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Seahawks vs. Cowboys Preseason Reaction: Who Stood Out, Who Didn't? · Sea Hawkers Podcast: for Seattle Seahawks fans

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Brandan: Hello, and welcome to the Sea Hawkers Podcast.
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I'm your host Brandan Schulze, and tonight I am joined by
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my good buddy Clinton Bonner.
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And we've got people in the chat joining us live for the post game.
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Ryan911 saying, "MOB is good all the time."
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And, it is all the time that the MOB is good.
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Clinton?
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Clinton: It is.
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it just turns out that sometimes your third and fourth stringers
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aren't, exactly great, and that wasn't the most, you know, the most
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exciting Seahawks football game.
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But that's okay, because it's game one of the pre-season, it's August 15th.
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And Brandan, when the closer to starters were in, we looked okay.
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We looked darn good when the closer to starters were in.
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We were up 7-0 early in fact, Brandan.
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Brandan: Yes, up 7-0 early, and then I tuned out.
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So- … we'll just, we'll just pretend that's all we saw.
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But, we also have a special guest joining us tonight.
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It is Mookie Alexander of Field Gulls.
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Nice.
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It's been a while, Mookie.
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Welcome back to the show.
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Mookie: Yeah, it's good to be on.
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it's great to have Seahawks football back, no matter how
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tedious a watch that was.
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but it just means that y- y- you do another check mark.
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Okay, that's one down, two to go, roster cuts, and then boom, Wednesday,
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September 9th, the real thing happens.
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I, I, I can assure you that, the dudes who are out there playing,
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about 80 to 90% of them will not be even on the roster come, come week one.
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Brandan: Yeah, especially after half time.
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You get to watch it and you're going, "Oh, man.
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Just, our defense is getting run over."
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And then you realize- Yeah … okay, well a lot of these guys aren't gonna be on the
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Seahawks defense when, when we kick it off against the Patriots for week one.
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And really, I think the story of the game, Clinton- Hmm.
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You have one … was penalties.
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Clinton: Oh, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Brandan: Because I, I, I did the Control + F on my play-by-play sheet here.
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27 called penalties.
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Wow.
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Oof.
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and, you know, some of those were declined obviously,
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but 27 called penalties between the Cowboys and Seahawks.
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So a, a sloppy game, Mookie, on both sides of the ball.
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Mookie: Yeah, very sloppy.
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a- and in certain areas it, it, it's sloppy at a, to a point
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where you go, "That person is probably not making the roster."
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Hmm.
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And I'm talking about somebody like Logan Brown, who I think
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had four penalties tonight.
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Clinton: Woof.
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Mookie: And, and I mean, when I was at camp last week, he
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had two false starts even at the, the one practice I saw at VMAC.
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Oof.
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so I think that's…
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And they were both false starts.
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So that's, that was, that's been an issue for him.
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Even though he looked better than Amari Kight from the camps that I saw,
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that's not saying a whole lot when you consider the performances of the
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second and third string offensive line.
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just some undisciplined penalties on the defensive side
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of the ball in the secondary.
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Shemar Jean-Charles I, I think will make it a very easy decision as far as who
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gets let go when Terrion Arnold get signed.
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a- and really, like Jean-Charles was always gonna be a long shot to make the
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roster, but he made sure that, that long shot disappeared, lickety split.
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So- I, I, I think that's, of course, game result doesn't matter.
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There's no game plan or anything like that.
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I don't think Macdonald's gonna be happy with the ugliness and the disjointed
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nature of the, of this particular game.
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because we saw, we were there last preseason.
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We, we watched all the games and, and for the most part they
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were a lot cleaner than this.
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Mm-hmm.
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So-
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Brandan: Yeah
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… Mookie: no reason to panic, but it does put into perspective the gap you
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see between the top guys, the ones who are gonna be playing on Sundays
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every week, and then the ones who are just trying to make the roster.
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Brandan: Okay, Clinton, but here's the thing.
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Yeah.
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I, I can handle some false start penalties, like we get those every
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game, some defensive holding or some hands to the face, that's fine.
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We had dudes at wide receiver just lining up into the neutral zone and,
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and wide receivers false starting and, and it's those ones, it's like,
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tho- Yes, it's pre-season, but I don't even wanna see those in the pre-season
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Clinton: There was one on Cody White too, which, which I, I
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don't think he actually moved.
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He certainly didn't seem like he thought he moved.
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Coming back to the sideline, they called it on him.
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Brandan: Well, Cody White also thought he caught one of
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those passes that he dropped.
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Clinton: Yes, he did.
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I say, look, you gotta, you gotta try, right?
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But, but look, the, the first drive, it, there was…
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It looked, it looked pretty clean.
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and I'm not gonna sit here and be like, "Oh, Drew Lock looked good," 'cause
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it doesn't really matter, but Drew Lock did Drew Lock things in the first drive.
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But the first drive also gave you Holani with a couple of nice
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runs, getting to the edges, nice, nice blocks on the interior.
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Then there was a really nice play to Arroyo on that first drive, where it
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was a little play action to Holani, quick hit over the middle to, to
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Arroyo, it, you know, really in stride.
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And you start to get the sense of what the Fleury offense wants to go do.
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So while the totality was very sloppy and messy, and then once we got
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into the third and fourth quarter, we really were getting run over.
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You know, we just…
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That, that part's ugly, ugly, and not fun.
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I really do, really would like to focus more on the first part of what we saw
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there, and, that looked pretty smooth.
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So from a Fleury perspective, guys, I could take a little bit
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of, a little bit out of this and be like, "Okay, I think I see
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what Fleury was attempting to do."
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And this, this is game one, training wheels still on,
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not giving away everything.
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But Brandan, that part looked pretty good to me.
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7-nothing early.
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I like that.
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Brandan: Yeah, let's go back to the first drive here in a second.
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And, we've got Ryan911 coming in with a super chat of 9.99.
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Clinton: Nice.
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Brandan: Fun to watch Seahawks football again.
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Very fun and appreciate you executive producer-ing, the show, Ryan.
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Carly Perkins also in at 4.99.
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I didn't catch most of the game, but Spoon got paid.
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So glad we could take- True … care of my boy, and we're one step
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closer to real football again.
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We're gonna get to talking to some Spoon too.
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But, going to this first drive, Mookie, how, how did you feel about it?
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Because, y- the, the last throw, the, the touchdown pass by Lock, great throw.
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Oh, yeah.
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you referenced the, the pass to Arroyo that was kind of set up with…
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You saw a couple similar guard pulling type plays that were run plays, and
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then they, they build off of that and run that same type of guard pull-
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Yeah … but then it's the pass to Arroyo.
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so, but really when you look too at the, at, at, at the box score,
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Drew Lock nine of 13, 40 yards, Mookie.
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That's, a little over…
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or what?
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Three yards per attempt.
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so maybe, maybe not a good day overall.
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But we got to see a n- a couple nice throws by Lock.
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Mookie: Yeah, they were pretty much all on the first drive because I, I
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would say after that he was not sharp.
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He, I think he was a little worse than the nine of 13.
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what indicates the 40 yards definitely justified, given
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some of the misses he had.
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He had a bad miss to Bobo over the middle, and then he overshot a wide
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open Montorie Foster, and I think that would've been a big play.
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That was early in the third quarter.
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But that touchdown to Foster was a nice throw.
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Brandan: Yeah.
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Mookie: And it was also a great play by Foster because he's barely
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out of his break running a little post there and then coming back, and by
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the time he has to turn around, the ball's on him and he's able to get it.
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And I know Foster had a drop, and then I think he had a penalty also, but
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who didn't really in the second half.
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But, if the Seahawks are gonna stash six receivers, if they're gonna roster
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six guys, and we already know who the top five are I think Montorie Foster
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might be in that mix with Cody White.
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I'd say Ricky White is now below Foster because you notice Foster
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was out there before Ricky was.
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Brandan: Right.
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Mookie: And Foster, you don't…
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I, I'm kind of wondering, are they willing to expose him to waivers?
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Because one thing that we always freak out about every year is, "Oh man, that
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guy's gonna get claimed, this guy's gonna get claimed," and very, very few players
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actually get claimed during cut down day.
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Brandan: Right.
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Mookie: The one thing that kind of complicates that for the Seahawks
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is that they've got a, a guy in Minnesota named Nolan Teasley who might be
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watching whatever the Seahawks are doing.
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So- Mm … you've got Minnesota, you got Carolina, maybe you have Las Vegas,
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so those would be three teams you could think of who could possibly look to
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get in on some, some Seahawks talent.
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but- And the Niners
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Brandan: maybe with
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Mookie: the wide receiver … yeah, it, it's possible.
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Yeah, it, it is very possible that happens.
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But, like, if Foster doesn't make the team, I think he, and he clears waivers
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immediately to the practice squad.
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Alternatively, he makes the roster, you waive Cody White, Cody White
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clears waivers all the time, and he goes to the practice squad, and that
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might be what they're willing to do just to have a young guy on the team.
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And I'm happy for Foster given he goes from substitute teacher to, to
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maybe a, a- an NFL week one player.
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We'll see how it goes.
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Brandan: I hate how they put in those stories too, 'cause then
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you're like, "Oh, I, I definitely have to root for, for the guy."
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And, and Daniel Smith in chat saying, yes, Raiders would claim him.
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Montorie Foster finishes the night five catches, 36 yards.
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right behind him, Jake Bobo, three catches, 13 yards.
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And then, yardage wise, the only guy that, would follow him up i- Velus
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Jones had two catches for negative five.
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So maybe that's why, Drew Lock's hurting a little bit there too.
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And Elijah Arroyo with one catch for, 12 yards.
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Looking at the quarterbacks, Jalen Milroe, five of eight, 36 yards and,…
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But he had some rushing stats.
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He had five carries on 36 yards.
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So, Clinton- Yes … we'll go to you in a second.
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check out Yokai Hawk here with the, 1707 yen.
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Appreciate that Yokai Hawk.
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Nice.
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"Is there any way we can assess Fleury's play calling regardless of the execution?"
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So let's go there.
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though execution is kind of his responsibility too.
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I, Clinton, it, it seems to me that I really go more off of that
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first drive because those are the scripted plays, and then I don't know
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if there's much we can take away from it too because part of it was offensive
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line, part of it was penalties.
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Clinton: Yeah.
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Brandan: And part of it too, y- we're going for it on fourth down in situations
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that maybe we wouldn't necessarily be going for it on fourth down if, you
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know, y- we, we got a turnover inside the, what, five yard line- Mm-hmm … and
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just run three straight times to the, well, twice to the outside, one up
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the middle that gets stuffed, and then they go for it on fourth down again.
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Would that series be called a little bit differently, late in the game?
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That's tough to say, but w- what do you take away play calling-wise?
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Clinton: So I do think your points are good there, first and foremost.
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You know, Myers misses a chip shot, doesn't typically do that, right?
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So that's points off the board.
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And then we're going stuff on fourth and four, and things
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of that nature, which, you know, during the season, you're just not
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typically doing that, which is fine.
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You- you trot Myers out there.
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Last year he broke LT's record for most points ever scored,
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and you just go get your points.
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the first two drives, the, the first time Milroe was in,
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that was a promising drive too.
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Seattle was so good last year that when they did have the occasional
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five-yard penalty, they were also really clean last year a lot, but they were
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very good last year that they didn't allow, like, a five-yard penalty to
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just automatically derail a drive.
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A couple of years ago, maybe year one Mike Macdonald, and certainly the
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end of the Pete Carroll era, drives would get derailed all the time
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with, like, a little false start.
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Like, okay, well, they're just might- might as well not play,
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might as well punt on second down.
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That, that kind of happened today where the, the start of some of the other
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drives were promising, and then there's a negative play, and they just couldn't,
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couldn't get out of that, their own way.
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That's okay.
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It's, they will work those kinks out.
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I think the early stuff that was running the football looked promising,
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and we know, like, we know…
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But look, Sam's gonna…
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I think Sam's in line for a quality year, maybe in a, maybe
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even a very, very good year.
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We'll see.
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of course he's get- he's getting the glow up with the 21st, ranking
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at NFL 100, and of course what's happening on, on, Hard Knocks.
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But this team's gonna run the football.
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So I think it was promising early there, and some of the, some of the backup,
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guards and tackles on the first couple of drives looked pretty good.
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You know, un- until it didn't.
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So those are the things that I could take away and say, "Hey, early in
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the game we looked pretty competent."
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One thing I'll…
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Before I'll pass to Mookie in a sec, but I thought Milroe was okay, and where I, I
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realized Drew Lock's line of nine of 13, not that many yards, but he did have that
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big pass down the sideline that drew a PI.
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I think that was Foster also.
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I, I believe that was also Foster who gets held for a big PI play,
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so doesn't count in the stat line, but, you know, the chunk is a chunk.
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Milroe to me s- takes three sacks, still had a, had a fumble himself that
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he recovered Hungry Hungry Hippo style.
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But he still seemed a little rushed to me.
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But he also, Mookie, I'm not sure if you could pick apart anything from
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Milroe besides a little rushed, looked pretty good, but seemed to also still
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wanna kinda go run the football a bit more than maybe es- escape and make a play.
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Or did he just not have enough time?
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What did you see, Mookie?
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Mookie: well first thing, the, the long throw that drew the
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PI was to Cody White, I believe.
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Cody,
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Clinton: okay, cool.
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Mookie: I think there was a, the throw before that Bobo
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got blatantly interfered with and still hung on for the catch.
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Yeah.
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But that was a very risky throw from Lock.
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I thought Milroe was fine the first drive.
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of course, he was able to use his legs.
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That little improvised throw to, to, to Bobo to complete a
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fourth down, only to be nullified by the Amari Kight holding penalty.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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it didn't take away from how good the play was.
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So we, we can see him be creative there.
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when it was a, a, a quick pass, I, I think he was accurate, whether it was
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that throw to Kallerup or the throw over the middle to Bobo on a third down.
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So I mean, there were some good things as far as Milroe's quick decision-making,
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but once it became, like, under center, deep drop type of, concepts, I-
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it felt like he was kind of betwixt and between as far as, should I run now?
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Because that was kind of the thing last year, is like as soon as the
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first read's not open, he's gonna bail.
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Clinton: Mm.
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Mookie: And you don't wanna be doing that in the long term w-
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if you wanna be a viable starting quarterback in this league.
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So I think there were actually some opportunities Milroe could
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have taken off sooner, and he ended up just getting sacked.
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Pass pro was very poor,- Yes … from the second and third
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team, especially from the tackles.
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Like Brown and Kight and Hart, those three were brutal.
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And then Beau Stephens had a couple of…
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He had some good moments m- mainly in the run blocking, but, in
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pass pro I don't think he hold, held up, all, all that consistently.
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So I don't think it was a great night for Milroe, all, all in all, but,
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you know, we'll, we'll see how it goes over the next couple weeks.
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I think it's just a baby steps thing, that the good news is we are seeing
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him at least run with the second team offense, and we are seeing him at least
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in there with Bobo and Elijah Arroyo and handing the ball off to George Holani.
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So th- you know, everybody I just mentioned, now, just now, those
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guys are gonna be on the roster.
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Mm-hmm.
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So we'll see how it goes next week and the week after.
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Yokai, Yokai Hawk asked, "Was it Olu for the Milroe fumble?"
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I haven't gone back to look at that play.
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if that wa- Yeah, that
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Brandan: wa- I think that was his very first snap under center, and- Yes
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and Milroe didn't have a ton of snaps under center I think when they went,…
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And most of the other ones were run plays, so.
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Mookie: Yeah.
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So, but, you know, i- if, as far as Milroe just having this amazing preseason
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out of the gate, I think maybe that's what fans were kinda hoping for.
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That he was able to just spin it, throw some deep shots, be
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aggressive, but, the, the preseason is still young, still young.
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Mm-hmm.
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We got two other games to go.
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Clinton: Yeah.
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And, and one quick thing too is I, I do wanna say for folks who might be thinking
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that I'm coming down a little hard on, on Milroe too, it's like I think he played
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markedly better than last year too.
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Like, there was, there was sincere improvement.
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There was just still a little bit of a, a little bit left on the bone there like
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you were pointing out, there, Mookie.
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Brandan: We've got BMW22 ounce in chat saying, "You guys are awesome.
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Thanks for all the content.
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So happy it's Seahawk season again.
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Looking forward to another great year with the Seahawks."
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Oh, yeah.
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for the record, Adam is awesome.
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appreciate that.
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And the 9.99
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Super Chat, BMW22.
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Clinton: Thank you.
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Awesome.
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Brandan: I I see people, putting in chat, all the places
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that, is hiring for Milroe.
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I, I don't know why you would give up on, on Jalen Milroe a third
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round pick, in a, in a…
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after the first game and the second preseason.
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I, I think it's a little bit early to be doing that, Mookie,
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despite how, you know, may…
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It wasn't great, but, I, I didn't think it was terrible either.
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Mookie: No, I think some of the sacks might not have been,
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great in, in terms of, of Milroe being able to escape pressure.
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Sure.
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I will say, when he's running along the sideline, I mean, that scramble
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he had on third and 11- Mm-hmm.
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Right … you can see the speed at times, and then there are other points…
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In o- in other words, like his speed is different depending on which
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direction he's actually running, and that can get him into trouble at times
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when he's trying to scramble, like on that fourth and goal sack at the one.
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He's trying to do the Russ spinorama and, and he's unable to, to get free.
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That is definitely a play call that I'm 100% sure under no circumstances
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Brian Fleury would run with Sam Donald on the first team offense.
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Gotcha.
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maybe would even run it with Lock in the second team offense.
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So we don't really glean too much from what Fleury did
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as far as play calling here.
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especially the deeper into the game he gets, kind of game
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strategy goes out the window.
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You're just doing whatever to assess your quarterback, your
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line, your receivers, all that.
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But, let, let's pump the brakes on Milroe and, and wanting to send
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him out to, to FedEx or Arby's and all, and, and all these other lovely
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places that definitely need employment.
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But I think Milroe is above that.
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But, yeah, just, just be patient.
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And you know what?
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If it doesn't work out, it's not the end of the world.
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He is a third round pick.
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He's not a first round pick challenging for Sam Darnold's job.
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The only thing that I was looking to see with Milroe in preseason
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is can he be a guy you can actually have active on game day?
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Not immediately replace Drew Lock right now, but is he a guy who for
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whom you can actually do a package for and, you know, n- not have it
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be as catastrophic as last year?
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Jury's still out on that front, but if he shows some more development
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over the next couple weeks, then maybe you can go, "All right, we can have
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Milroe in the game occasionally," and he's actually a threat to pass.
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If he's not a threat to pass over these next couple of weeks and the
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coaching staff doesn't trust him, then you just keep Milroe inactive
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most times like they did last year.
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Brandan: Well, and I think too, I think we as fans got a little bit hyped up
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with some of the reports that we heard that, oh, it's really Jalen Milroe
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and Drew Lock, they're really gonna be competing for quarterback number two.
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And w- when you start to hear that, then you're, oh, may- maybe he has developed
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to the point to where he's gonna push Drew Lock, and, and maybe you can move
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Drew Lock for picks and, and, and keep two quarterbacks and still be fine.
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But yeah, if we go just the way that, from what we've seen from
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week one, I'm okay with Sam Darnold having two competent backups behind
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him and, Drew Lock being the one that is the next one to be up, Quinn.
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Clinton: Yeah, no, I am as well.
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And I think, I don't know if there's much else on the o- on the
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offensive side of the ball, guys.
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I mean, I just, I just don't think there was a ton there that you could pick apart.
18:53
I think Velus Jones looks…
18:56
He's fast, you know, he gets to the outside pretty quickly,
18:59
and I think he's, he could be, he could do some good work.
19:02
But besides that, again, Holani looked the part to me.
19:05
Actually, when Justin Jones, who got the one carry at the goal line late
19:08
in the game, he looked pretty good.
19:09
He didn't quite get into the end zone, and we did not convert on that play.
19:12
But- We
19:12
Brandan: got to see a nice Lampe, fullback
19:15
Clinton: though.
19:15
Yes, yes.
19:15
There you go.
19:16
That's a good call-out, right?
19:17
So just trying to find a couple more bright moments from the, the offense.
19:20
Lampe did lay a guy out.
19:21
It was that very play.
19:23
So you really do wanna see, the running back able to just punch it in
19:27
at that, at that point, but I think it was a nice tackle that was made.
19:29
But Lampe made, he blew a guy up, so that was kinda cool to see as, as, as well.
19:34
I don't know if there was other stuff on the offensive side that
19:37
I could dig into with confidence and say, "Ooh, I s- how about
19:40
Brandan: Smila?"
19:40
I feel like we pretty much expired the, the offensive guys.
19:42
Clinton: Yeah, I guess the only other way we could talk
19:44
is, like, offensive linemen.
19:46
You know, the, the announcers were, like, glowing up Beau Stephens, and as
19:49
soon as they glowed up L- Beau Stephens, he kinda took a, he kinda got off balance,
19:53
took a stab, and, and then ended up with a pretty bad holding penalty.
19:57
But Mookie, any other dudes across the offensive line that
19:59
you thought, you talked about guys that didn't perform too well.
20:03
Anybody stand out in the offensive line that, that played at least pretty good?
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Mookie: nothing that immediately, jumped out to me.
20:10
I will say it's kind of ominous for Bryce Cabeldue to, to be that deep- Mm
20:13
into the game- Mm-hmm … and then he gets in with the third team.
20:16
So if that persists over these next couple weeks, it's possible
20:20
Cabeldue is on the bubble.
20:21
Clinton: Yeah.
20:21
Mookie: And I think part of it is because Beau Stephens is somebody who
20:24
traded f- up in the draft for, he gave up some capital next year, to, to
20:29
acquire, and Stevens had been with the third team pretty much all of camp.
20:32
but he got in with the, with the second team, if you will,
20:34
very, very early in this game.
20:36
And so you got…
20:37
I, I will say Christian Haynes, other than that one look like bust in,
20:40
in pass pro, I don't know if there was supposed to be a double team
20:43
there and he ends up falling down.
20:44
Christian Haynes didn't look too bad.
20:46
Clinton: Yeah, I
20:46
Mookie: agree.
20:46
And really i- if for, for Christian Haynes, it's just make the roster because
20:50
i- these first two seasons had everybody wondering is his goose cooked already.
20:55
But it's, by all, all accounts, he's had a good camp, and at least in limited playing
21:00
time today, he, he w- other than that one rep- Yeah … he didn't look out of place.
21:04
So as long as that persists, then you've probably got three guards on
21:07
this roster meaning Bradford, Haynes and, and Stevens, and then it's kind
21:12
of up in the air for everybody else.
21:14
and of course Cabeldue on the left side, but at right guard
21:16
you got those three options.
21:17
Brandan: Yeah.
21:18
Well, and just the fact that Haynes was out there.
21:19
He wasn't out there for super long before they went ahead and put
21:24
Stevens in and gave him some work.
21:25
So it kind of told you that maybe they didn't need to see a,
21:28
a whole lot from Haynes either.
21:30
We've got Doo Daddy in chat saying, "Give Holani some love.
21:33
Never had a bad play."
21:34
He was 12 carries, 42 yards.
21:37
He played quite a bit of the first half- Mm
21:39
more than I expected, finished with an average of three
21:41
and a half yards per carry.
21:43
I, I thought he was fine.
21:45
I, I'm not, I…
21:47
He makes me more excited that, to see Zach Charbonnet back.
21:51
I but-
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Clinton: The average wasn't great, but, but he-
21:54
Brandan: Fine.
21:55
He, he, he was okay
21:56
… Clinton: I thought it was pretty good.
21:56
You know, and again, there wasn't, like, huge gashing holes either.
21:59
He had a couple of those plays where, you know, a dude's in the backfield right
22:03
away and he's at least getting back to the line of scrimmage or a gain of one
22:06
or two- Yeah … where instead of a, instead of a TFL, that's am- And maybe
22:09
Brandan: behind the, the first team offensive line-
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Clinton: Yes.
22:12
Brandan: Yeah … you know, he can, he can pick up those yards.
22:14
But-
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Clinton: I- there was a couple, and, and again, that first drive and the
22:16
second drive, there was a couple of nice five-yard gains or, like, a incomplete
22:20
pass on first down, but they're running on second down, then run third and five.
22:23
It's like, okay, that's very acceptable.
22:25
but you know, nothing, no breakaways, nothing huge like that.
22:29
But I think Holani's an NFL, he's an NFL running back.
22:31
And actually he end- he very well could be our, our first series starter this year
22:36
versus the Patriots in a couple of weeks.
22:38
That, that's not out of the realm of possibilities whatsoever.
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Mookie: Yeah, he's anywhere from middle class Charbonnet
22:44
to rich man's Travis Homer.
22:46
That's a very
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Brandan: good description.
22:50
some highlights on the defensive side of the ball.
22:53
Tyrice Knight finished with 10 total tackles of seven solo, three assist.
22:59
he also had a couple passes defensed.
23:02
between him and I would say Noah Igbinoghene- Mm-hmm, mm-hmm … probably
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the two guys that stood out to me, Mookie.
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May- maybe a little bit of Mike Mo early on, too, Mike Morris.
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Mookie: Yeah, I, I'd say so.
23:14
There were a couple of good, pass rushing reps from Riley Mills.
23:17
Riley Mills, yeah.
23:17
he, he didn't immediately jump out today as, as much as I saw in training
23:21
camp, and of course Sam Darnold and Leonard Williams on the broadcast, they were
23:25
both pumping up how, how well Riley had, had been performing this off-season.
23:29
So, I definitely think that Mills still has got plenty of room to grow, and
23:33
they gave him quite a bit of a workout in the first half, and it was needed
23:36
because he didn't play, many…
23:38
He played 30 some odd snaps all of last season e- even in
23:41
the few games that he played.
23:43
So when it comes to the defensive side of the ball, as you said, Tyrice Knight looks
23:46
really good, and he's gonna be hard to keep off the field, as Mike Macdonald said.
23:50
I can see him added in sub packages or even maybe going back to rotating
23:54
him and, and Drake Thomas at times.
23:56
and also the fact that he, you could line him up at edge, I think is,
24:00
is something that is worth monitoring.
24:01
Saw that quite a bit in pre-season.
24:03
Noah Igbinoghene did look good.
24:05
There was that one deep shot to, to Marquez Valdes-Scantling- Yeah
24:09
and Igbinoghene shut that down immediately.
24:11
And, he also had a nice blitz that forced Howell into a
24:14
panic throw and a red zone stop.
24:16
So he…
24:17
I, I thought Igbinoghene looked good.
24:19
As far as, you know, other people, Patrick O'Connell, I think,
24:22
he, he's making a good case to be that fourth linebacker- Mm
24:26
on the depth charts, at least in, you know, inside linebacker, and
24:29
he's been a special teams veteran, but I think he's got a case for,
24:32
you know, making the roster proper instead of being practice squad.
24:35
And Mike Morris, e- every year it looks like Mike Morris is
24:38
on the bubble, and then he ends up being a preseason standout.
24:41
I, I will say you can tell it's preseason whenever Mike Morris is an edge.
24:46
Because in actual regular season games, he almost never is.
24:49
Clinton: Right.
24:49
Mookie: and I, I think a part of it is because if we…
24:53
if I have to critique this defense, and I've seen it when I was at camp
24:56
last week and then seeing it tonight, there's just nothing there as far as,
24:59
as deep in the depth chart edge rushers.
25:01
Jalen Gaines, I thought had a couple of good plays.
25:03
Yeah.
25:03
He had a nice tackle for loss and a pressure would-be sack, but outside
25:06
of that, it's just too scarce.
25:08
Connor O'Toole really just got shut down.
25:10
Aidan Hubbard has been really not…
25:12
N- nothing to, to write home about.
25:15
He's been underwhelming, I would say.
25:16
So, and Jared Ivy is anywhere from a big end to, to, like, an
25:20
interior lineman, so didn't see enough of the pass rush really from, from
25:24
the reserves on the defensive line.
25:26
Brandan: No.
25:26
D- They, they struggled to set an edge later on.
25:29
even the interior push, there wasn't much there.
25:32
I, I did see Devin Eastern on one play had some nice push up the middle, but,
25:37
yeah, that was, that was about it.
25:39
I, I feel like we're now shifting to a lot more of the negatives on defense, Glenn.
25:43
Clinton: Well, I think there's a few more positives.
25:45
And I, I…
25:46
Mills, the first, again, very first few series, he, he was getting that bull rush
25:51
going and just put- pushing the pile back.
25:53
It kinda waned a little bit as the game went on.
25:55
But I think, you know, I saw some folks on Twitter that were like, "Oh man, I
25:58
expected so much more from Riley Mills."
26:00
Like, well, okay.
26:02
A, A, I hear you, but guys, we've gotta remember that at some point it'll, when
26:07
Riley Mills is out there, he'll be, you know, next to Leo or be next to,
26:12
you know, be next to, Byron Murphy.
26:14
and, you know, we got the news t- two days ago, I think now, that,
26:18
you know, that, DeMarcus Lawrence is gonna retire after this year.
26:21
So the thinness after, you know, the, the ones that did not play, and the thinness
26:26
after even, like, the second rotation guys are out there, it's like it's
26:29
something they're gonna have to address.
26:31
And, you know, whether that's a…
26:32
I don't think they'll do a mid-season trade to adjust, address
26:35
that unless they have injuries.
26:37
But the talent beyond that's really not there.
26:40
And I'm glad you brought up Eastern.
26:42
Eastern, there was a play that Gaines made a, made a nice tackle for a loss.
26:45
I think it was Gaines.
26:46
But it was really Eastern that blew it up completely.
26:49
So he did have that nice play, and I saw Dansby get mentioned
26:52
in the, the comments, too.
26:53
He had a nice play on the edge down, down by the goal line also, where he
26:57
just strung it out, but really held his ground and made a nice play.
27:01
I, I'm not sure if that was on Milton or the running back that was out there.
27:04
But Dansby showed up a little bit as well.
27:07
So there was at least a few more, single, you know, single or,
27:12
examples or, two plays from a guy.
27:15
I gotta say, the, the linebacker play, once we were in the third and fourth
27:19
quarter, I did not think was very good.
27:21
You know?
27:21
Just, just guessing at holes a lot of times, it seemed to me.
27:25
And, without calling dudes out specifically, 'cause I don't
27:29
wanna, like- It sounded like
27:29
Brandan: you're calling out Chad Surratt, but,
27:30
Clinton: Well, tr- Aaron Smith, too.
27:32
You know, I'm, I'm not trying to kill dudes that, that may
27:34
or may not make this team.
27:35
But, and Chad Surratt- Chad Surratt'll
27:37
Brandan: probably make the team just especially-
27:38
Clinton: As a special teamer.
27:39
He's stuck around the NFL for a while.
27:40
But, but the level of linebacker play really fell off a cliff.
27:44
But again, it's, it's, it is what it is.
27:46
but yeah, I mean, for me, Brandan, a couple of bright moments, but overall,
27:51
not, just not the most exciting game.
27:54
There weren't that many big plays
27:56
Brandan: All right, Mookie.
27:56
Was, was it apparent w- on, on the defensive side why we went ahead
28:01
and, got Terrion Arnold this week?
28:05
Mookie: Well, y- yes and no.
28:08
I, I thought that Pritchett and, again, Pritchett and Igbinoghene were good.
28:11
We still…
28:12
We, we know nothing of Julian Neal, really- Mm … because
28:14
he hardly practiced in camp.
28:15
He got injured early.
28:16
And I have told Bryce Coutts, on, the Hawk Eye podcast on Friday
28:20
that I suspect that Neal n- not being available for as long as he's ha- has
28:26
been injured was somewhat of a factor.
28:29
Not the ma- It's certainly not the main driving factor for signing
28:32
Terrion Arnold, 'cause you take a guy like Neal in the third round, he's
28:35
somebody you would anticipate would be getting significant snaps right away,
28:39
and he's just gonna be so far behind.
28:41
He's got so much catch-up to do that the, it's gonna take a bit for him to
28:45
even get snaps in the regular season.
28:46
So, but definitely once you got deeper in the depth chart, Jean-Charles,
28:50
as I said, brutal game, and then I think Fuller got beat a couple times,
28:54
ear- early in the third quarter.
28:56
So, Michael Dansby I thought, and Clinton mentioned it, had
28:59
some good ga- had some good plays.
29:01
Even the touchdown that he gave up, he was in position.
29:04
That was just a phenomenal catch, by that, Kamdyn Brown guy.
29:07
He had a, a n- nice night for Dallas.
29:09
Yeah, a couple nice
29:09
Brandan: catches.
29:09
So, yeah.
29:10
Mookie: Yeah, and, and newsflash, everybody, replacing Riq Woolen is
29:13
not gonna be as easy as it looks, and Terrion Arnold may not be a direct
29:19
replacement for Riq or anything, but he's certainly gonna be in the mix,
29:22
along with Igbinoghene and Pritchett.
29:24
And, yeah, what, Dansby and Fuller were, were gonna be long
29:27
shots to make the team to begin with.
29:29
So over the next couple weeks, we'll see if they can really push higher up.
29:34
I know Dansby's had a good camp, but there's a difference between having a
29:36
good camp and maybe making a case for the roster, and having a good camp and
29:40
suddenly you're, you're cornerback three.
29:42
So we kinda saw that gap there.
29:44
Mm-hmm.
29:44
Brandan: Yeah.
29:45
Shemar Jean-Charles got picked on a little bit.
29:47
Really, though, when I look over at the, list of receivers for the Cowboys,
29:53
it was 200 yards passing, and so that was generally against second and third string.
29:59
So I, I'm, I'm not ready to freak out about defensive depth or anything.
30:03
It's just, yeah, I, I think that- If Arnold is going to compete for a
30:11
spot, and we don't even know if he's going to end up on the commissioner's
30:13
exempt list potentially, and, we may not have him until his legal
30:19
situation is all under control.
30:21
So, if it gets under control.
30:23
So, it's gonna be a lot to watch there.
30:25
I, I do hope that we get to see, yeah, a little bit of our third round
30:30
cornerback at some point, Mookie.
30:32
But, yeah, it does take me though, while we're talking about cornerback,
30:37
how about our corner, Clinton- Mm.
30:39
That got paid- Oh.
30:41
… a, record-setting contract today, and that is Mr.
30:46
Devon Witherspoon.
30:47
Clinton: Yeah.
30:47
That…
30:47
So this is prob- probably the best news of the day, even with the game
30:51
being played, I'd say almost certainly.
30:52
And, and if the Seahawks came out clean without injury, that'd
30:56
be the second-best news for sure.
30:58
but look, we all knew Spoon was gonna be getting, getting his bag,
31:01
and I just-- What I continue to appreciate about this team is that
31:07
even with Hard Knocks happening and it being discussed a little bit on Hard
31:11
Knocks, no drama, no hold-ins, no…
31:14
He, he played, he played every…
31:16
You know, he's out there every single practice just doing his thing, balling
31:19
out there like, like Spoon does, and he's excited on the sideline.
31:23
Of course, he just made $100 million guaranteed today,
31:26
which is really, really good.
31:27
but look, they locked up another guy from a recent draft class.
31:32
So you got JSN, highest paid wide receiver in, in the league for a bit, and you
31:37
have now Spoon, highest paid corner in the league in the same exact draft.
31:40
You know?
31:41
It's Flowers to Schneider, but also how they handled this.
31:45
Mookie for me, it was always going to get done.
31:48
There's no way an agent and a young man's walking away from,
31:52
you know, $130 million or so.
31:54
It, it was of course going to get done.
31:56
But I'm glad it's done and there's not all this, like Gonzalez, who has
32:00
the same agent, seemingly wants a different type of structured contract.
32:05
But we're done, we're locked up, and now Spoon is what, here for…
32:09
He's got two more years on this contract, and it's a four-year extension.
32:13
Do I have that right?
32:14
Is he, is he here for six more years now?
32:17
Mookie: Yeah, and I think there's a void year tacked onto that, so I mean,
32:20
it spreads things out a little bit more.
32:22
John Gilbert's over at Field Goals will be the, cap experts
32:26
to crunch all the numbers on Sunday.
32:28
Certainly a lot more interesting than covering, what
32:30
we just watched tonight.
32:32
But, in terms of Witherspoon getting that extension, I, I was never
32:35
worried and, and even if it didn't happen this year, it's not like he's
32:38
a free agent at the end of this year.
32:39
Right.
32:39
They picked up his fifth year.
32:40
So as you said, Clinton, that extension, much like JSN's, doesn't start
32:45
until after the fifth-year option.
32:46
Clinton: Right.
32:46
Mookie: So he is the highest paid corner in the league, and at the same
32:49
time that deal doesn't really, the bulk of that deal doesn't kick in
32:53
until a couple years down the road.
32:54
So the average over time is not 30-plus million- Correct … in, in, in reality.
33:01
So, but Witherspoon, he is that force multiplier, as, as has
33:05
been one of the, the Mike Macdonald, favorite phrases to say.
33:09
He is, he is the do it all.
33:10
And for Christian Gonzalez, maybe he'll end up being the highest paid corner by
33:13
like a couple hundred thousand bucks, much like Jahmyr Gibbs got that extension right
33:17
after Bijan Robinson did with Atlanta.
33:19
Mm-hmm.
33:19
But who cares?
33:21
I, I don't think anybody's gonna be championing, "Hey, we got the
33:23
highest paid corner in the league."
33:24
All I care about is that Devon Witherspoon got paid.
33:27
He is so valuable to this team because he can do it all.
33:29
He can cover, he can tackle, he can play the run, he can blitz the quarterback.
33:33
He, he is a head c- defensive head coach's dream, or really any head coach's dream
33:38
because he, of all the things he does on the defensive side of the ball.
33:42
And I'm looking forward to, seeing his stat totals and as far as interceptions
33:46
and passes defense increase because that's like the one thing that's missing is
33:50
can, can, can we get some more picks, out, out of Witherspoon, more turnovers,
33:54
more forced fumbles, more sacks, because he does all these things so well that
33:57
don't always show up in the box score.
33:59
But might as well just add onto that so he's more comfortably in the NFL's top
34:03
100 next year as opposed to- Mm … 107 with the, players list this time.
34:08
Brandan: That's right.
34:08
DooDaddy in chat saying, "101 million guaranteed.
34:12
Good for him.
34:13
Love it."
34:13
Yokai Hawk saying, "Can't wait for Spoon versus Gonzo week one."
34:19
And we've got, JuanADame619 with a 4.99
34:23
super chat saying, "Thanks for the live show.
34:25
Love seeing Foster and Rochelle have big games tonight."
34:28
Yes.
34:29
Yeah, we didn't, we didn't talk about Rochelle's big kick off return, did we?
34:32
And, we can get to that too in a minute.
34:35
I, I wanted to mention with Spoon, because you did bring up something,
34:38
Mookie, that I thought was interesting.
34:40
yeah, 26 years old right now, and he won't be a free agent until he's 32.
34:47
Perfect.
34:47
So-
34:48
Clinton: Perfect
34:48
… Brandan: yeah.
34:48
the, the- Great … with that fifth year option and the four-year
34:52
extension, it does seem like we're gonna have, Spoon for quite a long time.
34:59
But yeah, how about special teams?
35:00
We, I feel like we, we should call out Rochelle because that 52-yard return,
35:05
that was one of the more exciting moments in an otherwise, game where there
35:09
weren't a, a ton of exciting moments.
35:11
Clinton: Oh, you know, it's nice that, look, we were, we were the best
35:14
special teams unit in the league last year, probably by a, a good distance.
35:18
And, you pick it right back up, sans the Myers miss, and great.
35:22
I, I don't really care that Myers misses a field go- a field goal in, at August 15th.
35:27
I, I just don't.
35:27
It'd be nice if he made it, but I don't care.
35:29
It's not a big deal that he didn't.
35:31
I thought the two best parts of the Rochelle, it
35:35
was a punt return, correct?
35:36
I think the two best parts of it, were, well, just him going north and
35:40
south, and also the announcer saying live, like, "Just, just go straight.
35:44
Go, just go straight.
35:44
Just go straight," which was kinda cool, too.
35:46
And he, and seeing the sideline, Mookie, explode.
35:50
you know, we don't hear a lot about Rochelle, throughout
35:53
the, at least I didn't, throughout, throughout mini camp and all that stuff.
35:56
He's not getting any glow up on Hard Knocks.
35:59
But it sure seemed that the players know who he is and were, were
36:03
ecstatic to see him make a big play.
36:06
The drive fizzle- fizzles out, Mookie, but the legend lives on.
36:11
Mookie: Yeah, it does, and, and the main reason he was brought on is because
36:14
he was a very good special teams guy, very good kick and punt returner in college.
36:19
So the fact that he, he was able to break one was nice, nice for him.
36:22
It's, it's not just tape for the Seahawks, it's tape for, a- another
36:26
team if in case he, he doesn't make this roster, which if we're being
36:29
honest with ourselves is highly likely.
36:31
But you always wanna have those highlights moments.
36:33
That's one of the good things of preseason, is when you see the starters,
36:36
the ones who've got comfortable job security just cheering on the dudes who
36:39
are just trying to, to make their way onto an NFL roster, showcase their abilities.
36:43
so yeah, special teams outside of the Myers miss.
36:46
and look, it's, it happens.
36:48
Yeah.
36:48
He's not gonna be automatic.
36:50
I will say that the camp, that I was at last week, I think the last,
36:53
the Wednesday practice, he was missing to the right quite a bit- Mm … but
36:56
it was a windy day, so he might have just been kind of trying to battle
37:00
the wind more than anything else.
37:02
but as far as the, the return game was good.
37:05
The coverage was, was excellent.
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I mean, Jared Ivy and Brady Russell combined for, for big hits on the
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opening kick return that Dallas had.
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TJ Harden able to recover that fumble.
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That was, honestly one of the worst punt return decisions I think I've
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ever seen from that poor Cowboys dude.
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Luckily it didn't lead to
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Brandan: a- Well, credit to Michael Dixon, though, for putting it down at the one.
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Mookie: Yes, it was, it would've been, it- He's
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Brandan: going for that 90 that Marshon's gotta get him on napping.
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Mookie: Yes, he was going for that 90, but, I, I think a-
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awareness was, was, was not very high for, for that Cowboys punt returner-
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and Seattle was able to pounce on it.
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Like, if you're at your own goal line, why are you picking it up when there's
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like three Seahawks in your face?
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So, but you gotta be on the spot, and I would anticipate that the Seahawks
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are gonna once again have one of the best special teams units in the league.
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They've very rarely had poor special teams over the last like 10, 15 years really.
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It's like the end of the Brian Schneider era and the first year with Harbaugh,
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and a lot of that was really just D.
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Williams and Laviska Shenault were that bad.
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They, they corrected that.
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Clinton: Yes.
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Mookie: We're comfortable at returner, comfortable with our
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kicker, comfortable with the punter, comfortable with the coverage units,
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so it, it's gonna be a great team.
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Brandan: You know, we got, Boklo1251 calling out the broadcasting team,
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our Seahawks home broadcasting team.
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It, it sure is fun to hear, Michael Robinson and, u- and Mike Bennett,
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Yes … both on the call, and Cliff Avril down on the sideline.
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Yokai Hawk saying, "Who had the worst day?
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SGC Dallas number 21 or the Dallas punt return guy?"
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Ooh.
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that's a, that's a tie for all three.
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… Yokai Hawk also had a question about Jake Bobo and
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being targeted early and often.
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w- where do you come out on that, Mookie?
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Because I, it…
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To me, it just seems like the idea…
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He's wide receiver number four, so with wide receiver one, two, and three not out
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there, it kinda makes sense for him to be, the more targeted wide receiver for
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Drew Lock and this group, early on.
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Mookie: Heck, he's probably wide receiver five when
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you add in Torrey Horton.
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Mm-hmm.
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Because what was notable to me- Sure … is that Horton didn't play.
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I actually thought that they would consider playing Torrey Horton a
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little bit in preseason, given his rookie year was, was truncated
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in, in such an unfortunate way.
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But the fact that they decided to hold him out of this game, may
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bode well for, for where he sits on, on the depth chart, that he is,
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quote, "an established starter" at this point as a wide receiver four.
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But, you know, Bobo's also just coming back from injury.
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He missed a good chunk of camp with, I, I believe it was a hamstring issue.
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So it's also just to get him some game reps and, and their
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familiarity with him and Lock.
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And I think for, for Milroe, it's just to have somebody who's in that top five
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to, to have some comfort throwing to.
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And Bobo is a security blanket for all three quarterbacks.
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So, he's, he's very recei- very quarterback friendly as far as
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his ability to, make tough catches.
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Not always to get open, but you know, just, just to be there
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Brandan: Well, I really wanna thank everybody who joined us here live,
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including our producers, Ryan911, Carly Perkins, YokaiHawk, who came
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in with the Super Chat, BMW22OZ,
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and,
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JuanDame619.
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And, we're gonna be talking more Seahawks.
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d- do you have a three in, three out?
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Is, is that, in the cards this week, Clinton?
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Clinton: Potentially, yeah.
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I think I…
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There was enough of, of individual plays that I think stood out that we could do
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something to, to go, one click deeper.
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I'm not sure it'll be a video one, but we, we could do it, Brandan.
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We'll do something fun.
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Brandan: All right.
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Well, we got stuff planned all throughout the week, and I really wanna thank you,
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Mookie, for joining us for the post-game.
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Anything coming up that people need to check out at fieldgulls.com?
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Mookie: Yeah, once I'm off, this podcast, we'll be doing,
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our winners and losers.
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And normally I'm a lot more thorough when it's the regular season and playoffs, but,
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it's almost nine o'clock already, so probably not gonna be my maximum effort.
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But we'll have that.
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We'll have details of the Devon Witherspoon contract coming on Sunday.
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And of course, we'll be doing some game review.
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We, we can't just burn the tape out of this one.
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So there'll be some All-22 review coming up, with, Alexandre Castro,
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probably Tuesday or Wednesday.
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It's gonna be dependent on, when the, when the All-22 footage comes out,
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'cause Alexandre's based in Brazil, so they have their All-22 in a, different
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rights agreement, whereas all of us are having regular trouble logging into NFL+.
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Brandan: Mm.
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Yes.
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Well, really wanna thank you again, Mookie, for coming on.
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I, I see in chat it, it has been way too long, and so I, I do need to
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make sure that I invite you back on, a, a lot more often this season.
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So, we will look forward to that, and we will look forward to
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more games coming up this preseason.
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And I think with that, Clinton-
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Clinton: There's only one thing left to say
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Brandan: Go Hawks.
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Mookie: Go Hawks.
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Clinton: Go Hawks.