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Mac & Bone Show - Tim Donnelley Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Tim Donnelly is the host of The Drive on 99.9
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  Speaker 1: The Fan in Raleigh. We call that station here on
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  Speaker 1: our show, Bone, 99.9 The Gold. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Adam Gold has paid us to refer to that station
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  Speaker 1: that way. But Tim Donnelly, very good in the afternoon
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  Speaker 1: as well, and he joins us. Tim, what's going on, man?
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  Speaker 1: How you doing?
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing well. You know, I wish I could come
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  Speaker 2: on and talk about the things Adam talks with you
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  Speaker 2: guys about because the Canes are much more fun than
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  Speaker 2: talking football right now.
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  Speaker 1: You ain't kidding.
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  Speaker 3: Big win.
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  Speaker 2: That's everybody.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry. You didn't get the Canes assignment. I'm
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  Speaker 1: sorry to mention that.
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  Speaker 3: There's a big Adam Gold club on the text line
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  Speaker 3: every Tuesday. Now I say club because it could vary
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  Speaker 3: from fan club to get this guy off the radio club.
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  Speaker 2: That is true.
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  Speaker 3: Depending on the day of the week there, Tim.
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  Speaker 1: Could go either way. Let's talk about Dave Doran and
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  Speaker 1: the presser yesterday and just his era. I just I
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  Speaker 1: just think that's such a classy way, Tim, to end
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  Speaker 1: his era. We compared it to Ron Rivera. Ron Rivera
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  Speaker 1: wanted to do a presser after being fired. It's so
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  Speaker 1: rare that coaches do that. And I just think he
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  Speaker 1: deserves credit for that. And I think he deserves credit.
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  Speaker 1: For his run, but also I understand why State fans
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  Speaker 1: are like, hey, I'm glad we're trying something different. Like,
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  Speaker 1: how do you feel about all that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, without excusing any of the, you know, pitfalls that
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  Speaker 2: he fell into later in his tenure with State. I
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  Speaker 2: think you're exactly right. I think he tries to do
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  Speaker 2: things the right way. I think he was hired to
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  Speaker 2: win in a college football that doesn't exist anymore. A
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  Speaker 2: lot of the skill set that, you know, made him
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  Speaker 2: the right candidate when they moved on from Tom O'Brien
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  Speaker 2: so many years ago probably also is why it's the
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  Speaker 2: right time to move on from him now. But I
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  Speaker 2: second you with what you said about Ron Rivera. Sometimes
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  Speaker 2: I think these, like, traditional football guys, you feel like
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  Speaker 2: they're going to be mean or they're going to light
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  Speaker 2: the world on fire when they leave because they're so intense.
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  Speaker 2: But really, they're just good dudes and they just fit
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  Speaker 2: in in a locker room. So I think Dave Dorn
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  Speaker 2: went out exactly how he coached, which is kind of
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  Speaker 2: no nonsense, but classy at the same time.
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  Speaker 3: Tim, it's kind of a two-fold question here about Dorn
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  Speaker 3: and this season. How surprised are you from where we
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  Speaker 3: thought this team was in the preseason that it got
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  Speaker 3: to this point of a firing, and where did it
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  Speaker 3: most go wrong to get here?
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  Speaker 2: I'm unbelievably surprised, and I think there's enough receipts out
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  Speaker 2: there of me talking about how hyped I was for
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  Speaker 2: this NC State team. I can't say it any other way.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I think we're all still learning where to
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  Speaker 2: spend your money in college football. You know, if you
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  Speaker 2: look at the NFL kind of model, a gigantic part
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  Speaker 2: of the salary cap goes to the quarterback. So I
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  Speaker 2: think that may be where it went wrong. And I
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  Speaker 2: like C.J.
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  Speaker 3: Bailey.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's a really, really good quarterback. But it's
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  Speaker 2: kind of the opportunity cost. Do you spend gigantic for
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  Speaker 2: the quarterback? And that may come at the cost of
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  Speaker 2: your left tackle and your running back and your receiver
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  Speaker 2: and your defensive player. or do you kind of reverse
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  Speaker 2: it and maybe go with a more Wake Forest strategy,
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  Speaker 2: which is you shop the bargain basement for the quarterback
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  Speaker 2: and perhaps have a little bit more for the rest
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  Speaker 2: of your roster? You know, I think... They may have
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  Speaker 2: spent their money in maybe the wrong place without knocking C.J.
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  Speaker 2: Bailey too much. It's a really tough world if you
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  Speaker 2: aren't one of the big, big spenders in college football.
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  Speaker 1: It is, no doubt about it. We're talking with Tim
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  Speaker 1: Donnelly from 99.9 The Fan in Raleigh, talking about the
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  Speaker 1: Wolfpack football situation. Moving on from Dave Doran. um now
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  Speaker 1: i want to ask this question kind of twofold tim
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  Speaker 1: i want to ask how you feel about uh you
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  Speaker 1: know philip rivers mania um and i want to know
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  Speaker 1: how how are the state fans that are in your
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  Speaker 1: listenership feeling like is this an idea that you and
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  Speaker 1: the state fans are getting behind what do you think.
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  Speaker 2: I'm i'm in on philip rivers um and for the
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  Speaker 2: for the simple reason of In college football now, if
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  Speaker 2: it's a quote-unquote bad hire, and I admit Phillip Rivers
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  Speaker 2: is a risk, it doesn't set you back as long
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  Speaker 2: as it used to. You can reset your roster in
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  Speaker 2: a year. We're seeing it with NC State basketball. They
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  Speaker 2: hire Will Wade. It goes horrendous. They're on to the
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  Speaker 2: next coach the next year with a completely different roster.
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  Speaker 2: So give Phillip Rivers the chance. He'll fundraise as well
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  Speaker 2: as anybody ever has for that program, and he won't
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  Speaker 2: even have to work that hard to do it just
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  Speaker 2: because people will almost– you know, bend over backwards to
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  Speaker 2: be in his orbit based on what he means to
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  Speaker 2: them as a player. I will say it's more polarizing
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  Speaker 2: in the fan base. I, you know, just sent out
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  Speaker 2: a tweet saying, you know, before I hire any run
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  Speaker 2: of the mill offensive coordinator from a CFP team or
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  Speaker 2: a group of six, you know, hot coach, I would
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  Speaker 2: make Phillip Rivers say no to me three times if
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  Speaker 2: I were NC State. And the response is either, yay, Phillip,
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  Speaker 2: or it's, Why in the world would you do this?
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  Speaker 2: It invokes the low hire. There's no experience. You need
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  Speaker 2: someone that knows what they're doing, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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  Speaker 2: So it's it's I wouldn't say there's many people that
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  Speaker 2: are lukewarm on a Philip Rivers hire. Everybody is either
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  Speaker 2: all the way in or all the way out. I'm
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  Speaker 2: in the kind of all the way in category.
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  Speaker 3: If it's not Rivers, what's another name or two that
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  Speaker 3: intrigues you the most of the of the names that
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  Speaker 3: we hear attached to the job?
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  Speaker 2: If you're going to go the coordinator route, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's a familiar name, but it's the younger generation. Mike Shanahan,
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  Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator from Indiana, has been mentioned. Buster Faulkner,
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  Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator from Florida, has been mentioned. He was
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  Speaker 2: at Georgia Tech previously. And then, you know, the same
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  Speaker 2: old names, the Dan Mullins, the Billy Napiers, the Jamie Chadwells.
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  Speaker 2: these guys that have maybe had opportunities at bigger schools
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  Speaker 2: and then come back down and kind of rebuilt themselves
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  Speaker 2: at the group of six level. I tend to go
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  Speaker 2: more coordinator than retread head coach. So, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: like what Buster did at Georgia Tech. That one might
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  Speaker 2: fit if you're looking for somebody outside the NC State tree.
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  Speaker 1: He's a very interesting name, man, no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 1: What he did with Haynes King, what he's doing at Florida,
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  Speaker 1: you cannot deny it. All right, let me ask you
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  Speaker 1: this real quick before we let you go. On the
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  Speaker 1: basketball side, because we're getting ready to do a hoop segment,
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  Speaker 1: so let me start it now on the NC State side.
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  Speaker 1: What is your feeling about the Justin Ganey era in
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  Speaker 1: the short term, like this season, but also the bigger picture?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think it's a direct reaction to Will Wade.
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  Speaker 2: I already brought it up. They went outside the family
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  Speaker 2: for the hire. It didn't work. Justin Ganey is inside
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  Speaker 2: the NC State family, played there, assistant, GA. He understands.
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  Speaker 2: The question is really going to come down to Paul
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  Speaker 2: McNeil Jr., a player that they worked very hard to
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  Speaker 2: retain from last year's contract, who can get as hot
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  Speaker 2: shooting the basketball as anybody. He had a 47-point game
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  Speaker 2: last year. So if he can grow into a consistent,
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  Speaker 2: every game, number one scorer, Justin Ganey comes in with
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  Speaker 2: a defensive background from his time as an assistant, most
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  Speaker 2: recently at Tennessee. I think they'll be solid defensively. The
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  Speaker 2: offensive side that worries me a little bit, if Paul
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  Speaker 2: McNeil can make that work, then I think they could
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  Speaker 2: surprise some people. Long-term, I really like Justin Ganey. I've
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  Speaker 2: talked to him a few times. He seems to get it.
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  Speaker 2: He understands. And most importantly, I think he has an identity.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: In college basketball, you need to, you know, and this
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  Speaker 2: is college football, too. You look at the portal, you
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  Speaker 2: look at high school, there's thousands of names. You need
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  Speaker 2: to have an identity so you can limit that to
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  Speaker 2: like 200 to evaluate and really get to know who
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  Speaker 2: you should bring in. His defensive identity, I think, can
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  Speaker 2: serve them long term. And then his love for NC
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  Speaker 2: State will go a long way as well.
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  Speaker 3: The Field of 68 yesterday had a discussion. This is
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  Speaker 3: before the Heels exhibition game against Charlotte. Could the Heels
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  Speaker 3: miss the NCAA tournament? I thought that was a little ridiculous. However,
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  Speaker 3: then I watched the game. I don't think it's true,
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  Speaker 3: but how worrisome is this year one for Michael Malone
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  Speaker 3: and really the depth of this team, this Heels team,
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  Speaker 3: being a problem?
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  Speaker 2: I'm not worried about it. I think Michael Malone has
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  Speaker 2: some real learning curves, but I think he's a guy
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  Speaker 2: that will learn it quickly. Perfect example, the game against Charlotte, right?
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  Speaker 2: He said in one of the early press conferences, timeouts,
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  Speaker 2: he was telling his guys, like, relax, breathe, you know,
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  Speaker 2: let's get going. They look like the Keystone Cops. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, there's a difference between motivating a 27-year-old or
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  Speaker 2: 30-year-old pro, right? Those guys motivate themselves. They show up,
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  Speaker 2: they know what they're doing. Sometimes you've got to get
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  Speaker 2: a 20-year-old, you know, out of bed. You know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean? Sometimes you've got to wake those guys up
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  Speaker 2: and he'll learn. So there's there's learning curves for Michael Malone.
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  Speaker 2: So early on, I think there's going to be some
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  Speaker 2: some ugly ones. And you might you might say that
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  Speaker 2: Charlotte game or exhibition game was one of them. But
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  Speaker 2: I'm a big Dallas fan coming over on the transfer
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  Speaker 2: portal from from Virginia Tech. I think Terrence Brown is
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  Speaker 2: going to be able to fill it up. They have
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  Speaker 2: some guys that I think just the talent level will
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  Speaker 2: rise to the occasion eventually. All right, man.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, good to talk to you, Tim. We're sorry that
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  Speaker 1: you do not get in on the Canes talk fun
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  Speaker 1: that Adam Gold does with us. But the Canes won,
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  Speaker 1: and they got the most points in the damn league.
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  Speaker 1: Of course they do. Tim, keep up the good work, man.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate it. And, yeah, there's misery loves company all
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  Speaker 2: across the football world. So, you know, you guys keep
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  Speaker 2: doing your thing with the Panthers. And we're trying. All right, brother.
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  Speaker 1: All right, be good. There you go. That is Jim Donnelly.