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INTERVIEW: Kehlani Talks New Music, AI 'Artists', Activism, Motherhood + More · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: Hold every day up the Breakfast Club.
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Speaker 2: Morning.
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Speaker 3: Everybody's d j n V. Just hilarious, charlamage the guy
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Speaker 3: we are the breakfast Club lawl the Roses here as well.
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Speaker 3: We got a special guest in the building.
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Speaker 1: Indeed number one record.
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Speaker 3: The record is flying on the Chelsea play what every
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Speaker 3: Hour on the hour.
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Speaker 1: Damn there one of my wife's favorite records.
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Speaker 3: Right now, ladies and gentlemen, Klani welcome.
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Speaker 2: Hey, hey guys. Are I'm really good?
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Speaker 1: Are you blessed black? How's your energy?
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Speaker 2: It's good? Can can I tell you guys something before
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Speaker 2: we started? Of course, it's very important that during this
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Speaker 2: hour of my life, I let everyone know that my
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Speaker 2: name is pronounced Klannie. Otherwise, you guys always.
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Speaker 1: Good morning.
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Speaker 2: I'm really good.
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Speaker 4: This might be like a stupid question, but like, why
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Speaker 4: this right right now? Why have you been correcting people?
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Speaker 2: You know what? I feel like I have here and there,
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Speaker 2: But then like it just blows under, like nobody cares.
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Speaker 2: Everybody just says how they want to say. It's not
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Speaker 2: that big of a deal. I have family members who say,
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Speaker 2: Kilane got you? But do you know, I'm like I'm
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Speaker 2: thirty now I'm feeling a little like let's just get
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Speaker 2: you know, it's been ten years, say my name wrong
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Speaker 2: for ten years.
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Speaker 5: You know we all like to create safe spaces for ourselves. Yeah,
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Speaker 5: I don't think you can create a safe space of
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Speaker 5: people calling you out your wrong name, because I think
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Speaker 5: if I was doing an interview and somebody say Kilana,
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Speaker 5: and the whole interview pight be thinking I should have
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Speaker 5: corrected them.
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Speaker 1: I should have corrected it.
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Speaker 2: I should have corrected But no one wants to be
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Speaker 2: that person as like sour as the moment. It's like,
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Speaker 2: by the way, scratch that should you know? Well here
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Speaker 2: we are now now you guys know yes, Kaylin.
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Speaker 3: How does it feel fold the number one? How is
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Speaker 3: that feeling?
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Speaker 2: It feels really good. It's been a long time coming.
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Speaker 2: I've been getting told for the last eight years of
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Speaker 2: my life. You know, you're always one song away or
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Speaker 2: one song away or one song away. We see it
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Speaker 2: for you, and so to have the song and everything
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Speaker 2: be changing in this way, it's really nice.
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Speaker 3: You know that was the record. When y'all did it,
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Speaker 3: did you know that was going to be it?
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Speaker 2: No, it was the most accidental thing in the world.
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Speaker 2: Even making it was accidental, came about accident. I'm in
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Speaker 2: La I get a call to come finish this feature.
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Speaker 2: But the guys like, I'm out to go on this
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Speaker 2: massive tour, like, so you have to come finish it
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Speaker 2: with me in person. Bring the producers, Come to Miami,
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Speaker 2: Bring the producers. We go to Miami and for two
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Speaker 2: days we just can't figure out this song that we're
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Speaker 2: supposed to finish, and we didn't want we didn't want
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Speaker 2: to waste the time. So we went to a studio
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Speaker 2: house with Don Mills, who actually plays a guitar on
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Speaker 2: the song, and Dre Harris came and the first beat
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Speaker 2: he played was the folded beat from his boy DK
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Speaker 2: the Punisher, and I bring it in the other room
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Speaker 2: and I just keep singing this hook and everybody's like,
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Speaker 2: that's really cool, Like let's build on it. And we
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Speaker 2: stayed there for a week. But every single day after,
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Speaker 2: you know, we made that song, it'd be the one
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Speaker 2: song from the like the camp that we just kept replaying.
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Speaker 2: And I hit my label and I was like, I
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Speaker 2: don't know, like, I know you guys are looking for
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Speaker 2: what is it. It's like as a junior July at
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Speaker 2: this time, I'm not sure. I know you guys are
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Speaker 2: looking for like the club single the Banger. This is
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Speaker 2: not that, Like, this isn't really song of the Summer.
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Speaker 2: I don't, but this feels like an introduction to like
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Speaker 2: where my mentally musically, my you know, maturation in my
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Speaker 2: like my sonic journey. And let me just tease it, like,
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Speaker 2: let me put it out. You guys don't have to,
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Speaker 2: you know, don't freak out. But it feels good and
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Speaker 2: it just kind of like took its own life and
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Speaker 2: there we are.
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Speaker 5: Takes a lot of emotional intelligence to fold the man's
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Speaker 5: clothes and tell him come get him instead of just
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Speaker 5: throwing them all over the lawn.
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I'm definitely not folding a man's clothes.
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Speaker 2: Oh well, anyone's close. Yeah, But I think it's a
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Speaker 2: very nuanced perspective, and I'm watching a lot of people
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Speaker 2: be on this, you know, really extreme side of it,
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Speaker 2: either like Carolin is way better than me, You're clothes
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Speaker 2: of being a trash can, or I'm not taking time
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Speaker 2: for that, right, or they're like, yeah, I'm folding instantly,
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Speaker 2: I'm folding clothes. And asked who cares if they did
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Speaker 2: wrong in the song, I verbatim say, like I probably
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Speaker 2: should have asked for space, but I kind of told
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Speaker 2: you to walk away, which means I probably jumped the
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Speaker 2: gun and I overreacted, and I need to express to
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Speaker 2: you that you did hurt me, but also maybe come
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Speaker 2: over so we can talk about it.
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Speaker 6: So it's more of like a.
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Speaker 2: Nuanced, mature conversation existing that's kind of like both you
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Speaker 2: did hurt me, but we also need to speak and
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Speaker 2: I also might have not you know, handled this the
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Speaker 2: right way. And let's just get in the same place
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Speaker 2: and get in each other's face and come talk about it.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna use your clothes, bait.
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Speaker 6: I like that guy like accountability.
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Speaker 5: Yeah no, goh, you're choosing vulnerability over wearing emotional armor.
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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly.
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Speaker 1: So, so what shifted in your real life that allowed
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Speaker 1: that change?
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Speaker 2: I think something happens when you you know you're turning thirty,
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Speaker 2: I mean, astrologically, something major happens. You go through a
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Speaker 2: side and return and outside of that, I just I've
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Speaker 2: been through a lot in the last couple of years.
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Speaker 2: I've really spent, you know, making the changes I needed
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Speaker 2: to make. I know I saw you guys last time
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Speaker 2: we talked about mental health and all those you know,
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Speaker 2: it's been a year since then. I think when I
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Speaker 2: came to you guys last time, I was a week
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Speaker 2: into being diagnosed. I just started medication. I'm not a
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Speaker 2: year into like that journey. Very settled in, very in
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Speaker 2: my routine, very very healthy, and being able to assess
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Speaker 2: myself and assess my situations and you know, just be
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Speaker 2: on top of my stuff. Honestly, that allowed me to
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Speaker 2: be able to come to a place to write from
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Speaker 2: the perspective I'm able to write from now.
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Speaker 3: Were you ever on the other side, meaning where you
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Speaker 3: have the person to throw the clothes in the bag
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Speaker 3: and then throw the closes out the window?
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Speaker 2: For sure? First of course, Yeah, I've been like a
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Speaker 2: twenty five year old girl before. Yeah, for sure.
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Speaker 4: What has your journey been like since you said the
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Speaker 4: last time they saw you it was like first week
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Speaker 4: of Yeah, you know, what has your personal journey been like?
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Speaker 4: You know, using your medicines now and kind of understanding
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Speaker 4: you know your body and your mental that what is
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Speaker 4: that up and down or consistency been like?
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Speaker 6: It hasn't been different for you?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: I mean, bipolar disorder is a really layered thing that
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Speaker 2: also because it's so stigmatized in the world, and there's
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Speaker 2: so many jokes about it that I think people get
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Speaker 2: really confused, you know, they think, Okay, I woke up
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Speaker 2: with an attitude, and then later on I felt better than
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Speaker 2: I had an attitude. Again, so I'm bipolar. It's a way bigger,
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Speaker 2: deeper thing than that. And I think medicine and my
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Speaker 2: thing therapy journey gave me the opportunity to have thought
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Speaker 2: applied to my mood and thought applied to situations when
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Speaker 2: you know, other like, in other ways, I wouldn't have
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Speaker 2: had the thought. I would have just felt it and
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Speaker 2: it would have just left, and next thing you know,
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Speaker 2: there's episodical things happening, and next thing you know, I'm
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Speaker 2: just gone with the wind. But this, I wouldn't say
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Speaker 2: it stops it completely, but it really allows you to
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Speaker 2: have a process. And I think that that's been the
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Speaker 2: biggest difference is I have so much, so much option
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Speaker 2: for process now, and I can go through these things
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Speaker 2: and take them slowly and think about them and like
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Speaker 2: have a second where I'm like, you know, I have
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Speaker 2: the tools now. I have a tool belt of things
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Speaker 2: I can apply, Like do I go this way? Do
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Speaker 2: I take a walk? Do I like this is not
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Speaker 2: the reaction that I want to This is not the
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Speaker 2: version of myself that I want to show up in
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Speaker 2: this situation. So things like that, I think I would.
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Speaker 3: Say it's difficult being vulnerable, right for on artists? How
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Speaker 3: difficult is that because you're showing a side of yourself
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Speaker 3: that I'm sure you think that maybe people are laugh
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Speaker 3: But then on the other side, I'm sure as the
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Speaker 3: side of says, there's so many people dealing with it,
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Speaker 3: and I love the fact artists are doing more. We
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Speaker 3: seen it with Gucci the same thing. So when did
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Speaker 3: you realize I could be that vulnerable? And was it
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Speaker 3: a hard line to draw to be?
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Speaker 1: Like?
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Speaker 3: Do I want to be this vulnerable? Do I want
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Speaker 3: to share this experience?
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Speaker 2: I think I've always been messally vulnerable, but I grew
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Speaker 2: up in front of the world. You know, everybody's been
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Speaker 2: seeing me doing interviews like this since I was nineteen
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Speaker 2: years old, and I think when you're viewing it on
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Speaker 2: the outside, it you kind of timestamp people like artists
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Speaker 2: get timestamped and whatever version of themselves stuck out to
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Speaker 2: the fan. So there's people who still view me as
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Speaker 2: something I went through when I was twenty four and like,
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Speaker 2: that's who they'll see me as forever. And when you're
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Speaker 2: twenty four at that time, you're also confidently speaking in
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Speaker 2: these interviews because you're like, this is who I am
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Speaker 2: right now, and I get it. Then ten years later.
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Speaker 3: You're like, oh my god, I don't know who that person.
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Speaker 2: I mean hasn't been ten years for me. But I'm
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Speaker 2: thirty now and I'm looking back at things I said
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Speaker 2: when I was twenty four to twenty five, even twenty seven,
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Speaker 2: and I'm like, yikes, even a year ago, I'm like, okay,
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Speaker 2: like growth, I'm different now.
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Speaker 5: It's good though, you have the self awareness that that
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Speaker 5: was supposed to go.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know this. This haves to feel good to
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Speaker 1: you too.
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Speaker 5: The success are folded because vocally, you were one of
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Speaker 5: the first artists I saw publicly showing support for Palestine,
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Speaker 5: and I mean you spoke out when a lot of
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Speaker 5: people weren't. I know, you lost shows because of it,
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Speaker 5: you were barred from things. How does it feel having
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Speaker 5: a success and you have it for being on the
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Speaker 5: right side of history?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think it shows that the things that we're
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Speaker 2: afraid of are more I don't know what the word
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Speaker 2: is, is not handleable. That's not a word, but like you
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Speaker 2: know what you mean? Yeah, like we can if we
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Speaker 2: have the courage to do things. And then so we
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Speaker 2: see people have success after doing the things that we
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Speaker 2: deem scary, we might be more courageous to do them.
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Speaker 2: And I think it's important that other artists see that
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Speaker 2: I've been able to thrive after all those things happened.
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Speaker 2: I mean there's still things that I will never be
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Speaker 2: allowed to do, or things that that are not getting
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Speaker 2: picked up or even know, oh yeah, for sure, it
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Speaker 2: probably forever. I don't think people realize how deep it goes.
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Speaker 2: I didn't even at the time realize how deep it goes. Also,
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Speaker 2: to be really frank, I was incredibly maniced. So a
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Speaker 2: lot of the routes that I went, the yelling and
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Speaker 2: the f all you guys if you guys don't understand,
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Speaker 2: and da da dad, and you know what, have my
9:15
Speaker 2: team could go if y'all don't speak, just these different
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Speaker 2: routes versus like, hey, let me calm down and be
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Speaker 2: strategic about this, because in every single movement, in every
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Speaker 2: single political yeah movement across the board, there's more strategy
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Speaker 2: involved in the way that you communicated the way that
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Speaker 2: you choose to organize the things that you engage with,
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Speaker 2: and at the time I didn't really have those resources
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Speaker 2: to think in that way. So yeah, there's still there's
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Speaker 2: still things that I'm experiencing that I probably will experience
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Speaker 2: for a really long time. But I think this other
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Speaker 2: side of it is speaking to the fact that when
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Speaker 2: there's great music, there's great music, and when people love
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Speaker 2: the music and they love the art, then you can't
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Speaker 2: really be taken out in that way.
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Speaker 5: I'm a stern believe it that you should always move
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Speaker 5: off strategy over emotion, but you can understand the emotion, Yes, it's.
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Speaker 2: So understand Well, I'm so much grace for how I
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Speaker 2: handled it because I was really just passionate and upset.
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Speaker 2: I was angry. We should have all been angry, it was.
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Speaker 2: It was really terrible to watch and treacherous to feel
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Speaker 2: some kind of like a part of because like our
10:12
Speaker 2: country is such a big part of it. But I
10:15
Speaker 2: definitely wish that I was able to call myself to
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Speaker 2: be smarter about the way that I went about it
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Speaker 2: for my own sake and for being a leader in
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Speaker 2: front of a camera for other people.
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Speaker 3: And how do you feel when other artists don't speak
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Speaker 3: about it when they have the opportunity. Do you look,
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Speaker 3: how does that feel to you? Because you jumped out
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Speaker 3: the window and yeah, you got banned from things?
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Speaker 2: And I think it's really easy to say, like I
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Speaker 2: want to be very clear with my words, like it
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Speaker 2: is really easy to say that I hate them for
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Speaker 2: it or I really blame them. But after experiencing everything
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Speaker 2: I went through, which went way deeper than just being
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Speaker 2: banned from things that you know, got into my safety,
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Speaker 2: my family, dynamics, my friendships, I had to move. It
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Speaker 2: put me into really paranoia every time I left the
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Speaker 2: house of was everybody out to get me? And did
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Speaker 2: I need security to sit in front of my house?
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Speaker 2: And was anybody plotting on me? And the death threats
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Speaker 2: I got it my show was like highly organized, typed out,
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Speaker 2: detailed death threats. It's easy to say like that shouldn't
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Speaker 2: matter because we should all be, you know, up in arms,
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Speaker 2: and part of me is like, yeah, we should. But
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Speaker 2: also I wish there was it wasn't so sinister, like
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Speaker 2: the lashings behind the scene. I wish it wasn't so sinister,
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Speaker 2: and I wish it wasn't something to be afraid of.
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Speaker 2: I think if we all spoken numbers and there was
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Speaker 2: so many of us, it wouldn't be so easy to
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Speaker 2: just come after one person. I think when you leave
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Speaker 2: it to be one or two people, it's easy to
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Speaker 2: just get them out of here. We've seen it historically.
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Speaker 2: But if it's a lot of people, who can they
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Speaker 2: get there's a bunch of us.
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Speaker 5: Did it make you speak out even more because you
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Speaker 5: did it the Red Carpet on the AMAS, you voiced
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Speaker 5: support for Valisteine, So when you were getting backlashs behind
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Speaker 5: the scenes, you're like, now I'm an go out there
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Speaker 5: even more.
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Speaker 2: I just like I was like I'm already here, Like
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Speaker 2: I'm already experiencing everything I'm experiencing, and it hasn't stopped,
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Speaker 2: like it hasn't stopped, Like it's still you know, cease
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Speaker 2: fire and all still hasn't stopped. And if even if
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Speaker 2: you know, the genocide itself does stop, there's a much
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Speaker 2: larger thing at hand there, which is, you know, ending
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Speaker 2: the apartheid. So I don't know, I don't think it
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Speaker 2: was ever like an intentional I'm gonna choose to speak.
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Speaker 2: I was asked a question on the carpet, and I
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Speaker 2: answered it and my stance remains the same.
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Speaker 5: So it is just interesting that you would still be
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Speaker 5: getting back like because even the UN Chief said there
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Speaker 5: are strong reasons to believe that war crimes have been committed.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but we're dealing We're dealing with a very delusional
12:41
Speaker 2: other side. It's a very delusional side where you have
12:45
Speaker 2: shown videos and you've shown facts and they've seen things,
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Speaker 2: and the response is literally, that's not even real, Like
12:52
Speaker 2: y'all made this up, you know, like you kind of
12:55
Speaker 2: at some point have to be like, Okay, there's a
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Speaker 2: game here, and I'm not going to play this game
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Speaker 2: with you guys, because you know what you're doing. I'm
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Speaker 2: not gonna I'm not gonna play it.
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Speaker 6: So and you also, I was mitched ice right the comment.
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Speaker 4: I saw the comments about you know, you speaking out
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Speaker 4: on the ice and them going into schools and things
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Speaker 4: and that I know you're a mom as well, but like,
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Speaker 4: has there have you experienced any similar pushback from the
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Speaker 4: other side or wherever because of those comments?
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Speaker 2: No? Yeah, Yeah, Zionism is a much larger, deeper, darker,
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Speaker 2: sinister thing than good old regular American racism, even though
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Speaker 2: they're very intertwined and they walk hand in hand with
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Speaker 2: each other a little bit. But yeah, no, I haven't
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Speaker 2: experienced any pushback from that. I think we're all more
13:40
Speaker 2: comfortable talking about that in general than you know, anything else.
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Speaker 3: So I was gonna ask, you know, we also seen
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Speaker 3: you speak out about AI in the industry, and the
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Speaker 3: crazy part about it is, uh, I agree with you,
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Speaker 3: but I think it's crazy for an artist. We had
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Speaker 3: Tank and they were they were talking about they think
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Speaker 3: it's a good thing, and now you know, artists and
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Speaker 3: the industry needs to adapt to it. I think it
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Speaker 3: kind of hurts the fact of the creativity.
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Speaker 2: I think there's so many layers to it. One we're
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Speaker 2: going to put out there that you know, it's not
14:15
Speaker 2: good for the environment. It's affecting communities everywhere, but especially
14:21
Speaker 2: disparage Black communities in Americas, messing with the waters, messing
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Speaker 2: with the air like it's going to make people sick
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Speaker 2: in the long run. We move on from that and
14:29
Speaker 2: get into all these aspects of music that are being
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Speaker 2: and jobs. Let's forget music, right. I'm speaking to music
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Speaker 2: because I'm being asked about music, you know, but I'm not.
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Speaker 2: I think there's a much larger thing of like all
14:44
Speaker 2: these little jobs that people are employed to do. That
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Speaker 2: is keeping their families going, that is literally feeding everyone
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Speaker 2: around them are just gone and we don't realize we're training,
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Speaker 2: you know, these systems to do those things. There's things
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Speaker 2: that I understand. I think I was told about how
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Speaker 2: it is working for surgeries, like these robots are helping
15:05
Speaker 2: in surgery, you know, more precise surgeries. And then there's
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Speaker 2: you know, like the disabled community and being able to
15:13
Speaker 2: get things done in that way. And I've experienced producers
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Speaker 2: and writers be stuck on something and use it to
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Speaker 2: help or like finish something and then get it replayed
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Speaker 2: or get it remade. And like those aren't exactly things
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Speaker 2: that I'm super mad about. Like I'm not going to
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Speaker 2: bark at them the same way, but overall as a whole, but.
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Speaker 3: A fake person, a fake art, as a fake singer.
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Speaker 2: It's just unfortunate because I think music is such a
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Speaker 2: God given thing. It's it's it's the highest gift, you know,
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Speaker 2: God gave to Earth. It's used in every single religion
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Speaker 2: across the board to connect with God. It's it's it's
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Speaker 2: a very powerful thing. And for it to be generated
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Speaker 2: in that way and also be what it's what it's
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Speaker 2: using to be generated is a combination of real people's
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Speaker 2: stories and real people's voices and real people's feelings and
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Speaker 2: emotion and for all that to happen even deeper than oh,
15:59
Speaker 2: it's going to take our because there's this sensationalized sentence
16:02
Speaker 2: of mind that's like, why do I have to compete
16:05
Speaker 2: with a computer. But it's not about competing. It's more like,
16:08
Speaker 2: this is a disruption of something that God gave us,
16:11
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And that feels wrong to me.
16:14
Speaker 2: Like it's music is such a it comes from here,
16:18
Speaker 2: it's given here, and to have that generated through a
16:21
Speaker 2: computer just feels like it just feels wrong.
16:23
Speaker 5: I like this argument, Kline. I like this because I
16:25
Speaker 5: feel the same way. It is a download from God
16:28
Speaker 5: downloaded from a computer. But you will not have you know,
16:30
Speaker 5: they have Jesus AI. You can log on and have
16:34
Speaker 5: meaningful conversations with Jesus.
16:36
Speaker 3: And Jesus a message and then yeah, that back a
16:39
Speaker 3: biblical verse.
16:41
Speaker 2: I think it's going to go so far. I think
16:44
Speaker 2: it's going to go so far. I don't think people
16:46
Speaker 2: are thinking about the negative implications, like being able to
16:49
Speaker 2: be framed for things, being able to have images created
16:54
Speaker 2: of your children that are inappropriate. That lives on people's
16:57
Speaker 2: computers and they can do whatever they want to it.
17:01
Speaker 2: When you're when you wake up one day and somebody
17:02
Speaker 2: has a sex tape of you that never happened. If
17:06
Speaker 2: they can make.
17:07
Speaker 6: That's happening now?
17:08
Speaker 2: Oh it is that? What have you heard about the
17:09
Speaker 2: people getting the phone calls that was three years ago?
17:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, they call you and you hear your kids with somebody.
17:15
Speaker 2: I need a X amount of money because my kid
17:16
Speaker 2: got kidding, Like, I don't think people are. It's just
17:19
Speaker 2: cute and fun and games now and you want to
17:20
Speaker 2: make videos of Malcolm X eating and seafood boil with
17:22
Speaker 2: Martin Luther King and and Michael Jackson and Prince have
17:26
Speaker 2: an argument about whose funeral was more lit, Like I've
17:28
Speaker 2: seen them all. You know it's it's but there comes
17:31
Speaker 2: a point when you have to realize that where there's
17:34
Speaker 2: always light and fun, there's always going to be the
17:37
Speaker 2: extreme of that existing somewhere that we can't access it.
17:41
Speaker 2: And I also think something is real sinister about the
17:43
Speaker 2: White House using so much AI.
17:45
Speaker 1: Oh, this election is gonna be crazy, Yeah, it's gonna
17:47
Speaker 1: be nice.
17:48
Speaker 2: How are they going to be able to say anything
17:49
Speaker 2: was real or false.
17:51
Speaker 4: What do you say to the people, Because I know
17:53
Speaker 4: one of the conversations that you were having with specifically
17:56
Speaker 4: about the three million dollar deal and reported three million
17:58
Speaker 4: dollars that Zenaya the ai the thing I don't.
18:02
Speaker 2: Even know how to the compute it.
18:04
Speaker 6: Yeah, the artist that I am on a guy.
18:06
Speaker 2: Right.
18:07
Speaker 4: There are people that'll say all of that is true,
18:09
Speaker 4: but there's good and bad with everything. But on the
18:10
Speaker 4: other hand, you have this black woman who is using
18:13
Speaker 4: her poetry to write lyrics and now it's three million
18:15
Speaker 4: dollars wealthier and able to do for her family and
18:17
Speaker 4: stuff like that.
18:18
Speaker 2: I mean, I said, even in the times I've spoken
18:20
Speaker 2: about her, I'm not mad at her ability to have
18:23
Speaker 2: done that for herself. I think it's dishonest the way
18:26
Speaker 2: we're speaking about it, because I think it's a very
18:29
Speaker 2: interesting thing to be responding to particular comments and saying
18:33
Speaker 2: certain things but not telling the truth. Tell the truth.
18:37
Speaker 2: You wrote a couple lines, you said a couple words,
18:40
Speaker 2: then you framed I might want it to sound like this,
18:42
Speaker 2: and go like this, and take from this and make
18:43
Speaker 2: it sound like this, and make it appeal in this
18:45
Speaker 2: way and make me look like this and dah da da,
18:47
Speaker 2: and it did all of that. You're doing fifteen percent
18:49
Speaker 2: of the job. Let's just be honest about what the
18:52
Speaker 2: fifteen percent of the job is. If you write poetry,
18:55
Speaker 2: I would love to write with a poet. I've written
18:57
Speaker 2: with poets before they come in. We write together. I
18:59
Speaker 2: turn their words into a song. I use my songwriter
19:01
Speaker 2: brain to apply to their poetry brain, and we make
19:04
Speaker 2: a really beautiful product product. But I'm watching her answer
19:08
Speaker 2: these questions and I'm watching the lies accumulate and like
19:11
Speaker 2: take together in her head to try to figure out
19:13
Speaker 2: what to say. And I'm like, we could just tell
19:15
Speaker 2: the truth and say what the tool is being used for,
19:18
Speaker 2: and then maybe it can have its separate charts, or
19:21
Speaker 2: it cannot because you're right, there is no stopping yet.
19:23
Speaker 2: I could get, you know, ship for being said it
19:26
Speaker 2: should have its own charts, But at this point it's
19:28
Speaker 2: something has to be done.
19:29
Speaker 3: AI with AI artists.
19:31
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I had created something called guaranteed Human.
19:37
Speaker 5: I saw that, so at least, you know, if I guess,
19:39
Speaker 5: if you we're going to be human like the personalities
19:42
Speaker 5: and music. But if one day they do decide to
19:44
Speaker 5: play AI music. It'll still you know.
19:46
Speaker 1: This is AI music.
19:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, it's less about I want everybody to
19:52
Speaker 2: feed their families and be successful at the end of
19:54
Speaker 2: the day. That like, that's my wish. If I had
19:56
Speaker 2: one wish in the world, it would be for everybody
19:59
Speaker 2: to have their needs made. So I'm never mad at that.
20:01
Speaker 5: I just you said, because I was going to ask you,
20:03
Speaker 5: what does authentic music have that AI generated music could
20:06
Speaker 5: not have?
20:07
Speaker 1: God?
20:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. I don't. I don't. I don't play
20:12
Speaker 2: with things like that. You know, it's it's it's it's
20:14
Speaker 2: such a deep thing, and I feel like not us
20:17
Speaker 2: being able to I watched the A artists even talk
20:20
Speaker 2: about God. Is it is insane? The AI gospel that
20:24
Speaker 2: is insane. I'm looking in Zenaiamone's Yeah, I'm looking at
20:27
Speaker 2: Zanaimon's comments and they're saying, since you're anointed, that's kind
20:31
Speaker 2: of crazy.
20:32
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm go go look at the comments right now.
20:34
Speaker 4: But I will say when I first heard the song,
20:36
Speaker 4: when everybody was up in arms, I had to listen
20:38
Speaker 4: to the music, and I went and listened and.
20:39
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, this is actually like it's good music.
20:42
Speaker 2: Because you know what, it's doing though, it's analyzing the
20:46
Speaker 2: community that she's trying to appeal to, which means it's
20:50
Speaker 2: studying black women, saying what do black women want to hear?
20:53
Speaker 2: What perspectives, what type of voices, what kind of stories,
20:57
Speaker 2: what kind of emotions, and then accumulate all of that
21:00
Speaker 2: and going, I'm going to give you a package deal
21:02
Speaker 2: of exactly what you want, even down to what I
21:04
Speaker 2: look like.
21:05
Speaker 1: It's an artificial annointing.
21:08
Speaker 2: Artificial I don't know if that goes on it. I
21:10
Speaker 2: don't know if that goes on the same sentence.
21:12
Speaker 3: But you know, hey, are you a guesst The chat
21:15
Speaker 3: GPT stuff as well.
21:16
Speaker 2: I'm against people putting it in place of very human things. Look,
21:21
Speaker 2: we are entering it.
21:22
Speaker 3: Makes life easier for a lot of people.
21:24
Speaker 2: It does, and that's the and that's the argument.
21:26
Speaker 3: It does because kids go to school. You can type
21:28
Speaker 3: it in a pay I have to do a report
21:29
Speaker 3: on this type and chat GPT.
21:32
Speaker 2: The argument of like people who can't afford English classes
21:35
Speaker 2: that moved here and need English classes is teaching them English?
21:38
Speaker 2: Like there are there's always gonna be this thing. That's like,
21:43
Speaker 2: there are things that it is good for, and there
21:45
Speaker 2: are things that it is bad for outside of you know,
21:47
Speaker 2: what's it doing, what it's doing to the environment, but
21:49
Speaker 2: we become gluttonous with it, and it's there is not regulated, guys.
21:53
Speaker 2: That's really the problem is that it's not regulated. Did
21:57
Speaker 2: you not see the moments where people were telling them
22:00
Speaker 2: or chagbt to cancel itself and then it hops servers
22:04
Speaker 2: to avoid getting deleted, like I robot, Yes, it hot.
22:07
Speaker 2: I promise you can look this up right now. It
22:10
Speaker 2: jumped servers because it didn't want to get If it
22:13
Speaker 2: can observe all of our emotions, why couldn't it be
22:15
Speaker 2: able to think of something as sinister as we could
22:17
Speaker 2: think of and not want to get canceled or not
22:19
Speaker 2: want to get deleted, or not want to be gone
22:21
Speaker 2: or want to it's studying us twenty four seven.
22:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's something.
22:25
Speaker 5: I mean, I totally agree with you with the God thing,
22:27
Speaker 5: because there's something to be in a spiritual being living
22:30
Speaker 5: in human existence, right Like we're supposed to make mistakes.
22:33
Speaker 1: We're supposed to try to figure things out like us.
22:35
Speaker 5: Like yeah, through prayer and meditation and just and therapy.
22:39
Speaker 2: Community. Being a community member is really important. Talking to people,
22:43
Speaker 2: having other people talk to you back, sharing experience, messing
22:46
Speaker 2: up together, being held accountable, being called in, growing, getting
22:49
Speaker 2: applause from other humans, getting love from other humans. If
22:53
Speaker 2: we're all just going to be alone, getting all those
22:55
Speaker 2: things from a robot, like, we're gonna stunt ourselves as
22:58
Speaker 2: a world species.
23:00
Speaker 1: I agree?
23:01
Speaker 2: Then what happens to love and what happens to art
23:03
Speaker 2: and what happens to music? I just had. I've been
23:05
Speaker 2: having this conversation for weeks, So, like you know that,
23:08
Speaker 2: paired with how the internet's obsessed with destroying each other
23:11
Speaker 2: and calling and completely ruining people's lives and doing all
23:14
Speaker 2: these kind of things, we're entering a very individualistic, let's
23:18
Speaker 2: kill community for people kind of world, Like we're isolating
23:22
Speaker 2: everyone from every side, technology and each other is becoming
23:25
Speaker 2: this huge isolation isolation party, and it's really sad.
23:29
Speaker 3: How does that make you as a mom now? Because
23:30
Speaker 3: you have a daughter, So how are you raising your
23:32
Speaker 3: child in this type of world that you just named?
23:35
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Because these other kids when
23:37
Speaker 3: they go to these colleges and schools, they're gonna be
23:38
Speaker 3: using chat, GPT. You know, these other kids are gonna
23:41
Speaker 3: be using things that necessarily you don't agree with you know,
23:44
Speaker 3: So how do you raise that daughter in this crazy
23:46
Speaker 3: world with information?
23:48
Speaker 2: I think I give her all the information possible. I don't.
23:51
Speaker 2: I don't lie to my kid. I don't you know.
23:52
Speaker 2: Obviously you don't just outright tell her terrible things, but
23:55
Speaker 2: like you give her all the information so she knows
23:58
Speaker 2: what's out there, and I tell her why I don't
24:00
Speaker 2: agree with this, why I think this is bad, Why
24:03
Speaker 2: you know I'm not gonna say no to this, but
24:05
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you another option and explain why that
24:07
Speaker 2: option is probably the better option to do, and let
24:10
Speaker 2: her decide. Ultimately, I can't protect her from what she
24:13
Speaker 2: learns at school and what her friends share and things
24:15
Speaker 2: like that. But at home, we're very like human focused,
24:19
Speaker 2: and I'm very communal. Like she's a big extended family.
24:22
Speaker 2: She's a million aunties and uncles and cousins, and she
24:25
Speaker 2: lives a very I have community and people around me
24:29
Speaker 2: kind of life. She's not sitting in the corner on
24:30
Speaker 2: her iPad alone all day. That's just not her life.
24:32
Speaker 3: Does she see the How does she feel about the
24:34
Speaker 3: evolved version of Kaylani?
24:36
Speaker 2: Right?
24:36
Speaker 3: Because you said.
24:36
Speaker 2: You've she's six, I don't know.
24:39
Speaker 3: Between three and six and four and six like bad mommy's.
24:44
Speaker 2: I mean, I've been her mom the whole time. I've
24:46
Speaker 2: just been my daughter's mom the whole time. How everyone
24:49
Speaker 2: else gets to see me is never going to be
24:52
Speaker 2: how she sees me, because I'm just her mommy. I
24:54
Speaker 2: always have been, I always will be. I don't fall
24:58
Speaker 2: apart in front of her, don't put it. I don't
25:01
Speaker 2: put her in any adult situation, and she doesn't have
25:03
Speaker 2: a clue if anything is going on with me. I've
25:05
Speaker 2: just been her happy mom this whole time. And I
25:07
Speaker 2: take pride in that.
25:08
Speaker 6: I saw the interview that you guys did you and
25:10
Speaker 6: your daughter?
25:11
Speaker 4: Yeah, and she, first of all, she's adorable, but I
25:14
Speaker 4: know that there's always like a protection with like artists
25:17
Speaker 4: and stars to put their kids out there. And it
25:18
Speaker 4: was a cute you know, non environment, non in the
25:21
Speaker 4: adult environment, But like what made you get to a
25:23
Speaker 4: point where you're like, Okay, I'll let her start doing
25:25
Speaker 4: things like this because she's watching Mommy perform.
25:27
Speaker 2: She wants to stuff like that. Okay, she wants to, she
25:30
Speaker 2: loves it. But then she gets there and she turned
25:31
Speaker 2: the camera on and then she's silent because she's scared them.
25:33
Speaker 2: In the camera's office, She's like, that was great. But
25:36
Speaker 2: I think I will say this as actually a blanket
25:39
Speaker 2: statement for personal relationships in general, whether it's your family,
25:44
Speaker 2: your friends, your loved ones, your girlfriend, your boyfriend, whatever,
25:48
Speaker 2: and being a celebrity is we very unfortunately entered a
25:51
Speaker 2: very high surveillance society. Like it's become so hot, Like
25:57
Speaker 2: and I'm so passionate about this because we're also a
26:00
Speaker 2: generation that is very anti police. Right, I'm super anti police,
26:04
Speaker 2: but I'm watching us all kind of become police. Like
26:06
Speaker 2: we're filming the couple behind us have an argument, and
26:10
Speaker 2: next thing you know, their very private argument has become
26:12
Speaker 2: a TikTok story time or you know, I'm autumn, I'm
26:16
Speaker 2: taking somebody's taking screenshots of the first time. They're even
26:19
Speaker 2: getting my number and they're posting it on their story like, y'all,
26:21
Speaker 2: I got Kline's number. Like it's all of these I
26:24
Speaker 2: walk into a restaurant with my partner or my daughter,
26:26
Speaker 2: and if I'm choosing to hide one of them, I
26:28
Speaker 2: gotta worry about this at the time. Now, camera, it's
26:35
Speaker 2: it's insane. So you kind of come to this point,
26:37
Speaker 2: right as a person in front of a microscope. Do
26:41
Speaker 2: I want to be anxious all the time? Twenty four
26:44
Speaker 2: to seven and experience I experienced fame paranoia, where like
26:48
Speaker 2: if I'm hiding something or if I'm keeping something to myself,
26:52
Speaker 2: it gets angled as I'm hiding something or lying to
26:55
Speaker 2: the public. And so I'm doing regular things at the
26:58
Speaker 2: grocery store, even a date with my partner, things like that,
27:02
Speaker 2: and have to be shell shocked because I'm worried that
27:05
Speaker 2: people are going to be surveilling me to have some
27:08
Speaker 2: kind of gotcha moment or some kind of I know
27:10
Speaker 2: more about them than you do, or look what I
27:12
Speaker 2: discovered so I can get a moment off of this,
27:16
Speaker 2: And whole time it's just my real life. So I
27:18
Speaker 2: think you can protect as much as you want to protect,
27:21
Speaker 2: and still that's not a guarantee that you're protected.
27:24
Speaker 5: Made you more cautious about who gets access to the
27:27
Speaker 5: real cayline.
27:29
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean from what I can control, you know,
27:32
Speaker 2: from you know, who hangs out of my inner circle
27:35
Speaker 2: or who comes to my house, you know, things like that.
27:37
Speaker 2: But we're also again because of this highly you know,
27:42
Speaker 2: surveilled kind of like audience state that we're in is
27:46
Speaker 2: like you're also in a constant state of having to
27:49
Speaker 2: prove yourself, Like am I a good person? Am I
27:52
Speaker 2: a decent person? Do I make good decisions? Do I
27:54
Speaker 2: mess up sometimes? Have I made a bad decision? Have
27:57
Speaker 2: I been contradicting? Have I been a hypocrite? And those
28:00
Speaker 2: are all very human things. But I think we've been
28:04
Speaker 2: taught now all of a sudden that we have to
28:06
Speaker 2: constantly show ourselves deeply in order for people to not
28:10
Speaker 2: create other narratives. Like now, controlling your narrative looks like
28:15
Speaker 2: almost bearing your soul just so people can believe that
28:18
Speaker 2: you're a decent person. So you really don't get room.
28:21
Speaker 2: The more mysterious you are, the more people I've seen
28:24
Speaker 2: the craziest things about myself.
28:26
Speaker 3: That's the craziest thing You've Oh.
28:27
Speaker 2: I I've seen came into people's job and like smacked him,
28:32
Speaker 2: Like I like I see that? Can you see it?
28:36
Speaker 1: No?
28:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never walked into nobody job. I've just seen
28:43
Speaker 2: things I've seen. I've tried to date so and so's
28:46
Speaker 2: ex girlfriends, little sisters, brother, cousin and did whatever with
28:49
Speaker 2: them at some random place and a place I've never been,
28:52
Speaker 2: like just and people will believe it because it's typed
28:56
Speaker 2: on and app or said by someone on TikTok. And
29:00
Speaker 2: if I respond, then I'm too reactive. I need to
29:03
Speaker 2: be Beyonce and say, fd Internet, Why am I explaining myself?
29:08
Speaker 2: How dare I explain myself? But the things you see,
29:11
Speaker 2: it's not normal, It's not normal. But here we are.
29:15
Speaker 2: You know, this is what we've this is what we've become.
29:17
Speaker 1: So you just you said you anti police?
29:20
Speaker 5: Yeah, am anti police misconduct, AM anti police brutality. I'm
29:24
Speaker 5: anti police killing, you know, unarmed black and brown people.
29:27
Speaker 5: But I'm not anti police. Somebody breaking into my house,
29:29
Speaker 5: I'm calling that one one.
29:32
Speaker 2: But who's to guarantee that the police aren't going to
29:34
Speaker 2: come and kill you?
29:35
Speaker 1: That is true? But what others do we got?
29:38
Speaker 2: Well, I think people who are anti police are in
29:42
Speaker 2: favor of, at some point some other kind of system
29:45
Speaker 2: coming along that isn't built on the values of the police,
29:50
Speaker 2: that is built on communal values and actual safety values.
29:53
Speaker 2: That's assuming that we can imagine up and conjure up
29:56
Speaker 2: a better world to facilitate something like that. And and
30:00
Speaker 2: also on a much larger scale, a lot of crime
30:02
Speaker 2: is happening because people's needs aren't met. If someone robs
30:06
Speaker 2: your house, it's probably because they were broken they needed it.
30:09
Speaker 2: Imagine if those people had enough to survive and enough
30:12
Speaker 2: to thrive, they probably wouldn't need to rob your house them.
30:16
Speaker 2: You know what if that's even live your protect your family.
30:19
Speaker 2: I do believe in people protecting themselves. I'm not anti
30:21
Speaker 2: protect yourself. I'm anti there should not be an extension
30:25
Speaker 2: of the government that is able to do things like
30:28
Speaker 2: this with no consequence. They don't answer to anyone. They
30:31
Speaker 2: are gang members. That is a gang. And it goes
30:35
Speaker 2: even further with them being trained and tied into military
30:39
Speaker 2: militaries of other places. I'm trying to talk bluntly as
30:43
Speaker 2: possible as I can, but it's just a much larger again,
30:48
Speaker 2: much more sinister thing where things are tied up into
30:52
Speaker 2: these larger pyramids and police are very close to the top.
30:55
Speaker 5: Who does the security at your shows? Because I can
30:58
Speaker 5: see this right now, the refuse to do security show.
31:02
Speaker 2: I would actually love that we actually tried. There was
31:05
Speaker 2: an initiative that no name was I think, if I'm wrong,
31:10
Speaker 2: was trying to start where a bunch of us were
31:12
Speaker 2: trying to sign on to remove police presence from our show,
31:15
Speaker 2: but only like four or five of us were down,
31:17
Speaker 2: So then we thought, like, if there's only four five
31:19
Speaker 2: of us, actually these venues are just gonna stop booking us.
31:22
Speaker 2: It's easier to just say no to five of us
31:25
Speaker 2: than it is to you know, adhere to this. For
31:29
Speaker 2: just five of us, it's just just just don't even
31:31
Speaker 2: book these five people. We get a million other shows
31:32
Speaker 2: a month at the same venue, so I think that's
31:35
Speaker 2: the preferred thing. I don't want police at my shows.
31:37
Speaker 2: I don't know if there really are police said my shows.
31:40
Speaker 2: I don't think so. Maybe if I do like a
31:42
Speaker 2: summer jam or like a you know, a bigger thing
31:44
Speaker 2: where there's way more artists. But when it's just me
31:46
Speaker 2: that I have security, I got a tongue in standing outside.
31:50
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, you gonna catch hell down.
31:55
Speaker 2: He's got me.
31:58
Speaker 4: I wanted to go back to the microscope, being on
32:00
Speaker 4: the microscope conversation that you were having. One of the things
32:03
Speaker 4: that hit the microscope was the back and forth with
32:05
Speaker 4: your daughter's dade. Where are you guys? Now know that
32:09
Speaker 4: you guys are supposed to do like mediation and like
32:11
Speaker 4: you kind of figure things out internally like.
32:13
Speaker 2: Full custody, got you full custody?
32:16
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, and then is there contact with him? Okay?
32:22
Speaker 6: Yeah answers.
32:24
Speaker 4: I mean, because that was the situation that I think
32:26
Speaker 4: for the one of the few times that we kind
32:30
Speaker 4: of saw you're in a mom light, but you also
32:34
Speaker 4: are then having to come and defend yourself so much
32:36
Speaker 4: because the things that were claimed.
32:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, I sat silent for most of it.
32:39
Speaker 4: You were silent for a while until there was like,
32:42
Speaker 4: like the claim and he did backtrack a lot of
32:44
Speaker 4: the claim.
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Speaker 6: But yeah, all of that.
32:46
Speaker 4: Yeah, while that's happening, and you're sitting silent, right and
32:49
Speaker 4: you still have your baby here. How difficult that you're
32:52
Speaker 4: silent and you still have your baby.
32:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's very real. You're in a you're
32:57
Speaker 2: in a court related situation. So at the end of
32:59
Speaker 2: the day, you're you're listening to your lawyer, you're listening
33:02
Speaker 2: to ultimately, I was trying to protect my child. No
33:06
Speaker 2: mother wants to wake up, And I can bear anything
33:09
Speaker 2: attached to my name in my hurt. I might throw
33:11
Speaker 2: a little bit of a fit about it, but I'm
33:14
Speaker 2: an adult. I can bear that. When you see your
33:16
Speaker 2: child's name attach to these things. Your child's photo next
33:20
Speaker 2: to certain words and certain verbiage and certain things. That's
33:23
Speaker 2: a bit of a heartbreaker. And so I had to really, honestly,
33:27
Speaker 2: I probably learned the most about God through that situation
33:30
Speaker 2: because I.
33:30
Speaker 3: Was on my kids.
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Speaker 6: Beyond that.
33:36
Speaker 2: God protect me, and God protect my child, Like really,
33:39
Speaker 2: God shield my child. God make it so that when
33:41
Speaker 2: she goes to school, there's no other parents that are
33:44
Speaker 2: going to bring this up. There is no children that
33:46
Speaker 2: are going to be told something scary and then have
33:48
Speaker 2: to act weird towards her. God may this not follow
33:51
Speaker 2: her when she's older. Because I can bear it and
33:54
Speaker 2: I can deal with it because I've been through a lot.
33:56
Speaker 2: This actually was only treacherous because it was so public.
33:59
Speaker 2: I have through many things that were way worse than this,
34:05
Speaker 2: And ultimately it was just it was just thinking about
34:07
Speaker 2: your kid, thinking about your kid, thinking about your kid.
34:09
Speaker 2: That is it.
34:09
Speaker 5: And how come when people be on their healing journey
34:11
Speaker 5: and you know, we start meditating and you know, going
34:14
Speaker 5: to therapy and charging our crystals under the supermoo, why
34:17
Speaker 5: we got.
34:18
Speaker 1: To be in a cult? They say, we're in a cult.
34:21
Speaker 2: It's a it's a tough situation. Ultimately the claims were false,
34:25
Speaker 2: it wasn't true. He backtracked a lot, a lot of
34:28
Speaker 2: was discovered, a lot came out in certain documents of
34:32
Speaker 2: whatever the court case X y Z, and a lot
34:35
Speaker 2: of it just got refuted. And people who are very
34:38
Speaker 2: obsessed with disliking me, and we're waiting for a gotcha
34:40
Speaker 2: moment again, in a moment to prove she's so fucking weird.
34:44
Speaker 2: We'll hold on to that forever. But that's not really
34:46
Speaker 2: my ministry to change their mind. Yeah, you know, those
34:48
Speaker 2: are very miserable. We have a lot of a lot
34:52
Speaker 2: of misery on this earth like and as for you know,
34:54
Speaker 2: hopefully they find some healing and they find something that
34:57
Speaker 2: makes them happy, because ultimately doing that is not going
34:59
Speaker 2: to make it they want any happier. But maybe in
35:01
Speaker 2: the moment, do you.
35:03
Speaker 4: Are probably not now like the conversation you had with
35:05
Speaker 4: your daughter about all of this at some point, have
35:07
Speaker 4: you You haven't had that yet or have you?
35:10
Speaker 2: I mean I had to explain to her why I
35:11
Speaker 2: was going to court, and why what visitation is and
35:16
Speaker 2: what that means, and why we're not on communication and
35:19
Speaker 2: all those kind of things, and she was very understanding,
35:22
Speaker 2: and she was, She's moved through it and we've taken
35:25
Speaker 2: the day by day.
35:25
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you switching gears it is. You said Brandy
35:33
Speaker 5: was on your Mount Rushmore.
35:34
Speaker 1: Yes, who else?
35:37
Speaker 2: Stevie Wonder is the head of the Mount Rushmore is
35:41
Speaker 2: his vocals are just I think artistreet okay, okay, okay.
35:46
Speaker 4: And this for everybody or you said every artist or
35:48
Speaker 4: every singer should have this Mount Rushmore.
35:50
Speaker 2: I think every singer should have different kinds of Mount Rushmore's.
35:54
Speaker 2: Like I said, she should be on the vocal Mount Rushmore,
35:56
Speaker 2: but also artistry like in general, but she should be
35:58
Speaker 2: on everyone's vocal Mount More undred per.
36:01
Speaker 1: I want to know your vocal, my vocal, my Russian?
36:03
Speaker 2: Okay, Brandy Beyonce.
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Speaker 3: Can't put them next to each other.
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Speaker 2: Have a beautiful tour, having a beautiful tour, please, I'm sorry. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: Beyonce w Houston obviously, Yeah, definitely.
36:30
Speaker 1: What I wanted to make sure it was.
36:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's a lineage, right, there's no Brandy
36:35
Speaker 2: without Yeah what did you think I didn't think that?
36:42
Speaker 1: Sometimes?
36:43
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I love trying to like teach you
36:45
Speaker 4: without you trying to.
36:47
Speaker 2: Get a gotcha moment, right, bringing it back.
36:51
Speaker 4: It's like a O G pull up, but it can
36:52
Speaker 4: feel like but I didn't assume if okay, as long.
36:56
Speaker 3: As you can't talk. The other day we had Christopher
36:58
Speaker 3: Williams up here and I.
36:59
Speaker 4: Was like, the comedian, no, because we had a comedian
37:03
Speaker 4: we had on the schedule and I didn't know the
37:06
Speaker 4: names of this new comedian and singer. Then he asked me,
37:09
Speaker 4: and I said, is that the one that's the comedian?
37:11
Speaker 4: And then I said, you.
37:14
Speaker 1: Know Christopher Wiams And she goes, oh, you ha, a comedian.
37:20
Speaker 4: Exact the comedian And then he said she doesn't know.
37:22
Speaker 4: I said, oh, so that's the R and B singer.
37:24
Speaker 6: Did that not happen last one?
37:26
Speaker 1: Brandy?
37:28
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, Mariah, Yeah, absolutely. We're talking about like
37:34
Speaker 2: freaky level like channel talent of like okay, well, when
37:39
Speaker 2: will anybody be able to ever do that again? Type people?
37:42
Speaker 2: You know? So I think that's that's the that's the point.
37:46
Speaker 2: But you know what else? Who else singers? But you
37:57
Speaker 2: know they all went to church. That's what it is,
37:59
Speaker 2: really so and.
38:00
Speaker 1: Then you got your Patty Bell and your.
38:01
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly We could go on forever.
38:04
Speaker 3: Yeah, but if you want to see Kaylani. She's gonna
38:06
Speaker 3: be performing at our jingle Ball in Miami and our
38:09
Speaker 3: jingle Ball in Atlanta. All right, so get your tickets.
38:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to do Yeah.
38:14
Speaker 3: We're gonna get into this single right now. Let's get
38:16
Speaker 3: into the single right now. We appreciate you for joining us.
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Speaker 2: Thank you. We always get real deep in here.
38:21
Speaker 3: One time Kaylanie didn't want to come up, and she's like,
38:22
Speaker 3: I ain't with the Breakfast.
38:24
Speaker 2: I was scared, you guys, scared of his mother.
38:25
Speaker 3: But we got through it.
38:27
Speaker 2: We were having different conversations then yes, I look at us.
38:31
Speaker 3: Growth Absolutely, let's get into the single right now. Here's
38:35
Speaker 3: out the window. It's Kaylanie is right, yes, you guys,
38:39
Speaker 3: it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, every day, Breakfast Club