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- 0:03Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
- 0:06Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
- 0:10Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey,
- 0:13Speaker 1: and my own creation, the Love and Marriage franchise and
- 0:17Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the
- 0:23Speaker 1: Real Housewives franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset. in
- 0:27Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
- 0:31Speaker 1: scripted as well.
- 0:36Speaker 2: Friend to the show, T.S.
- 0:37Speaker 1: Madison was on her podcast Outlaws with T.S.
- 0:43Speaker 2: Madison.
- 0:44Speaker 1: She had Candace Diller Bassett, friend to the show from
- 0:47Speaker 1: Potomac Housewives.
- 0:49Speaker 2: And a lot of people took T.S.
- 0:51Speaker 1: Madison's commentary and y'all ran with it. So I want
- 0:55Speaker 1: to be very clear to what she said and what
- 0:58Speaker 1: she didn't say. So long story short, T.S. Madison, they
- 1:02Speaker 1: were talking about Housewives and T.S. Madison said she thinks
- 1:06Speaker 1: what Real Housewives of Atlanta is missing is her.
- 1:10Speaker 2: She thinks what.
- 1:11Speaker 1: The Real Housewives of Atlanta is missing is her.
- 1:16Speaker 2: Okay?
- 1:17Speaker 1: She did not make this, because a lot of y'all said, oh,
- 1:22Speaker 1: is she saying that what's missing is a transgender woman?
- 1:25Speaker 2: She said what's missing is T.S. Madison missing. her, right?
- 1:30Speaker 2: Law Roach, stylist to the stars.
- 1:34Speaker 1: He also mentioned that he wants to be on Atlanta
- 1:36Speaker 1: Housewives 2 Child. His dream is to have a peach too, honey.
- 1:41Speaker 1: So I wanted to have a conversation about this. Starting
- 1:44Speaker 1: with you, Dustin. Atlanta Housewives is back. I'm loving this
- 1:50Speaker 1: new cast. I think they're great.
- 1:52Speaker 2: T.S.
- 1:52Speaker 1: Madison's a friend to my. Happy Libra birthday, T.S.
- 1:56Speaker 2: Madison.
- 1:57Speaker 1: But Dustin, Do you think what's missing from the Real
- 2:02Speaker 1: Housewives of Atlanta is T.S.
- 2:04Speaker 2: Madison and Law Roach?
- 2:07Speaker 3: Here's what I think. I think that when it comes
- 2:10Speaker 3: to entertainment value, having a personality that is interesting, being
- 2:15Speaker 3: able to be comedic off the dome, you know, these
- 2:19Speaker 3: are things that contribute to entertainment value, which is why T.S.
- 2:22Speaker 3: Madison has already executive produced her own reality series on
- 2:26Speaker 3: WeTV called executive produced her own talk show on Fox Soul,
- 2:30Speaker 3: and she'll continue to do many, many more things. So
- 2:33Speaker 3: if the question is, would T.S. Madison add to the
- 2:36Speaker 3: already existing entertainment value of the Real Housewives of Atlanta?
- 2:40Speaker 3: Of course she would. She would add value to anything
- 2:43Speaker 3: that she participates in or contributes to because she's a
- 2:47Speaker 3: great fucking television personality. She's a talented host. She's a
- 2:51Speaker 3: great writer.
- 2:52Speaker 4: She's funny.
- 2:53Speaker 3: So she adds value to anything that she participates in.
- 2:56Speaker 3: What I'm not going to do is get into a
- 2:57Speaker 3: debate with these people who are low vibrational and only
- 3:01Speaker 3: want to focus on her being a transgender woman and
- 3:04Speaker 3: really want to have that conversation of whether or not
- 3:07Speaker 3: a transgender woman would fit into an ensemble cast like
- 3:11Speaker 3: the Real Housewives of Atlanta, because that's a different conversation
- 3:15Speaker 3: that I'm not a part of. But do I think
- 3:17Speaker 3: that T.S. Madison would add value to anything that she
- 3:20Speaker 3: contributes to?
- 3:21Speaker 5: Absolutely.
- 3:22Speaker 3: And I love T.S.
- 3:23Speaker 5: Madison.
- 3:24Speaker 3: So that's that. Law Roach has a polarizing personality. So
- 3:28Speaker 3: I love seeing him infiltrate many different spaces. He's an
- 3:31Speaker 3: incredible style architect, according to his own words. He's been
- 3:36Speaker 3: a hell of a judge. He's got people watching Project
- 3:38Speaker 3: Runway that never watched it before. So he's incredible over there.
- 3:42Speaker 3: And he's another polarizing television personality. Don't necessarily think the
- 3:47Speaker 3: Real Housewives of Atlanta is the right place for him.
- 3:50Speaker 3: But hey, putting him on television and letting people see him,
- 3:53Speaker 3: I think is a great idea. So those are my thoughts.
- 3:57Speaker 3: Shout out to TS motherfucking Madison.
- 4:00Speaker 6: Yes.
- 4:01Speaker 2: Blue to Luzma.
- 4:03Speaker 5: I think it's very odd and hypocritical that people who
- 4:07Speaker 5: watch a show called Real Housewives of Atlanta are going
- 4:12Speaker 5: to say things like, well, she's not a biological woman.
- 4:15Speaker 5: And so she.
- 4:16Speaker 6: Can't be a housewife. A lot of y'all faves are
- 4:18Speaker 6: not housewives either. If we can have a show called
- 4:20Speaker 6: Real Housewives of Atlanta with only two housewives, why can't
- 4:23Speaker 6: we have a trans woman? I'm going to say it.
- 4:24Speaker 5: I don't mind.
- 4:26Speaker 6: What is more Atlanta than having the Liga Biga Tiga
- 4:28Speaker 6: community represented? Have y'all been to Atlanta? Can we be honest?
- 4:32Speaker 2: T.S.
- 4:32Speaker 6: Madison, I think, would be an exceptional addition as a housewife.
- 4:36Speaker 6: And honestly, and Carlos, this is something I mentioned to
- 4:38Speaker 6: you a couple years ago. I do believe there was
- 4:40Speaker 6: a time in Atlanta's history, the Real Housewives franchise, where queer...
- 4:46Speaker 6: people were used as accessories, what better way to come
- 4:49Speaker 6: full circle than to center one? Y'all didn't mind the
- 4:52Speaker 6: Miss J's or whatever, like, you didn't mind having a
- 4:55Speaker 6: queer person as a sidekick, but now that a queer
- 4:57Speaker 6: person wants to be centered, right, and I'm using queer
- 5:00Speaker 6: as in the margins, right, not mainstream, now somebody under
- 5:04Speaker 6: the rainbow wants to be centered and it's a problem,
- 5:05Speaker 6: but when they want to hold somebody's purse or style them,
- 5:08Speaker 6: you think that's cute.
- 5:09Speaker 5: No, I think because of the.
- 5:11Speaker 6: Long history Atlanta's had with the queer community, centering someone
- 5:15Speaker 6: from that same community particularly someone who is so beloved
- 5:18Speaker 6: in that area makes perfect sense. I don't need to
- 5:20Speaker 6: mince my words. I think she's as good as a
- 5:22Speaker 6: housewife as any. And also can we be very, very honest?
- 5:26Speaker 6: I think there's a healing opportunity to have her on
- 5:29Speaker 6: because she's not apologetic about the space that she takes up.
- 5:32Speaker 6: Not all gay people are created the same. Not all
- 5:34Speaker 6: black people are created the same. I think as far
- 5:36Speaker 6: as trans representation is, I think she's so comfortable in
- 5:39Speaker 6: her skin and she's so successful. There's a way that
- 5:42Speaker 6: she could do it where she, I think, has the
- 5:43Speaker 6: right thick skin for it. Because there's nothing worse than
- 5:46Speaker 6: having someone come on and having a big personality and
- 5:48Speaker 6: they shrink, right? We spent half the season, well, 17
- 5:51Speaker 6: out of 19 episodes talking about how K. Michelle disappointed
- 5:53Speaker 6: us because she wasn't big.
- 5:55Speaker 1: T.S.
- 5:55Speaker 6: Madison would be the perfect response to all of that.
- 5:57Speaker 6: So I'm here for it, trans or otherwise. She didn't
- 5:59Speaker 6: say trans, I'm saying trans.
- 6:01Speaker 5: I'm here for it.
- 6:03Speaker 2: Claudia? So they had, again.
- 6:07Speaker 4: T.S. Madison did not say because she's trans, was not
- 6:10Speaker 4: leading with that. And I appreciate that for her to
- 6:12Speaker 4: just say it's based on my personality. I don't need
- 6:14Speaker 4: to mention that. And I love that. I don't think
- 6:16Speaker 4: we should be leading with that. I think we should
- 6:18Speaker 4: lead with who we are as people, as talents. I
- 6:20Speaker 4: think people got to stop thinking I should get that
- 6:22Speaker 4: job because I'm trans or I should get this job
- 6:24Speaker 4: because I'm gay or I should get that job because
- 6:25Speaker 4: I'm straight. You should get the job because you're good
- 6:28Speaker 4: at it and you're good for it. And that's that.
- 6:31Speaker 4: I disagree about her being on the show only because
- 6:33Speaker 4: of this. Would she be an asset anyway? She goes,
- 6:36Speaker 4: hell yeah. Highly entertaining. Doesn't need an ensemble cast. Tia
- 6:39Speaker 4: Madison needs her own show because she's that big of
- 6:41Speaker 4: a personality and everybody around her in her world. I
- 6:43Speaker 4: think that's a better fit for Tia Madison. And this
- 6:46Speaker 4: is another reason. As someone that used to talk to
- 6:47Speaker 4: Tia Madison an awful lot, Tia Madison is very private
- 6:51Speaker 4: with her personal life now. We never hear about anyone
- 6:53Speaker 4: she's dating. And I think that show would be terrible
- 6:56Speaker 4: for her in that regard. because that show was all
- 6:59Speaker 4: about exposing and all that kind of stuff. And I
- 7:01Speaker 4: would not want to see that for T.S. Madison, unless
- 7:04Speaker 4: she wanted that, unless she wanted that. Cause when you
- 7:07Speaker 4: go on there, here goes everybody hiring private, they'd be
- 7:10Speaker 4: hiring private investigators and try to get a little drop
- 7:13Speaker 4: the mic moment on you. And I would hate to
- 7:14Speaker 4: see that get ugly. But as far as T.S. Madison,
- 7:17Speaker 4: there is no doubt in my mind that any show
- 7:19Speaker 4: that T.S. Madison is on is going to bring it
- 7:21Speaker 4: and going to bring numbers because the fan base is there.
- 7:24Speaker 2: But yeah.
- 7:24Speaker 4: Um, I mean, I know I'm a fan of Tia's Mask.
- 7:28Speaker 4: I think Tia's Mask is highly entertaining.
- 7:30Speaker 2: Yeah. No, she is. And Blue brought up a good point.
- 7:34Speaker 1: So I started my career in reality television, as you
- 7:37Speaker 1: all know, doing Atlanta Housewives in 2008. And I was
- 7:41Speaker 1: living in New York City at the time, specifically Brownsville,
- 7:45Speaker 1: Sutter at Rutland Road train station stop. Okay.
- 7:50Speaker 4: Oh, wow.
- 7:50Speaker 5: Okay. Okay.
- 7:52Speaker 6: You've come a long way, baby.
- 7:53Speaker 2: I've come a long way. God is good, baby. All
- 7:56Speaker 2: my blessings come from the Lord. He saved me.
- 7:58Speaker 1: I broke the lease because a few West Indian men
- 8:01Speaker 1: was throwing glass bottles in my direction and I didn't
- 8:03Speaker 1: understand what that meant.
- 8:05Speaker 2: But hey, that's my... It's okay. They're watching me on TV.
- 8:09Speaker 2: I ain't tripping. But my boy... Amen.
- 8:14Speaker 3: Today you got that arm. These days you got that
- 8:17Speaker 3: arm on you so you throw that motherfucking bag and connect.
- 8:20Speaker 2: Yes, no. I'm new to New York City. I'm walking
- 8:23Speaker 2: down the street.
- 8:25Speaker 1: And listen, I appreciate them throwing the glass bottle over
- 8:29Speaker 1: my head versus on top of it.
- 8:32Speaker 2: So they have a good aim. So, you know, we, I, hey,
- 8:37Speaker 2: I'm grateful for the small blessings. Okay.
- 8:39Speaker 1: Anywho, so I leave New York City to go to Atlanta.
- 8:46Speaker 1: I've never been to Atlanta. This is 2008. And funny story,
- 8:51Speaker 1: the first person I met was obviously Nene, as I
- 8:55Speaker 1: was her producer. And that week, guys, Sharae had her
- 9:00Speaker 1: birthday party. And we had to film Sharae getting ready
- 9:04Speaker 1: for it. And I met Miss Lawrence. Mind you, in
- 9:08Speaker 1: New York City in 2008, Miss Lawrence was not in
- 9:13Speaker 1: New York City at all.
- 9:15Speaker 2: At all.
- 9:15Speaker 1: So my first introduction, and I remember thinking to myself,
- 9:19Speaker 1: as a gay man, like.
- 9:22Speaker 2: What's going on?
- 9:23Speaker 1: Like I was, I was so, I, I, I've never
- 9:25Speaker 1: met anyone like him. And that was my first introduction
- 9:30Speaker 1: in terms of like, Oh, okay. This is somebody that
- 9:34Speaker 1: is comfortable in his own skin. By the way, his
- 9:36Speaker 1: pronouns is he, him from my understanding, because he was
- 9:38Speaker 1: my podcast. But anyways, my point is, um, I was
- 9:43Speaker 1: introduced to that world courtesy of being in Atlanta and,
- 9:47Speaker 1: So when it comes to Atlanta, Blue makes a good
- 9:50Speaker 1: point in the sense of Atlanta is one of the,
- 9:54Speaker 1: if not the first city that represented the education lgbtqia
- 10:01Speaker 1: plus community in terms of of that era and then
- 10:05Speaker 1: when i moved to atlanta oh honey Alana back in
- 10:11Speaker 1: the day, baby was, was lit nowadays.
- 10:13Speaker 2: I mean, the gay scene, the gay scene, the gay
- 10:15Speaker 2: scene anyways.
- 10:17Speaker 1: So the idea of, I never thought about it until
- 10:21Speaker 1: blue said this every, and this is me only as
- 10:25Speaker 1: a producer. When we would cast for Alana, New Jersey,
- 10:31Speaker 1: et cetera, you wanted somebody to represent that city, right?
- 10:35Speaker 1: That was the only thing Bravo cared about. Like, do
- 10:38Speaker 1: this person represent the city first? And secondly, are they
- 10:41Speaker 1: organically connected to somebody? And I never thought about it
- 10:46Speaker 1: until now because I was reading some comments and there
- 10:50Speaker 1: are black women. I know some black women don't like
- 10:54Speaker 1: being called this. I'm only saying this for the wide
- 10:57Speaker 1: audience we have. But cisgendered black women, there were some
- 11:02Speaker 1: in the comments who did say that Look, this show
- 11:06Speaker 1: is about us. This is about women. And as a producer,
- 11:13Speaker 1: I said, okay, I understand because I'm not here to tell.
- 11:15Speaker 2: A black woman how she should feel. I understood that. Tonight,
- 11:19Speaker 2: Blue sang....
- 11:26Speaker 5: T.S.
- 11:26Speaker 2: Madison represents Atlanta.
- 11:30Speaker 1: And I I'm now looking at that, too, like, wow,
- 11:33Speaker 1: that that that's a great angle of introducing somebody to Atlanta.
- 11:39Speaker 2: My personal opinion when it comes to T.S.
- 11:42Speaker 1: Madison, who's my was one of my good friends, is
- 11:46Speaker 1: what all of you guys are saying. You can't deny
- 11:47Speaker 1: that woman's good television. And I'm like, I'm like all
- 11:50Speaker 1: you guys, if that what T.S. wants to do, T.S.,
- 11:54Speaker 1: I know the people over there call me. I will
- 11:56Speaker 1: hook you up with the producers if that's what she
- 11:58Speaker 1: wants to do. But I like Claudia said she mentioned
- 12:04Speaker 1: this is what she wanted and I think she'll be
- 12:07Speaker 1: great at it. When it comes to Law Roach, the
- 12:12Speaker 1: thing with Law Roach to me, because I watch him,
- 12:14Speaker 1: I never know if he's joking or being serious. That's
- 12:18Speaker 1: part of it. That's a part of his charm. I
- 12:21Speaker 1: don't know. The whole Zendaya, is she married, is she not?
- 12:25Speaker 1: I don't know. I still don't know if he was
- 12:28Speaker 1: being serious or joking. When it comes to Law Roach.
- 12:31Speaker 6: He's not wearing a wig. What lace?
- 12:33Speaker 2: Baby, Law Roach on Project Runway, chef's kiss. Fantastic.
- 12:40Speaker 1: So I like him on Project Romantic Child. But again,
- 12:44Speaker 1: I don't know if it was being serious or joking.
- 12:46Speaker 3: I also feel like, I think Kalani had made a
- 12:51Speaker 3: great point.
- 12:51Speaker 4: T.S.
- 12:52Speaker 3: Madison and LaRouche are both standout solo superstar personalities, right?
- 12:57Speaker 3: That may be too large for an ensemble cast. And
- 13:02Speaker 3: If that's the case and there's other opportunities for them,
- 13:05Speaker 3: I also think that the Real Housewives of Atlanta cast
- 13:07Speaker 3: is in a great place right now. And I don't
- 13:10Speaker 3: think they really need to do anything, which is why
- 13:12Speaker 3: everybody came back for this new season. So, you know,
- 13:15Speaker 3: I think that shows.
- 13:16Speaker 6: What's their idea, Dustin?
- 13:18Speaker 2: I'm curious.
- 13:18Speaker 5: What's their idea?
- 13:21Speaker 3: T.S.
- 13:22Speaker 6: Brought this up, so she might be thinking, I don't
- 13:24Speaker 6: mind y'all seeing my fine-ass man that I've been hiding
- 13:26Speaker 6: all this time.
- 13:26Speaker 5: I'm ready.
- 13:27Speaker 6: It was her idea, and so it being her idea
- 13:29Speaker 6: makes me think, maybe she is evolving on her views
- 13:32Speaker 6: about being on an ensemble.
- 13:34Speaker 2: Hey, and if so, do it.
- 13:36Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
- 13:37Speaker 4: Do it.
- 13:38Speaker 1: Let us know in the comments what you guys think.
- 13:40Speaker 1: You guys are all Atlanta Housewives fans. Let us know
- 13:42Speaker 1: if you would like to see T.S. Madison and or
- 13:45Speaker 1: Law Roach as part of the cast. Dustin dropped some
- 13:49Speaker 1: exclusive tea. He said they're all back. So, hey, Dustin.
- 13:54Speaker 1: Thanks for telling us.
- 13:56Speaker 2: Who said that? Wouldn't that sound boy?
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