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The Bolt Report | 12 December · The Bolt Report

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Speaker 1: He's the Bolt Report. Well, good evening and welcome to
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Speaker 1: the Bolt Report.
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Speaker 2: I'm James Macpherson Andrew Bolt will be back in the
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Speaker 2: new year, but we've got.
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Speaker 1: A big show coming up tonight.
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Speaker 2: Victorian leader John Pursuto's days are numbered after the court
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Speaker 2: found he defamed.
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Speaker 1: More redeeming.
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Speaker 2: We'll have full analysis of the verdict for you. Shortly
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Speaker 2: less than twenty four hours after the Prime Minister was
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Speaker 2: on the verge of tears calling for unity. He's betrayed
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Speaker 2: the Jewish people of Australia at the United Nations. Alex
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Speaker 2: Ritchen will join me. More hilarious virtue signaling from the left,
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Speaker 2: with Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau proudly declaring he's a
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Speaker 2: feminist and he's angry the US chose not to elect
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Speaker 2: a female president. And one of my guests tonight has
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Speaker 2: been accused of being islamophobic. GB News Patrick Christie's will
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Speaker 2: have his say later on Well. Victorian Liberal leader John
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Speaker 2: Persuto lost in court today, but the real losers were Victorians.
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Speaker 2: How are voters supposed to choose between the completely inept
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Speaker 2: Victorian Premier Jasenta Allan and then now completely discredited Victorian
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Speaker 2: opposition leader John Persudo. It's like asking Victorians would you
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Speaker 2: rather be eaten by a.
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Speaker 1: Shark or a crocodile?
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Speaker 2: The man charged with saving Victoria from labor has spent
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Speaker 2: most of the past twenty two months distracted by a
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Speaker 2: ridiculous feud with more redeeming the MP he expelled from
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Speaker 2: the Liberal party room. Judge David O'Callaghan today found Persuito
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Speaker 2: had defined the exiled MP by falsely portraying her as
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Speaker 2: a Nazi sympathizer after she helped to organize a women's
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Speaker 2: rights rally that was gate crashed by Neo Nazis. The
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Speaker 2: Victorian Liberal leader was ordered to pay three hundred thousand
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Speaker 2: dollars in damages. Now, sources close to the case say
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Speaker 2: once legal bills affected into the EQUA, the Liberal leader
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Speaker 2: could be out of pocket to the tune of two
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Speaker 2: million dollars, but that is not the most costly part.
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Speaker 2: The judge found not only the Pursuto's characterization of Deeming
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Speaker 2: was wrong, but the Pursuito should have known it was wrong.
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Speaker 2: So Pursuto misjudged the legality of what he said, which
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Speaker 2: is pretty damning since Pasuto is a lawyer and he
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Speaker 2: misjudged the politics of going after deeming, which is also
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Speaker 2: pretty damning.
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Speaker 1: Because Pursudo is a politician.
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Speaker 2: I hope he's good at making coffees, because that's where
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Speaker 2: he might end up, although, come to think of it,
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Speaker 2: making a half decent cappuccino also requires good judgment. Pursuo
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Speaker 2: didn't bother showing up to court today, which indicates he
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Speaker 2: knew what was coming. Despite that, as recently as yesterday,
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Speaker 2: he'd insisted that he would stay on as leader of
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Speaker 2: the Liberal Party no matter what the ruling. Here's what
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Speaker 2: he had to say today.
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Speaker 3: I've always been a fighter, and I've always been a
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Speaker 3: fighter for the right reasons and for the right people,
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Speaker 3: the Victorian people. And that's why I will continue in
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Speaker 3: this role now, more than ever, when it is so
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Speaker 3: clear on so many indicators that our state is headed
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Speaker 3: in the wrong direction, that we need leaders who have
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Speaker 3: that fight in them, leaders who will stand up and
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Speaker 3: be accountable and always put the interests of our state first.
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Speaker 3: That's why I will continue in this role.
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Speaker 1: I'm a fighter.
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Speaker 2: John Persudo is a fighter, all right, except the only
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Speaker 2: punches he lands are on himself. He's wasted twenty two
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Speaker 2: months fighting a colleague whose only crime was to embarrass
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Speaker 2: him by standing for women's rights in the country's most
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Speaker 2: progressive state, arguing he can continue to take the fight
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Speaker 2: up to labor after.
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Speaker 1: This result is so ludicrous.
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Speaker 2: It immediately reminded me of Monty Python's Black Knight.
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Speaker 4: Your indeed brief to night. But the fight is mine.
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Speaker 4: Oh and eh, Look.
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Speaker 5: Yes, stupid bastard. You've got the arms left, Yes, I
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Speaker 5: have Look just a flesh wound. Look, stop that chigin chicken. Look,
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Speaker 5: I'll have your leg right right, I'll do you for that.
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Speaker 1: You're what can you?
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Speaker 6: What are you going to do?
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Speaker 5: Bleed on me?
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Speaker 7: All?
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Speaker 2: You're a looney, a looney. Indeed, here's more redeeming. Speaking
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Speaker 2: outside court after her win today.
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Speaker 8: This judgment is a public acknowledgment that there was never
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Speaker 8: any justification, legal, moral, or political for what was done
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Speaker 8: to me and to my family. Yeah, this should not
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Speaker 8: have come to this. I should not have had to
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Speaker 8: go to court. This, this could have all been avoided.
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Speaker 8: I don't understand the decisions that were made that led
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Speaker 8: to this outcome. I had no other way to defend
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Speaker 8: myself than to have these things retracted. I was never
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Speaker 8: the aggressor. All I did was defend myself. Apparently all
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Speaker 8: I did was refused to defame innocent women without any evidence.
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Speaker 8: But I would have thought that's the right thing to do.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 8: I refuse to give up my principles and my advocacy
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Speaker 8: for child safeguarding, and I would have thought that's the
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Speaker 8: right thing to do.
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Speaker 2: And she just spoke to my colleague Peter Kreedlin a
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Speaker 2: short time ago, describing the entire episode as a sham.
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Speaker 8: It's been a traumatic two years and I just couldn't
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Speaker 8: help but think, you know, this has just been a
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Speaker 8: sham expulsion, a sham termination. It's done so much damage
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Speaker 8: and for what it was, obviously all not true.
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Speaker 2: Persudo doesn't survive that, and if he thinks he can,
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Speaker 2: it only proves his lack of political judgment. For the
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Speaker 2: two people still wondering, But like I said, whatever happens
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Speaker 2: to John Persudo, he's not the biggest loser. That title
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Speaker 2: belongs to long suffering Victorians who deserve better from the
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Speaker 2: government and from the alternate government. I'd say that Victoria
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Speaker 2: is a basket case, but I don't want Judge David
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Speaker 2: Callahan to rule that I've defamed baskets. The state has
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Speaker 2: a massive debt one hundred and eighty eight billion dollars
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Speaker 2: and rising. It's now the fourth most indebted state government
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Speaker 2: of any advanced economy in the world outside of the
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Speaker 2: United States that were not quite as broke as California
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Speaker 2: is hardly a boast. There are half finished, multi billion
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Speaker 2: dollar public infrastructure projects the public don't want, while there's
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Speaker 2: no plan for a train between the airport and the city,
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Speaker 2: which people do want, and we haven't yet talked about hospitals,
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Speaker 2: housing or crime. If only John Pursuito was as aggressive
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Speaker 2: attacking Justinta Allen and her hopeless government as he was
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Speaker 2: attacking More Redeeming. If Pursuito cares about Victoria as he claims,
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Speaker 2: he'll resign immediately and the Victorian Liberal Party will issue
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Speaker 2: an apology to more Redeeming and invite her back into
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Speaker 2: the party room where she can cast a vote for
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Speaker 2: whoever will be the state's fifth Liberal leader in the
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Speaker 2: past ten years. I'll have more on the court ruling
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Speaker 2: and what it means for the Victorian Liberal Party when
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Speaker 2: I speak with Herald Sun journalist James Campbell a little
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Speaker 2: later on.
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Speaker 1: Well, could the world be waking up from its woke slumber. Maybe.
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Speaker 2: The British Labor government has just announced that children will
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Speaker 2: be banned from taking puberty blockers because the drugs pose
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Speaker 2: an unacceptable safety risk. Who would have imagined that drugs
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Speaker 2: delaying the natural development of children might be inadvisable?
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Speaker 1: I mean, who would have imagined.
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Speaker 2: Aside from all the professional activists with their emotionally charged
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Speaker 2: pleas and manipulative self harm retric the UK ban also
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Speaker 2: means it's an offense for doctors outside of the UK
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Speaker 2: to prescribe the blockers for British children. Health Secretary With
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Speaker 2: Streeting said the use of puberty blockers for children was
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Speaker 2: a scandal.
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Speaker 9: Medicine has been provided on the grounds of insufficient evidence
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Speaker 9: and young people have been left to go without the
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Speaker 9: support and care they need. This government is determined to
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Speaker 9: change that. It is a scandal that medicine was given
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Speaker 9: to vulnerable young children without the proof that it is
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Speaker 9: safe or effective, or through the rigorous safeguards of a
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Speaker 9: clinical trial.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 2: The UK government's ban comes after the Commission on Human
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Speaker 2: Medicines found puberty blockers were not safe for miners.
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Speaker 9: After thoroughly examining all the available evidence, they have concluded
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Speaker 9: that Prescribing puberty blockers to children for the purposes of
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Speaker 9: gender dysphoria in the current prescribing environment represents uniquote an
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Speaker 9: unacceptable safety risk.
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Speaker 2: Unbelievably, the British Parliament was told these dangerous drugs were
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Speaker 2: being handed out to children like lollies.
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Speaker 9: The Commission on Human Medicines found that children had received
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Speaker 9: prescriptions after filling out online questionnaires and having one brief
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Speaker 9: zoom call with prescribers from outside the UK.
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Speaker 2: So this ruling by the UK Parliament means that children
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Speaker 2: will no longer be made sterile because they happen to
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Speaker 2: question their gender.
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Speaker 1: It's like the.
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Speaker 2: Green shoots of sanity poking through the snow in Narnia
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Speaker 2: when the snow begins to melt. Now they just need
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Speaker 2: to end the practice of gender self identification and the
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Speaker 2: UK will be getting somewhere as in getting back to sanity.
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Speaker 2: No such luck for Australia though, or for Australian children.
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Speaker 2: Pubert blockers are still being prescribed here, and our federal
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Speaker 2: senators have shown a complete disinterest in the subject.
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Speaker 1: Senator Pauline Hansen.
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Speaker 2: Has repeatedly called for an inquiry into what we're doing
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Speaker 2: to our children in the name of gender affirming care
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Speaker 2: and oxymoron if ever there was one, and she's been
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Speaker 2: repeatedly denied. Australian senators insisted they had no choice but
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Speaker 2: to block under sixteens from social media in order to
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Speaker 2: protect them from harm, and yet those same senators won't
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Speaker 2: even have a conversation about whether or not pure city
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Speaker 2: blockers are appropriate for children, even as the UK bans
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Speaker 2: them on medical advice. So much for following the science.
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Speaker 2: Apparently the science is different down here. So here in Australia,
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Speaker 2: little Sally can't have an Instagram account, but she can
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Speaker 2: be put on medication to stop the natural development of
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Speaker 2: her breasts because she enjoys playing with trucks. Well, Senator
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Speaker 2: Pauline Hanson joins me. Now, Senator, thanks for your time.
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Speaker 2: We're constantly told follow the science, So why aren't we
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Speaker 2: in Australia following the science and banning puberty blockers for
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Speaker 2: children just as the UK have.
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Speaker 7: There is no science here in Australia with regards to
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Speaker 7: puberty blockers. And I say they say it's reversible, it's not.
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Speaker 7: It's irreversible. There's total ignorance about the safety and effacts
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Speaker 7: of medical interventions. What they're doing here in Australia, they're
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Speaker 7: referring fifteen year olds are being re for double mistectomies,
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Speaker 7: and yet they will not listen to the people. The
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Speaker 7: parents came to see me, the mothers came to see
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Speaker 7: me to say the impact has had on their children,
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Speaker 7: and they refuse. Five times I put it up for
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Speaker 7: just send an inquiry into it, and they refused to
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Speaker 7: do it. It's just unbelievable. And you're right about the
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Speaker 7: sixteen year olds about on social media, but they won't
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Speaker 7: have an inquiry into this. It's happening around the world,
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Speaker 7: whether it be in New Zealand, Finland, UK, other countries
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Speaker 7: now are starting to realize the impact is having on
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Speaker 7: the children. And you know that here and Australia, the
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Speaker 7: gender clinics and public children's hospitals in Brisbane, Perth, Melbourne,
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Speaker 7: Sydney and other cities. They're actually it's introduced experimental medicine
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Speaker 7: as routine treatment without any high quality data. That's what
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Speaker 7: they're doing and the damage is doing to these kids.
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Speaker 7: And then they'd start taking these hormone treatments and puberty blockers.
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Speaker 7: They're on it for the rest of their lives, so
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Speaker 7: it can cause diabetes, bone density, libido, sexual function, the
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Speaker 7: whole lot. And these kids are going to destroy their lives.
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Speaker 7: And what annoys me is there was a twelve twelve
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Speaker 7: year old. The courts put this twelve year old on
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Speaker 7: it because the boy wanted to be a girl, wanted
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Speaker 7: to be a boy. For the fact is that he
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Speaker 7: was worried about getting an Adam's apple and growing hair,
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Speaker 7: so the.
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Speaker 1: Courts put him on that.
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Speaker 7: You know, where are the parents and all this? Why
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Speaker 7: are parents instead of trying to be kids, you know, friends.
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Speaker 1: To the children.
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Speaker 2: Senator I take your point, where are the parents on this?
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Speaker 2: But our senators most of them would be parents. Why
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Speaker 2: the reluctance on this issue? I mean, they're so concerned
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Speaker 2: about children's safety, except when it comes to this one issue.
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Speaker 2: What is the problem.
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Speaker 7: Because it's the LGB, I, t Q, plus all the
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Speaker 7: other letters, it goes with it, James, That's why it's
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Speaker 7: the left versus the right, because they want them to
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Speaker 7: have whatever they want to. There's been the fighter over
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Speaker 7: the years, whatever it's been, you know, gay marriage to all
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Speaker 7: the rest of it. So they feel they have the
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Speaker 7: right about this. They don't want the conservatives. It's become
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Speaker 7: so political and it's about the money as well. You know,
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Speaker 7: I was told that they make about one hundred and
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Speaker 7: fifty thousand dollars out of per operation that they may
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Speaker 7: do with this, and then it's become a two hundred
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Speaker 7: billion dollar industry. That's what it's worth. So you follow
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Speaker 7: the money trail what happens with this and these harmone
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Speaker 7: treatments and drugs that these pharmaceutical companies are pumping out there.
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Speaker 7: You just found a few gender clinics in America now,
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Speaker 7: it's over three hundred dollar it all over the place,
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Speaker 7: and yet they won't listen to it. So you know
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Speaker 7: the influence that people have over the politicians. These politicians
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Speaker 7: are brain dead and they get missed. I get so
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Speaker 7: angry with that, James, because this is about children's lives
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Speaker 7: we're destroying.
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Speaker 1: It's so amazing.
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Speaker 2: I mean we're talking about the keer Starmach government in
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Speaker 2: the UK. I mean they are pretty left and even
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Speaker 2: they've seen sense on this issue. I hope and pray
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Speaker 2: our politicians do soon as well. I want to stay
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Speaker 2: on politics, and I know there's no love lost between
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Speaker 2: you and your favorite fellow senator Marine Ferruki, but she's
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Speaker 2: had to remand her chief of staff or reprimand rather
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Speaker 2: her chief of staff for suggesting Jews themselves may have
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Speaker 2: fire bombed the Melbourne Synagogue in a false flag attack.
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Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you, how can Anthony Elbanesi still
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Speaker 2: think it's okay to give preferences to the Greens when
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Speaker 2: they are continually sowing division in the community. If Anthony
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Speaker 2: Alberanzi is committed to unity and to bringing the culture together,
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Speaker 2: shouldn't the first thing he do to say we will
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Speaker 2: not deal with the Greens because all they do is divide.
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Speaker 7: No, he won't do it because he wants the preferences
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Speaker 7: to win the seats, and they need the preferences sure
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Speaker 7: up from the Greens for preference deals to actually win
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Speaker 7: the seats. You know, all these years Labour's done no
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Speaker 7: deals with me. They will not even talk to one
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Speaker 7: nation about preferences. They always put a slave because I'm
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Speaker 7: supposed to be racist. This woman who wants your quality
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Speaker 7: for all the strands wants accountability and so anyway, that's
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Speaker 7: been that tagline with me. They won't deal with the Greens,
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Speaker 7: and you know, the staff my opinion reflects what their
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Speaker 7: employer does look at I everythink that she's done over
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Speaker 7: the years. I'm not going to go into it. I
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Speaker 7: don't need another court case, but anyway, I don't I
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Speaker 7: don't have any time for that woman, for what she
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Speaker 7: stands for her politics. I hear what they say in
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Speaker 7: the Flora Parliament. It disgusts me and it's a real shame.
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Speaker 7: I wish people would wake up and understand what the
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Speaker 7: Greens actually stand for and so UnAustralian. It's unbelievable. And
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Speaker 7: you know, to say that about the Jews and they've
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Speaker 7: committed this themselves, you know, to get some I don't know.
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Speaker 7: I think it's ridiculous. I think it is a shame.
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Speaker 7: Any other political party possibly would have acting. He maketh
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Speaker 7: the sack because you what, I think they're in line
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Speaker 7: with their way of thinking.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean that is a very good point.
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Speaker 2: I mean, this is the chief of staff of the
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Speaker 2: Deputy Leader of the Greens who says that, and he's
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Speaker 2: been reprimanded.
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Speaker 1: I want to talk about another thing.
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Speaker 2: I don't understand, Senator, that the federal government departments have
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Speaker 2: forked out six hundred and fifty thousand dollars on artwork,
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Speaker 2: dance performances and exhibitions in the past year, while the
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Speaker 2: Australian Embassy in the US spent almost a million dollars
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Speaker 2: on five pieces of art. Now the Daily Telegraph has
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Speaker 2: done some great digging on this. They also discovered more
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Speaker 2: than three hundred and thirty thousand dollars was spent signing
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Speaker 2: up government departments to a gender equality coalition in order
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Speaker 2: to advance diverse women in leadership and to build respectful workplaces.
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Speaker 2: Where's the respect for taxpayer money in the cost of
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Speaker 2: living crisis?
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Speaker 7: It is, James, I'm so over at the waste of money,
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Speaker 7: you know. I even at my time in life, I
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Speaker 7: actually watched my dollars and where that we spent them,
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Speaker 7: and I want to value for my money as I
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Speaker 7: do for these strained people. But the bureaucrats and these people,
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Speaker 7: the politicians, they lose all contact with the people. I
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Speaker 7: don't think they fully understand how people are doing it
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Speaker 7: tough out there. I mean, so how hard they are.
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Speaker 7: I fought for the age people in nursing homes and
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Speaker 7: other care packages to get nutritious food, so I was
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Speaker 7: grateful that the government has given them a thirty seven
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Speaker 7: million dollar package now and to help these age people
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Speaker 7: get nutritional food. But they've had to go cap and
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Speaker 7: hand begging for it, and I had to go and
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Speaker 7: speak to the minister about it as well. They've got
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Speaker 7: no concept of taxpayers moneies. And yet the people out
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Speaker 7: there keep voting for these politicians who have no regard
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Speaker 7: for you, take you for granted, they don't care about you.
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Speaker 7: They don't go without and it's a complete waste of money.
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Speaker 7: But this isn't the first time you have a look
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Speaker 7: at it. Over the years, I've looked into this before.
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Speaker 7: The amount of money that they have wasted on these
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Speaker 7: programs or people sixty five thousand dollars to look at
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Speaker 7: a surfing the money is that they've wasted in the
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Speaker 7: arts program is unbelievable. And it just discussed me, Angus
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Speaker 7: ta trust me.
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Speaker 2: Angus Taylor from the Coalition reckons the Coalition, if they
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Speaker 2: get into government, will be able to save one hundred
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Speaker 2: million dollars on labor waste. I and that's just the
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Speaker 2: money that's fallen down the.
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Speaker 1: Back of the couch.
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Speaker 2: So there you go, Pauline Hanson, I appreciate your time tonight.
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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining me. Well to the news I mentioned
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Speaker 2: at the top of the show. Victorian liberal leader John
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Speaker 2: Persuto's political career is surely now on borrowed time after
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Speaker 2: the federal court found he defemed more redeeming by portraying
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Speaker 2: her as a Nazi sympathizer. Joining me now is the
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Speaker 2: Herald's sons James Campbell, who's followed this defamation hearing closely.
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Speaker 2: James Pursuito had this to say earlier today.
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Speaker 3: We need better leaders in Victoria. That's why I have
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Speaker 3: this job. That's why I intend to continue in this role.
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure declaring we need better leadership was a
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Speaker 2: great line for him to use today.
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Speaker 1: James, does he survive this?
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Speaker 10: I think he does in the short term and maybe
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Speaker 10: even the medium term. He's got three things going for
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Speaker 10: him at the moment. They are the three contenders who
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Speaker 10: are putting their hands up to replace him, are keen
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Speaker 10: to replace him. That none of them can agree on
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Speaker 10: who should be the candidate, And as long as that
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Speaker 10: remains the case, it's hard to see how he gets
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Speaker 10: blasted out. They go away to Christmas now, they don't
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Speaker 10: come back, probably till mid January. I think Pursudo's friends
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Speaker 10: are assuming that the temperature is going to drop a
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Speaker 10: bit in the meaning period, and they're betting that, you know,
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Speaker 10: he's going to be okay. Whether that's wise or not,
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Speaker 10: I don't know. I don't think in the short term
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Speaker 10: or even the medium term, is Moyer Redeeming's coming back
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Speaker 10: to the Parliamentary party room. I think the view of
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Speaker 10: the Liberals MPs is that she's done her dash part
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Speaker 10: for in the eels. She's been voting with the ALP
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Speaker 10: and the Legislative Council and that's annoying them a great deal.
20:17
Speaker 2: I mean, I take your point that you know, we've
20:19
Speaker 2: got Christmas in the new year, we'll all be enjoying
20:21
Speaker 2: the sun, having a barbecue, watching the cricket, and you know,
20:24
Speaker 2: come February March next year, this law be forgotten. But
20:27
Speaker 2: of course this won't be forgotten, will it. The Labor
20:31
Speaker 2: government will use it over and over again. And surely
20:34
Speaker 2: people are smarter than just to forget about this. How
20:37
Speaker 2: do you forgive the leader of a party who's invested
20:40
Speaker 2: this much time fighting not just one of his own
20:44
Speaker 2: but a woman in his own party, only to lose
20:47
Speaker 2: so badly in the court. I mean, do you really
20:49
Speaker 2: think Victorians will overlook this.
20:54
Speaker 10: I think Victoria has got a lot more to worry
20:56
Speaker 10: about than what John Persido said about MoU REDEEMI things
21:01
Speaker 10: are going so poorly here that I genuine, and there
21:05
Speaker 10: is such a genuine desire for a change of government
21:09
Speaker 10: among so many people. I think a lot of people
21:12
Speaker 10: will be prepared to look over anything that in order
21:16
Speaker 10: to get rid of the Allen Labor government in a
21:19
Speaker 10: couple of years. So, in normal circumstances, probably yeah, that
21:23
Speaker 10: would that would stick to Pursuito. But these, you know,
21:26
Speaker 10: as anyone who's been following the news about this state
21:29
Speaker 10: would know, are not normal times in Victoria. They are very,
21:33
Speaker 10: very abnormal times, probably the most worrying times to have
21:38
Speaker 10: lived through since the early nineteen nineties and the Caine
21:41
Speaker 10: Kerner disaster. Well, I mean that's I think in go on,
21:47
Speaker 10: sorry you finished, No, no, no, that's right.
21:51
Speaker 2: Care I was going to say, you know, we do
21:53
Speaker 2: have incredibly worrying times in Victoria right now, and then
21:57
Speaker 2: you look at the leadership that's available and it's just
22:00
Speaker 2: absolutely depressing. You cover the defamation case quite extensively, and
22:06
Speaker 2: you wrote today that one consolation Pursuito can take from
22:09
Speaker 2: the findings is that the court did not find that
22:12
Speaker 2: he was a liar. But it does seem that the
22:16
Speaker 2: court found he was pretty stupid. What other things did
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Speaker 2: you take away from the court's findings.
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Speaker 10: Well, I think that basically he didn't have I mean,
22:30
Speaker 10: he could have been wrong and still got away with it,
22:32
Speaker 10: but he had to have to have acted in good faith,
22:37
Speaker 10: he had to have had the right to be wrong
22:42
Speaker 10: comes with obligations, and the judge found that what pursudo
22:48
Speaker 10: said he really had no excuse for that. The information
22:51
Speaker 10: was before him which showed that what he said was wrong.
22:55
Speaker 10: So he didn't really do his homework. It was impetuous,
22:59
Speaker 10: it blew up in his face. And the other thing
23:02
Speaker 10: to understand about it, it was stupid. The Alvare and
23:06
Speaker 10: Omga of why this was stupid was that he never
23:10
Speaker 10: had the votes to expel her from the wider Liberal Party.
23:12
Speaker 10: Most people in the Liberal Party and Victoria think that
23:14
Speaker 10: Muria deemings right on these issues. Throwing her out was
23:19
Speaker 10: never on. She remains a remember of the Liberal Party,
23:23
Speaker 10: just not the parliamentary Liberal Party, and he never had
23:26
Speaker 10: the votes for that. He still doesn't have the votes
23:28
Speaker 10: for that. It's a terrible standoff in his sense, between
23:32
Speaker 10: the people in the parliamentary Liberal Party who think that
23:35
Speaker 10: what they say matters and the wider liberal community who
23:39
Speaker 10: think that the people in Spring Street these days are
23:42
Speaker 10: a bunch of mouth breathing muppets who ought to be replaced.
23:47
Speaker 2: I mean, John Pisudo's biggest problem with more Redeeming was
23:49
Speaker 2: it not that she was standing up for women's rights
23:53
Speaker 2: against the trans movement, and he was a bit embarrassed
23:58
Speaker 2: by that because he himself is progressive.
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Speaker 10: I think, yeah, I think there is I mean, that
24:06
Speaker 10: can be overstated, but I think the real thing is
24:08
Speaker 10: that they just thought he thought, the people around him
24:11
Speaker 10: thought that sooner or later MORI was going to blow up,
24:14
Speaker 10: and he was an opportunity presented itself to get rid
24:18
Speaker 10: of it. But you know, the gang that couldn't shoot straight.
24:21
Speaker 10: As we found out today when the judgment landed, the
24:25
Speaker 10: charges that they laid against Deeming just didn't just didn't stick.
24:32
Speaker 10: That said, I was found it interesting the way that
24:36
Speaker 10: the case was run. I think that there was there
24:39
Speaker 10: was all sorts of things that could have been led
24:42
Speaker 10: that wasn't led. And to this day I haven't really
24:45
Speaker 10: been able to get under an answer as to why
24:47
Speaker 10: that occurred. I don't think he put the best case
24:51
Speaker 10: forward he could have in the court, but the judge
24:54
Speaker 10: could only go on what was what was before him,
24:57
Speaker 10: and it was he found that it just wasn't good enough.
24:59
Speaker 10: So so he's got to pay Moira three hundred thousand dollars,
25:04
Speaker 10: and he's got to pay Sue Chrasantnu, Chrisanthu and her
25:09
Speaker 10: minions and the solicitors, probably another minion. So it's going
25:13
Speaker 10: to be a I have. Do you think it's probably
25:16
Speaker 10: going to be a fairly lean Christmas shape resugo this year?
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Speaker 2: Well, I guess you'll know how the rest of Victoria feels.
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Speaker 2: James Campbell, appreciate your time tonight. Thank you.
25:26
Speaker 1: We'll stick around.
25:27
Speaker 2: Coming up after the break, The Canadian Prime Minister lays
25:30
Speaker 2: the virtue signaling on thick. He's a feminist and the
25:33
Speaker 2: US should have a female president. According to him, our
25:37
Speaker 2: all female panel joins me with their thoughts in a moment,
25:40
Speaker 2: this will be fun.
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Speaker 1: Well, welcome back.
25:45
Speaker 2: Let's get straight into our Thursday night panel. Joining me
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Speaker 2: is Sky News host Caroline Russo and Sky News contributor
25:52
Speaker 2: Evelyn Ray. Welcome ladies, Now you can both breathe a
25:56
Speaker 2: sigh of relief, because now you have an ally in
26:00
Speaker 2: Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. I know you'll be excited
26:03
Speaker 2: about this. The governor of America's fifty first state has
26:06
Speaker 2: proudly declared he is a feminist, and he's angry, as
26:10
Speaker 2: most feminists are. He's angry that the US chose not
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Speaker 2: to elect a female president.
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Speaker 1: Have a listen, now, it.
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Speaker 11: Shouldn't be that way.
26:19
Speaker 1: It wasn't supposed to be that way.
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Speaker 11: We were supposed to be on a steady, if difficult,
26:24
Speaker 11: sometimes march towards progress. And yet just a few weeks ago,
26:30
Speaker 11: the United States voted for a second time to not
26:34
Speaker 11: elect its first woman president. Everywhere, women's rates and women's
26:40
Speaker 11: progress is under attack, overtly and subtlely. But I want
26:45
Speaker 11: you to know that I am and always will be
26:47
Speaker 11: a proud feminist. You will always have an ally in
26:51
Speaker 11: me and in my government.
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Speaker 2: Caroline, you must be thrilled to have an ally in
26:57
Speaker 2: Justin Trudeau.
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Speaker 1: What would I do?
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Speaker 12: How would I ever manage progress in life without that
27:04
Speaker 12: man doing my fighting for me? Thank god he is there.
27:09
Speaker 12: I just find that extraordinary. I just watched that and
27:12
Speaker 12: I actually kind of feel sorry for him because I
27:17
Speaker 12: actually think he might believe it, James, I actually think
27:21
Speaker 12: that he might believe that women all around the world
27:24
Speaker 12: need a paddler like him to do our work for us,
27:28
Speaker 12: which obviously isn't the truth. I Mean, the funniest thing
27:31
Speaker 12: about all of this, James is just this last week now,
27:34
Speaker 12: he's had to schlep down to Mary Lago to go
27:38
Speaker 12: take an ee for Donald Trump, because that's what it
27:41
Speaker 12: wasn't meant to be, Like, this was actually never anything
27:43
Speaker 12: to do with women or women's rights. His side of
27:46
Speaker 12: politics was meant to win so that he wouldn't have
27:49
Speaker 12: to genuflect to anyone on the center, right, So that's
27:54
Speaker 12: actually what he's really upset about.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder if he'd been more comfortable dealing with
27:58
Speaker 2: a woman than dealing with Donald Trump. Evylyn Kamala didn't
28:02
Speaker 2: lose because she's a woman. She lost because she's a Marxist.
28:05
Speaker 2: But if Justin Trudeau is so concerned about getting more
28:08
Speaker 2: women into leadership, I mean he could always step aside
28:11
Speaker 2: for a woman.
28:13
Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 13: Look, that was honestly one of the most painful speeches,
28:15
Speaker 13: and as a woman, I would like to be very
28:18
Speaker 13: far away from him and not have him in my corner.
28:21
Speaker 14: Just throwing that out there.
28:22
Speaker 13: But I'd also like to point out the fact that
28:24
Speaker 13: the Liberal Party of Canada, Trudeau's own party, has actually
28:29
Speaker 13: never in its history elected a woman at its leader.
28:32
Speaker 13: But then again, after that speech, I wouldn't blame any
28:35
Speaker 13: woman for not wanting to be.
28:36
Speaker 14: A part of Trudeau's party. You know, it was just woeful.
28:40
Speaker 13: But once again, these are the guys that like to
28:43
Speaker 13: imagine themselves as champions of democracy.
28:47
Speaker 14: But that is until the mere peasants, you know, do.
28:49
Speaker 13: Something that they don't like, like, oh my goodness, you know,
28:52
Speaker 13: vote in Trump in a democratic vote. But you know
28:54
Speaker 13: that that's when they start, you know, getting nasty and
28:57
Speaker 13: basically saying that, you know, the peasants who voted for
28:59
Speaker 13: him be stupid or misogynistic, they hate women, etc. Etc.
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Speaker 13: You know, the quicker that Trump turns Canada into the
29:08
Speaker 13: fifty first state of America, the better for all Canadians
29:11
Speaker 13: and I think the rest of the world.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's what Trump's threatening to do, and I think
29:14
Speaker 2: that might be behind Trudeau's you know, they should have
29:18
Speaker 2: elected a woman speech. Incoming President Donald Trump has invited
29:23
Speaker 2: Chinese President Jijingping to attend his inauguration next month. Carolina,
29:29
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you, is this a good move
29:32
Speaker 2: by Trump?
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Speaker 12: I think this is a Trump move. I don't think
29:36
Speaker 12: there's any real right answer here. I think this is
29:39
Speaker 12: Pete Trump flex. This is the sort of thing that
29:42
Speaker 12: he would do. Hi, mate, welcome, enjoy the lob start
29:45
Speaker 12: before we hit you with tariffs. So I think that
29:48
Speaker 12: it is probably a bit unorthodox. I mean, I know
29:52
Speaker 12: that for various sorts of state occasions and in inaugurations,
29:55
Speaker 12: various people and world leaders.
29:57
Speaker 14: Get invited to these things. I think it is I
30:01
Speaker 14: think it's just.
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Speaker 12: A nice reminder for Trump, not only as far as
30:06
Speaker 12: she is concerned, but to other world leaders that he's
30:10
Speaker 12: not going to take a backward step then when it
30:13
Speaker 12: comes to you doing what's best for America.
30:17
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of Trump, Time magazine is set to name
30:20
Speaker 2: him as Person of the Year.
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Speaker 13: Now.
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Speaker 1: This will be the second time that they have done this.
30:25
Speaker 2: Previously, they've awarded Person of the Year to everyone from
30:29
Speaker 2: dictators to people like Chancellor Angela Merkle, who was nominated
30:33
Speaker 2: in twenty fifteen. At that time, Trump weighed in saying
30:36
Speaker 2: what they picked a person who's ruining Germany. And when
30:39
Speaker 2: they nominated Kamala Harris as their Person of the Year,
30:42
Speaker 2: Trump said that he was better looking than her. It
30:45
Speaker 2: seems like the title of Times Person.
30:48
Speaker 1: Of the Year does mean something to Donald Trump.
30:51
Speaker 13: Oh, I think Caroline said it perfectly before.
30:53
Speaker 14: It's a Trump thing. You know, he's a master troll,
30:57
Speaker 14: and isn't it just beautiful.
30:59
Speaker 13: I cannot wait for the four years just to see
31:01
Speaker 13: him troll all the people that you know, wanted him.
31:04
Speaker 14: Basically in prison. You know, I actually don't think he takes.
31:07
Speaker 13: It too seriously, and I think it's really hilarious watching
31:10
Speaker 13: him poke fun at the people who do.
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Speaker 14: Take it seriously. You know, he's doing all right though.
31:15
Speaker 13: Because this is actually he's been featured on the cover
31:18
Speaker 13: of Times magazine over thirty five times. I mean that's
31:22
Speaker 13: the fourth most of like any president in history.
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Speaker 6: You know.
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Speaker 14: I think it's safe to say he doesn't really.
31:27
Speaker 13: Care what the media think, all what the establishment think,
31:30
Speaker 13: you know, and at this point in time, they're not
31:31
Speaker 13: really doing him any favors.
31:33
Speaker 14: He's doing them the favors. Because here we are all
31:35
Speaker 14: the way over in the pond in.
31:37
Speaker 13: Australia talking about Time magazine and talking about him. So
31:41
Speaker 13: I think he's probably the best thing to market their magazines,
31:45
Speaker 13: not the other way around.
31:47
Speaker 2: It's a very good point. Trump doesn't need the mainstream media.
31:50
Speaker 1: They need him. But you mentioned trolls. Now, I've got.
31:53
Speaker 2: To show both of you this hilarious clip of Jill Biden,
31:56
Speaker 2: the first Lady, gave a speech overnight hoping to spread
31:59
Speaker 2: a little Christmas cheer and maybe take a little dig at.
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Speaker 1: The vice president. Have a look at this and see
32:04
Speaker 1: if it reminds you of anyone just for a.
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Speaker 15: Moment when you leave here today that you feel, I
32:10
Speaker 15: don't know a little a sense of joy, because I
32:13
Speaker 15: think we all need like this, you know, we all
32:16
Speaker 15: need to feel joy now during this time of the season,
32:20
Speaker 15: during just during this time. So anyway, okay, now i'll start.
32:27
Speaker 14: You're all reading.
32:28
Speaker 2: Into that if only should use the phrase unburdened by
32:32
Speaker 2: what has been, it would have been perfect. We're almost
32:35
Speaker 2: out of time, Caroline, But that was a pretty good troll,
32:38
Speaker 2: don't you think?
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Speaker 12: It was a fabulous troller, Almost as good a troll
32:42
Speaker 12: as her outfit on election Day. Look, we don't know
32:45
Speaker 12: what happened behind those closed doors, but you know, the
32:49
Speaker 12: internals of politics are often much saucier and much spicier
32:53
Speaker 12: than what we see on the outside.
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Speaker 14: So I think that's.
32:56
Speaker 12: A great way to flip the bird as you exit.
32:58
Speaker 2: The building, the Evelyn Ray, Carol and Drusso, thanks for
33:02
Speaker 2: your time, really appreciate it. Well, we're going to go
33:04
Speaker 2: to a break, but stick around because there's been another
33:07
Speaker 2: stunning betrayal of Israel by our Prime Minister, only a
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Speaker 2: day after calling for unity with the Jewish community. Alex
33:14
Speaker 2: Ritchen from the Executive Council of Australian Jury will join
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Speaker 2: me in a moment. Yesterday, Jewish Australians dared to imagine
33:23
Speaker 2: that perhaps the Prime Minister had undergone an epiphany. After
33:27
Speaker 2: two shocking attacks on Australian Jews in less than a week,
33:30
Speaker 2: a somber and emotional Prime Minister stood in Sydney's Holocaust
33:34
Speaker 2: Museum declaring that he stood with the Jewish people in
33:37
Speaker 2: their fight against anti Semitism.
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Speaker 1: We need an end to any Semetism.
33:45
Speaker 4: It is equal.
33:47
Speaker 16: Holocaust survivors came to Australia because we are a tolerant country,
33:52
Speaker 16: were one in which our whole Australian society is enriched
33:57
Speaker 16: by people living side by side of different faith, different ethnicities,
34:02
Speaker 16: different backgrounds, and we need a whole of government, a
34:07
Speaker 16: whole of society as well effort to make sure this
34:12
Speaker 16: is stamped out.
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Speaker 2: But as Epiphanes go, it was rather short lived. Less
34:17
Speaker 2: than twenty four hours later, his government voted at the
34:20
Speaker 2: United Nations for an immediate, unconditional and permanent ceasefire in Gaza.
34:26
Speaker 2: Who says, I support Jews and in the next breath,
34:29
Speaker 2: Jews should stop fighting a terrorist organization committed to their destruction.
34:33
Speaker 2: Oh and there's that small matter of Jewish hostages that's
34:36
Speaker 2: going out to Alex Ritchin, this co CEO of the
34:39
Speaker 2: Executive Council of Australian Jury. Alex, thanks for joining me
34:43
Speaker 2: your response to the government's vote at the United Nations overnight.
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Speaker 6: This is a historic betrayal and it's difficult to anticipate,
34:53
Speaker 6: to have anticipated this sort of thing. You're on the
34:55
Speaker 6: back of so many betrayals before it. It's hard to
34:58
Speaker 6: keep being outraged. This is where we are. This shows
35:01
Speaker 6: the government is completely out of touch and has abandoned
35:04
Speaker 6: its previous position on Israel, a twesdate solution. It has
35:07
Speaker 6: called previously for the release unconditionally the hostages. Now it's
35:11
Speaker 6: calling for the unconditional ceasefire, which would leave the hostages intact.
35:16
Speaker 6: It would leave hum Us and its remnants intact, still
35:19
Speaker 6: able to wage warn rule over the Ghazian people. So
35:22
Speaker 6: the fact that Australia is going down this path and they, frankly,
35:26
Speaker 6: they've warned us, They've told us that they're going to
35:28
Speaker 6: keep moving further and further away from Israel and towards
35:31
Speaker 6: the Palestinine cause. And sadly they don't see the nexus
35:35
Speaker 6: at all between these sorts of policies, this sort of
35:38
Speaker 6: constant demonization of Israel, this constant blaming of Israel for
35:41
Speaker 6: the eels of the Middle East, and the anti semptism
35:44
Speaker 6: we see on our streets. But there is a clear
35:46
Speaker 6: connection because when they vilify Israel this way, it sends
35:49
Speaker 6: a signal to extremist actors in our society that Israel
35:53
Speaker 6: is outside the bounds of toleration of what is accepted
35:58
Speaker 6: in our society, and some will then be moved to
36:00
Speaker 6: commit violent arts as we have seen.
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Speaker 2: The other thing I don't get, Alex is whenever the
36:05
Speaker 2: government are asked why did you vote this way? They
36:08
Speaker 2: trot out this now familiar line. Well, we were one
36:10
Speaker 2: of one hundred and fifty eight nations or whatever that
36:13
Speaker 2: voted this way, as if somehow consensus proves that you're right,
36:17
Speaker 2: And I might point out Iran voted that way, China
36:21
Speaker 2: voted that way, Russia voted that way. Just because everyone's
36:25
Speaker 2: doing it doesn't make it right, and it's not an
36:28
Speaker 2: argument as to what was the motive for your voting
36:33
Speaker 2: that way. How do you square this vote with the
36:37
Speaker 2: Prime Minister's reassurances yesterday that he understood the plight of
36:40
Speaker 2: the Jewish people.
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Speaker 6: Well, clearly the Prime Minister sees no connection between anti
36:46
Speaker 6: Semitism and these sorts of maneuvers at the United Nations.
36:51
Speaker 6: He sees no connection between treating Israel as a rogue,
36:56
Speaker 6: as a villain, lumping it together as the Pimnist did
36:59
Speaker 6: a few days ago with China and Russia, and then
37:02
Speaker 6: seeing people in our society view Israel and the Jewish
37:06
Speaker 6: community which supports Israel as a legitimate target for violence,
37:09
Speaker 6: and the sorts of things we've seen in our cities
37:12
Speaker 6: over the last few weeks, and it's a form of
37:14
Speaker 6: blindness to actually not see that, to not see the
37:17
Speaker 6: responsibility the government has to have moderate, sensible policies to
37:22
Speaker 6: have a mind to domestic social cohesion. There's also an
37:27
Speaker 6: arrogance to it in my view, because they think they
37:29
Speaker 6: can have this great role in the Middle East peace building,
37:32
Speaker 6: when in fact the impact of Australia on these affairs
37:34
Speaker 6: is minimal, but the impact domestically is felt by all communities.
37:38
Speaker 6: So I wish they would be more considerate of what's
37:41
Speaker 6: happening now our own society and be mindful that what
37:44
Speaker 6: they say and do in international forums, the way that
37:47
Speaker 6: they constantly demonize and move away from Israel and treat
37:50
Speaker 6: it as a prior, that it has an impact on
37:52
Speaker 6: the Australian Jewish community. But to your earlier point, James,
37:55
Speaker 6: the government, you're right. Every time they vote this way
37:58
Speaker 6: they say, well, we're one of a hundred odd nations,
38:00
Speaker 6: and the Kiwi's voted this way as well. I mean,
38:03
Speaker 6: that's a very poor justification. It shows they kind of
38:05
Speaker 6: actually justified on the merits of the thing itself. Now
38:08
Speaker 6: have to say we went along with the crowd. And
38:10
Speaker 6: something that you learn within the schoolyard is that going
38:13
Speaker 6: along with the majority doesn't make it right. Sometimes it
38:16
Speaker 6: takes integrity and character to stand aside from that, stand
38:19
Speaker 6: apart from that, rather than just going along to get along.
38:22
Speaker 6: We expect better at our government.
38:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, we absolutely do.
38:26
Speaker 2: Andrew Bolt said last night on this program that you know,
38:30
Speaker 2: anti Albeneze's message of unity is being undone by his
38:34
Speaker 2: ministers spreading anti Israel messages. Tony Burke ed Husick, for example,
38:38
Speaker 2: who keeps saying is Lamophobia is just as problematic right
38:42
Speaker 2: now as anti Semitism. Is it time for Anthony Albanezi
38:46
Speaker 2: to pull his ministers into line, because it's not just
38:49
Speaker 2: his voice that is influencing the domestic debate here. He's
38:53
Speaker 2: got all of these other ministers out there freelancing.
38:57
Speaker 6: That's right. And you know, as you say, the words
39:01
Speaker 6: of ministers and senior leaders not merely the prime minister account.
39:05
Speaker 6: And we've spoken about the lamentable words of the foremasts.
39:07
Speaker 6: In the last few days, we saw, during the height
39:10
Speaker 6: of the encampments, the education mister Jason Clair effectively defending
39:15
Speaker 6: the violent chance of interfida River to the Sea, which
39:18
Speaker 6: everybody knows annihilationist calls for the destruction of Israel and
39:22
Speaker 6: it's Jews. But at the time Jason Clare said it
39:24
Speaker 6: can mean different things of different people. The fact that
39:26
Speaker 6: he was willing to give benefit of doubt to people
39:29
Speaker 6: who deserve none, I think said it all. And we've
39:32
Speaker 6: seen Tony Burke say and admit certain things over the
39:37
Speaker 6: last fourteen months. You know the fact that on the
39:39
Speaker 6: streets of He's electorate in the immediate aftermath of October seven,
39:42
Speaker 6: you had people expressing joy about what happened in October seven,
39:47
Speaker 6: celebrating Hamas's vicious crimes. That really set the tone. It
39:52
Speaker 6: then went from there to the opera house steps, and
39:54
Speaker 6: we know what's transpired in the intervening period. So there's
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Speaker 6: got to be a discipline by the government. And when
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Speaker 6: we put out a call in the mediate aftermath of
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Speaker 6: the dust fire for the government to review its ratric,
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Speaker 6: we weren't just asking for the Primess to do so.
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Speaker 6: We were asking for the entirety of government to really
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Speaker 6: give careful forward to their policies and also to their words.
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Speaker 2: We haven't heard much from the anti Semitism envoy who
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Speaker 2: was appointed by Anthony Albanesey, Gillian Siegel, but today she's
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Speaker 2: come out and said she wants the weekly pro Palestinian
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Speaker 2: rallies moved from the Sydney CBD. She's called them in
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Speaker 2: timidatory and harassing, but is it enough just to move
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Speaker 2: them out of the city.
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Speaker 6: Well, the Envoy got to work pretty speedily grappling with
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Speaker 6: the university situation, and I know that she met with
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Speaker 6: dozens upon dozens of students and staff and academics who
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Speaker 6: had faced horrific situations in tolerable situations on university campuses
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Speaker 6: throughout the country. And stemming from that, Miss Siegel recommended
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Speaker 6: a judicial inquiry into anti Semitism on Australian campuses and
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Speaker 6: the government probably shut that down and kick them atter
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Speaker 6: to another committee. So she's been out there saying the
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Speaker 6: right things and working hard for the community and to
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Speaker 6: solve this anti smptism crisis. But the government clearly hasn't
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Speaker 6: always been listening. In terms of the protests, our position
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Speaker 6: has never been that there should be a blanket ban
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Speaker 6: on protests. We believe that protests are fundamental right and
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Speaker 6: a free society that needs to be preserved. But that
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Speaker 6: right is not absolute and it's not unlimited, and it
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Speaker 6: can't be allowed to trample on the rights of others.
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Speaker 6: And when you have a situation where people are fearful
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Speaker 6: of traveling into their own city centers because of these protests.
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Speaker 6: Where you have a situation where at these protests you
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Speaker 6: have racist slogans, you have clear incitement to violence, you
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Speaker 6: have the portraits of terrost leaders held aloft, which then
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Speaker 6: inspires the sorts of violent acts that we're seeing, and
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Speaker 6: nothing is done about it. The police either lack the
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Speaker 6: will or the resources to grapple with this. Something has
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Speaker 6: to be done. Permits have to be withdrawn or made conditional.
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Speaker 6: If a permit is given and these sorts of things
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Speaker 6: transpire to protestation, should not receive another permit. So clearly
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Speaker 6: things have to change. And obviously the practice of protesting
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Speaker 6: outside schools and synagogues. I think there's a very direct
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Speaker 6: connection between what happened about a week ago at the
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Speaker 6: Great Synagogue, of the protest outside there, outside that place
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Speaker 6: of worship, and the burning of another synagogue, because that
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Speaker 6: act signified to extremists that synagogue's are fair game and
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Speaker 6: are legitimate targets for those who have whatever political grievances
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Speaker 6: they may have. So we're not against protests in any situation,
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Speaker 6: but if they can't be properly policed. If the law
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Speaker 6: can't be enforced, that people can't be brought to justice,
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Speaker 6: the whole thing needs to be closely considered.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, very well, said Alex Ritchin. I appreciate your time tonight,
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
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Speaker 6: James.
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Speaker 2: Well, coming up after the break, the Muslim Council of
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Speaker 2: Britain has labeled our good friend in London, Patrick Christie's
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Speaker 2: and islamophobe. Or get his response to that after the break,
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Speaker 2: welcome back, Well. Anti Semitism is not only a problem
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Speaker 2: here in Australia, it's a problem right around the world,
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Speaker 2: including in the UK, where gb News has faithfully reported it.
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Speaker 2: But now the Muslim Council of Britain has published a
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Speaker 2: report accusing gb News of being quote the anti Muslim
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Speaker 2: hate channel, and my next guest was singled out as
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Speaker 2: being particularly islamophobic GBN News as Patrick Christie's joins me. Now, Patrick,
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Speaker 2: appreciate your time. You've been accused of rarely featuring Muslim perspectives,
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Speaker 2: failing to challenge Islamic phobic remarks, and portraying Muslims as
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Speaker 2: a trojan horse trying to undermine British values.
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Speaker 1: What's your response to that?
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Speaker 6: Well, this is a sinister.
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Speaker 17: It's habit to put a target on my back and
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Speaker 17: try to get myself under others taken off their Initially,
43:49
Speaker 17: this report was put out by a group called the
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Speaker 17: Center for Media Monitoring, which sounds really official, but then
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Speaker 17: you look at it and it's actually a partner of
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Speaker 17: the Muslim Council of Britain. Just on a couple of
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Speaker 17: things there that Trojan Hall comment. What I was referring
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Speaker 17: to was Iranian terrorist sleeper cells, and that was based
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Speaker 17: on a report by m I five, our intelligence service.
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Speaker 17: Now if they happen to be Muslim, then that may
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Speaker 17: well be the case, but that was not my point.
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Speaker 17: My point was about terrorist foreign actors living and working
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Speaker 17: in Britain, the same as I would say about China
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Speaker 17: or Russia, for example. And let's say about the excessive
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Speaker 17: use of the word Islam in topics when I'm actually
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Speaker 17: talking about radical Islam, talking about people on terror watch lists,
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Speaker 17: and talking about things like anti Semitism. I'm talking about
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Speaker 17: things like armed police at Christmas markets now, which never
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Speaker 17: used to be normal in Britain, but unfortunately now are.
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Speaker 17: I'm also talking about a teacher being forced into hiding
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Speaker 17: because he showed a picture of the prophet Muhammad to
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Speaker 17: some children, grooming gangs, blasphemy laws. We've got an MP
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Speaker 17: that wants to been issues blasphemals. Look, you know, these
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Speaker 17: are issues that our viewers care about, which is why
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Speaker 17: now frankly, we are beating the other news channels, some
44:54
Speaker 17: of them anyway in the viewing figures that I make
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Speaker 17: no excuses for this. You know, I am a host
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Speaker 17: on gb US. Great Britain means a great deal to me.
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Speaker 17: Great British culture means a great deal to me. And
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Speaker 17: I'm not going to be silenced into not talking about
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Speaker 17: these kind of issues.
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Speaker 2: Well, I've got a theory, Patrick and I reckon. What
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Speaker 2: they want is for you to be silenced so you
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Speaker 2: won't speak about things like I don't know. A British
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Speaker 2: Muslim MP arguing just the other day that it's important
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Speaker 2: that people be allowed to marry their first cousins have
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Speaker 2: listened to this.
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Speaker 4: The reason the practice is so common is that ordinary
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Speaker 4: people see family intermarriage overall as something that is very positive,
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Speaker 4: something that helps build family bonds and helps put families
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Speaker 4: on a more secure financial foothold.
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Speaker 1: Are we allowed to speak about this or is that islamophobic? Yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 17: Look, we've got massive issues within breeding a first cousin
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Speaker 17: marriage within elements of the British Muslim community. Some figures
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Speaker 17: released by out of a community in a place called
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Speaker 17: Bradford that as many as sixty percent of marriages would
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Speaker 17: to first cousins and the knock on effect of this
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Speaker 17: is huge. Right, so the taxpayer has to pick up
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Speaker 17: the bill for all the health care for these children.
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Speaker 17: There's a London borough where one in five child deaths
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Speaker 17: were caused by parents being related. Baby deaths in Birmingham
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Speaker 17: were nearly twice the national average. Cousin marriage was again
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Speaker 17: blamed there. So step forward this pro gaza independent MP Baumuhammad,
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Speaker 17: who said that it shouldn't be illegally. Instead, he wants
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Speaker 17: the British taxpayer to pay more money to make it
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Speaker 17: less dangerous for people who have a culture of first
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Speaker 17: cousin marriage to reproduce. I mean, look, hey, call me
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Speaker 17: a radical here, and indeed some people have, but call
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Speaker 17: me a radical here. I don't think the British taxpayer
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Speaker 17: should be paying so that people can have sex with
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Speaker 17: their first cousin.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that doesn't sound too radical to me. Patrick.
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Speaker 2: Before we go on to ask you about the farmer's
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Speaker 2: protest in London yesterday, hundreds of tractors blocking the streets
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Speaker 2: of central London protesting the government's introduction of an inheritance
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Speaker 2: tax on farms. Now farmers are warning the text threatens
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Speaker 2: UK food security and some are saying elderly farm owners
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Speaker 2: may even take their own lives to avoid paying the
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Speaker 2: inheritance text on their estates.
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Speaker 1: Just fill us in with what's happening there.
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Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean, you don't buite the hand that fees you.
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Speaker 17: The problem is that we are now run by a
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Speaker 17: load of metropolitan city dwelling lefty lovees, okay, and they
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Speaker 17: just don't understand the intricacies of the British countryside and
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Speaker 17: rural communities. It's also not helped by having a chancellor
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Speaker 17: who are allegedly led on a CV. This is bad
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Speaker 17: economics and it's bad for Britain. Paying more inheritance tax
47:38
Speaker 17: means that they'll have to sell up.
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Speaker 6: Now.
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Speaker 17: The government wants to do this to raise about five
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Speaker 17: hundred million pounds.
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Speaker 6: The problem for them is that.
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Speaker 17: They're giving away more than five hundred million pounds in
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Speaker 17: foreign aid to foreign farmers. At the same time, we
47:51
Speaker 17: could see strikes here we could see them blockading supermarkets,
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Speaker 17: blockading pause. I think the problem for the British government
47:57
Speaker 17: is that the British public are more inclined to back
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Speaker 17: our farmers than they are this current labor government who
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Speaker 17: are already tanking in the polls and I'm I'm not
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Speaker 17: suicide issue very quickly. Unfortunately, it appears that one farmer
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Speaker 17: has already taken his own life as a result of this,
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Speaker 17: and that is the strength of feeling out there.
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Speaker 2: It's just another thing this government is doing to make
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Speaker 2: itself very, very unpopular in record time. Patrick Christie's really
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Speaker 2: appreciate your time tonight.
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Speaker 1: Thank you.
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Speaker 2: Well that's all we've got time for this evening, but
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Speaker 2: don't go anywhere. Coming up right now is Sherry markson
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Speaker 2: good note,