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Andy Larsen on Jusuf Nurkic's back-to-back triple doubles, Ace Bailey's development, Potential RSL rebrand + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: So feb miss American Post.
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  Speaker 2: It's the Shan O'Connell Show. You were home of the
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  Speaker 2: from the Murdoch Chevrolet Studio of ESPN seven hundred and
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  Speaker 2: ninety two to one.
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  Speaker 1: A f M. This would be the day that did
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  Speaker 1: you write the book you have?
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Shawn O'Connell Show. Welcome in Andy
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  Speaker 3: Larson at Andy B. Larson on Twitter, Utah Jazz and
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  Speaker 3: NBA insider for the Salt Lake Tribune and he writes
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  Speaker 3: his data column weekly, Andy Larson, Welcome.
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  Speaker 1: Back to the show. How are you, sir? I'm good man,
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  Speaker 1: How I'm doing great?
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  Speaker 3: Did the Utah Jazz find themselves the next triple double
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  Speaker 3: machine in use of Nurkic back to back triple doubles.
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  Speaker 4: He's now smith all time in jazz triple doubles. Amazing,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's remarkable, right, Like, I mean, props
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  Speaker 4: the Nurkic for going from like a guy who was
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  Speaker 4: salary dumped with the first round pick from the Suns
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  Speaker 4: last year to being a legitimate contributor on on like
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  Speaker 4: what appears to be you know, like he is the
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  Speaker 4: offensive engine of this team. It's it's pretty bunkers and
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  Speaker 4: also says a lot about how few triple doubles the
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  Speaker 4: Jazz has had that two is good enough to get
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  Speaker 4: you top five on the all time Jazz List.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, we had.
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  Speaker 3: We had Gordy Chase in studio yesterday and he gave
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  Speaker 3: us the list of triple doubles in Utah jazz history,
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  Speaker 3: the triple double leaders, and it was like, with one,
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  Speaker 3: you're going to.
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  Speaker 1: The top five.
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  Speaker 3: A bunch of guys tied with one triple doubles.
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  Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, Carl.
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  Speaker 3: I mean the fact that Karl Malone only had three
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  Speaker 3: in his entire career is genuinely shocking to me.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, no one was getting like ten assists
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  Speaker 4: back then, right, Like that's other than John Stockton. And
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  Speaker 4: then you know, obviously John Stockton couldn't get ten rebounds
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  Speaker 4: very often. You know. The way thing is just like
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  Speaker 4: in the last two decades, where you know, all sorts
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  Speaker 4: of random guys have gotten a ton of triple doubles,
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  Speaker 4: the Jazz didn't have anyone to get there. I think
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  Speaker 4: some of that was like Quinn Snyder's offensive system for
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  Speaker 4: nearly a decade did not lead to a lot of
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  Speaker 4: assist totals. But you know, and now, it's nurk not
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  Speaker 4: you know, Donovan Mitchell, not Darren Williams, not you know,
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  Speaker 4: Gordon Hayward, not Rudy Gobert. It's not Lowry Markinen, it's
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  Speaker 4: Usuf Nurkics, it's not Cante George, it's use of Nurkics
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  Speaker 4: getting these triple doubles.
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  Speaker 3: Do you know so Mark Eaton right now is second
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  Speaker 3: on the all time list of triple doubles. He had six,
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  Speaker 3: pistol Pete Maravitch had seven. Do you know if Mark
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  Speaker 3: Eaton's doubles were like ten block triple doubles instead of
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  Speaker 3: assist and point triple doubles. I mean it feels like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they were blocks were his third stat and all those right, Yes,
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  Speaker 3: that's such an insane thing for block shots to be
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  Speaker 3: in double digits.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, Rudy Gobert got nine blocks once but didn't
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  Speaker 4: never got to the triple double ten.
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  Speaker 3: That's a that's a wild thing. But we're not here
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  Speaker 3: just to talk triple doubles. Look, I think you're gonna
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  Speaker 3: hear this question from me every time you join me,
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  Speaker 3: because it's once a month or less, is his team
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  Speaker 3: too good to achieve what they're actually trying to achieve
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  Speaker 3: this year.
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  Speaker 4: I mean it feels if they played everyone. Yes, I
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  Speaker 4: think they are right. Like, I think we have some
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  Speaker 4: pretty good evidence at this point that if you play
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  Speaker 4: Lowry Market and a new play Kiante George, and you
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  Speaker 4: play norkicch and See and you you surround them with
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  Speaker 4: some reasonably good young guys, which is what it appears
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  Speaker 4: the Jazz have, Like you can get the thirty five
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  Speaker 4: to maybe even forty wins like and that is probably
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  Speaker 4: too good to get you a bottom eight spot in
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  Speaker 4: the draft order, which is what the Jazz need in
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  Speaker 4: order to keep their pick. And so I think that's
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  Speaker 4: why you have seen over the last few weeks the
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  Speaker 4: Jazz choose to sit a use of Nur Kitchens Fee
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  Speaker 4: and and you know, Lowry I think was legitimately ill
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  Speaker 4: last week. He looked exhausted in his return to fitness,
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  Speaker 4: you know, conditioning before the game yesterday. But you know,
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  Speaker 4: I think there is clearly you know, the Jazz are
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  Speaker 4: going to play with the injury report, the availability report
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  Speaker 4: a little bit despite what was said in the offseason,
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  Speaker 4: and do what it takes to try to keep this
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  Speaker 4: pick because it is you know, it does raise the
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  Speaker 4: ceiling of the team a lot to have a pick
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  Speaker 4: in this lottery, because you know, this is fun and
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  Speaker 4: nice if you kind of put it all together with
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  Speaker 4: this roster, but no one really believes it can be
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  Speaker 4: championship competitive. It clearly does need, you know, a top
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  Speaker 4: level All Star All NBA caliber player to be really compete,
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  Speaker 4: you know, for a championship.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we talked a lot last year about who on
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  Speaker 3: the roster now is part of a future cores that
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  Speaker 3: can actually compete for something, and you know, Keyante George
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  Speaker 3: has obviously played himself into a situation where I think
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  Speaker 3: you have to acknowledge that he should be there. And
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if it changes people's calculus on well,
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  Speaker 3: let's get even younger, and maybe that means your commitment
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  Speaker 3: to Lowry is a little bit different. Obviously, Walker Kessler
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  Speaker 3: has been hurt all year, but they think very highly
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  Speaker 3: of him. So if you're looking to the future and
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  Speaker 3: hopefully keeping that lottery pick, and you're like, Okay, well
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  Speaker 3: we have this core.
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  Speaker 1: Who is that core now?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the core is Lowry Walker a fan Kante and
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  Speaker 4: that's been made clear to me, you know, by the
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  Speaker 4: front office and the coaching staff, and like that is
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  Speaker 4: kind of who they're considering as their core for. You know, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you're hoping for development from the likes of Brice sens Bond,
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  Speaker 4: Cody Williams and Taylor Hendrix and Isaiah Collier. But those
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  Speaker 4: four guys that I named earlier are the core they are,
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  Speaker 4: and then they're looking for, Okay, who is the fifth
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  Speaker 4: piece that kind of makes sense next to them? And
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  Speaker 4: you know, you look at the strengths and weaknesses of
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  Speaker 4: the team and it's probably you need someone who can defend,
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  Speaker 4: probably defend the opponent's best player, you know, probably a guard,
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  Speaker 4: probably a wing player, you know, someone with length. And
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  Speaker 4: you know, there's hope that maybe Taylor Hendricks or Cody
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  Speaker 4: Williams can become that, but probably not and it probably
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  Speaker 4: means a new acquisition. So but yeah, like that's the
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  Speaker 4: core they have a core for in mind. And obviously
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  Speaker 4: you'd like to see more development from Ace. You want
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  Speaker 4: to see Walker get through a season healthy and so on.
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  Speaker 4: But like that does seem to make sense as a
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  Speaker 4: core that can play off one another.
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  Speaker 3: Pretty well, we're pretty far into the Ace Bailey rookie year. Now,
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  Speaker 3: he had a career high twenty five points. He posterized
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  Speaker 3: Victor Webbinyama, which for me means he's a better player
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  Speaker 3: than Victor Webbin Yama.
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  Speaker 1: That's how I'm going to calculate this moving forward.
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  Speaker 3: But in all seriousness, Ace Bailey, I think it's been
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  Speaker 3: really cool to see how he is fitting into this team,
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  Speaker 3: especially after all of the reporting around the start of it,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, he doesn't want to go this place,
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  Speaker 3: and he's going to hold out if this team drafts him,
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  Speaker 3: and all that is just water so far under the
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  Speaker 3: bridge now and seems like the kid genuinely enjoys what
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  Speaker 3: he's doing and works hard, and his development has been
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  Speaker 3: fun to watch. Is it on pace with what this
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  Speaker 3: Jazz team expected and needed from him?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, He's a good kid and was just I think
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  Speaker 4: hurt so much by his former manager, Omark Cooper, who
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  Speaker 4: he fired over the summer, right, So I thought that
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  Speaker 4: move showed a lot of maturity, you know, he is.
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  Speaker 4: It's kind of a different player than I think a
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  Speaker 4: lot a lot of fans expected coming out of the draft,
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  Speaker 4: where he has just kind of been a part of
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  Speaker 4: Utah's offensive system. But not. You know, he's not taking
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  Speaker 4: too many shots. He's not taking a lot of like
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  Speaker 4: mid range pull ups. He's not kind of stopping the
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  Speaker 4: offense in order to get his He's a part of
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  Speaker 4: kind of what the Jazz offensive scheme is, right Like,
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  Speaker 4: he's in the corner for a lot of possessions. Sometimes
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  Speaker 4: he comes off of pick and rolls, but a lot
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  Speaker 4: of it's like cuts and putbacks and getting out in transition.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that's what we saw last night. You know,
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  Speaker 4: Will Hardy complimented the variety of baskets he scored on
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  Speaker 4: the way to twenty five, So you know, I think
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  Speaker 4: that's really encouraging. Is you know, he's not going to
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  Speaker 4: be a system breaking kind of player. He's going to
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  Speaker 4: be someone who's additive to what you're doing. And there's
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  Speaker 4: still a long way to go. He needs to, you know,
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  Speaker 4: absolutely raise the focus on the defensive end. I think
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  Speaker 4: he tries sometimes but can get back to it pretty easily.
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  Speaker 4: But it's you know, it's as encouraging. The numbers are
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  Speaker 4: not that encouraging. You know, it's not like star level
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  Speaker 4: production in his rookie season like you see from Cooper
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  Speaker 4: Flag or Kong k Nipple or one of those guys.
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  Speaker 4: But it is team first play and that's that's really
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  Speaker 4: cool to see given kind of what the concerns on
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  Speaker 4: him were coming out of the draft.
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  Speaker 3: Andy Larson, our guest here on the Shot on Connell Show,
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  Speaker 3: Utah Jazz, an NBA insider over at the Salt Lake Tribune.
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  Speaker 1: What does the NBA say think?
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  Speaker 3: What are what are the behind the scenes conversations like
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  Speaker 3: about this gray area that players in ncable A teams
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  Speaker 3: are now operating in where you've got guys that have
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  Speaker 3: pro contracts, it doesn't work out, and then they bounce
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  Speaker 3: back into the n C Double A. I mean, we've
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  Speaker 3: we've talked about this a lot from the college perspective,
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  Speaker 3: but what does the NBA think of this? You've got
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  Speaker 3: a lawsuit with this Charles Bidiaco guy who is trying
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  Speaker 3: to get back to college basketball after being in the
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  Speaker 3: G League for three years and signing two way contracts
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  Speaker 3: in the NBA.
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  Speaker 1: Does the league care about this?
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  Speaker 4: I don't think the NBA cares about it this point
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  Speaker 4: because it is like G League guys as guys who
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  Speaker 4: have fallen out of the NBA who are trying to
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  Speaker 4: go back to college, right like the new Bau kid.
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  Speaker 4: What's Abdullah I forget his last name, but you know
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  Speaker 4: Abdullah Met I believe, yeah, he's he's you know, was
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  Speaker 4: the guy who played for the Westchester next coming off
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  Speaker 4: the bench. The NBA as the league is not worried
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  Speaker 4: about like minor league bench guys. Right, James Nagy, who
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  Speaker 4: was drafted, you know, in the second round going back
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  Speaker 4: to college, I don't think is that concerning because he
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  Speaker 4: fell out of the league. So yeah, you know, I
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  Speaker 4: think it's mostly an issue that kind of college basketball
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  Speaker 4: has to figure out. It's been interesting how bad James
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  Speaker 4: Nagy has been in college quite frankly, like he's averaging
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  Speaker 4: two points a game and has not been good. But
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  Speaker 4: you know, will that change? I think kind of one
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  Speaker 4: interesting way that I see this unfolding is the bottom
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  Speaker 4: of the first round and top of the second round
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  Speaker 4: is going to get a lot worse for teams. You know,
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  Speaker 4: as guys like you know, Richie Saunders, for example, debate
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  Speaker 4: should I make three million dollars a year in NIL
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  Speaker 4: or should I go to the NBA and make you know,
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  Speaker 4: one million dollars on my rookie contract. It may be
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  Speaker 4: the best choice for them. Financially to stay in college,
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  Speaker 4: and that means that you probably get fewer nineteen year
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  Speaker 4: olds in the league, which may actually raise the product
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  Speaker 4: overall in the NBA. Right If you're getting more twenty
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  Speaker 4: one and twenty two year olds junior seniors than you're
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  Speaker 4: used to than you know, we've seen over the last
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  Speaker 4: twenty years, that might actually be a good thing for
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  Speaker 4: the league. So, you know, they have not stepped in
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  Speaker 4: any way. I don't think they will unless something changes.
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  Speaker 4: But there's there's some pros and cons from a from
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  Speaker 4: an NBA point of view, for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Are any of the Jazz opponents potentially going to be
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  Speaker 3: affected by this this winter storm that is going to
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  Speaker 3: take over the eastern half of the United States? Are
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  Speaker 3: their contingency plans in place in case somebody can't. I
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  Speaker 3: haven't looked where everyone's coming from on their way to
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  Speaker 3: Salt Lake City or anything like that. But is this
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  Speaker 3: something that the Jazz have to worry about?
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  Speaker 4: You know, that's a good question. They have changed the
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  Speaker 4: start time for one game on the East coast. Miami
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  Speaker 4: is coming into play tomorrow. I would imagine given the
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  Speaker 4: timing of that, they'll fly in today. I should check
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  Speaker 4: with Miami's staff and see if everything goes well there.
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  Speaker 4: But I assume the timing works out there. Maybe they
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  Speaker 4: don't get home. I don't know what Miami's next game is,
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  Speaker 4: so that's yeah, again, I just need to see what
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  Speaker 4: works out for them. I'm guessing if they're coming out
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  Speaker 4: of the way out to you thought, usually the NBA
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  Speaker 4: schedule works that they're going to Phoenix or Denver or
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  Speaker 4: Portland or wherever next. But yeah, it certainly is a
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  Speaker 4: big deal for teams in the Eastern Conference. After the
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  Speaker 4: Jazz play the Heat, then they play the Clippers. Obviously
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  Speaker 4: that's not a concern. That's actually a national TV game
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  Speaker 4: as well. Then they play the Warriors, obviously not a concern,
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  Speaker 4: and then Brooklyn not until next Friday, after you know,
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  Speaker 4: the storm probably is figured out. So I don't think
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  Speaker 4: it's going to be a Jazz issue. I think there
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  Speaker 4: could be some scheduling issues for the you know, kind
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  Speaker 4: of Southeast teams in over the next few days, but
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  Speaker 4: I don't think that will ripple effect out to the Jazz.
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  Speaker 3: I put a pole question out the other day in
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  Speaker 3: response to an email and a tweet and a couple
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  Speaker 3: of text messages. I got about Miller Sports Entertainment, new
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  Speaker 3: owners of Utah Royals FC and the Real Salt Lake
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  Speaker 3: brands kind of doing a survey on you know, their brand, impact,
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  Speaker 3: awareness and things like that in the community.
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  Speaker 1: I know you've seen this.
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  Speaker 3: My pole question was would you support a rebrand or
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  Speaker 3: rename of Real Salt Lake.
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  Speaker 1: I got about five hundred votes.
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  Speaker 3: Sixty two percent of people say no, just under thirty
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  Speaker 3: eight percent say yes they would support that. Where does
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  Speaker 3: Andy Blarsan stand on this front?
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  Speaker 4: I'm I'm pretty anti changing the name. Look, Ray also
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  Speaker 4: likes a goofy name, just like Utah Jazz is right,
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  Speaker 4: like for sure, no doubt about it. I think we
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  Speaker 4: should like, I think we should a embrace the fact
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  Speaker 4: that this is a team that has won a championship
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  Speaker 4: and embrace the fact that this is a name that
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  Speaker 4: the fans have, you know, rallied around for twenty two years.
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  Speaker 4: I think you know, if you rebrand, there's a lot
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  Speaker 4: of really bad ways that can go. Even if you
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  Speaker 4: think that you are smart and can avoid the Ryan
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  Speaker 4: Smith turning Jazz into yellow stuff, it can still go
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  Speaker 4: really badly. I don't want Utah United or a Utah FC, Like,
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  Speaker 4: come on now, It's just I don't like any of
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  Speaker 4: the possibilities. I look, it's obviously it's a goofy name,
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  Speaker 4: but like it's it's what we call the soccer team.
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  Speaker 4: This is who we are, this is you know, we
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  Speaker 4: have chance and all this kind of history culture built
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  Speaker 4: up around what this name is. And so I hate
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  Speaker 4: this idea that the Millers are coming into RSL and
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  Speaker 4: instead of investing in the product on the pitch, which
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  Speaker 4: has been abysmal, they are trying to figure out if
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  Speaker 4: their fans want to change the team name, like focus
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  Speaker 4: on what matters. And look, I get that they're signing
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  Speaker 4: a completely average midfielder today, but it's I'm as an
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  Speaker 4: RSL fan, I their priorities are in the wrong place,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm I'm pretty annoyed about it.
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  Speaker 3: You're an actual soccer fan, right, you're a real soccer fan.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, I have RSL season tickets. I watch I
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  Speaker 4: watch a ton of soccer.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, Uh, do you have any World Cup plans? With
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: the World Cup coming to North America?
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  Speaker 4: So I went to the Brazil World Cup what is
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: almost ten years ago now, and more than ten years
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  Speaker 4: ago now, that's.
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  Speaker 3: A FLA, that's a flex okay, fancy, and it was awesome.
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  Speaker 4: And so I spent six thousand dollars. I saved up
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  Speaker 4: like two hundred dollars a month when I was in
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  Speaker 4: college and working my quick like real estate job after college,
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  Speaker 4: and yeah, paid six thousand dollars a month to go
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  Speaker 4: on this flight with the American Outlaws, the US supporters
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  Speaker 4: group to Brazil for all the US Games and it ruled.
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  Speaker 4: We stayed in Brazil for two weeks on the beach
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  Speaker 4: in Natal. We got flown them in Now's in the
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  Speaker 4: rainforest to see them play, like it was. It was sick.
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  Speaker 4: It is like maybe more expensive to watch this World
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  Speaker 4: Cup in the in the US, it is harder to
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  Speaker 4: get tickets. It is hard. Not a flight at Kansas City.
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  Speaker 4: It is crazy. So I would love to go to
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  Speaker 4: some of these games, and you know, and I expect
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  Speaker 4: something will work out so that I can, but like
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  Speaker 4: it's it's hard logistically to figure out how to make
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  Speaker 4: this work. So I hope to, but I don't know
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  Speaker 4: what I'm doing at this point. Like it is because
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  Speaker 4: these tickets are just thousands of dollars to go to
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  Speaker 4: you know, the forty nine.
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  Speaker 3: Ers stadium or whatever, and you'll tear attendant after you
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  Speaker 3: go there. You'll because of the power substations.
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  Speaker 4: The electrical substations are are going to get this all.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no one, no one is.
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  Speaker 3: No one's taking a look at what kind of effect
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  Speaker 3: these things have on the fans, all right, Like how
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  Speaker 3: many how many forty nine ers fans walking up to
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  Speaker 3: their seat in row thirty six have blown out a knee.
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  Speaker 1: We need to take a look at this.
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  Speaker 4: The stats are clear that electricity is bad for us. Yeah.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: I think this is the funniest. This is the funniest
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: like conspiracy theory I've seen on the internet in a
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: long time, because like, yeah, man, we've got electricity now.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: I don't know what to say about it.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: Anyway, here's my big problem with it is now the
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: players are starting to pay enough attention to it that
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: the Niners are launching some investigation into it, and it's
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: just it is a lose lose for the organization. And
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: that's my favorite pro sports team in existence. If you
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: find some ethereal link between tendon injuries and the electric
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: field on somebody's guse meter, then you get sued by
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: everybody who ever played for you. And if you come
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: back and you say no, we studied it and everything's fine.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: Then everyone thinks you're suppressing information and that you're lying
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: about it.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: So it's just a lose lose for them.
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: My hope is somehow this goes back to them going
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: back to Candlestick Park, Like just I say it, we
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: got to st Levi the stadium.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: Now it doesn't exist anymore, it's gone.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: You got to build a new one on the spot
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: of Candlesticks perfect.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: I think there's apartments there now. But that's fine, we'll
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: do it. James said, you might have a grievance you
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: want to air because it's we're an hour early, but
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: because you are kind of have to give us some time.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Is there a grievance you'd like to air?
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: I thought, James, I thought my grievance would be the
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: rs ALL name thing. Yeah, yeah, I don't know that
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: I got anything else.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: Well, guess what, I support renaming the team. So now
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: your grievance can be with me.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: Oh that's that's a good one. Yeah, okay. Sean O'Connell
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: on my you know on my hit list that the
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: level to which you would be a bad enemy to
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: pick for me is extremely You literally won a million
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: dollars fighting MMA. I am a huge nerd. I was,
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: I would. I should not pick ties with you.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Hey, look, nerds run the world. Man.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: You got a lot more power than I do, and
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: I'm totally on board with it. I'll try to be
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: an honorary nerd on some things.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: I think that's true just by having me on the show,
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: like you're you're extending me Alli Branch.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: You know, nerd by association. I'll take it. It's good
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: enough for me. Okay, Yeah, Andy, I appreciate your time
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: as always.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Have a good weekend.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: Thanks Ania.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Andy B.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: Larson affectionately referred to by me as Andy Blarson because
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: you know that's what his Twitter is, Andy B. Larson,
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: Andy Blarson go follow me to great work on the Jazz.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: The NBA owned his data column as well for the
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: Salt Lake Tribune.