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Ep. 53 - SeS New Owner Series: Part 2- QH Racing Talk Weekly Podcast · StallioneSearch Podcasts

• 0:01
  SPEAKER_02: It's Quarter Horse Racing Talk Weekly for Wednesday, March 18th.
• 0:06
  SPEAKER_02: It's become the weekly habit for quarter horse racing fans and industry folks.
• 0:10
  SPEAKER_02: If you are already addicted to this podcast, well, we are sorry not sorry.
• 0:15
  SPEAKER_02: Introducing our host, Greg Thompson and co-host Bailey Ivy.
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_02: It's Quarter Horse Racing Talk Weekly.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_04: And hello again, everyone.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_04: I'm Greg Thompson, AustallianESearch.com here for Quarter Horse Racing Talk Weekly.
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_12: And I'm Bailey Ivy.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_04: Bailey, the older horse action this past weekend at Remington Park was a sight to behold for me.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_04: The East Tech stakes as well as a Deccetta taking place.
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_04: I can't wait to get to the racing recap section to talk about those big graded stakes.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_04: And I think we got a great show here as we're going to continue this educational series that we're putting on for new incoming owners into the sport.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_12: Yes, Greg, we touched base on this last week.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_12: For a lot of people that didn't tune in, you definitely should go back and listen to it.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_12: Getting started in the racing industry, it can feel overwhelming and just having the right guidance and the right people around you can go a long way.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_04: Bailey, you know, when I know that we're actually hitting the mark on some of the uh podcasts is when I start getting inquiries from some people that I haven't heard from in a while of where can I go and listen to the podcast and what have you.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_04: And I've received several of those from this past week's podcast on the new owners entering into the sport.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_04: So I feel like we're hitting the spot.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_12: Our goal was to help people understand the sport just a little bit better and encourage more people to get involved and enjoy everything that quarter horse racing has to offer.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_04: You know, most people that you talk with that are trying to enter into the sport just find it daunting because there's just not what they feel is a tremendous amount of assets out there in order to learn or to get educated about the sport.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_04: So that's one of our main goals of the series is to try to provide some of that information or at least maybe give them an opportunity to go and ask this person or go ask that person if they don't know.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_12: We've had a lot to talk about on this episode, and there were trials happening in New Mexico this past weekend, and we're also gonna look ahead to the Oklahoma Fachurti, Oklahoma Derby, and the grade one Paint and Appaloosa Stakes this weekend at Remington Park.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_04: It's a big racing action up there in Oklahoma City.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_04: And in our featured section this week, Bailey, we're going to talk to multiple trainers about once they have attracted this new owner into the sport.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_04: What direction do they actually give that new owner?
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_04: Is it the yearling route or is it the claiming route?
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_04: And and I'm going to kind of spread the field here.
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  SPEAKER_12: What do you mean by that?
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_04: Well, what I mean is that I have several different trainers and and when they take their approach, they have several different directions as well as maybe several different levels of clientele of what their budget is to actually go to, say, like a horse sale or to go out and claim a horse and get started into the industry.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_04: I think that if we take a wide swath of how horsemen go and approach the yearling sales, then I think that obviously we'll give a lot of information out to there, to those new owners coming in and wanting to spend the money in the sport.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_12: Greg, you're kind of making me want to go into my savings and buy a yearling after hearing this episode.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, Bailey, I think you should start your own partnership, the Crown B Media partnership, where you go buy one horse and chop that horse up into 10 different sections and sell it off, and you have the big partnership and you're the partnership guru of Quarter Horse Racing.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_12: I like that idea.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_04: What percentage do I get of that?
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_12: Like 1%.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_04: A 1%.
• 3:50
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• 4:00
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  SPEAKER_04: Alright, we're back here on Quote Horse Racing Talk, ready to get into our first featured guest in our featured guest section, and that's trainer Kenny Roberts, a former world champion, and a multiple grade one winner pretty much throughout the entire country.
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  SPEAKER_04: Kenny's won multiple graded stakes, especially in the state of Louisiana where he is based, but Kenny's actually a native Texan, raised in Houston, but has been training for decades upon decades and counts wins in the All-American Derby with I Hear a Symphony as one of his largest outside of the state of Louisiana, but has won the Louisiana Million Futurity on multiple occasions, and also has brought in multiple new owners into the sport.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_04: And he shares his perspective of what direction he steers most of his new owners coming in in order to try to ensure as much success as possible.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_04: And without further ado, let's get Kenny on the phone here.
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  SPEAKER_04: Kenny Roberts, thanks so much for joining us here on Quarter Horse Racing Talk Podcast.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_08: Well, Greg, I'm glad to be there.
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_04: Kenny, we are focusing on what to do once you have attracted these new owners into the fold.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_04: There's two routes you can choose.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_04: You can either try to steer them to towards getting a claimer, and that way you've got an a potential of getting them in the game within weeks of making a claim, or you can go the yearling route, but with a a new owner going the yearling route, that's you know, you buy something in the summer, you're going to be looking at the spring before you actually see the horse go down the racetrack.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_04: So what is it that you kind of over the years taken as a direction of, say, like with a new owner coming into the sport?
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_08: Well, on my end, I always started buying yearless.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_08: I I really, you know, only way that I could sell or get someone in it if it was a horse that I already had in my possession that I know something about that I could probably turn a new owner on that probably would uh have something to advance and and have something that we think that'll do some good.
• 7:01
  SPEAKER_08: But I'm not the claimant type of person.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_08: So my my success has really come through from the urine.
• 7:09
  SPEAKER_08: So me myself, if I had to try to get someone in it, is to try to probably invest in a urine, but I would tell it from the get-go, you know, hey, this is what it's gonna take, this is how long it's gonna take, you're gonna have to sit back and wait.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_08: But you know, majority of the time that the people that you try to get in the business is people that are gonna put trust in you, you know.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_08: They're gonna trust you and your words and what you say about uh whatever horse you get, or you know, you letting them know and say this is what it takes.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_08: So let's do it this way and and let's see how it works out.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_08: But that's my judgment of it.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_08: I I'm I'm I'm the type I want to start with a yearling, you know.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_04: So, Kenny, you got this new owner interested in going into the sport.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_04: The first yearling sale comes out.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_04: You're very prolific there at the Louisiana sale, so let's take that.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_04: You you run majority-wise in Louisiana.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_04: Talk to me about it, how you welcome them to come get a catalog, come with me to the sale, walk around and look at these horses and all.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_04: Tell me about the importance of getting them involved in the making that feel like they're part of the actual process.
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_08: Well, first of all, I'm the type that I will tell him that, hey, I did my homework, I went to some forms, I looked at some babies, I had a chance to really look at them without the really having the pedigree right there.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_08: And I pick a few horses for him that I like and just try to get him involved.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_08: If uh by the time the sale comes around, you know, I have a chance to get with him and walk around with him and show him the horses that I had good faith in would do us some good in the business of uh buying a yearling.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_04: Once you got that individual to uh purchase a yearling and everything, what's kind of the pitfalls you work with them to try to avoid?
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_04: You know, uh you you mentioned earlier it's about uh I guess managing their expectations is what I'm trying to say.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_04: How much time do you spend on managing your young young owners or the new to the business?
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_04: How much time do you spend trying to manage their expectations of what to expect?
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_08: The the main thing is to try to get him to build trust in me.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_08: Trust me for more what I could do.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_08: I did this, I've done this.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_08: Hey, trust me, put your faith in the me.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_08: And and I let him know, hey, it don't work all the time, but hey, let's take a shot, let's try it.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_08: When I feel is is is not the horse is not gonna work.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_08: I'm gonna tell you ahead of time so we won't spend that much money on this animal, you know.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_08: Just put your trust into me.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_04: Kenny, talk about the things that you do in order to make this game fun for those young or new people that are coming into the sport.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_04: There's like you mentioned, the time you actually go to the sale is in the summer.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_04: Once they actually start attending the races, talk about how a trainer can kind of make it interesting and make it fun for them and and to make it enjoyable.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_04: Because the point, of course, is for them not to just have this one horse.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_04: The point is to continue to have them buying more horses and staying in the industry and keeping people employed, all the above.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_08: Well, probably the first thing to try to get him to come around a little bit and just kind of see how the program goes, see what we do.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_08: So they'll know what kind of work we go we go through each day and the stuff that we go through to try to get these horses ready for the children.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_08: And I think once they get involved to see what's going on and what kind of industry this is, and just let them get a little involved, just to come and visit, look around, and I try to show them different the different things that we do each day and just kind of get a little experience where they can kind of feel they involved with us.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_08: So they can kind of see what's going on.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_08: You know, once they see what's going on, I think they they will say, Yeah, I do a lot of hard work.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_08: Hey, I'm in it with you.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_08: Let's try it, and we'll go from there.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_04: Kenny, you go to multiple sales.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_04: You go to Heritage, I see you at Riadoso, and of course I see you in Louisiana.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_04: You predominantly run in Louisiana.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_04: Talk to the folks that are listening about the advantages that you have.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_04: Clearly, the first advantage is that jumps off the page in Louisiana is that you guys run pretty much year-round.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_04: You start in at Treeport in January and run all the way until the end of the year.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_04: Uh in mid-December, they're in the Louisiana million at Evangeline.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_04: So talk to me about the importance of you steer those folks that you bring into the business of running there in Louisiana.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_08: Well, I feel we have a lot to offer.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_08: We have uh good day racing uh for good money for Louisiana bread.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_08: We have uh good fraturities from March all the way through December.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_08: All year long.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_08: We have uh some kind of uh fraturity that's going on.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_08: We it's just a year-round racing, you know.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_08: We just have a lot to offer here in Louisiana.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_08: A lot to offer.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_04: Well, Kenny, we certainly appreciate you coming on, all those years of experience, all of the new people that you've brought into the industry over the years, and uh we certainly appreciate you kind of throwing all that information out to us here on the Quarter Horse Racing Podcast.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_04: I thank you, Greg, for uh getting me on.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_04: Talk to you soon.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_04: See you in Louisiana, Kenny.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_04: Thanks so much.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_04: All right, thank you, Greg.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_02: And we'll be right back after these words.
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• 14:01
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• 14:16
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• 14:21
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• 14:27
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• 14:41
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• 14:45
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• 14:51
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• 14:56
  SPEAKER_00: Alright, back to the podcast.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_04: Alright, we're back here on Quarter Horse Racing Talk Weekly, ready to get in with our second guest here on our featured guest segment.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_04: And it's another former world champion trainer in the form of Jason Olmsted.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_04: Now, Jason gives definitely a different perspective than Kenny because he does get involved in the claiming game, and he has steered new owners in that direction as they enter into the sport, but he also goes the yearling route with some of the newer owners that he's able to attract to the sport.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_04: And he also runs at different locations that Kenny does.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_04: Kenny is predominantly based in Louisiana.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_04: Jason goes all over.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_04: Jason goes from Oklahoma all the way to New Mexico, Texas, up to Prairie Meadows and Iowa, Indiana, all the way up to Minnesota, and occasionally it will go out there to California.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_04: So let's dive in with this discussion with Jason Olmsted here on Quarter Horse Racing Talk.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_04: Jason, thanks so much for joining us here on the Quarter Horse Racing Talk podcast.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_04: Thanks for having me.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_04: Jason, our focus is on what do we do with these new owners once we've attracted them, the direction that we take them in quarter horse racing that tries to give them some success.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_04: What is your direction as it pertains to these new owners of getting into the sport and and kind of hopefully ensuring some kind of level of success to keep them going?
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, the the main thing is to get these people interested and keep them interested.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_05: And I agree completely.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_05: Um, I think a lot of times you are better off to find a horse to claim for people like that because for one, the horse is already fit.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_05: He just had a race that you claimed him out of.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_05: You're looking at a two to three week turnaround to get him back in.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_05: And the biggest part of it is that person wants to see his horse run when they haven't been in this game and don't understand the that it it does take months to get a baby from sale time to race time, and a lot of people lose interest and they start twiddling their thumbs and they see money going out and nothing coming in.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_05: And and then if their first out is not a success as a as a two-year-old, then they really think, well, what have I done?
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_05: But our our goal when we get new clientele is is to feel them out, you know, lay it all out for them, explain to them here's what we can and can't do, and here's the time frame that that it looks like it'll take, or we can go the claiming route and you can run back in two to three weeks and and just let them decide what they want to do.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_04: Well, let's talk about that claiming direction, Jason, as it pertains to the type of horse you're targeting when you're going to put in a claim for, say, like a new owner there.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_04: Give us an example.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_04: Are you looking more for a horse that's say has all of his conditions as a maiden, or is it something that you're looking for that you know that can hit the winner circle and has done it in the past already for a different trainer and that maybe you can improve on that horse and and try to keep going that horse through his at least through his conditions?
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, me personally, it would be uh what your budget is to start with, what they're willing to spend, and then shopping for their best option from there.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_05: I always I always push for horses that are that have conditions.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_05: You know, maybe they've already broke their maiden, but you still have a non-two, non-three.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, they look like they're gonna be the type of horse that that you don't have to drop them down to win with them again.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_05: You can at least keep them at the same level or get lucky and move them up.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, a lot of times, say you're claiming a three-year-old at the beginning of the year at Remington.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, you can find a lot of those horses that they have made seconds and thirds as two-year-olds in trials and and just weren't quite enough to be a uh fraternity qualifier.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_05: And there's a lot of owners that they just want to get rid of those horses, but that doesn't mean they're bad horses.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_05: So those are the kinds I would look for.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_05: That way they can have fun with them.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_04: Jason, talk about some of the pitfalls as it pertains to the claiming, the claiming game.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_04: You're not one that stays stationary where you only run in Oklahoma.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_04: You're running in Oklahoma during the the spring, and then you go off to go up to Minnesota, you go off to to Prairie Meadows in Iowa, you're also down in New Mexico running on the mountain, or now would be Albuquerque.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_04: So kind of talk to me about some of the pitfalls that you've seen in the past to try to, I would guess if you were giving advice of some of the pitfalls to avoid in the claiming game, what would those be?
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_05: Horses with bad forms would be a definite no.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, another thing, I'd I'd stay away from horses that don't look like you're gonna have a resale value.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, obviously, everybody wants an apolitical gess or a flying cowboy or what have you.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_05: And those are obviously gonna cost more money, and and you're not necessarily gonna find them in the claiming ranks early on in their careers.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_05: But in comparison, you you want I look for better pedigrees at claiming because of the simple fact of resale value.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, if if it's a Philly great, maybe they can go on and and most of them hold their value pretty good nowadays with brood mares are are a great investment.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_05: I tell everybody they're like a savings account when we're buying buying mares because not many of them lose much value anymore if they have the right pedigree.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_05: The hardest part would be is is you're not gonna get to you won't get to do any vet checks and stuff like that.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_05: So it's kind of for the guys that want to sit around, do their homework, watch horses, people or watch other people's horses train and stuff like that.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, to play the claiming game, you kind of you gotta kind of be on the ball and and know what you're watching for.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_04: Switching gears, Jason, now that you kind of talk to a person that possibly you could have talked into going in the claiming direction, but I know there's those owners out there that the reason that they got into it, they want to buy the all-American fraturity winner.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_04: They want to chase after the trials and try to get into the finals.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_04: So when you have a new owner, how do you treat him any differently than an owner that's been established, that's that's been in the game for quite some time?
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_04: What is it that you're kind of doing differently for, say, a new owner that you're not wanting to see go through the thing a lot of owners do where they they get a horse, they pay all the nominations on this horse, and then something happens to the horse as it pertains to a physical element, and then they've really just kind of wasted a lot of money, it seems like, and got nothing back on their investment.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, being open and honest with people, no matter if it's uh your Bobby Coxes of the industry or the or the new guy that that came to you to find him a horse, all I can do is my best to at what I possibly can to provide the most fun for him at the level that they want to that they want to try and play at.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, really that's what it's all about.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_05: It's just being open and honest.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_05: And and if you can get that person that first win, we all know there's no Nothing like winning a horse race, no matter what level it is, at the end of the day, if you can get a win for somebody, they can have they can have a horrible week or month and a win changes everything.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_05: So getting that horse for that guy and winning a race for him might lead into you know, within a year's time, they get a feel for how horse racing really works, the ups and downs of horse racing.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, once they get a grasp for it, then you feel more comfortable going to the sales if if if they really got the horse racing bug and they want to keep playing, then you can start saying, well, here, how about the yearling route?
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_05: Here's how this works in comparison to the to the aged horse that's already running and and you don't have to go through all the growing pains of it.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_04: Jason, is your pursuit at a yearling sale kind of the same as what you mentioned in the claiming game where you're looking for stuff that keeps its value or holds a residual value?
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_04: Are you looking for the same type of value that you were talking about in the claiming game of something that's going to keep its value?
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, absolutely.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_05: Nowadays, a lot of people push for fillies nowadays because of that simple fact right there.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_05: They they are like a savings account.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_05: Even if that horse doesn't become a grade one winner, if she's bred right and has good pedigree, good family, and has any kind of reproduction throughout its catalog page, that horse is not gonna lose much value.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_05: And that allows that guy to either resell it or if he's in the breeding game to go ahead and breed it and what have you.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_05: But if he resells it, then that gives him money back to go buy another one and try again.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_05: And on the boys, the boys are the hard part because the boys, I mean, nothing for nothing.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_05: 90% of them are gonna get castrated, and as soon as you castrate them, they cut their value in half unless they become that grade one horse for sure.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_04: That you open up a new can of worms there, Jason, about talking about with a new owner, why do horsemen like yourself that have had the experience explain to these new owners of why a lot of these young males are are gelded in order to further their racing career?
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_05: Well, at the end of the day, I give every stud a chance that we buy it.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, we're very fortunate.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_05: We're by we get to buy the apolitical justice and the flying cowboys.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_05: So I give them all a chance.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, I go into it wholeheartedly hoping that they make it for that person.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, when the time comes that the horse tells me that they're not going to run while intact, I mean that that's a decision on the owner.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_05: And the simplest way I can put it to them is we can either have a stud horse that makes$500 or we can have a gilding that could make$500,000.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_05: Which way do you want to go?
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_05: And at the end of the day, most of them like the idea of being able to win and being competitive and having a$500,000 guilding instead.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_04: Jason, as I'm probably guilty of this as well in the past, of that I watch and try to learn, and then I get a catalog, and then I'm going to go to the sale and I'm going to pick out a runner at the level that you or Blaine Wood or or Mike Joyner or any of the numerous top-level horsemen I I feel like I have a fighting chance.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_04: I I'm assuming you've seen that as well.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_04: Like a person wants to bypass and purchase their own.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_04: What are some of the pitfalls that you've seen in the past of not taking direction from somebody that's been in the industry, that's that's gone through what they're going to face when they're picking something out to run?
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_04: What kind of suggestion would you give to a person that's going to try to do it on their own?
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_05: Confirmation.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, anybody that is willing to read and learn about this business can pick up a catalog and it's wrote out for you that, hey, this family has X amount of black type pedigree through its page.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, siblings have all been runners and all that, but that catalog page does not go down the racetrack.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_05: All that catalog page tells me is a ballpark of where we're going to start on price.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_05: And if the individual matches the catalog page, then the price is going to go up from there.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_05: But I think we're a lot of people they sit there and they they buy horses off of catalog pages, and a new person, their biggest downfall to that, in my opinion, is to have some if they don't know confirmation, to have somebody at least walk around with them and point things out that you know, flaws that we don't like in one or or even the things we do like and why we like them.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_05: But the individual is what they always have to remember, the individual is what runs down the racetrack, not the catalog page.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_04: How much time do you spend uh managing their expectations, especially somebody that's not overly familiar with the sport but st enthusiastic about wanting to get in and learn?
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_05: That's a hard question for me to answer because I'm not a real talkative person, but the new clientele that have come along, I always inform them hey, if I if I don't call you every day, don't take it personally.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_05: Uh I don't call any of our clients every day because I'm very hands-on and we stay very busy.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_05: If uh something good happens out of the usual, I I try and let them know.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_05: And obviously, if something bad happens, they're gonna get the phone call that everybody dreads.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_05: But uh I I mean I think communication is key to any of this.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_05: If if a guy calls me and I can't answer the phone, I make it a point to when I have a chance to call him back.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_05: And and really that's about all anybody can ask for.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_04: But we appreciate you getting on here on Quarter Horse Racing Talk Podcast.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_05: Yep, thank you very much.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_04: Another big weekend of news from the stallion roster of Lazy E Ranch, with the West Texas Futurity qualifiers being littered by lazy E Stallion sired runners, with Kiss My Hawks putting three into the finals, as well as top second-year sire Cyber Monday also qualifying one into the finals.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_04: The formula is simple.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_04: You want headlines?
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_04: Breed to lazy E stallions.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_02: Also check out the sire roster of Grade 1 Super Derby winner Big Lou, the legendary Corona Cartel, the Grade 1 producing Coronado Cartel, the all-time leader First Down Dash, the Grade 1 runner-up Jess Fire Me, new for 2026 Kempton, another leading Sire PYC Paint Your Wagon, new for 2026 Unrelentless, all standing in Guthrie, Oklahoma at Lazy E Ranch.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_03: Breaking Sire News.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_03: A big weekend of racing at Sunland Park, where the fastest qualifier to the grade two West Texas Futurity was Tempting Lou.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_03: Sired by Tempting Dash, standing at Roboshow Ranch.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_00: All right, back to the show.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_04: Alright, we're back here on Quarter Horse Racing Talk, ready to get into one of the discussions with one of the trainers that we've asked to join us here on this segment, and it's Orlando Orozco, a trainer out of Louisiana.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_04: Orlando deals with a certain level of client that might be a little bit different than Kenny Roberts.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_04: He also sees a lot of new incoming owners into the sport, and what he says is very important.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_04: I really have rarely heard it from a trainer that's been straight out there about just being honest with the owner.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_04: And it was a great take.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_04: Orlando is originally from Angleton, Texas, and made his way to running over in the state of Louisiana and also points out what it's like to be there running in Louisiana and some of the benefits of running throughout the entire year over in that Gulf State.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_04: So without further ado, let's get Orlando on the phone talking to him about how he steers some of his new owners throughout this sport.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_04: Orlando, thanks so very much for being here on Quarter Horse Racing Talk Weekly.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_04: Orlando, wanting to take the adage of once you've landed that new client, what steps do you take next?
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_04: Are you looking to land them a horse that's ready to run now, like a claimer, or a horse that's already of of racing age?
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_04: Or do you steer them towards the yearling cells?
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_04: And obviously, once you steer them towards the yearling cell, they still have a waiting period before these horses actually make a start.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_07: Depends on the owner.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_07: Someone want to claim a horse and and you know run it, you know, within a month, two months after you claim and stuff, you know.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_07: So or you can go to the sale and and uh it all depends on what they're they're looking for.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_07: And money-wise, and every diff every owner is different on price ranges and stuff too.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_04: Orlando, with that owner that's coming in to the sport, you know, that's wanting to spend that$15,000 to$10,000 range at a yearling sale, kind of go through the mindset of what you're looking at in the catalog that you're steering yourself to look at that level of a horse for that level of an owner.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_07: Well, you know, I'm based here in Louisiana.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_07: We pretty much know, you know, the bloodlines, we know a lot of the breeders, we know the mare power they have.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_07: No, you know what what kind of price ranges the horses are gonna go in, you know.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_07: Um rarely I look at uh confirmation, that's the number one thing.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_07: I look in a horse confirmation.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_07: And um, you know, of course, you you have them, the big mayors that you know every year they come to sell them, they're high priced, you know.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_07: So either that or if you have runners, you know, from previous years from the same mare, you can go that ways too, you know.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_04: Orlando, the the idea, of course, is to have owners putting horses in your barn and to keep them hooked and can to continue to have success in order for them to buy more horses and all.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_04: Talk about how important it is to when you purchase that first horse, for it to actually go on and be uh show some level of success as opposed to run into a lot of the typical issues that a youngster gets into, like buctions and uh any of any things that can hamper a two-year-old's career going forth.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_07: Um it's tough.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_07: You know, it's like I tell uh my owners, uh you you learn every year, every day you learn from your mistakes, you know.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_07: And you just gotta be honest with the owners, you know.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_07: I mean, you you gotta let them know that that that can happen.
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_07: You can get a horse, shin buck, it could chip, I mean, just just any different thing.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_07: You know, you just gotta be truthful with them and and let them know what what can happen.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_07: It's difficult.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_07: Some owners understand, some owners, you know, people that are just getting into the business, you know, they don't they don't realize that I mean you can buy a horse and it'd be half a year before you can run it, you know.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_07: It's it's just different.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_07: You just gotta be truthful and and honest with everybody.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_04: With you being based in Louisiana, the goal, of course, is to take these two-year-olds and run them in fraturities, but everybody has that same idea.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_04: Talk about how just how competitive it is and how that's kind of the point in time where a lot of owners kind of get soured on the sport right away because they're paying s all of this money out in nomination fees, and they're they're running against competition that's maybe a little bit above their head, as opposed to going, say, going the maiden route, going running through the horse's conditions, and uh hopefully graduating towards being a stakes horse.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_07: You gotta, you know, kind of pay by your most of them, most of the owners we start off, you know, all my owners they they usually start off paying a fraternity payments, you know, after a couple of works or after even running the first trials here, you know, we start off over here at the Mardi Gross in in uh Louisiana Downs.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_07: You kind of get an idea of what kind of horse you have.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_07: You know, sometimes they can change, but pretty much, you know, you kind of have an idea and that's another thing, you know, you let them know if it's a futurity horse or not.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_07: But you let them know, you know, and if they understand there's some some that you tell them you, well, you know, don't pay this one up and it or don't do this or don't do that, you know, and they don't think they don't have the same, they don't have the same opinion as you do.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_07: But for for now, you know, I have owners that I've been training for for several years, and you know, they trust me and they know, you know, if I tell them, hey, we don't need to pay this one up no more, um, keep paying them, you know.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_07: But there's the good thing about Louisiana, we got we run for good money and we run all year over here.
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_07: So I mean, it you don't have to have pretty fraturity horse to make money.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_07: You can run in day races, and I mean that's that's the good thing about Louisiana.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_04: And expand on that, uh Orlando, as it pertains to uh a person entering into the quarter horse racing world and deciding, just like you mentioned, Louisiana runs year round as opposed to several states that don't have that opportunity and don't show that level of of having those futurities throughout the year to run at of sizable purses.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_04: So talk about the the luxury that I guess the horsemen in Louisiana have of being able to point at those futurities starting from the Mardi Gras all the way till December of running in the million.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_07: We have several for Louisiana bread fraturities that uh you know we can we can run them in the trials or or fraturities and stuff, but the Louisiana that's it it's the best state to run in.
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_07: Why?
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_07: Because we have you know, we run year-round, we run for more money.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_07: And I mean we got a Louisiana bred program that's you know that's in my opinion is the best.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_07: And there's money to be running, you know.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_07: You don't have to have a stakes horse or you know, you can run your horse's main allowance, even claimers, you know, but I mean it's it's it's just different here.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_07: It's I in my opinion, it's a lot better than any other state.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_04: As it pertains to attracting new owners, Orlando, what is the tactic that you've kind of employed that that kind of works for you?
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_04: Say a young horseman wanting to get into the business.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_04: What has worked in the past for Orlando or Roscoe about being able to attract new owners?
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_04: What what has done very well for you?
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_04: Being honest with them.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_07: You you have people that want to get in this game.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_07: If you're honest with them and and you tell them, you know, ahead of time what can happen and what, you know, there you can start off, you know, winning races, and you can start off like we said earlier, you know, a horse can shin buck you, you can do you can you just gotta give them, you know, you gotta let them know what uh all the all the options, everything that can happen with a horse.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_07: And you know, that that way they have an idea of what they're getting themselves into.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_07: You know, just being honest really with everybody, you know, not not blowing smoke up there, you know, to them and and and you know, saying what what is not true.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_04: Orlando Faturities and Derbies, even though that's a main focus of a lot of folks, horsemen in the quarter horse racing world, it it is their highest level of focus, but it only theoretically makes up five to seven percent of all the races throughout the entire calendar year are either trial races or finals, which means day races is where majority of the money is made.
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_04: The majority of the races that are run for someone that's not wanting to take the futurity route and wanting to look and claim a horse and get right into the to the action, kind of talk about the mindset of a trainer like yourself, of especially when it comes to a new owner, of giving them a level of success much earlier, or at least a chance at level of success much earlier as opposed to going the yearly route.
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_07: The competition is tough here in Louisiana.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_07: You know, it's it's it's hard, you know, claim a 5,000 and and make them a stakes horse, you know.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_07: Before before we could now and now that you know it's everything's stricter here in Louisiana, it's it's different, you know.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_07: It's it's just you know, paying attention and and uh following horses that that you think that that that might can make it, you know, it's it's it's the main the main deal is is reading the condition book and running where they belong.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_04: Well Orlando, thanks for taking some time here on Quarter Horse Racing Talk to talk to us about your mindset, uh these new owners of bringing them into the game and kind of steering them in the right direction as it pertains to picking a yearling out at a at say at a lower level or or or claiming one and kind of getting into the game early.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_04: But we certainly appreciate your insight here.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you, Greg.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_16: And we'll be right back after these words.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_16: Champions produce runners, and Eagles Fly Higher is proving it.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_16: His son, a desperate eagle, has qualified to the grade three Oklahoma Derby, competing for a$259,000 purse and adding to the stallion's growing list of elite performers.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_16: Eagles Fly Higher stands in 2026 at the Louisiana Center for Equine Reproduction.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_04: Flying Cowboy 123 at Royal Vista Ranch is showing up in a big way with graded stakes qualifiers already in 2026.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_04: As he's put one qualifier in the grade one Los Al Oaks, two in the Grade 2 Oklahoma Faturity, two in the Grade 2 Louisiana Downs Faturity, one in the grade 2 El Primero del Año Derby, three in the grade 2 West Texas Faturity, and one in the Grade 3 Oklahoma Faturity.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_04: This sire thus far in 26 is simply flying.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_04: At Royal Vista Ranch in Wayne, Oklahoma.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_02: Also standing for 2026 is Multiple Graded Stakes finalist, a political J Streak, the already legendary leading sire of political jests, the grade one producing FDD Going Grand.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_02: Multiple stakes producing sire, heart of the cartel.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_02: And new for 2026, the Grade 1 winner, Just Dulce.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_02: All this talent standing at Royal Vista Ranch in Wayne, Oklahoma.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_12: Alright, we're back here on Quarter Horse Racing Talk Weekly.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_12: Ready to jump into the race recap section and we're gonna play a little catch up.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, Bailey, the way these two stakes races fit, when we made our transition over to Wednesday, we were had already kind of pre-recorded that section and we missed those two.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_04: But the one that I definitely want to go back and hit upon is the grade one Brad McKenzie winner championship stakes.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_04: $135,000 for 400 yards for four-year-olds and up.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_04: It's the big grade one out there in California.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_04: And here's the race call.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_11: Racing! Lethal Cowboy 1, 2, 3, drifting just a path wide.
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_11: He came out pretty straight and he's going pretty fast.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_11: Favorite Jess Hawk endeavoring to match him.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_11: Kevin's wise corona corner flyer.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_11: Four on the floor not far off.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_11: The Medbird Verde show and tell Cartel.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_11: It's lethal cowboy down the outside and favorite Jess Hawk diving through.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_11: Give it to the Jess Hawk by a nose!
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_12: Favorite Jess Hawk is a four-year-old cult by Amir Felix out of the one sweet Jess Mare Jess Hawk.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_12: Bred and owned by E.G.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_12: High Desert Farms, trained by Jesus Nunez and ridden by Martin Ariaga.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_04: Bailey, that was a great race if you haven't had an opportunity to go and watch that, visually watch that race.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_04: It is definitely a race to go and watch.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_04: Lethal Cowboy 123 on the outside was rolling.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_04: The track announcer started calling his name pretty much throughout the race, and just at a last minute surge, favorite Jess Hawk gets up to win the grade one event.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_04: And that leads us also to another race we need to discuss that we need to play catch-up with.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_04: It was really the first stakes race right out the box there at the Remington Park meet on March the 8th.
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_04: The grade two Mighty Deck 3 stakes, the Sprinters going 250 yards for a$75,000 purse.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_04: And here's the call from Del Day.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_01: They're off in the Mighty Deck 3.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_01: Good start for I'm a Fancy Eye Opener.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_01: Also away sharply.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_01: Cardiac Cowboy coming on to the outside.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_01: Mystic Paint and trademark A.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_01: I'm a fancy eye opener rolling down the middle.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_01: But there's Cardiac Cowboy.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_01: Hard to politic getting ground quickly.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_01: And here's the line: Cardiac Cowboy.
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_12: Cardiac Cowboys, a five-year-old gelding by Flying Cowboy 123 out of the Carter's Cartel Mare, South Earth Cartel, bred by Joe Rice, owned by Tom Smith and Luann Smith, and Amber Olmsted.
• 42:25
  SPEAKER_12: Trained by Jason Olmsted and ridden by Armando Alvidres.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_04: And that catches us up for this past weekend stakes events at Remington Park, including the Grade 2 Eastek stakes for the older horses that Bailey and I previewed here on the last episode of Corto Horse Racing Talk for three-year-olds and up, going 350 yards.
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_04: And here's the call from Del Day.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_01: They're off for the Easticks.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_01: Good start for out of sight.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_01: Comes out on top from the middle of the gate.
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_01: Lightning strikes right there.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_01: Now trying to come on toward the inside.
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_01: Relentless rocket, making a bit of a move, trying to move up as Mr.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_01: Boombastic is Lightning Strikes now, puts a nose on the lead.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_01: Out of sight, still right there.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_01: Farther out, Big Bang Rockets a player.
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_01: Here comes Big Bang Rocket and out of sight.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_01: These two are the line together.
• 43:07
  SPEAKER_12: Out of sight is a four-year-old gelding by a political jest out of the Mr.
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_12: Eye Opener Mare Eye Popping.
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_12: Read by Bobby Cox, owned by Dunn Ranch, trained by Jed Vane, and written by Francisco Calderon.
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_12: It was a 2026 Heritage Place winner mix sale RA of 125,000.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_04: Which means you could have purchased this horse and been in the winner circle there in the East Tex, Bailey.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_04: That's what that RA is signifying.
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_04: And that also moves us over to the grade two Deccetta stakes for the Phillies and Mayors, three-year-olds and upward, going 350 yards, a$58,000 purse on the line.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_04: And here is the call from Del Day.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_01: They're off into Decetta.
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_01: Quick start, flying bandita, not squeeze tonight, roars out to the front.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_01: To the inside, eyes are wagging my tail there.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_01: Second coming on now.
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe Ruth in third, trying to make up ground is Jesse's first card.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_01: Farther out catches on the rays.
• 43:59
  SPEAKER_01: They're all chasing for.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_01: Flying Bandita, loose on the lead.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_01: She's gonna take this one by more than two than the Canada Flying Bandita.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_12: Flying Bandita is a four-year-old filly by Flying Cowboy123 out of the PYC Paint Your Wagon Mare Meaningful Memories.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_12: Read by Sherry Berger, owned by Vicky McVee, and Sherry Berger.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_12: Trained by Jason Olmsted and written by Ramiro Garcia.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_04: That's two significant stakes wins this meet by former AQHA world champion trainer Jason Olmsted.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_04: That barn is on fire going into this 2026 meet at Rimington Park.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_04: And Bailey out west in Sunland Park, they had the West Texas Futurity Trials for two-year-olds going 300 yards.
• 44:41
  SPEAKER_04: And here is the fastest qualifier, Tempting Lou.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_04: And there they go.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_06: Coming away sharply was Tempting Lou.
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_06: Already has grabbed the early lead in second perfect 10 Dess.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_06: Third and coming is one of Tempting Dynasty.
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_06: But look at this horse go! What a Philly! Tempting Lou in a knockdown victory! Might have won by three.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_12: Tempting Lou is a two-year-old Philly by Tempting Dash out of the he's a fast dash mare La Mos Chingona.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_12: Bred by Simmons Racing, owned by AA Farms, trained by Eric Valenzuela and ridden by Jose Luis Enriquez.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_12: And stop the clock at 15.002.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_04: And the next Futurity trials fastest qualifier to talk about came out of the New Mexico Spring Futurity, a restricted grade two event with a finals purst of$402,000 for New Mexico bred two-year-olds going 300 yards.
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_04: And here was the fastest qualifier, Bridger, another Valenzuela trainee.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_06: And they're off.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_06: I am super did not break with company.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_06: Going right out to the front is Bridger.
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_06: Bridger leads early from Ivory's treasure to the inside, closing a bit in second knots.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_06: King's landing coming on nicely in third.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_06: My chocolate martini, what a exemplary run from Bridger!
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_12: Bridger is a two-year-old gelding by I Am King out of the blushing bug mare Bridget Burdeaux.
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_12: Bred by MJ Farms, owned by Tungsten Racing Partnership and Rancho L48, also ridden by Jose Enriquez Ortiz and trained by Eric Valenzuela, stopping the clock at 14.978, and was also a Redoso yearling sale graduate of$155,000.
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_12: And we were able to get on the phone with winning trainer Eric Valenzuela.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_12: And here's what he had to say.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_04: Eric, the horse ran a great race, first timeout, Bridger, there in the New Mexico Spring Futurity.
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_04: Talk about that fastest qualifier.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_10: You know, it's uh this horse, he's ever since we've got him, he just does the right thing.
• 46:41
  SPEAKER_10: You know, he's he's a trainer's dream.
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_10: You know, he makes you look good.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_10: And um, you know, our my job is just to keep him happy, you know.
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_10: Keep him happy.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_10: Um, he gets super excited.
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_10: If you could view it there in the paddock, he was just a little anxious.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_10: But um, once he gets on the track, he's a general man.
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_10: He ever since we broke him, we got him on the track, we knew he was gonna be special.
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_10: Um, I didn't expect to win the trial like that, I gotta say.
• 47:02
  SPEAKER_10: But we'll take it and uh we'll hope for consistency.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_10: We'll keep him happy.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_10: He came out of the ridge looking really well.
• 47:07
  SPEAKER_10: He's looking nice, and and you know, we're going up some against some big time horses, big time trainers.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_10: So um we'll take the win that way.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_10: Um, I just hope he he he breaks the way he did again.
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_10: And if he does, uh you you saw what he did up on top of him.
• 47:22
  SPEAKER_10: If he we could get him to break even, you know, just decent.
• 47:25
  SPEAKER_10: I think he I think he has a great shot of winning.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_04: Eric, that Philly tempting loot ran a great race.
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_04: Another first-time starter that fires down the racetrack there.
• 47:35
  SPEAKER_04: Talk about this tempting dash Philly.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I mean, this this tempting dash Philly, uh Arturo, we got her up in uh the Texas sale.
• 47:42
  SPEAKER_10: She was just eye candy, you know, something good to look at.
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_10: Other than that, um, man, just what an exceptional race.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_10: She it looked like she opened the doors.
• 47:52
  SPEAKER_10: Um, like if she had been running uh if she had been running, you know, races already.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_10: But um again, another horse is just a trainer's dream.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_10: She she makes you look good.
• 48:00
  SPEAKER_10: You know, she's a tempting dash, as you know, little tempting dashes are a little hot.
• 48:04
  SPEAKER_10: She was a little hot to break, but but again, you know, she she behaved in the paddock really well.
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_10: As soon as she got on that racetrack, she you know, those horses with the great mind, it they they they make it easy for themselves.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_10: She if she behaves like that in the gate and she has a decent break, man, she runs up just like Bridger, and and that's what you want.
• 48:23
  SPEAKER_10: Um, two-year-olds, you know, the most consistent are are the best when they're two, and and that's all we could hope for.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_10: So again, she came out of the race looking nice.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_10: We'll take it nice and slow and and just keep them happy and and just keep working hard, you know.
• 48:37
  SPEAKER_10: Um you you you take it with a grain of salt, you enjoy it for what it is, and then you get back working hard.
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_10: So these horses, uh, they just make me look good.
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_10: You know, um all I could say is my job is just to listen to them, um, change nothing, just try to keep them happy, and and hopefully we we have a decent break, a decent break in the final.
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_10: And I know if we just break with them, not even ahead, I I know they're gonna run up.
• 49:00
  SPEAKER_10: So that's that's makes my job a lot easier.
• 49:03
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• 49:07
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• 50:22
  SPEAKER_04: All right, we're back here, ready to get into the preview section here on Quarter Horse Racing Talk Weekly.
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_04: And Bailey, we had three greatest stakes we're gonna go over here at Oklahoma City's Remington Park this weekend, including the big grade two event.
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_12: The first race that we're gonna preview today is the Oklahoma Futurity Grade 2 event.
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_12: The purse is 435,000 two-year-olds going 300 yards.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_04: You know, Bailey, one of the unique things about the Oklahoma Futurity, it's one of our oldest futurities in the sport, dating all the way back to 1947, first contested in 1947 in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
• 50:58
  SPEAKER_04: And back then, it was known as the Oklahoma Quarter Horse Exhibitors Association Futurity.
• 51:04
  SPEAKER_04: Now that's a mouthful for any racetrack announcer there.
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_04: It's been in places like Garfield Downs in Oklahoma, as well as Osage Down in Bahuska, and it's been at La Misa Park in Raton, New Mexico multiple times, as well as at Blue Ribbon Downs multiple times, until finally finding its home here at Remington Park in uh 2006, I believe is the first year it was at Remington in Oklahoma City.
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_04: And if you go through the horsemen that have won the race that are in the field this year, D.
• 51:36
  SPEAKER_04: Keener and Stacey Caps are the only veteran trainers that have been victorious in this grade two event.
• 51:43
  SPEAKER_04: D.
• 51:43
  SPEAKER_04: Keener winning it twice, once in 2019 and then in 2022.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_04: But let's look at the fastest qualifier going into the finals here, Bailey.
• 51:52
  SPEAKER_12: Greg, two horses that really caught my eye coming out of the trials were Kiss Me in a Flash and A Fortunate Cowboy.
• 51:58
  SPEAKER_12: And both of them ended up posting the fastest times of their nights.
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_04: I think you'd have to watch the replay of this Kiss Me in a Flash out of the barn of Jed Vane.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_04: This horse ran brilliantly.
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_04: Doesn't have the greatest way of going, but boy, this horse really gets down the racetrack in a hurry.
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_12: Yeah, she ended up winning her trial by over three links.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_04: And another interesting fact, Bailey, is the owner and the trainer of this fastest qualifier going into the finals, neither one of them having been victorious in this grade two event.
• 52:31
  SPEAKER_04: But the jockey, Juan Polito, has won this event in 2023.
• 52:35
  SPEAKER_04: But all eyes are going to be on this Kiss My Hawks Philly as she looked the part in the trials going into the finals.
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_04: And Bailey, we talked to trainer Jed Vane in the actual recap section last week, but we're also catching up with him going into this preview of the finals this weekend in Oklahoma City.
• 52:55
  SPEAKER_04: Jed, with a lot of first-time starters, uh, there's always seems to be room for improvement, even though that trial race was super impressive.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_04: Clearly, there's something that can be improved upon and in is in your assessment, what was that thing and what have you been what have you done in order to improve that?
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_09: I'm hoping she can break a little better.
• 53:41
  SPEAKER_04: Jed, you've been in these scenarios as an assistant as well as a trainer, great at stakes trainer.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_04: When you're watching a horse run that hard down the lane and that impressively, uh what thoughts have to run through your mind?
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_04: You definitely want to run fast enough to qualify into the race, but you certainly want to hope that the horse leaves something in the tank for the finals.
• 54:04
  SPEAKER_04: Give me the mindset that you were uh going through when you watch this horse go down the lane.
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_09: Um like you said, you want them to take something for the finals.
• 54:16
  SPEAKER_09: When I saw the time, I was very happy for the final.
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_09: I don't think you feel like she was running real hard at the end.
• 54:24
  SPEAKER_09: She had her ears.
• 54:29
  SPEAKER_09: You know, I'm just I'm just hoping there's a little bit of room for the finals because there was a lot of 92-year-olds that are gonna be cut that room.
• 54:39
  SPEAKER_04: There's a lot of signs of a horse that that did too much in the trial race and that might come up empty.
• 54:45
  SPEAKER_04: And in one of the telltale signs is the horse's demeanor afterwards.
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_04: Talk about how this horse has been training from the time of the trial until the time you're gonna put this horse in the gate on Saturday in the futurity.
• 54:58
  SPEAKER_09: Her demeanor is she's been kind of her normal self.
• 55:01
  SPEAKER_09: She's been eating good, which is you know a really big deal to me, and them staying on their diet after they're from any any level from eating's a big thing, and she's eating the track, feeling good, really sound, real aggressive out there, which is her normal.
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_09: I just haven't seen a whole lot of change in her positive positive or negative.
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_09: She just kind of maintains her same personality.
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_04: Well, Jed, best of luck.
• 55:29
  SPEAKER_04: Thanks for getting on here and Quarter Horse Racing Talk and uh hope to see you in the winner circle in the finals.
• 55:34
  SPEAKER_09: Appreciate that, Greg.
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_09: Always a pleasure.
• 55:37
  SPEAKER_12: Then you've got a fortunate cowboy.
• 55:39
  SPEAKER_12: He was the fastest time of night, too.
• 55:41
  SPEAKER_12: He had a strong finish and it looked like he had something left in his tank.
• 55:46
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, with all these first-time starters learning how to get down the racetrack, you'd never know.
• 55:51
  SPEAKER_04: I bet you if you line all ten of these two-year-olds up in the starting gate and send them on their way, multiple times, you're gonna get a multiple result.
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_04: Unless you have one single standout in this field, Bailey, that just powers heads above all the other horses in this race.
• 56:08
  SPEAKER_12: Yes, I agree, Greg.
• 56:09
  SPEAKER_12: And I think that honestly, any of them could, since they are two-year-olds, any of them could be peaking at just the right time this weekend.
• 56:16
  SPEAKER_04: And speaking of peaking, we were able to talk with jockey Nestor Duran about the mount he's got going into the finals of Fortunate Cowboy in the Oklahoma Futurity.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_04: Nestor, first of all, take me from the gate to the wire in that trial event.
• 56:33
  SPEAKER_13: Fortunate cowboy broke way better in his trial than he did in the schooling races.
• 56:39
  SPEAKER_13: Uh, we were about 100 yards in and he used to call from there.
• 56:43
  SPEAKER_04: When he was last hundred yards in that trial race, did you feel like you were really running a fast time?
• 56:49
  SPEAKER_13: Yes, I knew I was running a fast time, but I still ask him for a little bit more.
• 56:54
  SPEAKER_13: With time trials, you never know because of the wind.
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_04: With a first time starter, Nestor, I'm assuming there's always room for improvement.
• 57:02
  SPEAKER_04: Where can this horse improve?
• 57:04
  SPEAKER_13: Uh, I think he can improve in the first 50 to 100 yards coming out of the gates.
• 57:09
  SPEAKER_13: After that, he used to take off.
• 57:12
  SPEAKER_13: With this being his second start, I think he will do better than what he did in the trials.
• 57:17
  SPEAKER_04: Alright, that leads us over to the grade three Oklahoma Derby.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_04: $259,000 Derby going 350 yards there Saturday night in Oklahoma City.
• 57:28
  SPEAKER_04: And Bailey talked to me about one of the horses that jumps off the page for you.
• 57:32
  SPEAKER_12: Greg, I think that AJ Remember Me brings an impressive record to the table.
• 57:37
  SPEAKER_12: He ran second in the Los Alamitos 2 million futurity, which is one of the biggest races in quarter horse racing.
• 57:43
  SPEAKER_12: And I think that he's already shown he can compete on a big stage.
• 57:47
  SPEAKER_04: Just missed by a head being a grade one winner.
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_04: It'd be a certainly a different story.
• 57:52
  SPEAKER_04: We'd be sitting here talking about if this horse had put his nose in front there at Los Alamitos, and now we would have a grade one winner going into the Oklahoma Derby here.
• 58:02
  SPEAKER_04: I also think that another horse that's going to be right beside him, Louisiana man, out of the barn of Jose Lopez with Brian Canonoso board, looks super sharp as well.
• 58:12
  SPEAKER_04: We really can't knock a horse that's been either right there or has won in the last five outs, three wins in the last five outs, including just missing there at the Louisiana Million Futurity there in Opalousis, Louisiana, up against a really tough horse there in Louisiana RF fast dash and blood in that futurity, and then comes back and qualifies into the field, looks sharp and should be really tough here, should probably give AJ Remember Me all that he can handle here in the finals.
• 58:45
  SPEAKER_12: Yes, Greg, running well in multiple faturities against strong competition tells you this is a horse that knows how to show up on big nights.
• 58:53
  SPEAKER_04: Another one that intrigues me, Bailey, Emerald Bay.
• 58:56
  SPEAKER_12: Why is that?
• 58:57
  SPEAKER_04: He's another one, just barely missed in the last two starts as a two-year-old, including just being beat by a neck in the mystery faturity there at Will Rogers Downs.
• 59:07
  SPEAKER_04: Comes out of that race, qualifies into this.
• 59:10
  SPEAKER_04: James Flores is a regular pilot here.
• 59:12
  SPEAKER_04: And if you throw out that 10th place finish in the Speedhorse Faturity, the Great Three event, this horse has got a very close to flawless record of being right there at the end when these horses go across the wire, as well as only getting beat by a length in the Heritage Place juvenile as a two-year-old.
• 59:29
  SPEAKER_04: So I think these horses along the inside got a huge chance, with AJ Remember Me, of course, having the advantage because you can't dispute the numbers there.
• 59:38
  SPEAKER_04: If you go and look at all these speed figures that this horse has been throwing up, it's just super impressive.
• 59:42
  SPEAKER_04: And speaking of D.
• 59:43
  SPEAKER_04: Keener, the conditioner has another fastest qualifier and another big event there in Oklahoma City and the Oklahoma Paint Appaloosa Futurity, the grade one event, Bailey.
• 59:53
  SPEAKER_12: Yes, the fastest qualifier coming into the final is DW Showend off, who will break from post position seven.
• 1:00:00
  SPEAKER_04: A lot of these horses clearly making their first start here in the lifetime, qualified to get into the field here and then showing up in the final, as mentioned.
• 1:00:10
  SPEAKER_04: Load these 10 same horses up, Bailey, in the futurity, run it multiple times.
• 1:00:15
  SPEAKER_04: You're more than likely going to have multiple different winners.
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_12: I agree.
• 1:00:19
  SPEAKER_12: Another horse that really caught my attention in the trials was Limited Jesse, a son of Chilitos, which the Chilitos horses are really running well right now.
• 1:00:28
  SPEAKER_12: And Limited Jesse looked like one that could add to the momentum.
• 1:00:32
  SPEAKER_12: What stood out to me was how professional he looked.
• 1:00:35
  SPEAKER_12: For a horse making his first start, he didn't really look green to me.
• 1:00:39
  SPEAKER_04: And Bailey, I don't know if you go by Equibase numbers, but if you were to look at them, MW Because I'm alive, he's going to be breaking right by the fastest qualifier DW, Show and Dioff.
• 1:00:51
  SPEAKER_04: Has some impressive numbers almost equaling or matching that of the favorite going into the finals for James Gonzalez II, with Christian Cardenas aboard for the finals going into this 300-yard event.
• 1:01:04
  SPEAKER_12: All right, and that's all the time we have today for this week's episode of Quarter Horse Racing Talk Weekly.
• 1:01:10
  SPEAKER_04: Hey, what a great show, Bailey.
• 1:01:12
  SPEAKER_04: I really, really enjoy the series that we're doing.
• 1:01:15
  SPEAKER_12: Yes, the series has gotten a really great response, Greg.
• 1:01:19
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I've actually received a lot of messages as well of keep up, keep up with what you're doing.
• 1:01:24
  SPEAKER_04: And obviously, we this is what we need in the sport of new owners coming in and and what you guys are trying to do.
• 1:01:31
  SPEAKER_04: Keep going.
• 1:01:32
  SPEAKER_12: Yes, it's a really good time that we're doing it going into the sale season.
• 1:01:37
  SPEAKER_12: The Texas sale is gonna be in July, and then the Louisiana sale, followed by Redoso and Heritage.
• 1:01:44
  SPEAKER_12: I think that this will really get owners involved.
• 1:01:48
  SPEAKER_04: Bailey, I think what we're doing is giving the new owner just enough ammunition so they can walk around with a catalog and act like they know what they're doing, right?
• 1:01:56
  SPEAKER_12: I agree, and we were joined by some great guests who shared their experience and insight on what owners should know.
• 1:02:02
  SPEAKER_04: And we're not done.
• 1:02:03
  SPEAKER_04: We got more of that educational type series coming down the road here on Quota Horse Racing Talk.
• 1:02:10
  SPEAKER_12: And we also have the finals at Rivington Park this Saturday.
• 1:02:13
  SPEAKER_12: It should be a great night of racing, and there's plenty to talk about as these horses come back after some strong trial performances.
• 1:02:21
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, looking forward to who comes and fires that bullet in the finals here in the Oklahoma Faturity and the Derby.
• 1:02:28
  SPEAKER_12: As well as the grade one Paint and Appaloosa Faturity.
• 1:02:33
  SPEAKER_04: And with that being said, we'll see you next time.
• 1:02:35
  SPEAKER_04: I'm Greg Thompson and I'm Bailey Ivy.
• 1:02:38
  SPEAKER_04: Here on Quarter Horse Racing Talk Weekly on stallionesearch.com.