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Real-Relatable Housewives (Real Housewives of Rhode Island S1 E3) · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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Speaker 1: with on our radio.
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Speaker 2: Hey everybody, we're back with the Almost Famous podcast. Today
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Speaker 2: we have another episode breaking down the real housewives of
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Speaker 2: Rhode Island. We're getting into the drama between well of course, Joellen,
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Speaker 2: Rula and Brian and get funky at Studio fifty four. Well,
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Speaker 2: it's a party that's themed Studio fifty four. We're celebrating
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Speaker 2: Jerry's fifty fourth birthday and meet Kelsey's other boyfriend. Oh
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Speaker 2: my goodness, we got a lot to cover. We're three
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Speaker 2: episodes in, Lauren, what are you loving so far or hating?
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Speaker 3: Okay, So I really enjoy well from other Housewives franchises.
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Speaker 3: Everyone is like very very wealthy, and the viewers are
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Speaker 3: like kind of picking up on the fact that these
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Speaker 3: girls are kind of like, you know, they're upper middle class,
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Speaker 3: they're not upper upper class. Like the episode starts out
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Speaker 3: with Rosie and she's living in like a she says,
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Speaker 3: like a one bedroom above a garage or something, and
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Speaker 3: they are building a home, but like any other Housewife
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Speaker 3: franchise would rent a mansion for that time period of
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Speaker 3: their house being built. So I kind of like the
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Speaker 3: realism and I love Rosie this episode, she's so funny.
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Speaker 3: She hates her outfit. Her outphate doesn't look like it's
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Speaker 3: from VERSACEI or something, so it's a little more down
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Speaker 3: to earth.
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Speaker 2: Is that strategic you think on their part to cast
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Speaker 2: people that are I mean, it's noticeable. Obviously some of
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Speaker 2: these houses are spectacular and we would all love to
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Speaker 2: own one and live in one. But then yeah, it
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Speaker 2: is there are these homes and these moments that are
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Speaker 2: not lavish, extremely luxurious. Was that strategic on the show's part.
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Speaker 3: I think it could be. I also think the people
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Speaker 3: of like Newport, Rhode Island, who are like a top
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Speaker 3: tier like they wouldn't have some projecked their lives to
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Speaker 3: this kind of scrutiny. I don't think.
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Speaker 2: So.
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Speaker 3: This is kind of over left with with Housewives, but
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Speaker 3: I enjoy it very much. I don't know if it's
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Speaker 3: like contrived.
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Speaker 2: Though, Yeah, I've enjoyed that part. There are moments that
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Speaker 2: feel touchable. I guess, yes, relatable Lauren. Before this season started,
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Speaker 2: there was a headline that came out about Ashley, and
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Speaker 2: I think the question was asked to Ashley and it
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Speaker 2: was I'm going to summarize it and also probably butcher
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Speaker 2: the question, but it was essentially, are you nervous that
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Speaker 2: going on the show is going to be detrimental to
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Speaker 2: your marriage with Jared? And at the time I was
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Speaker 2: very confused at why that question would be asked. I'd
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Speaker 2: never seen a Housewives season and obviously seen this season,
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Speaker 2: and I was like, well, they've been through reality television before,
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Speaker 2: why would this be detrimental? I now understand, Yeah, I
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Speaker 2: am now getting a picture of why that question was asked.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, because they're prying in every single corner of their relationship.
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Speaker 3: But normally I would be obviously very worried too, But
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Speaker 3: as we said on the first episode, there's no skeletons
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Speaker 3: in their closet, so we shouldn't have anything to worry about.
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Speaker 3: They're the most like honest, trustworthy people ever. I know,
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Speaker 3: everyone's like, oh, no, one, they would never cheat, They
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Speaker 3: would never cheat. But like, genuinely, there's not going to
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Speaker 3: be any cheating scandals with Ashley and Jared. It's going
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Speaker 3: to be semi wholesome. The funny thing is the drama
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Speaker 3: with Ashley and Jared is she just wants to make
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Speaker 3: Jared happy, you know, so like that's the most salacious
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Speaker 3: thing we're getting from them right now.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, if I mean this probably is going to come on.
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Speaker 2: Ashley might get mad at me for this point. I'm
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Speaker 2: sure she will if she can go twenty nine years
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Speaker 2: of her life being a virgin and then Mary Jared
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Speaker 2: after years of pursuing. I think they both pursued each
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Speaker 2: other in their own unique ways. I think we're like
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Speaker 2: setting the foundation for them to get through this.
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Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, they'll be absolutely fine.
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Speaker 2: I don't see Ashley being like, hey, I went twenty
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Speaker 2: nine years, I've been married to the man of my dream,
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Speaker 2: but like this guy in Rhode Island that feels like
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Speaker 2: an escape.
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Speaker 3: Exactly, and can we just you know, obviously it's my sister,
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Speaker 3: and I love Jared and he's very handsome. But I'm
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Speaker 3: loving the fact that all of America is finally seeing
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Speaker 3: Jared for like the handsome man that he is, Yeah,
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Speaker 3: but also compared to the other husbands, like he's.
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Speaker 2: Crushing it, crowding it. Yeah, it's the perfect I don't
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Speaker 2: know any other season, but like this, when Jared walks
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Speaker 2: into a room, let's just flash forward to the Studio
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Speaker 2: fifty four party. His outfit was obviously very funky. He
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Speaker 2: like wore light jeans with a brown belt and like
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Speaker 2: some silky shirt that he had un buttoned down to
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Speaker 2: his belly button. Not like he obviously could have cared
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Speaker 2: less outfit he was wearing. But even with that and
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Speaker 2: the probably lack of attention he took to that outfit,
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Speaker 2: he walks into room and he stands out because he
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Speaker 2: is such a handsome man.
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Speaker 3: He's a very handsome man. As we were saying before,
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Speaker 3: the chest hair really helps. I feel like Rhode Island
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Speaker 3: is semi you know Jersey and the fact that they're
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Speaker 3: very into like manscaping and grooming and all that stuff.
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Speaker 3: And we can see by like even Kelsey's boyfriend Billy
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Speaker 3: like just very like kind of like metro and put together.
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Speaker 3: So it's nice to see the chest hair come out,
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Speaker 3: at least on Jared's behalf.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jared and I have something in common. We've given
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Speaker 2: up like trimming and shaving chest hair. I think on
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Speaker 2: the show when we were both on the show, that
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Speaker 2: was still a thing. We were still trying to like
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Speaker 2: man escape our way through it. And I don't know
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Speaker 2: if I'd do it differently if I went on the
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Speaker 2: show today, But there is a level of I'm not
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Speaker 2: like I'm giving up and not like Jared's giving up,
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Speaker 2: but it is a confidence I think to just say
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Speaker 2: this is this is kind of what I got, Like
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Speaker 2: you're gonna enjoy.
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Speaker 3: It, Yes, and it is the men men get better
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Speaker 3: with age and like when they stop caring so much.
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Speaker 3: I mean, this is my like taste though, is like
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Speaker 3: I love a man with crow's feet, gray hair, Like
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Speaker 3: it's just like we look at Patrick Dempsey and just
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Speaker 3: keeping better and it's so annoying because there's such a
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Speaker 3: double standard. Like no one would ever say a well
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Speaker 3: would get hotter at the age, but maybe some people would.
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Speaker 3: But I love I love a man that gave up
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Speaker 3: a little bit.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's nice. Jared is absolutely rocking this season. I've heard, yes,
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Speaker 2: I haven't seen, but the memes have been pretty aggressive
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Speaker 2: and supported Jared so far.
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Speaker 3: I'm so happy, Yes, because Ashley loves the compliments. Most
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Speaker 3: women would be very offended and be like, back off,
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Speaker 3: back off, but she's like, thank you for admiring and
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Speaker 3: seeing what I saw all along.
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Speaker 2: Yes, there is a moment. We've talked about it before
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Speaker 2: in the show. Jared and Jared is one of the
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Speaker 2: sweetest humans. And when we were on the show together,
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Speaker 2: I was very nervous and he had a little more confidence,
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Speaker 2: but he was nervous as well, and we kind of
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Speaker 2: bonded over our shared Hey, I don't feel like we
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Speaker 2: belong in this room. And Jared went on a date
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Speaker 2: in New York City. If it's memorable, he did the
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Speaker 2: makeover with Caitlin Bristow, and he came back in the
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Speaker 2: room and we were all all the men looked at
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Speaker 2: each other like, oh, dang. Like he went from bowl
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Speaker 2: cut and like superman, super love guy or whatever he
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Speaker 2: called himself to like yeah love man to like really
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Speaker 2: really handsome and like a span of four hours, and
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Speaker 2: we were all like, gosh, dang it. He has a
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Speaker 2: good personality. And now he's he's we see it.
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Speaker 3: He shines up like a new penny.
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Speaker 2: He does. All right, let's dive into this episode. We're
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Speaker 2: gonna start at Rosie's house. Yeah, Rosie and her husband
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Speaker 2: are washing her pink jeep. We get to see Ashley
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Speaker 2: and Jared show it for the first time they are.
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Speaker 2: We get a picture. I think at this point, really
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Speaker 2: this scene is set to get a picture of what
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Speaker 2: Rosie's life is like she sold her apartment or is
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Speaker 2: selling her apartment, you can clarify that to build this
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Speaker 2: new home that they're like really expanding on.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that in future episodes, this this house
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Speaker 3: that she's building comes up and they use it against
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Speaker 3: her because like she's pretending she has more money than
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Speaker 3: she does and all this stuff.
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Speaker 2: Isn't that what we all do or like what most
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Speaker 2: people do anyways.
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Speaker 3: To pretend like you have more money than you do.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, is that like all of la.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. I think that's what we're used
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Speaker 3: to maybe with the people that we stread herself with.
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Speaker 3: But but yeah, I guess she sold her condo. He
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Speaker 3: sold his condo, and they're building this house together and
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Speaker 3: apparently he flips homes and this is something he really
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Speaker 3: loves to do. And I think this whole scene is
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Speaker 3: basically just to bring up just to rehash the like
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Speaker 3: the winery, and like Ashley offers nothing, and I feel
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Speaker 3: bad because like she's so concerned that she's offering nothing
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Speaker 3: this whole episode, but it's just kind of helped to
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Speaker 3: push the story along. So they're like they're giving the
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Speaker 3: rundown the winery. They're talking about study fifty four and
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Speaker 3: the outfits and stuff. I don't know, is there anything
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Speaker 3: else of note in this scene?
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Speaker 2: I mean they they open up about the polyamorous relationship
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Speaker 2: chips that were mentioned by Kelsey, and I think, I
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Speaker 2: don't know. For me, they're trying to communicate the story
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Speaker 2: of Ashley's trying to catch up. I think with a
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Speaker 2: lot of these stories, yes, yes, wait is this you know,
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Speaker 2: who's talking about what? And in a lot of ways
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Speaker 2: it's helpful because Ashley, outside of anything else, is kind
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Speaker 2: of the clarification that I need on this show because
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Speaker 2: I'm lost a little bit on like who's sleeping around
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Speaker 2: and who's not and who's sleeping with who. Ashley is
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Speaker 2: kind of there to be like wait, time out, what's
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Speaker 2: happening here? I love it. Get the re you know,
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Speaker 2: explanation of it.
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Speaker 3: That's so true. It's actually very helpful. I think she
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Speaker 3: did that at the winery too. She's like explained this
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Speaker 3: backstory to me, and it kind of just shows that
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Speaker 3: they're all really good friends when they go like, okay,
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Speaker 3: let's go way back in time. And I think that's
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Speaker 3: also what the viewers are really liking, is that there's
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Speaker 3: like so much lore to everyone's story, and I know
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Speaker 3: we see that at the end with Liz and Kelsey. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: we'll get to that later, but there are some things
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Speaker 3: that go way back.
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Speaker 2: It is a lot, and it is so much to
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Speaker 2: unpack in three episodes. I saw a meme on Instagram
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Speaker 2: of like a map of explaining everybody's relationships, and it
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Speaker 2: was it's wild to see who's connected to who?
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Speaker 3: You know, the old you know, the only sunny meme
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Speaker 3: where Charlie's like at the white cord or whatever, He's
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Speaker 3: all the string.
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Speaker 2: That's what we need, we one hundred percent. And I
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Speaker 2: still think it'd be confusing, and it kind of leads
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Speaker 2: us into the Liz and Jerry conversation where Liz and Jerry.
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Speaker 2: One thing I appreciate about their relationship in goodness. I
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Speaker 2: don't know if it's because of the comparison of other
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Speaker 2: relationships or what, but they're very open with each other. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: there is an open line of communication. It doesn't feel
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Speaker 2: the cheating stuff makes me uncomfortable, obviously, it's probably why
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Speaker 2: it's an enjoyment to watch because of the uncomfortability of it.
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Speaker 2: But the thing that makes me even more uncomfortable is
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Speaker 2: when there's rumors of scandal, and it feels like nobody's
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Speaker 2: actually communicating honesty with their partner or even their closest confidence.
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Speaker 2: And one thing about Liz and Jerry so far that
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Speaker 2: I've at least felt is that they do have a
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Speaker 2: open line of communication.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think that this show is going to
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Speaker 3: break them, Like, even if there is like cheating scandals
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Speaker 3: on both sides, I think they will hash it out
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Speaker 3: between themselves and then they're like, Okay, we're good to go.
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Speaker 3: And yeah, I'm not really worried about the relationship, even
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Speaker 3: though it sounds like her relationship with Dino is unique
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Speaker 3: and the fact that her husband is Jerry said like
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Speaker 3: take care of her a while gone on this like
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Speaker 3: fishing fishing expedition. So we'll see.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's sit on this Dino thing for a bit,
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Speaker 2: because it flows through the whole episode. I'm still I'm
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Speaker 2: gonna ask you some clarifying questions. Do we know for
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Speaker 2: a fact that there was anything inappropriate? And when I
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Speaker 2: say inappropriate, I guess I'm going by the traditional marriage vows. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 2: that happened between Liz and Dino.
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Speaker 3: I think that I mean, I would say on my
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Speaker 3: moral compass. The fact that you're calling another man like
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Speaker 3: four hundred times in a month or something, is it
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Speaker 3: is a little inappropriate unless he's like a gay man.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's fair. Okay, did Jerry though? Do you
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Speaker 2: think there is this like, Okay, here's my theory. It's
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Speaker 2: a very much of a theory. Liz and Jerry have
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Speaker 2: this very open line of communication and Jerry goes on
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Speaker 2: these fishing trips. He knows his wife. Is there a
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Speaker 2: world in which they don't want to admit to it
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Speaker 2: because this was a personal conversation they had as a couple,
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Speaker 2: but he almost gave the okay for Dino to support
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Speaker 2: his wife in whatever ways were needed while he was
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Speaker 2: out doing his thing, and they just don't want to
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Speaker 2: bring that up publicly. It wasn't cheating because we all knew, yes.
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Speaker 3: And it's like, if my wife's gonna hook up with
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Speaker 3: someone I wanted to be you Dino.
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Speaker 2: Yeah that's great, yeah right there.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then yeah, that's actually a very good theory
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Speaker 3: because it sounds like inappropriate. Maybe we got drunk. We
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Speaker 3: obviously see that Liz likes to drink, so they got drunk,
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Speaker 3: they hooked up and like, but how long are these
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Speaker 3: fishing things. You would think it's like over a year.
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Speaker 2: He said it. It was like every month for three weeks.
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Speaker 2: I don't know what that is. Yeah, it kind of
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Speaker 2: seems like because it seems like when they talk and
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Speaker 2: when the conversation's brought up, nobody's really hurt between Liz
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Speaker 2: and Jerry, and they're both kind of like not saying
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Speaker 2: yea something, both of them on the same team. They're like, hey,
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Speaker 2: we're both acknowledging this, but we're not actually going to
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Speaker 2: like bring it up and be like, yeah, this was
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Speaker 2: just an agreement we have because maybe they don't want
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Speaker 2: to be known as the open couple. That's what I'm
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Speaker 2: that's my theory, very much a theory, but it's the
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Speaker 2: theory that I have as this kind of conversation continues.
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Speaker 3: Now, I'm on that theory too, because that makes a
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Speaker 3: lot of sense. And at the end of the episode
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Speaker 3: they Liz was like, I want to go to like
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Speaker 3: the peer the doc with Dino and Jerry, and I
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Speaker 3: think it'd be good for everyone to see us together.
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Speaker 3: And if you are with actually with Dono, why would
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Speaker 3: you ever want to be all three together? So that's
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Speaker 3: a good theory.
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Speaker 2: They seems like they're all very friendly still, even with
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Speaker 2: the rumors. Jerry's not like pushing Dino out of his life,
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Speaker 2: and neither is Liz. Now they're leading up to Jerry's
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Speaker 2: fifty fourth birthday party, which is themed a Studio fifty
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Speaker 2: four birthday party. This is I will say, one thing
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Speaker 2: I've picked up on in Real Housewives is when they
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Speaker 2: throw a party, they throw a party. I mean, these
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Speaker 2: are lavish and I don't go. Maybe I just I
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Speaker 2: mean I thought I had a lot of friends, or
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Speaker 2: at least I thought I had a few friends. I
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Speaker 2: don't have parties like this that I go to.
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Speaker 3: No, And it makes me kind of sad because they
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Speaker 3: look kind of fun. So then it jumps to Joe
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Speaker 3: Ellen and Gary and they're kind of recapping all the
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Speaker 3: drama with Rula because Rula and Brian the cheating husband,
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Speaker 3: are going to be at the Studio fifty four party,
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Speaker 3: and they're kind of talking about how Brian called Joelan's
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Speaker 3: work try to sabotage her, and I think this is
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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not going to jump right to the party,
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Speaker 3: even though I really wanted to, because I really love
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Speaker 3: Gary because he is like where I'm gonna stand by
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Speaker 3: my woman.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean there is an ownership here. Now. Granted,
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Speaker 2: I don't even think any of us are in the
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Speaker 2: place to make a judgment call on what was right
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Speaker 2: or wrong. And we're going to dive deep into this
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Speaker 2: conversation because it was an I mean, I would think
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Speaker 2: this as a non viewer of any other show, that
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Speaker 2: was an epic interaction, absolutely at the end of this party.
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Speaker 2: But I think it is setting the stage. It gives us,
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Speaker 2: at least the basis for the story of Joelle and
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Speaker 2: I you know, knows about the extra mayor extramarital affairs
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Speaker 2: of Brian. Yeah, and he responds to her knowing about
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Speaker 2: it with a call to her work. Now, viewers make
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Speaker 2: the judgment call if that was right or wrong or whatever.
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Speaker 2: We'll dive into that in a bit, But it does
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Speaker 2: set the stage for an interaction that I think the
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Speaker 2: whole episode is leading up towards. Yes, is they're going
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Speaker 2: to see each other and what's going to happen. But
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Speaker 2: then we I mean, there's so much happening in this episode.
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Speaker 2: This episode moves so fast into storylines that are like
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Speaker 2: like any other crucial, like any other show that's on television.
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Speaker 2: If you had this next scene with Kelsey and her
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Speaker 2: boyfriend Bill or friend Bill or whatever Bill.
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Speaker 3: Is William Billy Bill, Yeah.
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Speaker 2: If that would be like the main storyline of a show.
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Speaker 2: But it's almost skipped over in this episode because there's
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Speaker 2: so much other things happening. Correct, They're at a coffee
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Speaker 2: shop and meet Bill. Bill is nothing like what we
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Speaker 2: know about her current other boyfriend, Yeah, of ten years,
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Speaker 2: nothing nothing.
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Speaker 3: And he's he seems like a little cutie. I really
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Speaker 3: love the story that they've known each other since seventh
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Speaker 3: grade and that her mom is always asking about how's
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Speaker 3: my Billy doing?
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I like can relate to that so much
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Speaker 3: because I met my husband in seventh grade and my
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Speaker 3: family loved him and they were always like, but what
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Speaker 3: about Hunter? But what about Hunter? You know? So I
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Speaker 3: think that's really cute and I think he's endgame. I
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Speaker 3: think this is her husband.
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Speaker 2: I think there's something to be said about a parent's
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Speaker 2: subtle clues that you have to listen to. Right If
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Speaker 2: your mom is asking about this guy and she knows
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Speaker 2: your current situation, I think you want to focus on
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Speaker 2: that a little bit more. Now, there are some things
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Speaker 2: that I'm thankful that Kelsey is acknowledging, and like it
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Speaker 2: or not, I do think the lifestyle change is hard
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Speaker 2: for her to wrap her head around. Yeah, and I
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Speaker 2: understand why that would be. She even says Bill's successful,
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Speaker 2: but I would have to go back to work. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: at some point though. If I was her father and
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Speaker 2: I'm like her age, I would say that's okay, Like,
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Speaker 2: you know what, go back to work. This is building
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Speaker 2: a life that you dream of with kids, and it's
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Speaker 2: setting something up for a long term relationship. And your
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Speaker 2: current situation is obviously not getting anywhere to that you
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Speaker 2: can either. And here's my concern. She's thirty years old.
19:45
Speaker 2: Is this other guy going to keep her around when
19:47
Speaker 2: she's forty?
19:48
Speaker 3: No, we know this man.
19:51
Speaker 2: Rip the band aid off now and make the move.
19:55
Speaker 2: It's not too late.
19:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I feel like she may have sa the
20:00
Speaker 3: steam issues at this point, Like she's been essentially a
20:03
Speaker 3: side chick for eleven years. She has no skills, which
20:08
Speaker 3: she'll probably meant herself. I don't even think she has work,
20:12
Speaker 3: so I don't know where she's going back to. So
20:14
Speaker 3: she's been a side chick, she's never worked, and this
20:16
Speaker 3: guy Bill has probably always had a crush on her
20:19
Speaker 3: because she's gorgeous, and she's like, yeah, like that this
20:24
Speaker 3: will work. Even though I think he is endgame. I
20:26
Speaker 3: think that he's lovely and he's been around for a while,
20:28
Speaker 3: for a really long time. But I think that she
20:32
Speaker 3: has to work on her self esteem and I think
20:33
Speaker 3: like getting her own is going to help her. And
20:37
Speaker 3: then I'm not saying Billy's unattractive, Okay, I think he's
20:40
Speaker 3: a very handsome man. He's very Rhode Island Okay, but
20:43
Speaker 3: like she could really be with like someone like spectacular
20:45
Speaker 3: who would treat her right and be extremely handsome.
20:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, he has the same haircut that he had in
20:49
Speaker 2: seventh grade.
20:50
Speaker 3: That's exactly it. It's like, we're done with the tapered.
20:52
Speaker 3: We need to let herselves go a little bit more.
20:54
Speaker 3: It's too clean, Like as we said, it's too clean.
20:57
Speaker 2: Well that has to be like, but he's got a
21:00
Speaker 2: haircut a week for thirty years, twenty.
21:04
Speaker 3: Farmers best friend.
21:05
Speaker 2: Yeah.
21:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, So she said she'd she had to go back
21:08
Speaker 3: to work and then like have all the kids, all
21:11
Speaker 3: this stuff, And I feel like a lot of the
21:14
Speaker 3: themes is going back to work, having kids and being married,
21:19
Speaker 3: because we talk about we talked to Alicia about that
21:22
Speaker 3: possibility of her having to go back to work. We
21:25
Speaker 3: talk about Ashley working with two kids, Kelsey having kids
21:29
Speaker 3: and having to work. It's like, it's such a topic
21:32
Speaker 3: conversation amongst these women and obviously every woman that wants
21:37
Speaker 3: a family.
21:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's it's a fun conversation. I think to
21:41
Speaker 2: see on a show like this, you expect this show
21:43
Speaker 2: to be lifestyles of the untouchables, right, like lifestyles of
21:48
Speaker 2: people who you're like, yeah, I'll never have a yacht
21:51
Speaker 2: and I'll never live on the ocean. But these conversations
21:55
Speaker 2: are so relatable with really every level of the so
22:00
Speaker 2: shoe economic like ladder where yeah, so many of us
22:04
Speaker 2: live in this place where we're like, yeah, two people
22:06
Speaker 2: have to work. My wife works, I work, right, Like
22:09
Speaker 2: we both have to supply and help out the family,
22:12
Speaker 2: which is a very modern idea, but it's also very
22:15
Speaker 2: helpful and healthy. It's just sometimes hard to wrap your
22:18
Speaker 2: brain around when maybe you're used to a lifestyle of
22:21
Speaker 2: not doing that and going to lunch with your friends
22:23
Speaker 2: for a few hours every day. It is a change,
22:27
Speaker 2: but once you make it, I've seen it in my
22:29
Speaker 2: own life and my own family is there is a
22:31
Speaker 2: confidence and there's a like a character building, and it's
22:34
Speaker 2: exciting for us both to come to the table at
22:36
Speaker 2: night and be like, how was your work day individually.
22:41
Speaker 3: That like personally, the little I always was like, once
22:44
Speaker 3: I have kids, There's no way I could have the
22:47
Speaker 3: energy to work because I'd be dealing with the kids
22:49
Speaker 3: all like, but I now that I'm here, Like, there's
22:53
Speaker 3: no way I could just be at home with a
22:54
Speaker 3: kid all day. I would go insane. And it's interesting
22:58
Speaker 3: that it's like a modern idea all the housewives must
23:02
Speaker 3: be going insane.
23:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and we kind of see it with Ashley, right,
23:05
Speaker 2: we see that conversation take place with Ashley and Jared
23:09
Speaker 2: on their little date. I know Ashley confided in you
23:13
Speaker 2: about that scene, and so I think it's best for
23:16
Speaker 2: you to kind of take it away on giving us
23:18
Speaker 2: maybe a picture that was communicated on television, but also
23:24
Speaker 2: communicated through the source of what was actually happening and
23:27
Speaker 2: what is happening in Ashley's mind during that, you know,
23:31
Speaker 2: season of life.
23:33
Speaker 3: So that season of life was really difficult for her
23:35
Speaker 3: because Hayden was like kind of a terror until like
23:41
Speaker 3: three months ago, like he was a difficult baby. She
23:46
Speaker 3: just has difficult babies. But also that scene was over
23:50
Speaker 3: two and a half hours long, and she thought it
23:52
Speaker 3: was a really lovely scene between her and Jared and
23:54
Speaker 3: they he cried, She obviously she cried, but like it
23:58
Speaker 3: was more than just like the pepper shaker. It was
24:01
Speaker 3: more than just saying I don't want to be at
24:03
Speaker 3: home with these two kids. And that wasn't even what
24:05
Speaker 3: she was trying to convey. She's basically like, if I
24:08
Speaker 3: am at home and I don't see you that much
24:10
Speaker 3: and you're working, I want you to at least be fulfilled,
24:13
Speaker 3: you know. So that's what was trying to be conveyed,
24:17
Speaker 3: and they clipped it in a very odd way. I
24:20
Speaker 3: don't know. I think that she's she obviously works so
24:23
Speaker 3: much too, and she has a nanny, which Alyssa, we
24:27
Speaker 3: love you. You're the best standing of all time, so
24:30
Speaker 3: she has like that balance as well. I don't I
24:32
Speaker 3: think she was just trying to convey that if if
24:34
Speaker 3: he's not going to be home, you better be happy,
24:36
Speaker 3: and then what they were going to do with Audrey
24:37
Speaker 3: in the coming years, But they didn't add that.
24:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, as we've talked about before. I wonder if Audrey's
24:46
Speaker 2: kind of strategy has changed over the last few weeks.
24:49
Speaker 4: There's a possibility, yes, definitely a possibility.
24:53
Speaker 2: That things have changed there.
24:55
Speaker 3: Yeah, we may be open for a little bit longer.
24:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's great. Yeah, you know there's this like
25:12
Speaker 2: call and there's this calming moment for me when Jared
25:17
Speaker 2: Nashally sit down. The conversation is so drastically different though,
25:22
Speaker 2: than every other conversation that feels like it's happening on
25:24
Speaker 2: Real Housewives of Rhode Island. Their conversation is more what
25:28
Speaker 2: I sense of, Hey, how are we gonna build this
25:31
Speaker 2: family unit to be stronger? What do we need to
25:34
Speaker 2: do to support each other better? What do we need
25:37
Speaker 2: to do to support our family better? How are we
25:40
Speaker 2: going to continue to grow and move forward as a family? Well,
25:44
Speaker 2: where so many other conversations are like talking about hey,
25:48
Speaker 2: like our family might include like two other dudes.
25:51
Speaker 3: I know, and it's like why didn't you stick up
25:54
Speaker 3: for me? All this stuff? It is It is amazing
25:56
Speaker 3: and I'm so happy to have them part of my family.
25:58
Speaker 3: I'm very proud of them. No, that's awesome, Yeah, because
26:02
Speaker 3: like I could never imagine it being the other way,
26:05
Speaker 3: like having to deal with like the arguing, seeing the
26:08
Speaker 3: arguing and like the cheating and stuff like that would
26:10
Speaker 3: be that would be awful. So I'm glad it's just
26:12
Speaker 3: like kind of a boring scene. She's like, She's like,
26:15
Speaker 3: I added nothing to this episode. The scene was stupid.
26:19
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm like, you're a great person. You seem
26:22
Speaker 3: very lovely, you're very relatable. You order rigatoni or whatever
26:26
Speaker 3: you're eating, and everyone's eating carbs and we love to
26:29
Speaker 3: see it.
26:30
Speaker 2: I think Ashley has this thought right now, and she
26:34
Speaker 2: listens to these episodes where if she's not involved in
26:38
Speaker 2: the drama, she doesn't add to the episode. But I
26:42
Speaker 2: actually think the ying and the yang of these episodes
26:44
Speaker 2: are what make these things so good because we get
26:48
Speaker 2: to see the whole perspective, and then we get to
26:50
Speaker 2: see how Ashley and Jared still mingle well with all
26:55
Speaker 2: these other aspects that are happening around them, the drama,
27:00
Speaker 2: the friendship fighting. Yeah, I actually think she's adding more
27:05
Speaker 2: because without Ashley and Jered, this thing's just chaos. That's true,
27:09
Speaker 2: but they bring it to a level of Okay, now
27:11
Speaker 2: we're back to like square one, again, Ashley is the
27:15
Speaker 2: kind of filter for which all of us are asking
27:17
Speaker 2: our questions, being like, what's happening here? And she's asking
27:20
Speaker 2: those questions. I'm proud of her also and thankful that
27:26
Speaker 2: she's that I'm not coming on here with her sister
27:29
Speaker 2: being like goodness, I know that.
27:36
Speaker 3: We may see that.
27:37
Speaker 2: Who knows. There's a moment where I hope. So there's
27:41
Speaker 2: really one or two big things that stand out to
27:44
Speaker 2: me Before we get to the obviously Studio fifty four
27:47
Speaker 2: party Alicia's house and we see Liz come over to
27:50
Speaker 2: Alisha's house. Alicia has a massive doll collection. Personally, I
27:56
Speaker 2: really don't like dolls. They really creep me out, and
28:01
Speaker 2: I'm clowns. People know that about me, and dolls are
28:04
Speaker 2: not like I love.
28:06
Speaker 3: To take you to the Haunted Museum in Las Vegas.
28:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, not my thing. Okay, I get really sketched out
28:13
Speaker 2: by these things. These dolls aren't creepy. I think the
28:18
Speaker 2: question that is asked is is it normal or is
28:24
Speaker 2: it Okay? I would say yes for an adult to
28:27
Speaker 2: have a doll collection of this size.
28:29
Speaker 3: Okay, Now, I'm going to be extremely honest. I think
28:31
Speaker 3: I blacked out during this part, or maybe I thought
28:33
Speaker 3: it was extremely normal because two halloweens ago, our theme
28:37
Speaker 3: for our yard was haunted dolls. He would have hated it.
28:40
Speaker 3: So I have like a ton of like weird porcelain dolls.
28:43
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, Oh, but like are they are? They're not
28:46
Speaker 3: like porcelain dolls.
28:47
Speaker 4: They're they're like child child's Yeah, they're like modern brat dolls,
28:51
Speaker 4: like almost with like she's really like appreciating the like
28:55
Speaker 4: artwork on them, how they've done like three layer eyeliner.
28:59
Speaker 3: It sounds like she does need to have a job.
29:01
Speaker 2: Maybe, Yeah, there is that. There is that. It usually
29:05
Speaker 2: stems I have a few friends who have some wild collections.
29:09
Speaker 2: It stems from this childhood obsession, right that like this
29:12
Speaker 2: helped them feel comfortable or safe. She does not let
29:16
Speaker 2: her daughter play with these dolls. These are her dolls
29:18
Speaker 2: to admire and to collect. I think there is this level.
29:26
Speaker 2: To me, it's like that's fine, it's not. It throws
29:29
Speaker 2: me off a bit because I don't like them. But
29:31
Speaker 2: if you're into.
29:32
Speaker 3: Them, what other collections does your friends have?
29:34
Speaker 2: Oh, we have like fly fishing, like lures, we have
29:39
Speaker 2: those collections. We have a car collection, like a miniature
29:42
Speaker 2: car collection. We obviously I have friends who still have
29:44
Speaker 2: the Pokemon card collections.
29:46
Speaker 3: So it's just the same as that.
29:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't see any difference. I don't either. I
29:51
Speaker 2: have a Beanie t y whatever those called Beanie bat
29:56
Speaker 2: beanie babies. I have a huge collection of beanie babies. Massive,
30:01
Speaker 2: that's weird enough. So yeah, don't come to my house
30:03
Speaker 2: and look for him. It's very hit and you'll never
30:05
Speaker 2: find it. But I think it throws us off. But
30:09
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's as big of a thing
30:11
Speaker 2: as is what some will feel.
30:13
Speaker 3: I don't think it is either. It's a fun little tibot,
30:16
Speaker 3: but I think that she has a I mean, she
30:17
Speaker 3: just have young kids, so she doesn't have a lot
30:19
Speaker 3: of time on her hands. But she is talking to
30:21
Speaker 3: Liz about like how if her husband left her or
30:26
Speaker 3: not her husband, her fiance and that's why they haven't
30:29
Speaker 3: gotten married because the prenup said that she would have nothing. Yeah,
30:34
Speaker 3: so what happens to her doll collection? Then?
30:37
Speaker 2: What do you think about that? Prenups have been a
30:39
Speaker 2: big conversation Lauren on this show for a while now.
30:41
Speaker 3: I Mean I always think like, once you are together,
30:46
Speaker 3: then it's whatever you build from there on is fifty
30:49
Speaker 3: to fifty. But before that that should be his or hers, you.
30:55
Speaker 2: Know, doesn't it kind of sound from this though, that
30:57
Speaker 2: the prenup state like is stating that anything he has
31:00
Speaker 2: made from the moment they got married or the moment
31:04
Speaker 2: they got together will not be hers either.
31:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess. So, I mean they have to like
31:10
Speaker 3: revisit that conversation. I don't think prenups are bad. I
31:13
Speaker 3: think they make sense for a lot of people. But
31:17
Speaker 3: she should probably revisit it because it sounds like that's
31:19
Speaker 3: her number one boggaboo about not getting married.
31:22
Speaker 2: Is that she could end up with nothing. She could
31:24
Speaker 2: end up with nothing, and I think it's like, it's
31:27
Speaker 2: only I mean, these are his children, right that she's
31:31
Speaker 2: caring for. Yeah, I mean I think common sense and
31:35
Speaker 2: logic would say, hey, if you're going to care for
31:37
Speaker 2: the children then and we're not going to you know,
31:42
Speaker 2: have you work being a saying her mom is a
31:44
Speaker 2: very admirable job, and it is a full time job
31:47
Speaker 2: and it's a very hard job, then there is some
31:50
Speaker 2: type of financial benefit just to give you that peace
31:54
Speaker 2: of mind, because if not, what are you actually communicating
31:58
Speaker 2: to the love of your life and your partner. If
32:01
Speaker 2: you're communicating, hey, you're not going to get anything ever,
32:05
Speaker 2: like you're pretty much saying like I'm going to mess
32:07
Speaker 2: you over at some point.
32:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, No, I think it's really messed up. And
32:11
Speaker 3: I have a really hard time believing that this man,
32:13
Speaker 3: who I think seems very sweet, would ever do that
32:15
Speaker 3: to her. So I feel like, I hope there's like
32:18
Speaker 3: a wedding at the end of the season. That'd be
32:19
Speaker 3: really fun.
32:20
Speaker 2: That'd be fun.
32:22
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd be great. I think they just need to
32:23
Speaker 3: rehash it, because there's no way this man's goma be like,
32:25
Speaker 3: you've taken care of our children for so long, you
32:28
Speaker 3: get nothing. And I know she's scared because she said
32:31
Speaker 3: her mom was left without a house when her parents
32:33
Speaker 3: got divorced or her dad left, So it's childhood trauma
32:36
Speaker 3: all around.
32:38
Speaker 2: It's it's a weird situation. I want that to continue though.
32:41
Speaker 2: That's a storyline I do want to see come through,
32:44
Speaker 2: and I would love to see kind of the sit
32:46
Speaker 2: down that Ashley and Jared have with Alicia and her
32:48
Speaker 2: husband where she says, hey, I feel this way, can
32:52
Speaker 2: we somehow come to a compromise. Oh yeah, sorry, it's
32:55
Speaker 2: her fiance.
32:55
Speaker 3: Sheancey, it's weird when I mean, it's kind of crazy
32:58
Speaker 3: when they have you have kids and your together for
33:00
Speaker 3: what nine years or something or eleven years, can't remember.
33:04
Speaker 3: So Rula has her Lebanese party where all her friends
33:07
Speaker 3: come over that she feels comfortable talking about this with.
33:10
Speaker 3: And I find it shocking that she's it seems like
33:13
Speaker 3: everyone around her knows that her husband's cheating on her.
33:17
Speaker 3: But how basically she has to forgive him even if
33:20
Speaker 3: he did cheat on her because her family can't handle
33:24
Speaker 3: a divorce because it's like not in their culture or
33:27
Speaker 3: their religion or anything. But then we find out that
33:29
Speaker 3: Rula was actually divorced before she got married to Brian,
33:34
Speaker 3: and she says, I don't think we should talk about
33:37
Speaker 3: that in her Rula voice, and I'm like, what the
33:41
Speaker 3: hell happened? Rula? You know, I don't know if we'll
33:44
Speaker 3: ever get into it.
33:45
Speaker 2: Rula and Brian throughout this episode, I guess I'm confused
33:51
Speaker 2: on why they agreed to be on the show, because
33:53
Speaker 2: there's this there's a lot of moments where they're like,
33:55
Speaker 2: we're not going to talk about this here because they
33:57
Speaker 2: want to say because the cameras are right here, but
34:00
Speaker 2: they don't. But it feels like they're not saying exactly
34:04
Speaker 2: what's going on because there's cameras there and they don't
34:08
Speaker 2: like It's it's almost too uncomfortable for me to watch
34:11
Speaker 2: because it feels like there's so much behind the scenes
34:14
Speaker 2: and so much actually like real stuff happening in both
34:17
Speaker 2: of their lives and as a couple. Yeah, that they're
34:21
Speaker 2: almost at a breaking point, or they are at a
34:23
Speaker 2: breaking point and they don't want to expose it anymore
34:27
Speaker 2: because just more painful. But they've agreed or she's agreed
34:31
Speaker 2: to be on this show where now cameras are going
34:35
Speaker 2: to be around, I know.
34:36
Speaker 3: And these kids aren't gonna end up watching all this
34:38
Speaker 3: stuff and these women yelling at their dad for being
34:42
Speaker 3: a scumbag, and it is it is insane. They decided
34:46
Speaker 3: to do this show, and it seems like they weren't
34:48
Speaker 3: like struggling or anything, because a lot of people say
34:50
Speaker 3: yes for fame and money and all that. But their
34:52
Speaker 3: house is beautiful. He's a mediatrist, she's a financial advisor.
34:57
Speaker 3: Like things are going well for them, so I don't
34:59
Speaker 3: think it was crucial for them be on the show.
35:00
Speaker 3: But we are thankful they are because it's very interesting.
35:03
Speaker 3: Because the fight at the end between Joe Ellen and Gary,
35:11
Speaker 3: Gary and Rula and Brian are is incredible. I almost
35:16
Speaker 3: just want to like jump to that.
35:19
Speaker 2: I mean, I think we can because the Studio fifty
35:21
Speaker 2: four party, if we summarized it is a really fun
35:24
Speaker 2: looking party. There's a ton of people in a beautiful place.
35:27
Speaker 2: Everybody's dressed up looking good. You know, Dina, we've kind
35:31
Speaker 2: of covered that whole thing with Kelsey.
35:33
Speaker 3: This is wasted. We have to address that too. Yeah,
35:36
Speaker 3: she's having a.
35:36
Speaker 2: Good time, she's enjoying everything. Were those really Ashley's bangs?
35:42
Speaker 2: Or is at a wig?
35:43
Speaker 3: They were clip ons, clip on bangs. And she did
35:46
Speaker 3: actually cut her real banks because she's an idiot.
35:49
Speaker 2: Do you cut her hair usually?
35:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, I cut her hair, yeah, but she's so basic.
35:53
Speaker 3: It's just like a trim, you know.
35:55
Speaker 2: But she for whatever reason, decided to cut her own
35:57
Speaker 2: hair at some point.
35:58
Speaker 3: I unfortunately do not live in Red Eye, and so
36:00
Speaker 3: I couldn't cut her banks.
36:01
Speaker 2: Okay, And she still have bangs. She knows. That's like
36:04
Speaker 2: the one thing I think no girl should ever get.
36:06
Speaker 3: It was like one little thing here and then she
36:08
Speaker 3: like just snipped it accidentally, you know. Yeah, yeah, so
36:12
Speaker 3: it was an accidental bank trim. But she looked great.
36:16
Speaker 3: That outfit was amazing. She had that in her closet
36:18
Speaker 3: for a very long time. I'm glad she got to
36:19
Speaker 3: wear that.
36:20
Speaker 2: Why did she have in her closet.
36:22
Speaker 3: I think she actually had it for like an iHeart
36:25
Speaker 3: Awards show or something, and she never wore it, or
36:28
Speaker 3: she did wear once, pulled it back out. Yeah, yeah,
36:33
Speaker 3: go back out.
36:34
Speaker 2: Good for her. The rest of the party, it's interesting.
36:39
Speaker 2: Bill shows up, yes, which I think is cool because
36:44
Speaker 2: her other boyfriend doesn't show up to these things. Yeah,
36:47
Speaker 2: so he's at least showing up.
36:49
Speaker 3: And Bill knows seems to know a lot of people there.
36:51
Speaker 3: Bill is a classic Rhode Island boy who knows everyone.
36:55
Speaker 2: Yeah. Jared does drop during this that he has participated
36:59
Speaker 2: on Chippendale's before.
37:00
Speaker 3: Yes, he loves to discuss that.
37:04
Speaker 2: That's a good one. I remember the poster. It's something
37:07
Speaker 2: it'll make I mean, in fact, I should probably come
37:09
Speaker 2: out with his new rise of popularity and intrigue. I
37:13
Speaker 2: hope that poster comes back out.
37:14
Speaker 3: A residency at Chippendale's.
37:16
Speaker 2: Yes, that would be so. I'd probably go.
37:19
Speaker 3: Watch you should probably do it yourself.
37:36
Speaker 2: All right, let's just jump to it. Yeah, this is
37:40
Speaker 2: really what the whole episode is building up to. We've
37:43
Speaker 2: we've laid the groundwork, we've created the storylines. We know
37:48
Speaker 2: there's tension, and it is who actually facilitates this sit down?
37:55
Speaker 2: Is it Joellen?
37:56
Speaker 3: Joellen? Yeah? She like goes up to r She goes,
37:59
Speaker 3: I know we have a lot to talk about. Let's
38:01
Speaker 3: just do it. And she goes, we do have a
38:02
Speaker 3: lot to talk about it. So then they go sit down,
38:04
Speaker 3: they have their husbands there, and then but Joellen basically
38:10
Speaker 3: is like, why did you call my work like this?
38:13
Speaker 3: This is your issue? Why did you call my work?
38:15
Speaker 3: And then Gary's like, you could talk, you could do whatever.
38:19
Speaker 3: But when it comes to my wife's work and putting
38:22
Speaker 3: food on the table for my kids, that's what I
38:24
Speaker 3: have a problem. And I'm like, yes, because why would
38:28
Speaker 3: you call and tell and tell Joellen's work to stop,
38:36
Speaker 3: to have her stop talking about your affair. And then
38:39
Speaker 3: when Rula is like, tell them nothing is happening. Still,
38:44
Speaker 3: he couldn't do it. He couldn't do that because it
38:47
Speaker 3: would be a lie. And then it totally invalidates the
38:51
Speaker 3: fact that he did call the work and he admits
38:54
Speaker 3: to calling the work to talk about her. That has
38:57
Speaker 3: nothing to do with how you're performing in your job. Nothing,
39:01
Speaker 3: It's just your butt hurt that your secer got out.
39:03
Speaker 3: And also tell your mistress just not post pictures on
39:06
Speaker 3: the internet.
39:07
Speaker 2: Wait, she's posting, and I don't think I saw this
39:08
Speaker 2: as she posted.
39:09
Speaker 3: The mistress posted pictures of them together on the internet.
39:12
Speaker 3: And that's how Joellen found out because Joellen follows the
39:16
Speaker 3: mistress on Instagram.
39:17
Speaker 2: She follows everybody on Instagram, Yes she does.
39:19
Speaker 3: And she followed me last night.
39:21
Speaker 2: Oh goodness, I gotta see if she followed me. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
39:25
Speaker 2: It's so uncomfortable. The whole conversation actually is fine. They're
39:28
Speaker 2: kind of hashing it out and it's moving forward, and
39:31
Speaker 2: it's going in a direction where at least everything's being
39:34
Speaker 2: laid on the table, and it does seem like there's
39:37
Speaker 2: gonna be some type maybe not reconciliation, but at least
39:41
Speaker 2: all of them will be in the same room. They
39:42
Speaker 2: might not like each other, they might not respect each other,
39:45
Speaker 2: but they can at least be around each other until Rula,
39:50
Speaker 2: which is a very fair statement from her to ask
39:52
Speaker 2: her husband to say, just tell them it's not going
39:55
Speaker 2: on anymore.
39:55
Speaker 3: Yes, and then we'll squash it.
39:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it. Everything else is on the table. Hey,
40:00
Speaker 2: you called Joellen's work. That probably wasn't great. Gary's told
40:04
Speaker 2: you how painful that was and how he doesn't respect it.
40:07
Speaker 2: Nobody's threatening fisticuffs here. We're just talking this out and saying, hey,
40:13
Speaker 2: she might have called you out, you've called her out.
40:16
Speaker 2: We don't like that. But if this situation's over, then
40:19
Speaker 2: we all move on. We all move on.
40:21
Speaker 3: Like he admitted to having an affair, we can move
40:25
Speaker 3: on from that and be like, you're right, he was,
40:28
Speaker 3: but it's the ongoing part that he refuses to address.
40:32
Speaker 3: And he looks like a little.
40:34
Speaker 2: Bit really yeah, because I think Rula this whole time
40:37
Speaker 2: has been like, hey, I don't like that he had
40:39
Speaker 2: an affair. It's really hurt me. But it's over. It's done.
40:43
Speaker 2: He's told me it's done, and so we're gonna just
40:46
Speaker 2: like squash it and move on. However, we've decided to
40:49
Speaker 2: do that in our own household. But when she puts
40:52
Speaker 2: him in the corner, which would be a very easy
40:54
Speaker 2: answer that he should be able to give, is Yes,
40:56
Speaker 2: it's done. It's been done. Yeah, she says, tell him
40:59
Speaker 2: it's over, and Joellen says it's still going on. And
41:04
Speaker 2: Rula goes back and says, Brian, tell him it's over.
41:08
Speaker 2: He doesn't do.
41:10
Speaker 3: It, he doesn't do it. And I think he doesn't
41:13
Speaker 3: do it because he may think that Joellen has more
41:15
Speaker 3: proof that it is and then he'll get caught in
41:18
Speaker 3: another lie. And then when Rula and Brian go in
41:22
Speaker 3: the car and they leave the party, she goes, why
41:23
Speaker 3: didn't you say anything? He goes, Oh, you were doing
41:25
Speaker 3: a good enough job for me. What like, you're letting
41:29
Speaker 3: your wife take all this blame and all this heat
41:33
Speaker 3: and you can't even jump in. And that's why I
41:35
Speaker 3: think Gary looks so good. Now I'm going to say
41:38
Speaker 3: I didn't love especially as a hairstylest, especially if someone
41:42
Speaker 3: who who specializes extensions, as you can see right here
41:45
Speaker 3: that Joellen said, I want to shake Rula, but that
41:49
Speaker 3: would route that her topper would fall off, and that's
41:55
Speaker 3: like such a sensitive topic, you know, like someone who
41:57
Speaker 3: has thinning hair and stuff. I was like, that's like
42:00
Speaker 3: you can make fun of someone's clothes and makeup and
42:02
Speaker 3: all that stuff, but like don't talk about that, but
42:06
Speaker 3: you do want to shake her.
42:07
Speaker 2: But and you're also not I think you've touched on something.
42:11
Speaker 2: I actually had to look up what a topper was
42:12
Speaker 2: when that was said. I didn't know what it was.
42:14
Speaker 2: This whole I mean, like, this whole conversation did not
42:18
Speaker 2: get like personally attacked. It didn't feel personally attacking anybody
42:23
Speaker 2: outside of here's what happened, right, You had an affair.
42:26
Speaker 2: I knew about it. You called my work. I do
42:29
Speaker 2: think you're You're right. When they do cross the line
42:32
Speaker 2: to make fun of each other, yeah, yeah, where it
42:35
Speaker 2: does feel very dirty and just that's not fair like
42:41
Speaker 2: fun or fair because she probably knows about whatever Rula's
42:44
Speaker 2: doing with her hair, because at some point maybe Rula
42:47
Speaker 2: has felt comfortable enough to talk about it in a
42:49
Speaker 2: setting of frames. Totally, that was overstepping. However, we come
42:55
Speaker 2: out of this conversation, I'm thinking, Brian, buddy, you're gonna
42:59
Speaker 2: get in this car, and you have talked your way
43:02
Speaker 2: around this and in a lot of ways, goodness gracious,
43:05
Speaker 2: you're kind of good at it. But you're not saying anything.
43:08
Speaker 2: And so if Rula wasn't just so beaten down with
43:13
Speaker 2: her confidence right now. What she should have said to
43:15
Speaker 2: Brian in that car when he said you're doing enough,
43:17
Speaker 2: good enough job for me, was then answer me the
43:20
Speaker 2: question is it done or is it not? Again? I
43:25
Speaker 2: protected you because I love you. Brian, you didn't protect
43:29
Speaker 2: me at all? Correct, Gary, protected Joelle and Joel and
43:31
Speaker 2: protected Gary. You sat there, spun your drink around and
43:36
Speaker 2: stayed quiet. Is this over or is this not? And
43:39
Speaker 2: he refuses to answer that question, which makes me go,
43:45
Speaker 2: it's still going on.
43:46
Speaker 3: That's the answer right there. And I don't know if
43:51
Speaker 3: Rula wants to know the answer really right, I don't know.
43:56
Speaker 2: I mean, you're probably right because.
43:57
Speaker 3: She has again.
43:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, she has mentioned how difficult that would be. It
44:03
Speaker 2: may it It brings out this like level of sadness,
44:09
Speaker 2: you know, to the whole situation that I think she
44:12
Speaker 2: is in a really hard place with a guy who
44:15
Speaker 2: is not being honest with her.
44:18
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'd almost rather him lie like with
44:21
Speaker 3: with like strength to be like no, it's not because
44:25
Speaker 3: he'd be like I don't know.
44:27
Speaker 2: It is so gross, it's so weird, and he's not
44:31
Speaker 2: gonna win this battle. I mean, he is with he
44:33
Speaker 2: is not only like facing the Joellens of the world,
44:36
Speaker 2: who will come out him one hundred miles an hour.
44:39
Speaker 2: Every woman he has, every woman who's going to just
44:42
Speaker 2: start like, yeah, it's it's he is in a h
44:47
Speaker 2: he's in a tough place. Truth will win, though.
44:51
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, how why do you agree to go
44:55
Speaker 3: on this show? And he's like walked into that party
44:58
Speaker 3: like knowing. I don't know. It's bizarre. I understand like
45:01
Speaker 3: women love drama, but like that was crazy.
45:04
Speaker 2: All right? So as we as we finish up this breakdown,
45:12
Speaker 2: we do see a Liz and Kelsey fight that kind
45:15
Speaker 2: of ends the episode. As you said, Liz is having
45:18
Speaker 2: a great time during this party. She's bubbly and happy, uh,
45:22
Speaker 2: and Kelsey makes a kind of backhanded comment to Liz
45:29
Speaker 2: that sets Liz off. Kelsey makes his comment when Liz says,
45:32
Speaker 2: I want to go to the Sea Wall with Dino
45:34
Speaker 2: and Jerry. One kind of a wild thing to say
45:37
Speaker 2: in the midst of all the conversations happening, But that's
45:40
Speaker 2: what Liz is asking for, and Kelsey asks her if
45:43
Speaker 2: she should with the ongoing rumors. This sets Liz off off. Lauren,
45:52
Speaker 2: was this Kelsey being a good friend or was this
45:55
Speaker 2: Kelsey trying to start something.
45:58
Speaker 3: I think this is her being a good friend. I
46:02
Speaker 3: just saw it as her like looking out for her
46:04
Speaker 3: drunk friend who was like I want to be with
46:08
Speaker 3: the guys I love, you know, and like hang out
46:11
Speaker 3: with them together. And then she's like, it's not good.
46:13
Speaker 3: People are already talking about you with Dino. And then
46:17
Speaker 3: Liz flips out and then says something to Kelsey about
46:21
Speaker 3: like what's your relationship with Dino or you know Dino.
46:27
Speaker 3: I don't we don't really understand this whole thing. But
46:30
Speaker 3: then the producer Brian the camera goes what's Kelsey's relationship
46:34
Speaker 3: with Dino? And she goes, You're gonna have to ask Kelsey,
46:36
Speaker 3: And then we're left hanging right.
46:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's it, And there seems like there's again,
46:42
Speaker 2: here's another stream to be tied to the map of
46:46
Speaker 2: what is happening here. Now, all of a sudden, Kelsey
46:48
Speaker 2: has Bill and her other boyfriend, and then Dino somehow
46:51
Speaker 2: is connected to Kelsey as well. Yeah within all this,
46:53
Speaker 2: and Dino's also connected to Liz. But we don't have
46:57
Speaker 2: a conclusion to this. So here's a few storylines, Laura
47:00
Speaker 2: that I think we're going to have to catch up
47:01
Speaker 2: on in the next few episodes. One is how successful
47:05
Speaker 2: is Audrey's actually going to get It's going to be
47:07
Speaker 2: wildly successful. The second storyline here is what is happening
47:12
Speaker 2: with Rula and Brian. Is Brian actually ever going to,
47:16
Speaker 2: you know, fess up or tell the truth and if not,
47:19
Speaker 2: who's going to tell the truth for him? And is
47:21
Speaker 2: he going to have to admit more or less at
47:24
Speaker 2: some point of what's happening, if it's happening or not,
47:28
Speaker 2: he's gonna have to admit what is actually going on.
47:30
Speaker 2: We also need some clarification on the mistress of Brian.
47:38
Speaker 2: Is she going to show up in an episode? Are
47:39
Speaker 2: we going to see her come to an episode? Do
47:42
Speaker 2: you think she will?
47:43
Speaker 3: I don't think she will, okay, Well sider scoop, I don't.
47:47
Speaker 2: Think she will, Okay.
47:48
Speaker 3: I think she's definitely trying to remain anonymous.
47:51
Speaker 2: It would be wildest.
47:52
Speaker 3: Yeah. I wish to like have on those dramatic moments
47:55
Speaker 3: where someone's footsteps out and be like, Oh, it's the
47:57
Speaker 3: Mistress and then seen to black you know, But I
48:00
Speaker 3: don't think it's gonna happen.
48:02
Speaker 2: Dang, final storyline, I think from this episode that we
48:05
Speaker 2: still need clarification on is obviously, what is Kelsey's connection
48:10
Speaker 2: to Dino. Why was that even a thing that was
48:12
Speaker 2: brought up? And how is this Liz and Jerry and
48:18
Speaker 2: Dino situation going to play out? Is it actually a
48:21
Speaker 2: storyline or all three of them in on it and
48:23
Speaker 2: it's just going to get squashed because they're all like, no,
48:26
Speaker 2: this is what happened. We all know what happened. It
48:28
Speaker 2: doesn't hurt any of us, and we're good.
48:31
Speaker 3: Wow. I do know that when Ashley watched this episode,
48:36
Speaker 3: she was surprised to see the fight with Liz and Kelsey.
48:40
Speaker 2: Oh, she didn't know what happened. She interesting, I don't know.
48:45
Speaker 3: Also, another theory with the Dino real quick, I think Dino,
48:48
Speaker 3: Liz and Jerry maybe they had a threesome and they
48:51
Speaker 3: were like, that's gonna be between us too, and that's
48:55
Speaker 3: a secret between them. Could be anyway, little theory there.
48:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, that could be. You know, good friends are closer
49:02
Speaker 2: than others allegedly. I don't need that.
49:06
Speaker 3: I don't need to say that. This is there.
49:09
Speaker 2: In the next episodes, we see a beach day with
49:11
Speaker 2: the girls. Ashley is hilarious as usual, saying all these
49:14
Speaker 2: other girls look like Barbie, you know, beach princesses, and
49:17
Speaker 2: I look like I tried a little bit today. Liz
49:21
Speaker 2: and Kelsey are talking, Liz saying it's all rumors, and
49:25
Speaker 2: Alicia and Rosie get into an argument. Alicia tells Rosie
49:28
Speaker 2: to slow her role and also says you're not hot. Uh,
49:33
Speaker 2: And finally, welcome to Rhode Island.
49:38
Speaker 3: I don't know why anyone could hate Rosie. I just
49:41
Speaker 3: don't get it.
49:43
Speaker 2: There is so much, Lauren to uncover and to continue
49:46
Speaker 2: to watch. Thank you for walking alongside this journey with
49:51
Speaker 2: me is yes, eye opening.
49:53
Speaker 3: I love that you're like along for this ride because
49:56
Speaker 3: like it's just not something you would ever watch. It's
49:58
Speaker 3: so funny. I'm like, is here actually gonna watch this?
50:01
Speaker 2: And you are in it and I'm in it, and
50:05
Speaker 2: it has been something I'm sure my wife is listening
50:08
Speaker 2: to me break this down right now and be like
50:10
Speaker 2: what in the world.
50:11
Speaker 3: And you're so good with the names, like it's hard,
50:14
Speaker 3: like so many people are like messaging me like I
50:17
Speaker 3: can't tell a bart I know that you know it.
50:19
Speaker 3: It's so good.
50:21
Speaker 2: We're watching with a different type of passion because our
50:24
Speaker 2: good friend Ashley, and your sister Ashley is very much
50:30
Speaker 2: involved in doing it in the best of ways. Hey,
50:33
Speaker 2: we'll be back. The Almost Namous Podcast has so many
50:36
Speaker 2: things going on right now. We're supporting all of Bachelor
50:38
Speaker 2: Nation in their pursuits of new television shows. We're breaking
50:41
Speaker 2: down Alex Cooper's show called Unwell Winter Games because Joe
50:47
Speaker 2: and Serena are on that. Also, obviously, Real Housewives Rhode
50:51
Speaker 2: Island will not stop. The Bachelorette may have paused, but
50:57
Speaker 2: we also are continuing. Just finished the Bachelor Mansion Home reno.
51:03
Speaker 2: And then there's one other show that's happening right now
51:07
Speaker 2: with Bachelor people right Aheather.
51:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, we recapped Love Overboard on Hulu, but we're all
51:13
Speaker 3: done on that one. It was a fast watch. Oh
51:17
Speaker 3: Farmer Wants a Wife coming up, that's the next one.
51:20
Speaker 2: Oh, my goodness, Farmer Wants a Wife finished Love Overboard.
51:24
Speaker 2: There's there's been so much happening here at the Almost
51:26
Speaker 2: Famous Podcast, and we're doing it not only to support
51:29
Speaker 2: the Bachelor Nation contestants, but also because listeners, we know
51:36
Speaker 2: you love this stuff as well. So Lauren, thank you
51:40
Speaker 2: for another episode breaking down the Real Housewives of Rhode Island.
51:43
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51:47
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51:49
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