Latest / Vigilante Vibes Podcast / Ep. 251. Who is Doctor Doom?!
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- 0:08Hello comic. He smelled nerds in between My
- 0:11Name is Megan and I'm here with another character breakdown by
- 0:13the guy who is the talk of the town.
- 0:15All because of Avengers Doomsday, which I want to say is
- 0:18right around the corner but it feels so far away.
- 0:20But maybe a trailer's right around the corner.
- 0:23Unless the trailer is posted before this episode comes out,
- 0:25then check out my reaction to it.
- 0:29So I have made an episode like this before about Victor Von
- 0:32Doom, but that was about a year ago.
- 0:34My quality has gotten better and so much has happened with Victor
- 0:37Von Doom in the comics that we have to go through it all.
- 0:40So let me take you down the history of Victor Von Doom
- 0:43because he's a complex character, he's a cool character
- 0:46and he's one of my favorite villains and I think that's a
- 0:49pretty normal take. So let's get right into it.
- 0:54So Victor von Doom has many first appearances because he's
- 0:58taken on so many roles. His first appearance was in
- 1:01Fantastic Four Number 5 in April of 1962.
- 1:04That was as Doctor Doom. His first appearance as God
- 1:07Emperor Doom was in Secret ward #2 in May of 2015.
- 1:13His first appearance as Iron Man was Infamous Iron Man #1 and his
- 1:18first appearance as Emperor Doom was in Fantastic Four Volume 7
- 1:22#28 in January of 2025. He was created by Stan Lee and
- 1:27Jack Kirby. Victor von Doom came into the
- 1:30world in a Romani camp outside of Laviria.
- 1:33He his life started rough and only got worse.
- 1:36His mother, Cynthia died after a deal with Mephisto went terribly
- 1:40wrong. His father tried to save her,
- 1:42but failed, and the two fled into the brutal winter night.
- 1:45Victor made it through, his father did not.
- 1:48But that loss did stick with him.
- 1:51And then from there on out, Victor was driven by one goal.
- 1:55Master both science and magic, so he could free his mother's
- 1:58soul and make Mephisto pay. Which is a worthy goal, I'd say.
- 2:02But, you know, aim for the stars.
- 2:05As a young man, Victor fell very, very hard for a woman
- 2:09named Valeria. Or Valeria.
- 2:12I've been asking this for years and I don't know how to say her
- 2:17name. Everyone says it different, it's
- 2:19either Valeria or Valeria. I want to say Valeria cause
- 2:23Valeria sounds kind of like a disease.
- 2:26Unless the name of my listener's name is Valeria and I'm very
- 2:29sorry. But anyways, she did not return
- 2:31the feelings. But keep that name in mind.
- 2:34Not long after, he earned a scholarship to a university in
- 2:37New York where he met Reed Richards and Ben Grimm.
- 2:40Right away, there was tension. Victor and Reed clashed hard.
- 2:44They were equals intellectually, constantly pushing each other
- 2:48with wild, cutting edge ideas that left professors comparing
- 2:52them to legends like Einstein and Davinci.
- 2:55But where Reed focused on space travel, Victor became obsessed
- 2:59with building a machine to project souls into other
- 3:02dimensions, which would be a way for him to reach his mother.
- 3:06Reed spotted a flaw in Victor's calculations and warned him.
- 3:10Victor ignored it because it's Reed.
- 3:12You know who doesn't ignore Reed?
- 3:14The machine blew up, scarring his face and getting him
- 3:16expelled. From that moment on, Victor
- 3:19blamed Reed for everything. His injuries, his disgrace, all
- 3:23of it. Also, Reed Richard, the villain,
- 3:25and I will die on that hill. Bitter and determined, Victor
- 3:29disappeared and traveled the world until he found a group of
- 3:32monks in Tibet who helped him forge his iconic armor.
- 3:36Then he went home, took over Latveria, and crowned himself
- 3:40ruler, Which makes for a very interesting Tuesday.
- 3:43With a whole country behind him, he set his sights higher.
- 3:47Total domination. Naturally, that put him on a
- 3:50collision course with the Fantastic Four again and again
- 3:53and again. Doom's early battles were wild.
- 3:57Kidnapping Sue Storm, forcing the team through time, teaming
- 4:00up with Neymour, swapping minds with Reed, even shrinking
- 4:04himself into a subatomic world and taking it over.
- 4:07No matter how big or bizarre the plan.
- 4:09The Fantastic Four kept stopping him.
- 4:12But Doom never stayed down for long.
- 4:14He kept getting smarter and angrier and more dangerous and
- 4:18more spiteful. At one point he stole the Silver
- 4:22Surfer's cosmic power and actually defeated the Fantastic
- 4:25Four running rampant across the planet, until he lost that power
- 4:30again. Another time, he nearly took
- 4:32over the entire world using mind control, creating a strange,
- 4:36perfect society with no war, no hunger, but also no free will.
- 4:42Even then, he grew bored. Victory without challenge meant
- 4:46absolutely nothing to him. Despite everything, Doom did
- 4:51eventually succeed in freeing his mother's soul with help from
- 4:54Doctor Strange. The scheme to free his mother
- 4:57required Doom to incur her undying hatred by volunteering
- 5:01Strange to take her place. Cynthia Von Doom was so
- 5:05disgusted at her son that she became too pure to remain in
- 5:08hell and departed for heaven. Strange wondered out loud if
- 5:12Doom had been aware of this outcome when he made the deal,
- 5:15but Doom simply said that his mother's hatred was a price that
- 5:18he was willing to pay to ensure her freedom.
- 5:21For him, results mattered more than anything.
- 5:23So you can say a lot of things about Doctor Doom.
- 5:25You say he's a bad dude. You can say that he was a awful
- 5:29ruler, but you can't say he was a bad son.
- 5:33Over the years, he fought alongside and against just about
- 5:36everyone. Avengers, X-Men, cosmic beings,
- 5:39even saved reality itself from. In his own twisted way, he's
- 5:43ruled worlds, built entire universes, and even at one point
- 5:46literally became a God. But even with ultimate power,
- 5:50which unlimited power, he couldn't escape one truth.
- 5:53Deep down, he believed he was the flaw in his own perfect
- 5:57world. That realization pushed him in a
- 6:00new direction for a time. He tried to be better, working
- 6:03with heroes, giving up his throne, even stepping into Iron
- 6:06Man's role, which is infamous Iron Man.
- 6:08And if you're interested to know exactly what happens in that
- 6:10run, I have a video all about it.
- 6:14But Doom being Doom, that path never stayed simple.
- 6:17He kept slipping between savior and tyrant, always chasing
- 6:21control, always trying to prove he knows what's best for
- 6:24everyone. Out of nowhere, the entire
- 6:26planet got swallowed in dark force.
- 6:29A total blackout, no sunlight at all, which basically opened the
- 6:32door for vampires to take over globally.
- 6:35This was a fantastic run called Blood Hunt, and I don't care
- 6:38what anyone says, I loved it. So most of the world fell fast,
- 6:45but Doom was ready for it. He already put a spell on
- 6:48Latveria that instantly killed any vampire who tried to cross
- 6:51the border. While everyone else was
- 6:54scrambling, Doom saw an opportunity not just to survive,
- 6:57but to come out looking like the hero and grab even more power.
- 7:01He pulled in the students of Strange Academy from Madreport
- 7:04and brought them back to Latveria.
- 7:06Not long after, Doctor Strange showed up an Astro form
- 7:09alongside Clea, who is his wife, asking for Doom's help.
- 7:13That's when Doom dropped the real bomb.
- 7:15The whole invasion was orchestrated by Vernai, the
- 7:19original vampire who had taken over Blade Body.
- 7:24Doom then made his move. He asked Strange to hand over
- 7:27the title of Sorcerer's Prem so he'd have enough power to stop
- 7:30Vernai. Strange did not like it, but
- 7:34agreed on one condition. Doom had to give the title back.
- 7:37Once the world was saved, Doom accepted, at least on the
- 7:42surface he accepted. Now powered up as a Sorcerer's
- 7:46Prem, Doom combined his magic with the students abilities.
- 7:50Together they took down Vernai. Doom even cleared the dark force
- 7:54from the sky. But there is a catch.
- 7:56Vampires lost their weakness to sunlight.
- 7:59And right after the win, Doom immediately twisted the deal.
- 8:02Instead of giving the title back, he sent Strange back into
- 8:06his body and announced the entire world that he was now the
- 8:08Sorcerer's prim and their savior, which was diabolical.
- 8:14Then he vanished. Doom locked his self away in
- 8:18Latveria, shielding it with magic so no one could track him.
- 8:22Like they didn't know where you were from there.
- 8:25An astral form of course. He summoned The Avengers to the
- 8:28desert and basically called them out, asking why they never used
- 8:32their powers to actually fix the world.
- 8:34He even showed them a vision of a perfect utopia they could have
- 8:38created. The Avengers push back, saying
- 8:40forcing people into change would only make things worse, that
- 8:43their job was to protect the world, not control it.
- 8:45Doom did not care, he had bigger plans because of the Sorcerer's
- 8:50Supreme Mantle. Doom inherited a magical
- 8:53obligation to fight the scions of Sidorak, but he had zero
- 8:57interest in doing himself. So he dumped the job on Spider
- 9:00Man, gave him enchanted armor and the Reeds of Raggedore,
- 9:04which would resurrect him up to 8 times if he died fighting
- 9:07them. Problem solved, Very much in
- 9:10Doom style. Meanwhile, some magical beings
- 9:15tried to forge a weapon to kill Doom in the Astral Plane.
- 9:18He took them out, but they managed to hide the sword in
- 9:21medieval Europe before dying. Annoyed, Doom manipulated the
- 9:25Black Knight into tricking Reed and Sue Richards into finding
- 9:28the sword for him so he could destroy it.
- 9:31Then, of course, he immediately tried to kill them.
- 9:33But Reed, now with some magical skills of his own, got them both
- 9:38out safely. And then Doom made his biggest
- 9:40play yet. In a single day, every world
- 9:44leader supposedly willingly pledged loyalty to him.
- 9:48The entire planet became united. Latveria governments were
- 9:52allowed to exist, but only under Doom's authority.
- 9:55He promised to end war and provide top tier healthcare and
- 9:58education for everyone. He even killed Baron Zemo,
- 10:02replaced him with a Doombot, and turned Hydra into a force for
- 10:05good. When heroes exposed that trick,
- 10:08Hydra snapped back to being evil, which Doom spun to his
- 10:11advantage to win public support. He even rode a dinosaur version
- 10:15of himself as a symbol of his rule and sent Doombots around
- 10:18the globe to clean up any rogue copies.
- 10:21Reed Richards challenged him publicly on TV, but it was a
- 10:24distraction. While Doom was occupied, Scarlet
- 10:27Witch, Invisible Woman, the Black Widow infiltrated
- 10:30Doomstad, and what they found was horrific.
- 10:34Lavarian citizens had been imprisoned in Doom's castle for
- 10:37months, their souls being harvested to fuel his magic.
- 10:41They broadcast the evidence worldwide.
- 10:43Doom did not try to deny it. He straight up said he'd
- 10:46sacrifice millions more if that's what it took.
- 10:49You got to, you got to appreciate his gumption.
- 10:53That was the turning point. The entire world turned on him.
- 10:57Doom went to war against The Avengers, the Fantastic Four,
- 10:59and the X-Men, all trying to stop him from locking reality
- 11:02into a fixed point under his control.
- 11:05He fought Reed in the astral plane and completely outclassed
- 11:08him, a magic even absorbing Reed's power, but spared him
- 11:12because of Valeria or Valeria. I don't.
- 11:15I don't. So if you don't know who she is,
- 11:18yes, she was named after a woman that Doom loved.
- 11:24Sue gave Doom permission to name their child after he saved them
- 11:28and he chose Valeria or Valeria. And he's also her godfather who
- 11:34Valeria really really respects and she has a really big part in
- 11:39this one World under Doom event. So then Valeria or Valeria
- 11:46confronted Doom in his own mind. She thanked him for sparing her
- 11:49father, but begged him to stop. Doom brushed it off, saying he'd
- 11:53prove he could control everything.
- 11:55But back in the real fight, he pushed back even harder, using
- 11:59chaos magic to shut down mutant powers, shrugging off attacks,
- 12:03and finally unleashing his end game.
- 12:05He poured all of his power into one massive strike to create a
- 12:09fixed point in reality. His armor shattered from the
- 12:12force, shards flying everywhere as the plan succeeded, but he
- 12:17did not know that Valeria had arrived to stop him in Laviria.
- 12:23She got caught in the blast, impaled by a fragments in his
- 12:27armor. She tried to call out to him but
- 12:29then died right there. That absolutely broke him.
- 12:34One thing to know about Doom, as I said, he was very he's very
- 12:37complex, but there is one person he has loved more than anyone
- 12:42and that is the daughter of Reed and Sue Valeria.
- 12:45Doom immediately grabbed her soul before it could pass on and
- 12:49tried everything. His own magic, then the
- 12:51Vashanti. Nothing worked.
- 12:53In desperation he went to the Living Tribunal, begged them to
- 12:57undo what he'd done and bring her back.
- 12:59They refused at 1st until Doom showed them his soul and how far
- 13:03he was willing to go. Everything, no conditions.
- 13:07That was enough. They agreed.
- 13:09Valeria was brought back, that fixed point was undone, and Doom
- 13:13paid the price. Dying.
- 13:15He went to Reed Richards, not for help, not for forgiveness,
- 13:19but to tell him what he'd done. He gave up everything, his
- 13:22power, his rule, even his soul, just to save her.
- 13:26Reed told him Valeria was alive. Doom's answer was simple.
- 13:30It was worth it. His body faded away, leaving
- 13:33only his mask behind. And inside it, Reed found Doom's
- 13:37final message, his will carved into the one thing he left
- 13:41behind. So that continues on to the will
- 13:45of Doom and Dungeons of Doom. And you would think that who is
- 13:50he going to leave everything to? It must be someone we're not
- 13:53thinking it was Valeria, that he left everything to her, which
- 13:57makes sense. It it makes the most sense.
- 13:59But it was also like, I think we all saw that coming.
- 14:02And if you haven't checked out Dungeons of Doom, this is when
- 14:06the, I wouldn't say the world's leaders, but the world's
- 14:09governments, the world's shady outlets that no one should know
- 14:14about. They all go inside Castle Doom
- 14:18to take whatever he has left because he's dead.
- 14:21What's he going to do with it? And it is a terrifying and
- 14:25horrific comic because it heavily leans on the horror
- 14:29aspect of it. And it it was just really good.
- 14:32And if you haven't checked it out, you absolutely should.
- 14:35So in the end, everything comes back to the same core.
- 14:39Victor von Doom is driven, brilliant, and completely
- 14:42convinced that the world would be better if he ruled it.
- 14:46And whether he's saving reality or tearing it apart, he never
- 14:49does anything halfway. Because in his mind, Doom isn't
- 14:53just a man. He was the answer.
- 14:56And now he's dead. So that is Victor Von Doom.
- 15:00That is his full history of Marvel Comics.
- 15:02I understand this was a lot. This is a really big episode.
- 15:07Usually my character breakdowns are not this long, but it's
- 15:10Victor Von Doom and you can't leave out any details.
- 15:13So I hope you enjoyed this character breakdown.
- 15:15I hope we find out more about Robert Downey Junior's portrayal
- 15:18of Doom in the MCU coming up, and I hope you will like and
- 15:22subscribe. So with that being said, have a
- 15:24marvelous day.