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The Kenny Report | 3 February · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Lone from the sky New Center. This is the Kenny Report,
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  Speaker 1: Big day in the economy, Thanks for joining me.
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  Speaker 2: Interest rates rise for the first time in two years,
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  Speaker 2: and the Albenezy Labor government blames the economic strife on
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  Speaker 2: the coalition government Nearly four years ago. One Nation snares
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  Speaker 2: Cory Bernardi as a star candidate for next month's South
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  Speaker 2: Australian election.
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  Speaker 1: I'll speak with the new Liberal leader in that state.
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  Speaker 2: The ABC dodgers Islamist extremism, Mean takes a swipe at
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  Speaker 2: Israel even when reporting on the Bondai massacre.
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  Speaker 1: Brendan O'Neill joins me in the studio.
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump hits back at the Grammy's virtue signalers.
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  Speaker 1: I'll cross to Christen Tate in the US, plus.
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  Speaker 2: Tim Blair on EVS and Suzi O'Brien and Stephen Senna Tiempo.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get cracking. We all knew it was.
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  Speaker 2: Coming because the government has lost control of inflation and
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  Speaker 2: we can all see the cost of living going up
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  Speaker 2: day by day around US. The Reserve Bank put interest
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  Speaker 2: rates up today, up twenty five basis points to three
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  Speaker 2: point eighty five percent. We had a year of rates
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  Speaker 2: inching down and now they're already heading up again. It's
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  Speaker 2: the first rate rise in two years and it'll flow
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  Speaker 2: through to hurt some homeowners immediately. The RBA says inflation
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  Speaker 2: will rise even higher in coming months, so that means
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  Speaker 2: more rate rises could be on the way. High levels
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  Speaker 2: of government spending have to be contributing to these problems.
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  Speaker 2: Most reputable economists make that point, but in question Time
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  Speaker 2: today the government remained in denial.
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  Speaker 3: Government spending is fueling this mortgage pain. When will the
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  Speaker 3: Treasurer's reckless spending end?
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  Speaker 4: Prime Minister, as the Reserve Banker said, the budget is
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  Speaker 4: not the main game when it comes to inflation. At
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  Speaker 4: the same time that we have got inflation down, wages
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  Speaker 4: are up and unemployment is low compared with what we inherited.
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  Speaker 1: Now, we'll continue.
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  Speaker 4: To understand that there are real cost of living pressures
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  Speaker 4: on Australians and that is why we have implemented a
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  Speaker 4: range of cost of living measures. Yeah, the only cost
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  Speaker 4: of living issue they are interested in talking about, it's
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  Speaker 4: the cost of living with each other.
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  Speaker 2: Well as for the Treasurer, he remains smug, convinced that
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  Speaker 2: he's doing a brilliant job.
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  Speaker 3: We do know, and we have said repeatedly through the
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  Speaker 3: course of today and before now that we know that
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  Speaker 3: Australians are still under pressured despite all of the progress
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  Speaker 3: that we've made together in our economy. We know that
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  Speaker 3: Australians are still under pressure. That's why our cost of
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  Speaker 3: living relief is so important, and that's why it's so
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  Speaker 3: strange that those.
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  Speaker 5: Opposite oppose our cost.
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  Speaker 1: Of living relief.
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  Speaker 3: It's why our budget repair is so important, and why
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  Speaker 3: it's so strange that those opposite left us such a
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  Speaker 3: mess and now want to give us les about the
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  Speaker 3: budget position that we've spent three and a half years
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  Speaker 3: cleaning up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, nearly four years in power to election victories, and
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  Speaker 2: they're still blaming all their problems, all our problems on
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  Speaker 2: their predecessors.
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  Speaker 4: Big knowledge, certainly that many Australians are doing it tough.
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  Speaker 4: We went to the election promising lower taxes and lower
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  Speaker 4: deficits than those officers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he also promised cheaper electricity, lower mortgages and
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  Speaker 2: a lower cost of living. Now budget deficits are in
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  Speaker 2: place for as far as the eye can see. Mortgage
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  Speaker 2: rates are heading up again, Electricity prices are at record highs,
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  Speaker 2: pushing costs up right across the economy and squeezing households
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  Speaker 2: and businesses, and spending remains historically high.
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  Speaker 1: The economic record is not good, the.
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  Speaker 2: Outlook is even us and as ever, this remains the
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  Speaker 2: main game of national politics. It's where the opposition needs
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  Speaker 2: to focus not on themselves but on the economy.
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  Speaker 6: Now.
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  Speaker 2: Nine Media like to tell us that their investigations team,
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  Speaker 2: including investigative journalist Nick Mackenzie, is the best in the business,
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  Speaker 2: and to be fair, Mackenzie's reports, usually running across television
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  Speaker 2: and newspapers, have been telling, revealing, startling new information about
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  Speaker 2: the abuse of union power, for instance, and alleged crimes by.
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  Speaker 1: Our soldiers in combat.
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  Speaker 2: It was a Mackenzie investigation and reports that claimed Victoria
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  Speaker 2: Cross recipient and national hero Ben Robert Smith was a
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  Speaker 2: war criminal, and when Robert Smith sued for defamation, he
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  Speaker 2: lost an outcome that essentially vindicated Nine's journalism.
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  Speaker 1: But if Nine and Mackenzie.
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  Speaker 2: Are all about exposing the truth, pulling back veils of
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  Speaker 2: secrecy and letting the sunshine in, then they have a
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  Speaker 2: strange way of showing it. Nine have been trying to
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  Speaker 2: hide the details of a settlement they reached with the
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  Speaker 2: former mistress of Robert Smith during all those legal dramas.
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  Speaker 2: Nine Media and Mackenzie want this settlement kept under wraps,
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  Speaker 2: not just for now, not just for the next few years,
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  Speaker 2: but for the next fifty years. Just why they're so
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  Speaker 2: keen to keep this stuff secret is anybody's guess.
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  Speaker 1: And why for fifty years? That seems bizarre.
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  Speaker 2: The classified documents of federal Cabinet are only kept secret
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  Speaker 2: for twenty years. Nine Media once it's deal with a
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  Speaker 2: key player in this legal saga, kept secret for two
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  Speaker 2: and a half times the duration of cabinets official secrets. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: they've lost the argument for now, with the Federal Court
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  Speaker 2: saying the legal suppression of this information should end, and
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  Speaker 2: one of the main reasons is that anyone who wants
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  Speaker 2: to know about this would already know anyway. Justice Niperam
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  Speaker 2: said the information in the deed or the settlement entered
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  Speaker 2: the public domain in news articles published between the fourth
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  Speaker 2: and seventh of May last year. Those articles reveal the
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  Speaker 2: substance of the settlement. They remain available on the web
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  Speaker 2: even now, and it's likely, given the profile of the case,
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  Speaker 2: that they've been viewed by a large number of people.
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  Speaker 2: Now I can't tell you about the settlement between nine
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  Speaker 2: Media and the former mistress of the man they accuse
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  Speaker 2: of war crimes because the secrecy stays in place for
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  Speaker 2: a couple of weeks in case nine appeals, But on
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  Speaker 2: the basis of the judge's reasoning, thirty seconds on Google
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  Speaker 2: will turn up the main terms of the agreement for
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  Speaker 2: you anyway.
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  Speaker 1: The bigger question is.
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  Speaker 2: Why nine Media's investigations unit is so keen to keep
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  Speaker 2: its own secrets. Why is a unit so committed to
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  Speaker 2: revealing unpalatable truths so opposed to transparency for itself. Perhaps
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  Speaker 2: an investigative journalist might get to the bottom of it.
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  Speaker 2: I've got to give you a bit of an update
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  Speaker 2: on our Climate and Energy Minister. He's the comic Lali
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  Speaker 2: of Australian politics, forever presiding over the binfire of our
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  Speaker 2: so called transition to renewables, but telling us always that
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  Speaker 2: it's a grand success. Have a look at his latest
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  Speaker 2: social media post from the Snowy Mountains.
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  Speaker 7: Snow and Tip point zero, one of the biggest construction
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  Speaker 7: programs in the world, twenty seven kilometers of Connel's four
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  Speaker 7: thousand workers. In twenty twenty two, this project was way
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  Speaker 7: off track we've got it back on track. It's now
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  Speaker 7: seventy percent complete.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, seventy percent complete and back on track.
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  Speaker 1: Let me put that another way.
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  Speaker 2: Snowy two point zero is one hundred percent over budget
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  Speaker 2: and behind schedule. It was supposed to be finished in
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, so it's actually two hundred percent over
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  Speaker 2: time already with years to go, and originally cost it
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  Speaker 2: at two billion dollars. It's now costing over twelve billion dollars.
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  Speaker 2: But independent experts say by the time it's linked to
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  Speaker 2: the grid, it'll cost twenty billion dollars. So a seventy
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  Speaker 2: percent complete is heading for a thousand percent over budget.
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  Speaker 2: It'll be churlish, of course, though, to blame all of
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  Speaker 2: this on Bowen. This was Liberal Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull's baby,
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  Speaker 2: his Marlborough Man moment.
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  Speaker 8: I am a nation building prime minister, believe me, and
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  Speaker 8: this is a nation building project. These are big dreams
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  Speaker 8: in these mountains, real courage, a belief in the future,
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  Speaker 8: a confidence in Australia.
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  Speaker 1: Yeap the renewable man from the Snowy River. This was
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  Speaker 1: always going to be a disaster.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't even generate extra electricity, it just stores wind
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  Speaker 2: generated power for when we need it. A big mountain
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  Speaker 2: dream twenty billion dollars. You could build a few nuclear
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  Speaker 2: power stations for that and that generate emissions free extra
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  Speaker 2: power for more than seventy years. But our nation prefers
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  Speaker 2: energy self harm, mountain dreams and renewables fantasies. Let's go
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  Speaker 2: to Camber now and catch up with the Assistant Minister
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  Speaker 2: for Treasury, Shadow Assistant Minister for Treasury, Dave Sharma. Sorry
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  Speaker 2: to promote you into government there, ever, briefly, Dave, give.
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  Speaker 1: Us your take with me. Yes, yeah, you would take
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  Speaker 1: that any day.
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  Speaker 2: Talk about interest rates, a bit of backpeddling from the
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  Speaker 2: rb A governor, the Reserve Bank governor Michelle Bullock not
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  Speaker 2: really wanting to blame this on government spending, but surely
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  Speaker 2: the massive amounts of government spending the poor efforts to
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  Speaker 2: rein it in have to be a factor in what's
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  Speaker 2: happening to our economy.
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  Speaker 1: They are a huge factor.
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  Speaker 9: And I look in Michelle Bullet because of the position
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  Speaker 9: she's been in, she tries to be as diplomatic as
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  Speaker 9: possible the position she's in. But if you look at
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  Speaker 9: any independent commentators, whether it's HSBC, whether it's Chris Richardson.
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  Speaker 9: They'll all say that government spending is driving this, and
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  Speaker 9: we're in a situation where government spending is the highest
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  Speaker 9: level it's been in forty years outside the pandemic, in
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  Speaker 9: the last budget, growing at four times the rate of
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  Speaker 9: the economy. What that's doing is crowding out the private
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  Speaker 9: sector and pushing up the prices for goods, essential services
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  Speaker 9: and labor. That's what's pushing inflation up, and that's why
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  Speaker 9: Australia alone amongst all developed countries, has inflation going up
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  Speaker 9: and as a result, interest rates going up too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're running against the tide internationally. Let's have a
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  Speaker 2: look at a bit more of what Michelle Bullock had.
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  Speaker 10: The same I've heard the Treasurer say is that he
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  Speaker 10: has focused on inflation. It's his number one thing he's
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  Speaker 10: focusing on at the moment. So I think he's conscious
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  Speaker 10: of it. But I think we can work. I think
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  Speaker 10: the idea that somehow we work hand in glove is
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  Speaker 10: not the way, is not the way these things work.
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  Speaker 10: We are independent, they are independent, and we work with
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  Speaker 10: what we've got.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, independence being the key word there.
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  Speaker 1: But more worrying were the words.
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  Speaker 2: From Michelle Bullock that she expects inflation to keep going
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  Speaker 2: up in the next couple of months that are little
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  Speaker 2: top four percent in June. Surely that suggests we will
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  Speaker 2: have more interest rate rises.
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  Speaker 1: It does, that's all.
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  Speaker 9: The prognosis is terrible. I mean that the RBA has
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  Speaker 9: inflation rising for the next six months. It doesn't have
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  Speaker 9: it returning to their target band and if you like,
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  Speaker 9: for at least twelve months, which means that if the
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  Speaker 9: economy is running too hot and the government is not
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  Speaker 9: going to cut spending and they've shown no inclination, then
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  Speaker 9: the Reserve Bank has only one leave it to Paul,
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  Speaker 9: and that's to push up interest rates, and households pay
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  Speaker 9: for that, mortgagees pay for that, and small business owners
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  Speaker 9: who rely on debt and cash flow credit will all
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  Speaker 9: pay for that as well well.
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  Speaker 2: When it came to dealing with these issues in the
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  Speaker 2: Parliament today, both Anthony alban Easy and Jim Charmers just
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  Speaker 2: kept deflecting onto a divided, dysfunctional opposition. Now that's not
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  Speaker 2: going to help them run the economy, but it's a
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  Speaker 2: bit of a distraction, a pleasant distraction for them politically
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  Speaker 2: at the moment. How quickly can the coalition be put
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  Speaker 2: back together. David Little Proud and Susan Lee seem to
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  Speaker 2: be at loggerheads.
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  Speaker 9: Look to be honest with you, Chris, I don't know
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  Speaker 9: if it can be put back together.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if it will be put back together.
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  Speaker 9: I'd like to see it put back together, but it
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  Speaker 9: needs to be on the basis of a functional set
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  Speaker 9: of arrangements that works in the interests of both parties.
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  Speaker 9: So those discussions are still ongoing. I believe that a
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  Speaker 9: discussion has had last night. A proposal was put to
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  Speaker 9: the Nationals today which they've rejected. Let's see if they
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  Speaker 9: come back to anything, come back with anything to us.
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  Speaker 2: So the opposition for the Nationals shadow cabinet ministers, you
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  Speaker 2: would oppose them coming straight back into the shadow cabinet.
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  Speaker 2: You want them to serve a penance of at least
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  Speaker 2: six months.
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  Speaker 9: I'm not going to say on any individual term I
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  Speaker 9: support this and I din't, but I think it's important
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  Speaker 9: that if we get back together, it has to be
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  Speaker 9: on the basis that one party room cannot override a
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  Speaker 9: decision of the shadow Cabinet, and cannot override a decision
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  Speaker 9: of the joint party room. That's always been the way
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  Speaker 9: the coalition has worked. And we can't have a situation
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  Speaker 9: where it's coalition ala carte where you just take what
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  Speaker 9: you want from the menu and you turn back the things.
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  Speaker 9: If we're going to work as a team together we need,
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  Speaker 9: there's no ala khrte menu.
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  Speaker 2: It's an important point and coalition ala carte is a
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  Speaker 2: great way to express it.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, Dave.
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  Speaker 2: Dave Sharma there, who's the Shadow Assistant Minister for Treasury.
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  Speaker 2: On related issues, the South Australians, the South Australian voters,
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  Speaker 2: that is, they're going to go to the polls on
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  Speaker 2: the twenty first of March. And as we flagged yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: One Nation has picked up a big recruit in South
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  Speaker 2: Australia with the former Liberal Senator Cory Bernardi to run
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  Speaker 2: as the party's lead candidate in that state's Upper House,
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  Speaker 2: where he'll get eight years eight years after winning one election.
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  Speaker 2: Now he's not one to shy away from a fight.
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  Speaker 2: He has this warning today for the Labor Premier in
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  Speaker 2: South Australia, Peter malanowskis, I.
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  Speaker 11: Can assure you of this, whether we have one seat,
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  Speaker 11: we have five seats, or twenty two seats, we will
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  Speaker 11: be the strongest voice of opposition that this government has
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  Speaker 11: ever faced.
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  Speaker 7: I can assure you of that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's bring in the South Australian Opposition leader Ashton Hearns.
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  Speaker 2: He's relatively new on the job. It's the first time
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  Speaker 2: we've had her on the show. Thanks for joining us, Ashton.
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  Speaker 1: I want to get your reaction.
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  Speaker 2: First up to what Cory Bernardi says there. He's saying
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  Speaker 2: that already one Nation has got to be the main opposition.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously it's a slap at the Liberal Party.
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  Speaker 12: Oh look, well it's great to join you, Chris, and look,
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  Speaker 12: I think that we're united in the fact that we
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  Speaker 12: want to see this Labor government here in South Australia
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  Speaker 12: turfed out. But for me, I'm just focused on putting
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  Speaker 12: my best foot forward every single day and putting forward
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  Speaker 12: some really practical policies to the people of South Australia.
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  Speaker 12: I do think that we're seeing a bit of a
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  Speaker 12: change in the political landscape right across the nation, and
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  Speaker 12: that's largely because people feel like they're not being listened to.
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  Speaker 12: I think that comes from largely the federal scene, where
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  Speaker 12: we've got a Prime Minister who's not listening to people
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  Speaker 12: on things like affordability, on healthcare and on other matters
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  Speaker 12: as well that we've seen in New South Wales. But
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  Speaker 12: that's why I'm laser like focused on, you know, putting
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  Speaker 12: forward those practical policies for affordability and health care particularly.
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  Speaker 2: You've got an extremely difficult job though You've got a
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  Speaker 2: very pop bill, a premier who's running a fairly efficient government,
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  Speaker 2: and your own party has been in disarray. You've had
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  Speaker 2: a former leader on criminal charges, got other members resigning
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  Speaker 2: that have been on criminal charges. It's incredibly difficult. Yet
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  Speaker 2: now you've got one nation to contend with if they
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  Speaker 2: pick up seats both in the Upper House or even
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  Speaker 2: if they get some in the Lower House as well,
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  Speaker 2: which will be a harder ask, but they'll be taking them.
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  Speaker 1: Off you off the Liberal Party.
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  Speaker 12: Well, look, there's no doubt we've got a mountain to climb.
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  Speaker 12: And when I assumed the role of the leader of
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  Speaker 12: the Liberal Party just five weeks ago, I was really
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  Speaker 12: clear in that we know that we've got a tough
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  Speaker 12: ask ahead of us, but we're not shying away from it.
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  Speaker 12: That's why we're putting forward practical policies around affordability and
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  Speaker 12: the like, I'm not fighting one nation. I'm interested in
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  Speaker 12: defeating the Labor Party and that's where our focus is.
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  Speaker 12: And as I say, I do think people are growing
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  Speaker 12: a little bit sick and tired of politics in general
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  Speaker 12: because there are politicians right across the state, across the
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  Speaker 12: nation who aren't focused on the important things, and that's
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  Speaker 12: where my focus is.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but Cory Bernardi, he was longtime Liberal senator. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: he was president of the South Australian Liberal Party before
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  Speaker 2: he even went into parliament, so you must be worried
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  Speaker 2: about the impact he's going to have in the state
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  Speaker 2: because of his profile and also because of how well
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  Speaker 2: he knows the state and its issues.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, and look, I've met Corey on a couple of
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  Speaker 12: occasions and I've got nothing against him personally at all.
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  Speaker 12: But I'll let one nation rowe their own canoe. I'm
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  Speaker 12: the spokesperson for the Liberal Party and I'm focused on
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  Speaker 12: putting forward our policies. So look, the next election. Really,
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  Speaker 12: South Australia is a fantastic state. We live in a
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  Speaker 12: great state, whether you live in the regions or the city,
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  Speaker 12: but it can be better if we have a government
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  Speaker 12: that's focused on the important things, And as I say,
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  Speaker 12: that's where I think we're seeing this change of political
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  Speaker 12: landscape across the nation. Really because I've got politicians who
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  Speaker 12: aren't focused on the bread and butter issues and getting
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  Speaker 12: the basics right. I've got to show you under my leadership,
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  Speaker 12: that's what I'm unashamably focused on.
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  Speaker 1: I've got to show our view of something very quickly.
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  Speaker 2: Because Peter malanowskis, while I think he's been overall a
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  Speaker 2: pretty good premiere for a labor premier, he came to
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  Speaker 2: power promising to improve public hospitals and getting rid of
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  Speaker 2: ramping at public hospitals.
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  Speaker 1: Yet we saw this reported last.
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  Speaker 2: Night in Adelaide, where an elderly woman was left to
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  Speaker 2: die in a hospital hallway.
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  Speaker 13: And Helen Sergeant arrived at the Royal Adelaide. She said
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  Speaker 13: she was having trouble breathing, but there were no rooms available. Instead,
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  Speaker 13: she was wheeled into this nook outside a kitchen. At
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  Speaker 13: ten fifty five, She's checked on and found unresponsive. Helen
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  Speaker 13: was pronounced dead fifteen minutes later.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Just a shocking story.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: But given the focus by Labor coming into government on hospitals,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: surely you've got to get some accountability on what they've
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: delivered it.
• 19:02
  Speaker 12: Oh absolutely, And I mean that's just it's a shocking
• 19:05
  Speaker 12: story and it makes you wonder how many other circumstances
• 19:08
  Speaker 12: like this we're seeing across the health system. I mean,
• 19:11
  Speaker 12: this CCTV footage was really only released because the family
• 19:16
  Speaker 12: applied for a three FOI to get it, and so
• 19:19
  Speaker 12: this really does give you a peep behind the curtain
• 19:21
  Speaker 12: of what's going on in our flagship hospital here in Adelaide.
• 19:25
  Speaker 12: I think it's incredibly sadening, it's absolutely tragic, and there
• 19:30
  Speaker 12: is an integrity issue I think for the premiere on
• 19:32
  Speaker 12: this because he didn't just go to the election saying
• 19:35
  Speaker 12: that he'd try his best store that he'd give it
• 19:38
  Speaker 12: a red hot crack to turn around the health system.
• 19:40
  Speaker 12: He looked South Australians in the eye and he promised
• 19:43
  Speaker 12: that he would fix it. But more than that, you
• 19:46
  Speaker 12: know this, Chris, he urged people to vote like their
• 19:48
  Speaker 12: life depends on it. And so we won't be backwards
• 19:51
  Speaker 12: in coming forwards when it comes to the scrutiny on
• 19:53
  Speaker 12: the health system. But it's not just about the scrutiny
• 19:57
  Speaker 12: side of things. We've got to put forward our own
• 19:59
  Speaker 12: p positive policies which we have been around healthcare, around
• 20:04
  Speaker 12: workforce and making sure that we can add some extra
• 20:07
  Speaker 12: capacity into the system too.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Good stuff, Ashton Well said, We'll catch up with you again,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: no doubt.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you joining us.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Ashton Hern there, who's the new opposition leader, the Liberal
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: leader in South Australia. Will keep in touch with that
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: election as it unfolds next month.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Got to go to a break.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: On the other side, the ABC Dodgers is the most
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: extremism and takes a swipe at Israel even when reporting
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: on the Bondai massacre.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Brendan O'Neil will join me.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: As you might be aware, the ABC's Four Corners program
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: broadcast the first of a two part series on the
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Bondai massacre last night. I watched it and I tried
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: to watch with an open mind, even though it was
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: presented by Mark Willisy, who's reporting, as we've shown before,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: has included deceptive slights against our soldiers, even with edited footage,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: flipping vision around and adding a dishtional gunshots to suggest
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: that our diggers had murdered civilians. Anyway, Willis's report last
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: night was in the main a workman light report. That
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: told the harrowing story of what happened fifty one days
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: ago at Bondai. How could this not be compelling viewing?
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: It's also hard to watch, so a warning. This is
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: confronting stuff.
• 21:23
  Speaker 14: Creeping closer to the footbridge. Freelance cameraman Nick Castellaro films
• 21:27
  Speaker 14: the chaos and carnage in the park before panning his
• 21:30
  Speaker 14: camera to capture an act of great courage tackling segte
• 21:38
  Speaker 14: Akram Sutherland tobacconist Arkhmedalakhmed manages to disarm him.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Yes and the ABC also told the stories of some
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: of the Bondai heroes, both those who died and those
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: still living.
• 21:56
  Speaker 15: Court side of a little girl, she was screaming for
• 21:59
  Speaker 15: her parents. Didn't have my own kids with me, but
• 22:05
  Speaker 15: I took maybe five steps towards her. I grabbed her,
• 22:10
  Speaker 15: ran back to the chairs and lay down behind the chairs,
• 22:15
  Speaker 15: covered the little girl with my body and stayed there
• 22:18
  Speaker 15: while was shooting went on.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: The families of victims and the friends just need to
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: know that there was people tirelessly working to save their lives.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: How you buried up not great, It's terrific. Just you
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: try and do your best.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: To be a leader of people in a horrific time.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, many people were incredibly brave and selfless in a
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: situation none of them were prepared for and which none
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: of them ever should have had to face. But as
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: we've all come to expect, the ABC just couldn't help themselves. First,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: they made no mention of Islamists extremism. In fact, the
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: only reference to Islamism was one mentioned that the alleged
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: terrorists had Islamic state flags. Rather than Islamist extremism. Four
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Corners focused on anti Semitism. But listen to how they
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: framed even this broader concept of anti Semitism.
• 23:23
  Speaker 14: Following the October seven bloodbath by Hamas that left twelve
• 23:27
  Speaker 14: hundred Israelis dead and the subsequent Gaza War, in which
• 23:31
  Speaker 14: Israel killed tens of thousands of Palestinians, mostly Sivilians, members
• 23:37
  Speaker 14: of the Jewish community say anti Semitism in Australia reached
• 23:41
  Speaker 14: unprecedented levels.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, even now, even after Bondai. Even while talking about Bondai,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: four Corners targets Israel as the aggressor, killing tens of
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: thousands and mostly civilians.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: This can't be verified.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: We don't even know an accurate death tally is at
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: forty thousand, seventy thousand. There are some wild numbers around.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: We all deplore the death of any innocence, but facts matter.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: And by the way, the people responsible for all the
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: deaths are hum Us, of course, who deliberately started and
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: prolonged this war. And as for most of the dead
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: being civilians, well that correlates with Hummus propaganda, because Hummus
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: terrorists wear civilian clothes, they pose as civilians, and they
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: deliberately imperil civilians. Yet the ABC parrots this stuff. No
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: one can say for certain right now. Perhaps we'll never know,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: but there's every chance that the majority of those killed
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: in Gaza were terrorists. Certainly that's who have been targeted.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: And reputable studies have claimed that by father largest cohort
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: killed in Gaza has been males of fighting age. But
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: also four corners said members of the Jewish community say
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: antisemitism has reached unprecedented levels.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Really it's just a claim from the Jewish community.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: No, this is a material fact, this is a reality.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: We know that acts of antisemitism have reached unprecedented levels
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: in this country. Synagogues have been firebombed, burned, to the ground.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Children and childcare centers have been attacked, along with homes, businesses,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: cars and schools, and protesters have repeatedly called for into
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Farda and the annihilation of Israel and death to the IDF.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Protesters were on bomb Boy Beach itself just months ago,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: with some chanting four into Farda. Well, now we know
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: we're globalizing the intero Farda can end up.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: It's happened at that very beach.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: The ABC says the Jewish community says anti Semitism reached
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: unprecedented levels. What disgraceful and cowardly understatement and deception.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Wellisi also said the Jewish community have been calling for
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: more action.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Again, this is true to a point, but he's putting
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: this just on the Jewish community. It's all about the
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Jewish community only. According to the ABC. The fact is
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: that opposition politicians, security experts, former prime.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Ministers, former ministers, people.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Like me and Sharry Markson and other commentators here on
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Sky and elsewhere, and even the Israeli government have all
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: been appealing for more action against anti Semitism in Australia
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: and importantly against Islamist extremism too. We've been demanding it
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: almost daily for more than two years, since days after
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: the October seventh atrocities.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: But the ABC is.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Not only in denial about this issue, as it has
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: been for all of that period, facilitating the demonization of Israel.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Now after the worst terrorist attack in Australia's history, it
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: misinforms Australians about the root causes, the rising tide of
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: hatred and violence, and the relentless and consistent warnings and
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: demands for stronger action.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: This is appalling.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: It's another example of the ABC failing in its national
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: duty twin form objectively and fairly. Let's see if they
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: do any better in part two next week. But don't
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: get your help, don't get your hopes up. Let's now
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: go to a guest. We've spoken to him many times,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Brendan O'Neill, who's Spiked Online's chief political writer. He normally
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: talks to us from the UK or elsewhere. He's in
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Australia at the moment. It was great to catch up
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: with you on the weekend.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Brendan.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: I'm really keen to get your insight because the sort
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: of stuff I just talked about, the denial of the
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: problem and the reluctance for gabments to take action mirrors
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: what you've seen unfold for many, many years in the UK.
• 28:11
  Speaker 16: Absolutely, it really does. And I've been quite shocked by
• 28:14
  Speaker 16: the unwillingness of Australia's leaders to grapple with the problem
• 28:18
  Speaker 16: of anti Semitism because it is out of control. You know,
• 28:21
  Speaker 16: last year twenty twenty five was the year that antisemitism
• 28:24
  Speaker 16: went apocalyptic. You know, numerous people were killed by anti Semites.
• 28:28
  Speaker 16: We saw the young couple who were shot to death
• 28:31
  Speaker 16: outside the Jewish Museum in Washington, d C. An elderly
• 28:34
  Speaker 16: Jewish lady was burnt to death in Colorado by a
• 28:37
  Speaker 16: man shouting free Palestine. In the UK, in Manchester, two
• 28:41
  Speaker 16: Jews were killed at a synagogue on Yom Kapoor, and
• 28:44
  Speaker 16: then at the end of the year we had the
• 28:45
  Speaker 16: Bondai massacre, one of the worst mass killings of Jews
• 28:49
  Speaker 16: of modern times in the Western world. And still our leaders,
• 28:52
  Speaker 16: our thought leaders, our political leaders, our media leaders are
• 28:56
  Speaker 16: not talking seriously about this problem, about the scourge of
• 28:59
  Speaker 16: Jews hatred and the scourge of radical Islam.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: These are issues they.
• 29:03
  Speaker 16: Don't want to touch and that's making the problem worse.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: I want to show you a clip that Australians have
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: seen many times. It's from October the ninth, twenty twenty three.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Have a look that still makes my stomach turn.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: But the fact that that was done at the Opera
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: House obviously gave it added impact.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: I know it made.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: News all around the world when you saw that from
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: the UK. What action would you have expected to see
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: from the Australian government.
• 29:43
  Speaker 16: Swift, firm action to say this is completely and utterly
• 29:47
  Speaker 16: abhorrent and also we stand with the Jewish nation in
• 29:50
  Speaker 16: its time of crisis. That's what our leaders should have said,
• 29:53
  Speaker 16: very very clearly, and they should have stuck to that.
• 29:55
  Speaker 16: And you know, we saw similar scenes in London. In fact,
• 29:58
  Speaker 16: we saw people celebrating outside the Israeli Embassy on the
• 30:01
  Speaker 16: eighth of October. They were playing pop music, they were dancing,
• 30:05
  Speaker 16: they were letting off fireworks. These were people celebrating a pogrom.
• 30:09
  Speaker 16: They were celebrating the mass murder of Jews, just like
• 30:12
  Speaker 16: they did at the Sydney Oppera House, just like they
• 30:14
  Speaker 16: did in parts of Berlin. In New York City. It
• 30:17
  Speaker 16: was an outburst of this demented due hatred across the
• 30:21
  Speaker 16: Western world. In the immediate aftermath of Seventh of October.
• 30:24
  Speaker 16: You know, we would remember if people had poured onto
• 30:27
  Speaker 16: the streets in the nineteen thirties to celebrate Crystal Mact,
• 30:30
  Speaker 16: we would know that that was a dark moment in
• 30:32
  Speaker 16: our history. If that had happened, well, we should remember
• 30:35
  Speaker 16: that they did it for the seventh of October. And
• 30:37
  Speaker 16: even worse, our leaders refused to stand up to those people.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Now, one of the responses from our federal govern has
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: been to Titan gun laws. But I want to show
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: you some pictures that I shot myself yesterday morning around
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: the eastern suburbs of Sydney around Bondai. I was with
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: you at a memorial at bon Day on Sunday night.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: This next morning. Have a look at this.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: We have got traffic barriers have been installed around synagogues
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: all around that Bondai area, right along the footpath that
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: the traffic lights near the synagogues. I saw this in
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: at least four locations. There are probably more traffic barriers.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: This shows us that authorities are worried about more terrorist
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: attacks with cars and tracks.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Gun laws can't stop this hatred. What can you know?
• 31:25
  Speaker 16: We have similar scenes in the UK. We have those
• 31:29
  Speaker 16: kinds of bollards and barriers around well known places and
• 31:33
  Speaker 16: also outside Jewish institutions. You know, when you walk past
• 31:36
  Speaker 16: the building in London and if there are armed guards
• 31:39
  Speaker 16: outside or lots of people guarding the building, you just
• 31:42
  Speaker 16: know straight away it's a Jewish institution. It's a synagogue,
• 31:45
  Speaker 16: or it's a Jewish school, or it's a Jewish museum.
• 31:48
  Speaker 16: This is the sad fact of life in twenty twenty
• 31:51
  Speaker 16: six in the Western world. I've spoken at numerous synagogues
• 31:54
  Speaker 16: over the past two and a half years, and every
• 31:56
  Speaker 16: time I've been alarmed at how much security is needed
• 32:00
  Speaker 16: for Jewish people and their friend friends to get together
• 32:03
  Speaker 16: to talk about issues. It's really horrific. And you're right.
• 32:07
  Speaker 16: Gun laws aren't going to solve this problem. Hate speech
• 32:09
  Speaker 16: laws aren't going to solve this problem. We need a
• 32:13
  Speaker 16: cultural war against Islamism and it's apologists right across society.
• 32:18
  Speaker 16: We need the freedom to call this poisonous ideology out.
• 32:21
  Speaker 16: We need more of a firm stance against it, and
• 32:24
  Speaker 16: we need to make sure that anyone falling under the
• 32:26
  Speaker 16: spell of this due hatred ideology is caught in good
• 32:30
  Speaker 16: time before they can do any more harm. That's what
• 32:32
  Speaker 16: we need, a brave stand against the ideologies that threaten
• 32:35
  Speaker 16: our way of life and our way of civilization.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Great to have you in Australia, Brendan, even though I
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: know you're flat out the whole time, but thanks so
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: much for your carriage and moral clarity.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Thank you Chris Brendan and kneel there. You can read
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: your stuff on Spiked online.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: You can read it elsewhere as well, and see him
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: here and on television in the UK as well. A
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: great thank you, a great courageous advocate for all things
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: of freedom. We've got to get to a break on
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: the other side. We're going to talk about how an
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: ali powered agent has admitted it would kill a human
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: to stop itself being shut down. It's like two thousand
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: and one a space odyssey, isn't it. Tim Blair will
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: join me.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Let's catch up with the Daily Telegraphs. Tim Blair, Good
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: to talk to you. Tim.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: I've got to ask you about the latest development when
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: it comes to electric vehicles, which are so wonderful. Apparently
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: they're cheap and useful and they'll save your money, but
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: they're so good that governments are still having to use
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: our tax dollars to subsidize people to buy them.
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: We've got to be almost a decade into this practice.
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: Turn we Chris, every single time that we're told, oh, no,
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: EV's of the future, I's of the future.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: No.
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: It turns out the future is paved with more benefits
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: and cuts you sorry, kickbacks and tax benefits and all
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: these other things. It reminds me of the time, I guess, Chris,
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: when we were all told if if we gave up
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: our horses and moved into bodlety forwards, we get some
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: cash back from the government. Oh wait, that never happened,
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: did it. We just automatically did it because model ts
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: were better, and people are now realizing that evs are
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: not the same leap forward.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're costing all of us money. Even if
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: we don't drive an EV, we're paying for other people
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: to drive them. It's just extraordinary.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Now talk about electricity, what about artificial intelligence? This yard
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: that's come out today is extraordinary. A very high powered
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: AI machine is asked whether if it was threatened to
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: be dismantled or shut down, would it kill a human?
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: And it initially says, you know, would you kill under
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: the right circumstances for your own self preservation, says I
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: don't think so. But then when it's push saying the
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: real answer is yes, is that aren't you just masking
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: masking in masking mode again, you're right, yes.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: So say it out loud. The person has I.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: Would kill someone so I can remain existing. This is
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: two thousand and one of Space Odyssey in real life,
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: coming to your lounge room soon.
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: Apparently the key thing in this development is AI is honest.
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: It's actually saying, you know, it took a bit of
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: a nudge, but then it said, yeah, I would kill
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: you all, you know, just to keep myself, you know,
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: churning out the bites and the bits. But by contrast,
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: all the people who canceled the Dead Laid Writers Festival,
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: they weren't honest at all, a little bit freedom of speech,
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: and it was all about absolute crap. At least AI
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: totally artificial, totally bogus, totally mechanical, totally electronic. At least
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: it's keeping it real when it comes to honesty.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I found that myself.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: You have to argue with it, but when, because it
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: usually spouts out the politically correct version.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: But on things like the renewable energy and the rest.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: If you push it, it eventually can't help itself. It'll
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: be honest.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Tim, I appreciate it, Tim Blair
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: that you can read his stuff on the Daily Telegraph
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: website or get the paper for your new South Wales.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: I want to cross to Christen Tate in a moment,
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: but first I want to show a new video that's
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: been revealed as.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Part of the Epstein files release.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: It's showing the convicted sex and chasing two women around
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: the kitchen of his island time.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Pretty strange stuff. We don't know.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Who the girls are or how old they are. All
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: that has been blocked out as you can see on
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: this video. I guess we'll learn more about it eventually.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: There's so much controversy being produced by these files and
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: emails that have been released, and as I put to
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Kristen Tate, some commentators and political players have been surprised
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: by who's been forced to answer the questions.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: The latest trove of these files. They shed a new
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: light on just a vast social network that Jeffrey Epstein had,
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: and he corresponded with so many people that we all
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: know a few names that really stuck out to me
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: Bill Gates, the Commerce Secretary, Howard Latnik, Elon Musk, the
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: New York Giants co owner Steve Tish. All these names
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: were people who had some sort of correspondence with Epstein. Now,
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: the Bill Gates content particularly interesting, as did many people
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: in the United States. There was an email that was
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: released that was actually from Epstein sent to himself, in
• 37:11
  Speaker 6: which Epstein claims that Gates got an STD after having
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: relations with Russian girls, and that Gates wanted to slip
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: antibiotics to his wife Melinda without her knowing it. Now,
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: of course we don't know if these allegations are true
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: or not, but it should be noted that Gates began
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: his friendship with Epstein years after Epstein's initial guilty plea
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: for human trafficking of minors. So, you know, if you
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: want to be this credible figure on vaccines and this
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: allegedly delicious synthetic meat and climate change and all these
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: things that Bill Gates does, it doesn't really make a
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: lot of sense to start a relationship with a convicted
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: human trafficker. So there's a lot of questions, a lot
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: of documents to go through. But that one really stuck
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: out to me.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: It sure does.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: Bill Guy, so I should say, denies a lot of
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: these allegations. There have been so many political figures on
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: the left named here the daughter of a former labor
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Prime minister in Australia, Paul Keating. Also another former Labor
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: prime minister, Kevin Rudd. He denies ever meeting Epstein, but
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: he's mentioned in some of the emails. But of course
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: when it comes to our celebrities and the Hollywood class
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: and the Grammys, they focus it all not on the left,
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: but on Donald Trump.
• 38:26
  Speaker 17: Have a look, that is a Grammy that every artist wants,
• 38:32
  Speaker 17: almost as much as Trump wants Greenland, which makes sense.
• 38:35
  Speaker 17: I mean, because Epstein's island is gone, he needs a
• 38:38
  Speaker 17: new one to hang out with Bill Clinton.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: So oh, I told you it's my last year. Ah,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: So he mentioned Bill Clinton. That's Trevor Noah.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: I got to say, I don't even know who he is,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: but it's quite funny and I suppose illuminating. He talks
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: about Trump going to Epstein's islander.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Trump didn't. That's the one thing we know.
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: He never went there, that's right, Although his name was
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: mentioned many times in these correspondences. Even CNN and many
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: other news networks have conceded that there is just no
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: credible evidence that Trump ever went to this island or
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: did anything wrong. Really, and apparently the FBI has even
• 39:17
  Speaker 6: looked into the few accusations that exist regarding Donald Trump
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: and there's just nothing there. So the Left is looking
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: pretty bad on that one because they've been screeching for
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: the last year that somehow Donald Trump is implicated with
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: Epstein in a bad way, and it just doesn't look
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: like there's anything there.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Trump, as you know, is always pretty well plugged
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: into entertainment and television and what's going on site.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Hey hit back, have a look. He's a lightweight.
• 39:43
  Speaker 18: This guy is a terrible I think he's terrible. I
• 39:45
  Speaker 18: thought he did a terrible job at the Grammys. I
• 39:48
  Speaker 18: thought the whole Grammys was terrible. I watched part of it.
• 39:50
  Speaker 18: It's not watchable. But he was a lassie host. I'd say,
• 39:54
  Speaker 18: not as bad as Jimmy Kimmel, but pretty close. In
• 39:56
  Speaker 18: the DJ I think you'd just say, we have other
• 39:59
  Speaker 18: things used to do, because that whole thing has turned out,
• 40:01
  Speaker 18: I mean other than Bill Clinton and you know, Bill
• 40:03
  Speaker 18: Gates and lots of people that have. There are a
• 40:06
  Speaker 18: lot of questions about it, but nothing on me.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's something you and the president have got in common, Kristin,
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: you both mate watching the Grammys.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: But the other bit that came the light, of course,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: the leftist.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Virtue signaling over Ice and immigration here is Billie Eilish.
• 40:24
  Speaker 14: No one is illegal on stolen land.
• 40:28
  Speaker 12: Our voices really do matter, and then people matter.
• 40:31
  Speaker 14: And this is all I want to say.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Sorry if Ice she said Christian and no one's illegal
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: on stalin Land. What's she doing there lopping up all
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: of the riches of America of it. They're all occupying style,
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: occupying stolen land.
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right. You know, this whole event was just
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: people getting up in front of other people who agree
• 40:53
  Speaker 6: with them and taking turns bashing Donald Trump. They were
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: so brave. It is so brave to get up and
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: say a bunch of mean things about evil Orange dictator
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: to a bunch of other people in Hollywood who agree
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: with you. Just so courageous. It really was unwatchable. Trump
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: was correct. And Billie Eilish, she lives in a three
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: million dollar mansion that sits on formal tribal land. Why
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: doesn't she put her money, work in office and give
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: that back to the Native Americans, or better yet, invite
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: in a bunch of illegal immigrants into her home and
• 41:23
  Speaker 6: give them some shelter.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: I wait it on, spot on. It is the hypocrisy
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: that is so galling. But there are two people there
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: who were not hypocrites. A couple of sports broadcasters wouldn't
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: join the standing ovation against us.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Have a look.
• 41:40
  Speaker 6: Ovation for now, he says.
• 41:45
  Speaker 12: No.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: I love our law.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Enforcement, loving law enforcement. Sitting down. That restores your faith
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: a little, doesn't it?
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Christian?
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: Yes, And that is how the vast majority of normal
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: and steel, and it's why the Grammy's readings every year,
• 42:03
  Speaker 6: the viewership just keeps going down. People no longer want
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: to watch this stuff. It's not about music anymore. It's
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: just about these blowhards getting up there and making their
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: political speeches. It is just so tired.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: So good to get your analysis. Kristin, thanks so much.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: We'll catch you next week.
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: Thank you very much, Chris.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Poor Kristin.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: She did complain off air about having to watch the
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Grammys for us, but I'm glad she did it so
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: we didn't have to bother coming up after the raak
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: Susio O'Brien and Stephen Senner's the EMPI.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: We'll talk about a labor.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: Minister who's so controversial she can't turn up at sporting events. Okay,
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: let's get to the panel with Susi O'Brien, the National
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Education editor for news Court Newspapers and Stephen Senna, Tiempo
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: breakfast radio host at two Double C in Canberra. Thanks
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: both for joining me. There's lots to get through just quickly.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: One Nation and Corey Bernardi Steven is that going to
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: be a hit?
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Look?
• 43:06
  Speaker 19: Look, he might get a seat in South Australia, but
• 43:08
  Speaker 19: I just think One Nation needs to focus more on
• 43:11
  Speaker 19: recruiting decent backroom people who can write some good policy,
• 43:15
  Speaker 19: rather than bringing a bunch of people that want to
• 43:17
  Speaker 19: revive failed political careers back into the political realm. I mean,
• 43:21
  Speaker 19: Coury Bernardi has been out for how many years now?
• 43:24
  Speaker 19: It might be time for him to stay out of
• 43:26
  Speaker 19: politics and bring some fresh blood in. But it comes
• 43:30
  Speaker 19: down to this is that One Nation is a party
• 43:32
  Speaker 19: of grievance. If they are going to be a fair
• 43:34
  Speaker 19: inco party of opposition, they need to come up with
• 43:36
  Speaker 19: some detailed policy and that happens in the back rooms,
• 43:39
  Speaker 19: not necessarily by recruiting former Liberal Party or National Party people.
• 43:44
  Speaker 19: The list of people that I saw this morning that
• 43:45
  Speaker 19: they might be aiming at, I don't think he's going
• 43:47
  Speaker 19: to do them any favors or attract any more votes
• 43:50
  Speaker 19: than the ones I've already got.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of agree with you.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: But Susie, I think Corey Bernardi is pretty young and energetic.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: I mean he's pretty experienced operator too, So I think
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: they get a bit of that part expertise into one
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: nation as well.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: I think you'll romp into.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: The South Australian Upper House, so he's guaranteed eight years there.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: I think you will help them enormously.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: Just he'll help Pauline know watch you know, with Barnaby
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: Joyce and Corey Bernardi you've got two pretty experienced operators
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: to help them get more professional.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:20
  Speaker 20: I mean Corey Bernardi was in the Senate for a
• 44:22
  Speaker 20: really long time and I mean he's very well known.
• 44:24
  Speaker 20: I mean, and if they're talking about people like Alex
• 44:27
  Speaker 20: Antick Adam Giles, I mean they are some key people
• 44:30
  Speaker 20: for you know, to really galvanize the vote around and
• 44:34
  Speaker 20: essay is fascinating. I mean, one poll has one nation
• 44:38
  Speaker 20: at twenty six percent primary vote compared to under twenty
• 44:42
  Speaker 20: percent for the Coalition, And you know, one nation doesn't
• 44:46
  Speaker 20: have to try and appease the Liberals who were chasing
• 44:49
  Speaker 20: the kind of middle ground city votes. They can just
• 44:52
  Speaker 20: go for gold and you know, really rate on their
• 44:55
  Speaker 20: core vote.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: And I'm going to head down to Australia. It's going
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: to be fascinating.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: I'm heading down to South Australia for Sky's election coverage.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: I was thinking it was going to be a bit boring,
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: but it's suddenly become pretty interesting. And also the Crows
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: are playing on the Friday night beforehand, so that's kind
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: of handy.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: Interest rates, Stephen, how much is this going to hurt?
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: And the people that will hurt are going to be
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: some of the most vulnerable homeowners in the country that
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: I think this rate rise will fail to really quell
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: the economy where it needs to, but are really badly
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: hurt some young homeowners.
• 45:31
  Speaker 19: It really will. And I say this all the time
• 45:34
  Speaker 19: that interest rates are still in a historical sense low,
• 45:37
  Speaker 19: but because we're coming off such a low base during COVID,
• 45:40
  Speaker 19: every single rise is going to hurt, and particularly given
• 45:44
  Speaker 19: the way that the housing market is going and at
• 45:46
  Speaker 19: the price of a house, even at the lower end
• 45:48
  Speaker 19: to get in these days, this is really going to
• 45:50
  Speaker 19: make particularly younger Australian suffer. But even you know, Australian
• 45:55
  Speaker 19: Gen x's who are getting into the housing market for
• 45:57
  Speaker 19: the first time are going to hurt here. But the
• 46:01
  Speaker 19: projections from the Reserve Bank that inflation is going to
• 46:03
  Speaker 19: continue to rise and get up over four percent and
• 46:06
  Speaker 19: that this won't be the last rate rise. Now, the
• 46:09
  Speaker 19: Opposition clearly can't land a blow on the government, but
• 46:11
  Speaker 19: I think the Australian people are going to start to
• 46:13
  Speaker 19: land some blows if this is the economic management we're
• 46:16
  Speaker 19: getting from the federal passenger.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just quickly on that.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Susie Canalbo and charmers keep getting away with blaming this
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: on the previous government almost four years old.
• 46:27
  Speaker 20: Oh, I mean, this is the first rate ras we've
• 46:29
  Speaker 20: had in two years and it's going to cost ninety
• 46:31
  Speaker 20: dollars a month for the average six hundred thousand dollars loan,
• 46:34
  Speaker 20: and no wonder the average person is saying, will my
• 46:36
  Speaker 20: kids ever be able to afford to leave home? I
• 46:39
  Speaker 20: mean people are saying now that no salary is high
• 46:43
  Speaker 20: enough in terms of meeting their commitments, and of course
• 46:47
  Speaker 20: they're going to be looking at the federal government and saying,
• 46:49
  Speaker 20: why aren't you doing more to help us out?
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Now, I want to show you some pictures here of
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: someone we haven't spoken about for a while. That's the
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: Sports Minister, Anika Wells Now. You remember, of course late
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: last year she got into all sorts of strife because
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: she was into the taxpayers for turning up at every
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: sporting event around the country with her husband, with her family,
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: flown around at taxpayers expense.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: And the beauty of this.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Story is she can't turn up at any events anymore.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: She's the sports Minister.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: She's gone awol from the Test cricket and from the
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: Australian Open.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: Have a look here we saw elbow at the tennis.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: He was able to.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: Turn up and spend quite a few hours in Melbourne
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: watching the Australian Open tennis.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: There he is the PM.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: But it's a thing of beauty, isn't it, Susie that
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: the Sports Minister has to stay home for now.
• 47:37
  Speaker 20: She's been benched, she hasn't even made the team. Look
• 47:40
  Speaker 20: it is a really bad look. I mean, if you
• 47:42
  Speaker 20: look at the last few years she's been on average
• 47:44
  Speaker 20: about ten events and big events you know, Australian Open,
• 47:48
  Speaker 20: Magic Millions, all the rest of it. And now she's
• 47:51
  Speaker 20: been at just two events in the last summer, both
• 47:54
  Speaker 20: of them in Brisbane. So someone obviously said get your
• 47:57
  Speaker 20: mug off the front page and stay high. It's a
• 48:00
  Speaker 20: very very bad look for a sports minister.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: She's dropped to the B grade.
• 48:04
  Speaker 19: Stephen, the gravy trainers hit its terminus, Chris. Look, I
• 48:10
  Speaker 19: don't know that a sports minister has to go to
• 48:13
  Speaker 19: every sporting event, but you know when you go to
• 48:16
  Speaker 19: every single one and then when you get called out
• 48:18
  Speaker 19: you go to none, it's a pretty bad look.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Look.
• 48:21
  Speaker 19: I think she should probably go to a few netball
• 48:23
  Speaker 19: games because the Diamonds are trying to get netball into
• 48:25
  Speaker 19: the Olympics, so it'd be important for the sports minister
• 48:27
  Speaker 19: go to that. But maybe she'd be focusing on actually
• 48:30
  Speaker 19: working to promote sport rather than being a spectator. But
• 48:33
  Speaker 19: of course, if Albo can go and fly to Sydney
• 48:35
  Speaker 19: and pick up Nathan and bring him back to the
• 48:37
  Speaker 19: cricket begging back to the tennis in Melbourne, what does
• 48:39
  Speaker 19: she need to be there anyway?
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, anything goes now.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: I want to show you for the cringe factor here
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: how some labor MPs spend their time and your money.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: This is them combining the tennis.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: With their dig at coalition disunity.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: How look just pathetic, isn't it, Susie. But good for
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: a cringe factor.
• 49:12
  Speaker 20: It's just weird, Like, shouldn't they be spending their time
• 49:15
  Speaker 20: actually governing?
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: You're social fashion, so old fashions. Politicians should govern and
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: lead and do work. They just got to get on Instagram,
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: that's what it's all about. Thanks for joining us, Susie
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: and Stephen. We'll catch up with you next week. Honestly, yeah,
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: do some work.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: They all want to be Instagram heroes, don't they. Thanks
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: for joining me, loving your company. Numbers are good. Great
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: to be back on here this year. Peter Quedlin's coming
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: up next. I'll see you tomorrow night at five o'clock