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Furness Show 8-24: Mariners and Seahawks reaction, Hugh Millen, Mollywhop Monday · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: No from the Star Rentals Sports to Jordan ninety three
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  Speaker 1: point three KJRFMS sports.
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  Speaker 2: Headline Headline's back to by Frost Brewed cors Light Choose Chill.
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  Speaker 2: A rough weekend for the Seahawks. They lost their second
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  Speaker 2: preseason game. They don't care about that, but they do
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  Speaker 2: care about the following. Rookie safety Bud Clark broke his
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  Speaker 2: leg yesterday and that lost to Tennessee. Backup offensive lineman
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  Speaker 2: Mason Richmond suffered what the team believes to be a
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  Speaker 2: major long term knee injury Friday. Wide receiver Jake Boble
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  Speaker 2: leg injury. He is done for the year as well.
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  Speaker 3: Good news.
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  Speaker 2: Drew Locke looked sharp early in the preseason. Jalen Miller,
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  Speaker 2: although not so much. We'll talk about that with you,
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  Speaker 2: Milling at twelve twenty. Marriers were crushed by the Cubs
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  Speaker 2: Sunday nineteen to two. They did win two and of
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  Speaker 2: three in the series, walk off wins Friday and Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: Leo Revos and Randy Rosearena were just getting it done
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  Speaker 2: for them, really kind of highlight of the weekend. Kate
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  Speaker 2: Anderson on Saturday was great until he left him in
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  Speaker 2: too long.
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  Speaker 3: More on that.
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  Speaker 2: During malil WT Monday at one forty nine. Ers owner
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  Speaker 2: and CEO Jed York arrested in Ohio this weekend. Pleaded
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  Speaker 2: no contest and misdemeanor charges of disorderly conduct and possessing
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  Speaker 2: criminal tools. He was sentenced to two days in the
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  Speaker 2: Columbia County Jail with credit for one day order to
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  Speaker 2: pay eleven hundred and fifty dollars in fines. Sounder stapped
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  Speaker 2: in eight game losing streak and Cincinnati drawing one to
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  Speaker 2: one with a late equalizer from Kilani Kosa Rienzi, and
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  Speaker 2: the NWNBA Storm got blown out by Dallas Wings ninety
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  Speaker 2: two to seventy. There now seven and thirty one of
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  Speaker 2: the year. We got a lot to get to. The
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  Speaker 2: hum Ellins going to join us here in about seventeen
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  Speaker 2: eighteen minutes time a little hardcore football preseason edition on Monday,
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  Speaker 2: So looking forward to that coming up with our guy
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  Speaker 2: at twelve twenty Hugh Millon, nobody does it better a
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  Speaker 2: lot to get to with him. Wild game yesterday in
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  Speaker 2: the sense that guys were hurts. A couple big injuries
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  Speaker 2: for Seattle early like first offensive series, first defensive series.
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  Speaker 2: That's on the heels of Jake Bobo getting knocked out
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  Speaker 2: for the season on Friday in the Friday.
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  Speaker 3: In the joint practice.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Friday in the joint practice and.
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  Speaker 3: Mixed results.
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  Speaker 2: But the good news is your second team offense against
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  Speaker 2: the first team defense for Tennessee looked really good. At
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  Speaker 2: least first two or three series. After that, it was
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  Speaker 2: basically NFL preseason. That's pretty much what it was after that.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll talk about that a little bit coming up
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  Speaker 2: as well. The local baseball team, Oh yes, the local
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  Speaker 2: baseball team. Boy did they have a weekend. And the results,
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  Speaker 2: at least in terms of the series good. They took
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  Speaker 2: two out of three from the Cubs. Really good. Happy
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  Speaker 2: about that. We should all be happy about that. We
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  Speaker 2: are all happy about that. So that was good news.
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  Speaker 2: The good news was that the bad news yesterday another
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  Speaker 2: one of those days that you ask yourself, what.
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  Speaker 3: In the hell is going on?
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  Speaker 2: The Other thing is the Kate Anderson debut on Saturday
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  Speaker 2: was for a long time something that you could even
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  Speaker 2: write a script for, and then they left him in
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  Speaker 2: inexplicably and not just one batter too long, three batters
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  Speaker 2: too long, at least as much as it may be
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  Speaker 2: just the the inning itself.
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  Speaker 4: It was.
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  Speaker 2: I like Dan Wilson a lot. I like Dan Wilson.
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  Speaker 2: I We're not buddies by any means, but my interactions
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  Speaker 2: with him have always I just I everything you hear
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  Speaker 2: about Dan Wilson to me that I my interactions are true.
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  Speaker 2: One of the nicest human beings in sports on the planet.
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  Speaker 3: Good dude Mariner.
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  Speaker 2: You know, legend and all those types of things. But man,
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  Speaker 2: hard to defend, sometimes so hard to defend. And you
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  Speaker 2: and then you see why people get upset. You see
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  Speaker 2: why people are are not happy with you know, the
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  Speaker 2: decisions in game. And Saturday was was that epic one?
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  Speaker 2: Now a Rose rain of ailed them out? Three run bomb.
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  Speaker 2: What a weekend he had? Oh man, what a weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Where would this team be without Randy Rose, Arena and
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  Speaker 2: Revoss this weekend of all things and Western Wilson. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: but it works. That's that's the beautiful thing about that sport.
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  Speaker 2: You know, like you can you can have you know,
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  Speaker 2: you don't see non the best players in other sports
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  Speaker 2: aren't usually the ones that step up and make a
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  Speaker 2: difference on on occasion. In the NHL, A guy four
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  Speaker 2: flying Guy, Jacob malonsno bang a goal and I can't
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  Speaker 2: believe how they get that one. The Monson scored great.
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  Speaker 2: You don't see it much in basketball because guys that
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  Speaker 2: are deeper, not stars, aren't playing, certainly not in crunch
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  Speaker 2: time baseball, though. You you're up, it's your turn. There's
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  Speaker 2: no we can't double double hit a guy. Randy's the
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  Speaker 2: only guy you want to do that with right now. Maybe,
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  Speaker 2: but you can't do that. See, you have guys unlikely
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  Speaker 2: hero step up. I love it for Revos Man, that
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  Speaker 2: poor dude up and down, up down DFA blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 2: They would be in a worldhard if not for his
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  Speaker 2: performance over the weekend. But Randy was special the moment
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  Speaker 2: leadoff home run yesterday and that was that came on
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  Speaker 2: the heels of just absolute carring an entire team on
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  Speaker 2: his shoulders on Saturday. Six straight, twenty twenty seasons, twenty
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  Speaker 2: home runs, twenty stolen bases. That doesn't happen in baseball,
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  Speaker 2: except for it has happened like six times. And he's
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  Speaker 2: number six. And you look at the names of the
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  Speaker 2: guys that have done it, Bonds and Bonds, that's two
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  Speaker 2: of them, and it's Barry and his dad, Bobby A
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  Speaker 2: bray you guys like dad. Good for Randy. He also
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  Speaker 2: knows we'll talk about this in the MOI Wop. There's
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  Speaker 2: a little foreshadowing he when he before he picked up
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  Speaker 2: the trident and you know, pumped it up and did
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  Speaker 2: all that stuff. He's holding up five fingers on one
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  Speaker 2: and one finger on the other, four fingers and a
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  Speaker 2: thumb and the six in his two hands six straight times.
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  Speaker 2: He also he's making some money next year. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he is making some money next year. But in the meantime, see,
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna try to ride this dude all the way.
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  Speaker 2: They're gonna they're gonna try to ride that big thorough
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  Speaker 2: bed right all the way, the finish line man, because
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  Speaker 2: that's they need him right now because the other Thoroughbread
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  Speaker 2: hitting under one sixty now and I know the home run,
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  Speaker 2: I get it, great, super col Great, good for you.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's there's there's no words anymore for cal They
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  Speaker 2: just aren't. You're gonna run into a ball every now
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  Speaker 2: and then. Great, that's it. So he's giving you. But
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  Speaker 2: Kate Anderson gave you a glimpse of a guy that
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  Speaker 2: is going to be probably really special, really really special.
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  Speaker 2: So that was damn cool along the way. We'll get
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  Speaker 2: into that more with Mulliwan Monday coming up at one o'clock.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, four nine four five one Out is
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  Speaker 2: Takoma Dodge text line four nine four five one to
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  Speaker 2: Koma Dodge text line your thoughts, comments, questions, concerns before
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  Speaker 2: Hugh joins us in a couple of minutes. The Seahawk
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  Speaker 2: game yesterday, preseason or not that fall on what happened
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  Speaker 2: earlier in the day at Team Mobile. Just felt like, God,
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  Speaker 2: what a Seattle weekend. For every bit of good you
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  Speaker 2: had to have some bad, right you can. We can't
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  Speaker 2: have good things all the way through. For as great
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  Speaker 2: as Cade was and the two wins on Saturday for
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  Speaker 2: the Mariners, they left portkid Anderson in too long the bullpen.
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  Speaker 2: I guess they were saving it for yesterday, although that
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  Speaker 2: didn't happen because we had a position player pitch again
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  Speaker 2: and you just got boat raced. And I know the
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  Speaker 2: scores the stars got totally indicative of what happened, but
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  Speaker 2: it's close. Bryce Miller was bad, so good and bad
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  Speaker 2: mixed results. That's exactly what happened with the Seahawks and
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  Speaker 2: Tennessee Mike McDonald said, Hey, we got some great work
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  Speaker 2: in the joint practice, but the cost of your number
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  Speaker 2: five wide receiver, who was a key guy in special
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  Speaker 2: teams and a key guy in terms of the blocking
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  Speaker 2: schemes that they liked to run with wide receivers, your
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  Speaker 2: best blocking wide receiver, they lose him for the season
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  Speaker 2: in Jake Bubble. Then you get to the game yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: first series, Mason Richard's gonna make this football team. By
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  Speaker 2: the way, he is one of your backup offensive linemen. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: no more, probably out for the year.
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  Speaker 3: Waiting to hear.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't checked in the second but I'm assuming probably
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  Speaker 2: out for the year. Significant knee injury. That never sounds good,
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  Speaker 2: so he's probably done as well. And then man, Bud Clark,
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  Speaker 2: we just had him on the show. I want to say, God,
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  Speaker 2: I had him on the show. I think it was
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  Speaker 2: two weeks ago to day. I had him on the show.
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  Speaker 2: Bud Clark, great guy, great dude, unbelievable. Just one of
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  Speaker 2: my favorite interviews I've done it training camp ever and
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  Speaker 2: I've been doing that.
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  Speaker 3: For almost twenty years. Out there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, great, and just't like got a family and everything.
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  Speaker 2: He's still getting paid, so he's going to be, you know,
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  Speaker 2: on the streets. But his rookie year comes an end
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  Speaker 2: before he even steps foot on a field in the
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  Speaker 2: regular season. He breaks his ankle. He's done. I don't
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  Speaker 2: can't imagine again. I'll double check here in a second.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know I they've announced anything, but I'm assuming
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  Speaker 2: he's going on a season ending injured reserve and all
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  Speaker 2: of a sudden, you're getting really thin at a couple spots.
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  Speaker 2: Now it's not your starters. Clark's a borderline starter, but
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  Speaker 2: you drafted him where you drafted him because you expected
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  Speaker 2: him to make an impact this season. You expected him
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  Speaker 2: he was one of your key off seeds. That's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: He's one of your key off season additions. And he's
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  Speaker 2: out for the year more than likely just a bummer.
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  Speaker 2: The two offense was great against the one defense for
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  Speaker 2: the Tennessee Titans when you're just shoving it on Jeffrey Simmons,
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  Speaker 2: except for the one play where he decided to just
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  Speaker 2: kind of make a fool out of Christian Haynes. Outside
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  Speaker 2: of that, I mean, great job. Locke was good a Royal.
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  Speaker 2: We've seen him be really good in training camp. And
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  Speaker 2: Elijah Royole gets that thirty six yard touchdown, which was cool.
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  Speaker 2: Jacartia right sixty nine yard run. We last year before
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  Speaker 2: he got hurt in the preseason, he was having a
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  Speaker 2: hell of a camp. I'm gonna ask you, Hugh a
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  Speaker 2: little bit about him because I know Hugh's watched every
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  Speaker 2: one of Emmanuel Wilson's carries. There's the limited amount of
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  Speaker 2: data available for Right makes it a little hard to
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  Speaker 2: do that for him. But they're kind of similar in
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  Speaker 2: terms of size, six feet two twenty type backs.
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  Speaker 3: You saw it.
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  Speaker 2: You saw Jacartier write pull away. Yeah, also great blocking. God,
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  Speaker 2: just thing of beauty. Thing of beauty. Really cool to see.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't like to see the Yeah, the injury soon. None
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  Speaker 2: of that was good. All Right, we'll take a break.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to come back when check in with Hugh
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  Speaker 2: Millen Hardcore Football Monday Edition. We'll see what we can
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  Speaker 2: glean from what happened last night. That's with Hugh coming up.
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  Speaker 3: Next your home for the twelfth Man in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: here's you with the Inverness on Sports Radio ninety three
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  Speaker 1: point three KJR FM.
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  Speaker 2: We got two more of these hardcore football preseason edition
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  Speaker 2: and then the real stuff starts seventeen game NFL season.
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  Speaker 2: But nobody, I'd rather talk to you about what happened
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  Speaker 2: last night in Tennessee than my friend Hugh Millen. Hardcore football.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody does it better, he joins us. Right now, Hello, sir,
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  Speaker 2: how are you?
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  Speaker 3: I am Will? Thanks for the nice words.
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  Speaker 2: Did you guys do joint practices when you played? Was
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  Speaker 2: that a thing? Was it more of a thing back then?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? It was more of a thing. And I kind
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  Speaker 3: of sat down thought through my career, I jotted down
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  Speaker 3: ten all different teams, but I probably missed a couple. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: probably a dozen or so. Like in fact, Yeah, and
• 11:52
  Speaker 3: a brawl between the Eagles and the Falcons. Imagine Buddy
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  Speaker 3: Ryan and Jerry Glanville as the respected head coaches the
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  Speaker 3: Philadelphia and acchoir whatever called it a full scale professional
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  Speaker 3: brawl lasting five minutes, and twenty years later, in twenty ten,
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  Speaker 3: they wrote an article about how that particular scrimmage changed
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  Speaker 3: the how the NFL ruled on on scrimmages. So yeah,
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  Speaker 3: what I did, what I what I described and was
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  Speaker 3: part of if I, if I, if I explained it,
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  Speaker 3: you'd think I was exaggerating, And even after half an hour,
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  Speaker 3: it still wouldn't be the extent of what you saw.
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  Speaker 2: I'm I'm just thinking those two coaches here, like, I mean, god,
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  Speaker 2: you got to be kidding.
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  Speaker 3: That's that was?
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  Speaker 2: Did you go into that? Did you guys go in
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  Speaker 2: there when you were with Atlanta?
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  Speaker 3: It was making Georgia. It was making Georgia, and the
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  Speaker 3: eagles flew down, and and it was all for one purpose.
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  Speaker 3: And like I remember, remember that that safety muddy dirty
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  Speaker 3: waters Yep, yep, you know he he. I remember him
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  Speaker 3: just saying, before you know why we're here, you know
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  Speaker 3: why we're here, you know what this is about. And
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  Speaker 3: I was young, I was cool. I wasn't quite sure
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  Speaker 3: what he meant. I figured it out soon thereafter. Man,
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  Speaker 3: it was god. Yeah. And then the coaches they they
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  Speaker 3: was they sat with their feet up, eating popcorn, and
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  Speaker 3: they watched the entire brawl. They wanted to see who
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  Speaker 3: really had fight in them, who.
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  Speaker 2: Had the dog in them? You know type of things.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, they took it to absurd lengths. I'm want
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  Speaker 2: to get to some lots of thoughts on last night
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  Speaker 2: in a second. I do you know, I heard Mike
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  Speaker 2: McDonald post game yesterday, and you know, one of the
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  Speaker 2: things he said was, you know, he's talking about the
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  Speaker 2: weekend and you know, the days in Tennessee, and he says,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he was very happy the positive work that
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  Speaker 2: the starters got out of the joint practice. And I
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  Speaker 2: guess you know, because people are going to look and say, well,
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  Speaker 2: Jake Bobo got hurt, and was it really that good
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  Speaker 2: or positive? Well, a guy guy could get hurt at
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  Speaker 2: the vMac, right at the Virginia Mason Athletic Center and
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  Speaker 2: and what have you? Do you believe that it's it's
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  Speaker 2: beneficial and more importantly, Hugh, since they did that joint
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  Speaker 2: practice with the starters, we don't expect to see him
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  Speaker 2: on Friday. Do you think you can get enough work in,
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  Speaker 2: especially for a quarterback, Sam Darld, you played this position.
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  Speaker 2: You're nobody better asse than you in a joint practice
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  Speaker 2: before a regular season game.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think for the starters, that's where they get
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  Speaker 3: the bulk of their work because you know, you can
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  Speaker 3: control that the quarterback isn't going to get hit. If
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  Speaker 3: you don't want to tackle, you can say okay, we're
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  Speaker 3: what's called thud tempo. Everybody's hitting and what have you.
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  Speaker 3: But but but they're not, you know, tackling them to
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  Speaker 3: the ground if you don't want to all the time.
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  Speaker 3: So so yeah, I think it's really via. I think
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  Speaker 3: it's it's well worth it. As you point out, at
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  Speaker 3: some point, you could get hurt in anything. And oddly
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  Speaker 3: I've kind of gathered the opinion over the last I
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  Speaker 3: don't know, twenty thirty years that there's more serious injuries
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  Speaker 3: in non content act than there are in contact. You
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  Speaker 3: just look at knees popping and achilles popping and really
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  Speaker 3: really the worst of the lower body injuries anyways they
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  Speaker 3: have they seem to happen again without the contact. So
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  Speaker 3: I don't know that you can constrain that. I would
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  Speaker 3: just say right now, I think there's more banged up
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  Speaker 3: bodies than Mike McDonald would have wanted. You throw the
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  Speaker 3: Tory Horton in there, Robbie Ootz, you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: there's Robbi oots Is out, you know, So you got
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  Speaker 3: four guys that you thought would be I mean, let's
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  Speaker 3: go a minimal standard guys who would have been dressing
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  Speaker 3: on the fifty three man squad yes, and or you
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  Speaker 3: know even even active on the forty seven, forty six whatever,
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  Speaker 3: So that would have you know, constituted disappointment. I guess
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  Speaker 3: the soult you know, the graces is knock on wood
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  Speaker 3: that you haven't had you know, one of your top
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  Speaker 3: you know, ten, fifteen to twenty players hurt.
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  Speaker 2: That's yeah, that's that's the only thing right now that's
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  Speaker 2: in terms of the because your your depth is taking
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  Speaker 2: a hit. Your starters yet to take that hit, which
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  Speaker 2: I guess would be the good news. It's it's hardcore football.
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  Speaker 2: It's humulling, all right. One of the things we talked
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  Speaker 2: about last week, and this is where I want to
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  Speaker 2: start with. Yesterday you were putting a keen eye on
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  Speaker 2: new offensive coordinator Brian Fleury and a lot of things
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  Speaker 2: having to do with just how he calls a game
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  Speaker 2: tempo one of those things. Let's just I thought it
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  Speaker 2: was a great test your two offense against the one offense,
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  Speaker 2: one defense for Tennessee. Some cat named Jeffrey Simmons, who's
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  Speaker 2: really good at football, is sitting there in the middle
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  Speaker 2: of that defensive line. Cody Bartons are starting, Mike linebacker former.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they got their starters out there, only there's
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  Speaker 2: only like eight guys that didn't play for them, and
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  Speaker 2: none of those guys are dude. So you get the
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  Speaker 2: kickoff your first drive, Hugh is seven plays, seventy four
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  Speaker 2: yards the touchdown by Royal from Drew Lock. But you
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  Speaker 2: had three first downs before you had that touchdown, that
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  Speaker 2: thirty six yard touchdown along the way. Were you able
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  Speaker 2: to glean much from at least maybe even the first
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  Speaker 2: two drives all of the second when ended on a
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  Speaker 2: sixty nine yard touchdown. We'll get to Jacardi a right
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  Speaker 2: in a minute.
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  Speaker 3: But were you.
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  Speaker 2: Able to see much difference, much better much get a
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  Speaker 2: feel for Flurry calling a game?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I think that it. There was fewer things that seemed
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: objectionable to me. You know you mentioned that first that
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: first drive. When I watched Drew Lock on the television.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: You know, I could piece together like what the routes
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: are kind of like from the television, But I don't
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: waste a lot of time. I wait till I can
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: see the All twenty two tape. And I I thought
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: Drew Lock was better watching the All twenty two tape
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: than I had thought watching TV because when I see
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: him get to his his his swing when he starts
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: left to right and he goes like a sprinkler, you know,
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: from all the way across, and then he throws the
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: swing route on a check swing to the right side.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: I know that's the fifth guy in the progression. And
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: but I've seen enough times where where I'll look and say, oh,
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: that that can be a good thing. Hey, great job
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: get you know, getting around and and and having your
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: feet set and and get into your fifth progression quickly.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: But sometimes you you wheel past open receivers. Hasselbeck would
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: say that that was one of his problems sometimes that yeah,
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: he get to his third or fourth guy quickly. But
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: then he come back and he watched the tape and
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: he go, damn, he goes, I you know, I went,
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: I blew by number two and I and there was
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: really a chance there. So you have to watch that keenly.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: And I thought he'd made good decisions in that regard,
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: and you know, things were Chris getting out, he wasn't
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: going to take any sacks. And then and then you
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: got to give some credit to Brian Fleury on that
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: touchdow pass because you motion the tight end over and
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: you create a you know, you're in twelve personnel. You
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: got two tight ends to the left, you got two
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: receivers to the right, So there's some personnel there that
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: Tennessee has to process. You running two seams, so you're
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: you're holding the post safety in the middle. But because
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: of the motion and what have you, and you do
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: what's called power pass where you pull Christian Haynes the
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: right guard and you do enough play action in on
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: that the that play action attached with the shift in
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: touch with the personnel and a wing formation. Now, all
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: of a sudden, when you have the sight at the
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: tight end, turn Scott free. Uh and and you know,
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: probably the corner should have taken him. There are some
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: defenses where the corner and the safety can communicate in
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: the in the corner contribute to the flat, and the
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: safety can carry the seam. So I don't want to
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: say with one hundred percent uh certainty that that's what
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: they were supposed to do, but I would I would
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: bet that that's what they needed to do. Was the
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: corner take the seam and and the safety take the flat.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: But they both took the flat. They they busted on
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: the scene. But I think all of the the components
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: that I describe are worth mentioning because that all of
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: those things are potentially what caused the miscommunication.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah it was, you know, or I just said, and
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: this is why I like having you on because we've
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: we've done this a long time. Oftentimes this is a
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: term that's thrown out there, but it doesn't apply blown coverage.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: I'll let you speak to that. Yeah, there's varying levels
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: of of of different coverage mistakes, you know. You know
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: there's there's poor coverage where you just say, okay, guys
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: knows what is responsibility is. It's a good coverage. It's
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: a good coverage for the personnel, the formation, what have you.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: Everybody's kind of doing their job, but they just don't
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: do it quite well enough. Okay. Then then you could
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: have a misguided coverage where you say, okay, that coverage
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: against that personnel, that formation. Yeah, you could make it work.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: It's but it doesn't. It's just you know, it's it's unsound, right,
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: you know, it would be the way that we describe it.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: It's unsound. You know, you're playing a cover two catch. Uh,
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: you know, you're letting the corner trigger trigger too too
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: quickly on the flat and in so doing that safety
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: man he's got Yeah, he could get there, but that's
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: a long way to go. And and against that quarterback,
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: that's that just seems unsound to me, Like if you
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: do that enough, you're not you know, So that's the
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: second layer. The third lever layer is blown coverage. Blown
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: coverage is there's that they they turn somebody loose, whether
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: it's a zone or whether it's a blown coverage, could
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: be man and man, you don't communicate and somebody's running
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: wide open and literally you haven't ascribed anybody to them.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: And or in zone coverage, you know, two guys are
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: doing one zone and nobody's doing the other zone because
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: they didn't communicate. And so so that was a blown coverage.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: And you know, the worst kind of coverage mistake or
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: poor coverage that you can have of the three that
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: I just described. And but you'd say, okay, did the
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: offense do anything to induce a blown coverage, because that's
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: what you're trying to do, you know, you know, when
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: you when you when you go full court press in basketball,
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: you're trying to get him to have a traveling call
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: or you know, right like you're trying to induce So
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: so when they do a traveling you say, yeah, that's
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: the reason why we're doing it, you know, and and
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: so uh and so will you do a lot of
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: the communication, you know, the the shifts, the motions, the
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: power you know, the particular type of play action, because
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: a lot of different play actions you could do. But
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: but you say, okay, do we marry that formation? Uh
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: with the play action as again, okay, what's power pass
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: where you're you're you have the left side of the
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: line in this case where the two tight ends were
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: kind of blocking down and then the right guards kicking out,
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: and so it looks more like a run play. Had
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: you had you had you had you faked a zone
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: blitz or excuse me, a zone running play. Then then
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: everybody's kind of going, you know, goes forward for a second,
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: you know, and then you know, stands up in blocks.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: But but you don't get the uh, the quite the
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: bite on with the defenders. You know that that hook defender,
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: that that linebacker just stepped up because he sees the
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: run action, you know. And to that end, Bill Wats
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: once said, if you want to run play action, you
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: got to pull a guard and and you and and
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: that be power passed, that would be trap passed, that
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: would be counters. You know, where you pull a guard
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: from one side behind the center and over to the
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: other side. That's where you really get the bite on
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: the linebackers. And that's what you had on that that
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: touchdown pass to a Royal.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: I'm curious two things, both tight end related. You talked
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: about the formation and maybe this is something that has
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: happened in the past, but you mentioned the two tight
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: ends on one side and then two receivers on the
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: other right, So is that new. Is that something that
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: that they did last year under Clint Kubiak.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: And that yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's just a formation.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: So you're in twelve personnel, so you got a single
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: running back and and you could have, yeah, you could
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: have you could have both tight ends on on one
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: side and then and then a receiver there and then
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: you have a trips with with kind of a wing
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: set if you do it like they did, where you say, okay,
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: I've got the two tight ends on the left. In
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: a wing set, that's where the tight end is adjacent
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: to tackle and then and then off the ball, you know,
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: in a wing just just diagonally off his off his
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: back hip is the other tight end, and then opposite
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: that there you have two receive wide receivers. What happens
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: on that play is your you have a wide receiver
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: in the slot. So what is the safety looking at
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: He's he's saying, I've got two receivers to my left,
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: two wide receivers to my left. I've got two tight
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: ends to my right. So the the heat is going
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: to get on me faster from the two receiver side.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: So if I got to so now, particularly the slot
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: because of that formation, to get a wide receiver personnel
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: in the slot and only have two receivers from that
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: personnel group, you've got to put the two tight ends
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: on the other side. Does that make sense?
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: Yes?
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: And so so now a free safety when he feels
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: that scene coming at him from his left side, then
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: he's not he's gonna want to hang a little bit
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: more to the left because again that's where the speed
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: is coming. You know, the speed at two uh is
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: the way you say it. Uh. And and then now
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: when the tight end, when he comes on the seam route,
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: your you're just your alignment is just a little closer
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: to the receiver on this on the seam than you
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: would be with the tight end. And and it was
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: there was a good path that Arroyo took because he
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: didn't just uh you know, had he just gone straight up,
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: then he would have been closer to the tight end.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: But he but he widened, he you know, not didn't
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: quite run out and up, but but he did, yes,
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: you know, kind of like almost like a stick a
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: stick nod some people. You know, I don't think he
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: turned his hips all the way and turned his shoulders
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: on it, but he did widen and and then that
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: that enabled because you want that, you want that stretch
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: that when when two when when you're going the verticals
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: on a safety and he's got to cover either scene
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: and a seam is just an inside go route. There's
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: it's goldilocks and the porridge. If the seam routes are
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: too close to the safety, then the safety can can
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: move and he can he can react to and he
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: can cover enough ground to cover both seams. And as
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: a quarterback, we want to hit that between eighteen and
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: twenty two yards. If if we hit it past twenty
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: two yards, then now we're we're that's the ball is
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: gonna float too much, and a safety can so if
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: we hit that between eighteen and twenty two yards and
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: our spacing is correct, what I mean, Goldilocks and the
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: Porridge as a as a I'm gonna I'm I'm gonna
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: go back. I'm the quarterback. If if my guys are
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: the correct space, scene, I can I can hit either scene.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: If if they're too narrow, then the safety can get them.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: If they're too wide, then the corner can he can
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: kind of midplay it and he can play the outside.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: He can play the outside guy, but the ball would
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: be in the air a long way to the sideline.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: He kind of midplays it, and then he can fall
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: in on the seam. If your seams are too wide,
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: you're going, oh, okay, great safety is never going to
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: get there. And then you go, oh but damn, we're
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: too wide. Now the cornerbacks near the sidelines, they can
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: fall into the play. So Goldilocks and the Porridge, with
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: respects to trying to do two seams on a free safety,
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: not too narrow, not too wide. For the reasons I described,
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: they hit the two seams. They put the free safety
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: in a bind. They got them to failure to communicate.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: But but even even the failure to communicate to uh,
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: uh with with with what happened with the tight ends?
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Both the safety and the and the corner to that
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: side ran to the flat and nobody carried ore up
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: the scene. But the Titans could have saved themselves with
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: the free safety was close enough to the play. Gotcha?
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Humill heard, yeah, hardcore football, Give me give me two
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: minutes because I want to save the second segment. Have
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: enough time to talk to Jalen Milroe, So just give
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: me two minutes. You watched every snap of Emmanuel Wilson
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: in Green Bay after he was signed. Your ability to
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: watch Jakarti Wright is a lot more limited, hurt last year,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: et cetera. Kind of similar sized backs. What do you
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: see from right?
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: I think he's got a little bit of Chris Carson
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: in him. I do think Emmanuel Wilson is fair. You know,
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: I think that they're they're kind of, you know, backup
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: slash third string running back type. You know, they don't
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: have the eye, They don't fit my eye like a
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: starting running back. Okay, but I could see him being
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: a two. You know, maybe that that would be there.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: The kind of the ceiling I think for their for
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: their skill set, but you know that that can be
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: a good thing. You know, they're not incapable of giving
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: you one hundred yard game in the regular season. They
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: would just have to have great blocking, right right.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: I mean they're not they're not an elite guy. But
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: you know, I mean it's there's something. There might be
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: a wee bit of juice.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: All right, let me do that. Go ahead, Well, let
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: me say that if if if Jaccardi Right's going to
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: give you a hundred yards, Canine would have guy got
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: you one to fifty. Yeah, give it behind the same block, Yeah, exactly.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: And I like, look, I put it this, I'd rather
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: give the ball to Jaccardi right than to George Hallani.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: I think you'd get more yards on twenty carries from
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: right than more than than you would with twenty carries
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: on Hallani. That's kind of what's just an opinion, that's
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: what That's kind of what That's what I wanted to
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: get out of you. And and yeah, perfect, that's perfect. Okay,
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: let's do this. We'll take a break come back. The
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: numbers weren't pretty uh at all for Jalen mill h
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: six for eleven two interceptions at twenty seven point seven
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: passer rating yay, and the two picks were kind of
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: ugly looking as well. But I'll find out what Hugh
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: thought Hardcore Football Mill row any pluses or they all? God?
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Was it all a double minus kniper for Jalen Milroe.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: We'll find out with Hugh Mail and r QB one
• 31:22
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• 31:26
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• 31:40
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• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Humailing with us Hugh. I'm just going to turn it
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: over to QB one because a lot of the talk
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: after the preseason game yesterday was, Wow, Jalen Milroe still
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: hasn't taken that step. We thought watching practice the last
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: few weeks it felt like he been coming on, but
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: we all know practice isn't the same as a game,
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: even if it's against you know, second and third team guys.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: But six of eleven two picks did have one nice
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: scramble on the way. So what did your quarterback guys
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: tell you? How'd you grade out? Jalen Milroll.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: Well, there's no way you can have him as your
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: number two for a team that's aspiring to get back
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: to the super Bowl. I just think that development is,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: you know, not there yet. I'm not saying that to
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: criticize him. They probably knew there was a development. That's
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: why he's a third rounder not a first rounder. But
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: you look at the difficult part for him is looking
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: at the defense and saying, Okay, I recognize the coverage.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: Now okay, within that coverage, you know, I know the responsibilities.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: And then where are the windows where where you know
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: it's like gonna it's morphine, it's gonna get it's gonna
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: take this window away. But that means it's going to
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: open this window. And being able to kind of anticipate
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: how that defense is flowing, that's his problem. And so
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: you know he's turning down you know, just these intermediate
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: and they try and get stop routes to him. So well,
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, one thing that you would want to do
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: if a guy isn't dynamic, you're dynamically accurate. What does
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: that mean? Uh? Most quarterbacking, when you're you're throwing, you're
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: hitting a moving target and you and and so obviously
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: that's harder. Like if you were in a contest. You
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: went out with your frat buddies at Wazoo and you say,
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: we're gonna have a contest. You know, can we throw
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: a snowball through a window? Well, if you get to
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: throw to the park car, uh, and your buddy gets
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: the has to throw to the moving car, you got
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: a better chance, right, even though the windows are the same.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: So when when you take Milroy, you say, okay, quarterbacking
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: is throwing to a moving target. To use an aviation term, vectoring.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: You're throwing the ball out in front. It's totally different
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: obviously than a pitcher who has to hit a stationary
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: mit that's a static target. Dynamic is moving and so
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: they know that mill Roe. The accuracy is not always
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: just the mechanics. People just want to say, oh, quarterbacks
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: not accurate. Where's his mechanics? And there's some mechanic issues
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: with Milroe, But a lot of times, by the time
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: you get to the professional level, it's not the mechanics.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: It's more the brain has to process the right brain. Remember,
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: left brain is the analytical side. The right brain is
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: the creative side, the imagery side, and so your right
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: brain has to see, oh, if I throw that out
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: route way out in front of him, that's going to
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: be the spot, right, okay, and so's that's not a
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: strong suit of mill rules. So what do they do.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: They get a lot of hook routes where it acts
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: as a stationary target. You go down, you stop, you
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: come right back at the quarterback to your from your perspective,
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: you know he's not moving. You have you don't have
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: to lead him. You're not hitting a moving car. You're
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: hitting a stationary car. And you know whether it's a
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: hook or they you know, they had a route. For example,
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: they go a mirrored route. They're gonna go corner stops
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: and so both sides of a receiver on the left
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: and receiver gonna go approximately ten yards, break to the corner,
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: then stop, and then come back to the quarterback. So
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: from the vision of the quarterback, it's a it's a
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: static throw because you're coming right back at you. Yeah,
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: you're moving, but relative to the quarterbacks, aye, you're moving
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: right back into it straight at him. Does that make sense?
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Was that kind of was that the play? Like there
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: was an example of that, was that the one he
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: threw to Montory Foster twenty four yards is kind of
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: right down the middle, and Foster kind of came back
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: to the ball. Is that one of that? Is that
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: an example?
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: Uh oh no, that was a that was maybe his
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: best play. That was a that was a dagger route
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: where they did a they did a play action. They
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: went to the left. That's some tricky footwork and then
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: and then he he he, you know, start half roll
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: to your left, stop and then hit a deep end
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: coming from the right. Yep, it's hard on your footwork
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: and what have you bought? You do get a better
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: flow with the defenders, you're more likely get better windows.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: So I like it. I like and you know that's
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: that's stuff I did at in the running suit back
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: in the Falcon days. The red gun. You know, so
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: you know that kind of you know, take three steps,
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: stop and then throw the other way. So that Warren
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: Moon's done that ten thousand times what you saw, Yeah,
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: and and so that was a beautiful throw. And but
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: not you know, now he wasn't you know, blazing across
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: the format. So a little bit to what you're saying,
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: you know, he could just kind of throw it into
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: an area in a zone coverage and you're not, you know, sprinting.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: But but the play that I'm describing is you go
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: corner routes and then they stop, they right back at you.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: And you know, it's a good play against cover three,
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: a three deep four under. You just have to look
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: at the two inside defenders, which one squeezes the guy
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: the ball and and then go to the opposite side.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: Very simple read. And he's been doing that type of
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: read since Alabama. I know because I studied all his
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: tape and he just turned down Cody White and Cody White,
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: he had a nice fifteen yard completion wide open and
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: and you look at what that's not NFL quarterbacking. You
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: thrown it that you just got five yards to the checkdown,
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: but you gave up fifteen yards. You know, that's a
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: great way to go the entire game with no interceptions
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: and you know and score you know, nine points, right,
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: and and then you say, well, well he did throw interceptions. Yeah,
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: and that's the problem. But on that for that, if
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: you're analyzing that particular play, you say, that's way too conservative.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: Even if you're nursing, you know, a three point leading
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, if you get a guy that wide open.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: It's the National Football League. You have to rip that
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: ball on the corner stop. That's why the the coordinator
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: called the play. And so then the very next play,
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: uh he has he has Cody White, you know, so
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: he misses Cody White. And then now he's got Cody
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: White on a go route. I don't know if Cody
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: White said something to him, but but now he's got
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: Eliza Royo on a little whip route where he's opening
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: the flat. You know, probably six seven yard completion gonna
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: get you know, uh turn get a little bit of
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: run after the Cats, probably eight nine ten yard completion
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: turns that down. He throws the fade route. That's fine.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: Now if you're in a quarterback meeting room, Okay, if
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: you're gonna turn down Elijah a sir, you know, seven
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: eight nine yard gain and you're gonna throw the go route,
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: then then you better make it work or you know,
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: give yourself a chance to make that work for the
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: calculus to to make sense. And but but you know,
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: he just it was very covered. He threw it underthrow
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: it really not much of a chance. Actually, I misanalyzed
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: that there was a chance. He had a half a
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: step a good throw would have got it probably for me.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: If I was talking to Jalen Mirro, I would have said,
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: let's let's just hit Eliza Royo there and and you know,
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: just get some rhythm with the uh with the completions. Anyways,
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: he throws the go route, he underthrows it. So now
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: Cody White back to back plays and it's like, man,
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to make this team too. Yeah, like yeah,
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: like a throw it to me on the play before
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: b when you give me a go route, give me
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: a chance, I'll throw it over my outside shoulder. Give
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: me a chance, you know, because Cody White's like what
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: six two, six three maybe more?
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like six, he might be six four yeah, yeah.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: You know, so so let you know, don't underthrow, you know,
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: let let him you know, go high and and use
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: his height. So at an't event. But but there were
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: some good things. As I said that dagger, I said,
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: when he went he started the left the run and
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: shoot play, that was great. He had a you know,
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: a basic you know, a bootleg where you fake the
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: zone to the right, comes out in the flat, doesn't
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: really throw it to him. I think I think it
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: was a royal as a tight end in the flat,
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: he's late, and then by the time he remember the
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: kind of did a jump pass and he threw it
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: in the ground. Like they're like, whoa, well, that's bad quarterback.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: That's a first and tend play where hey, the guy's
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: wide open. Why didn't you just throw it to him.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: Here's a good news. You come back the very next series.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: It might have even been the first play of the
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: next series. It's it's like they talked about it on
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: the sideline like, hey, hey, you you have the athleticism,
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: do you you know, come out the flats wide open,
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: turn your hips and give it to him. Yeah, and
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: so so that's what they did. And these are the
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: type of things that happened with young quarterbacks in a
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: preseason game, like like, dude, how did you just dirt
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: that freaking naked. Now I'm gonna come back out early
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: in the next series and I'm gonna call the same,
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: you know, like a similar almost identical play. You come around,
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: if the guys open the flat, you know, square your
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: hips and throw him the damn ball. Yes, okay. And
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: then and then Millroe, because he's a good dude, he'll
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: nod his head and he understands and he takes the coaching,
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: and then he came back out and he hit it.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: He did it perfect. There's no quarterback in the NFL
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: who could have executed that play better than he did.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: On the next time, it was the same thing.
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: He dirted.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: And so that's that's that's where you say, Okay, that's growth.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: That's growth right there in that moment. But if we're
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: talking about being the number two quarterback for a Super
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: Bowl contender, we can't have the first play where we
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: dirt it because we might not get the chance to
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: come back and make it right, you know. So you know,
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: those are the kind of things you know. And then
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: the interception was just almost as bad as quarterbacking gets.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: You know, he's got trips to let you know. The
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: the X receiver comes in and sits down over the ball.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: He knows he's got a five out protection with the
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: running back and they're going to match the running back
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: to the flat. He knows the defender he's got to
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: know the next defender is. He's sitting right there, and
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: the eyeballed it. He just stared it down, stared it down,
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: and the linebackers just sitting right there looking at his
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: eyes and it was as if he never saw him,
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: like the guy the linebacker was wearing invisible juice. And
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: that sounds harsh. I you know every quarterback has ever played,
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: certainly me. You know, I'll raise my hand. We've had
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: times and you go, what are you doing? How did
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: you not see him? It happens, but it can't happen, right,
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: that's the key. Well, the good news is he doesn't
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: have to be number two. That's the good Yeah, he
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: does too. And Drew Lock was. Drew Lock was, you know,
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: just how he played the the the quickness, the you know,
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: the feet were right, you know, his feet were tied
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: to his eyes. You know, he had a he had
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: a understanding of wearing his going to the ball. He
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: had numerous times where he had to turn down receive.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: He did not have a lot of throw it to
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: your number one guy who he's opened in. There was
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: a few, I should say, but I'd say more than
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: half of his throws. The other night for Locke, he
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: had to go through a progression. He had to get
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: at least two, three, four, and on at least two
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: occasions five his fifth receiver in the progression, and he
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: looked like a pro quarterback getting there, so they're they're
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: at this juncture as we speak. The distance between Drew
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: Locke and Jaln Milrose substantial. My friend.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: I might check in with you later this week before
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: the final preseason game on Friday against Kansas City. I
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: love these can't wait for until it's the regular season.
• 43:36
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• 43:38
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• 44:02
  Speaker 2: bad news was the injuries. It started Friday, Jake Bobo
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: tearing his ACL He's done for the season already on
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: IR but Clark broke his leg yesterday. The first defensive series,
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: first offensive series. Mason Richmond, backup offensive lineman who would
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: be on the fifty three Man suffered a long term
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: injury as well. Drew Lockdough Good news looked really good.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Jayol Milroe, though struggle. Final preseason game is Friday in
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: Kansas City against Chiefs Manors crushed by the Cub yesterday
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: nineteen to two. More on that in a moment, because
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• 44:40
  Speaker 3: Tomorrow.
• 44:41
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• 44:48
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  Speaker 2: Ah, here we go on Monday. I missed this last week.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: I was out for one day and I miss Mollywopping.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: Today is I'm not sure what to expect from today
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: because the weekend was such a mixed bag. Like it really,
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: I guess in some ways you could just say the
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: weekend was the Mariners just in an absolute nutshell. Chris
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Crawford not here today, Chris, get better, get well. We
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: miss you, Hopefully we'll have you back next week. So
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: playing the role of Chris Crawford today is Anderson Hurst,
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: who now has and first of all, thanks for sticking
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: around by the morning show today. Yeah, also host Course
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Mayor's postcast locked on and so he's a very very
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: well versed in all things Mariners. Spent four hours with
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Chuck Powell today too, so I'm sure probably three hours
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: and forty five minutes was baseball. So he's he's all
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: set to go.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: This is a good one, though, Nathan. So now this
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: year anders Hurst is now he has now played the
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: role of Nathan Bishop and Chris Crawford all in the
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: same year.
• 46:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean for every time. That's a good lesson
• 46:30
  Speaker 6: for everybody. Whenever life has got you down and really
• 46:32
  Speaker 6: got you in the hole there and you have to
• 46:33
  Speaker 6: pretend to be me, remember that something good could happen
• 46:36
  Speaker 6: on the other side and you could pretend to be Chris,
• 46:38
  Speaker 6: because wouldn't you rather be Chris than me? I think
• 46:40
  Speaker 6: that's everybody would agree with that.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's go. Let's go down the road of opening statements.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: As always before, we jump into all the topics, and
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: there are plentiful. The topics are plentiful today. But Nathan
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: fire Away.
• 46:52
  Speaker 6: I'll try to keep it fairly brief, but I think
• 46:54
  Speaker 6: you kind of nailed it in This felt like the
• 46:56
  Speaker 6: most Mariners week of the season in just incredible way
• 47:00
  Speaker 6: to go three and three. They lost two of the
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: top I think four losses in franchise history last week,
• 47:09
  Speaker 6: losing twenty two to nothing and nineteen to two yesterday,
• 47:12
  Speaker 6: multiple games in which the winning team threw a position
• 47:15
  Speaker 6: player out in the ninth inning in order to save
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: their pitching, and the Mariners could not score a run
• 47:20
  Speaker 6: off of them, or we're trying to score a run
• 47:22
  Speaker 6: off of them or whatever, and then they still go
• 47:24
  Speaker 6: three and three and probably the most exciting win of
• 47:28
  Speaker 6: the year on Saturday, and definitely the most heroic singular
• 47:32
  Speaker 6: performance by any one player this season in Randia Rose Arena.
• 47:35
  Speaker 6: I mean, that's the Mariners, right, Like the Mariners are
• 47:38
  Speaker 6: the entire spectrum of emotion, and they are happening on
• 47:41
  Speaker 6: back to back days, are happening within the same week.
• 47:44
  Speaker 6: I think that you have to really kind of look
• 47:48
  Speaker 6: at the way the team has played against good competition
• 47:50
  Speaker 6: in the past week, and if you can get over
• 47:52
  Speaker 6: the negative thirty eight run differential, I think the group
• 47:57
  Speaker 6: as a group, a roster of twenty six guys played
• 48:00
  Speaker 6: pretty well against some pretty good teams. You had Bryce
• 48:04
  Speaker 6: Miller's turn in the rotation go extremely poorly two times
• 48:07
  Speaker 6: in a row. You had some really questionable, but at
• 48:10
  Speaker 6: this point bog standard Dan Wilson management that really made
• 48:13
  Speaker 6: things probably more difficult than they needed to be. But
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: the team itself, the group of guys, they showed some
• 48:20
  Speaker 6: fight this week. They were down early in that Friday
• 48:22
  Speaker 6: game against Chicago, I think in the top of the
• 48:24
  Speaker 6: first they were already down three to nothing before they
• 48:26
  Speaker 6: came to bat, and they rallied to get that taken
• 48:29
  Speaker 6: care of. They took care they picked up their bullpen
• 48:31
  Speaker 6: when they squandered the ninth inning lead in that one,
• 48:35
  Speaker 6: and then, like I said, Saturday was an amazing win.
• 48:37
  Speaker 6: So if the group the ninety five percent of the
• 48:41
  Speaker 6: guys that can continue to play at that level moving forward,
• 48:44
  Speaker 6: especially after the next week or so when the schedule
• 48:47
  Speaker 6: starts to break as much of a what is it
• 48:51
  Speaker 6: ten pounds of crap and a five pound bag of
• 48:53
  Speaker 6: the scene it has been already this season. There's still
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: absolutely everything in front of this team. Man, they could
• 48:59
  Speaker 6: be because the American League West is the worst division
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: in baseball history, full stop, straight up, it is the worst.
• 49:06
  Speaker 6: The first place team just announced that they're firing their
• 49:08
  Speaker 6: general manager at the end of the season. I mean,
• 49:11
  Speaker 6: everything is still in front of this group. They just
• 49:13
  Speaker 6: have to maintain the edge that I've seen them play
• 49:15
  Speaker 6: with this past week.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure how the postcast worked or what was
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: said over the last three days, but I'll let you
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: recreate some of that after a three and three week.
• 49:23
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, if you were to get offered me
• 49:24
  Speaker 7: three and three against the Brewers and Cubs, probably two
• 49:27
  Speaker 7: of the five best teams in baseball by my estimation,
• 49:29
  Speaker 7: at least in the regular season this year. I would
• 49:32
  Speaker 7: have signed up for that every single day. And what
• 49:34
  Speaker 7: I gain from this is I think we need to
• 49:36
  Speaker 7: bring about Scott's service so we can have the fun
• 49:38
  Speaker 7: differential conversation based off of what's been going on with
• 49:42
  Speaker 7: the marriage, because I believe they now have a negative
• 49:44
  Speaker 7: sixty one run differential this year. So yikes. But no,
• 49:49
  Speaker 7: I think everything that Nathan said I agree with. That's
• 49:53
  Speaker 7: just kind of how this season has gone, and it's
• 49:56
  Speaker 7: been frustrating to watch, and that part of what we
• 49:59
  Speaker 7: saw on the weekend. Why this season has been I
• 50:01
  Speaker 7: think more maddening than almost any other Mariner season that
• 50:04
  Speaker 7: I can remember in my lifetime, is because you can
• 50:06
  Speaker 7: see the ways that they can play against some of
• 50:09
  Speaker 7: the best teams in baseball, and you can beat the Cubs,
• 50:12
  Speaker 7: who have one of the best offenses in the league.
• 50:15
  Speaker 7: You have this talent, this guy like Randy or Rose
• 50:19
  Speaker 7: Arena who maddens some fans rightfully so, but then he
• 50:24
  Speaker 7: literally willfully carries you to a win on Saturday. And
• 50:27
  Speaker 7: I think that can be encapsulated with the whole team.
• 50:29
  Speaker 7: You see the potential, and the fact that they can't
• 50:31
  Speaker 7: do that on a regular basis is extremely frustrating.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: I think that's the thing.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: Let's talk Randy for a second and listen. I mean, Nate,
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: let's start with you. Like Randy is just he's almost
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: kind of an enigma in some ways?
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: Is he not?
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Like there's so much good and then there's also some
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: frustrations with Randy. But the good is this. Andrews mentioned it.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: He carried them to a win on Saturday, like, flat
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: out just carry them. He not often baseball and I
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: know that we've got the war number and all those things,
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: but man, that dude carried you to win. I don't
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: know what these numbers mean. They flashed up on the screen.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: I think there. I think it's still pretty impressive. He's
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: the eleventh player in Major League Baseball history with six
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: consecutive seasons of twenty home runs and twenty stolen bases.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: Among the other guys that have done it, Barry Bonds
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: did it twice. The second time, I do believe. Yeah,
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Barry Bonds did it once. Bobby Bonds did
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: it twice, Bobby Abray, you and Willie Mays like some
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: pretty heady company he's in, Like that's that's something else.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: And so Nathan, let's just give some love before we
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: go down and ask other questions about why we've had
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: position players pitching twice this week and Bryce Miller starts
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: before we get to that, how about we throw some
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: flowers Randy rose Lorain his way.
• 51:53
  Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, I mean this. And the one of
• 51:55
  Speaker 6: the things that's been so amazing about Randy is is
• 51:57
  Speaker 6: he was a good player last year. He's been a
• 51:59
  Speaker 6: good player ever since Themeri has acquired him. It's definitely
• 52:02
  Speaker 6: one of the best acquisitions of the Jerry to Poto era.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: But he's been so steady this year.
• 52:08
  Speaker 6: I think the thing with Randy is he's always felt
• 52:10
  Speaker 6: like this guy who would get incandescently hot, almost kind
• 52:13
  Speaker 6: of like a miniature Julio in that sense, where like
• 52:15
  Speaker 6: his end of the year stats would look pretty good,
• 52:17
  Speaker 6: but if you kind of went back in Parson is
• 52:19
  Speaker 6: like he'd have a couple months where it felt like
• 52:20
  Speaker 6: he really wasn't playing well, but he had a really
• 52:22
  Speaker 6: hot month that kind of made it all even out.
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: This year, I just.
• 52:25
  Speaker 6: Feel like Randy has been that metronomic steadying force for
• 52:29
  Speaker 6: this offense when everybody else has been playing like crap
• 52:33
  Speaker 6: or been hurt or been hurt and playing like crap,
• 52:36
  Speaker 6: Randy has been there and been steady as heck all
• 52:39
  Speaker 6: season long. This is the best year of his career.
• 52:42
  Speaker 6: He's already if you wanted to do f war, which
• 52:44
  Speaker 6: I know you know, we don't need to get into
• 52:46
  Speaker 6: the nitty gritty of that, but he's already at his
• 52:49
  Speaker 6: career high with a month plus to go in the season.
• 52:51
  Speaker 6: And I can't overstate the way the thing with Randy
• 52:55
  Speaker 6: is I mean, you said it Ian. Is he a
• 52:56
  Speaker 6: perfect player? No, He's very defensively. There are times where
• 53:02
  Speaker 6: if you were just sitting on your couch watching the game,
• 53:04
  Speaker 6: he appears checked out or like he's not giving full effort,
• 53:07
  Speaker 6: which I know for sports fans is like the big bugaboo.
• 53:10
  Speaker 6: If these guys are not if you don't see them
• 53:12
  Speaker 6: busting their ass every single second in the most obvious visible.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: Way, it gets you really upset.
• 53:16
  Speaker 6: I'm not even telling you to not feel that way
• 53:18
  Speaker 6: when you see that happen. What I am telling you
• 53:21
  Speaker 6: to do is not let that frustration cloud all of
• 53:24
  Speaker 6: the good things that this guy has brought to this team.
• 53:26
  Speaker 6: And if you think he doesn't care, look at the
• 53:29
  Speaker 6: way he reacted on Saturday night when he hit that
• 53:31
  Speaker 6: walk off home run. The passion is there. I think
• 53:33
  Speaker 6: if you remember that these guys in baseball play every frickin'
• 53:38
  Speaker 6: day for six plus months, of course they're gonna have
• 53:42
  Speaker 6: days where they're not bringing their a game. That's just
• 53:44
  Speaker 6: the way human beings are. We are not at our
• 53:46
  Speaker 6: best every single second of d Day. We're fortunate that
• 53:49
  Speaker 6: it's not all caught on camera. So I would encourage
• 53:53
  Speaker 6: people to embrace the good that Randy Rosa rainam brings
• 53:56
  Speaker 6: to this team, because he's the best hitter on the team,
• 53:58
  Speaker 6: the best position player on this team full stop by
• 54:01
  Speaker 6: his pretty sizable margin. And also, not to make it
• 54:04
  Speaker 6: a sad thing, I think you're probably seeing the last
• 54:06
  Speaker 6: few months of him in a Mariner's uniform. Now, enjoy
• 54:09
  Speaker 6: it while you have it.
• 54:09
  Speaker 7: And that's where I want to I was going to go,
• 54:11
  Speaker 7: because I mean, he's earned himself quite a payday, and.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: Part of that celebration Saturday might have been. And then
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: when you get the sixth straight and hold up six
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: feet like he knows.
• 54:22
  Speaker 7: Yeah he does, he absolutely does. But Nathan's right, it's
• 54:26
  Speaker 7: the consistency that has really impressed me with him. He's
• 54:29
  Speaker 7: not gone through a cold stretch at all this year
• 54:33
  Speaker 7: when you've seen that from even your best hitters, like
• 54:36
  Speaker 7: even Dom can Zone has had a couple, you know,
• 54:39
  Speaker 7: two three week stretch where he doesn't produce the same way.
• 54:43
  Speaker 7: Cole Young's definitely come back down to earth the last
• 54:45
  Speaker 7: month or so, and obviously the rest of the lineup
• 54:49
  Speaker 7: it's just injuries galore or severe underperformance and that's something
• 54:54
  Speaker 7: that this this team is sorely needs. And we've talked
• 54:56
  Speaker 7: about where would this team be if if cal Rawly
• 54:59
  Speaker 7: was just normal cal Rawley. Well, I could also look
• 55:02
  Speaker 7: at it in the opposite way. Where would this team
• 55:04
  Speaker 7: be if Randy Rosereina wasn't having the best year of
• 55:06
  Speaker 7: his career?
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: And uhh yeah.
• 55:08
  Speaker 7: I don't even want to start thinking about that. But uh,
• 55:11
  Speaker 7: the fact that he's just willing his team to stay
• 55:13
  Speaker 7: in this playoff race is awesome.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 55:15
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• 55:28
  Speaker 2: Bishop here Andrews sitting in for Chris today. Get well, Chris,
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: hope to hear you soon. Let's let's go. I think
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: the easiest way to transition into the bad of the
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: weekend would be starting with the good of the weekend,
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: which ended up not being so good, at least in
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: terms of the end result. So Kate Anderson gets called up.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: Kate Anderson makes his debut on Saturday. I like everything.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: We wanted to see, everything, we hope to see. Everything
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: we expected from Kate Anderson. I mean, god, nay, not
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: a lot of times guys live up to their what
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: you think right, like, you know, especially now it's one
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: start in the bigs. I get that, we all understand that.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: But wow, on a late Saturday afternoon, could we have
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: asked for more?
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: We could?
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: We get have asked more from the dugout, right, So
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: let's before we get to the dugout and the inability
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: to understand the situation, let's talk about Kate Anderson. How
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: cool was that to see this dude come up this
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: absolute thoroughbread and everything we wanted to see.
• 56:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah, what a fortuitous moment that was for the Marine
• 56:34
  Speaker 6: to end up with the number three draft pick in
• 56:36
  Speaker 6: that draft, because I think that they hit something like
• 56:39
  Speaker 6: two percent odds or something like that in order to
• 56:41
  Speaker 6: get that draft pick. And credit to them that they
• 56:43
  Speaker 6: hone in on the right guy and that they absolutely
• 56:45
  Speaker 6: nailed that pick. So fun to watch. I really think
• 56:48
  Speaker 6: people need to understand how pressure packs a major league
• 56:52
  Speaker 6: debut is for a starting pitcher, especially a very hyped
• 56:54
  Speaker 6: one like that, and what a challenging lineup that was
• 56:58
  Speaker 6: in order to debut against. I mean, this guy has
• 57:00
  Speaker 6: not faced anything above double A and they threw him
• 57:03
  Speaker 6: directly into the fire. Into the fire. To Anders's point,
• 57:07
  Speaker 6: one of the best offenses in all of Major League baseball,
• 57:10
  Speaker 6: was some of the best hitters, one of the deepest lineups,
• 57:12
  Speaker 6: and he just looked fantastic to two times through the order,
• 57:15
  Speaker 6: which any reasonable, rational, thoughtful, semi considerate, or modern observer
• 57:21
  Speaker 6: of the game of baseball really wouldn't have expected any
• 57:24
  Speaker 6: more out of him than to get through that lineup
• 57:25
  Speaker 6: two times. You saw the command start to Liild a
• 57:28
  Speaker 6: little bit in the fifth inning there as he started
• 57:30
  Speaker 6: to get up in his pitch count. You also have
• 57:31
  Speaker 6: to keep in mind that this guy is getting close
• 57:34
  Speaker 6: to his innings limit on the year, and he has
• 57:36
  Speaker 6: also not been allowed to just go out there and throw,
• 57:39
  Speaker 6: you know, ninety one hundred pitches.
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: The Marians have rightfully been very.
• 57:41
  Speaker 6: Cautious with him, So when he gets into the sixties
• 57:44
  Speaker 6: and seventies and up, you're probably going to start to
• 57:47
  Speaker 6: see some fall off there. But when he was in
• 57:49
  Speaker 6: his wheelhouse, when he was doing the things that he's
• 57:52
  Speaker 6: been doing all year, I think Chris made the comp
• 57:55
  Speaker 6: that he can reminds him of Cliff Lee, And I
• 57:57
  Speaker 6: love that comp because Cliff Lee had great stuff, but
• 58:00
  Speaker 6: he pitched so much better than his stuff, And that's
• 58:03
  Speaker 6: what Kate Anderson reminds me of. I mean, he's not
• 58:06
  Speaker 6: throwing a hundred. No, he's not snapping off the nastiest
• 58:09
  Speaker 6: breaking pitch you've ever seen in your life. This isn't
• 58:10
  Speaker 6: the Felix change up that looks like it's transporting dimensions
• 58:13
  Speaker 6: on its way to home plate. He just has really
• 58:15
  Speaker 6: good stuff and knows exactly how to use it and
• 58:18
  Speaker 6: where he's throwing it, and I mean it looks so repeatable.
• 58:23
  Speaker 6: They just have to keep him healthy and get him
• 58:25
  Speaker 6: comfortable and get him in the rotation. And as we'll
• 58:28
  Speaker 6: talk about later, I'm sure they really need him to
• 58:30
  Speaker 6: do that because the rotation, which has been the strength
• 58:33
  Speaker 6: of this roster for so long, is kind of leaking
• 58:36
  Speaker 6: oil and blowing steam right now. But overall, other than
• 58:39
  Speaker 6: the factors that didn't have anything to do with Kate
• 58:41
  Speaker 6: Anderson couldn't be much happier with the way he looked
• 58:44
  Speaker 6: on Saturday.
• 58:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, and you look at he can command
• 58:47
  Speaker 7: every pitch, and that's what makes him special is because
• 58:50
  Speaker 7: he has four pitches and he can throw all of
• 58:52
  Speaker 7: them for strikes. He can get swing and miss on
• 58:54
  Speaker 7: all of them, and he can use all parts of
• 58:58
  Speaker 7: the zone with all four of his pitches fastballs, curveball,
• 59:01
  Speaker 7: is slider, and his change up. And he's doing this against,
• 59:03
  Speaker 7: like Nathan said, big league hitters for the first time,
• 59:06
  Speaker 7: and a team that hits left handed pitching better than
• 59:08
  Speaker 7: any team in baseball. So the fact that he was
• 59:11
  Speaker 7: doing that, and I almost take even more positivity from
• 59:14
  Speaker 7: that knowing that this wasn't even like full on one
• 59:18
  Speaker 7: hundred percent potential Kate Anderson, because like he's not a
• 59:22
  Speaker 7: guy that really walks that many guys. You could tell
• 59:24
  Speaker 7: he's trying to overthrow a couple times, like you said,
• 59:26
  Speaker 7: when he's in his wheelhouse, he's gonna get more guys
• 59:28
  Speaker 7: out and just kind of mow through lineups with his
• 59:32
  Speaker 7: just ability to command every single pitch that he throws.
• 59:35
  Speaker 7: So obviously we'll get into the decision to kind of
• 59:37
  Speaker 7: leave him in there and leave him out to dry.
• 59:39
  Speaker 7: But yeah, I just it's so good to see that
• 59:42
  Speaker 7: he kind of lived up to the billing for ye.
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: You know what I kept thinking is I'm watching him
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, Wow, what's twenty twenty seven and twenty
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: twenty eight going to look like with this guy? You know,
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking. And because I really think
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: they've got I mean, listen, the guy going tonight, Logan
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: Gilbert is your best pitcher. Yes, and there's not even
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: not even a debate right now. I mean, and it's
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: best on Best Tonight too, which is actually at Feeler. Yeah,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: that's a pretty awesome matchup. But this guy is this
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: guy has that potential to just be again, like Nathan said,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: double a to the majors against that lineup, and you
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: did that. Let's get into it though, Anders. This is
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: see when when when people criticize the manager and they
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: criticize what's going on, and they ask questions, I think
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: if just case was Saturday, not just the most i
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: mean remarkable part, that's it.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 7: Yeah, right, Yeah, And there's there's moments where you can
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 7: make a decision as a manager that I can in
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 7: my head, while I still disagree with the decision, I
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 7: can at least think, okay, I could see where you
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 7: were thinking. Right, there's somewhat of a defensible argument as
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 7: to why they make that decision. There was zero argument
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 7: for why they left him in there in that sixth
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 7: inning and then left him in there for two more
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 7: batters after the after he gave up and looked definitely
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 7: gassed at that point. There were so many ways that
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 7: that could have gone. That was I would even say
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 7: it was a relative mistake to let him finish the
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 7: fifth inning because he was starting to kind of, you know,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 7: pit her out of gas. In that instance as well,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 7: you can live with You're like, okay, can you get
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 7: the win whatever?
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 7: And then yeah, and then you know, you get the
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 7: double play to get out of it. He had already
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 7: given up the solo home run in the fifth. But
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 7: it's like, okay, five innings, one run baseball, you're at
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 7: seventy two pitches. Any sane person, he's not a He's
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 7: not thrown more than eighty pitches in a single start
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 7: this year at the minor league level, So having expecting
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 7: him to go any longer than that is just it
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 7: was crazy to me. Let alone the fact that you
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 7: just got through the lineup twice. PCA is coming up
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 7: and last time I checked, he's probably gonna win the
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 7: MVP in the National League. He hits a double, you
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 7: leave him in there, you get a double play because
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 7: he tries to, you know, go to third base on that,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 7: and then you give up a solo shot, and then
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 7: you give up another solo and then it's time to
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 7: take him out. And the defensible part about, like, there's
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 7: no defensible part about. But the people that are kind
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 7: of giving Dan Wilson a little bit of a justification
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 7: here is the fact that he has a shorter bullpen
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 7: with the six arms. Now, there are so many other
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 7: teams that don't have this issue that are running out
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 7: the same amount of relievers that the Mariners are at
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 7: this point. And the Mariners have had more starting pitch,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 7: more innings pitch by starting pitchers than any other team
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 7: in baseball, and you and in one week you have
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 7: you ran out of pitchers twice. So it's a complete
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 7: mismanagement of the roster at this point.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: Well, Nathan, I assume Nathan, Nathan, Bishop Andrews her stuff
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: sitting in for Chris Crawford all want Monday, Nathan. Were
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: they just on Saturday? Were they just worried about saving
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: their the relief pitchers for yesterday for Sunday?
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: Oh wait a second, man.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 6: I'm like, I'm pretty verbose. I talked too much. I
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 6: know Chris is always annoyed at how long I take
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 6: when I show. I don't know what to say about
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 6: this anymore. Man Like, he's not good at this. There
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 6: was nobody in the bullpen ready to go, Like, I
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 6: guess if you want to let him go out into
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 6: the sixth inning and try to get somewhere ouse, sure,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 6: but there was no plan, Like, there wasn't any there.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 6: Once it was clear that he was tired, then they
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 6: had to get a pitcher warm and ready to go.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 6: Like social media, is definitely the reason that the world
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 6: is going to end within my lifetime. And there's a
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 6: lot of bad things about it, but one thing it's
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 6: really really good for in sports is kind of triangulating
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 6: just how terrible or amazing or incredible something is. And
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 6: when I'm on social media and I just see the
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 6: entire baseball sphere in real time reacting to that is
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 6: the dumbest thing I've ever seen in my life. What
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 6: on earth is going on when you see the guy
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 6: who's a huge baseball fan, who wrote The Office and
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 6: the Good Place and all and parks and recreation hop
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 6: on there to just say, let me get this straight.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: This is what we're doing, X, Y and Z.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 6: You know that you've kind of crossed the threshold of, like,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 6: to Honors' point, hey, maybe you could kind of see
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 6: this and it didn't really work out into full on
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 6: TV sitcom buffoonery. And I'm sorry, that's where we've been
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 6: for a long time now. Man, I'm so tired of
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 6: talking about it. But like this, we all.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: Just well, I was at an establishment on Saturday night
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: with a bunch of people and the game was on
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: and it looked you know, and and and that was
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: and it was after he came out, so but it was,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: you know, the game, and there was a discussion of
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: people that I didn't even know really knew baseball that well,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: and we're but they're fan and they're like, and what
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: came up was what you guys just talked about, really
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: third time through, he's going to stay in and like really,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: and it just was I don't know what the thought
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: process was. Tough one tonight, but it just it's it.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: It's hard because for those of us that like Dan
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: Wilson and would love to be able to defend Dan
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: will and there's moments like that that are just indefensive.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: But I know you guys were talking before I before
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: I came in, and we started this about kids and
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: young kids and Andrews as the young en and Nathan congratulations.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: I think day one of college today, right, if I'm
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: not mistaken, right.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 6: You wait a few weeks ago. Still, but yeah, we're
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 6: getting real close.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: But yeah, like we're it's like sometimes your kids do
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: things over and over again, they're just like what why,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: like why, But then you look at them and they're
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: like five or younger, and you go, okay, well we'll
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: live with that. This wasn't the case, all right, that's uh,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: Nathan Bishop and Reshearst, let's come back. We'll one more
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: segment of Mali Want Monday. We got to talk about
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: the series that starts tonight and what the hell is
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: going on with this rotation? Like and oh, by the way, Julio, Yeah, Julio.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: This has always been the we love Julio show of record.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: We defend Julio on this show. Julio makes it really
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: hard for this particular show because the one gleaming ray
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: of positivity that's pretty consistent on this show, believe it
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: or not, Yes, I said positivity on this show would
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: be Julio Rodriguez and he's tried it. He makes it
• 1:06:07
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  Speaker 2: I don't even really want to get into the Bryce
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: Millers who got a sore arm thing, or Brian Wuz
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  Speaker 2: got a sore shoulder thing, whatever, I mean, we've I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to be accused of being a lunatic fringe
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: or anything like that, by by by mister Hollander.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: I don't want to go down that road.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: But okay, Nathan, our guy, Julio the center fielder, love him,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: hate him.
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  Speaker 3: He's a great DJ. I hear as well.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: In fact, that was the feature they showed in the
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: post game after the twenty two to nothing loss, was
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: Julio's a DJ's cool kind of cool. Didn't he throw
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: a ball in the sands that day? He did, That's
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: what he did. So he does that on Monday, not
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: having a great homestand as it is serious against the Cups,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: and then yesterday the most perplexities out there just playing
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: grab ass with fans, which first of all love that.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: But there's a time and a place. There is a
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: time and a place. The look on his face when
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: they called the ball and the umpire's looking out there
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: and he's like, huh what, Like, just.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what you make out of it, Nate,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: I really don't.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I am not really sure what to
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 6: say about it either. I don't believe that it's endemic
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 6: of I don't think that this is a guy that
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 6: has has a habitual issue of checking out of games
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 6: or whatever I can get kind of it to the
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 6: same thing we were talking about a Randia Rosarina in
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 6: the previous segment. Why you just you have days off
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 6: days at work and it happens and you screw up
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 6: and you do stupid things. And we're all really lucky
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 6: that it's not on national TV and we don't have
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 6: a bunch of like washed out dudes sitting on their
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 6: couch complaining about how much money you're making and all
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 6: this other stuff.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: Whenever you do that kind of crap.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 6: That said that kind of stuff, it just can't happen, man,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 6: And like it can't happen when you're having the worst
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 6: season of your career, which is what Julio's doing right now.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 6: We've talked ad nauseum on here about what a frustration
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 6: first half Julio has been throughout his career and how
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 6: great would it be if he were second half Julio
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 6: for an entire year. Well, instead, what we've gotten is
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 6: first half Julio for the entire year this year, and
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 6: the product there is just unpleasant to watch. This guy's
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 6: hitting two nineteen OBP of two eighty and slugging three
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 6: fifty nine since the All Star break. That's just really,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 6: really average somehow in twenty twenty six Major League Baseball offense,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 6: and that's just not what you're here for with Julio Rodriguez.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 6: What you're here for from Julio is spectacular defense and
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 6: those hot stretches on offense where he carries this team
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 6: for weeks at a time, and it just has not
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 6: happened this year. I don't want to try to read
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 6: too much into it, because down seasons happened, just like
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 6: Cale's sixty run home run sixty home run season last year.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 6: People have every every player has one season in their
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 6: career that's the worst season of their career. Maybe this
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 6: is that for Julio.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: But the larger and broader.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 6: Frustration for me is that this is a guy in
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 6: the fifth year of his career and we just haven't
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 6: seen improvement. And in some ways he's cursed because he
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 6: was so good as a rookie. He was so good
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 6: as a rookie. As a twenty one year old, he
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 6: was one of the best players in baseball. He was
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 6: a certified MVP candidate, So you expect him to improve
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 6: over that, and he just never really has. And that's
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 6: five years in. I think it's fair to start asking,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 6: not of Julio's good, not of Julio's worth, his contract,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 6: not I hope Julio is a Mariner for the next
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 6: ten years. He answered all of those.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: Things is yes.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 6: But the question is is there another level that Julio
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 6: is going to reach at some point in his career?
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 6: And I think it's getting harder and harder to say
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 6: that's a certainty, And now it's a very open question
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 6: after this year.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah, in a way, he's a victim of his own expectations. Yes,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 7: And he more than almost any other player that I've experienced,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 7: we compare to what he could be instead of comparing
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 7: him to other players on this team, or comparing him
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 7: to other players in this league. Because a seven fifty
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 7: ohps good defensive center fielder is a very valuable player
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 7: who and that's not going to be in any question
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 7: at this point. And he's by no means the reason
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 7: the Mariners are where they're at right now. But at
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 7: the same time, the fact that he hit those highs
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 7: as in his rookie year and has yet to really
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 7: hit more highs. If anything, he's actually slightly regressed since
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 7: that rookie year. Is frustrating and it's concerning, especially considering
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 7: that this team is built around him, cal Rawly, Josh
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 7: Naylor and the pitching staff moving forward. So the fact
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 7: that you know, one of those things that you are
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 7: relying on to be an everyday contributor can't be especially
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 7: one one of the other ones that we've talked about
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 7: a ton this year, and cal Rawley has just absolutely
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 7: bottomed out as an offensive player. This is where you
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 7: look to him to be that even more so right
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 7: to carry this offense. Hey, one of our guys is
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 7: having a down year.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: Help us out.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 7: So it's unfair of him, yes, But at the same time,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 7: we see what he can be and unfortunately, and a
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 7: lot of it is like tools too. It's like he's
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 7: not showing signs of maturity in terms of his approach
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 7: at the plate at all.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 6: He's not.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 7: He hasn't progressed as a player since his rookie year
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 7: and it's really frustrated his year five.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's as you pointed that out yesterday on that
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: red Right, go ahead, Nathan, Oh, I'm.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 6: Just gonna add to moving forward, I agree with everything that,
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 6: and it's just said moving forward. The real concerning thing
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 6: with Julio is that a man that size, I mean,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 6: it's always been a miracle that he's so big and
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 6: can play such an elite center field I don't know.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 6: I think all of you guys are older than Julio Rodriguez.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 6: Even you don't get faster and more athletic after your
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 6: mid twenties, and so Julio's not going to be a
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 6: center fielder forever, and it's already starting to look like
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 6: his best defensive years maybe behind him. Yes, if this
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 6: guy doesn't figure out how to become a really good
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 6: major league hitter like soon, the second that he's got
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 6: to get moved off of center field, it's going to
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 6: get really challenging. So they need to figure out a
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 6: way to get the potential in his bat, which is there,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 6: we have seen it. They need to make that a
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 6: much more consistent part of his game.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 7: And that's where I go to the coaching staff, like it.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 7: You can't blame the coaching staff for Julio's lack of
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 7: development solely, right, some of it is on the player
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 7: one hundred percent, But at what point is it like Okay, guys,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 7: where is the development process with this guy who has
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 7: all the tools in the bag. Where's the Kevin Sitzer
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 7: Edgar Martinez voodoo crap that we heard about all last
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 7: year that they were able to get the most out
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 7: of Cal Rawly and really put his you know, career
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 7: trajectory on something that we didn't expect.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: This was before this year. Obviously, where is that with Julio?
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 7: And yes there is the onus on the player too,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 7: for sure, but I do wonder how much of you know,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 7: actual coaching goes on with these players.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: Well, coaching does matter in most sports, at least it does.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Sam Darnold was lost, Kevin O'Connell
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: made him a good and then Klinn Kulbiak to come
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: to another level.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: Right, that happens along the way.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: Uh, you know, guys, get Carl Scott makes Siak secondary
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: players better. I mean a lot of those things happen.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: You know, that does happen real fast. I want to
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: spend like thirty seconds on Cal and then we'll wrap
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: things up. Nathan, you might be old enough. Do you
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: remember the rotting carcasses of once what of what's what
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: were once Dave Kingman and Gorman Thomas, you know rolling
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: through remember that I do. Where like Cal's hitting sub
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: one sixty now, but every now and then runs into
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: a ball like that's all we have. Doesn't it feel
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: a lot like those guys.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's really concerning for a guy who was
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 6: like arguably the best player in baseball last year. And
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 6: you know, it's like the franchise fixture. It's just it's
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 6: it's kind of like the Dan thing.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 8: Man.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 6: It's just so depressing and I've we've talked about it
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 6: so much that it's just it's just really hard to watch.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: At this point.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 6: I just want I want the marriage to win the
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 6: World Series this year, but I also just want the
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 6: season to be done so that Cal can come back
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 6: next year and we can hopefully just have a refresh,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 6: because it just it sucks watching this guy play this way.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: It's it's no fun, all right. Well, yeah, if I
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: was doing hockey three stars, Anders, you'll appreciate this. It's
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: not our hockey guy, but but you are if I
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: was doing if I was doing my Hockey three stars,
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: I think it would be this. I would be saying,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: as following Randy Number one Revos two. God, he saved them.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 7: He did, he did, he lost, saved them Weston Wilson.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: To west and Wilson are k number three.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 4: That's what.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: That's what the three stars of the week.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: All right?
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: Uh, Nathan?
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: So you got three against the Phillies Andres tells me
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: they're good at baseball. The picture tonight is supposed.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: To be really good.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 7: You don't need and and tell you that.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: No, I don't. I can look at the standings and
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: they've only won nine in a row.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: Is that good?
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 6: I think?
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: So they're not gonna win twelve. They're not gonna win
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: twelve in row. I'm saying it right now. They're not
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: gonna win twelve in a row. And then a little
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: team in a place that used to be called the SkyDome,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: I think they call it Rogers Center with an R
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: at the end. Now, So what do we expecting this week?
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: Nathan? Well?
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 6: I hope they don't get swept by the Phillies. But
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 6: if you tell me that it happens, I sure believe it.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 6: Because that's a really good baseball team with a lot
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 6: of good players.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: How they get good by and what's that? How they
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: get good? But they turn things around, So I.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 6: Don't know, man, It's it's like a fifteen year plan
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 6: of incremental progress and just keeping payrolls steady and just
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 6: trying to slowly build up the farm system and then
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 6: you just strike whenever. No, they spend craploads of money
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 6: on players all year, every year, and their owner is
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 6: beloved in the community because he basically just has My
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 6: job as an owner is to build the best team
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 6: I can every year.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 3: What a fricking concept.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 6: Right, So they're really good, and then you go to
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 6: Toronto where they spend raploads of money out there because
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 6: they're the only team in the country, so there's no
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 6: competition for their owner.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: There's just terrible. Yeah.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 6: Possibly the only team that's there's been more disease been
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 6: sickly this year than the Seattle Mariners as a viewing
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 6: product is the Toronto Blue Jays. But not looking forward
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 6: to being there on the road. Hopefully no high leverage
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 6: innings for Edward Bizardo or I'm going to have a coronary,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 6: you know, because it's just gonna be really hard.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: To watch they do.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 6: I think I said they needed to go four and
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 6: two last week to really convince me that they had
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 6: a shot. I think they need to do the same
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 6: thing this coming week. But honestly, if you can go
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 6: four and five over the next nine games, you're pretty
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 6: much done playing real baseball teams for the entire rest
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 6: of the season. So they just have to hold on.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 6: They just have to not get swept. They have to
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 6: not go on like a two in eight or a
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 6: three and twelve kind of stretch. And I still think
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 6: your Seattle Mariners are gonna end up being in the
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 6: playoffs for the most disgusting baseball season in the history
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 6: of the sport. But I think they're going to do it.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 7: I'm so tired of relying on playing crap teams. Man, like,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 7: go in a couple series, and well, it almost happened
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 7: last week, right, I said, you know, go win a
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 7: couple series. If you end up, you know, losing one,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 7: winning one, you're three and three year Okay, that would
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 7: be a similar case here. But I think if you
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 7: you know, win two series, two out of three against
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 7: the Phillies, two out of three against the Blue Jays,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 7: I'm still waiting for this team to win three straight series.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 7: They haven't done that since their eight game winning streaks,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 7: so they could do that with the next two, so
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 7: hopefully they do that.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 6: Let me leave you with this inspiration on it. You're
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 6: tired of playing crap teams. You're tired of the Marions
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 6: having to beat up on competition. The Manriors have a
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 6: negative sixty one run differential. Yeah, so pretty soon I
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 6: think they're getting ready to play at load of games
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 6: against the Los Angeles Angels Anaheim who have a negative
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 6: seventy run differential. So not so much beating up on
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 6: crappy teams, maybe two equals going toe to toe in
• 1:17:45
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• 1:20:15
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  Speaker 2: or the other, right, I think those are the two extremes, right,
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  Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken. I can't keep track, but I
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  Speaker 2: think that's what it is. No, it has nothing to
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  Speaker 2: do with that. It's all sports. So we'll get to
• 1:20:28
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• 1:20:30
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks lose with the Weekend Yesterday, nineteen sixteen to the
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: Titans in their second preseason game. Rookie Bid Clark though
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: the story he broke his leg. He's probably out for
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: the year. No, cour, I'll give you the roster moves today.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: Also backup offensive lineman Mason Richmond, also long term injury.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: Jake Bobo, of course, went on ir after hurting his
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: leg on Friday in the joint practice between the teams.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: Mariners crushed by the Cup Sunday. We just talked about
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: that in nineteen to two. Did manage win two to
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: three of the series. That's a good thing. Walk offs
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: on Friday and Saturday thanks to Reevoss and Randy the
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: Ams remaining three games back in the OL West and
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: Wild Card. Great pitching Duel Tonight, Logan, Gilbert Zach Wheeler,
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: Phillies in town for a three game series. They're really,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: really a good baseball team. Nine straight wins for them.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: Forty nine Ers.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: Owner and CEO Jed York was arrested in Ohio this weekend.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: No contests. He pleaded to misdemeanor charges of sorely conduct
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: possession of criminal tools.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: Sounds like a little prostitution action. Yeah.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: Here in Sale, we just call that getting a massage
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: after golf. But that's okay, you do you by the way,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: that John Lund will answer for that tomorrow.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 3: On the radio show forty nine Ers. You better my God.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: Satur snappedon eight game losing streak and Sanity had a
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: one one draw yesterday against Cincinnati in the WNBA Storm
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: lost again. They got beat by the Wings ninety two
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: to seventy. There were seven to thirty one in the
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: season Wazu is just named it starting quarterback for this season.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: He'll make his starting debut and his Wazuo debut in
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: the Apple Cup. Hear, and what would that be? Thirteen
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: days time? You see Davis transfer Cayden Pinnock, who was
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: the big Skuy freshman the year last year, will be
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: Wazoos starter. All right, Moving into the next hour, rolling along,
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: I told you had some roster moves for the Seattle Seahawks.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: So the Seahawks made one move today, but not a
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: corresponding move. They waved running back Anthony Hankerson, undrafted rookie
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: who signed with the team last week. He was previously
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: at Oregon State. I'm gonna give you two things with him.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: One he now goes and they'll see if he clears waivers.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: He played two seasons at Colorado, then two seasons at
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: Oregon State. He had over one thousand yards each of
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: his last two seasons with the Beavers, had twenty four
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: touchdowns for the program as well in his forty four
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: collegiate games. I want you remember that forty four collegiate games.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: There are twelve games in a season. If you do
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: the math, he would have played four years in college
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: to get to forty four, right, correct, Because if he
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: just played all twelve and three years, that would be
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: thirty six. Even if he played a bowl game three years,
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  Speaker 2: that would be thirty nine. So he played four years
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: in college. Keep that in mind, Drive, keep that in mind. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: So yesterday he played for Seattle and he had a
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  Speaker 2: total of twenty four snaps in the game. In an
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  Speaker 2: NFL preseason game. He played thirty five percent of the
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: plays on offense. Okay, that would be eighteen offensive plays.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: He also had six plays on special teams. That's twenty
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  Speaker 2: three percent, So he got significant time yesterday. Didn't put
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  Speaker 2: up big numbers by any stretch, but I mean nobody
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  Speaker 2: in the three to four group did. Let's see what
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: his final numbers were, Hankerson. Let's see five carries ten
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: yards long carry of four, so we had basically had
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: a couple carries with nothing. He also caught two balls
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: for nine yards in the game, so it was active.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: Probably like who hell's Anthony Hankerson's That's what it.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: Is, yeh.
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  Speaker 2: So he was out there doing his thing and playing
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: for Seattle yesterday. That's that's that's how the preseason works.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: Guy's getting a shot. Seahawks are thinn at running back.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: Given this guy a look, see what he looks like.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: So Hankerson played yesterday for Seattle wearing number thirty. They
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: waived him today. No corresponding move. But here's where it
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: gets just absolutely moronic, absolutely flat out moronic. Anthony Hankerson
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: hopes to be the latest player from the NFL well
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: training camps who goes back to college. Yes what Yes,
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: he joins a handful of others LSUS. Here's the thing,
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: a lot of this has felt like like LSU's kind
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: of been at the forefront Lane Kiffin specifically at the forefront.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: But everyone's involved. So, according to multiple sources, he plans
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: to if he clears waivers, which is a twenty four
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: hour process, he plans to enter the transfer portal and
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: return to college football. This all comes on the heels
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: of the de kuon Right situation. If you may not
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: know the name, but the lawsuit, he was one of
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: sixteen football players who fought a lawsuit against the NCAA
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: in the state of Louisiana.
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  Speaker 3: This past week.
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  Speaker 2: The court ruled that the sixteen players, some of whom
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: were competing in NFL training camps, actually a lot of
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: them could return to college with eligible for the twenty
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: twenty sixth season. Right the guy that led this suited
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: up for ole Miss last season, he's trying to go
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: to LSU. It sounds like he will go to LSU
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: if he's able to do it now. There's still some
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: court stuff going on and so on and so forth,
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: but Anthony Hankerson will be the latest to do that.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: There's been some guys that have returned, we think. I
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: know for my school for Wazoo, they had a couple
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: of linemen I think d linemen that were hoping to
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: or may have returned. I'm not sure their status. Sorry,
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  Speaker 2: I know Washington has had a couple guys that they
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: expected back. I'll ask Softy at two forty five because
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: I know they're outstanding kicker. Grady Gross thought his eligibility
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: is up and then was going to go back as
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: of late last week. But I saw Softy tweeted something
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: the other day that he didn't see him at practice,
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: So I don't know what's going on there. But Anthony
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: Hankerson is not good enough to be on a fifty
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: three man roster in the NFL as of right now,
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: but he would be good enough apparently to go into
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: the transfer portal and help college football team somewhere.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 3: For sure, he would be.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: He's a fringe NFL guy, fringe practice squad guy. That
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: makes you a good college player. It's as simple as that.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: I just travel.
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  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: It's a bigger issue. Benens in for me tomorrow. By
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: the way, I got a client we have a we
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: call it a client thing. We have a client thing
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: tomorrow with our friends of Stoklaoma Casino. So I will
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: be doing that and not be here. I may tackle
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: this harder on Wednesday. A conversation this weekend with some people.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: And I don't know what we're rooting for in college
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: sports anymore, if that makes sense. And what I mean
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: by that is there's always been kind of Hey, you're
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: rooting for your school, and the players that play on
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: your team or on your school's team that go to
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: that school, they're student athletes. Term that's been used forever.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: They're student athletes. Now you have guys going back for
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: like the final semester, and this happens at all levels.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: By the way, I don't have a problem with that.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: Like I know guys, you know small college players who
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: technically don't really read shirt. But the COVID year gave
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: a bunch of guys the opportunity two years ago to
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: go back for one more year because the twenty twenty
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: season was effectively lost. And a lot of those guys
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: were taking like one class, you know, and it was
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: online or maybe you know, some of them took more
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: than that, but they were taking one or two classes.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: That happens all the time major college football. Guys that
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: are in their fifth year, they've graduated, they're taking one
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: or two classes. Maybe they're starting grad school to see
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: if they're into it, but they're not doing a lot.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: But the majority of the students used to be student athletes.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: You would and I know, for me, I as I
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: live in a Pollyanna world, I get it, I mean,
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: and I'm old and all those things. I thought it
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: was damn cool when I went to class on occasion
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: that I would sit in I was a poly scign major,
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: I wasn't broadcasting as poly signed and I'd sit in class.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: And one of the guys I sat in class with
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: and had shared a lot of classes with, was Reuben
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: Mays ended up being a first round pick of the Saints.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: NFC Offensive Rookie of the Year in the NFL. Finished
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: his career here in Seattle. I still see him out
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: of training camp all the time. He's a really successful
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: businessman now. He works for and he's has worked for
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: a number of hospitals in this state and healthcare organizations
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: and so on and so forth. And Ruben's a great dude.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: But he was at the time one of the best
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: running backs in the country, and I thought, that's pretty cool.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: Number thirty six for my football team is in class
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: with me, as were other student athletes that wasn't. But
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: I thought that was kind of cool when I would see,
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: you know, after you know, you graduate and you go
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: back and you're like, okay, well, I know that the
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: majority of those guys are going to class in the
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: same buildings. I went to the same classrooms I was in,
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: studying the same bios I one O two that we
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: all hated whatever would have been, that's what it was.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: If you're a Husky fan, probably the same thing. It's
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: kind of cool, like, hey, like, you know, back in
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: the day, I'm going to school. Steve Entman's going to
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: class two, all right. Mario Bailey went to you know,
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: I and Mario greg Lewis the Hawks, Hugh Millons, damn academic,
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: all American, like he school's big for him and it
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: is for a lot of players. Jed Collins played a
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: long time in the NFL. It's a full back, full
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: backslash h back kind of when they had more of those.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: Played at Wazoo. Kid from California, ended up having a
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: nice college career undrafted, went to play in the NFL,
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: played a number years of the NFL, most notably with the
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: Saints with a guy named Drew Brees, and is now
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: really successful in what he works with a ton of
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: NFL teams doing financial presentations, especially the younger players. School
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: was really important to him, like that's that's an awesome thing.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 2: Like and the student body knows the players, they see
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: him on campus. I know that's all kind of gone away.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: COVID killed a lot of that because there's so much
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: remote learning now at the you know, at the at
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: the collegiate level. It's like, I understand that we're not
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: in the same world we used to be. But to
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: have guys that go and are in an NFL flip
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: and training camp one day and now the kid the
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: last week that had two sacks.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 3: It might have been right. I don't even know.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: Whatever had two sacks for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: a preseason game. Two sacks in the preseason game the
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: same as five carries. What the hell is the difference
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: they played in a preseason game for the NFL. Now
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: he's going back. Someone tell me how that makes sense.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: Somebody tell me how that makes sense. But I go
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: back to what I said before as far as like,
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: what are we rooting for?
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 3: So I said, what are we rooting?
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: I I I hear the talk. Someday we're just going
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: to have private equity firms or whoever's going to do it,
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: or leagues, they're just going to buy. They're going to
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: buy the name, the brand, the image, the school colors,
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: and they'll provide a roster. There was a great I mean,
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: and I can't. I was going to pull it and
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: have you. Maybe I'll do it Wednesday, Mogs. There's a
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: great interview on the Ball Brothers podcast with Max Crosby.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: The ball brother won two and three. I don't know
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: how many there are, right, but they're doing and they
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 2: had Max Crosby sitting there. The Raiders outstanding defensive end,
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: and Crosby is kind of He's like a lot of
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: us would have had opportunities. Blah blah blah. He says,
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: what I don't get, what I'll never get, we'll never understand.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: He says, I don't know if I can trust I
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: don't know if I can trust a teammate that's been
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: to five schools in five years, because I look at
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: them and say, what the hell are you doing? And
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: I'm paraphrasing Crosby, but he was really critical of that,
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: and and he said, like, I just I don't I'm
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: transferring one time for whatever reason makes sense, everyone does it, Yeah,
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: but multiple times to transfer multiple times and just like
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna play five years, six years?
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 4: What have you?
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: But a lot? But that's that's kind of half the story.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: The other part that got me with what Crosby said,
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: and I think this is the part that really kind
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: of jumped out of me. Max Crosby said, these guys
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: think they're bleeping pros. They're not pros. Maybe minor pros,
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: but they're not pros. They're not NFL guys that are
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: transferred four, five and six times. If you notice this
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: year the Seahawks were they had an interesting draft strategy
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: this season. The only player I believe that transferred that
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: they drafted was Julian Neil and he went from Fresno
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: to the SEC, which one hundred percent makes sense. You're
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: in the Mountain West. You got a chance to go
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: for one year, two years, whatever it is to go
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: play in the SEC. One hundred percent get that. And
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 2: and the money's crazy. I heard a story the other
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: day about what John Mattier was offered at Wazoo and
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: what he ended up getting it at Oklahoma.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 3: Can't blame him.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: I'll blame him for tapping out in the season, and
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: I'll blame our buckle of the old OC for tapping
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 2: out in the middle of the season. Those two guys
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: mailed in the final six five six games. I'll blame
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: him for that. I'm taking the money, I get that.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: But Mateir was there. He was seen on campus like
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: this this world now where you're playing in the NFL
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: and then you're gonna roll back in take one online
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: class after being an NFL training camp. I just can't.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: It's just too much. It's too far for me. But
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: I think what I'll bring this up a little bit more.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: I think on Wednesday. I rooting for laundry, isn't it
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: for me?
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 4: Just for me?
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: I root for the I root for the school, and
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: if you're not a part of the school, I have
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 2: a hard time with that. I love college football, I
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 2: love college basketball. And for those that say I mean
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: to talk about just splitting you know football and maybe
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: major you know college basketball away, I don't.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: I haven't heard an argument yet that makes sense. Because
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: we have to forget about we can't forget about one thing.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: There's other student athletes at that school. What do you
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: do for all the other sports that are non revenue generating?
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: And trust me, all the rest of them are non
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: revenue generating. The only thing, by and large, with a
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: handful of exceptions across the country, and I mean a handful,
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: the only things that make money are football. Sometimes men's basketball,
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: but not all men's basketball teams make money. Sometimes women's basketball.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at U Yukon, maybe UCLA, but probably not.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 3: I don't think. I bet UCLA doesn't make money. They don't,
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 3: They don't know anybody.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: Nobody goes against LSU may she may. I think South Carolina,
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: I think DOS Staley. Yeah, sure, there's a couple of
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 2: big hockey programs that do alright. Minnesota, for example, does
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: well at Boston Boston College, Boston U. Yeah, but really,
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: by and large, most student athletes are representing their schools.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 3: There.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: Their sports don't make money, but the representative schools. What
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 2: do we do with the rest of those people? What
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 2: do we do with them? They're true student athletes.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know if Archie Man has ever been to
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: a classroom that's at University of Texas. It's been there
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: the whole time. So I guess, right and deal with that.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: But this thing with Hankerson, I'm just shaking my head.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: And he's remember he's the second Seahawk running back in
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: two weeks to play a preseason game and then leave
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: and decide he's going to go back into the transfer portal.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 4: TJ.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: Harden was the guy last week. Hankerson replaced Harden who
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: they waived last week, so he go back to college, right,
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 2: So I don't know modes, It's just it's it's hard
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: for me.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 3: I see that.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: You know, Hey, U C Davis transfer Kayden Pennick, He's
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: gonna be starting for Wazoo. I just talked about transfers. Well,
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: that's his one transfer. I would hope if he has
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: a great year, though it won't be his last. If
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: he has a great year at Wazoo, he won't. He'll
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: he'll head out next year too, be thanks for coming.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: And in a way he goes. I have my doubts
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 2: that'll happen. But a way he goes was we had
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: three quarterbacks battling for one job. Two of the three
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: guys are transfers. The other guy freshman. He'll probably tap out.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: If he's not now, he's not the now, he's not
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: gonna start. Probably leaves, Probably leaves. That's just that's that's
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: how it works. Compete. Such a weird thing too, with football,
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: because there's I mean, we just saw this with the Seahawks.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: The injuries happen, and they happen fast and quick. Depth
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: charts mean nothing. You pop up on that depth chart
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: in two days, be right back up there. But I'm
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: just trying to wrap my arms around it.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 3: Still.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: Maybe I'm just old man yelling at clouds. I'm sure
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 2: if I look at the text on here in the
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 2: next segment, that's what it's gonna say.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 3: It just doesn't make sense. I can't make sense of it.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 3: I do not. I do not.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: Like where we're at. More importantly, I'm really afraid of
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: where we're going in college football.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 2: And when I say college football, I should include all
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: college sports because there's a lot of sports at risk here.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: I'll never forget the interview probably a year and a
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: half ago, Heather Tarr was on the Great Softball Coach
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: at Washington. No coach, not Don James. The only person
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 2: that has any any debate in terms of being the
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 2: best coach at Washington, Washington's athletic history. It's DJ Or
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: it's her probably all due respect, Hugh, don't yell at
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 2: me if you're listening, Mario whoever. Her accomplishments were through
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: the roof while she was when she's at Washington. We'll
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 2: never forget the interview she's on with Softy and Fame
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: and she says, and she was just sideways about this
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: whole big ten thing. Well, that ship sailed. That's fine,
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: I've bet in the back of her mind though, she's wondering,
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 2: like where does it go next? Like where does it
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 2: go next? I don't know. Nobody seems to know. The
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 2: weirdest thing like if you would have told somebody six
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: months ago that you're going to have sixteen players and
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 2: twelve of those players, twelve of those sixteen will have
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: been in NFL training camps, will have played at NFL
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: preseason games, and then somehow they're going to end up
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: back in college football in the fall of twenty twenty six. People,
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 2: you're nuts. We'll be talking about how can that happen?
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: How can that happen?
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 3: It just it's it.
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 2: It used to be if you've got a stipend to
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 2: play something like summer baseball, minor league baseball, or whatever
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: the WHL. If you played for the Sale Thunderge, you
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: couldn't play college hockey because you got a five hundred
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: dollar month stipend.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 3: Same with every singer.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: Now that's changed, obviously and rightfully so probably because now
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: people getting the name, image and li just getting the
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: money and all those things. But this is just insane
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: at absolutely insane. So you can come in on that
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 2: four nine four to five one, that is the Takomadage
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 2: text on four nine four to five one. Also fire
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 2: away any talkbacks you like, go to the red microphone
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app. Mogues will check those out coming
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: up in the next segment and we'll find out there.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: But yeah, this was this is this is insane.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 2: And the funny thing is, ironically, it's back to back weeks.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: When a Seahawk running back has left the team or
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: been cut and ends up going and joining a call
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: or tries to go into transfer portal. Hankerson's Gonne hundred
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 2: percent end up in the SEC Colorado Big twelve, Oregon State.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 2: Probably God, if he ends up at LSU. Man maybe
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 2: if he ends I kind of hope he does end
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: up at LSU, because then maybe just turns into a
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin deal and we can all yelt Lane, which
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 2: everyone likes you on the lane, so that's probably a
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 2: good thing. All Right, we come back, I'll tell you,
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 2: I'll give you an update on the Mayor of Maple
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: Valve or the Mayor IPA down at Georgetown where we're
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: at in terms of beer sales, and I'm assuming you're
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: gonna need to get down there fairly soon. We'll find
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: out how that's looking. We'll do that when we come back.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 2: We'll check your text four nine four to five one.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: It's coming on text line. That's three point three KDFM.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 8: This is the ancient Mariner. I spoke over the weekend
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 8: Mike Cameron, Ritchie Sex and Bill Krueger and Kenny Phelps,
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 8: and they all want their number back, Julio Ian.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 9: There's so many other hills to die on. College football
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 9: is getting weird and weirder. There's no reason to always
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 9: complain about it, man, Just stop complaining about it and
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 9: like it or I don't know, just complaining on air
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 9: is getting a little annoying. I'll just throw it out there,
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 9: just I don't know. I love college football. Nothing will ever, ever, ever, ever,
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 9: ever deteriorate.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 4: That for me.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, my my apologies fella for having an opinion complain. Sure,
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: I guess we asked complaining. I I like, I love
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: college football. I hate where college football is going right now?
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 2: Is that a complainer an opinion? I can't tell, mogor
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 2: what is that?
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 3: I think it's both. Maybe it's both. Yeah, Okay, oh.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: God, it's Monday. Glad I'm not here tomorrow. I couldn't
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: handle five days of this. I seriously couldn't have. I
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 2: honestly couldn't handle five days of this. If like and
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 2: everyone's different, you know, I was just talking as just
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 2: texting my buddy Curtis Crabtree about this, you know, and
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 2: there's a feeling, Oh, it's just a one off this
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: year because of the class, the class twenty twenty two guys, right,
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: the five and five. I strongly disagree. You know why
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 2: two words billable hours, billable hours, lawyers and lawsuits. There's
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: money to be made. You're blindly naive. The thing that's
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 2: wild about this, it's kind of crazy, to be honest
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 2: with you, is again, if we would have looked back
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: six months, if I would have told you two months ago,
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 2: three months ago, Hey, log, you're not gonna believe this
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 2: guy that just carried the ball five times for the
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 2: sex preseason games back in college.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 3: Are you serious? That's a new one.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 2: Players getting paid, that's fine, like good long overdue, long overdue.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's there's also a thing with the payment,
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 2: which is another thing that's just kind of crazy, the
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 2: whole payment world of guys getting paid. It's I kind
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 2: of equate it a little bit to the World Cup situation.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 2: Remember when the women were going banana is about they
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 2: needed to have as much the same money as the US.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 2: The men's national teams One of the arguments was as well,
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 2: I mean equal pay, equal all this, and then hey,
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 2: they're better anyway, which they are. They win World Cups
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: and don't get passive nine to sixteen. But the issue
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 2: is this, it's what does the league generate revenue wise?
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 2: Like what are you worth? You're not worth. The Men's
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: World Cup is in the billions, the women's is not.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 2: In terms of media rights and all that, Yeah, eyeballs
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 2: and all those things. You can say the same thing
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 2: for pro sports. Why do the MLS players not make
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 2: as much as NHL players and NHL players don't make
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 2: as much as NBA players who don't make as much
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 2: as NFL play whatever? It might be right because of
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 2: the money involved. Not every college program, every college athlete
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: is generating revenue. In fact, most of them aren't. Right.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: So anyway, sure, maybe I'm complaining too much. I'm sorry,
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: It's a Monday. Should I not complain? I won't complain anymore?
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 4: All right?
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: Four nine four five one? Let me go some Texas. Oh,
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: I do want to say this, we I want to mention,
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: make make mensure of this. So I did get a
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 2: text back in regards to the mayor.
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 3: I PA so.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 2: They've had a massive they have they have, they had
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 2: a mass. We had a massive weekend in terms of
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 2: what they sold. So what they just what my I,
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 2: Guy Peter and and uh and Dave down to Georgetown said,
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 2: is this So the Mayor, I PA, it has a
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 2: chance to be there on Friday morning, be very surprised
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: past Friday or early Saturday. This is going to sell
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 2: out in seven or eight days, flying off the shelves.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 2: So yeah, So if if it's limited release, it's a
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: really good beer, three really good causes, I would just
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: if you haven't got it yet, or you got someone
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 2: you want another growler or two to bring home and
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 2: they'll last a couple of weeks in your fridge where
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 2: I was about two weeks in the fridge, then get
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 2: down there. I would get down there by Thursday. Just
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: get there by Thursday because it's gonna be gone. And
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 2: I just I thank everybody for the support drinking beer
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: for great causes.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 3: Can't get it.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 2: Doesn't get any better than that, So get down there
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 2: by Thursday. Maybe it'll be there Friday afternoon when you
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 2: get off work, but I would get there by Thursday.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 2: If you can't four nine four five one all right,
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 2: here we go. Two five three says falling Julio is
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 2: borderline pathetic. Nobody makes grounding out or with and completely
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 2: on a ball outside his own look more cool than
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 2: Julio Rodriguez. I wish I could strut with that much
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 2: confidence while being that bad.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 3: I actually feel.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 2: Bad for Julio yesterday when they called the ball on
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 2: Miller and because he was out there chucking baseballs into
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 2: the stands, which is cool. I mean, that's fun. It's baseball,
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 2: the warm up basically the warm up balls. Yeah, and
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: he was just late in doing it, and then they
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: look out there. The look on his face was like
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 2: like he got scolded by his mom and dad or something.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 3: It was. It was I felt bad for the guy.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 2: My god, all right, but it's a lack of focus,
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 2: and I think is one that maybe is more indicative
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 2: of what's going on in the clubhouse and through the organization.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: You know, people were talking about we mentioned this, daniel'
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 2: neil and I were talking about it on Friday. I
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: can't even fathom something like that happening under lou Okay,
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: how about another sport? Mike holmgrin, Oh god, no, hell,
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 2: you guys, watch hard knocks, you think some sort of
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: you know, absolute brain fart like that would be tolerated
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 2: by Mike McDonald.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 3: No, no chance.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: But you know what the other part of it is,
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: it wouldn't be tolerated by the rest of the team.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 2: That's the thing, Like you, we don't know what goes
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 2: on in the Maria's clubhouse. There's no hard knocks or baseball.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 2: We don't see it and hear it and so forth.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 2: But if you've watched any of the hard knocks, and
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: this is a lot of teams do this way, but
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 2: we'll just use this one. See how this year it's
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: our example. Like when you listen to those guys like,
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 2: do you think Leonard Willams would be cool with that stuff?
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 3: No?
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: Jared Reid went after Derek calling the sideline during a
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 2: game for a dumb ass play. Yeah, right, there's accountability,
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: exactly exactly. All right, let's see, uh three to six?
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 2: Oh great, a player gets hot, Randy, the Marriyors will
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 2: pay up. Then he will play like black next year.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I don't know about that. I
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: I thought he was gone as good as gone when
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 2: we when we heard Scott Boris talk about it with
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: softy and fame a couple of weeks ago, a few
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 2: weeks ago. I think that was pre trade deadline as well.
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 2: Now now, I mean he's gonna get paid. He is
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: gonna get paid big money, big, big money. Two f three.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 2: What's going on with Tory Horton? Why he is always
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 2: so secret with him? Are you concerned about wide receiver
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 2: dep Yeah, the the Tory Horton stuff is weird.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 3: We had him, I had him on my show.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 2: I had him on the show, on the on my
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 2: interview him out at the Virginia Mason Athletic Center, probably
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 2: about two two and a half weeks ago. Fun interview,
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: good guy, really likable, was talking about I'm one hundred
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 2: percent healthy, I'm feeling great, no problem with the shin
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 2: the rod and everything was great. Then mist like a
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 2: lot of times, and this is the weird pick because
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 2: there is a mysterious thing about this or secretive.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 3: As they said, you.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 2: Don't have to you don't have to announce injuries during
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 2: training camp, so that's part of it. There's no injury
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 2: report and all that, so that that kind of goes
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 2: by the wayside. But one of the things that usually
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 2: if you see a guy get like you'll see a
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 2: guy get hurt in practice, like when Jake Bubble got
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: hurt in the joint practice, like everyone knew he was hurt.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 2: Over the years, there's been Unfortunately, there's always dozens of
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 2: times that you see guys carted off or limp off.
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: With the Tory Horton, it's like one day, it feels
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 2: like this one day wasn't out there. It's like the
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 2: hell happened Tory Horton. Yeah, he's hurt again, like last year,
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 2: just kind of disappeared.
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Am I concerned about wide receiver depth? Yes?
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: I am now because one and two and three no concerns.
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 2: Shaheed Cup JSN. Tory Horton four. I would have I
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 2: would have made the argument of Tory Horton's healthy and
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 2: maybe he will be by the time the season starts.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 2: Tory Horton number four, and that's your one, two, three, four.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 2: That's a hell of a group. That's a hell of
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 2: a group. So I had no problem with that. Julio
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 2: two for the last twenty six two and the two
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 2: are Bowl singles. Yeah, he's I'm I'm he's been an issue.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 2: I'll go back to the cow cal to me, is
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 2: end of the career. Dave Kingman or Gordon Thomas or
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 2: somebody like that. He's gonna hit. He's gonna run into
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 2: a couple of balls and hit a couple of home
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 2: runs and still hit under two hundred. He's under one sixty.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: Now he's in one fifty eight. I believe it is. Yeah,
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 2: that's just wild.
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 3: It's remarkable. Four two five, it's official.
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 2: Jalen Milrose of Bust still looks confused after all year
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 2: in the NFL, especially after multiple interceptions against Tenessee Titans
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: backups and so much for his vaunted running skills are
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 2: showing to be just underserved hype after being caught in
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 2: the backfield multiple times. I thought this was kind of
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 2: a big preseason for him. I would say Friday is
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 2: probably a really big game for him. They're not gonna
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 2: cut him, by the way, if everybody's wondering about that,
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 2: thinking he's a they're gonna cut him, he's a boss
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 2: or what. That's not gonna happen. Third round pick. They
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 2: got money invested him, they got time invested him. Here's
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 2: the thing they you know, like Houston, he doesn't look
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 2: like a two in the NFL, right now.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 3: He's a three. Fine, he didn't have to be a two.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 2: Unless God forbid something happens to Sam Darnold or or
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 2: Drew Locke, then then you got to be concerned because
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 2: that's your next guy up. But right now he's effectively
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 2: in the minor leagues. He's playing in practice and he's
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 2: doing like he's a minor league Like, that's perfect. Develop
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 2: You got two more you got him out of contract
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 2: for two more years, and hopefully you'll see some development
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 2: along the way with him as well. I think calling
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 2: him a bust is a little bit premature too early.
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 2: I think it's a little bit premature.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 3: But a lot of Julio techs.
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  Speaker 2: Julo is just a pretty good player. He's not a
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 2: great player and definitely not a superstars as a five
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  Speaker 2: on nine. They paid him like that, though they didn't
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 2: pay him as a good player. They paid him a
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 2: lot more than that. Now it's a team friendly deal.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 2: But yeah, that's that's man.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, I saw him DJ at the hom
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  Speaker 3: on Derby. Yeah, that night, I didn't think he was
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 3: very good.
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  Speaker 2: Dj oh whoa whoa Hey hot take. That is a
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 2: hot take, and that might be more important anything else
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 2: that might be uh final one, four two five. Thanks
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  Speaker 2: you for finally saying the truth about Hulio. Does that
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 2: mean you may do the same with Matty Veneers. That's
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 2: Terry from Redmond. Oh wow, put me on the spot.
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 2: I think Maddi's a pretty good player. I don't think
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 2: Maddy's a superstar. Now could you get there?
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Maybe? Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, a bunch of pope asking about the mayor merchandise
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 2: the let's see, let's see here we go. Is there
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 2: mayor merchandise available on town? Is the IPA available in
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 2: the stores? Will there'd be more mayor Maple Valley merch
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 2: They were out of my shirt size went their Saturday?
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 2: Did get important thing that I got the beer? Whatever
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 2: they have down there for merch then that's it. That's
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 2: what that's what's there. So you can't you can't have
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 2: to buy it at the brewery as well. So if
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 2: you got it and the beer is not available anywhere. Besides,
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 2: we're gonna have a final cag night, which we'll announce
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 2: later on, like for the final final Keg, we'll announce
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 2: that that's coming up. Pobbing about a month or so.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 2: Haven't decided exactly the date and all that yet, but
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 2: we'll announce that. But as far as getting the beer
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 2: or the merchandise, gotta go to the brewery, okay, SOFTI
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 2: joins us from Jimmy's on first next. You just don't
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 2: like coming in the studio, dude, I just don't like you.
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 2: Is that what it is? I've found it might be meeting.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 2: I thought it might be me, but I wasn't sure.
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 4: Once I found out that you were in the studio,
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 4: I did a you turn.
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 2: It, came down here, went down to Jimmy's and said.
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm not going in there with that guy,
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 4: no chance.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 2: Why would you? Why would you do that?
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 10: I thought maybe you'd be a still Kwamie or you know,
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 10: maybe down at Georgetown or whatever.
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 2: So well, they if I could be a Georgetown or
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 2: still call me every day, I would they know that
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 2: for some reason frown upon that.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 10: So I don't know why you would not be there
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 10: every day. Were you in charge of your own show.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 3: There's no equipment. That's as simple as that.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 4: To jump on the phone like we used to back the.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 3: Old days of jumping on the telephone.
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I know, I shot, hey man, my stuff's not working. Well,
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 10: can you make a phone call?
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 2: Can you just jump on the phone, but it won't
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 2: be a hard line? Oh no, that's not gonna work.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no. When did you get rid of
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 3: your hardline? By the way, how long would I.
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 4: Got rid of mine? Boo boy? Three years ago? Maybe?
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 3: I think ours is three years ago.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 2: Ours is two and my wife still stresses that we
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 2: don't have one.
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 10: Yeah, every now and then, I stress every now and
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 10: then the cell phone signal breaks up or whatever.
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 4: But I don't real.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 10: Miss it, to be honest with you, don't even that's
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 10: so expensive to get one put in because nobody's using
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 10: him anymore.
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I didn't think about that.
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 2: Well, we don't even have We don't have near the
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 2: radio station. We we have the cloud based phones.
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 10: I think they're gonna let I think the phone companies
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 10: are gonna let the landline system network, if you will,
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 10: just fall apart, right and just fade into oblivion.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 3: That's it gone.
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 10: Like when was the last time you saw a construction
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 10: crew on the side of the road and you asked him,
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 10: what are you doing?
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 4: We're updating the landlines, right, That's never gonna happen.
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 2: Putting five on for your your phone sounds better at home,
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 2: I don't think.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 10: So just let the whole thing die, man, let it
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 10: all die anyway. Yeah, well, what do you think? Well,
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 10: do you think Mariners of the race Astros fired their
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 10: manager and GM today?
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 3: Not the manager, just GM.
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 4: Right, No, he's out, I spot it.
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 2: They told him, did they just doal that?
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 10: They told him he's not coming back at the end
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 10: of the year, and he has decided to uh pull
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 10: a Tyree Willingham and continue to coach the team between
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 10: now and the end of the season. I mean he
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 10: may be in the postseason for God's sake. Well, because
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 10: there's a rule in baseball. I'm not sure. It's a
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 10: little known rule.
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 4: You may not be aware of it, but I am.
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 4: I'm not.
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 10: Okay, I'll just inform you then that you cannot lose
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 10: the division to a team that fired their GM and
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 10: their manager.
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 4: You just can't. That would be the height of embarrassment.
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 2: So all they have to do is worry about Texas then, correct,
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 2: So don't even worry about it.
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 10: I believe Texas may have fired their president of baseball ops,
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 10: but I'm not one thousand percent Suow three of the
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 10: five teams I think have done that already. Yes, nay, yeah,
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 10: I was the Angels, A's and Astros did that.
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 4: So yeah.
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 2: Well and they're playing a team tonight, Seattle that I
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 2: don't know. They fired their manager and things have turned
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 2: out pretty good so far. Huh like this at least
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 2: nine straight wins.
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 10: Well, it's just amazing to me how it's the product
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 10: on the field that really matters and not where you
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 10: are on the standings. To some people, I know that's
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 10: a novel concept for a lot of owners to figure out.
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 10: But I mean, kudos to Houston, right they're like, hey,
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 10: in first place, what do we care we stink? Yeah,
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 10: we're a game under five hundred. Only reason why we're
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 10: in first place is because you stink too.
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 2: Well, you know what you stink, Texas State, everybody, everyone's awful.
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 10: The best thing, the best thing about this baseball team
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 10: right now has got nothing to do with them.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 4: God nothing. If this was a.
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 10: Normal year and they were eight or nine games out
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 10: of a playoff spot right now.
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard you mean, I heard you guys say
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 2: it last week and it's it's this is like you
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 2: just happen to be Nah, and just whatever in the
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 2: middle of the this this mushy middle pack that you're
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 2: in right now, and everyone is too. But yeah, normal year,
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 2: we'd be talking all football right now.
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 3: You probably should be.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 10: Honestly, you probably should be eleven or twelve games out. Well,
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 10: right now, let's seven games under five hundred. On the
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 10: twenty fourth of August, you really should be eleven or
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 10: twelve games out.
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 2: I'm just looking here. So sixty one are the Manors
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 2: mariag of sixty two and sixty.
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 4: Two and sixty nine.
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 2: So the closest comp in the National League would be
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Pirates sixty three and sixty nine, So a
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 2: halfway they are eight and a half games out of
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 2: a wildcard spot.
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 10: Right runs out at first place in their division. They're
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 10: eighteen and a half games out, partly because they're in
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 10: the same division as the Brewers. Okay, we'll take away
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 10: the Brewers and just go to the Cubs. They are
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 10: twelve and a half games out behind second place.
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 2: You're a normal year, at this point, we'd be doing
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent football.
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 10: They've finished, Yeah, finished finished, But go ahead, they got
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 10: a shot. Yeah, no, they got a shot. Hey, they're
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 10: in a playoff race. Man, I mean all those things
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 10: are true. The team stinks. Yeah, they've underachieved. Their offense
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 10: for the most part, is terrible. Their defense for the
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 10: most part is terrible. Their base running for the most
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 10: part is terrible. Their pitching staff has been I think,
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 10: you know, underwhelming by their standards.
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 3: There for sure.
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 10: Absolutely, the leadership has been terrible. The communication has been terrible.
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 10: And yet they're in a playoff race.
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 2: Well that's true, all that's all that's true. And then
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 2: and they take on a team tonight and you look
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 2: at the pitching matchup. I saw this. Oh god, Zach Wheeler,
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, he hasn't he hasn't had a win
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 2: since July twelfth.
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 10: Yeah, but he's got a two point six to seven
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 10: each the road, which it's trud.
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 3: But it's weird. Look at his last his last six
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 3: stars have been not good.
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 2: Like he's but due that. Well, that's the other thing.
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 2: You'd Oh my god, he's due. He's probably due. Guys
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 2: on guys on pace for twenty wins. And he goes
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 2: to this littletre their team's killing it. He's not great. Yeah,
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 2: he's probably due. He's probably he's probably due to spin
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 2: a what a seven and the third innings three hits,
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 2: one run game coming in here?
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 3: Is that what he's gonna do?
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 10: I mean he had against the Dodgers at the Dodgers
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 10: in July twenty first seven innings, two runs, yep, at
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 10: Chavez Ravine and then home against the uh Actually sorry
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 10: that was in Philadelphia. But his last three road starts
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 10: three innings, five two winnings have shutout ball and then
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 10: he got pulled. I have no idea what happened there.
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 10: The Baltimore Cardinals, Cardinals five and four, Tigers six and none,
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 10: Red seven and one. I mean it's really his last
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 10: five his last six row it starts, five of them,
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 10: four of them have been pretty good.
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 2: Wait, so he's he's the anti Brian Wu.
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 4: Correct, that is what you're telling. Correct, he pitches very
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 4: well on the road.
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 2: We'd rather see him in Philadelphia. Correct, Well, you know why,
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 2: because guys like SHOCKI you are hanging out in Philadelphia
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 2: and they're just miserable and they're yelling at people and
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 2: probably nobody wants to play there.
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 4: So have you been to the new ball park out
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 4: there by the way in Philly.
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 2: I've been by because I've been to the state the
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 2: football seam a bunch of times, so I've been by
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 2: it looks all right.
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 3: Nothing.
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 4: I was at the old Vet like twenty five.
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 2: You survived total dump, and you survived better.
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 10: I remember there was a guy selling programs out of
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 10: a shopping cart. Oh god, there was a You know
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 10: how the visiting teams provide bat boys for the composing
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 10: teams or at home teams. Right, there was a bat
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 10: boy for the Mariners that day that he must have
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 10: been thirteen years old, weigh about one hundred and ninety pounds,
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 10: and he was hearing it from.
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 4: The Philly fans.
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 2: God, from the Philly fans.
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 10: Oh, this poor little bast Oh, each youierro, each youiro
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 10: hearing it from the Philly fans.
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, the.
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 10: Vet God, nothing nothing appropriate that all comes out in
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 10: their mouth?
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 4: Whatsoever? All right?
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 2: Well, speaking of nothing appropriate coming out of somebody's mouth,
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 2: when you got for the next four hours.
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 10: Oh yes, Bill Kruger will join us, Hugh Millan will
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 10: join us. We'll talk a lot of Mariners. Obviously, you
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 10: guys named the starting quarterback today.
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 3: You see that Keatan Pinnick.
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, last time we saw him, he was ripping
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 10: it up against the Huskies.
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 3: Do you really rip it up today, didn't you? Guys?
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 3: Torch those guys pretty bad?
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 4: Eight of sixteen fifty yards and a seventy to ten loss.
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 3: Oh good, Yeah, that's fun.
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 2: Well, as I said earlier, doesn't matter if he has
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 2: a good if he has if he has a good season,
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 2: he'll be he'll be playing in uh for whoever next year.
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 4: So what, he'll have a better team around him.
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 10: I guarantee you that, because that UC Davis.
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 4: We'll see.
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 2: All right, Hey, have a great day, are you too?
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 5: Thanks for the mild mannered and marginally objectionably Inverness this
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 5: is paddle day saying so long everyone,