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Geoff Schwartz reacts to Indiana FB's first National Championship, Can they continue this success (?), SEC supremacy over (?) + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: This is the Sean O'Connell Show.
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  Speaker 2: of ESPN seven hundred ninety one am.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Sean O'Connell Show.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome in Jeff Schwartz, former Oregon Duck, longtime NFL veteran
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  Speaker 2: college football and NFL expert, Jeff Schwartz.
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  Speaker 3: Hello, can we now admit that Michael Irvin thing was?
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  Speaker 3: It was a little creepy? Like, are we allowed to
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  Speaker 3: be done with? Are we aowed to admit that now
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  Speaker 3: that the game the game's over last night?
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  Speaker 1: What creepy thing?
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  Speaker 3: Like? It's just the Michael Ivan Miami thing, Like why
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  Speaker 3: is he on the sidelines pep talking the guys during
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  Speaker 3: the game, but he's not You're not coach, buddy, Like
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  Speaker 3: what do we the belt? The belt to the belt,
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  Speaker 3: taking the belt off and beating the opponent's shirt after
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  Speaker 3: the game.
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  Speaker 1: It's I've never met Michael Irvin.
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  Speaker 2: He seems like an absolute wild card to me, of
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  Speaker 2: the highest order, Like he would be the most unpredictable
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  Speaker 2: person you could be around.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think I messed that personality.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's probably a safe bed. Knowing what I
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  Speaker 2: know about you, I think that you might have a
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  Speaker 2: hard time.
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  Speaker 3: The funny part is my wife and Michael Irvan would
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  Speaker 3: probably be best friends.
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  Speaker 2: Opposites attract, and that's why you ended up with the, uh,
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  Speaker 2: the female version of that as your wife.
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  Speaker 3: The other day, she just decided like, we're just we're
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  Speaker 3: just getting rid of all the rugs in the house.
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  Speaker 1: We can you're just getting rid of about your rugs.
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  Speaker 3: She just like like, move all the furniture, took them
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  Speaker 3: all out.
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  Speaker 1: She's anti rug now, or.
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  Speaker 3: She's just wanted to order new ones.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, got it, got it.
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  Speaker 3: It's just it's just an insane person.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I know what that's like.
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  Speaker 3: Different, but we all we marry the same person.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, incredible. Uh all right, so they did it.
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  Speaker 2: Indiana caps off one of the most impressive seasons in
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  Speaker 2: the history of college football. Is it the most Is
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  Speaker 2: it better than the Joe Burrow LSU team?
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  Speaker 3: No, they're not the best team to wine ever championship.
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  Speaker 3: It's the most probable championship in the history of the sport.
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  Speaker 3: Though those are two different things obviously, Yeah, and they're
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  Speaker 3: not the same thing. They're not better than the nine
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  Speaker 3: twenty nineteen LSU team. I mean, I think that it's
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  Speaker 3: fair to say they're one of the best teams. Ever.
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  Speaker 3: What they did is the most improbable thing we might
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  Speaker 3: ever see in the history of the sport. I don't
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  Speaker 3: think there's another Indiana. It's even hard to put into
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  Speaker 3: words what this was. I mean, it's just so impressed.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, we have had a formula to win
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  Speaker 3: in this sport for one hundred years. It's you have
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  Speaker 3: more pro players than I do, right, that's what wins
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  Speaker 3: in the end. And yeah, it doesn't Netty said it yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: They don't have a bunch of pro guys. It's not
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  Speaker 3: supposed to happen this way, and it did in a
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  Speaker 3: resounding way. They didn't they didn't trail the entire college
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  Speaker 3: football playoffs. It's it's remarkable what they did, and they
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  Speaker 3: won every big moment, although it was interesting, like you know,
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  Speaker 3: near the end of that game, they did sort of
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  Speaker 3: start to have some of those faltering moments right the offense,
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  Speaker 3: Livenman jumped off sides on second and one that would
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  Speaker 3: have won them the game, and of course that shields
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  Speaker 3: may Crystoball from the mistake he made. Should jumped off
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  Speaker 3: sides himself and gotten the first down, they would have
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  Speaker 3: extended the game a little bit longer. He didn't do that,
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  Speaker 3: but the false start obviously helped. And I mean there
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  Speaker 3: were a little bit of cracks and the perfectness of Indiana.
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  Speaker 3: They dropped one pass in this game. Other than that,
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  Speaker 3: they won every high leverage situation there was, you know,
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  Speaker 3: postgame win expectancy. I like to use it just a tool,
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  Speaker 3: right to look at it had Indiana fourteen percent. Wow,
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  Speaker 3: probably too honestly, probably a little too low. But the
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  Speaker 3: fact is, like Miami success rate was better Indiana. Miami's
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  Speaker 3: offense second half was great. It just that they bought
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  Speaker 3: the punt they missed Indiana did Mina missed the field goal.
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  Speaker 3: Like these little moments that Indiana, Indiana won fourth down,
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  Speaker 3: those little moments make the difference. And that's that's what
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  Speaker 3: different in this game was.
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  Speaker 2: So you already pointed out Astuteley that the formula has
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  Speaker 2: been like we have more talent than you had, more
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  Speaker 2: pro guys than you, We're gonna win. If Indiana is
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  Speaker 2: not the case this year, do they need to be
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  Speaker 2: moving forward or is like Kurt Signetti enough of a
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  Speaker 2: trump card. Is this group of guys that had so
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  Speaker 2: much experience and a lot was made about their age
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  Speaker 2: and how many of them, even in a transfer portal era,
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  Speaker 2: have played for Kurt Signetti or played together for a
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  Speaker 2: long time. Is is Indiana gonna be able to do
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  Speaker 2: it moving forward differently than teams have for years? Or
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  Speaker 2: by winning a national championship? Do they now put themselves
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  Speaker 2: in that same category as Ohio State and Michigan, in
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  Speaker 2: Miamimi and Oklahoma and whoever else so that they can
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  Speaker 2: get those four and five star guys that they didn't
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  Speaker 2: need to win this one, but now they can get them.
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  Speaker 3: I think this level of success they had this year
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  Speaker 3: is pretty tough to do it again in this way.
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  Speaker 3: So a couple, a couple of more a couple of
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  Speaker 3: things I think all play a role in this. First
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  Speaker 3: is that Signetti has worked with these coordinators for like
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  Speaker 3: fifteen years at least. It's OC right, They've been together
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  Speaker 3: for many many years, so there's a comfort level of
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  Speaker 3: knowledge and system and what they do there that might
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  Speaker 3: be different. You know when those I would imagine they're
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  Speaker 3: OC will be the head coach job next season, right
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  Speaker 3: or in two years from now. Okay, So that's one thing, right,
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  Speaker 3: His staff has been together for a long time. Hard
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  Speaker 3: to do in college football, right because most of the
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  Speaker 3: times your coordinators leave. But as he's moved up in
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  Speaker 3: ranks the corners, I've stayed with him. So it's really awesome.
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  Speaker 3: Two is that the JMU thing. So, look, the guys
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  Speaker 3: he brought with him from JMU are all superstars that
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  Speaker 3: you probably don't hit a home run rate in the
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  Speaker 3: portal like that, moving forward from a from a power
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  Speaker 3: to me a group of five school right like that
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  Speaker 3: just Signetty just knew the guys he had on the roster.
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  Speaker 3: Now you could argue, of course, that you're bringing you're
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  Speaker 3: bringing more talented players on the whole with and I
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  Speaker 3: agree with that obviously, right, But the fact is, like
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  Speaker 3: these jam you guys. He just hit it right. He
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  Speaker 3: gets the perfect quarterback. He gets a season where they
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  Speaker 3: lost one fumble in the first quarter of the game,
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  Speaker 3: a game one, I should say, and didn't lose to
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  Speaker 3: fumble the rest of the season.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, those old Dominions the only team that recovered a
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  Speaker 2: fumble against Indiana in a whole year.
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  Speaker 3: So I think all these things sort of like came
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  Speaker 3: together at once, and I don't think they can do
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  Speaker 3: it again. I don't. I don't know they can do
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  Speaker 3: it again in a different of course they can. You know,
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  Speaker 3: Mendoza yesterday, how many perfect backchelor phase did he throw shots?
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  Speaker 3: Is Josh Houver their new is he doing the same?
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  Speaker 3: Is he? Is it gonna be exactly the same? He's
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  Speaker 3: gonna throw perfect passes every single time? Like you know
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  Speaker 3: what I mean? Like like those are questions that I
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  Speaker 3: just naturally have. They got really everything to go their
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  Speaker 3: way this year. There's nothing rounder that they earned it.
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  Speaker 3: They earned they earned the luck that they got. But
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  Speaker 3: every four down they needed this year they got it right.
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  Speaker 3: Every stop they needed, they got it. And so that's
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  Speaker 3: why I think it's it's tough to sustain. This's why
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  Speaker 3: I give you know, Georgia and Alabama and Clemson, all
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  Speaker 3: these teams have won multiple championships Like there, it's just
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  Speaker 3: really really hard to do this again. That's why the
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  Speaker 3: blue chip ratios is so important, I think, because it
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  Speaker 3: is repeatable if you have the really good players to
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  Speaker 3: do that, and I think Indiana is getting those players
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  Speaker 3: now right, and then your margin err is a little
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  Speaker 3: bit a little bit less because you have just better
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  Speaker 3: players in general, So don't I don't think this is repeatable.
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  Speaker 3: They can certainly win again with better football players, but
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  Speaker 3: the caliber players they have now, I don't think they
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  Speaker 3: can do this again without you know enough, pro.
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  Speaker 2: Guys, is the Big Ten now the best conference in
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  Speaker 2: college football? Can we stop with the the SEC conversation
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  Speaker 2: of well, it just means more three in a row
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  Speaker 2: for the Big Ten. You look at the top the
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  Speaker 2: end of the season rankings, the top teams are Big
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  Speaker 2: Ten teams. The money seems to be equal, just as impressive,
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  Speaker 2: the talent distribution, all those things. As the SEC lost
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  Speaker 2: its its tight grip on supremacy and college football.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, can I tell you my theory? Why? And SEC
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  Speaker 3: fans so some of my left don't like my theory,
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  Speaker 3: but I think my theory is pretty good. So the
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  Speaker 3: Big Ten is a conference that has tended to pride
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  Speaker 3: itself on doing things the right way right, And of
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  Speaker 3: course there's been scandals, but you know that's it's like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, they do things the right way right. We
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  Speaker 3: do it with honor and integerty and all those things right,
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  Speaker 3: all those catchphrases, and I think they truly do believe that, right,
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  Speaker 3: they really believe that. And while I'm sure that some
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  Speaker 3: players were getting paid, I think a lot of the
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  Speaker 3: Big ten schools before nil were just abstaining from that.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't allowed, right, wasn't I'm not gonna get caught
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  Speaker 3: a recruiting scandal. Just wasn't allowed. And they've always had
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  Speaker 3: money in the boosters, but they've been unwilling to spend
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  Speaker 3: the money because it wasn't allowed. As soon as it
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  Speaker 3: became legal, guess who showed up, all the rich boosters
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  Speaker 3: and all these schools, and Indiana has the most alumni
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  Speaker 3: in the country. And then if you look at the
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  Speaker 3: top other schools, that's Michigan, Ohio State Pens. It's all
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  Speaker 3: these Midwestern schools. They've got a ton of money. And
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  Speaker 3: I think this is a big reason they. I think
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  Speaker 3: that when it became legal, the boosters of the Big
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  Speaker 3: Ten decided, I want to hop in down. Look for
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  Speaker 3: a lot of these guys, it's just fun money, right,
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  Speaker 3: like Mark Cuban spending five million dollars even I want
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  Speaker 3: a championship, of course, but no, he doesn't notice that
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  Speaker 3: money's gone, you know. So it's but I think that
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  Speaker 3: until it became legal. Boosters in the Big Ten didn't
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  Speaker 3: rush to do this, where the SEC very famously they
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  Speaker 3: have paid a lot of players over the years. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I think that's I think that's a big thing now
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  Speaker 3: where because it's legal, you're just getting a lot of
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  Speaker 3: even just you know, imagine, you know, India has eight
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  Speaker 3: hundred thousand living alumni. Now of course not everyone's but
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  Speaker 3: imagine my daughter's so sorry. Imagine like we're dog friendly.
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  Speaker 3: Imagine like you know, I don't know a fraction of
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  Speaker 3: those people donating twenty dollars a piece, you know, like
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  Speaker 3: you just got a bigger group of people to donate
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  Speaker 3: money now, and now that they won, the money feels
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  Speaker 3: like it's it's worth donating right now that they won,
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  Speaker 3: maybe other schools are I we got to spend a
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  Speaker 3: little bit more to catch up. So I'm the Big
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  Speaker 3: Ten with nil with the portal, with winning the last
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  Speaker 3: week championships, they've absolutely positioned themselves as the best in
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  Speaker 3: the sport.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know what would happen for a place like
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  Speaker 2: India and you and I were doing radio. I did
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  Speaker 2: know what would happen for BYU once it was allowed
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  Speaker 2: that a team like BYU would have boosters that wanted
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  Speaker 2: to pay for it, and and now Indiana and maybe
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, Wisconsin, Purdue, whoever else gets on board
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  Speaker 2: with this. It certainly can change the landscape of college football,
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  Speaker 2: and I think it has in terms of the Big
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  Speaker 2: Ten elevating itself above the SEC.
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  Speaker 1: And the SEC is real mad about it right now.
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  Speaker 3: Which oh I love it so much, so angry.
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  Speaker 2: And like even Nick Saban, it's just like that wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: Why would anyone ever want to leave the South only
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  Speaker 2: to get paid?
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  Speaker 1: It's like, dude, you paid players?
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  Speaker 3: Did The Saban thing is weird? Did him and Signetty
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  Speaker 3: have a falling out? Like, what's the what's the thing here?
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  Speaker 3: Because he seems like he seems to not like him
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  Speaker 3: very much.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think I think what what happened is that
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  Speaker 2: Kurt Signetti left his staff to take a job that
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  Speaker 2: was inferior to the job he had on Saban's staff,
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  Speaker 2: and Saban knew that, but he wants wanted to be
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  Speaker 2: in charge. He took some podunk crap like nai a.
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  Speaker 3: Job, Yeah, I up, you right what it was?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that I think that's was insulting
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  Speaker 2: to Nick Saban because He's like, what, you don't have
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  Speaker 2: to do this. You can stay on staff with me
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  Speaker 2: and then your next you know, stay long enough, your
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  Speaker 2: next job will be Georgia. Your next job will be
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  Speaker 2: at least like a place maybe Virginia. And I think
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  Speaker 2: that Kurtzignetty was just like, no, I've learned what I
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  Speaker 2: need to learn.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gone.
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  Speaker 2: I think he left earlier than Nick Saban thought he
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  Speaker 2: was ready to leave. And you know, he's not a
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  Speaker 2: guy who's used to being defied, which is probably enough
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  Speaker 2: to add a little tension to that relationship.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good point. I just think it's odd
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  Speaker 3: he doesn't he picked Miami last night. I just thought
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  Speaker 3: that he just seemed to not like him. I just
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  Speaker 3: find it so odd, and maybe that's the reason why
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  Speaker 3: there's a little bit of tension that he left. So uh,
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  Speaker 3: very very fascinating.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, super interesting stuff. What happens to Miami now?
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  Speaker 3: Well, the guy to find a way to get the
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  Speaker 3: it's a kid, right, I mean they're they're suing. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: Duke is now suing, so they don't.
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  Speaker 2: It was just announced Duke is suing Darien Mensa to
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  Speaker 2: try to keep him from entering the transfer portal.
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  Speaker 3: I think both of those pass rushers are gone, right,
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  Speaker 3: Bine and Messidor, Yes, so you gotta find new ones
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  Speaker 3: because they they they were who they're bad men last night. Man,
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  Speaker 3: they were who they're making life really tough at Mendoza.
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  Speaker 3: Mensa is better than than Beck, so that would be
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  Speaker 3: that that would be improvement for them there. But I
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  Speaker 3: mean it's about just finding the next replacement for guys.
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  Speaker 3: It's hard. Mario Crystal, I think said this yesterday. Everyone says, yo,
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  Speaker 3: you just get back, and he said, no, no, it's
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  Speaker 3: hard to just get back. There's no guarantee that we'll
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  Speaker 3: be back next year. But they play in a conference
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  Speaker 3: that sort of allows them, I think, to an opportunity
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  Speaker 3: to get some you know, an easier path to get there.
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  Speaker 3: They have to go and do.
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  Speaker 1: It all right.
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  Speaker 2: Switching gears with Jeff Schwartz. Here to the NFL playoffs
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  Speaker 2: coming up this weekend. Let's let's the Broncos are the
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  Speaker 2: de facto home team here for Salt Lake City, and
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  Speaker 2: everyone's really pumped. There's a lot of uts on that roster.
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  Speaker 2: I know, you like Bo Nicks and somehow he broke
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  Speaker 2: his ankle kneeling the.
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  Speaker 3: Ball well before that, but sure, yeah, it sucks.
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  Speaker 2: That's terrible. So now they've got to try to do
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  Speaker 2: it with Jared Stidham. Is it really close to possible?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it's against the new old team. Absolutely, yes, I
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  Speaker 3: think it is. I'm gonna actually pick Denver to win
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  Speaker 3: by the end of the of the week. I look.
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  Speaker 3: So a couple of things I think play a role here.
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  Speaker 3: Sean Payne has had actually a lot of successive backup
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  Speaker 3: quarterbacks in New Orleans. Remember Teddy Bridgewater won a lot
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  Speaker 3: of games for him. Now jam is not Teddy Bridgewater,
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  Speaker 3: so it's not you know, that's not really apples to apples.
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  Speaker 3: But we know that he can design a game plan
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  Speaker 3: that works, Like we know he's good off its ordinator,
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  Speaker 3: Like we know that, right, So that's a positive right there.
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  Speaker 3: If Dobbins comes back, you got to feel much much
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  Speaker 3: better about their chances. Now he's gonna come back healthy
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  Speaker 3: because I think they they're the The weekness of the
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  Speaker 3: offense is they're running backs, not the run game. They
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  Speaker 3: have good offensive linemen, they just don't have good running backs.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, Harvey's young and small, and so is McLoughlin.
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  Speaker 3: He fumbled that ball early that game, like, there's there's
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  Speaker 3: room for improvement at running back, but Dobbinson's back, you
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  Speaker 3: feel great about it. And then defensively you have a
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  Speaker 3: good defense. And and look, Drake may Is is it's
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  Speaker 3: his first road playoff game. Sean It's it's like it's
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  Speaker 3: it's a big deal on the road. Their offense has
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  Speaker 3: not been very crisp so far in the in the postseason,
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, they can absolutely win this game.
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  Speaker 1: Who else is gonna win? Uh? I?
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  Speaker 3: Well, so the Rams. It's one of those things where
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  Speaker 3: if they play their best game, they're gonna win. But
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  Speaker 3: they haven't played their best game and maybe all season
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  Speaker 3: they they they they have the opportunity if if they
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  Speaker 3: play their best game, they will they beat Seattle's best,
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  Speaker 3: but they just often this year haven't done that. So
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  Speaker 3: I I think Seattle was until I was on there.
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  Speaker 3: I've been on a mans like for a long time.
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  Speaker 3: This this year, I just I gotta I gotta see
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  Speaker 3: them play their best game. Man, they haven't done it yet.
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  Speaker 2: Sam Donald is going to be in the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: What will it say about the NFL? What we'll say
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  Speaker 2: about all the teams that Sam Donald played for in
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  Speaker 2: the past.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: If he can win a super Bowl in Seattle.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, I I think, like same as Indiana, that
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: there's just no long lasting takeaway other than this was
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: his year to do it. Like what what what's the takeaway?
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know if there is one, Like I I
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: we we saw Sam Donald's first real game here in
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Salt Lake City when he was a freshman at USC,
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: and he was amazing. USC ended up losing that game,
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: but not it wasn't his fault as a true freshman.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: He's an excellent player.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: But you know, then you see this happen where guys
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: transition to the NFL and it just doesn't fit, doesn't work,
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: doesn't fit, doesn't work. And now twice Seattle has been
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: the place where guys have a career resurgence and Sam
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: Donald is taking it even further than Geno Smithton.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just don't. I just I don't think there's
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: any long last Like Minnesota wasn't winning a championship with
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: Sam Donald. They tried last year. He failed twice in
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: those games. So I just I don't think that it
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: will change fundamentally, Like how teams pick up quarterbacks. I
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: think that obviously they might regret getting rid of them,
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: the Vikings. Well, but no, I mean, no one's gonna. Oh,
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: let me get Malik Willis. I mean, who's the next
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: I don't know if there is one. There's to me,
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: there's no next Sam Donald. So it's like there's no
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: next Indiana. There's just no next Indiana. There's just not
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: gonna happen. Now, maybe someone wins out of nowhere, that's
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: certainly fair to say, but there's just no next Indiana.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: It's just not gonna happen. All right.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: I know you're up against it here. We gotta let
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: you go in just a second.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: But is Robert Sala a good hire for the Tennessee Titans.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: I think he's I don't know. I think that's fine.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: I love him as a defensive coordinator.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: James made the point earlier that we didn't really like
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: the Jets are a crap organization, so I don't know
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: if anyone's gonna succeed there, But correct, I don't think
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: he showed us anything in New York where it's like, yeah,
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: somebody else will be great with him.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: Well, look you give him. Cam Ward was talking about
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: Brian Dabell being as oc. He run the defense like
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: it it's not the worst idea. I think it's fair
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: to say that the Jets don't get anyone opportunity to win,
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: so we give him a chance elsewhere.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Jeff Halfley, do you have any thoughts on him?
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: And then felt a great higher But I mean, it's
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: the opposite of Michael McDaniel. Right, You've got a defensive
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: minded coach. So that that's I believe is what happens you.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: The opposite of of of.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: The coach you just had is John Harbaugh. Now that
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: it's official, is he gonna win big in New York?
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: I gotta see it was O c s first. I
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: think that's gonna be Todd monk It. I like that
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: a lot. I think what Harbad does is he gives
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: them a level of stability that position they haven't had
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: it just years and years and years. They're one of
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: the worst franchises in the the last five years, and
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: he gives them stability where you know at the baseline
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: you're gonna have a team that is well prepared. Well,
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: there was you know, there was reports that, uh, you know,
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: the Giants are just but so far behind analytically, and
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: that Harbaugh when he got there, part of the hold up,
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: and why he wasn't signed was that that they hit
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: like they get revamped, the analytics apartment, all this stuff
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: with the Giants are just not quite the same as
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: other organizations. They're sort of slow to move in those categories.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: So hard Bunch is adding that what will be a
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: difference in my mind, I don't look with Super Bowl Jackson,
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: I don't know. But they just need a level of
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: professionalism at that position. They don't haven't they ever, just
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: haven't had in years.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: All right, Uh, overtime but only by a thirty seconds.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: So I'll let you go, dude, thank you.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe it, or don't have work to do.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: It's such a so dumb that sounds blame I know.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: All right, bye, buddy, talk to you later.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Thanks. That's Jeff Schwartz.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: He's been an expert for US on college football in
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: the NFL all season long.