in business or consulting.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  And coaching because those are easy businesses to start because
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  they're service-based business.
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  There's not a lot of overhead to start.
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  A lot of nurses or just people in general have misconceptions about business.
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  They think that you need a massive amount of money to start a business,
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  but that's not necessarily true.
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  Literally it could just take a couple hundred dollars for you
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  to register your business, right?
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  And then also from the clinical side, a lot of nurse practitioners
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  are starting their own private practices, telehealth practices, which
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  is helping with primary care, which is, you know, a big issue in the US.
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  And then they're also going the aesthetic route.
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  There's a lot of med spas.
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  A lot of these IV hydration businesses which is very a little bit more complex
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  because some states require you to have a physician and, you know, so there's
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  a lot of legal aspects to business as well if you do wanna start a business.
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  But for me, I think the easiest way is to do consulting, coaching, or
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  some type of education where you could just provide already what, you
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  know, your intellectual property.
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  And then also speaking, a lot of nurses are getting speaking
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  engagements where they're getting paid.
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  So yeah there's a lot of options out there.
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  Oh, great.
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  Because I was just about to ask you how to go about that.
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  So thanks for answering...
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  Yeah.
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  That question, the importance of having business acumen and
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  investing in personal development.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, that's absolutely necessary.
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  You know, when you first start in business, you might have a business
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  idea and you keep thinking it over, like, I'll give you an example.
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  So the third time I got laid off was I was an associate
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  dean of a nursing program.
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  And it was kind of unexpected.
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  I was only in the role for a few months.
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  I won't even get into details, but I almost felt like it was, they
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  did me a favor by letting me go.
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  Look.
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  I said it, I said it.
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  Don't ever challenge Farah.
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  She will prove you wrong.
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  But, you know, let's take it back to God in faith for a moment.
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  I truly believe that sometimes some doors close because you're being redirected
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  to your purpose and I truly believe.
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  I joke about it, I'm like, I think God is trying to push me more into
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  entrepreneurship and telling me, Hey, you have something bigger
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  to share, a bigger impact and you need to do it in a different way.
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  And the third time that it happened, I actually started laughing
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  and I just couldn't believe it.
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  And I said, whoa, okay.
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  And I said, alright, so what's next?
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  You know, because that's the type of mentality that nurses have.
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  Specifically as a ER nurse, you know, we have to just keep
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  it moving and do what's next.
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  So when I got laid off and we were moving actually to Tampa, Florida,
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  I knew no one in Tampa, Florida.
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  I said, well, what can I do?
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  So I continued my coaching, but I said, you know, I've always
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  wanted to do an event for nurses.
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  So many nurses have been coming to me asking me, Hey, how
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  did you start your business?
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  How did you become a nurse career coach?
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  Do you have to get certified?
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  Did you have to go to business school?
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  So I wrote a book called Nurses Making Money Moves in 2023.
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  Let me write that down and we'll drop that in the show notes,
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  Oh, yeah I have it right here.
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  Ooh, that's so.
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  And I self-published because I looked at publishing options.
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  It was too long, too costly, so I just did it myself, and I did it literally
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  in a couple weeks and had it published for a conference I was speaking at.
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  So based off that book, I always said I wanted to do a conference.
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  People kept saying, you can't do it.
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  It's gonna take a year.
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  Like you can't just pull it off on your own.
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  So then in December of 2024, something just kept nagging and it was like, do it.
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  It was like I just couldn't fall asleep.
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  And then I was like, okay.
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  Literally within two weeks, I called a couple people and I
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  was like, what do you think?
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  They're like, yeah.
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  They're like, that's a good idea.
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  And then there was one lady who was in business for a long time.
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  I was excited to talk to her and she said, yeah, you know,
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  if I were you, I wouldn't do it.
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  She said, you need a year.
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  It's the holidays, it's Christmas, new Year's is around the corner.
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  No one's gonna come.
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  But she's like, you know what?
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  I don't parade.
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  Go ahead if you think it's gonna work.
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  But if I were you, I wouldn't do it.
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  So I hung up the phone.
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  I was like, cool, I'm doing it.
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  What did I say?
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  Don't tell Farah she can't do it.
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  And you did.
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  So literally within two weeks I had the venue booked, all the speakers booked.
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  And started selling tickets and it was called Nurses
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  Making Money Moves Conference.
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  And it happened in March, literally in less than three months, I planned the
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  conference, had 20 different states represented, and about 80 nurses
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  and other entrepreneurs showed up.
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  And that's how that was born, right?
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  From your question I hope I answered it, but that was the example because
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  a lot of times we want to start businesses that we want to start,
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  but before you start it, you have to do some market research.
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  Yes.
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  And ask some questions and see who the viable potential clients
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  are before you go and invest all this money to do the business.
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  Somebody that I love to follow is Daniel Priestley.
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  I don't know if you've heard of him, but he's a serial entrepreneur.
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  He's based out of the UK.
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  But he talks about something about creating wait lists and he talks about
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  the concept of being oversubscribed.
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  So he says, you know, he's built his multiple businesses
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  to like millions and millions.
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  And he also coaches other millionaires and he says, before you start a
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  business, put out a waiting list to see if the people want that type of
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  whatever business you're launching.
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  And if you get at least 150 people who sign up for your wait list, then that
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  gives you an indication and a signal that, hey, people are interested.
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  Go ahead and, you know, write the book or do the launch or whatever.
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  And I think that's a great idea because you know, you have to have
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  some type of data before you go on and create something nobody wants.
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  I love that.
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  Put out that waiting list 'cause and see if people are interested.
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  I think that's market research 101.
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  Business 101.
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  Yes.
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  Don't put all your eggs.
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  And you know, just because you love it doesn't mean it's a problem that
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  is out there that people want solved.
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  You may think it's...
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  right.
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  I love that.
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  Yeah.
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  And I'm sure that's what you teach and you
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  coach.
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  Yeah.
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  And yeah.
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  And the other bit of it is 'cause I do mentor some aspiring nurse entrepreneurs.
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  Of course, the conference again is happening in March, March 6th and 7th.
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  Nurses Making Business Moves.
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  I changed the name.
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  Some people were upset, but I changed it just because I thought
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  maybe for sponsorships, people might understand it a little better.
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  Nurses making business moves so that they understand that it's educational,
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  you know, giving nurses entrepreneurial skills and mindset, whether it's in
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  their career or starting a business.
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  But nurses need to understand too that you can have a business idea.
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  It could be great, but if no one knows about it, no one's gonna purchase.
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  So this is why platforms like yours, having a podcast, building a personal
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  brand, speaking on stages, going to conferences, you have to be visible.
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  Yes.
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  And you have to create a personal brand so that people can know you.
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  And the foundation of all that is to create trust.
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  Yes.
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  So that people can get to know you and see, hey, yes, I like the, you
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  know, this person's values and I wanna support, or I wanna be a part
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  of what they're creating or building.
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  Yeah.
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  Because that like and trust factor is a big part of business success.
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  People have to, even if they don't know you, they have to like you.
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  And then when they like you, then they follow you and they get to know you.
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  But there has to be trust.
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  And that brings me to my final question about community.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  I know that, you know, whenever, when one has a business and one has
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  a business like yours where you are coaching and budding nurses to go
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  into business to become self-employed.
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  Yeah.
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  It helps if they sometimes are in a group setting.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  So how can you encourage them to, you know, find a community
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  that will help them grow?
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  Yeah, so definitely you know, I'm always a big advocate of finding
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  mentors and not just having one mentor.
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  I believe people should have multiple mentors, and if you are
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  a nurse, I think you should have mentors outside of nursing, right?
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  So...
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  Like that.
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  A couple of people have described multiple mentors, right?
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  But you should have someone in all aspects of your life.
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  Like you should probably have a mentor that's more like a
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  relationship or you know, type of mentor that kind of guides you.
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  And then also financial, somebody who's really good with finances.
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  And then, you know, obviously from the clinical standpoint, that can
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  help guide you along your career.
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  And that's where I come in, you know, I'm a mentor and also a nurse career
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  coach that helps nurses to make the right career path decisions so that they don't
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  waste time and to think, you know, oh, I have to wait before I can do this.
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  No, you don't have to wait.
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  You could just jump right in and do what you want.
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  Life is so short.
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  Why would you want to wait forever?
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  So mentorship is important, and investing in coaching is important like I mentioned.
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  Whether you wanna start a business or you want to grow in your career,
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  not only do you have to do personal development and nursing like skill wise.
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  We do CPR, we do this and this, but we also need career development
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  and that other type of growth.
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  And that's how I've grown as a nurse and as a business leader.
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  And also being in community.
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  A lot of times when we start businesses, we do it on our own.
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  Yes.
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  But once we start getting into business masterminds, getting coaches, and
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  this is why I built the community, Nurses Making Business Moves.
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  Businesses.
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  Love it, love it, love it.
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  On social, yeah, on social media, I create a lot of content.
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  Eventually I'll do a proper community.
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  But that's what it is right now.
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  And on that note, for those who are listening to this or viewing
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  this after the live stream, how can people get in touch with you, Farah?
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  Yeah, so the best way to contact me, I would say, is through LinkedIn.
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  That's where I'm always very active.
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  So you could just send me a direct message.
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  Or you can also go to nursefarah.com.
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  There's a section there where you can actually book a call if you
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  wanted to book a call with me.
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  And if you're a new nurse, I also do a weekly webinar.
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  It's a free webinar and you can subscribe to see when the next webinar happens.
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  Go to newnursejob.com where you can sign up and join me in my free webinars and
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  of course, nursesmakingbusinessmoves.com.
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  You can come meet me in person at the conference if you're able to
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  March 6th and 7th in Tampa, Florida.
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  Lovely, lovely, lovely.
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  And for those of you who just heard that she's having this event in March, March
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  6th and seventh, I also want you to know that she's going to be on my summit, which
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  runs from March 9th through the 14th.
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  She's gonna be one of our speakers, and this summit is a virtual summit,
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  and it's primarily for women.
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  So it's for you if you're a woman and you wanna step into leadership.
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  We're all shrinking back as you've heard, Farah talk.
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  If you want to increase your income without burnout, it's also for you.
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  You want to build bold visibility and speak with authority just like Farah did.
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  And last but not least, be in a community with other powerful, professional and
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  even non-professional women 'cause we have entrepreneurs in the community as well.
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  If this is you, make sure that you join us for the virtual summit
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  called Empower to Excel, a virtual summit for women entrepreneurs and
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  professionals, and it runs from the 9th of March through the 14th of March.
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  I will drop that link in the chat.
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  Thank you so much, Farah, for being a guest.
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  Thank you.
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  On Chatting with the Experts.
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  And now let's open up the floor to those who have joined us in
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  the live audience and want to have a chance to speak with you.
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  I won't be selfish.
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  I'll share you with them.
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  Thank you so much.
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  Thank you so much for the opportunity.
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  I really appreciate it and I'm excited about your event.
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  Thank you again.
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  I'm blessed to have you and everyone who has joined us today.
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  Thank you for joining.
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  Thank you.