Latest / Talking Shed / Sean 'Dangerous' Mullany
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- 0:30Yo, welcome back to the Talking Shit podcast.
- 0:31You're here with Josiah Machu bringing you the latest in
- 0:33sports, pop culture and lots of big questions.
- 0:35On today's episode, we have a special guest in the shit today.
- 0:37Hey. Yeah, bro, got the bro.
- 0:40Sean Mullaney, Lenora's finest. What up?
- 0:42We're talking about finest. I have a dangerous, dangerous,
- 0:45dangerous. Yeah, bro, for the man he's,
- 0:48he's just moved out to Gold Coast from Mackay.
- 0:52He's playing for the Gold Coast Titans and Tweed Tweed Seagulls.
- 0:57Yeah, he's got on here. He's got some good stories, so
- 0:59it should be a good one. Should be right.
- 1:01Give us a quick general update, man, and then we could kick it
- 1:03off with Shawnee. Bro my general update is just on
- 1:06my knees because I've just started to play rugby league
- 1:09again EH2 getting the seagulls of comeback.
- 1:12I don't know why but bro I my knees are actually feeling so
- 1:173830 years old and. Past this past.
- 1:20It bro. So yeah, got got.
- 1:22We got on my second game today and yeah, we got a good team so
- 1:28we should be all good. How do you reckon you guys were
- 1:29this year? I reckon we'll go good.
- 1:32We got a good team, yeah. Like Ezen won the whole.
- 1:35Comp I don't know you never know Billy might drop down the whole
- 1:37it's a Queensland Cup that team in next one that we're investing
- 1:41Samsung Lumo, but. Oh my general update.
- 1:45Same thing man Somehow we both got roped in at the same time.
- 1:48So I'm down at Mulund by Mustangs in the Northern Rivers
- 1:51comp. So we'll see how that goes for
- 1:53the rest of the year. Gun team down there too few boys
- 1:55down there as well from Bailey. So you know, hopefully we get we
- 1:59get the dub today. Obviously we're kicking off our
- 2:01our game this weekend on a on a Sunday, so 2:30 we'll see how
- 2:04the. Games are so trashy.
- 2:06Oh, it's just the worst thing ever, bro.
- 2:08Especially when you got work on Monday.
- 2:09You don't know because you don't have work on YouTube.
- 2:11Recovery Monday. Recovery Monday.
- 2:13But it's crazy. It's like you feel like
- 2:18hungover, almost like we wake up and it's just body sore brain
- 2:22fog and you have to go to work. It's like, that's how.
- 2:26Yeah, honestly, I don't know how to describe it, but the closest
- 2:29thing that comes to my mind is like, you feel like death on a
- 2:31on a Monday. Yeah, you know, by 100%.
- 2:33And it takes you Saturday as well.
- 2:34Yeah. You're already thinking about
- 2:36Sunday, so yeah. And you can't do anything Friday
- 2:38as well, really, because you're not going to be like going out
- 2:40doing anything crazy because you're thinking about like for
- 2:43get hungover or. Anything weekend gone.
- 2:49Well, like we said, man, we've got a special guest in the house
- 2:52in the shed today. Big dog Sean Mullaney.
- 2:56Yeah, Pucky, pucky, pucky man. Yeah.
- 2:59So Sean, just I guess a quick intro on how we met.
- 3:03We moved over to Mackay. What 2021?
- 3:0621 yeah. COVID, yeah.
- 3:07COVID, yeah and almost didn't. Yeah.
- 3:09Almost didn't, yeah, because we were missing each other.
- 3:12We'd never met each other before, but the bro, the coach
- 3:14or someone told us like, no, Sean's going over and you can go
- 3:18over together and that kind of thing.
- 3:20And COVID was shutting down pretty much every flight that
- 3:22was going to Aussie. And then I was thinking, oh,
- 3:24bro, maybe we just can it. I was missing you.
- 3:27Just dude. He's like, Gee, I'm just going
- 3:28to stay until. The season starts, I'm pretty
- 3:30sure. I'm pretty sure.
- 3:31I said I wasn't coming. And then you're like, no, I'm
- 3:33going to the fuck. We better get together.
- 3:35Yeah, better get together. Yeah, so we ended up turning up
- 3:37to the airport. We had like a big farewell
- 3:40party. HP boys.
- 3:42Yeah, bro. I remember I was I walked out so
- 3:45I didn't cry in front of all my family and stuff.
- 3:47And we I was sitting on the other side and Sean come walks
- 3:49in. He must be Sean stuff like try
- 3:52not to cry into my family. And then we looked over.
- 3:55Is that HP boys? But that was crazy.
- 4:01But yeah, we moved over crazy time.
- 4:04Hey. Crazy time, crazy time and.
- 4:06I remember. Then we moved them, flew into
- 4:08Makai. You knew what Makai was like
- 4:11when you first got there. Hey.
- 4:13Yeah, so I've, I've had family there so done a few visits, but
- 4:16but being in the city was was cracked.
- 4:19Yeah, it wasn't much of it. Because I had, I was, I'd pretty
- 4:23much only been to Gold Coast there and Aussie before.
- 4:26And so when I was landing, I was kind of thinking, oh, it's not
- 4:28gonna be exactly like Gold Coast, but it'll be pretty much
- 4:30the same. Like it's gonna be on the beach,
- 4:32like it's gonna be like heaps of bars and that kind of thing.
- 4:35It's gonna be on. But when I landed I was like, is
- 4:38this the connecting town? Tallest building, 4 stories.
- 4:41Yeah. And then and then, yeah, we
- 4:45pretty much got, we went through a rough when we first got there,
- 4:49it was like 3 or 4 weeks of like no accommodation, didn't have
- 4:52anywhere to stay really. Yeah.
- 4:54So what did you guys end? Up doing hotel, stayed with the
- 4:58coach for a bit. True.
- 5:00Well, Sean's dead. Try to get us drunk before
- 5:02training. And then, yeah, we're from
- 5:08there. It's pretty much had the season
- 5:10and I need. I was in there for one year.
- 5:12Yeah, Sean stayed there. Probably gonna buy a house and
- 5:15move back. Yeah, I'll see what happens.
- 5:17Hope for me, Hope for me. They like it up there.
- 5:20Yeah. Is it good up there?
- 5:21Yeah, but I like it. It's once you get used to a
- 5:23small town living, it's pretty hard to leave a yeah, even much
- 5:26I think would have some things that you miss about it.
- 5:27Like, yeah, 100% you don't miss the limited options and yeah,
- 5:31you know, swimming with Crocs or you can't swim.
- 5:33Yeah, but there's definitely a nice hometown like community
- 5:36feel to it. Yeah, but you're not just doing
- 5:38the same shit anyway. Like, yeah, to be honest, like
- 5:41you, what we do here, you go golf, go to beach, go get on the
- 5:44beers with boys, go, same thing, play footy.
- 5:47You can do everything there. It's just not as like Bougie.
- 5:50Yeah, yeah. And food, really, that's
- 5:51probably the biggest one's food. Food.
- 5:53Yeah, that's probably a big one. Yeah, right.
- 5:55Yeah, it's like, what, grazing goat?
- 5:57What other cafes? All right, Oregon Burger Edge is
- 5:59probably like, yeah, that's the top.
- 6:01Yeah, that's where the coach took us.
- 6:03The top. Yeah, he's like, bro, that's the
- 6:04best. Place it was just the normal
- 6:06burger. What, like an off brand of
- 6:09grilled? Yeah, pretty much.
- 6:11It pretty much is. But so where are you originally
- 6:14from, Becca? I originally from West Auckland,
- 6:16so I grew up in Massey, but I've done my school in Avondale.
- 6:20Glen Eden played for Glenora growing up, so yeah, yeah, I
- 6:24spent my time traveling around, so way out, like Green Bay,
- 6:28Para, yeah, Massey, Avondale, kind of all around West
- 6:32Auckland, but die hard West. Yeah, that's mad.
- 6:36That's mad. And like what, what really
- 6:38pulled you over to Australia in the end?
- 6:40Like, were you here before the COVID years as well or no that
- 6:44was the first time you've you've moved over?
- 6:45Yeah, so I come over when I was I was 16 or 17 after played
- 6:49nationals comp for school, got picked up with Avondale and then
- 6:53played under seventeens Akarana nationals comp.
- 6:57And that's when they kind of said, oh, we want you to come
- 6:59over last year, 20s as last year, the Holden Cup, like have
- 7:01a crack, see if you can make it. Like the last, the last year
- 7:04that that. Yeah.
- 7:05So that was 2017. Well, that.
- 7:07Was lucky you got to do that. Yeah, so I went over when I was
- 7:1017, but I still remember first night in Townsville, similar to
- 7:14Macaya, a very similar thing. And you come from Auckland?
- 7:17Yeah, flying. Everything is just brown.
- 7:19I remember just sitting in the hotel saying to my mum, what the
- 7:22fuck are you doing here? But there's no way I've just
- 7:25left my misses. I've done all this to come here
- 7:27and then, you know, moving over the homestay at 17 is crazy it.
- 7:31Is, yeah. They've already had a family,
- 7:34like I've got some good stories too, so.
- 7:36You're only running if you can bomb the toilet or not or.
- 7:39Yeah, I'll, I'll get my best. I'll get my best.
- 7:42So I moved in with the welfare manager, who's legend like,
- 7:44yeah, Kevin Marty has probably had a massive influence on my
- 7:47career. Of the Cowboys.
- 7:48Of the Cowboys, yeah. So he was there since 95 where
- 7:51he's housed some legends in that house.
- 7:52Yeah. So I've gone in there.
- 7:55That That was sweet. They've done it before.
- 7:57Yeah. My best story is probably a year
- 8:02into my 2 year stay. The the mum.
- 8:06So Julie, Kevin's wife, her mum ended up coming in and she had
- 8:09real severe dementia. So every morning had to
- 8:13reintroduce myself. That crazy.
- 8:16Yeah. So like Kevin, he's a, he's a
- 8:19funny bastard to head. Like he'd stitched me up and
- 8:21just give me a new name every day.
- 8:23Or like my best story, man, this is one of the funniest.
- 8:28So I've got up at night and I'm like, you know how you are.
- 8:31We need to go for a pissing out. And because there's probably 5
- 8:34or 6 people in the house, the toilet next to my, my room was,
- 8:38was blocked. So I was like, knock it out all
- 8:40sweet. I'll go to the next one bro.
- 8:42I'll go down, open the door bro. I'll just hear her scream.
- 8:46Oh, my God, She's sitting on the toilet and bro, because someone
- 8:53with dementia does this shit all the time.
- 8:55Yeah. I run back to my room and then I
- 8:57hear Kevin, shut the fuck up. No one's here.
- 9:02And I'm just sitting a bit of my eyes closed.
- 9:04And then, oh, I had to wake up the next morning, be like, fuck,
- 9:07sorry, there was someone that was me, bro, because she's, she
- 9:12wouldn't Remember Me from the night before.
- 9:14She goes, bro, there's an intruder in the house.
- 9:16There's an intruder in the house.
- 9:18Kevin's going. There's no fucking hell, that's
- 9:25that's the story that really sticks out for me.
- 9:27Bro. That's correct.
- 9:29Moving into like a new place and you have those moments like
- 9:32that's what makes it harder. Yeah, very like and again, like
- 9:35seeing it very such a cruel disease, man, I don't wish that
- 9:37through anyone, but they did make some lot of it.
- 9:40Like, I guess that's all you can do at that point.
- 9:43But yeah, man, I was, I was pretty blessed to move in with a
- 9:45family like that for two years. It made it made it really easy
- 9:48to transition. Just just to throw it back,
- 9:50because I remember you saying back in the day, in your Glenora
- 9:53days, you guys had like a stat team, eh?
- 9:55Who was like The Who was like the gun gun boys when you were
- 9:58growing up were playing games. Who was like, well, that's going
- 10:01to be the next Greg English. Who do you reckon you ought to
- 10:04choose? One dude, it's too.
- 10:05Many a I was thinking about on the way here, you know, you talk
- 10:10about guys that never made it. Yeah.
- 10:12One that always comes to me was you might know Mike Williams.
- 10:15Oh, yeah, bro. One of the most aggressive,
- 10:18aggressive runners I've ever seen.
- 10:20Yeah, like wants to hurt you and he's running the ball.
- 10:22Yeah, yeah, yeah. But no, I come up to a good,
- 10:25good grade. Like we always had a rival with
- 10:27Richmond, which is like, you know, Chanel Harris, Tavita,
- 10:31Dylan Tavita, who's a gun to Hazel Cassini, who's a gun as
- 10:35well, Swana Hufanga. He's another one that never made
- 10:38it if you know him. He was in the Warriors though as
- 10:40well. Yeah, bro, mad bloke, you know,
- 10:42he's such a good lad and just very, like you said, you don't
- 10:45know what people were going through at the time.
- 10:47Like you can go through a rough patch or, you know, lose a
- 10:49family member, you don't have that support system and that's
- 10:51it. Like you fall off the map so.
- 10:53But but also it's like when you said you when you moved to
- 10:56Townsville bro, to play good footy while you're moved out of
- 11:00your comfort zone, that kind of thing.
- 11:01That is not to be said as well. That's hard.
- 11:03I'm struggling with it now, bro. Yeah, but even moving down here,
- 11:05I almost feel like a shadow of the player I've been in
- 11:07Macquarie just kind of learning the ropes, yeah.
- 11:10Even being an allocation player coming back, you're not with the
- 11:13team the whole week, so that's tough, but.
- 11:15You don't get time to build combinations and stuff like that
- 11:19when you're like they're saying it's.
- 11:20So hard, bro, like, and you don't want to be a ratchet guy
- 11:23and come back and you take someone's spot who's been there
- 11:25the whole time, but now by coming through Caleb Clark.
- 11:30Was playing Richmond. Did he play Richmond?
- 11:32So this he must have been OP. I think he's just coming for.
- 11:37The. Grandfather segues to another
- 11:39story that's you might have heard, I don't know.
- 11:43So this is under 16 GF at Mount Smart and Richmond rolled up in
- 11:48the east Fight Club bus 88. No way.
- 11:52Yeah. So they rolled up in that little
- 11:53bit connections. I don't know.
- 11:55I don't know, Megan. What?
- 11:56You so stacks are oh, it's in there.
- 11:57None of the total as well. He was in that in that grade,
- 12:00Yeah, in that Richmond thing. No, no, he played for other who
- 12:04at the time he was. But yeah, so we played that game
- 12:07and I don't even know what happened.
- 12:09It happened so quick, but I think we were losing by like 6
- 12:12points and then I'll turn around and I think one of our trainers
- 12:17must have pushed a kid over or something.
- 12:19Very dark. The whole crowd has come onto
- 12:21the field, like massive brawl. Meanwhile there's like
- 12:25headhunters connections, I don't know where.
- 12:28Yeah, yeah. The whole ADH bus came or
- 12:30whatever. My pops up in the corner filming
- 12:31on the handicap. I'm probably like the one of two
- 12:36white boys in the whole crowd. Very the whole crowd.
- 12:39Come on, the ref stops everything.
- 12:41Doesn't know what to do and I don't even know what happened,
- 12:44but we all got escorted by police up into our locker.
- 12:48We had to get a police escort out of the ground.
- 12:50Did the game finish the? Game was over.
- 12:52No one won the grand final, just police choppers overhead.
- 12:56What? Right?
- 12:58This is crazy. I said there were police on
- 12:59site. From the get go they were.
- 13:01They were. I think they were close.
- 13:02I don't know what. Happened.
- 13:03They must have. Followed the part yeah.
- 13:05I don't know what happened, but game called off police choppers
- 13:08overhead, police escort out of the ground to the car park.
- 13:13Yeah, crazy. I've never heard of anything
- 13:15like that. I don't know.
- 13:15Well, we've been losing, so I'll take it as I'll take it as a
- 13:20draw. But yeah, that was one of the
- 13:23crazier moments from that, I guess, Glenora Richmond rivalry
- 13:26that we had so. I feel like I've never ever
- 13:28heard of that story. I only heard of it because this
- 13:30dude told me that. That sounds crazy I feel.
- 13:32Like they'd never aired on news or anything.
- 13:34No, I spoke, but like, bro, I don't know, a trainer kind of
- 13:37punching all the young fell out of it again.
- 13:39I didn't see it. I don't want to speculate that.
- 13:42Allegedly crazy. Yeah, Allegedly, Allegedly,
- 13:45allegedly, allegedly. Bro, just going back on before
- 13:47you said you're an allocation player.
- 13:49Yeah, right now, like just for the average listener or sports
- 13:51fan who doesn't really know what that means, like can you explain
- 13:54that a little bit? I will explain actually because
- 13:55it gets really annoying when someone goes oh what do you do?
- 13:58And you go play for the Titans. Oh, why don't you play for
- 14:00Titans then? Why do you play for Tweed?
- 14:02Yeah, so I guess I'll explain it for the average footy fan that
- 14:06doesn't know. So if you're not in the 17 of a
- 14:0936 man squad that week, you're going back and you're playing
- 14:13for your allocated team. So each club might have two or
- 14:16three feet of clubs that pull into the NRL club.
- 14:19So for us at the Titans it's Ipswich and Tweed.
- 14:22So if you're not playing in that 17 that week, you're getting
- 14:25dropped back to that team and I apply a trade and do we need to
- 14:29get into the NRL side? So it can be really hard because
- 14:33you're there for maybe captains, right?
- 14:34So one training session a week and it's really hard to get any
- 14:37fluidity or combos with the lads that are full time in those
- 14:41clubs. So I've been on both sides of
- 14:43it. I've seen guys that come back
- 14:44and kind of, you know, drag their feet, hang their lip like
- 14:47you would have seen it as well. But yeah, but Kai, it was, it
- 14:50was really hard on the Cowboys boys because they had to fly in.
- 14:53They're like they're flying for captain's run, staying next to
- 14:56the airport, come and try having one training with us, try and
- 14:59get some kind of combination. And then we'd be flying out the
- 15:02next day. And yeah, so it's, it's tough.
- 15:05Anybody who's played footy knows how like important the cultures
- 15:08and team bond like, and it's so hard to get that unless you're
- 15:11on like an away trip where they get to stay down with you.
- 15:13But yeah, Barrett's hard and like, I think some points they
- 15:16were driving. And that's crazy.
- 15:18Which is like a four hour drive bro.
- 15:19Yeah, I think I remember that. Yeah, so I guess people talk
- 15:22about the lifestyle of footy players and how good it is, but
- 15:25it'd be tough when you look at their rosters and you know how
- 15:28much it changes. It's not like a nine to five
- 15:31where you, you know, you've got this much time allocated to
- 15:33yourself. You just don't don't have that.
- 15:35So and then you have boys that will travel with an NRL squad,
- 15:39come straight back and then they're playing Cup as well.
- 15:41So it's there's definitely a lot that goes into it behind the
- 15:44scenes that a lot of fans don't don't see.
- 15:46I reckon with that situation, if you're a middle forward or
- 15:50something and your job is just to be tackle and run hard kind
- 15:53of thing, it's a little bit easier.
- 15:55But when you're like someone in the spine like Hooker 13, I mean
- 15:58half full back in there, it's pretty hard.
- 16:00Yeah, it's hard, bro. It is hard, especially to get a
- 16:02connection with the outside guys.
- 16:03But yeah, if you are a middle year, you should be pretty up
- 16:06and down, like make your tackles, make your runs.
- 16:08But it's still hard to pay for a team that you know, you might
- 16:11not have that the connection with or understand the coach and
- 16:14things like that. So definitely a hard, hard thing
- 16:16to for me to adjust to this year.
- 16:18And it's it's been good reflecting and seeing the guys
- 16:20that have done it before me and understanding now how hard it is
- 16:23to do so. Yeah, and Next up, just bro,
- 16:26probably one of the biggest achievements of your life at the
- 16:28moment when you made your Gold Coast Titans debut in our debut
- 16:31I'm. Man fucking.
- 16:32Punchy. Yeah, Ches voice.
- 16:33Appreciate that. Bro like when I when I found out
- 16:36about that I was I was so crazy. I was thinking cuz just cuz I
- 16:41know how hard you work as well. What was your kind of first
- 16:44thoughts? Did you when you first moved
- 16:46down to Gold Coast, did you think it was possible?
- 16:48Because if you had to compare it to when we moved to Mackay, we
- 16:52weren't really thinking we were going to play NRA anytime soon.
- 16:54But obviously you'd be talking to Titans and stuff coming down
- 16:57here. Did you think it was actually
- 16:59going to be a possibility this year?
- 17:01Yeah, I did, which is probably the reason I come here.
- 17:04Yeah, I did have a few offers, similar deals, other clubs, but
- 17:09just the depth I think at Titans was what attracted me to come
- 17:12here. Yeah, yeah.
- 17:13I mean, we've got Sam Beryl's there and Chris Randall who are
- 17:15great players and that, but I just know like injuries happen
- 17:18in footy and I know that I didn't have that third string.
- 17:20So I've kind of come down with the hope, like I just work hard,
- 17:24do my thing and hopefully an opportunity will come.
- 17:27Brand it did. It happened way earlier than I
- 17:29thought. Again, a lot for the average
- 17:32listener. I'm on a train trial contract,
- 17:33so I'm not actually available to play until after round 11 and
- 17:38less injury happens. Yeah.
- 17:39So the only reason I could play that one game is because
- 17:43Sandrails was injured. So I got in there true through
- 17:47that but. Is it just one injury?
- 17:50Or does it has to be? So if I'm a hooker, yeah, it has
- 17:52to happen to a hooker, right? Like a winger can't get injured
- 17:55and then I can come in and fill in, right?
- 17:58So because it happened to a hooker and we only had one more
- 18:00who could start, Yeah, they applied for me to come on the
- 18:03bench. Right, which is until round 11
- 18:05and then it's. And then it's free game.
- 18:06Yeah, free game, but bro, it was tough because our last last
- 18:11round of last year done by MCL, which is if anyone's done at MCL
- 18:14usually like rehab, yeah. Probably just done his what a
- 18:18year ago? Yeah, yeah.
- 18:19Or rehab. I can go 4 to 12 weeks depending
- 18:21on the grading bar where I done mine, like which is distal far
- 18:26away from blood flow, like full rupture.
- 18:28So yeah, I had to get Rico on it.
- 18:30Yeah. So full surgery.
- 18:32All right, That's I'm still like struggling with that now.
- 18:34But so for preseason I was out until I wasn't doing any footy
- 18:39stuff until maybe just before Christie Barrett.
- 18:42So. So you signed during the season?
- 18:43Yeah. And then last game, Daniel even
- 18:45signed. Actually I didn't sign because,
- 18:47you know, I'm late to everything.
- 18:49So the contract was on the table for a while.
- 18:51Yeah. And I just hadn't signed it.
- 18:53Yeah, just saying that what was going to unfold any other clubs
- 18:55and that I was playing pretty good footy last year.
- 18:57Then Daniel, you saw the quickly.
- 18:59Signed, yeah. Well, actually, bro, I called
- 19:01the recruitment manager. I was like, bro, I don't want to
- 19:03put you in the shit. Like I'll be honest, I'm just on
- 19:05my knee. And he was pretty good that it
- 19:08went back like, you know, crossed TS out of the eyes.
- 19:11You must. Have been shitting it.
- 19:13Oh, I was all right, bro. I'll get I'll get to it later.
- 19:15Why? But he, he kind of said, no, no,
- 19:18we're still sweet to have you go get the surgery and we'll work
- 19:21on it from there. So I went and got got surgery
- 19:26couldn't work. I was working the mines at the
- 19:29at the time. Oh yeah, so very like.
- 19:31Bro actually touched on that for a bit because you guys, some of
- 19:34the boys in Makai are putting in the mahia those.
- 19:36Yeah, I'll be honest, most of them are working under me
- 19:38because because I got them the job.
- 19:40So. So Bailey Gill, Mitch Fogarty,
- 19:43you just don't work. Hard get back to work if you're
- 19:46listening to this. No, but working up in the mines
- 19:50that's we're actually in the terminal, so not where they do
- 19:53all the, you know, getting the coal out of the ground where
- 19:55where they're giving it to the ships.
- 19:57But our main money for getting to go home every night.
- 20:00But we were in there from 5:30 to 4:00, maybe 6 depending.
- 20:05Yeah, sometimes night shift, like go from a game straight
- 20:07there, 12 hour shifts. And then training on top of
- 20:09there, training on top of that. Yeah bro.
- 20:11So like for me, my standard training day would look like out
- 20:15of the house 430 get home at 8:00.
- 20:19So you know the stress that puts on me, but like my part.
- 20:21You're part well, you're not doing any washing.
- 20:23Then Nah, that's tough. I'm not doing that never.
- 20:27But yeah, so the back end, I think I was in macaw probably
- 20:30two months not working, grinding mad and hard.
- 20:34I've probably spent $1000 on pass but yeah, that was tough
- 20:41for her coming. So coming off no training
- 20:43straight into NRL pre season, yeah, done that.
- 20:47So I wasn't back in the footy until just before Chrissy, Yeah.
- 20:51And I ended up getting rushed back just because of injuries
- 20:55and you need people on the paddock.
- 20:57But also you would have been like, I kind of wanna.
- 20:59Yeah, you're keen to keen to show out and show what I can do.
- 21:01Yeah. First, we can fully rupture my
- 21:04court, so out for eight weeks. But what's that feeling?
- 21:08Cuz I've done it before as well. When you first come back from
- 21:10injury and you get injured straight away and you're like, I
- 21:12don't wanna tell these dudes I'm injured to keep bro.
- 21:15But I just, I remember you said, too, you said when you get to
- 21:1825, that's when things start going.
- 21:22The hangovers go longer. Your knees are sorer.
- 21:25But yeah, so I've done that. And I was just like, fuck, I
- 21:28can't catch a break here. Yeah.
- 21:30And it's been one of those years for me very long.
- 21:31It's been tough but I've come back from the quad, played like
- 21:362 games a cup and then bro got the call up to NRL so wow after.
- 21:40Two games, yeah. Severely underdone, but like,
- 21:42bro, that's my dream. Like so yeah, even just to have
- 21:44one game. Yeah, bro, happy as with that
- 21:47and like to go go back on the why.
- 21:49I wasn't too stressed about that contract, bro.
- 21:52I was. I was really just giving up last
- 21:54year, like oh, shut up. Well, we've probably spoken
- 21:57about it as well, like, right. How long do you keep going?
- 22:00Yeah, especially with like the head.
- 22:02Yeah. And all the things that are
- 22:03coming out of your head. I'm pretty aware of that now.
- 22:05Yeah. And I want to be able to live in
- 22:06life post footy that as and they representative of me like being
- 22:13so active and healthy and I want kids one day and be able to
- 22:16spend time with them. Gonna be Antonio Brown out?
- 22:20There, bro. Out the gate, yeah.
- 22:23That's a that's a, that's a very good point.
- 22:25And like when, when to call it. But but even for boys that are
- 22:28like playing a grade and that kind of thing as well because of
- 22:31the, you have those same risk of like really doing your knee bad
- 22:35and you're limping around with your kids all day.
- 22:37But when do you actually call call it?
- 22:40Because bro, at 30 I'm thinking now I'm dancing with the devil a
- 22:43little bit. Right.
- 22:45I think, I think about that now like there's a few times that at
- 22:50the Cutters who they do have health insurance, but I'll play
- 22:54the game in Rocky and knocked out my 2 front teeth and the
- 22:58other four were loose and that they were loose.
- 23:02Bro and those are my good ones as well.
- 23:04And bro, to do that at Rocky at night, I've gone to the
- 23:07hospital, they go fuck. Sorry, bro, we don't got a, we
- 23:10don't got an emergency dentist. We're just gonna give you this
- 23:12piece of tinfoil and you're gonna have to use your tongue to
- 23:14press it up until Monday. So that put a piece of like
- 23:18tinfoil on those. Holes like from where?
- 23:21They they were hanging bro. They were like two or three mil
- 23:23my teeth and I had to like use my tongue to push my teeth into
- 23:28the gums for like 48 hours before I could see a dentist.
- 23:32What crazy? Boy, that's insane.
- 23:34Yeah, so and when I should? Have flown you out.
- 23:38It was the timing, It was the. Time.
- 23:39It would have been the nerve damage too.
- 23:41You would. Have been fired I think so when
- 23:43I got back we were talking about like getting your teeth done and
- 23:47that's expensive as fuck. The veneers, yeah.
- 23:50And I said I. See from down bar.
- 23:53We're A2 in one Turkey trip get my hairline sorted, but but I
- 23:58ended up talking to the CEO at cutters and I was like right,
- 24:01you you just got me A and they're like oh, we don't really
- 24:04know I said fuck he's better got me so I seen the bill it's like
- 24:08very for my 1 crown. It was like 10 grand.
- 24:10Yeah, yeah. So oh, straight up go for one.
- 24:12Yeah. And the rest of them are
- 24:13covered, so I'll probably get them done later, but.
- 24:16Like so like it is still a business and like they're
- 24:19thinking what's the cost and benefit for everything?
- 24:22It's not just like now. Are you saying that the
- 24:24insurance wouldn't cover that? No, it wouldn't cover my teeth
- 24:28for that price, but because I claimed it as I've done it on
- 24:31the job you did though, because semi professional work cover
- 24:34ended up coming and doing it. But the segue and the matches
- 24:37point some of that shit you do in a grade.
- 24:40Yeah, bro, yes, you're on your yeah you are.
- 24:42But and not only can you not play a footy to make matches,
- 24:45you can't work. So it's not $1000 a week swing,
- 24:49it's 2000 because you're not getting money and then you're
- 24:52still paying your bills. So that's the only thing as you
- 24:55get older, you've got to weigh up.
- 24:56Yeah, I understand. And I think back to where my dad
- 24:59played bro, he played until he was 40 and that was just the
- 25:03normal and now dad's generation which they just kept playing.
- 25:07And why did they keep playing? Cuz my dad was getting injured
- 25:09at all. He didn't even make on and I was
- 25:11talking. I was talking to someone about
- 25:12it the other day. Like, bro, in 1910, you know
- 25:16you're playing Carlisle Park, New Zealand.
- 25:17Yeah, you do your ACL then what? Yeah.
- 25:21Do they even know what ACL is back then?
- 25:23Bro I know those. Are just your needs.
- 25:25Were SUS as well. Very.
- 25:27Very like times have changed, though.
- 25:29It's crazy. Yeah.
- 25:30You just, you got to imagine what some of them players done
- 25:32back in the day, like, yeah, because ACL is not new.
- 25:35No, the surgery might be, but those injuries aren't new.
- 25:37So. Yeah.
- 25:38Yeah, that's a good point, bro. What?
- 25:40So what age were you when you made your debut?
- 25:4225 SI turned 26 this year and it's 25 S so.
- 25:47Segue into that is is for the next question is kind of like,
- 25:51yeah, what point do you think, you know, you you kind of not
- 25:54give up on the dream, but it's like as you start to doubt
- 25:57yourself, you know, and be like, oh, you know, is this really for
- 25:59me? Yeah, So I'm going back to.
- 26:01I had a coffee date with my missus while, you know, I was
- 26:04sitting at home. Like that was my big thing.
- 26:05Yeah, when I was injured, going out for a coffee, Like that's
- 26:07the best part of the day. Yeah.
- 26:08And she kind of said to me, like, fuck, what do you got to
- 26:10lose at the end of the day? You can come back and get in the
- 26:14minds and I was like, yeah, fuck, that's so true.
- 26:16Just go give it a crack. It's a couple years of your
- 26:18life. Yeah, it's anything you're
- 26:20learning anyway. So I think that a time you're
- 26:23ready to give up just when you're ready, when I come down
- 26:26here, first two months of living in Burley with a father called
- 26:29Brock Gray. I don't know if you've seen him,
- 26:30Is that Titans, right? He debuted when he was 28.
- 26:33Round one this year. Straight, He must be one of the
- 26:35latest. Yeah, one of the latest I
- 26:36reckon. Yeah, it must be.
- 26:37Yeah, but. Yeah.
- 26:38And then another one of the latest was Andrew Davey, who
- 26:41played at the Cutters. Oh yeah, until he's, I think he
- 26:44debuted when he was 29. Yeah, he was gun on fantasy.
- 26:47I picked the Yeah Yeah gun. Was he man?
- 26:50Manly? Yeah.
- 26:50Manly, yeah. He started off with Mackay
- 26:52though. Oh, so he's at the Titans now?
- 26:53No. No, no, sorry.
- 26:54He was. I think he played at Para last,
- 26:57but he debuted when he was 29, which is crazy.
- 27:00But Barry, there's so many good players jumping around at the
- 27:02moment and I think it's changing because of COVID.
- 27:06There's a two or three-year gap where players are
- 27:08underdeveloped. That's a good point.
- 27:10That's a good point. And it's the same with
- 27:11basketball and NBA and that kind of thing and everywhere and
- 27:14sports is there was such a big gap where people we weren't
- 27:18training or playing as much and so like we kind of got stuffed
- 27:22over. Yeah, 100%.
- 27:24Yeah, Rob, I would have. Debuted at 28.
- 27:26Yeah. Well, you think about like how
- 27:29guys get into the NRL, man, a lot of it's like just luck.
- 27:32Like I don't want to, I don't want to undermine hard work and
- 27:35things like that, sacrifices, but right, even for me, like,
- 27:38yeah, if there was doesn't get injured, I don't play.
- 27:40Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, and so much of it's luck
- 27:43even that like you fall into systems where you get to develop
- 27:45better than other players. Yeah.
- 27:49There's a book called Outliers. I don't know if you've read it.
- 27:51No. And they talk about, and it
- 27:52would be the same for us back home and open Division.
- 27:55Like if you're born in January versus someone who's born in
- 27:58November, yeah, under fifteens, that is a massive development
- 28:02curve. It is.
- 28:02A 14 year old compared to a 15 year old as master.
- 28:04Especially when you're a 14 year old European playing against a
- 28:0816 year old some more like that's massive.
- 28:11And then as soon as they get picked up, they're already
- 28:15getting better development. Yeah, exactly.
- 28:17And playing your team, yeah, you're behind the apple.
- 28:19So people don't factor in luck as much as it should be.
- 28:22Because it sounds like it sounds cool, like Corny did, but it's a
- 28:25little bit lucky. Yeah, we try to romanticize
- 28:28athletes and their stories, but fuck, man, there's so many guys
- 28:31that have caught just the bad into the stick that never made
- 28:34it, and then guys are just gonna dream, run and going to kill it.
- 28:37So if you score three tries at a Nationals game and that's back
- 28:41in NZ, you're probably getting a three-year contract.
- 28:43I've seen it. I've seen it happen, bro.
- 28:44I've seen one person run one good line.
- 28:47Bang sign, sign. Yeah, that happens that quick.
- 28:49Yeah. So, yeah, never wanna undermine
- 28:52hard work because it definitely has a place, Yeah.
- 28:56But yeah, luck is a massive factor and that's why I say it
- 29:00is a privilege to be an Arrow player.
- 29:02I see because there are such good players running around in
- 29:05cup and even local league, yeah, that could be in that position
- 29:09if they were afforded the same opportunities as some of the
- 29:12other players that made. It quick quick shout out for who
- 29:14do you reckon as someone that either didn't get to debut in
- 29:18like Queensland Cup or is currently there right now in
- 29:21your guy's opinion? Yeah, I'll hear yours first.
- 29:23I'm interested. Bro, I reckon Jack a Hernay,
- 29:27yeah, he he might have played NRL but bro, I reckon he should
- 29:30have played more. I remember when we played him in
- 29:32the Cutters. This is a hot take.
- 29:33If he didn't have a baldy, he debuts.
- 29:36I'm serious. If he if he had like a nice like
- 29:390 fade in a good box. Here, I think he's older than he
- 29:42is. Yeah, he's had that baldy for
- 29:43years. Yeah, or even just the head
- 29:45gear. A just.
- 29:46The headgear. Just the headgear.
- 29:47Just Chuck it on man. But I remember when we played
- 29:49him in Makai and he carved us, I was thinking that was this dude
- 29:51not playing in the NRL. True, he's like, it's a slick
- 29:53baldy too. It's a.
- 29:54Good Baldy. I'm on the way out.
- 29:58If I can look like that, I'm happy.
- 29:59But but like, he got caught in the wrong era, bro.
- 30:02Like now, Yeah. Now they're taking on training
- 30:05trolls that are older. Yeah.
- 30:07Because they're ready to go. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 30:09Instead of getting an 18 year old that might turn into
- 30:12something. Yeah.
- 30:13When instead of getting guy who's ready to go right now.
- 30:15So again bro, he talked about luck.
- 30:18Yeah, and how long do you have to carve and QQ cup to actually
- 30:21get? Trey.
- 30:22Fuller, Yeah, Trey Fuller. Like he just come in the right
- 30:25time where small fullbacks are making a comeback.
- 30:28Before that you had to be 6, four run like GI.
- 30:31Like how many years of an NRL career did he miss out on?
- 30:33Yeah, just because. Right.
- 30:35He should have been picked up way early, yeah, 100% even like
- 30:38Sam Costa from Bailey, yeah, but he should have been playing NRL
- 30:41like we'd play NRL players when we were barely and bro, he's
- 30:46carving them up like and. Then you have like, what is he?
- 30:49Is he a tradie? What is he?
- 30:51Yeah, I think he's like a builder.
- 30:52Yeah, so he probably got good money, got kids now, bro.
- 30:55He can't afford to go back to a trade shop.
- 30:56It's too. Much of A risk, yeah.
- 30:59Yeah, you talk about all those things that factor into being a
- 31:01pro athlete. I've got no strings attached
- 31:03right now, so it's okay for me. Yeah, yeah.
- 31:05But man, there's so many guys that I know get offered those
- 31:09opportunities. They just, they can't afford to
- 31:10take them. They got a mortgage, kids, stuff
- 31:12like that. So it's hard.
- 31:14What? What would you guys reckon
- 31:15Because I saw this TikTok or you guys any have any other people
- 31:18you wanna shut up? Yeah, I do, actually.
- 31:20Yeah. No, Probably the same mold as
- 31:24Trey Fuller, as Ray Burns. Yeah, you would have played with
- 31:26him. Mackay.
- 31:27Gunman. Such for his size, man.
- 31:29Pound for pound, so strong. Just that's what I was gonna
- 31:31say. He's like, he might be small,
- 31:33but Ray, he's actually like. Strong.
- 31:34Yeah, super strong. Just if you watch any of his
- 31:37tape, Ray, he's just a freak. Yeah, Smithy again.
- 31:40Cutters. He's killing it this year.
- 31:43He'll have an opportunity very soon, I'm I'm sure.
- 31:47Yeah. But you can go around any Cup
- 31:48team and name at least one or two, yeah, that could slot
- 31:50straight in and do a job. So yeah.
- 31:52I reckon actually from burning on that Maddie Connor bro, he'll
- 31:55I. Reckon he's a good one.
- 31:56Yeah, he's, that's a good one. Maddie Connor's on the on the
- 31:59same bro. And I reckon yeah, yeah, he
- 32:01deserves a, you know, at some point in his career.
- 32:03A shot, yeah. Shot, bro.
- 32:04Yeah, he's a yeah. He's a bit of a freak in the
- 32:06middle. And I'm glad that's changing
- 32:08too. I hope a lot of older guys get
- 32:09to debut Yeah the next few years because.
- 32:11Just play the best players but it doesn't always matter about
- 32:14development. I don't care about 1819 year
- 32:16olds to be honest. Honestly.
- 32:17Saying I think recruitment managers have an ego problem,
- 32:20they've got to be the next. That's a good.
- 32:22Point. I've got to find them.
- 32:24I've got. To find them, yeah.
- 32:27They wanna be the one that's acknowledged for a day.
- 32:30Yeah, he's still working. Now I'm just gonna say it.
- 32:34So Peter O'Sullivan, you've probably heard of him.
- 32:36Like the guru, Like. Yeah, right.
- 32:37Say, I found Roger to leave us a chicken.
- 32:39If you do, everyone's seen him. You just got him.
- 32:43Yeah, Like, I've spoken to other people.
- 32:45Very. He was the only one anyone was
- 32:47looking at. You just got him?
- 32:48Yeah, let's be real. I found I found Roger wasn't the
- 32:52generation for. Stevie Wonder could have found
- 32:54Roger. Yeah, on, on that, bro, You
- 32:59know, because to your point about, you know, play people if
- 33:02they're good enough to play, right?
- 33:03Like not about it's not always about development.
- 33:05Like I actually came across the clip recently and they'll talk
- 33:07it was about the Rugby World Cup, the last one, and they're
- 33:10talking about South Africa versus the ABS in the grand
- 33:13fawn, right? Yeah, or the World Cup.
- 33:15And they're debating whether or not to in the next World Cup to
- 33:19play younger players so that they're developed.
- 33:21New Zealand, New Zealand. So this is Sunny Bull actually
- 33:23that that said this and he was saying he didn't like that.
- 33:26He said just play the players that are ready now.
- 33:29Yeah, and it made sense because then I did some research and I
- 33:31looked at South Africas team and all of them, but two were over
- 33:35the age of 28 straight up over the age of 28 in the starting
- 33:38lineup. So that just makes, so that just
- 33:40makes me think I'm just like, they're playing players that are
- 33:43ready right now. And then the ABS, on the other
- 33:45hand, they had everyone but six who were over the age of 28.
- 33:49So there's still a contrast that, you know what I mean?
- 33:50Like, so I am a fan of that point.
- 33:53I'm just like, bro, play the players that are ready right
- 33:55now. You know, the players are going
- 33:56to develop anyway, you know, behind the scenes.
- 33:59So, yeah, just to add to that, yeah.
- 34:01Because you can just miss your chance if you're a year or two
- 34:04years too late. Like even some of the boys in
- 34:06the Super Rugby that are killing it, Yeah, like Sean Stevenson
- 34:09example now killing it in Super Rugby.
- 34:12But for some reason it keeps missing out on All Blacks
- 34:14because they have like a thing where they have the Will Smith
- 34:18or Will Jordan and all those gun dudes that have been there for a
- 34:20bit and then these new young dudes, like where do you slot
- 34:23there? Those dudes that are killing it
- 34:25right now? And.
- 34:25Yeah, it's too. It's hard, bro.
- 34:26It's really hard to play around with it.
- 34:28Yeah, but yeah, I actually had another question as well.
- 34:31I saw this TikTok and it was like this dude that did training
- 34:35and like nutrition for heaps of D1 college athletes and he was
- 34:38saying yeah one eating, eating well and like doing all the one
- 34:44percenters and stuff is really good.
- 34:46But if you look at college athletes, the ones that do all
- 34:51the one percenters right are usually D2 players.
- 34:54Like the D1 players actually don't care about that stuff as
- 34:58much. It's interesting.
- 34:59I reckon it's just what do. What's your guys opinion on like
- 35:021 percenters? Like do you reckon it's it's
- 35:06like essential or for some people, maybe it's essential,
- 35:09some people it's not? Or do you think that it's it's
- 35:11overhyped? Because personally, I reckon
- 35:14that's a bit overhyped day. Are you saying that 1% is though
- 35:16in this case would be things like, you know, nutrition?
- 35:19Yeah, like eating, not eating McDonald's, getting the right
- 35:22amount of sleep, not drinking, that kind of thing.
- 35:26What do you what do you guys reckon on that?
- 35:28Odd. Probably our Shawnee cuz he's a
- 35:31no you can't. I think we're, if we got this,
- 35:33we got similar stories, I'm sure.
- 35:34Yeah, I reckon, though from from my experience, all the best
- 35:38rugby league players I've played with puss heads Yeah, but and
- 35:42then they they go out, they go out hard out, they play, they
- 35:46play, they eat bad. They like lots of them pussy or
- 35:50like not not just puss heads, sorry, but like just more on the
- 35:55other side than. Good.
- 35:56Yeah, they probably like Brian Toolbar, the story.
- 36:00You hear the stories about him and I've seen a post, I think 5.
- 36:04Folks, and for breakfast. Did you see, though, that he was
- 36:06given like, I think it was like 30 boxes of like the 20
- 36:09something, I think, And he finished it in two months.
- 36:12I was like, bro, you're you're, you're a freak.
- 36:15Equals out to like 12 cans a day.
- 36:17Yeah, like crazy. You're a freak.
- 36:18And then like DK Mecca from who? Who's like the almost made the
- 36:23Olympics for sprinting. Yeah, and he's the one of the
- 36:25best wide receivers in the NFL and his diet is pretty much 2
- 36:28bags of lollies and a coffee. Michael Phelps diet, Yeah,
- 36:3210,000 calories. Obviously he's working it off,
- 36:34but like he's eating pizzas and that every day just to burn it.
- 36:36That's actually a good point. My take on it would be I don't
- 36:40reckon diet actually matters that much.
- 36:41I reckon as long as you train hard, it's sweet.
- 36:44Yeah, all those dudes still train hard.
- 36:45Yeah. And you watch them, when they
- 36:46finish, they blow out. Yeah, Like, yeah, while you're
- 36:48in that environment where you you can't out eat.
- 36:52Yeah. How much you're training?
- 36:53You're training. Yeah, Yeah.
- 36:54Yeah. So, but yeah, for me, whereas
- 36:57American sports a little bit different, I think they're a bit
- 36:59ahead of us with the athletes. Just like in terms of natural
- 37:02talent. Yeah, so for me, if I'm not
- 37:05doing the one percentage, there's no way I'm in an NRL
- 37:07system. Yeah like bro, I'm not an
- 37:09athlete at all. Like if you're talking numbers,
- 37:11I'm just not well, what's? Your combine, your combine.
- 37:15It's like jumping off the table. Bro, this is actually, this is
- 37:18another Sego but and this is someone who if I didn't meet
- 37:21him, there's no way I would have even played cop or anything like
- 37:24that. And I don't know if you remember
- 37:25Spidercade, no from Auckland, they used to run around with the
- 37:28Orange Wings like rugby league development.
- 37:31You might know him, but if you go through some of the players
- 37:33that have been through him by legends.
- 37:36So he what's? What's his name?
- 37:38Steve Roberts yeah, Cuz engineering.
- 37:40Yeah, yeah, he was the. He was the dude that looked
- 37:42after the moulding. Pacifica.
- 37:44Yeah. Engineering students.
- 37:45Yeah. And so you brought him all you
- 37:46all was like what the. Heck yeah.
- 37:47So his background is audited. College.
- 37:50Played baseball growing up, went over to Saint Mary's,
- 37:53California, D1, played there, done his thing.
- 37:56And then he went on to the Phillies and a few other MLB
- 37:59teams as a scout. Wow.
- 38:00So he's been around anyway, came back, wanted to give back rugby
- 38:03league, not a rugby league catch, but he's doesn't really
- 38:07know much about rugby league, but he understands athletes.
- 38:10Athletes. Yeah, So I remember my mum.
- 38:15So actually this Rabbitohs fellow came up to me one day.
- 38:17He said, mate, like you're a good player, I can see her, but
- 38:19you're slow like you're never going to be right.
- 38:22You're. Never going to be 1/2.
- 38:23That and when you're that age, you're kind of like, no one
- 38:26should like I don't care that I'm sweet, I'm good.
- 38:28My mum says I'm playing good. Yeah, well, I see.
- 38:30My truce. Yeah, you don't see my truce.
- 38:32And then he said, bro, this will be the best thing you can do,
- 38:36like 1400 for the summer. I just just do it.
- 38:39I was like, Nah, Glenora's got their own priestess.
- 38:42I'm going to do that anyway. My mum forced me to do it.
- 38:44And yeah, but I was like 15 at the time and we're doing this
- 38:48actual combo. So he starts with a proper
- 38:50combine. You're doing vertical halt bench
- 38:53press. That's pretty crazy.
- 38:56The bench press that the thing was 80 kilos, so you have to get
- 38:58as many as you can. I've done it with Josh Ferret.
- 39:01Yeah, Killing it was F&K. You're killing it.
- 39:03Shout out. Yeah, that 80K bench press drops
- 39:07it off. Can't.
- 39:09Get any? I get that jump off the grill I
- 39:11think I missed the first pig and then down my 40 yard dash and I
- 39:16come back. I was like, bro, slowest on
- 39:18ground, slower than props. Yeah, bro.
- 39:20And he just laughed at me. This dude, like didn't even know
- 39:23me. He goes, bro, you're running
- 39:24prop speeds like you're not going to do anything.
- 39:26Yeah. And like, I was probably lucky I
- 39:28had the attitude that like, fuck him.
- 39:30I want to, I want to stay here, come and do it.
- 39:32But yeah, yeah, man. He, he changed my outlook on
- 39:34life, bro, like, just to be the best in every facet of life,
- 39:38like education, best partner, son, everything like that.
- 39:42Brother, next year I come back, I think I've benched 80 reps for
- 39:4620 reps at 16. Or something.
- 39:48Yeah, like he invited me to his barn.
- 39:51He's like a barn, like at West Auckland where he's got his
- 39:53lifting gear. I was going there three times a
- 39:54week. But bro, that's the NRL pre
- 39:57season back then for a 16 year old kid, we were training five
- 40:00times a week for two hours during the summer and he had his
- 40:06program set up. So he had every NRL club on his
- 40:10list and if they were signed over here but not an Aussie,
- 40:13they were training with him. Wow, that's good.
- 40:15That's a good idea bro. Yeah, bro.
- 40:17And he should still be doing it now.
- 40:18I think he's got other stuff on his plate.
- 40:19But. And at the end of our preseason,
- 40:22we'd go play a Warriors development team.
- 40:24True. And he'd pretty much say set it
- 40:26up. These are all the kids you left
- 40:27out. Yeah, I'm not even a coach.
- 40:29And I'm gonna beat you with them.
- 40:30Yeah. And he was like that.
- 40:32And we'd we'd go and beat them every time.
- 40:33Did you beat them every time? Wow.
- 40:35That's pretty cool bro. Bro.
- 40:36And he wasn't even really a coach.
- 40:38Yeah, but he just understood players.
- 40:41One of the first guys I've seen, it's something I want to take
- 40:43back one day is, you know, putting it on Pacific Island.
- 40:48There's a multi boys saying I understand where you're from,
- 40:50your culture. Yeah, when you're taught not to
- 40:53look me in the eyes when I'm talking to you, you look down.
- 40:56You don't talk bad. Yeah.
- 40:57No, you're in this world now. Yeah.
- 40:59Yeah. Like, stand up.
- 41:00Like, look at me in the eyes. Tell me what you feel like this.
- 41:04You're in a white man's world now.
- 41:05Yeah. And you need to bring what you
- 41:07have from your family and your culture.
- 41:09You just stand on it. Yeah.
- 41:11Yeah. I love that, bro.
- 41:12Like. Cuz you see it so much in teams
- 41:14that like, just like the the young, like Pacific Island or
- 41:18multi boys that come into a team and they might be like a real
- 41:21good young talent, but like they're not, they're too shy to
- 41:24call for the ball or. Like and they.
- 41:26Totally on their shelf. Coaches, why aren't you talking?
- 41:28Yeah, yeah. Why aren't you asking questions?
- 41:30Why are you doing this, bro? Like you don't understand where
- 41:32they come from. So yeah.
- 41:33And that's changing, bro. There's so many good Polynesian
- 41:36and moldy leaders coming out now, which I love.
- 41:38Yeah, but that's something I want to take back.
- 41:41But I'm older and kind of change that narrative for those boys
- 41:44because I grew up around that my whole lot.
- 41:46Yeah. I'll probably identify more on
- 41:48that side than I do as a white boy, for real.
- 41:50So yeah, yeah, bro, he changed my life.
- 41:54So that fellow. So shout out to him.
- 41:56But again, bro, going back to luck, if I never meet him, who
- 41:59knows what I'm doing. So yeah, yeah.
- 42:01Shut up. So 1% is out for Sean Mullaney.
- 42:04Yeah. Oh yeah.
- 42:04We'll go back to that. If you're, if you're Tino, yeah,
- 42:09probably do whatever you want. Yeah, probably do whatever you
- 42:11want. If you're paying us, are you
- 42:12scoring a try off the kickoff in high school?
- 42:14Then you'll probably see. You can do what you want.
- 42:16But if you're getting gassed by props.
- 42:18Yeah, maybe this. One, this one maybe.
- 42:21No backers there. Yeah, no backers.
- 42:25All right. Segment of the week, we are
- 42:27doing our State of Origin players that we would like to I
- 42:31guess go out on the pistol, is that what?
- 42:33Yeah, yeah. So the best players past present
- 42:37to go go have some beers with I I think there's a there's a few
- 42:40goodies to choose from. Yeah, we'll just throw out a few
- 42:42names that we would each like to go out and piss with.
- 42:46And then obviously shortly, you had a good idea, bro, that we're
- 42:49going to do as well. You want to talk about that real
- 42:50quick? Yeah, just, yeah, just thinking
- 42:52about it, some of the the heavy hitters and that that never got
- 42:55to play or you know, you hear about the Jason Tamil laws that
- 42:58would love to suit up in Queensland but haven't been able
- 43:01to. I'll just put it to the boys,
- 43:02you know who's one, one or two players you'd love to see in
- 43:04that arena that aren't eligible. You're gonna get it off.
- 43:08Yeah, for that arena, I'll probably it's a tough one
- 43:14because I just go automatically to someone that can hit hard.
- 43:17And Ruben Wookie, Ruben Wookie is a good one honestly, I
- 43:21reckon. And Brandon Smith in his prime,
- 43:22I reckon he would have been good, eh?
- 43:24Yeah, 100% mean. Impact mean impact.
- 43:26What about you? Who?
- 43:27Who would be your one? I'm going Sunny Bill.
- 43:33I've seen him. I've seen him in that NSW, I
- 43:36think it's under 20s. Yeah, he was a he did play.
- 43:38Yeah, yeah, there's a there's a photo of him in his younger day
- 43:40as well. Come in his prime, bro.
- 43:42That'd be that'd be mean to. One that would have been crazy,
- 43:45actually. Yeah.
- 43:46Damn, that might have been the best one.
- 43:49You might have won. I'd say my one.
- 43:50I would love to have seen probably RTS in the suddenly in
- 43:54his prime bro. He was yeah next level as a
- 43:56winger or full back I don't know, but probably as a winger
- 43:59bro back in back in his Roosters days.
- 44:02I would have loved to see him suit up for for Queensland bro.
- 44:05Queensland, yeah, I like that. Yeah, both Queensland A Yeah.
- 44:08I'm Queenslander, yeah, 3 or. Three or QLD.
- 44:10I just he. Can't make his mind up year on
- 44:12year bro. I just like when NSW keep
- 44:16losing. I was like, come on boys, find,
- 44:18do something. But then I moved to Queensland
- 44:20and I was like, I should be a Queenslander but I just don't
- 44:23feel. Can't keep going.
- 44:24Wait, what's your old man? What's Queens?
- 44:26Queensland. He thinks he's queen.
- 44:30I try to tell boys all the time over here, they don't realize
- 44:33how big it is. In New Zealand it's.
- 44:35Very. Like.
- 44:36Massive. They're living and dying for a
- 44:37state they've never been. Yeah, yeah.
- 44:40You haven't even left New Zealand.
- 44:42I guarantee half the people that go for Queensland couldn't name
- 44:45three cities and. No way.
- 44:48It's crazy. Who would you, who else would
- 44:50you guys select from that list of players that.
- 44:53Sam Burgess. Yeah, that's a good.
- 44:56Thing I reckon Sam Bridges would go nuts.
- 44:58One that one that should have played and should still be
- 45:00playing. Victor Radley, I don't know how
- 45:02he like, I don't know how they let him deflect to England,
- 45:05right. He would be so good.
- 45:07In that, yeah, but even if he is deflecting to England, he can
- 45:09still play right? Nah, I think because they're
- 45:11tier one, Because England's tier one, right?
- 45:14But all those Tier 2 teams can play, Yeah, so.
- 45:16So GC office can't come back to New Zealand now because he's.
- 45:19He can come back to New Zealand, but then he can't play for QLD.
- 45:23Because he's in the Queensland squad.
- 45:24A Yep. Yep, I don't think he's played
- 45:26for New Zealand yet. He would.
- 45:28No, he would. Traitor.
- 45:29Yeah. The other one I actually want to
- 45:31throw out is that someone who who actually did get selected
- 45:34and then got told no sorry bro you don't qualify anymore.
- 45:37Yeah. That's now you, that's now that
- 45:40was insane. You know, like, yeah, I would
- 45:41have loved to seen him. I just think he's got the the NO
- 45:43for a day. He's got a. 100%.
- 45:45The attitude that you want, yeah.
- 45:47So I've got another one and I went over to, I went to the
- 45:49Cowboys with him. So he's my boy.
- 45:51But Mario Talangi Oh moved over to Queensland when he was 13
- 45:55from Otara. Is that play on?
- 45:57That's play on bro, That's play. On If Molotalo isn't allowed,
- 46:01he's not allowed. It's a cut off 13.
- 46:02I think it's 16. I think it's 16.
- 46:05You have to be I. Think Otato, though that's
- 46:08anywhere else that takes. No, no, because then Ronaldo.
- 46:12Well, it might be thirteen, maybe, but.
- 46:13He remember when he was. 16 yeah.
- 46:15So Murray, was he come with just in time?
- 46:17Just in time. Wow.
- 46:19I've got a What do you guys reckon about the whole you know
- 46:22how all the Aussies get so butthurt about people playing
- 46:26some more and then trying to play Queensland or NSW as well?
- 46:30Yeah, sure. If you if you play NSW,
- 46:32Queensland, you have to be Australia.
- 46:33It's because they're scared, yeah.
- 46:35It's only because they're scared.
- 46:36Yeah. As soon as Aussies start losing
- 46:38consistently, it'll change. Yeah, it'll 100% change.
- 46:41But. It needs to be though that
- 46:43everyone goes because it's going to make the international game
- 46:45so mean, like Tonga some more already.
- 46:48So good New Zealand, good Aussie, good England, good part.
- 46:51It's already getting so much more.
- 46:52Easy. Well, when, when have we ever in
- 46:54the past, you know, been like we're, we're hyped for, you
- 46:56know, international footy when it comes to rugby league?
- 46:58Not. Not as much as what it's like,
- 46:59honestly, international. Rugby league has never been
- 47:02that. Good.
- 47:03No, no. Like that's a state of origin is
- 47:05the pinnacle. That's that's crazy.
- 47:06Exactly, that is crazy. That's crazy.
- 47:08Yeah. So that, I mean, you know, that
- 47:10defeats that, that whole, you know, thing.
- 47:12We're we're, yeah, there needs to be a stronger international.
- 47:15Yeah, yeah. Right.
- 47:16And that's just gonna bring more money and stuff into rugby
- 47:18league. You've seen it.
- 47:19Yeah, so. Good picks, good picks.
- 47:22Stop getting butt hurt man over the state of origin.
- 47:26So yeah, we'll go into The Who would you wanna go for a beer
- 47:30with out of the past present? My kind of just to give you guys
- 47:35preface on what I was kind of picking on is cuz when I go for
- 47:39beers with someone, there's always, and you need to be
- 47:42specific I reckon because you know, you could go go for beers
- 47:45of that dude that just wants to fight his mates after he gets
- 47:48drunk or that dude that just disappears or that dude that
- 47:51tries to hit or knee runs misses or those those types of answer.
- 47:55This is what I was I was putting into my thinking of who I was
- 47:58picking because automatically I thought Willie Mason would
- 48:02probably be a good one. But I guarantee Willie Mason as
- 48:05one of those dudes when he makes a joke she always hits you.
- 48:09You know a few of. Those people.
- 48:15Right, the one that I would love to actually straight up off the
- 48:18ball. Alfie Langer.
- 48:19Alfie Lang is next level, bro. Like you see him even last year,
- 48:22bro, he's like 60 something now. Energy.
- 48:24Yeah, and he's the one on the tables, bro, getting everyone
- 48:26hyped up like he's the one. I'm, I'm 100% wanting to go out
- 48:29and and, you know, have a beer with a.
- 48:31Yeah, my, my, my, my pick. I'm not picking William Mason,
- 48:34just get that. He might be.
- 48:35He might be. Honourable mentioned Honourable
- 48:38Mentioned honourable. Mentioned.
- 48:39I'm going, I'm going. Jonathan Thurston.
- 48:40Hey, just the laugh and the jokes.
- 48:42I reckon that he would just have me at fits all night.
- 48:44Yeah. I get that you'd be laughing.
- 48:47Yeah, yeah, he'd be laughing all night.
- 48:48All night. Good place.
- 48:50What about you? I'm gonna go.
- 48:51I'm gonna go across the border, which I don't think, I don't
- 48:53know why would, but Joey Johns. Oh.
- 48:55Yeah, yeah. Like he's an immortal on and off
- 48:58the field by the stories. By the stories, maybe greater
- 49:01off the field. Yeah, maybe greater.
- 49:03No, definitely. Right.
- 49:05He's another one you talk about like, does alcohol matter?
- 49:09Yeah, like and and it's just great.
- 49:11Yeah, like yeah, stories about him, like bro polishing off 2
- 49:14hot bottles and then he's training the next morning like
- 49:16it's crazy. But they're back to yeah, he's
- 49:19still training hard. Hard, yeah, but yeah, he's a
- 49:21pretty safe pick. But he is safe to lead the pack
- 49:24of the he's also. Yeah, he's, what do you call it,
- 49:29the creator of the group chat. He's an admin.
- 49:31He's admin. Yeah, yeah.
- 49:33I think another one for me bro would be Josh Adekari.
- 49:36In those days bro, he's similar. JT like to laugh.
- 49:39Yeah. Just that laugh, that humor,
- 49:41sense of humor, the jokes you would have, bro.
- 49:43I'll go Josh Adekaye as my next pick.
- 49:45Yeah. My next one was just for a
- 49:48little bit of young, you know, because I need we need people to
- 49:52get us actually into the bars and be a VIP and that kind of
- 49:55thing. So I'm going Caleb Pongaret just
- 49:57to yeah, just for some clout. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 50:01Because bro, you can't just have all these rock up with all all
- 50:04these old dudes and next minute. Oh, sorry mate, we're full.
- 50:07We're at capacity that's. Fair.
- 50:10Damn, I like that. You're you're not going to get
- 50:13lit him with your fix. Sorry, too much sausage.
- 50:20Damn, I'm not checking. Reese Walsh.
- 50:22Then I'll combat that. I'm not checking.
- 50:24Reese Walsh, Yeah. Yeah, I'm going.
- 50:27Reese Walsh, Reese Ralsh, Joey Jones.
- 50:29That's a mischief. Yeah.
- 50:30And then I'll Chuck in my third straight away.
- 50:32Yeah. You need someone for kick ONS.
- 50:35Cam Smiths gonna be sitting. On that because the stories
- 50:39there. He's been listening to the
- 50:40country all night. You get home ready to kick on.
- 50:42He's still going. Yeah.
- 50:43Cam Smith #3. Apparently there was like a
- 50:46rumor or whatever, allegedly that he was.
- 50:49Everyone would go out and he'd just stay in the tea room
- 50:51drinking and everyone would come back and then still there.
- 50:54He's still there. Hey, so he'd just kick off, but
- 50:56he wouldn't do all the. Yeah, yeah, the outside stuff,
- 50:59yeah. That's a good, that's a good
- 51:01captain mate, for the. Light out, Captain.
- 51:03He's gonna keep you, keep you well balanced.
- 51:05So you've got OK, so that's password.
- 51:06OK, we've. Got one?
- 51:08That's your last perk. We've got one more package.
- 51:09I reckon I'm gonna go. Not a lift spanner, but I don't
- 51:14I don't know if this fella, I'm pretty sure he did play, but
- 51:17Brad Thorne. Oh, did he play a good one?
- 51:20Yeah, he did. Bro, just because the amount of
- 51:22networks and connections he would have yeah, bro, he he's
- 51:25been on both sides of the ball game too, you know, like.
- 51:27Also the enforcer, though, yeah, if if anyone gets slippy, yeah,
- 51:31yeah, yeah. He's the OG Sally Bill.
- 51:33Yeah. Sally Bill before Sally Bill,
- 51:35Yeah. He might be slipped on like as
- 51:37bro. Extremely slipped on.
- 51:38He's one of the greatest athletes of all time.
- 51:39I reckon in the same bro. Rugby World Cup, Yeah.
- 51:41Did he win 1 cup? Rugby World Cup.
- 51:43Yeah, I think he did. I think he won 2011 maybe?
- 51:47Go back-to-back. I thought he went back-to-back.
- 51:49I think he might have. I don't know.
- 51:50I don't know. Look at that.
- 51:51Look. Yeah, Fact Check.
- 51:52Fact Check. Yeah, but he's won it all, bro.
- 51:54He's won it all. Super Rugby.
- 51:56Right. He's been over to Europe, he's
- 51:58won rugby. I think he's coach Super Rugby
- 52:00title. Yeah.
- 52:01Or. Procedures.
- 52:03Oh, the Reds and like the COVID year, though, does it count?
- 52:06I don't know, right? I don't know.
- 52:08I don't know, because that was split eye that yeah, it was like
- 52:11Aussie, Aussie and then New Zealand.
- 52:13So yeah, yeah. But yeah, he would be, he would
- 52:14be my third pick, bro. Just someone that is, yeah, very
- 52:17well known in the scene. And it's just like you said, in
- 52:19an enforcer. Yeah, my next one, going across
- 52:22the dishes. This is actually a controversial
- 52:23one with recent history, but Angus Croydon.
- 52:27I'll go Angus Croydon. OK, AK.
- 52:29All right, though. Yeah, yeah.
- 52:31You know, looks so cool, dude. Yeah, just the hopefully not
- 52:36leave it there, but yeah. Not for fashion.
- 52:40For fashion. Yeah, he's got.
- 52:42I just want to throw it out there.
- 52:43Angus Crawdon best fashion in the NRLI.
- 52:46Reckon the league's ahead of people.
- 52:49He's pretty much the shade guilt.
- 52:51Gilbrish Alexander. Yeah, yeah.
- 52:53I think there's some big good picks, boys, but anything else
- 52:57was that. No, that was good, bro.
- 52:58Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
- 52:59I think anyone in that like that arena would be good to dream.
- 53:03Yeah. Yeah, pretty much.
- 53:04Very hard to narrow it. Down and then those are all have
- 53:06stories. That's a good story.
- 53:07It's just the aggressive voice that you want to stay away with.
- 53:10Oh yeah. You're is Spencer trying to
- 53:12fight you? Oh no, is he?
- 53:14It might just be the ones like there might be a hole in your
- 53:16wall with. Yeah, it depends if you're close
- 53:19or not all the way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 53:22Damn, we did. We did live out some honorable
- 53:23mentions though. Like bro Jerome, Louis would be
- 53:25good out there, bro. Just again, you know.
- 53:27Yeah, there'll be fewer. He had some good jams.
- 53:29Jerome Louis. Yeah, he'd.
- 53:30Be on the off will be another one.
- 53:32Yeah, there's honourable mentions.
- 53:34Yeah, I had to throw a few Polyboys in there, but I just
- 53:36had to. Mix it up.
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