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Offseason Wrap up and Next Up is Opening of the Miller Electric Center | Huddle Up: Wednesday, June 14 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: The Fields Onto Group proudly presents Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks,
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Speaker 1: j P Shadrick, John Oser and NFL Network analyst and
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Speaker 1: former Jaguar Bucky Brooks bring you the latest on your
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Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jack Rocks.
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Speaker 2: We're not done. We're going to continue to work to
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Speaker 2: build this team to make his as potent as we
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Speaker 2: can going into the regular season.
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Speaker 1: Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks starts right now.
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Speaker 2: Welcome into the Huddle Up Podcast as the final edition
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Speaker 2: before training camp. At his Wednesday June fourteenth, JAFT, Shadrick,
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Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks, John Oser, the off season program has come
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Speaker 2: to an end after mandatory mini camp, well mandatory for some.
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Speaker 3: Not for Bucky event apparently not. Yeah, I mean he
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Speaker 3: wrote a check with his mouth that he didn't cash.
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Speaker 3: Talked about how important.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought of I thought it was gonna be canceled.
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Speaker 5: I was.
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Speaker 4: I was told that it was. These portions in the
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Speaker 4: workouts were going to be canceled.
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Speaker 3: And so for veteran, well, I guess you're a veteran.
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Speaker 2: You are a VET.
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Speaker 3: Aside you're a VET.
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Speaker 4: So I didn't maybe playing. I was ready, I had
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Speaker 4: all my gear lined up.
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Speaker 5: I was ready.
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Speaker 4: To go and said, I didn't tell you up, but
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Speaker 4: I thought it was gonna be canceled.
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Speaker 2: Think again, right, the Jaguars were out there. Some of
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Speaker 2: the Jaguars were out there. There were a few vets
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Speaker 2: involved the last three days, Josh Allen most notably, who
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Speaker 2: was not here during the voluntary portion of the offseason.
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Speaker 2: Doug Peterson said that those players who had been around
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Speaker 2: for the offseason program were excused from this mandatory mini camp. Well,
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Speaker 2: Josh was not around. There were a few other vets in.
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Speaker 2: Devin Lloyd, second year player Chad Mumma was around. Second
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Speaker 2: year player Calvin Ridley was here. He's coming off an
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Speaker 2: injury of a little slight injury in the in the
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Speaker 2: off season, nothing to be concerned about. But any guys
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Speaker 2: that are nicked up and needed to be around, they
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Speaker 2: kept them around and did some things with them there.
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Speaker 2: And of course all the rookies were involved here. Let's
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Speaker 2: start with Josh though don first chance to see him
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Speaker 2: in this offseason in person, you would expect him to
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Speaker 2: be in fantastic shape. He's not gonna sit on the
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Speaker 2: couch and eat Cheetos. That's not his m O. But
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Speaker 2: and it's obviously an important season for him, and he
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Speaker 2: was back in the fold, back in the building and
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Speaker 2: excited to be here.
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Speaker 3: It felt like, yeah, it's all relative. Josh in awful
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Speaker 3: shape is a specimen, so it's not like you're gonna
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Speaker 3: look at him and say, boy, he looks bad. But
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Speaker 3: he looked good. He looked in shape. I thought, maybe
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Speaker 3: the most if there's any significance at all this morning,
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Speaker 3: meaning Wednesday morning, when Doug was speaking to the media,
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Speaker 3: he was asked about Josh, and I forget exactly what
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Speaker 3: he said, but you could tell that he was impressed
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Speaker 3: with the work he had done, that he looked ready.
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Speaker 3: You know, I'm sure Doug would have rather had him here.
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Speaker 3: But when Josh misses off season work, it's not a
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Speaker 3: message to the team. He's not trying to prove any point.
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Speaker 3: He is. You know, he's one of these guys who's
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Speaker 3: honestly looking for a way to maximize himself. You know it.
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Speaker 3: It's done for the right reasons, if you follow me.
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Speaker 3: So I thought it looked good. It's a career year
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Speaker 3: and we'll see where it goes in training camp.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I'm glad that he showed up. And for coaches,
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Speaker 4: what happens. I mean, if you ask any coach, they
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Speaker 4: want everyone there one hundred percent attendance. But what the
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Speaker 4: mentory mini camp is is really a check in is
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Speaker 4: if one of your veterans comes in and they're out
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Speaker 4: of shape, the conditioning isn't right, it kind of sends
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Speaker 4: up a.
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Speaker 5: Bit of a flag.
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Speaker 4: Hey, we need to make sure we get on this
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Speaker 4: guy to give him because you have six weeks before
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Speaker 4: training camp.
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Speaker 5: Hey man, you need to get on over the next
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Speaker 5: six weeks to make sure that you're ready to go.
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Speaker 4: And so Josh Allen comes in, he looks in shape,
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Speaker 4: he understands what's going on. He has to kind of
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Speaker 4: have the refreshed when it comes to the playbook. But
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Speaker 4: if all signs a go and he gets it, you
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Speaker 4: don't worry about it. And so Doug has always been
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Speaker 4: kind of chill. He's always maintained at every turn he
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Speaker 4: is volunteer.
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Speaker 5: Those guys have the opportunity to do their own thing.
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Speaker 4: We like to have everybody here, but if they're not here,
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Speaker 4: it's one of those things and we can understand it.
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Speaker 5: And so I think he handled it the right way.
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Speaker 4: Josh is there, Josh's good, that's great.
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Speaker 2: There will be the storyline though when training camp comes.
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Speaker 2: You said it, John, it is a career or a
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Speaker 2: contract year for him. It's the final year of his
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Speaker 2: rookie contract, so you know that may or may not
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Speaker 2: be a storyline. I think it will be a storyline
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Speaker 2: once camp begins, But you know, I don't think there's
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Speaker 2: any push to go to the negotiating table from the
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Speaker 2: team perspective right now. And you know, he was great
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Speaker 2: down the stretch the last four or five games of
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Speaker 2: the season, but you know, putting that together over the
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Speaker 2: first half of this season could say a lot about
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Speaker 2: how this could go.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm saying this for a while with
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Speaker 3: Josh every question I get. If the team called him
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Speaker 3: and gave him an absolute mega deal, I think he
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Speaker 3: would take and be happy with it, you know. But
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Speaker 3: I also think there's part of Josh that may not
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Speaker 3: want to do a deal yet because from talking to
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Speaker 3: Josh over the years you talk as much as I
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Speaker 3: do JP, I think he believes that there is more
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Speaker 3: in him than he has shown. There are more statistics
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Speaker 3: in him than he has shown. So I think he
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Speaker 3: would and he sort of feels somewhere inside him and
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Speaker 3: he'd be cheating himself if if he didn't go after
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Speaker 3: the contract that he can make a lot of money
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Speaker 3: this year. I think he wants to be in Jacksonville.
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Speaker 3: I think it'd be very hard for the team. And
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Speaker 3: this is interesting and I'll throw it over to the
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Speaker 3: salary cap expert here in a minute, but it'll be
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Speaker 3: interesting if he has a huge year. A lot of
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Speaker 3: people have written him off and assuming they won't be
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Speaker 3: back if he has a huge year. He's a guy
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Speaker 3: who's who's always healthy, except when he was had a
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Speaker 3: major injury. Always there. You trust this guy. If he
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Speaker 3: has a huge year, all of a sudden he ascends
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Speaker 3: to an elite edge guy, it's hard to let that go,
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Speaker 3: no matter how much it costs. You may have to
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Speaker 3: rearrange cap and keep him because he's all ready no
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Speaker 3: matter what he does, he's going to be a huge
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Speaker 3: free agent if he hasn't signed here. Absolutely, if he
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Speaker 3: has a big year, he's one of the bigger freedoms
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Speaker 3: of hitting a long time. I think they got to
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Speaker 3: find a way to keep him if he has a
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Speaker 3: monster year.
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Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, ideally, you want to keep all
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Speaker 4: your top draft picks, and I don't think there's a
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Speaker 4: thing where the Jaguars don't want to keep Josh and
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Speaker 4: they don't want to pay him, but certainly you want
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Speaker 4: a production equal to equal the compensation. And so if
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Speaker 4: he has a big year, then yes you have to
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Speaker 4: dig a little deeper and may write a bigger check.
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Speaker 4: But I think you will kindly do that if he
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Speaker 4: plays well and at least to more playoff success for
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Speaker 4: the team, And so everyone understands what it is. Josh
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Speaker 4: understands what it is he's playing and what his essence is.
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Speaker 5: Approve it year.
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Speaker 4: I mean, if he proves that he can be a
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Speaker 4: dominant player, then yeah, you give him the cash. It
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Speaker 4: may cost you a little more, but I don't fall
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Speaker 4: the Jaguars saying, hey man, let's wait and see what
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Speaker 4: this looks like before we get a deal.
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Speaker 3: None Bucky Josh is often criticized in this market because
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Speaker 3: he hasn't been a monster SAT guy. Only one double
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Speaker 3: digit I maintain, and I'm I'm sure I said on
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Speaker 3: this show in JP News where I'm going with it,
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Speaker 3: out of all the Jaguars defensive players last year, he
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Speaker 3: was the guy that I least wanted to lose, you know,
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Speaker 3: And I don't care about the numbers whatever else. Maybe
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Speaker 3: other people had bigger PFF grades, but it's hard to
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Speaker 3: replace that if he's not on the field, and that's
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Speaker 3: what they'll be dealing with next Offseason's time to make
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Speaker 3: a decision too. Maybe the numbers aren't there, you let
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Speaker 3: this guy go, You're trying to find another one the
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Speaker 3: next day.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, So there are a few different things when you
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Speaker 4: think about Josh Allen as it relates to the Jaguars. One,
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Speaker 4: he was a top pick. Two, he's has exceptional football care.
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Speaker 4: He is everything that you want in terms of a
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Speaker 4: teammate as a leader. He does all the right things,
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Speaker 4: says all the right things, and he's really tried doing
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Speaker 4: I always say a series of trying times in terms
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Speaker 4: of multiple coaching changes in those things. You would love
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Speaker 4: the production to be to the point where's look, it's
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Speaker 4: clear and a parent that he needs to be paid
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Speaker 4: to be the guy, but dependent upon how he plays
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Speaker 4: this year, maybe there's a middle ground. Maybe there's that
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Speaker 4: that that ground that you can find and say, hey,
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Speaker 4: we may overpay a little bit for your own guy
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Speaker 4: because he is such a good guy in the locker
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Speaker 4: room and those things. And so as the Jaguars are
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Speaker 4: continue to put the keep this nucleus together of what
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Speaker 4: appears to be a really good culture team. Josh Allen
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Speaker 4: certainly should be in play. It's about finding that that
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Speaker 4: that the happy meeting where both sides are satisfied when
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Speaker 4: it comes to the compensation and the production that they're
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Speaker 4: getting from the player.
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Speaker 3: Yeh JP. It's as tough as spot as I can remember,
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Speaker 3: because I understand people who say, you can't resign him
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Speaker 3: if his production is the.
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Speaker 2: Same this year, paying him the massive money, right, And I.
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Speaker 3: Understand that that may be the decision of the franchise
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Speaker 3: and that means because.
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Speaker 2: He's got a lot of bills due beyond him.
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Speaker 3: And I think it's a tough spot because I think
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Speaker 3: they probably feel the same way. Hey, we love this guy.
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Speaker 3: The problem is if he has an eight sack year
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Speaker 3: this year. I would be surprised if they can find
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Speaker 3: a middle ground because I'm sure who Josh's representation is
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Speaker 3: going to be saying, well, that's great that the team
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Speaker 3: would like him back, get a good deal, but somebody's
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Speaker 3: gonna pay this guy. So that's what the nf as,
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Speaker 3: what free agency is.
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Speaker 2: Other teams will have room for that yeah, and we'll.
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Speaker 3: Say, well, he only got eight there, he's gonna get
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Speaker 3: more than that here free That happens in free see
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Speaker 3: all the time. So it's a tough spot. I keeping
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Speaker 3: my fingers crossed that he has a huge year and
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Speaker 3: the team feels the same way because, as you know, JP,
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Speaker 3: if you're around Josh, you love the guy. He's a
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Speaker 3: wonderful guy to be around. And I hope he's here.
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Speaker 3: We'll see what happens.
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Speaker 5: No, here's here's the thing about Josh Allen.
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Speaker 4: This year, if the offense performs up to expectation, he
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Speaker 4: should have more opportunities to sack the quarterback than he's
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Speaker 4: ever had. You know, it's hard to really get after
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Speaker 4: the quarterback when your team is down and you're facing
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Speaker 4: teams that don't have to necessarily put it up. But
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Speaker 4: this year, if the offense puts up the kind of
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Speaker 4: points that we expect, the opponents will be chasing points
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Speaker 4: and so then it's on Josh to prove that he
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Speaker 4: can be a finisher and a closer, because what you're
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Speaker 4: paying for is you're paying for his ability to close
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Speaker 4: games out in the fourth quarter, games on the line,
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Speaker 4: the offense has done his job defense has to get
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Speaker 4: off the field. That's when Josh Allen has to deliver
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Speaker 4: some splash plays. And so as much as we talk
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Speaker 4: about wanted to have him, he has to do his part.
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Speaker 4: He has to make a handful of critical plays. So
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Speaker 4: everyone is convinced that he can't be the closer that
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Speaker 4: you need.
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Speaker 2: Let's Shuddle Up podcast, JP Shatterick, John Oser, Bucky Brooks.
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Speaker 2: Let's switch to the offensive line now, and of course
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Speaker 2: Cam Robinson was around in this offseason program. Most of
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Speaker 2: the time. There's still that lingering suspension out there. No
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Speaker 2: word or on a timetable for the announcement of that
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Speaker 2: or how long it will be. The team is not
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Speaker 2: involved in that process. They just kind of have to
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Speaker 2: wait and see. I believe it'll probably be on the
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Speaker 2: Friday before the fourth of July week and about four
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Speaker 2: o'clock is when the announcement. Usually those kind of things
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Speaker 2: come down at times like that. That's my personal belief.
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Speaker 2: We'll see what happens. But you've got a plan for
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Speaker 2: certain things in the offensive line, and that's what this
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Speaker 2: last two three four weeks have been about, working different
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Speaker 2: guys in different spots. We know Anton Harrison has been
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Speaker 2: over at the right side. That's likely the spot Walker
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Speaker 2: little played left when Cam was hurt last year down
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Speaker 2: the stretch played well there. But Press Taylor said the
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Speaker 2: other day that Walker has been working inside a little
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Speaker 2: bit as well at guard. Maybe a scenarios in play
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Speaker 2: that whenever Cam Robinson is back in the fold, he
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Speaker 2: could jump in, Walker could move, vice versa. A lot
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Speaker 2: of money going to Cam Robinson. So there's all these
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Speaker 2: scenarios on the offensive line, Bucky, but they're deep, let's
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Speaker 2: put it that way. That's a good problem. At least
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Speaker 2: they have the personnel to be able to maneuver or
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Speaker 2: ideally maneuver some things around. We'll find out a whole
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Speaker 2: lot more in training camp when pads go on, that's
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Speaker 2: when you really know about the whole lot.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's when you know about them.
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Speaker 4: But this is a great time to experiment, to give
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Speaker 4: guys reps at multiple positions, to kind of begin to
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Speaker 4: kind of set what we call the emergency board in
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Speaker 4: your mind. If this happens, who would go whatever? If
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Speaker 4: this happens, and this happens, then who's the next guy
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Speaker 4: to going to the game. You want to work through
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Speaker 4: all those scenarios as much as you can in the preseason,
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Speaker 4: so if it does happen in the regular season, you
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Speaker 4: feel very, very comfortable about the lineups. You give those
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Speaker 4: guys enough reps where they feel comfortable because the offensive line,
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Speaker 4: unlike the rest of the team, they have to operate
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Speaker 4: five as one, and so you want to make sure
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Speaker 4: you get all those guys enough said the spots that
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Speaker 4: they could potentially plan. So everyone has a good feel
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Speaker 4: for what these different lineup changes look like.
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Speaker 5: But I'm really encouraged walk a little.
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Speaker 4: Being a guy that can bounce around and play multiple spots,
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Speaker 4: he should definitely help. And when you think about the
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Speaker 4: depth that the Jaguars certainly have, now you should feel
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Speaker 4: good about the offensive line.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I think they feel like it's a strength. I played
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Speaker 3: like a strength. And it's interesting when we talked to
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Speaker 3: the assistant coaches last week, last Wednesday or Thursday, thing
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Speaker 3: it was in talking to Phil Rousher, the offensive line coach.
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Speaker 3: I think he feels like a lot of people, They've
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Speaker 3: got a bunch of good guys that they trust, and
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Speaker 3: now they just got to figure out sort of where
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Speaker 3: they're going to play him and win. I would be
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Speaker 3: surprised if the scenario is not to start the season,
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Speaker 3: Walker Little left Ben Bartch assuming health and left guard,
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Speaker 3: and then the other side sort of said Anton Harrison,
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Speaker 3: He's going to start a right tackle and then you've
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Speaker 3: got and Fortner and then when Cam comes back, I
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Speaker 3: think Walker Little and move inside, and then Cam will
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Speaker 3: play out his his his deal next year. And I
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Speaker 3: think everybody's assuming Kim will be back. I don't know
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Speaker 3: if that's true or not, but if you assume that
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Speaker 3: that's true, then Walker probably kicks back out to left
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Speaker 3: tackle knowing he can play it, and they figure out
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Speaker 3: left guard. Maybe it's Bartch again, you know. So that
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Speaker 3: feels like the default mode, if you will. And my
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Speaker 3: sense is something dramatic would have to happen to knock
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Speaker 3: them off that like it. If Walker Little's the best
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Speaker 3: left tackle in football for the first four games, then
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Speaker 3: maybe they have a little more trouble making that happen.
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Speaker 3: But that feels like the logical thing to do, if
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Speaker 3: only because Cam's been a left tackle in the NFL
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Speaker 3: for seven years now seventy eight, that's right, So I
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Speaker 3: think that would be the thing that they.
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Speaker 2: Would do, and he's getting paid to play that position.
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Speaker 3: Right, And that theory as soon as games start, who
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Speaker 3: knows what happens.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I mean if they're let's just say it's
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Speaker 2: six games, it Cam's out.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: If they're five and one and rolling teams on offensive line,
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Speaker 2: don't mess with it, right, you got to roll the
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Speaker 2: ball out again in week seven, right, I mean that's
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Speaker 2: how it would work, right, Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Yeah. Now, so this is a great opportunity.
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Speaker 4: You know, you talk about Walker a little having a
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Speaker 4: great opportunity to show people what he could be. It's
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Speaker 4: a little peak at what it could be this year,
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Speaker 4: but also what the future could hold. Because if you
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Speaker 4: have Walker Little, and let's just fast forward and say
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Speaker 4: you feel like Walker Little is comparable to what you're
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Speaker 4: getting from Cam Robinson, well, then you can free yourself
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Speaker 4: up to allocate those funds elsewhere when you have other
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Speaker 4: guys to come up from free agency.
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Speaker 5: We have to know at the end of this year, Trevor.
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Speaker 4: Lawrence will be eligible to begin talking about a blockbuster
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Speaker 4: deal that it should pay him over fifty million annually.
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Speaker 5: And so there are a lot of things that you
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Speaker 5: have to get in place.
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Speaker 4: And so for a handful of these guys, they're not
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Speaker 4: only playing for their jobs, but they're playing for the
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Speaker 4: opportunity to be around for the long term because the
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Speaker 4: money changes and the pieces of the puzzle.
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Speaker 5: Will have to change around it.
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Speaker 4: When you think about the salary cap and the pie
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Speaker 4: and having to pay a quarterback a big money deal.
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Speaker 2: to the Huddle Up Podcast. JP Shadwick, John Osier, Baki
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Speaker 2: Brooks for the final time in the offseason. Program will
16:57
Speaker 2: take about a five week hiatus and then they be
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Speaker 2: back at it. So the first week of training camp
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Speaker 2: that's late July, the team reports and then they'll report
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Speaker 2: in a new building the middle of Electric Center, due
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Speaker 2: to open officially July. First, the Jags get the keys
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Speaker 2: the final day of June, that's what was today the fourteenth,
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Speaker 2: So two weeks out yeah, and then they'll finish it
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Speaker 2: up and then they'll start moving. Doug Peterson said on Wednesday, Hey, yeah,
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Speaker 2: we fill our boxes of our offices on our own
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Speaker 2: and then the subte of the moving company moves everybody
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Speaker 2: over there. But that process has begun, so it will
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Speaker 2: be a lot of behind the scenes folks doing a
17:38
Speaker 2: lot of work the first couple weeks of June or July,
17:41
Speaker 2: excuse me, to get the team moved in, and then
17:44
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks off for those guys, and then
17:46
Speaker 2: training camp starts so they'll be ready to roll in
17:48
Speaker 2: the new building and that means training camps over there too,
17:52
Speaker 2: So looking forward to a new space. Final practice was
17:55
Speaker 2: today on the game field, so Nick Fetawa, who does
17:58
Speaker 2: the field out here. Year, they've had to put in
18:01
Speaker 2: so many new surfaces, keep it up to date for
18:04
Speaker 2: practice during the week, the game College and Pro on
18:08
Speaker 2: Saturday and Sunday. They replaced that surface so many times
18:12
Speaker 2: and a lot of work went into that to that
18:14
Speaker 2: last year while the team had to practice on the
18:16
Speaker 2: game field, that's no more. The practice fields will be
18:19
Speaker 2: open finally.
18:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a crazy thing. I think everybody here can
18:23
Speaker 3: sort of relate to it at JP. You've been walking
18:27
Speaker 3: the rubber hallway out here talking to coaching in their
18:31
Speaker 3: offices for you know, ten years. I can remember, you know,
18:36
Speaker 3: the same offices essentially for football. We're here in ninety
18:40
Speaker 3: five when I first covered the team, when Bucky played
18:42
Speaker 3: in ninety six ninety seven. So it will be a
18:47
Speaker 3: strange thing to see the Jaguars operating out of a
18:51
Speaker 3: different place. People who've been around it forever, it's it
18:56
Speaker 3: makes you feel a little old, that kind of thing's
18:58
Speaker 3: going away. But I don't think there's any question. Anybody
19:01
Speaker 3: who's been around the facility lately will tell you it's time.
19:06
Speaker 3: You've got to get them in a new facility. It's
19:08
Speaker 3: time to turn the page on the past, appreciate the
19:10
Speaker 3: past what it was. We'll miss the rubber hallway, but
19:15
Speaker 3: it's time. It's time to go state of the art,
19:17
Speaker 3: and this thing is going to be just that buggy.
19:20
Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks fantastic. I mean it looks fantastic. All
19:23
Speaker 4: the renderings and just a little bit that I've been
19:25
Speaker 4: able to see from Afar, it looks terrific. And I
19:28
Speaker 4: can tell you from a coaches and player standpoint, there's
19:30
Speaker 4: nothing like have an opportunity to play and a new
19:33
Speaker 4: facility to run around grass is perfect. You have all
19:36
Speaker 4: the things and then the amenities that go along with it.
19:39
Speaker 4: You got the grand stand where they can have fans
19:43
Speaker 4: and spectators watch practice, and so that is terrific. And
19:46
Speaker 4: then just think about all the things that will be
19:48
Speaker 4: in the new offices, the innovations and technology that you
19:51
Speaker 4: can tap into. So let's say it's been long overdue,
19:55
Speaker 4: but yeah, it's great to kind of see this come
19:57
Speaker 4: to fruition.
19:58
Speaker 5: It's only a couple weeks away from everyone able to
20:00
Speaker 5: get into it.
20:01
Speaker 3: Remember the scene in Bull Durham JP when they were
20:03
Speaker 3: talking about the show. Oh yeah, I mean and not
20:07
Speaker 3: to be to decide about it. But this facility is
20:13
Speaker 3: old and it doesn't feel like a lot of facilities
20:16
Speaker 3: in the NFL anymore. And when you're in the NFL,
20:20
Speaker 3: you're at the top of your profession. You're in the
20:23
Speaker 3: highest profile sports league in America. It's supposed to feel
20:27
Speaker 3: like that, and the new training facility will feel like that.
20:32
Speaker 3: And that for all the people who sort of anti
20:35
Speaker 3: I don't understand why you have to do it, that's
20:38
Speaker 3: just sort of what you got to do to be
20:40
Speaker 3: in this business these days, and they will be back
20:43
Speaker 3: on the cutting edge. When this thing was first built,
20:45
Speaker 3: this was cutting edge, sure it was. But you know what,
20:49
Speaker 3: in ninety five I was cutting edge too.
20:51
Speaker 1: Yeah.
20:51
Speaker 2: You probably used AOL dial up there too, so that
20:54
Speaker 2: was also cutting edge.
20:55
Speaker 3: So it's a new time and it's.
20:58
Speaker 2: Time compu sir, whatever you use.
21:01
Speaker 3: I had a CompuServe account paid monthly.
21:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you had the little CD you had to
21:07
Speaker 2: put in.
21:07
Speaker 5: The wow wow, just taking it all the way back. Yeah.
21:13
Speaker 2: Well, now that's the first step though, in the idea
21:17
Speaker 2: of the stadium of the future, the first step was
21:19
Speaker 2: the Miller Electric Center to get the football team out
21:23
Speaker 2: of the current facility. The next step is the front
21:26
Speaker 2: office and then you can begin the refurbishment of the stadium.
21:31
Speaker 2: And that process has continued. Now the renderings are out
21:35
Speaker 2: the idea is out there, the design initially is out
21:38
Speaker 2: there from the Jaguars, and now it's off to the
21:41
Speaker 2: public feedback portion of it. The community huddles are underway.
21:45
Speaker 2: There've been a couple as of the taping of this podcast,
21:48
Speaker 2: there are fourteen total. Two in the books already. Mark
21:51
Speaker 2: Lamping gives detail of what their thoughts of the stadium
21:56
Speaker 2: of the future should be and why and I tell
21:59
Speaker 2: you to the one yesterday and Mandarin. It was overflowing
22:03
Speaker 2: with people at the Ramata down there on Hartley Road.
22:06
Speaker 2: I believe about one hundred and fifty people by my estimation,
22:09
Speaker 2: standing room only an hour and a half. A lot
22:12
Speaker 2: of questions from people at the end. Mark's lamping is
22:16
Speaker 2: open to any of those questions, answered them all with grace,
22:20
Speaker 2: even the negative ideas that might have come along. And
22:25
Speaker 2: that's what these are designed for, for feedback both ways,
22:28
Speaker 2: so the team can hear, you know, what they need
22:31
Speaker 2: to maybe adjust or an approach for the future.
22:33
Speaker 3: Yeah, and for people who may have forgotten or never knew.
22:38
Speaker 3: Mark knows that not everybody is going to be coming
22:43
Speaker 3: to these things are waving the new stadium flag and saying, hey,
22:47
Speaker 3: this is great. He's been down this road.
22:49
Speaker 2: He is.
22:51
Speaker 3: He was president of Saint Louis Baseball Cardinals when they
22:53
Speaker 3: did did a new facility, and he essentially built MetLife
22:59
Speaker 3: in New York by himself, but he had some help,
23:02
Speaker 3: but he he was the guy.
23:03
Speaker 2: He's the point guy.
23:04
Speaker 3: He spearheaded that. So he knows that public opinion and
23:11
Speaker 3: misinformation and questions and information is critical. So when you
23:16
Speaker 3: asked me a question about it, he's not going to
23:17
Speaker 3: be defensive. It's not going to be all hey, just
23:19
Speaker 3: has to be this way. And whenever I listen to
23:23
Speaker 3: Mark talk about this, I feel like I know a
23:25
Speaker 3: little bit about these issues. All always come away incredibly enlightened.
23:33
Speaker 3: So I think it's worth people's time to go. I
23:35
Speaker 3: guess what I'm getting at, And if you have a
23:38
Speaker 3: legitimate question, you're going to get a detailed answer. And
23:42
Speaker 3: I know from experienced like people don't listen to detailed
23:44
Speaker 3: answers in this day and age. Yeah, but he's going
23:46
Speaker 3: to give you the answer, and you know you'll find
23:49
Speaker 3: out what you want to find out if you go
23:50
Speaker 3: to these things.
23:51
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is great.
23:53
Speaker 4: I think is great for him to interrate, great for
23:56
Speaker 4: the team to interact with the community and kind of
23:57
Speaker 4: hear not only the positive but also to hear the
24:00
Speaker 4: negatives in the support because as you're trying to get
24:03
Speaker 4: all this done and you're trying to really tie the
24:05
Speaker 4: team to the community, to the community, you want to
24:08
Speaker 4: know what the community thinks. And so I applaud the
24:12
Speaker 4: Jackson were putting themselves out there for having a series
24:14
Speaker 4: of these town hall huddles where people are coming and
24:17
Speaker 4: listing and everyone is getting excited about it. Look, man,
24:21
Speaker 4: the renderings are fantastic, and so if that stadium was
24:25
Speaker 4: the fruition looking like it does in those pitches, and
24:28
Speaker 4: I can't wait to see it.
24:29
Speaker 2: The questions varied, at least yesterday anywhere from you know,
24:34
Speaker 2: past projects around the league, how they compare, to you know,
24:39
Speaker 2: what's going to happen to my property taxes? To about
24:43
Speaker 2: a ten year old kid asking is Jackson Deville still
24:46
Speaker 2: going to zipline into the stadium? That's a good question,
24:49
Speaker 2: and Mark Lamping said, yes, yes you will, okay, so
24:53
Speaker 2: they'll find a way. So you're getting questions from all
24:57
Speaker 2: across the board. This is the fine. I don't heuddle
25:00
Speaker 2: up podcasts for the next five weeks. We'll be back
25:02
Speaker 2: the first week of training camp when the Jaguars hit
25:05
Speaker 2: the field at the Miller Electric Center. So Bucky what
25:09
Speaker 2: he got the next month and a half? What's up?
25:12
Speaker 5: But you got a little vacation. You know, you got
25:14
Speaker 5: a little vacation time.
25:15
Speaker 4: So we'll we'll take them time off because you know,
25:17
Speaker 4: once we get to training campus on and popping. So
25:20
Speaker 4: I gotta figure out a few spots that I need
25:22
Speaker 4: to visit see if I can relax and put my
25:23
Speaker 4: feet up for a little bit.
25:24
Speaker 3: You know now, Doug said today, Bucky, it's important to
25:28
Speaker 3: maintain your physicality and to run. Will you be maintaining
25:33
Speaker 3: your physicality.
25:34
Speaker 4: We'll be maintaining my physicality and everything. I'll make sure
25:37
Speaker 4: my conditioning is up to part like just like the players.
25:40
Speaker 4: I'm trying to get in shape for the season. I
25:41
Speaker 4: want to be in world class shape when the season starts.
25:44
Speaker 4: So yes, I'm a hold of Miami at the bargain
25:46
Speaker 4: for that peach.
25:48
Speaker 2: Anybody knows about world class shape.
25:50
Speaker 3: Which, well, yeah, JP will also be maintaining.
25:57
Speaker 2: Yes, it'll be a fun five weeks. John, enjoy those
26:02
Speaker 2: five you as well.
26:03
Speaker 3: Buck. We'll see us INVETI all remember with you, guys.
26:06
Speaker 2: Thanks to Brent Reebert, Joe Fortunado. That's Bucky Brooks, Shohn Oz,
26:09
Speaker 2: I'm JP Shadwick. Thank you for listening. Enjoy the summer.
26:12
Speaker 2: It's the Huddle Up Podcast.