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Blending Chaos And Cinema: GEORGE MARIOS Chases Bigger Sound And Vision · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Speaker 1: My name is George Marius. I'm an anthemic old rock
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  Speaker 1: artist from a small Greek city, but I've been living
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  Speaker 1: in England now for quite some time. And yeah, really
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  Speaker 1: happy to be here with you.
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  Speaker 2: Oh fantastic. I'm so happy to be here with you too,
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  Speaker 2: and just for people just discovering you, How would you
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  Speaker 2: describe who you are as an artist today?
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  Speaker 1: So basically, I mean I filter all my music under
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  Speaker 1: the prism of rock, but it's much more than that,
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  Speaker 1: because I just love a lot of music. I love
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  Speaker 1: orchestral music, I love jazz, So it's I don't try
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  Speaker 1: to set a lot of boundaries when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: the writing, but I do have certain things that I like.
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  Speaker 1: I like big anthemic choruses I tend to I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I have some songs coming out there are a little
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  Speaker 1: bit darker and harder about like the mental health, suicide
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  Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But like generally, I like to
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  Speaker 1: write songs where the underdog just you know, gets their flowers,
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  Speaker 1: because I feel like I feel a little bit like
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  Speaker 1: that navigating the journey of life. You kind of in
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  Speaker 1: many ways feel like an underdog, and I like to
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  Speaker 1: write stuff that like empowering and have a good message
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  Speaker 1: like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. Well this is something I wanted to touch
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  Speaker 2: on later. Actually with Crash Burn, your latest single, I
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  Speaker 2: found that whilst the imagery in the music video it
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  Speaker 2: was quite rough and you know, it had that brutal
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  Speaker 2: raw edge, however, the lyrics you were singing it really
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  Speaker 2: did have a like positive angle to it. It wasn't
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  Speaker 2: all you know, doom and gloom and you know, we'll
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  Speaker 2: get through this, You'll get through this. And yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: really liked that jostaposition.
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  Speaker 1: You appreciate it, Yeah, for sure. Sure. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 1: redemption is always much more impactful if there is a struggle,
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  Speaker 1: you know, So it's that's that's how I see it
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  Speaker 1: kind of with music, you know, with rating.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, beautiful, And just briefly as well, tell us how
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  Speaker 2: you got started in music.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, so I used to actually really not like music.
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  Speaker 1: My mum would used to beg me to have guitar
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  Speaker 1: lessons and I was and I was like, no, Mom,
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  Speaker 1: that's lame. I did ballet actually actually I was a
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  Speaker 1: big boy and I did balt and I also it
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  Speaker 1: was one boy and thirty girls in class. You can
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  Speaker 1: understand me even as a little boy. You know, it was.
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  Speaker 1: It was there's no way I was going to leave
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  Speaker 1: that classroom. But at basically, at around the age of
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  Speaker 1: sixteen ish, fifteen ish kind of, I was going past
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  Speaker 1: my friend's house and he had just bought s and
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  Speaker 1: M the Metallica record with the Orchestra, and I can't
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  Speaker 1: really explain what it was like. I remember this song
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  Speaker 1: it was Wherever I May Roam, and there's a very
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  Speaker 1: particular intro in that record where that has sitar in
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  Speaker 1: the orchestra, and I was just it was that was it,
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  Speaker 1: you know. It was instand was like, what are you listening?
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  Speaker 1: I'm getting this CD. I might bring it back to you,
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  Speaker 1: and that was it. It was. It was kind of
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  Speaker 1: like love at first sight, I guess. So I always
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  Speaker 1: credit Metallica for doing that for me.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: It was it was instant, you know. And then I
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  Speaker 1: was I thought air guitaring was lame, so I said
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  Speaker 1: I might as well just get a guitar and learn.
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  Speaker 1: And then a year later I left to come to
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  Speaker 1: the UK and study.
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  Speaker 2: Me. Wow, just from hearing as like that from Metallica,
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  Speaker 2: it was.
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  Speaker 1: It was I think it was track five, Wherever I'm
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  Speaker 1: in Rome. It was that intro. It just yeah, it
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  Speaker 1: was like transformational experience, honestly.
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  Speaker 2: Crazy, that's crazy. And now I know you are a
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  Speaker 2: singer and a guitarist. Which one came first for you?
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  Speaker 1: Guitar totally. I wanted to, you know, I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: be like a big shred guitar player. You know, when
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  Speaker 1: you're sixteen seventeen, you're like, I want to be the
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  Speaker 1: best in the world. I mean that doesn't exist, but
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  Speaker 1: you know that's the mentality and that I think that
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  Speaker 1: gives you drive and to just spend those ten hours
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  Speaker 1: a day practicing, you know. Yeah, so it was guitar
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  Speaker 1: for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. And what do you remember most about that early
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  Speaker 2: move to Leeds and studying music at such a young.
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  Speaker 1: Age, Well, very great. So the first you have to imagine,
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  Speaker 1: like I was, I was not really an outgoing kid,
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  Speaker 1: so landing and I think and me and my folks
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  Speaker 1: took me to to Manchester. It was great as hell.
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  Speaker 1: And then we went to Leeds and it was great
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  Speaker 1: as hell and in places like quite industrial and stuff,
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  Speaker 1: and where I lived was particularly nice. However, the first
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  Speaker 1: day I went to the college Leads College of Music,
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  Speaker 1: which I studied for a few years, I met my
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  Speaker 1: best friends that I that I stayed with me for
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  Speaker 1: well they're still out, they're not here, unfortunately, they're back
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  Speaker 1: to their respective countries. But yeah, I met so many
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  Speaker 1: beautiful people and that was it. You know, people make
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  Speaker 1: the place, you know, so that's what I remember. I
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  Speaker 1: remember just feeling at home straight away, and just it's
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  Speaker 1: a great adventure. I mean, you know, it's a great thing.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be a challenge, but being on your
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  Speaker 1: own in a new country, and I was always quite
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  Speaker 1: level headed. I just wanted to study, so I didn't
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  Speaker 1: go too crazy. But you know, just the journey of
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  Speaker 1: you know, getting your part time jobs and being financially independent.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a big learning curve, you know. It's
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  Speaker 1: a beautiful, beautiful memories. I love this place. I love leads.
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  Speaker 1: It's a great time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, as you mentioned, you haven't left yet, so
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  Speaker 2: you must really enjoy it.
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  Speaker 1: Which is yeah. I mean I'm in London now, but
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  Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's the same.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm like, Grace sounds really nice, it looks beautiful, but.
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  Speaker 1: You have a lot of Greeks and you're in Melbourne, right.
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  Speaker 2: I'm in so I'm closer to Sydney. I'm in a
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  Speaker 2: rural a.
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  Speaker 1: Couple of from Sydney, Okay, But yeah, I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's there's the lived experience as a I guess
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  Speaker 1: as a person living in a place, and when you
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  Speaker 1: visit a place, it's always a different thing. It's a
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  Speaker 1: beautiful country. Maybe I'll go back one day, but I
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  Speaker 1: just don't see it for the foreseeable future.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, definitely that's understandable. And your guitar work
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  Speaker 2: is often described as imaginative. How did you develop that
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  Speaker 2: style early on?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think generally, and this is something that I tell,
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  Speaker 1: like to to to my students, Like a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the times, like you learn a lot of stuff, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, there's things that you learn as a musician
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  Speaker 1: that are very close to other people's style, and you
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  Speaker 1: do that to shape your your skills and stuff. But
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a very reductive process that like afterwards,
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  Speaker 1: you're going to have to choose to if you want
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  Speaker 1: to sound like yourself, You'll have to make a very
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  Speaker 1: conscious decision to a stop playing some stuff that sound
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  Speaker 1: like other people and also just you. It's it's a
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  Speaker 1: process of like you have to search for that that thing.
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  Speaker 1: Also for me, it was a little bit of an
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  Speaker 1: accident because basically when I was nineteen, I got a
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  Speaker 1: tennis elbowm both hands from practicing the guitar. So that
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  Speaker 1: forced me to change the way I play, which led
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  Speaker 1: into this kind of style that I guess if you
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  Speaker 1: play guitar, you might know my style from like and
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  Speaker 1: that I kind of went all in on that, and
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  Speaker 1: so it was it was an amalgamation of things, but
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  Speaker 1: like generally, like I think it's a the injury and
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  Speaker 1: also just a conscious process like I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: sound like this guy or this guy, so you gotta
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  Speaker 1: let some things go and you know, try to do
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  Speaker 1: your own thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's incredible and I really love that you
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  Speaker 2: were like, no, I really want to find my own sound.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's it's it's it's just comes from
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  Speaker 1: it's almost like I know it sound like silly, but
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  Speaker 1: like why if I sound like someone else, why would
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  Speaker 1: anybody listen to me? That's always been my my thing,
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  Speaker 1: which I don't know if it's smart, but it is
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  Speaker 1: what it is. You know, it's just how I see
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  Speaker 1: things personally, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, that's awesome. And at what point did songwriting
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  Speaker 2: and vocals become just as important to you as playing guitar.
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  Speaker 1: It was I think it was John Mayer. Do you
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  Speaker 1: know John Mayer? Like, uh, yeah, I got the album Continuum.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I got it a thing much later, much
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  Speaker 1: after it came out. But you know, there's a weird
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  Speaker 1: thing also not being native. I mean I speak English
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  Speaker 1: fairly well, but like not being native. Sometimes you listen
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  Speaker 1: to songs and lyrics is just something that comes with
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  Speaker 1: the music. But I started paying attention to lyrics and
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  Speaker 1: just finding writing lyrics and stuff, and I could not
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  Speaker 1: sing at all. It was not a great experience. And
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  Speaker 1: but you know, you sort of get on the path,
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  Speaker 1: you get some help, you you study. You singing is
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  Speaker 1: also about a discovery of yourself because it's your the instrument.
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  Speaker 1: So I can blame John Mayer for that.
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  Speaker 2: No, that's wonderful. Do you know that I have? I
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  Speaker 2: can't sing, but I have. I'm like, you know what,
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  Speaker 2: I'm actually going to give it a go and like try,
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  Speaker 2: And it's so much harder than people who don't sing realize.
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  Speaker 2: Like I was like, oh, there's a certain spot in
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  Speaker 2: your throat that you're meant to sing from and where
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  Speaker 2: to put your tongue and all of this sort of thing,
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  Speaker 2: and yeah, it just blew my mind. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: singing is actually not as easy as people it looks.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think I have one of my
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  Speaker 1: close friends Della he you know, he has his runs
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  Speaker 1: the Nigerian Church in London. So sometimes I'll just go
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  Speaker 1: and jam. I haven't done it in a while, but like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, just for fun, because of a great community
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  Speaker 1: and all that. And there's some kids there that sing
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  Speaker 1: like the butts off, you know, So there is that
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  Speaker 1: kind of thing which I guess I would call it
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  Speaker 1: like the natural singer. Like if you're from a young
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  Speaker 1: age you're singing, you probably without thinking can access those
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  Speaker 1: places and then maybe you get some extra help. And
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  Speaker 1: but like, yeah, it is complicated, especially for hard or
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  Speaker 1: styles like trying to get a bit of that rasp
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  Speaker 1: and stortion and stuff like that. You have to be
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  Speaker 1: like real careful.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's another thing about your singing too, I noticed,
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  Speaker 2: is that you have the ability to go quite soft
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  Speaker 2: and beautiful, almost John Mayer like ish, but also you
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  Speaker 2: can have that rasp and that classic more rock sort
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  Speaker 2: of vocals I think too.
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  Speaker 1: Oh but thank you. Yeah, that's just it's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of you know, a lot of squeezing and a lot
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  Speaker 1: of a lot of frustration and it comes out like that.
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  Speaker 2: I guess, Yeah, no, no, it's beautiful. It works really well,
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  Speaker 2: really well. And looking back, what did you learn from
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  Speaker 2: your first release that you've carried into this next era?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean some lessons I didn't quite learn
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  Speaker 1: because I repeated them again. But I'm kind of stubborn,
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  Speaker 1: so you know, it was really interesting. The first release
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  Speaker 1: was all self produced, self arranged, self a lot stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, I got other musicians to play on it
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  Speaker 1: from my and you know, you just learn a lot
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  Speaker 1: about the process. You learn a lot about recording, You
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  Speaker 1: let a lot. You learn a lot about One of
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  Speaker 1: the most important thing tips that I can tell singers
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  Speaker 1: is if you're going to sing a guide. So let's
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  Speaker 1: say you have a song and you're going to sing
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  Speaker 1: it for the first time, make sure you recorded well
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  Speaker 1: because sometimes singing something for the first time, you have
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  Speaker 1: that excitement and that freshness and you want to capture
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  Speaker 1: it real good. Like there's a lot of things even
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  Speaker 1: on the guitar that I use the demo because there's
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  Speaker 1: something that happens when you say I'm going to record
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  Speaker 1: a demo, you're like, I'm relaxed. It's a demo. I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to go in the studio and do it. But
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  Speaker 1: sometimes in the studio there's other variables that might not
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  Speaker 1: get you in that zone. So I think make sure
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  Speaker 1: your demos are well recorded. That's one thing I'll say.
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  Speaker 1: I was sort of contemplating getting a producer for that
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  Speaker 1: second record, which crush Burn and all my other singles
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  Speaker 1: are sort of part of so far, but I didn't
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  Speaker 1: do this. I'll do it myself again, and I have
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  Speaker 1: to give a shout out to Billy Krubb who mixed it,
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  Speaker 1: who also did some help on their production. But I
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  Speaker 1: think for the third one, once the second one comes out,
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  Speaker 1: I have a couple of names I think I'm probably
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  Speaker 1: going to work with just to get that extra perspective
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  Speaker 1: because it's a lot of work to do it.
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  Speaker 2: On your own. Oh, I can only imagine from what
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  Speaker 2: I've heard from other artists as well. It's so much
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  Speaker 2: goes into it, and I think sometimes I think it's
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  Speaker 2: a great option for artists to, you know, totally retain
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  Speaker 2: control over all of that. However, I also do think
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  Speaker 2: it is very valuable to have other people brought in
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  Speaker 2: and listen to your work and have an outside perspective.
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  Speaker 1: One hundred percent and expertise, you know, like as far
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  Speaker 1: as sound goes, like how can I get that snare
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  Speaker 1: sound or whatever. So I so the third album, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna yeah, I'm going to knock on some doors.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, that's awesome. And your debut explored themes
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  Speaker 2: of struggle and redemption. What did that album represent to
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  Speaker 2: you personally?
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  Speaker 1: It was a way of processing a lot of stuff
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  Speaker 1: that were happening in my family. So that was really
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  Speaker 1: the theme of most of the record really, So which
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  Speaker 1: is good. It's good to have like a little blueprint
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  Speaker 1: of time of what was happening. And and of course,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the people that listen don't have to know it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, songs and ordis direct. I mean there's certain
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  Speaker 1: songs like I love you, I Miss You. I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: you probably love and miss someone. But some songs I
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  Speaker 1: like to write a little bit more. There's a bit
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  Speaker 1: of room for interpretation. But for me, that's what it
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  Speaker 1: was at least, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and we'll talk about crushing burn. What was
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  Speaker 2: the most emotional headspace you're in when writing it.
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  Speaker 1: So the crash Burn, I think it was again navigating
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  Speaker 1: the journey as a as an artist, but I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: in any other you know, you don't have to be
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  Speaker 1: an artist to relate to that. Any anything that, any
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  Speaker 1: struggle in life. You kind of for me, at least,
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  Speaker 1: what it was, I wanted to write a song that
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  Speaker 1: I would want to hear when I'm lowest. So that's
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  Speaker 1: how the song kind of came about. I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we all have our motivational playlist
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  Speaker 1: or whatever. I'm like, Okay, if if if I have
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  Speaker 1: a song like that, what would it be? But it's
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  Speaker 1: my But I wanted to write it, So that's that's
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  Speaker 1: what it was. You know, it just sort of encapsulate
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  Speaker 1: a lot of how I personally feel navigating this path.
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  Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you feel your dream is closed or
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  Speaker 1: is out of reach, and it's just navigating all that
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  Speaker 1: and just making sure that you know.
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  Speaker 2: What.
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  Speaker 1: Like it says on the song, you know, life is
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  Speaker 1: not forgiving to those who wish the storm away. You
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  Speaker 1: can all be afraid of the unknown and going out
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  Speaker 1: of your comfort zone because if your life will not
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  Speaker 1: forgive you meaning you're not You're probably not going to
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  Speaker 1: get what you want. So yeah, I guess that's kind
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  Speaker 1: of a little summary of the emotion behind it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it is for you more like a pick
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  Speaker 2: me up song when you are at your lowers.
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  Speaker 1: Totally. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, I love that.
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  Speaker 2: And you mentioned stepping outside your usual writing instincts for
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  Speaker 2: this track. What did that challenge unlock for you creatively?
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  Speaker 1: I just it felt quite straightforward, So I think I'll
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  Speaker 1: be doing it more often, you know, that's it was.
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  Speaker 1: It's sometimes it's it's cool to write having a goal
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  Speaker 1: in mind, Like things don't just naturally. Sometimes you expect
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  Speaker 1: the idea to come from, you know, the sky or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: but sometimes having a little brief I guess it's it
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  Speaker 1: can be quite useful. That's what as well learned from
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  Speaker 1: that for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and what do you hope listeners take away from it?
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  Speaker 2: Because it is quite like it sounds like it's delivering
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  Speaker 2: a message of resilience.
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  Speaker 1: Really Yeah, I mean to be honest, if someone tells
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  Speaker 1: me that, you know, this is the song I play
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  Speaker 1: whenever I go through like hard training or wherever I
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  Speaker 1: feel I'm waking up and I'm getting up and I
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  Speaker 1: want to go seize the day that I'll be. I'll
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  Speaker 1: be I'll be a happy, happy guy.
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  Speaker 2: That's wonderful and musically there are hints of altar, bridge,
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  Speaker 2: stream theater, and extreme. How consciously do those influencers shape
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  Speaker 2: your sound?
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  Speaker 1: I think it just happens, probably process of osmosis, so
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  Speaker 1: you listen to stuff and they just come out, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I oftentimes really struggle describing what my songs sound like,
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  Speaker 1: because like with Your Heart, for example, which is the
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  Speaker 1: previous single, the intro sounded like it could be a
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Buckley, So not vocally I'm nowhere near Jeff Buckley
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  Speaker 1: is amazing, but like I'm talking about just the music,
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  Speaker 1: the atmosphere. But then the chorus is really big. So
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  Speaker 1: but with that, it was just three artists that really
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  Speaker 1: I feel like kind of if you put them in
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  Speaker 1: a blender, in a nutrib bullet and then make it smoothie,
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: you get like blend that kind of thing, you know.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree, And the crash Burned video has
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: a real cinematic feel. What was it like taking on
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: a DIY project of that scale?
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, I mean it was a bit scary.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: I have to give a lot of props to my
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: dear friend John Solberg, who's a GOP director of photography,
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: and we he knows me. He knows I like things big,
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: like I don't like I want it was my dream
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: to have. I wanted to make three, four or five
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: videos that looked like they were they could be in
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: a movie, you know, but I didn't believe. Yeah I didn't.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: But I didn't have the expertise, but I had the
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: desire and passion. So in the beginning I was a
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: little bit apprehensive. But he just looked at me, you know,
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: we had a meeting and said, look, you're just go
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: wherever you want to go, and like you can do it.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: And and he obviously was a big help. But yes,
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: I just did a bit of studying because I wore
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: a lot of hats for that video. Because for all
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: the videos, but like this one, like I wrote, I directed,
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: or produced, I edited, so a lot of the stuff
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: I didn't know. So you know, you did a little
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: bit of studying and you have you do the preparation
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: and and obviously having an amazing team helped. So got
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: a lot of great people to work on it. And yeah,
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: I mean it was very stressful because We had like
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: literally about an hour to do the fight scene. I mean,
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: the owner of the dojo that we used was outside
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: like like this waiting. He was fine in the end,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: like it's so good, you know he But yeah, it was.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: It was my dream, Like, honestly, I would love to
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: get more involved like creating like visual stories, and I yeah,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: I'm so happy with it. It was one of the
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: few things in my life that I've done so far
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: that I was like this, Actually I couldn't. I couldn't
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: change anything. I love it.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: You know, it's seriously incredible. It is very very like professional.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: It's yeah, absolutely incredible that you've managed to pull that
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: one off. Was there a moment during filming where you thought,
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: what have I gotten myself into?
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Oh? Boy? There was a few, But see, the great
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: thing because we got a really great team and those
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: people you know, like young shoots all the time, other
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: people that they know that, like, you can be so
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: prepared for a shoot, but it's still going to go wrong.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: So like, we wanted to rig lights. The guy said
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: there was a ladder. The ladder was not high enough
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: to rig the lights. So I went to a car wash.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: I got a huge ledder which almost killed me because
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: he was so heavy and the ladder was a fitting
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: in the building, so we had to put who had
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: to put boxes and then somebody volunteered to get on
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: the ladder on the boxes. I think it was Will
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: who was a trooper to rig the lights. Stuff like that.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: You know, obviously also not shooting in a controlled environment,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: like if you want to get outside shots and you
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: know the weather, you have to settle for whatever you get.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: So it was leaning, but thankfully then it stopped. So
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: you have to be flexible and you have to be
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: very well prepared. You have to be over prepared. So
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: if any artist that hasn't done this before and they
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: want to go on this journey, which I recommended one
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: hundred percent, you have to be over prepared because it's
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: full of challenges.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: I like that. I like that nothing perfect comes out
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: of everything going off without a hitch? Does it like
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: that something has to go slightly wrong?
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, that's that's the space of it.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And what was your inspiration for the music video
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: as well? Yeah?
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: I mean I think it's quite If anybody sees it,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: they'll be like it's karate kid, which is too like
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: rock karate Kid one hundred percent. I used to get
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: because I used to be obviously a big boy and
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: good at school, so I used to get picked on
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: quite a lot. So you know, for me, it was
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: like I want to do that. I want to do
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: like Little David Goliath kind of story. And cinematically, there's
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: a movie I'm not sure if you watch it. Have
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: you watched the movie monkey Man, which is Dave dev Patel.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: I haven't, but I know of it.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: It's a great film. So esthetically it's like it's not
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: just an action film, it's like a really deep social commentary.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: But like the way he filmed it, Like me and
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Young both watched it in the cinema like a week
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: or two before the shooting were like, that's the style,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Like it gives it as the blueprint for the style.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: So it's yeah, it's definitely like KARATIICUD, but I guess
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: in terms of like the aesthetics, it's just a little
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: bit more cinematic. Yeah, not poping on KARATQUD, but it
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: just looks more like a modern film, you know, more
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: like that.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, definitely definitely and Accident until Hero is
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: on the horizon, How would you say this album evolves
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: your sound compared to death deal.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: It's it's definitely more layered. There's a lot of more
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: orchestral arrangement. There's some songs, uh that like there's a
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: song there that sounds like Kimbra who she's Australian or
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: New Zealand. It's New Zealand.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: She could be Australian.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: But I know, yeah, well you guys are family. But
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: so there are some songs that are a little bit more,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: like have a more electronic blueprint. It's just more it's
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: more diverse as far as sound goes. I really wanted
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: to step it up vocally, and yeah, it's it's just
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: a bit more. It's just small layered, I guess. And
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: I think the production is is better, you know, for sure.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: So it sounds a bit crisper. But at the same
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: time I didn't I didn't kind of want to be
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: I feel like with a little music nowadays, it's all
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: you feel like you're hearing the same thing. What I
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: mean by that is like, you know, the drums sell
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: kind of replaced and it's all very clean, which is fine.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, I like, I love that kind of sharp,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: polish production. I like it to be a little bit
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: have that a little bit of organic element and maybe
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: sound of the MiG when singing so it's not completely clean,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: or the drum kids sounding a little bit more like
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: a drum kit or like a separate snare kick. I'm
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: getting a bit too nerd anyone, but anyway, that was
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: the goal anyways, to have a modern production that sounds
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: a little bit more I guess organic.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Like I love that. I absolutely love that, and I
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: totally agree. And this is maybe why I like the
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: kind of genre that I do like, which is heavier
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: sort of rock music, alternative. All of that sort of
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: thing is because usually there is some layer of imperfectness
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: to it, whether it be you know, as you mentioned,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: hearing in the microphone or a bit more of a
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: tinnier drum or something. Yeah, I love how you just
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: captured that. Then I never really thought about it like that,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: but I think that's why I'm drawn to music like
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: that is because it is more organic.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there is that space for the humanity. I guess
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: I'm not pooping on other styles or it's a tasting
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: and sometimes it really works, but I don't know. And
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: if you if you listen to like Adele, for example,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: like singing her records, which is a completely different style,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: but you can hear the in the you to hear
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: that in the mouth, and yeah, same goes with vocals.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's some of my vocals on the new
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: record that is a little bit you know, not on
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: the grid. But that's okay, it's it's not that was
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: that was just I guess part of the brief or
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: the process. But we'll see, we'll see when it comes out,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: he tell me.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, so excited. And I know, except for release
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: this year, do we have any more consolidational maybe when
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: it might be released.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Well, being a music video addict, now I'm planning and
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: doing two more so a lot of it will depend
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: on when I can get them together. But I'm hoping
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: for a release some late summer because I also want
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: to see how there's a It's not so easy to
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: print vinyls anymore, so I wanted to talk with a
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: few plants for vinyls, so at least I'm not gonna
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: have a bunch for pre order and then I can
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: sort of time. But I'm hoping for late late summer
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: for sure.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Awesome and finally it's accidental Hero leaves listeners with one
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: lasting feeling or idea. What do you want that to be?
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Just carpe diem, you know, seese the day, Just follow
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: follow your heart. And it sounds cheesy, but it's it's
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: just even if what you want to do you might
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: seem impossible or hard, at least try it. You know.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: That's that's what I'll what I'd like them to do
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: to get out of it.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: I guess that's wonderful. And George, was there anything else
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: you would like to discuss, talk about or say to fans? Uh?
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: No, I mean I would like to thank you for
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: this beautiful conversation. People can follow me on on socials.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Most of my handles is are George Mario's official and yeah, no,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: I appreciate the conversation. I had a lot of fun.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: No, of course, and we can't wait to say everything
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: more from you. We're so excited. Thank you so much
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: for your time today.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Thank you. I really appreciate it.