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Inside The Tape With Greg Cosell: New Philadelphia Eagles EDGE Jaelan Phillips "Is Big And Physical ... A Natural Pass Rusher" · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to another episode of Inside the Tape. On
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  Speaker 1: Inside the Birds, it's Jeff Mosher Adam Kaplan and of
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  Speaker 1: course it is our tape breakdown master Greg Cosell. And
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles keep Greg busy and dig it into the
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  Speaker 1: tape because they've made even more moves since the last
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  Speaker 1: time we did an episode. They made a trade to
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  Speaker 1: get Jalen Phillips from the Miami Dolphins and edge rusher.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get into that.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get Greg's tape breakdown, and then real quick, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because the Eagles play the Packers next. We'll get it
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  Speaker 1: a little bit into the Packers' offense and why they're
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  Speaker 1: so checkle on high at times, and Greg has some
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  Speaker 1: tape observations on the Packers' offense. We won't go too
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  Speaker 1: much because we got a pregame show later in the week,
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  Speaker 1: but we will give you a little We'll wet the
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  Speaker 1: appetite a little bit for Eagles Packers on Monday night.
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  Speaker 1: So Greg, it's no stranger any of us are to
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles making as many moves as poss well. They
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  Speaker 1: bring in Jalen Phillips. You've watched some Dolphins safe you
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  Speaker 1: know about Phillips. I'm sure you studied them coming out
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  Speaker 1: of college.
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  Speaker 3: I did. What do you think, Well, he was my
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  Speaker 3: favorite edge player coming out of college. Oh really, So
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  Speaker 3: I really liked Jalen Phillips. You know, he he's a
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  Speaker 3: fascinating guy because when he came out of high school
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  Speaker 3: in California and went to UCLA, initially he was the
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  Speaker 3: number one recruited player in the country, not just in
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  Speaker 3: his position, but in the country. He's a freak at
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  Speaker 3: you know, for a high school player. And then he
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  Speaker 3: left football for a year. I think that was it
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  Speaker 3: concussion based or something happened, and he chose to leave
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  Speaker 3: football for a year and then ended up at the
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  Speaker 3: U and started to really show the trades that made
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  Speaker 3: him the number one recruited player in the country. And
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  Speaker 3: I thought he was the best edge player in a
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  Speaker 3: draft class that did not have a lot of great
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  Speaker 3: edge players, if I recall, but I thought he was
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  Speaker 3: the best one. Now, before he had the knee injury.
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  Speaker 3: It was a knee injury, right or was it a kill?
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  Speaker 1: He had achilles and he well I was going to
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  Speaker 1: say he's got both he's got an achilles.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he was. I thought he was on his
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  Speaker 3: way to being one of the better, more dominant type
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  Speaker 3: edge players in the game. He flashed big time traits.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you're dealing with a guy that's that's sixty
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  Speaker 3: five to sixty five. He's not. He's not one of
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  Speaker 3: those you know, two hundred and forty pound guys. He's
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  Speaker 3: a legit big guy. I don't think he's quite the
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  Speaker 3: same player he was, but I think he still is
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  Speaker 3: capable of rushing the quarterback. And in Miami, I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if the Eagles would see him this way. There
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  Speaker 3: were third down and pure pass rush situation snaps where
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  Speaker 3: he lined up inside, So I don't know. Again, you know,
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  Speaker 3: we really have no idea. Obviously, they're looking for pass
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  Speaker 3: rush because they don't really have an edge pass rush,
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  Speaker 3: and I would think that's the reason they made the trade. Look,
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  Speaker 3: I know they still have two third round picks in
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  Speaker 3: the twenty twenty sixth draft, but they did give up
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  Speaker 3: a third round pick. Third round pick is not a
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  Speaker 3: throwaway pick, no, So so they believe he can. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: and obviously he's gonna play next you know, next week
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  Speaker 3: against Green Bay on Monday Night, because he's been playing
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  Speaker 3: all along. He's not injured, so you know, the number
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  Speaker 3: of snaps he plays, We have no idea, but you know, look,
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  Speaker 3: it was pretty obvious to everybody that they need they
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  Speaker 3: need edge rush. You know, we don't know about Nolan Smith.
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  Speaker 3: You know when I guess he's due back in a
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  Speaker 3: couple of weeks, give or take, but you might take
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  Speaker 3: time for him to ramp up. You know, he's been out. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and who knows if he'll be the same player. We
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  Speaker 3: don't know the answer to that. So they need edge
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  Speaker 3: pass rush and that's why the trade was made.
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  Speaker 4: Greg on Jaylen flips like this year, the pressure numbers
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  Speaker 4: are solid, right, but give us from a trade standpo, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: you told you know he's a big guy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, what what's the talent there? Is?
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  Speaker 5: He a speed rusher? Power?
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  Speaker 3: For me? Let me go back. What year did he
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  Speaker 3: come out? Twenty one? Yeah, I'm going to go back
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  Speaker 3: to my notes because I remember really really liking him
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  Speaker 3: and thinking, wow, this kid's this kid's got a real
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  Speaker 3: chance to be a player. So all right, I said,
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  Speaker 3: his twenty twenty tape showed all the traits and attributes
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  Speaker 3: you look for in an edge defender. By the way,
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  Speaker 3: he was six five and a half two sixty at
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  Speaker 3: the Combine Wow with thirty three in a quarter in Charms.
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  Speaker 3: I said, size, length, athleticism, suddenness, explosiveness, flexibility, power, balance, competitiveness.
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  Speaker 3: He checks all the athletic and physical boxes to play
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  Speaker 3: on the edge in the NFL and be a strong
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  Speaker 3: and potentially elite edge pass rusher with joker attributes. I said,
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  Speaker 3: what consistently stood out watching his college tape was his
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  Speaker 3: suddenness and his balance. He was twitchy with elite movement
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  Speaker 3: and change the direction traits, and he was rarely on
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  Speaker 3: the ground, and those two attributes resulted in Phillips being
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  Speaker 3: an impact player versus both run and pass. I finished
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  Speaker 3: by saying, he is the most explosive edge player in
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  Speaker 3: the twenty twenty one draft class. So I loved him
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  Speaker 3: coming out, and I thought he was moving in that
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  Speaker 3: direction before the injuries derel him.
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  Speaker 1: It sounds like Greg based on your description of him,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm curious also with his time with the Dolphins
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  Speaker 1: if you recall that he's a player that can be
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  Speaker 1: used as a looper, as a stunter twist game. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: Eagles are are doing a little bit more of and
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  Speaker 1: we talked during the bye week with you.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, how that might be beneficial to their defense.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I mean because he's a flexible athlete. Now, like
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  Speaker 3: I said, I don't you know when you have an
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  Speaker 3: ACL and an achilles, and Achilles is a really hard injury.
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  Speaker 3: I mean ACLS nowadays. I'm certainly not a doctor, but
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  Speaker 3: it's evident that ACLS guys come back from you know. Now,
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  Speaker 3: they obviously sit out for whatever it is, ten months,
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  Speaker 3: eleven months, but they do come back from ACLS. It's
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  Speaker 3: not like you know, thirty forty years ago, where it
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  Speaker 3: just could end a guy's career. You know, But an
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  Speaker 3: Achilles is a tough injury. I mean, so you know,
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  Speaker 3: is he as explosive, Probably not, but he's still I
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  Speaker 3: think because he's he's big and physical, so it's not
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  Speaker 3: as if he just had to rely on flexibility and
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  Speaker 3: ben he is a big, a big guy who does
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  Speaker 3: have some explosive power traits to him.
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  Speaker 1: Right, How would you compare his skill set to what
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles have in Jallex Hunt and in Nolan Smith
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  Speaker 1: as pass rushers.
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  Speaker 3: Well, he's a better pass rusher than both those guys
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  Speaker 3: just in terms of being you know, the guy's been
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  Speaker 3: a pass rusher his whole life, right, you know Nolan Smith.
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  Speaker 3: Nolan Smith, Yes and no. I mean he's always been light,
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  Speaker 3: so even though he's been used on the edge throughout
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  Speaker 3: his career, he's not truly a pass rusher the way
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  Speaker 3: you think of NFL pass rushers. He's developing as time.
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  Speaker 3: He certainly played well down the stretch last year, but
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  Speaker 3: he had to develop how to rush the quarterback at
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  Speaker 3: the NFL level. Jalx Hunt has never rushed the quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: He's learning as a pro. That's a hard thing to
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  Speaker 3: do and it takes time. He certainly has the size
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  Speaker 3: and the athletic movement to one day develop into that.
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  Speaker 3: And my guess is he's making progress, but he's by
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  Speaker 3: no means a natural pass rusher. Jalen Phillips is a
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  Speaker 3: natural pass rusher, and his lanth Jeff is.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you look at if you're putting an edtructure together,
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  Speaker 4: this is the prototype.
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  Speaker 3: That's what that Jalen Phillips looks like. That guy.
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  Speaker 4: It's yeah, it's one of those things, like Greg was
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  Speaker 4: talking about it before the onset of the two injuries.
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  Speaker 4: You're looking at a guy who stealing was super high,
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  Speaker 4: super high and he was going to be one of
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  Speaker 4: those guys, and good for him though, by the way,
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  Speaker 4: he hasn't missed the game this season. The ironic part
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  Speaker 4: about people talk about, oh, he's injury prone, Well, guess what,
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  Speaker 4: he didn't miss the game in the first two seasons.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, those two major injuries. One of them.
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  Speaker 5: Where do you think, what have happened against the Jets
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  Speaker 5: like stadium? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so, but he does have as Greg mentioned, the
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  Speaker 1: history of concussions in college. He also had a moped
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  Speaker 1: accident I believe while he was in college where I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if that's what, but he had a fractured risk.
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  Speaker 2: From something that might have been that.
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  Speaker 1: So he's he's had his share of wear and tear.
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  Speaker 2: I think you're right, and you have.
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  Speaker 3: Because he's only twenty six years old, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so he's not old. And again, obviously he's in the
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  Speaker 3: last year of his contract. We're not worried at this
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  Speaker 3: very moment what the Eagles see down the road. They
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  Speaker 3: need pass rush for this year and they want to
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  Speaker 3: get back to the super Bowl. But assuming that he
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  Speaker 3: comes in and plays well, they could certainly consider signing
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  Speaker 3: him to a longer term deal. From what I understand
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  Speaker 3: because I know people that know him, he's supposed to
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  Speaker 3: be a really good guy. Yes, you know, in all ways,
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  Speaker 3: you know, so he fits. You know, the Eagles like
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  Speaker 3: to believe that they don't, you know, sign bad guys
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  Speaker 3: for the most part. You know, there's always an exception
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  Speaker 3: here or there, you know, every team because not you know,
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  Speaker 3: we're not going to choir practice, so there's always going
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  Speaker 3: to be an exception, you know. But he's supposed to
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  Speaker 3: be a really good guy.
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  Speaker 1: So so let's let's take it this way, because what
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  Speaker 1: I find really interesting about him, Greg, is you were
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  Speaker 1: mentioning his twenty twenty three season was very good.
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  Speaker 2: I believe he.
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  Speaker 1: Had what eight and a half sacks that year, if
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  Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, in or six and a half in
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  Speaker 1: eight games, right next to like twelve or thirteen.
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  Speaker 2: That was when Vic Fangio was their coordinator.
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  Speaker 3: Correct Vic.
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  Speaker 2: Also, he was playing on a line that had Christian Wilkins.
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  Speaker 1: Who had nine sacks this year and was a very
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  Speaker 1: good player that year. So I wonder, coming over to
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  Speaker 1: this same defense that he's familiar with, playing with a
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  Speaker 1: guy like Jayalen Carter, who's gonna occupy a lot of
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  Speaker 1: double teams will start to bring him back to the players.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of the question is, is we start to talk tactics,
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  Speaker 3: you know, as we see more often than not and Carter.
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  Speaker 3: Word I'm getting is that Carter's healthier now than he's
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  Speaker 3: ever been this season, and you know, everybody believes, even
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  Speaker 3: in the building, that his play has been uneven this year,
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  Speaker 3: which the tape tells you that it's been uneven. You know,
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  Speaker 3: so that's the reality, that's the tape. You know, the
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  Speaker 3: eye in this guy doesn't lie. Well, let's assume Carter
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  Speaker 3: can get back to being you know, even ninety ninety
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  Speaker 3: five percent Carter. Then the question is, since we've seen
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  Speaker 3: teams for the most part slide their center to Carter,
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  Speaker 3: so do we line up Phillips opposite Carter and then
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  Speaker 3: he gets the one on one matchup with the tackle
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  Speaker 3: or of force the offense if they so choose to
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  Speaker 3: chip them to keep someone in, which then starts to
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  Speaker 3: limit their past their their past game concepts. So you know,
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  Speaker 3: we'll see how it all plays out. But you, Adam
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  Speaker 3: hit it right on the head. When you look at Phillips,
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  Speaker 3: you see a guy that just looks like an inch
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  Speaker 3: pass Rusher and and Vic Fanjo knows him, so you know,
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  Speaker 3: obviously I'm sure Vic had a lot to do with
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  Speaker 3: you know, once it became evident that that there might
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  Speaker 3: be a fight or sale in Miami, we'll see what
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  Speaker 3: else happens in the next twenty four hours. Then you know,
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  Speaker 3: the Eagles decided to research it and it came to fruition.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, Vic certainly knows him, and there's no
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  Speaker 3: there's no problem with Phillips, you know, playing hard every snap.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, he's not you know, he plays. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: he's one of those guys.
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  Speaker 4: Jeff's interesting once they get BG and there will have
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  Speaker 4: to obviously have to see what he's got left and
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  Speaker 4: Olan Smith and Hunt and and Phillips, and we've seen
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  Speaker 4: not that he's going to need to play anymore. Patrick
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  Speaker 4: Johnson probably won't be in the rotation, but he's given
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  Speaker 4: them some good snaps. This here in Uche This is
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  Speaker 4: interesting with him because he showed you could still play.
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  Speaker 4: Now you talk about depth, that's what they've needed in quality.
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  Speaker 3: Somebody doesn't somebody need to get cut.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, that's going to have to happen. There will be
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  Speaker 2: more than one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well they put two guys on, right, but they
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  Speaker 1: still have to activate a couple of guys.
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  Speaker 3: So right, I mean has been put on IR? Who's
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  Speaker 3: the other?
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  Speaker 2: It was Ojelari and uh like and I think of
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  Speaker 2: who else went on IR?
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  Speaker 3: Apps? Apps?
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  Speaker 2: Ops?
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  Speaker 5: Mark second?
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  Speaker 3: Right, Well he's he's not a path rusher, so no, no, no,
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  Speaker 3: But which about Roster Mos? Yes?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So what will be really interesting, fellas is over the
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  Speaker 1: next two or three weeks as Jalen starts to play
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  Speaker 1: and we see what this pass rush looks like. Was
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  Speaker 1: this move also made with the intent of allowing VIC
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  Speaker 1: to go back to playing a lot of zone and
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  Speaker 1: hoping that the fore man rush gets home because that's
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  Speaker 1: where they really made their money last year.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody remembers the Super Bowl. No blitz is VIC has been.
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  Speaker 1: As Greg has pointed out on this show, many times
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  Speaker 1: blitzeymore playing way more man coverage and at times they
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  Speaker 1: were able to get away with it when it was
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  Speaker 1: Carson Wentz and Jackson Dart at times, and we're not
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  Speaker 1: getting away with it. Cornerback number two was exposed. So
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  Speaker 1: if there's not going to be any more upgrades at
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  Speaker 1: cornerback two, you would think that it would help if
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  Speaker 1: VIC could just rely on a four man rush to
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  Speaker 1: get home and keep a maximum number of guys in coverage.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think that's the goal, the objective. Until we
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  Speaker 3: see it, we don't know, right And obviously in the
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  Speaker 3: next two game teams they're going to play teams that
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  Speaker 3: will test that significantly, with the Packers and the Lions.
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  Speaker 3: So we're going to see because you know, in an
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  Speaker 3: ideal world, you know, And at this point, we don't
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  Speaker 3: know about Jarry Alexander, you know, And clearly they would
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  Speaker 3: like him to be ready to play at some point
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  Speaker 3: sooner than later and be the corner opposite Queenyon Mitchell
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  Speaker 3: because Jarry Alexander at his best is a higher quality
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  Speaker 3: NFL corner. The problem is he's been injured so much.
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  Speaker 3: It's hard to know at this point what he is.
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  Speaker 3: But there were a couple of years there where you
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  Speaker 3: would you might have said he was a top three
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  Speaker 3: to fourth corner in the league, you know, but we
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  Speaker 3: don't know that. You just don't know, you know, And
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  Speaker 3: he's a swagger guy. Too. I mean, he's one of
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  Speaker 3: those feisty, super competitive guys. You know, he brings a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of being, you know, an a hole, so
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  Speaker 3: to speak. But you like that at the corner position.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, don't forget.
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  Speaker 1: They've still got ja Corean Bennett to take a look
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  Speaker 1: at him, right right, even a fourth round pick for
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  Speaker 1: him the post, which is also not.
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  Speaker 3: A throwaway pick, you know. So so so we'll see.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think Alexander is a fascinating player sort
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  Speaker 3: of in this puzzle that they're trying to put together
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  Speaker 3: on defense. You know, I don't know. Adam could certainly
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  Speaker 3: speak to this way better than I could. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know the situation in Baltimore why he didn't play.
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  Speaker 3: Was it injury? Was it? You know, Adam, you can
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  Speaker 3: speak conditioning.
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  Speaker 5: They it got to.
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  Speaker 4: The point it's just kind of odd because, as you know, Greg,
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  Speaker 4: there wasn't dire straight to the corner that they were
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  Speaker 4: almost the top four corners are almost all out at
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  Speaker 4: one point, and they wouldn't play.
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  Speaker 5: Him, right, Just let's okay, we'll see what he looks like.
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  Speaker 4: But going back now, you talk about at one point
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  Speaker 4: he was just the top three player corner right, okay,
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  Speaker 4: swagger both attributes, man coverage, zone, hands play both he
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  Speaker 4: can okay, So so yeah, what what are the what
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: kind of traces did you see?
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: Abillity to track the ball? Like? What do you love about?
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: Oh, he's he's one of those guys that has really
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: good quickness. I mean he's got loose hips, he's quick,
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: he's explosive. He can play off coverage really well because
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: he can plant and drive. He had speed to run
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: with routes. No, he was healthy in his prime. He
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: was a big time corner without question. It's just it's
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: been I don't know the last year he was totally healthy.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: I didn't look that up, but it seems like it's
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: been a while.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, didn't you also play nicol like inside slot for
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: the Packers of times that?
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: Uh, maybe two years ago?
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: I thought, you know, for some reason, I don't remember that.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: I definitely remember him playing outside. I'm not saying you're wrong,
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: I just don't remember.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: I think there was one year in particular where maybe
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: they had some issues there.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, maybe he was still truly injured.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: You know. Chuck Pagano now works with the DBS. He's
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: a dB coaching, and he really likes Alexander, so there
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: must be something, you know, it's I don't think it's
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: it's like he's a bad guy kind of thing. I
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: think that maybe he was still injured, whatever the reason,
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: they weren't playing him in Baltimore. But I don't think
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: the Eagles would have made that trade. And for him,
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: they didn't give up as much obviously, but I don't
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: think they would have made that trade if he's gonna
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: be on the shelf for the next month, you know,
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: I mean they need a corner Mitchell.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well they've got a lot of different options.
• 17:20
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• 17:20
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  Speaker 1: Philly fans. Twenty one and up. Let's quickly talk about
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: the Packers. We had to ask you to break down
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: just some of their Jordan love in particular. What a
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: weird kind of season.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, the.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Packers are this sort of viewed as this strong team,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: but they've lost to the Browns and then they just
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: recently lost at home.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: Which was a super odd game because they never punted
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: in eight possessions and they only scored thirteen points, and
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: they had this great drive to start the game and
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: then save you on Williams, the rookie wide out fumbolt,
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: you know, in the red zone, and they just there
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: were times to start the game and it looked like they
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: had their rhythm and other times it looked like it
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: was an odd game. Let's put it that way, and
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: you know, it's funny because Love threw a pick, you know,
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: and which was a bad one. It was one of
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: the few times this year where his sort of reckless
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: nature popped up, because he hasn't been that guy this year.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: He's actually, for the most part, guys been very controlled,
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: been very calculated. He's become far more efficient. He's he
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: hasn't been chasing plays. That interception was one of the
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: few times this year he chased a play that clearly
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: wasn't there. But he's played for the most part extremely well. Now,
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: the big question, obviously, the elephant in the room, is
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: Tucker Craft has done for the year, and Tucker Craft
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: was a major, major part of everything they did. What
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: will be very interesting is to see what happens now
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: with Musgrave because Musgrave. When Musgrave came out of Oregon
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: and he was hurt too in college's and he's been
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: hurt at times in the NFL, but he's been healthy.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: He's actually in just in terms of pure athleticism. I'm
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: not saying he's better than Craft, but pure athleticism, he's
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: got more of it than Craft. And it'll be very
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: interesting to see see now if he can fill that
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: role or if they think they need to sort of
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: make some adjustments. We don't know the answer to that.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: Greg and Jeff and I were talking about this and
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: our I think our Monday show about Craft. If you remember,
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: everyone talked about Muskrave coming out, not Craft, Musgrave gets hurt,
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: Craft takes over, and Musgrave never never gets the starting
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: job back, right. Yeah, So it's just it's fascinating. Now
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: you've got the injury issues at receiver. So logically, because
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: crafts out, maybe they would go more to eleven personnel.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: But I don't know. They like twelve. I know twelve
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: and they like the Fitzpatrick kid who plays. Now again,
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: I'm not we don't know what they're gonna do at it.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: So I don't want to say that they're not going
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: to go to more twelve. They could very well do that.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: But what But Jeff, what's interesting is if it depends
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: on who's available. We don't know about Wicks's calf injury.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: Dontavian Wicks, Yeah, and Matthew Golden got hurt. Greg, you've
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: seen any of Golden, So, yeah, how's he looked?
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: So it's Golden hurt to the point where he's not
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: going to play.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know yet yet.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Okay, Golden showed flashes. You know, they're not a team
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: that feeds one guy, so you know, but Golden has
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: shown flashes where you go, oh boy, this guy's you know,
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: because you can see the speed in the movement. It's there.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: But they don't focus on one guy. So it's really
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: hard to say. And obviously Reid won't be back for
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: this game. He's he was. You know, they were able
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: to survive because they have so many players, so many receivers.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: But you know, obviously, if Golden can't go, if Wicks
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: can't go, then then you start getting down. You know,
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, you know, you got to
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: dance with a girl who brung you, and you start
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: getting to Malik Heath, who's actually not a bad little player,
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: but you know, then he has to play a lot
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: more snaps.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: And Bo Melton, Bo Melton unfortunate is playing I think
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: corner So I don't know, Yeah, I think you're.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Just moving back.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Well, let's take a look real quick at some Jordan love,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: because he's been just so strangely inconsistent, and he does
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: have Christian Watson back.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, that is that is a help.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: And it seemed like Greg in the first game he
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: had a pretty good or like Christian hadn't missed you know,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: the first six weeks because they were hitting the deep
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: over pretty good.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Here do you recall this play.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: Where's the play where this was almost a reckless throw.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: This was one of those where for a second you
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: kind of think ooh, and but he did get it
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: over the defender and he hit Watson who ran kind
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: of a post over type route. Yeah, I remember this play.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: This was from two weeks ago.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Right, and then Watson is lined up in at the
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: bottom of the screen.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's he's the plus split wide receiver to the
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: white side of the field. Right, and see, I know
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: why he throws this ball. See look right now, look
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: at look where Love is. He actually froze it perfectly.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: And look at the deep safety. He sees him squatting
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: facing forward and he feels that he's not in position
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: to play over the top, which he's not. And that's
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: the way they teach it. So that's why he turned
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: this loose. Yep, I understand exactly why he turned it loose.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: And he got it there. Look, he got it there.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: That's not that's not throw a ton of guys can
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: make in this league. So that was He's a top.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: Five to six guy in terms of pure physical traits.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I like how you said it was at
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: first looked a little somewhat reckless, because as we go
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: through some clips you will see kind of that that
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: common thread of some of these throws are reckless.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: He's going to turn a loose now, you know he
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: But again this year, I think he's he's calmed down
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: a bit, and for the most part, he's not been
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: that way. If I'm not mistaken. The interception he threw
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: this past week was only his third one of the season.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: You know, a lot of people had this sense of
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: him because his first year as a starter, which was
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: three years ago, the first seven eight games, he really struggled.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: He you know, he had to sort of learn how
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: to play quarterback in the NFL, and he was very
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: reckless and undisciplined. And I think people have this sense, now,
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: oh that's who he is. He's not really that guy. Now.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: He will make aggressive throws, There's no question about that.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: And I guarantee that every dB coach in the dB
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: room says, hey, he's gonna throw us one, but he
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: doesn't really do that very often.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Right here was another thirty yard and Watson now there,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: this is a reduced splits right with two tight ends.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: This is something I believe you were just saying.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: The Packers do a bit of yeah yeah, and then
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: looks like the Steelers are gonna run.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: Well, this is notice where Watson is. Watson releases inside
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: because this is going to be, if I'm not mistaken,
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: a either sail cross or a post cross, and he's
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: going to hit him on the cross or right yep, yep.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: And so they do this intentionally because corners aren't going
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: to go that far inside. So he's going to get
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: a free release into his route and he can get
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: across the field quicker because he's coming from inside. This
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: is actually a cool concept that you see the Rams
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: do this a lot with Pooka. They bring him inside
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: and you release inside, whether it's a tight end or
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: even the tackle sometimes. So this is actually pretty cool
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: because when you run, when you run a post cross
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: or a sail cross, an alert for that are reduced
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: splits because you want to get a guy across the
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: field quicker.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Right, which he gets right here, he steps up climbs right.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: That's just that's just a beautifully schemed play and they
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: got the exact right coverage, which they probably knew they
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: were going to get because it's cover three.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: By the way. One quick thing to show people who
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: are watching. And we talked about Jillen Hurts going.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Under center more even though in the past we've heard
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Jalen doesn't really love it, doesn't love having his back
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: to the defense. And we've shown that when Jillen Hurts
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: goes under center, he hands it off a little differently
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: than what you see right now with Jordan Love, whose
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: back is completely right now to the defense. Hurts does
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: a little bit more of a side pivot faith right
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: handoff that doesn't take his eyes off the defense the
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: way it did here for Jordan Love.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Just thought that was a little interesting.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, they do a decent amount of play action.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: Love is in the top ten in terms of play action.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you in a sec what the under center
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: stuff is. I can tell you that in a sec
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: if they do a lot of that the under centers stuff,
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: Uh hold on, let's.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: See while you research that will go. We'll also take a.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: Look good amount. I mean, you know, he's not near
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: the top, but a decent amount forty seven dropbacks of
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: under center play action.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's a decent amount. Yeah, Now this was early.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: You pointed this out in your notes against the Panthers
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: where and he loves to unleash it, like you said,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: but he misses as far as seeing his tight end
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: and he winds up dumping it off to Josh Jacobs
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: here instead of seeing the time.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this this was the first play of the game. Yeah,
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: I was. I was surprised at this because again, you
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: never know how things are taught, but it's you know,
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: he kind of looked right at him, and it seemed
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: to me that they got exactly the right coverage for
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: this route because if you see, it's Musgrave who's actually
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: gonna run kind of the the over route here, and
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: he's he's wide open.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Look at it right at the forty yep and doesn't
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: look like him, I mean he's and he boots that way.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, might have been a touchdown.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is I was surprised.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Right, Instead, it winds up now luckily for him, he's
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: got a great weapon and Josh Jacobs, who turned a
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: lateral pass into a ten yard.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: You never know what quarterbacks do that you never know
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: I mean again, I yeah, it just seemed to me
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: like that's you know that that the over route was there,
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: and it was. But again, you know, it's always easy
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: to be an expert when you don't know how things
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: are coached. Just like, I love all these people, and
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: it's you know that I see on social media all
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: the time, but when they see a quarterback, you know,
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: obviously doing something at the line of scrimmage, they think
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: they know exactly what he's doing. And I'm like, come on,
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: you have no idea what he's doing.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: You have no idea, right, I think this here is
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: the reckless.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: This was the long one to watch him.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Oh right, that was actually a great throw.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: Fault is a really good throw. Well, he's the kind
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: of guy too, he can play off his back foot.
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: He doesn't. This is a crazy play.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: This is he doesn't need just you know, to step
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: up and climb and make these throws. This is another
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: deep over.
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: This is this is ridiculous his throw.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like I we found a bunch of
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: deep overs, especially against these The second.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, in a sense, what this is is a
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: vertical high low I mean because you're you're, you know, you're, you're,
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: you're throwing this into the third of the corner who
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: has to play the the the dig ball, so it
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: becomes a vertical high low so somebody else has to
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: play it besides the corner because he can't play it,
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: you know. So so therefore you're getting this against his
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: safety here he's twenty one. Is Nick Scott?
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: He's a safety, right Nick Scott from Maryland?
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: I think no, that's Nick Cross, Nick Cross. That's right,
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: you had the safety for the It's a very good
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: player by the way.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Now he's under center again on this one off
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: the back foot.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: Again, this was the this was the throw he never
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: should have made.
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: No chance, no chance, no chance from the start.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: But he doesn't do this very often, you know. Now
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: Again that doesn't mean he's not going to do it
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: next Monday night, but he doesn't do it very often.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Sure, But again, Packers, I think that's twelve personnel under center,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: so probably a.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: High percentage twelve personnel team up to this point. We
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: have no idea if the craft injury will change that
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: or not, but they've been a high percent I think
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: third or fourth or fifth in the league in percentage
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: of playing twelve personnel.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that was one where you just trusted the
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: arm just a little bit too much.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean even trusting the arm there, there's
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: there were three defenders back. That was not the right decision.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: He correct, That was just a a different en.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: He threw a dig ball this week too. That was
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: a great throw.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: And this is the last one here. Yeah, I'm curious
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: to see how Musgrave plays.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Now that that or how much he's involved.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, you guys, remember when Musgrave came out, people
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: were talking about musk Grave, you know, the athleticism, the movement,
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: big time. He was considered a you know, unfortunately, got
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: hurt his last year at Oregon, so he only played
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: two or three games. And I went back and watched
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: his tape from the previous year, and I mean he's
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: a very athletic guy.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: You got heard by the unfortunately that that gave Kraft
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: a chance graftless.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: You see here the fake jet and motion and kind
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: of linebackers in.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: And that's save On Williams, the rookie who he faked
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: it to, who's kind of a multi dimensional player. He's
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: a rookie but he's a multi but again he's playing
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: off his back foot. He can do this.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: By the way, I love that route because they they
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: had Musgrave kind of deep over to the center and
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: then he sort of does a dipsy do and goes
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: back to this.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: There's a big route that the Kelsey used to run
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: a lot. This is essentially a levels concept. You know,
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: where you got the vertical and then you got you
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: have him running the outcut. It's actually not a bad
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: job by Is that Wallace the linebacker thirty two?
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: And I can't tell it might be.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he actually does a pretty is Wallace.
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he does a.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: Pretty good job here because this is a tough deal.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this is the kind of stuff that Zach
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  Speaker 1: All right, so that's what the Eagles a little taste
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: of what they have to look forward to.
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  Speaker 2: You know, he's got a big arm. He works off
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: play action, that's out.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: He's a very good quarterback. I mean I heard Greg
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: Olsen talking. I think he did that game and he
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: you know, he thinks that the Packers should even put
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: the ball more. Larren loves hands, I mean love. The
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: bottom line is you're dealing with a really talented guy.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's the criticism of him right at him,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: that he is a conservative play caller who leans on
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: the floor.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: You mean Matt Lafloor.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's what it is when they're totally healthy,
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: when their pass targets are healthy, because he's he's.
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: Big on balance, starts with the run.
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: Whoever the running backs are, it's Jacobs now, but whoever
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: they had under the floor, they're going to run the football.
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: But when you look at their past target group is
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: at one point probably the deepest in the National FOOTB League.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: When you have the and the receivers, because they're all
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: good players, they're all good and even Boat Mountain when
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: when he was pressing the service a couple years ago.
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: With all these injuries, he played pretty well.
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: So but yeah, I'll be as Greg said, it's gonna
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: be interesting to see what they do because you're now again.
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: It depends on who's available.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: M hmm.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: And the game's until Monday night, and we'll learn. Remember
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: both teams don't have the practice week Starre tro Thursday, right,
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: that's the first injury reports won't come out to them.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: We we won't know quite from an injury standpoint, particularly
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: with Green Bay, who might be available, and we'll learn
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: earlier in the week. Like you know what Golden hurt
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: at them shoulder, I believe, Okay, yeah, shoulder, so yeah,
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: so we'll see what happens. But yeah, it's a fascinating
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: game and with all the new guys that Eagles added,
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: Jeff bring some intrigue, you know it definitely.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: You know. A quick point is I've seen the Packers defense,
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: I think, in every game this season, and they're actually
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: numbers wise, they're very good. You know, I don't I
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: looked at numbers after I was done watching their tape today,
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: you know, I just I watched them against the Panthers,
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: and I've seen them every game their numbers are good.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: They're top five overall. They're really good against the run,
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: even though they struggled a little this week against the
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: legendary Rico Dado, who by the way of risingly good.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: And their past defense has been solid too. I think
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: they're in the top five overall. They've got good players.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: The concern with them is is at one corner position.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: Nixon is a nice player, not a star, but he's
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: a good player. The question is on the other side.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: You know, they're playing a Valentine and they played Nate
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: Hobbs a bit this week on the outside as well,
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: So that's the question is what they have on the
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: other side. But other than that, they've got a lot
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: of good players well.
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: Their front their linebacker course tremendously talented, Jeff. The one
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: issue that teams have with Nate Hobbs was they really
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: thought because he could play nickel or corner, but a
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: lot of teams really thought he could be an excellent
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: nickel corner, nickel dbe I'm sorry, Vic Fangiel all the corners,
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: but that's the He's kind of a tweener in terms
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: of Royal and he's been hurt a lot. Talented guy,
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: good story of development with the Raiders. But yeah, to me,
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: it's corner. You could go out their corners. I know
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: Greg said they've played well, but I know one's concerned
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: about that. No, no, no one is going to not
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: throw against their You could go against those corners. But
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: the issue is can you protect That's the issue with
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: the got a lot of guys.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: We'll get into how they used parsons, We'll get into
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: more of that. Yeah, but they're linebackers. I mean, maybe
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: Walker has not become the superstar that many thought he would,
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: but he's still a little bit of a freakish athlete.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: And Eddrian Cooper he's an explosive guy now, So I
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: mean they've got very athletic linebackers.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: All right, Fellas, this whole episode was supposed to wet
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: the appetite, not give the main course.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: We will get this.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, so much it was good, great stuff, Greg,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: thanks again, appreciate all the tape breakdown on Jail and Phillips,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Jordan Love and we will again do this more on
• 36:34
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• 36:36
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• 36:39
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