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Credlin | 13 January · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Kredlin live on sky Nins Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, I'm Caroli Marcus filling in for Peter Kredlin
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Speaker 2: coming up tonight. Kevin Rudd's snap resignation as ambassador to
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Speaker 2: the US, but a key contender to replace him has
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Speaker 2: also made terrible.
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Speaker 3: Slurs about Trump.
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Speaker 2: Plus the Adelaide Writers Festival now axed after its director
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Speaker 2: dramatically quit amid mass walkouts, and families of those killed
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Speaker 2: in the Bonnie attack say they are not being adequately
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Speaker 2: compensated by the Albanese government. But first, he's Kevin and
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Speaker 2: he's here to help, but no longer with our relationship
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Speaker 2: with the United States. Former Prime Minister Kevin Rudd has
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Speaker 2: today made the shock announcement He's stepping down as Ambassador
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Speaker 2: to the US.
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Speaker 4: We announce it, Doctor Kevin Rudd AC will conclude he's
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Speaker 4: postings Australia's ambassador to the United States at the end
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Speaker 4: of March twenty and twenty six.
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Speaker 2: Now we're told that Rudd's sudden resignation is due to
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Speaker 2: him accepting a return to the role of global president
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Speaker 2: of international relations think tank The Asia Society.
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Speaker 3: Rod himself tweeting.
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Speaker 2: This morning, I will be remaining in America, working between
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Speaker 2: New York and Washington on the future of US China relations,
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Speaker 2: which I have always believed to be the core question
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Speaker 2: for the future stability of our region.
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Speaker 3: And the world. But something doesn't add up here.
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Speaker 2: After all, Rudd's snap resignation comes only three months after
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Speaker 2: this very public rebuke from US President Donald Trump, prompted
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Speaker 2: by a question from our own political editor Andrew Clenell.
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Speaker 5: Taken nine months to get this meeting?
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Speaker 6: Have you had any concerns with this administration with a
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Speaker 6: stance on Palestine, climate change, or.
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Speaker 5: Even things the ambassador said about you in the past.
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Speaker 5: He's strained ambassador. I don't know anything about him. And
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Speaker 5: he said bad, then maybe he'll like to apologize.
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Speaker 2: I really don't know.
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Speaker 5: Did an ambassador to say something bad about it? Don't
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Speaker 5: tell me where is he?
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Speaker 7: Is he still working for you?
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Speaker 6: Said bad before I took his positions to prison.
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Speaker 5: But I don't like you either.
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Speaker 3: Probably never will he ouch.
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Speaker 2: And even though Alberanizi later privately claimed that Trump had
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Speaker 2: said all was forgiven, this was public humiliation on a
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Speaker 2: global scale. And let's not forget what bad Rudd had
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Speaker 2: said about the leader of the free world, whose administration
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Speaker 2: it was his very job to work closely with. First
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Speaker 2: they were the embarrassing tweets Rudd deleted when he became
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Speaker 2: in which he'd called Trump a traitor to the West
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Speaker 2: and the most destructive president in history, the story making
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Speaker 2: headlines in the New York Times.
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Speaker 3: Did Rud honestly think these wouldn't come out? O Kevin?
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Speaker 2: The Internet never forgets, and nor do we. And then
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Speaker 2: there were the videos of Rod calling Trump a village
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Speaker 2: idiot and mocking him, exposed by my colleague Shari Markson
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Speaker 2: last year.
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Speaker 6: In the last four years has been run by a
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Speaker 6: village idiot, competent international state craft and the United States
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Speaker 6: increasingly incompetent and international state craft under Trump.
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Speaker 8: I stand by what I wrote then that was in
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Speaker 8: a pre Trump world. I hope to publish again soon,
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Speaker 8: hopefully early next year, the Future of US China Relations
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Speaker 8: under President Trump. And then I go to the subtitle
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Speaker 8: will be a call for a new tremendous piece of
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Speaker 8: very big, beautiful Mara Lago chocolate cake. That's the working title.
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Speaker 8: Any other suggestions I'd greatly receive.
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Speaker 3: What a comedian. But wait, there's more.
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Speaker 2: Here is word calling Trump incoherent and in love with dictators.
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Speaker 9: But the underpinnings of it was still incoherent because Trump
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Speaker 9: himself was incoherent, and he waxed and wane from being
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Speaker 9: in love with dictators to not knowing what he wanted
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Speaker 9: from dictators.
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Speaker 2: Honestly, this was the Albanese government's best candidate for ambassador
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Speaker 2: to our number one ally, our most important international relationship.
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Speaker 2: Rott's love of laying the boot into Trump, a man
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Speaker 2: who was always a very good chance of becoming president again,
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Speaker 2: tells you everything you need to know about his poor
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Speaker 2: judgment and what a liability he really was. And while
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Speaker 2: it's true Rud did manage to secure a multi bill
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Speaker 2: dollar critical minerals and rare earth deal at that October meeting,
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Speaker 2: for which he rightly deserves credit, why did it take
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Speaker 2: more than two hundred and seventy days into Trump's second
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Speaker 2: term for our prime minister to even secure an official
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Speaker 2: meeting with the US President. But according to Alberan Ezi today,
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Speaker 2: Rudd's early resignation was all his idea.
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Speaker 4: Yes, it was entirely Kevin Rudd's decision. He is finishing
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Speaker 4: up a year early, but he has served for three years.
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Speaker 2: And yet it was only in October, after that slap
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Speaker 2: down from Trump that Alberansi himself vowed Rudd would continue
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Speaker 2: in his role for a full term.
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Speaker 7: Promise to mister Rudd, by March next year will have
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Speaker 7: served three years in the job.
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Speaker 5: Will he continue in the job as in best of
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Speaker 5: the past that point.
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Speaker 2: He has been appointed for four years, So forgive me
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Speaker 2: if I'm skeptical about the real reason for Brad's sudden resignation.
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Speaker 2: Former Labor ministers Joel Fitzgibbon and Stephen Conroy have now
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Speaker 2: emerged as the front runners to replace him, while former
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Speaker 2: Liberal Prime Minister Scott Morrison is something of a wild card,
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Speaker 2: although Conroy, who viewers will know as a regular here
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Speaker 2: on Sky News, has called Trump a moron and moronically stupid.
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Speaker 10: Donald Trump in his moronically stupid approach to international Applianmacy,
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Speaker 10: this is absolutely what happens when you have moron in
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Speaker 10: charge of trying to work your foreign policy.
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Speaker 3: Here's a novel idea.
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Speaker 2: How about this time we pick someone who hasn't sledged
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Speaker 2: The most powerful person on the planet. Joining me now
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Speaker 2: to discuss this and more is one nation. Mpe Barnaby
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Speaker 2: Joyce Sparnaby, great to see you. First of all, your
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Speaker 2: reaction to Kevin Rodd's resignation as ambassador and who do
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Speaker 2: you think should be in the role next?
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Speaker 11: Well, it was his decision, wasn't it. It was like the
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Speaker 11: person who fell out of the plane. They said, it
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Speaker 11: was entirely his decision to pull the parachute. Well, of course,
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Speaker 11: the other alternative was to bounce on the ground. Look,
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Speaker 11: I don't mind Kevin, but this was a ridiculous position.
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Speaker 11: It was untenable and he should never been put in
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Speaker 11: that position and he should have been taken out of
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Speaker 11: that position ages ago. So you just can't get away
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Speaker 11: with saying that. You've got to realize, you think the
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Speaker 11: resources of Australia are strong, and the resources around the
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Speaker 11: President of the United States are immense, and they would
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Speaker 11: have all the briefings in the world. Say, guess what
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Speaker 11: this clown said about you, President, and he would know.
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Speaker 11: He wouldn't have gone into that meeting, into that press
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Speaker 11: conference is not knowing exactly what Trump had said. And
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Speaker 11: the President, you know, gave him the greatest humiliation you
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Speaker 11: possibly could in front of the world alt's media. And
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Speaker 11: you can do that when you're the president of the
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Speaker 11: United States, and we have to realize he is the
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Speaker 11: president of the United States, and without the President of
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Speaker 11: the United States, we don't have a defense policy, and
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Speaker 11: we're in a world of trouble with the ascendency of
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Speaker 11: a totalitarian regime in China. So this had to happen
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Speaker 11: now with Stephen, who's another guy I actually get along
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Speaker 11: very well with. I like Stephen, but yeah, yeah, I
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Speaker 11: thought he was off the hook by saying his approach
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Speaker 11: was moronically stupid. You could sort of maybe have some
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Speaker 11: maybe have some latitude there, But then he followed it
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Speaker 11: up with saying he's a foreign policy for moron. So no,
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Speaker 11: Stephen is going to be in the don't do it
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Speaker 11: and don't place him with Stephen. Stephen's a lovely guy,
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Speaker 11: but it's not going to work there either. So Gile's
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Speaker 11: looking pretty good. I'd say Joel is looking pretty good.
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Speaker 11: And Joel's very very safe set of hands, and you
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Speaker 11: know his son who was tragically killed in the military.
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Speaker 11: He's got all the credentials of a person former defense minister.
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Speaker 11: If I was going to the Melbourne cup Field, i'd
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Speaker 11: I'd have a yeah, I'd have a pineapple on job
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Speaker 11: to get the job. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Look, I think that's a very safe bet.
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Speaker 2: And I like Stephen Conroy two as a colleague and
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Speaker 2: I've enjoyed many debates with him, especially on Paul Murray's program.
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Speaker 2: But having made the comments he did, I think it
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Speaker 2: would be equally untenable to have him in that position.
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Speaker 3: I agree.
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Speaker 2: Look, let's talk about Prime Minister Anthony Albinizi yesterday who
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Speaker 2: announced he was recalling Parliament early to look at new
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Speaker 2: hate speech laws on the ground of race. But the
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Speaker 2: Coalition has raised concerns that religious calf outs could give
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Speaker 2: license to radical preachers to use interpretations of the Quran
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Speaker 2: and other Islamic texts to.
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Speaker 3: Espouse hatred of Jews.
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Speaker 2: And in fact, this is exactly what the Sydney hate
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Speaker 2: preacher with some Haddad, tried to do in his defense
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Speaker 2: to a federal court case bought by the Jewish community
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Speaker 2: last year, which did fail. But Barnaby, do you think
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Speaker 2: of these new reforms and do you share these concerns
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Speaker 2: about these carfouts.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, I have concerns that we have brought into that
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Speaker 11: things that are incredibly have great issue in the country,
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Speaker 11: such as firearms, legislations for us. We live here, not
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Speaker 11: in bond I. We're law abiding farmers. We haven't done
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Speaker 11: anything wrong, and I don't think they'll tolerate us if
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Speaker 11: we started voting for greater regulations on how people live
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Speaker 11: out here. And I think it's very mischievous to put
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Speaker 11: that into the same piece of legislation where there obviously
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Speaker 11: will be a wealth of things we want to support,
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Speaker 11: but you can't support it if you go back home
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Speaker 11: and people say, so, you've just voted for me to
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Speaker 11: have to hand over my grandparents' firearms, or you've just
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Speaker 11: voted for me to no longer be able to put
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Speaker 11: a foot on the note. You asked me to love
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Speaker 11: this nation, but now I'm not allowed to put a
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Speaker 11: foot on it because I used to go out peach
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Speaker 11: shooting and now I'm not allowed to do it anymore.
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Speaker 11: I'm apparently it's illegal. So you want me to love
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Speaker 11: this nation, you want me to defend this nation, but
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Speaker 11: you have taken away the mechanism for me to recreate
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Speaker 11: on this nation. And I don't quite work that out,
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Speaker 11: and I can't work that at it either, So yeah,
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Speaker 11: we know what the thing is. Like, Well, I'm her dad,
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Speaker 11: like we all know his name.
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Speaker 5: It's so bizarre. We all know his name.
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Speaker 11: I know, we're not allowed to do anything about it.
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Speaker 11: I mean, do you think if he was in Saudi Arabia,
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Speaker 11: let's go to an Islamic country, how long do you
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Speaker 11: reckon it lasts? If he's gone, be absolutely gone. And
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Speaker 11: you know, we're playing this stupid game. We know it's
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Speaker 11: in the southwest south southwest suburbs of Sydney and in
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Speaker 11: sections of Melbourne. We know it's Islamic hate. We know
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Speaker 11: it's fundamental, it's Islam. We know who these people are,
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Speaker 11: we know where it is, yet we play this stupid
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Speaker 11: game of finding all these other distractions. It's farmers, it's
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Speaker 11: big shooters, it's you know, Milton Anglicans, you know, and
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Speaker 11: it's islamis is bs. Just that's the problem with this.
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Speaker 11: We're still just dancing around the issue when we know
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Speaker 11: exactly what the problem is. When I can walk into
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Speaker 11: the Katingle Hotel and they'll tell me exactly what the
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Speaker 11: problem is. But then we hear this sort of confetti
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Speaker 11: of confusion coming out of Canberra about how they're going
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Speaker 11: to deal with this issue.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not just the guns that are the distraction.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think announcing that they're going to try
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Speaker 2: and ban groups like his book Teria Good.
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Speaker 3: Should have happened a long time ago.
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Speaker 2: But at the same time they have to mention the
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Speaker 2: neo Nazis, which I of all people will say horrendous.
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Speaker 2: They shouldn't be here, we shouldn't have them. But what
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Speaker 2: they weren't responsible for what happened at Bonley, So it
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Speaker 2: just seems like another destruction Barnaby. Yet another poll, this
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Speaker 2: one by a demos AU shows your party or new
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Speaker 2: Party one Nation closing in on the Coalition that they're
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Speaker 2: now tied on a twenty three percent primary vote, while
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Speaker 2: Labour's vote has fall into twenty nine percent. I mean,
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Speaker 2: I imagine this would be validation for you and your
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Speaker 2: decision to depect late last year.
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Speaker 11: Well, you know, people talk about me, and it's not
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Speaker 11: about me. What if this is about, overwhelmingly is the
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Speaker 11: Australian people making a change in how they vote. I
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Speaker 11: might have changed parties, but the Australian people have made
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Speaker 11: the biggest change, vastly bigger than me, that they've that
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Speaker 11: they want the confetti of confusion removed. They want a
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Speaker 11: more stringent and clear message about issues and things. I'll
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Speaker 11: give you two. One nation has been talking forever about
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Speaker 11: Islamic fundamentalism and how dangerous it is. And people know
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Speaker 11: about that and understand that other people might try and
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Speaker 11: morph and change in twist now, but one nation was
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Speaker 11: clear about it. One nation has been very clear about
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Speaker 11: intermittent power and the absolute swindle, which is the wind
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Speaker 11: turbines of the solar panels, when the cheapest form of
13:51
Speaker 11: powers is cul fire power, and people and other parts
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Speaker 11: I go, if you say cold file power, they go, oh,
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Speaker 11: I can't say that because we've got to keep till seats,
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Speaker 11: you know, and people over that, And I say, mate,
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Speaker 11: I just want to cheap power. I'm dealing with the
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Speaker 11: cost of living crisis. I want you to deal straight
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Speaker 11: with me. And one nation is able to do that,
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Speaker 11: you know. And this idea that sort of conceited, well,
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Speaker 11: it's not sort of, it's exactly conceived. Oh, you'll just
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Speaker 11: be your protest party and a minor vote. I bet you.
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Speaker 11: They've got a different attitude when they need when they
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Speaker 11: need preferences. And by the way, by the way, that's
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Speaker 11: not your decision to make. This is a straight people's decision.
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Speaker 11: To make as to whose minor parties and whose major
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Speaker 11: parties and who is going to be the government. And
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Speaker 11: when you just say I'm entitled to this and you're
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Speaker 11: not allowed to have any of my honey smacks, well,
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Speaker 11: these round people I know Australia pretty well, they'll call
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Speaker 11: you for it. I go, no, mate, that's my decision.
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Speaker 11: And you know, maybe it's you that's going to have
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Speaker 11: to try and work out whether your next job is
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Speaker 11: stacking shells at Bunnings, because it's actually my job to
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Speaker 11: determine whether that's the case.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I don't think we're going to see many
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Speaker 2: former coalitional labor politicians stacking shelves at Bunnings, and maybe
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Speaker 2: that's where they do deserve to be. Barnaby Joys, thank
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Speaker 2: you so much for your time. Tonight, still to come
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Speaker 2: after the break, we will speak to Arson Ostrevsky about
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Speaker 2: what is happening and why there is such silence from
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Speaker 2: the activists about what is happening in Iran and more
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Speaker 2: virtue signaling from the world's elite. This year's Golden Globes
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Speaker 2: Koshagada will cover that and the latest from the US. Well,
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Speaker 2: let's get to what's happening in Iran now, where the
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Speaker 2: regime has been violently cracking down on protesters, the death
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Speaker 2: told now reaching at least six hundred and forty eight protesters,
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Speaker 2: but could be much much higher. A twenty three year
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Speaker 2: old university student, Rabina Aminion is among the first of
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Speaker 2: the killed protesters to be identified, shot in the back
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Speaker 2: of the head by riot police under the direction of
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Speaker 2: the regime, according to an Oslo based human rights group.
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Speaker 2: But while these brave Iranian men and women risk their
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Speaker 2: lives to call for their basic rights and dignity, the
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Speaker 2: usual activists who march on US streets are nowhere to
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Speaker 2: be seen. Human rights lawyer Arson Ostrovsky, in the head
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Speaker 2: of the Sydney office of the Australia Israel Jewish Affairs Council,
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Speaker 2: who many will remember as one of the victims of
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Speaker 2: the Bonny terror attack, has written a powerful piece in
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Speaker 2: news call papers calling out this hypocrisy.
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Speaker 3: Ostrovsky rights, if.
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Speaker 2: The so called human rights champions cannot find their voice
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Speaker 2: when heroic Iranians are bravely confronting tyranny in the streets,
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Speaker 2: then perhaps it is time to stop pretending they care
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Speaker 2: about human rights at all. Arson of Strotsky joins me
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Speaker 2: on the desk to night. Arsen, great to see you
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Speaker 2: and I hope you're okay after what happened, U Bonde,
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Speaker 2: Thank you.
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Speaker 7: I'm healing. It's surreal that it was a month ago.
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Speaker 7: But you know, the scars will go, but the the
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Speaker 7: healing will take along process. And it's time to fight
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Speaker 7: for the Australia we love and cherish, not the one
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Speaker 7: we saw under attack on the fourteenth.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Well, let's let's talk about Australia in a moment, because
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Speaker 2: you're also fighting for the rights of people in the
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Speaker 2: Middle East, in Iran, and there have been some demonstrations
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Speaker 2: in Sydney in support.
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Speaker 3: Of Iranians here.
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Speaker 2: There was one that our crews filmed today outside the
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Speaker 2: US Consulate in Sydney.
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Speaker 3: But these are comparatively.
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Speaker 2: Much smaller and mostly attended by Iranians themselves, and it
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Speaker 2: must be said some Jewish supporters too. We even filmed
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Speaker 2: a woman at that protest today who lamented herself this
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Speaker 2: deafening silence while she spoke to our reporter Crystal Wu.
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Speaker 5: Maybe massacre on the strip.
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Speaker 12: Just wake up, just wake up.
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Speaker 13: They need to wake up.
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Speaker 12: I cannot understand and the worst is just sitting.
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Speaker 2: We need to be there once as you heard that,
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Speaker 2: she said, the West is just sitting. Why do you
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Speaker 2: think there has been such silence from the usual activists
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Speaker 2: who have been marching every week in support of Gaza.
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Speaker 7: You know, it's a great question, because these people who
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Speaker 7: have marched every week supposally in support of Gaza stand
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Speaker 7: up as champions of human rights, of peace and justice.
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Speaker 7: But where are they when the Iranians, brave Iranian men
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Speaker 7: and women are standing up and fighting for the most
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Speaker 7: basic human rights and dignity against the most repressive and
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Speaker 7: brutal regime. Where are they? Where is the march across
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Speaker 7: Snihaba Bridge, where the rallies of Federation Square, where the
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Speaker 7: protest outside Parliament House. For them, It's far easier to
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Speaker 7: blame Israel for them, It's far easier to blame the
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Speaker 7: West for all the eels of the world. But when
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Speaker 7: it takes courage to actually stand up for what is
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Speaker 7: right for actual people who are being oppressed, whose human
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Speaker 7: rights and basic rights are being denied, they are silent.
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Speaker 7: And that silent equals complicity.
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Speaker 2: And you know what's ironical, perhaps understandable, is that some
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Speaker 2: of the strongest supporters of the Jewish community here and
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Speaker 2: Israelis have been Iranians themselves who understand what it's like
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Speaker 2: to be brutalized by.
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Speaker 3: A radical Islamic regime.
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Speaker 2: And now we're seeing a lot of Jewish group support
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Speaker 2: in turn the rights of the Iranian people against this regime.
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Speaker 7: Look, absolutely, you know, this Iranian regime of Iola Kamana
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Speaker 7: is the single greatest the threat to world peace. It
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Speaker 7: is not only a threat to the Middle East, to
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Speaker 7: the region exporting terror, death destruction, but it is also
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Speaker 7: one of the most brutally repressive regimes, denying their own
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Speaker 7: people basic rights. They spend billions of dollars on exporting
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Speaker 7: weapons and rockets and terror across the world, but yet
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Speaker 7: they can't spend a fraction of that money on their
19:47
Speaker 7: own people's welfare, on access to water, on their basic
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Speaker 7: economic rights, on allowing women to walk freely across the streets.
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Speaker 3: So without a HITJEBB, without a hitjob.
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Speaker 7: So those that are profess to care about Uman rights,
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Speaker 7: the weekly railies condemning Israel, ill that can possibly imagine
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Speaker 7: then nowhere to be heard in the silence really is definitely.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it speaks volumes too.
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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Adelaide Writers a Week, which has
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Speaker 2: this afternoon been canceled entirely amid the growing fallout from
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Speaker 2: its dumping of anti Israel academic Randa abdel Fatta from
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Speaker 2: next month's program. In the festival's board has now also
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Speaker 2: been dissolved following today's resignation of director Louise Adler Now.
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Speaker 2: Her resignation followed the walkout of more than one hundred
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Speaker 2: and eighty scheduled participants and half the board. In a statement,
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Speaker 2: the Adelaide Festival, which oversees the Writers Week, said, as
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Speaker 2: a board, we took this action out of respect for
20:41
Speaker 2: a community experiencing the pain from a devastating event, that
20:45
Speaker 2: community being the Jewish community and the event being Bonnai. Instead,
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Speaker 2: this decision has created more division and for that we
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Speaker 2: express arsincere apologies. Abdel Fatta, though, Arson has rejected this apology,
20:58
Speaker 2: and she's called the decision to cancel her a racist,
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Speaker 2: and she's engaged lawyers. What do you make of this
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Speaker 2: whole implosion of the Adelite Artists Week.
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Speaker 7: Look, it's terribly sad the situation that we've arrived at writers'
21:10
Speaker 7: festivals are meant to be, you know, forums for free speech,
21:14
Speaker 7: exchange of ideas, but sadly, over the years that become
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Speaker 7: hubs where anti Semitism has become so widespread and entrench
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Speaker 7: Now it should not have come to this, but it has,
21:25
Speaker 7: and partly in large but anyway, over years of platforming
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Speaker 7: writers who instead of exchanging in ideas and robust debate,
21:32
Speaker 7: have actually so discord and disunity and hateful language targeted
21:37
Speaker 7: specifically against the Jewish community. Now, obviously wish you didn't
21:41
Speaker 7: have to come to this, but it has, and at
21:45
Speaker 7: a time when we should be coming together to heal,
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Speaker 7: especially as we still mourn the fifteen people who are
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Speaker 7: murdered in the Bondai attack, this really wasn't a time
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Speaker 7: to only pour more fuel on this division.
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think abdel bat It should never
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Speaker 2: have been given an invite in the first place. After
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Speaker 2: the past two years, she's just poured fuel on the
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Speaker 2: fire of anti Semitism. She posted a picture of a
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Speaker 2: Palestinian paraglider the day of October seven, and it hasn't
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Speaker 2: stopped since. So it's a wonder she was invited. They
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Speaker 2: should have known this could happen, but they go. Look,
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Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier how you were among the victims of
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Speaker 2: last month's horrific terror attack in Bonti, Aarsen. Now some
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Speaker 2: of the other victims and their families are speaking out.
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Speaker 12: Shana Gutnick, whose father.
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Speaker 2: Reuben Morrison, was killed as he bravely tried to protect
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Speaker 2: others by throwing bricks at one of the gunmen. She's
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Speaker 2: called for the federal government to set up a new
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Speaker 2: compensation scheme for the relatives of those murdered in the attack. Currently,
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Speaker 2: relatives close relatives of those killed, they're eligible for up
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Speaker 2: to seventy five thousand dollars in payments, but that's from
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Speaker 2: the New South Wales government in a joint package with
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Speaker 2: a federal one. And this figure was called ridiculous by
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Speaker 2: another victim's relative. Do you think up to some five
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Speaker 2: thousand is enough for the relatives close relatives that those
23:03
Speaker 2: who were killed in this horrific attack?
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Speaker 7: Okayan, I actually came to the studio from Bondai and
23:09
Speaker 7: went back to the scene where where this happened, where
23:13
Speaker 7: I myself was shot. Look, there's no number that can
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Speaker 7: ever do justice to the pain, the trauma that wears
23:21
Speaker 7: a community Suffer's certainly not for those who lost loved ones.
23:24
Speaker 7: And for those including like myself, that were injured, that
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Speaker 7: was shot, and that are in a long recovery process.
23:31
Speaker 7: It's not just the physical scars, it's also the emotional scars.
23:34
Speaker 7: And it's not also just us, it's our family members
23:37
Speaker 7: in it. It's our community. And that process will be
23:39
Speaker 7: long term, and it will require not only medical bills,
23:42
Speaker 7: it will require all sorts of specialists because it's a
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Speaker 7: long process and there is no number that will adequately
23:49
Speaker 7: do that justice. But certainly any help from the government
23:53
Speaker 7: is I think are welcome.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and many people might not realize that a lot
23:57
Speaker 2: of those victims were themselves lived in housing Commission.
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Speaker 3: They're not well off.
24:03
Speaker 2: They could use the support from the government. So let's
24:07
Speaker 2: hope that they get more of what they think they need. Arsenalstrovsky,
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Speaker 2: thank you so much and good to see you doing well.
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Speaker 12: Thank you appreciate it.
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Speaker 2: Let's return to our top story tonight, and Kevin Rudd
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Speaker 2: has announced his shock resignation as Australia's ambassador to the US,
24:22
Speaker 2: quitting his role a year early. Joining me now to
24:25
Speaker 2: discuss is Skynese contributor kosher Gata kosher I spoke earlier
24:29
Speaker 2: about what a liability. I thought Rudd's historic insults about
24:33
Speaker 2: Donald Trump were to his ambassadorship. Do you think these
24:37
Speaker 2: played a role in his early resignation.
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Speaker 14: We can only speculate it was a liability. I think
24:44
Speaker 14: you're spot on. It certainly wasn't an asset, to see
24:47
Speaker 14: the least, and most recently, there was that round eble
24:50
Speaker 14: discussion in the White House where Trump no infamously said
24:54
Speaker 14: to him mean, I don't know who you are, I
24:56
Speaker 14: don't like you.
24:56
Speaker 3: I probably never will. So I'm sure that is playing
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Speaker 3: some in some.
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Speaker 14: Way, even though, of course the official explanation is that
25:04
Speaker 14: he is voluntarily stepping down. He already has his next
25:07
Speaker 14: rale lined up. He's returning to the think tank that
25:10
Speaker 14: he used to be the CEO of, And you know
25:12
Speaker 14: that remains the official story. But we will we will
25:15
Speaker 14: never know exactly what else went on behind the scenes.
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Speaker 14: It is of course in Australia's interest to have somebody
25:20
Speaker 14: there that can work with the current administration and work
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Speaker 14: on advancing Australia's interests and earn the respect of the
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Speaker 14: Trump administration.
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Speaker 2: Well, I hope we will find out. We will one
25:29
Speaker 2: day learn the truth. There have been leaks known to
25:31
Speaker 2: come from the Trump administration and this federal government administration.
25:36
Speaker 2: So I hope you're wrong at least on that count,
25:38
Speaker 2: Koshin we find out more.
25:40
Speaker 3: Let's move on out to.
25:41
Speaker 2: The Iranian regime's brutal crackdown on protesters. I spoke a
25:45
Speaker 2: little earlier about how the figure has been put at
25:48
Speaker 2: six hundred and forty eight people by a human rights group,
25:51
Speaker 2: but they also say the real number of deaths could
25:54
Speaker 2: be more than six thousand. Protesters killed by the regime,
25:58
Speaker 2: and the regime is now said to x acute the
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Speaker 2: first protester, a twenty six year old man sentenced to
26:04
Speaker 2: hanging tomorrow for quote waging war against God. US President
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump had over the weekend warn Tehran that violence
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Speaker 2: against protesters would be met with a US military response,
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Speaker 2: and while he did speak yesterday Kosho about the regime
26:19
Speaker 2: wanting to negotiate, the White House has also confirmed he
26:23
Speaker 2: is weighing up whether it's still bomb run.
26:26
Speaker 3: Do you think that the.
26:27
Speaker 2: US will move to actually launch strikes now that we're
26:30
Speaker 2: learning more about how many protesters are being killed and
26:33
Speaker 2: now sentenced to death.
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Speaker 14: You know, one of the things about President Trump is
26:39
Speaker 14: he is very unpredictable. He wears that as a badge
26:43
Speaker 14: of honor, and it's one of his tactics really where
26:45
Speaker 14: you never know which way he's going to go. What
26:48
Speaker 14: we can do is look at what his preference and
26:50
Speaker 14: his pattern has been historically. He really does not like
26:54
Speaker 14: the idea of troops on the ground. He knows his
26:56
Speaker 14: base is very much against it. As atrocious as what's
27:00
Speaker 14: happening there on the ground is for the Ranian people,
27:02
Speaker 14: doesn't want to get sucked into another quagmire. We also
27:05
Speaker 14: know that he is not shy to do these quick
27:07
Speaker 14: surgical either bombs or operations like what we saw in
27:11
Speaker 14: Venezuela and of course just the twelve day war here
27:14
Speaker 14: with Iran. So I think he has proven that he
27:16
Speaker 14: is willing to do that, even sometimes at the cost
27:20
Speaker 14: of not having that favored by his base. He has
27:23
Speaker 14: done it and could very.
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Speaker 3: Well do that.
27:25
Speaker 14: I think the other thing that he really loves is
27:26
Speaker 14: economic sanctions, where if that does the job before getting
27:30
Speaker 14: involved militarily. That tends to be his tool of preference.
27:33
Speaker 14: And the only thing that the Iranian regime really has
27:36
Speaker 14: now their lifeblood is oil and exports of oil, specifically
27:39
Speaker 14: to China. Is the biggest buyer of it. So if
27:41
Speaker 14: he somehow is able to toughly tighten the sanctions on that,
27:45
Speaker 14: or even do something physical that some flavor of what
27:48
Speaker 14: happened in Venezuela to somehow put a choke point on that,
27:52
Speaker 14: I think that's what he would favor, probably more than
27:54
Speaker 14: he has announced time.
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Speaker 1: Hotel.
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Speaker 2: He did announce on that point, he was imposing a
27:59
Speaker 2: twenty five percent tear upon goods for nations with commercial
28:02
Speaker 2: ties to the regime. How do you think that's enough?
28:05
Speaker 2: Do you think that would be effective?
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Speaker 3: Possibly?
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Speaker 14: I think for an economy that's as much in despair
28:12
Speaker 14: as Iran is right now, there are something like half
28:14
Speaker 14: the people are below the poverty line, inflation is forty
28:16
Speaker 14: percent plus, that kind of thing can have an impact.
28:20
Speaker 14: But as we're seeing, just with what you're saying, with
28:22
Speaker 14: the executions and the mass arrests and everything else they've
28:25
Speaker 14: blacked out the internet, this regime is going to fight
28:27
Speaker 14: back and certainly won't go down easily even if they
28:31
Speaker 14: are on the brink of despair economically. So whether the
28:33
Speaker 14: number is twenty five or it needs to go higher,
28:36
Speaker 14: or there needs to be more of an embargo from
28:37
Speaker 14: other nations remains to be seen. It gets complicated because
28:41
Speaker 14: allies of the US, like India and others are buyers
28:44
Speaker 14: as well of that oil. So that's where things get
28:46
Speaker 14: politically tricky. But I think that's going to be where
28:48
Speaker 14: he goes first, as opposed to going very kinetic.
28:51
Speaker 3: But again with him, you never.
28:53
Speaker 2: Know, No, you never know, and it will happen in
28:55
Speaker 2: the middle of the night like it did last time
28:58
Speaker 2: on Iran, and then they'll do the explainer later or
29:01
Speaker 2: even with ben Azuela. You just don't know, but no
29:03
Speaker 2: doubt he will take tough action if it is needed. Look,
29:07
Speaker 2: let's turn to something a bit lighter now. Yesterday's Golden
29:10
Speaker 2: Globes became yet another chance for self righteous Hollywood celebrities
29:15
Speaker 2: to virtue signal about the latest leftis cause, and this
29:18
Speaker 2: time the usual suspects exchange their Palestine pins for ones calling.
29:24
Speaker 12: For Ice out and be good Now.
29:27
Speaker 2: That one is in tribute to Renee Good, the woman
29:31
Speaker 2: who was shot by an Ice agent after being accused
29:34
Speaker 2: of driving her car in his direction. Here's actor Mark
29:38
Speaker 2: Ruffalo with more about why he's wearing his pin and
29:42
Speaker 2: hint this we don't have the SoundBite. I'm told, but
29:47
Speaker 2: it is expert Trump derangement level kosher. He goes on
29:51
Speaker 2: to talk about Benezuhaler and the illegal invasion and how
29:55
Speaker 2: Trump doesn't care about international law, and then he says, well,
29:59
Speaker 2: Trump is a convicted ripist and a pedophile. I don't
30:02
Speaker 2: know how he can get away with calling the president
30:04
Speaker 2: a pedophile.
30:05
Speaker 12: I think Trump's lawyers might be in contact.
30:07
Speaker 2: But these celebrities never failed to shove their morals superiority
30:11
Speaker 2: down auth roads, do they never?
30:14
Speaker 14: Ever, even when it's getting old, it doesn't seem to
30:17
Speaker 14: have the same sting that perhaps it had when Trump
30:20
Speaker 14: first entered the political arena in twenty sixteen, and they
30:23
Speaker 14: were all doing this on the point about calling him
30:26
Speaker 14: a quote convicted rapist and pedophile. That is something that
30:29
Speaker 14: actually very well could earn Mike Ruffalo a lawsuit potentially.
30:33
Speaker 14: And again I say this because Trump has done this
30:35
Speaker 14: most recently for exactly that to George Sephanopolis and ABC,
30:39
Speaker 14: because that actually is something that is factually untrue. The
30:43
Speaker 14: Egen Carol case that they always love to point to,
30:45
Speaker 14: that was not actually what the allegation was or what
30:48
Speaker 14: the conviction was based on. So he has caused there
30:50
Speaker 14: even though It is very, very hard in the US,
30:53
Speaker 14: with the First Amendment for public figures to sue that
30:55
Speaker 14: one might have been a bridge too far for him.
30:58
Speaker 3: But you know, that's what Hollywood does.
31:00
Speaker 14: Renee Good is their latest political martyr, just like the
31:04
Speaker 14: Black Squares of George Floyd and all of that. I know,
31:07
Speaker 14: nobody wore anything about Charlie Kirk, for an example, but
31:09
Speaker 14: we aren't surprising.
31:10
Speaker 12: True, No, we aren't surprised. And I guess Renee Good
31:12
Speaker 12: is the latest.
31:13
Speaker 2: Cause d joure how they signal to everyone that they
31:16
Speaker 2: are morally better than.
31:17
Speaker 12: The rest of us.
31:19
Speaker 2: Interesting on your point about the rapist and pedophile thing.
31:23
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously there were pictures lately of Trump which
31:28
Speaker 2: we've seen over many years of Trump with Epstein, but
31:31
Speaker 2: there was never any suggestion of wrongdoing and nothing has
31:36
Speaker 2: ever come out and all the files and all the releases,
31:40
Speaker 2: so I really don't know how he can even make
31:42
Speaker 2: that allegation, let alone the convicted rapist one. And I
31:47
Speaker 2: do think Trump might have a case. I mean, he's
31:48
Speaker 2: been quite happy to pull the legal trigger against the
31:52
Speaker 2: BBC for example.
31:54
Speaker 12: I don't know. I think Mark Ruffalo.
31:55
Speaker 3: Should be a bit worried he probably should.
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Speaker 14: And you know, I always say that if they had
32:00
Speaker 14: something of that nature against Trump, it would have come
32:03
Speaker 14: out in the Biden years when Biden controlled the DG
32:05
Speaker 14: and the Epstein files. It didn't, So there isn't anything there.
32:08
Speaker 14: Mark Ruffalo should watch his inbox.
32:10
Speaker 12: Yeah, maybe you should.
32:12
Speaker 2: Maybe you'll be wearing a different kind of pit next year.
32:14
Speaker 12: Who knows.
32:14
Speaker 2: Okay, kosher Garda, Thank you so much for your time
32:16
Speaker 2: still to come at Young Ossie's pushback against the corporate
32:20
Speaker 2: cancelation of Australia Day.
32:22
Speaker 12: Our panel will discuss that next.
32:29
Speaker 9: Well.
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Speaker 2: Joining me now is former Liberal and p Nicole Flint
32:32
Speaker 2: and Danika did Georgio, the host of three new Sky
32:35
Speaker 2: News shows this year, Opinionated on Friday nights, Danika did
32:39
Speaker 2: Georgio on Sundays and Donika Goes Global every Monday on YouTube.
32:43
Speaker 2: Congratulations my friend, Anika, and welcome to you both.
32:48
Speaker 3: Let's kick off.
32:49
Speaker 2: With a new poll by the Institute of Public Affairs,
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Speaker 2: which has found the majority of young people don't want
32:55
Speaker 2: companies to allow staff to take an alternative day off
33:00
Speaker 2: to the Australia Day holiday. Major companies like Telstra, PwC,
33:04
Speaker 2: KPMG and the big four banks all allow staff to
33:08
Speaker 2: take the public holiday on a day other than January
33:11
Speaker 2: twenty six and are whopping. Seventy two percent of Australian
33:15
Speaker 2: aged eighteen to twenty four think this practice is wrong,
33:18
Speaker 2: and fifty three percent of those twenty five to thirty
33:21
Speaker 2: four against the move.
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Speaker 3: Janique, I'll start with you.
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Speaker 2: I think a lot of big corporations would assume younger
33:27
Speaker 2: people were anti Australia Day, since they do tend to
33:31
Speaker 2: be more progressive.
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Speaker 12: But this shows that's actually wrong.
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Speaker 13: No, you're right, and thank you for your kind words
33:37
Speaker 13: at the start there. It does show that it's wrong.
33:39
Speaker 13: And I do wonder, Caroline, if we can put it
33:41
Speaker 13: down to the events of the last twelve months in
33:43
Speaker 13: this country, because when we have seen the terrorist attack,
33:46
Speaker 13: for example in Bondai, it actually brings people together and
33:49
Speaker 13: it makes people really question our values and question what
33:51
Speaker 13: it means to be an Australian. So I'm wondering if
33:54
Speaker 13: that did have an influence.
33:55
Speaker 12: But overall, I still think that the progressive left really.
33:59
Speaker 13: Hates our value use and over time they've been seeking
34:01
Speaker 13: to destroy everything that it means to be an Australian
34:04
Speaker 13: and to take down everything that the wonderful British settlers
34:07
Speaker 13: brought here and that we should be so proud of,
34:10
Speaker 13: in my opinion, pretending that Australia Day doesn't exist, or
34:14
Speaker 13: trying to, you know, swap the days out like these
34:16
Speaker 13: big corporations are, it's actually a slap in the face
34:19
Speaker 13: for the every day Aussies who love this country, love
34:22
Speaker 13: our values, and are proud to be Australians. Now, if
34:25
Speaker 13: you're not proud to be an Australian, that I would
34:26
Speaker 13: ask the question, what on earth.
34:28
Speaker 5: Are you doing here?
34:29
Speaker 13: Because on January twenty six, on Australia Day, we'll all
34:32
Speaker 13: get to wake up, not in a war zone, not
34:34
Speaker 13: in a third world country, not protesting for our rights.
34:38
Speaker 13: I'll watch your interview earlier about Iran, because we already
34:42
Speaker 13: have those freedoms and we should be grateful for it.
34:45
Speaker 13: And also, Caroline, these big corporations should learn from their
34:48
Speaker 13: past mistakes. Look what happened to Woolworths when they backed
34:51
Speaker 13: the Voice. Then they banned Australia Day merchandise. They were
34:54
Speaker 13: forced to backflip. We saw the Australian Venues Code. They
34:57
Speaker 13: had to backflip as well on their plan to cancel
35:00
Speaker 13: Australia Day events at pubs, so it backfires.
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Speaker 12: Go woke go.
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Speaker 3: I was going to say the exact same thing.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a cliche for a reason, because it's true, Nicole.
35:10
Speaker 2: The new South Wales Premier Chris Means and outs today
35:12
Speaker 2: what he's called the country's largest Australia Day program, which
35:16
Speaker 2: will also feature a tribute to those affected by the
35:18
Speaker 2: Boni terror attack. Nicole, I'm not sure what they're planning
35:21
Speaker 2: in South Australia, but I think it is heartening to
35:24
Speaker 2: see a return to pride in the national Day and
35:27
Speaker 2: coming from the state government, especially at a time of
35:31
Speaker 2: such deep pain and division in Sydney.
35:35
Speaker 15: It certainly is. And let's hope that the Prime Minister
35:39
Speaker 15: follows the lead of Premier Chris Mins and does something
35:44
Speaker 15: very symbolic which would be well, not just symbolic but practical,
35:48
Speaker 15: which would be forcing every single council around Australia to reinstate.
35:53
Speaker 15: There Australia Day celebrations and there are Australia Day citizenship ceremonies,
35:58
Speaker 15: because becoming citizen on Australia Day is one of the
36:03
Speaker 15: best events that I attended as a Federal Member of Parliament.
36:08
Speaker 15: It's really special in the fact that we have let
36:10
Speaker 15: so many woke councils get away with denigrating our national day.
36:16
Speaker 15: It has to stop. And it's really exciting to also
36:19
Speaker 15: see so many young people saying no, we want to
36:22
Speaker 15: keep Australia Day. It's important to us, it's important to
36:25
Speaker 15: our nation and we are so sick of being told
36:28
Speaker 15: what to do and what to think. And this poll
36:32
Speaker 15: shows that there is great hope for our future.
36:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.
36:36
Speaker 2: And also if you don't want to celebrate the day
36:38
Speaker 2: and take the day off work, then you shouldn't get
36:40
Speaker 2: another one. In my view, that's it. You take Johnny
36:43
Speaker 2: six off, but you don't get another one. Look, let's
36:45
Speaker 2: talk about premieer just into Alan. She's been heckled in
36:49
Speaker 2: a regional Victorian town overclaims of labor mismanagement of the
36:53
Speaker 2: bushfire disaster. Alan arrived in the town of Alexandria, where
36:58
Speaker 2: dozens of homes were lost, but the prem you didn't
37:00
Speaker 2: get the best reception.
37:02
Speaker 12: Take a look.
37:03
Speaker 2: Shame on you.
37:03
Speaker 16: Shame when you're govern taking or what you've done caused
37:06
Speaker 16: the situation and what you're doing to not covers out
37:10
Speaker 16: the policies of this government is what's caused the situation.
37:14
Speaker 16: And to see even this morning the statement issuedes A
37:16
Speaker 16: denying that the funding had been cut to our services
37:20
Speaker 16: when we had fire fighters on our doorstep crying, apologizing
37:26
Speaker 16: for not being able to get truckt to us sooner.
37:28
Speaker 2: Nicole, the Premier has delied any culpability here.
37:31
Speaker 3: But the criticisms are fair.
37:33
Speaker 12: I think.
37:35
Speaker 15: Well they are because the reports are showing that the
37:38
Speaker 15: Victorian Labor government have cut at least ten million dollars
37:42
Speaker 15: of funding from the CFA. There's nothing more important than
37:45
Speaker 15: keeping all Australians safe during bush fire season and so
37:50
Speaker 15: I hope that the Victorian Liberal opposition and the coalition
37:55
Speaker 15: in Victoria hold the Allen government to account. And it's
38:00
Speaker 15: just devastating what we've seen unfolding Victoria, and understandably people
38:05
Speaker 15: are devastated and very upset.
38:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, very tragic. The life has also been lost there.
38:12
Speaker 2: I wanted to get both of your reactions. I'll start
38:14
Speaker 2: with you, Denika, to Kevin Rudd's shock resignation today as
38:17
Speaker 2: Australia's ambassador to the US. He'll be leaving at the
38:20
Speaker 2: end of March. Deanika, were you surprised by.
38:23
Speaker 13: This, Oh no, I mean this was a long time coming.
38:26
Speaker 13: Finally the elephant in the room, Caroline, has finally been addressed.
38:30
Speaker 13: Goodbye and good riddance. Perhaps now he can actually go
38:33
Speaker 13: back to being Kevin from Queensland, that iconic slogan that
38:37
Speaker 13: he likes to peddle out. Look, the reality is is
38:39
Speaker 13: in October last year, Donald Trump told Kevin Rudd to
38:42
Speaker 13: his face, I don't like you either. Now that should
38:46
Speaker 13: have been the warning signal. Yet Anthony Alberenez he went
38:48
Speaker 13: and back to Kevin Rudd in for another twelve months.
38:51
Speaker 13: Of course, on top of all of other Kevin Rudd's transgressions,
38:55
Speaker 13: when he called Trump the village uniot, he called him
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Speaker 13: a traded to the West, the frantically annihilated all evidence.
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Speaker 12: After Donald Trump was.
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Speaker 13: Re elected and all we hear about are these drag
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Speaker 13: queen parties that he's been holding over at the ambassador's residence.
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Speaker 13: While at the same time, of course UCAS was on
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Speaker 13: the rocks. Back then, Anthony Arberezi could not get a
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Speaker 13: meeting with Donald Trump and.
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Speaker 3: We were slapped with all of those tariffs.
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Speaker 13: So it's time to actually take the role seriously, put
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Speaker 13: somebody in there who respects the relationship. It's our most
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Speaker 13: important relationship, and somebody who actually puts politics aside and
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Speaker 13: cares about the job.
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Speaker 3: So no, bye bye, Kevin.
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Speaker 2: You're not too sorry to see him go, Nicole. He's
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Speaker 2: not going to meet Kevin from Queensland again, as Denika
39:38
Speaker 2: is hoping too soon.
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Speaker 12: He's staying in Washington.
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Speaker 2: He's taken his former role as president of this think tank,
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Speaker 2: this Asia Institute. Do you buy though, that that was
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Speaker 2: the reason that he's left this position or you skeptical
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Speaker 2: like men Deneka.
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Speaker 15: Look, the jury is out and we'll probably never know.
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Speaker 15: But there have been reports today, of course, that he's
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Speaker 15: quite happy to no longer be having to fulfill the
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Speaker 15: role of ambassador and be on his best behavior so
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Speaker 15: that he can be off the leasure again and attacking
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Speaker 15: President Donald Trump whenever he likes, and criticizing the US administration.
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Speaker 15: So goodness knows how this unfolds for our nation, because
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Speaker 15: if he does take a more let's say, aggressive and
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Speaker 15: assertive role and doesn't have to watch what he's saying anymore,
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Speaker 15: that could be quite damaging for our diplomatic relations.
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Speaker 2: Again, yeah, very quickly, Nicole, quickly get a reaction for
40:37
Speaker 2: you since you're in South Australia. Adelaide Writers Week has
40:40
Speaker 2: now been asked after pretty much every participant about out
40:45
Speaker 2: and the half the board quit, the director of the
40:48
Speaker 2: board quit, are you going to miss it?
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Speaker 9: Well?
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Speaker 15: All I would say is that Louise Adler resigning today
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Speaker 15: is the only good thing that she has done in
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Speaker 15: her entire term as the Adelaide Writer's Week Director.
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Speaker 2: Harshwartz, I think maybe though she deserves it. Tannika to
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Speaker 2: Georgia and a conflict. Thank you very much for your time.
41:10
Speaker 2: Tonight still to come. Another Tory defector joins Nigel Farage's
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Speaker 2: Reform UK Esta cracker Ow will.
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Speaker 12: Join me next.
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Speaker 2: Let's go to the UK now And joining me now
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Speaker 2: is UK writer and broadcaster Esther kraku As to thank
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Speaker 2: you for your time. There's huge news out of London
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Speaker 2: overnight with former Conservative Party Chancellor Najim Zahawi making the
41:37
Speaker 2: move to Nigel Farage's Reform UK Party.
41:41
Speaker 17: Britain needs Nigel Faraj as Prime Minister. I know this
41:47
Speaker 17: may come as a surprise to my old party and
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Speaker 17: to many Westminster watchers.
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Speaker 2: He joins more than twenty Tory MPs and counselors who
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Speaker 2: have defected to the party since the last general election.
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Speaker 2: But Conservatives aren't happy about it, obviously, and Hope hit
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Speaker 2: out at Zahawi saying he's jumped on a gravy train.
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Speaker 2: But he's like in the current state of Britain to
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Speaker 2: the past struggles of Iraq as to how damaging is
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Speaker 2: this to the Tories and how much of a coup
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Speaker 2: is this for Reform On.
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Speaker 18: A practical level, it's not damaging at all to the
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Speaker 18: Tories because Nadine's of how he's a former MP, so
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Speaker 18: he didn't really have much standing obviously within Parliament but
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Speaker 18: certainly not within the Conservative Party, and he's known for
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Speaker 18: kind of switching loyalties. I mean, this is someone who
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Speaker 18: lasted through the dying days of Boris Johnson's administration when
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Speaker 18: basically everyone was resigning, and then he backlers trust who
42:41
Speaker 18: lasted not as long as a head of Letters, which
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Speaker 18: became an infamous meme in the UK. So it looks
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Speaker 18: like his loyalties is quite cheap to buy. The problem
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Speaker 18: that Reform has is that they don't want to be
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Speaker 18: seen as Tory light. They don't want to take on
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Speaker 18: too many former Tories because then they just look like
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Speaker 18: the old Conservative Party that put Britain through fourteen years
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Speaker 18: of poor governance basically. And one thing he said that
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Speaker 18: is correct is that the UK is in a very
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Speaker 18: poor state now in terms of political machinations. The reality
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Speaker 18: is Nadim Zahawi has been allowed to during reform so
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Speaker 18: that he can help with party donations. He's a self
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Speaker 18: made millionaire. But Niger Farrag has to be very careful
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Speaker 18: because this is also a man who had to pay
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Speaker 18: the revenue five million pounds to settle his tax bill,
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Speaker 18: so he does have some controversies brewing around in his
43:26
Speaker 18: past as well. I'm sure he's eyeing up a lordship
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Speaker 18: like many people who are high ranking tories that tend
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Speaker 18: to deffect to reform, just like Nadine Dorries and all
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Speaker 18: of these people that will former Boris supporters, They're probably
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Speaker 18: looking at some sort of sweet, cozy role. If Niger
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Speaker 18: Farrage becomes the next Prime minister, which according to the
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Speaker 18: Poles seems quite likely at this point.
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Speaker 2: I mean, that would be incredible, and you're righted, the
43:52
Speaker 2: polls do make it look like increasingly likely, but just
43:55
Speaker 2: to see how a minor party not so minor anymore
43:59
Speaker 2: has risen over there.
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Speaker 12: Is astonishing to wash and look.
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Speaker 2: During this announcement, we heard Nigel Farage speak about the
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Speaker 2: proposed social media ban for people under sixteen. Of course
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Speaker 2: we have that in effect here in Australia now. Conservative
44:14
Speaker 2: leader Kemmy Badenoch has.
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Speaker 12: Backed the ban, but Farage.
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Speaker 2: Says the country should wait and see how things go
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Speaker 2: here before making any decision here.
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Speaker 1: He is I'm not very keen generally on banning things.
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Speaker 1: My answer would be, let's see where Australia is in
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Speaker 1: six months time. Let's see whether this actually works.
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Speaker 14: Now.
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Speaker 1: Look, you know we have laws of cause about what
44:36
Speaker 1: age you can start drinking. I mean, you know, do
44:39
Speaker 1: those laws actually stop people drinking under eighteen? I'm not
44:42
Speaker 1: sure they do. I would say, let's see the Australian experiment,
44:45
Speaker 1: Let's see how it works, and then make our.
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Speaker 2: Minds up as to do you think he's right and
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Speaker 2: where do you think most Britains sit on this issue?
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Speaker 12: Do you think people want a ban like this over there?
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Speaker 5: I think he's right.
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Speaker 18: I think he has the right instinct which banning isn't
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Speaker 18: always the solution, and that people tend to find a
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Speaker 18: way around things when you ban them. Banning doesn't necessarily
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Speaker 18: mean effectiveness, because another folly of the British status we
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Speaker 18: never actually enforce the laws that we ban because we
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Speaker 18: can't afford to, or we don't have enough police officers
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Speaker 18: or law enforcement to actually make things work. And so
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Speaker 18: I do think he's right in that instance. But again,
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Speaker 18: I don't think there are very many people that would
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Speaker 18: scream about the benefits of.
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Speaker 5: People on the age of sixteen being on social media.
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Speaker 18: I quite frankly don't enjoy certain apps like TikTok and
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Speaker 18: all of that, but that's because I think it's rotting
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Speaker 18: the brains of young people who should be focusing on
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Speaker 18: other things that are more valuable and less time consuming.
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Speaker 18: But again he's right in the sense that, you know,
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Speaker 18: banning things outright may not necessarily be the solution, especially
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Speaker 18: if you don't know how it's going to work out.
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Speaker 18: So I think he's right. I think most people in
45:48
Speaker 18: the UK also feel the same thing. There's so many
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Speaker 18: things in Britain that are banned. You will not believe it,
45:53
Speaker 18: but you wouldn't even know because people just find a
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Speaker 18: way around it. I mean, you know, people under the
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Speaker 18: age of eighteen are technically banned from using I can
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Speaker 18: tell you they're very much using porn.
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Speaker 3: I don't think I'd be surprised to hear that.
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Speaker 2: Look, there are concerns as well that the former Prince Andrew,
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Speaker 2: the former Prince Andrew and his ex wife Sarah Ferguson,
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Speaker 2: will try to flog valuable royal items in a desperate
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Speaker 2: bid to raise cash before they're evicted.
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Speaker 12: From the Royal Lodge at the end of this month.
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Speaker 12: There are fears that.
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Speaker 2: Private letters, recordings and jewels could all be auctioned off esther.
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Speaker 2: It's now reportedly prompted the Palace to enlist legal advisors,
46:32
Speaker 2: So that would suggest that there are some genuine concerns here.
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Speaker 2: Do you think that the couple, we former couple could
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Speaker 2: seriously be trying to do this.
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Speaker 5: I wouldn't put it past them.
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Speaker 18: One thing that we do know about, you know, a
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Speaker 18: Sarah Ferguson and the former Prince Andrew, is that they've
46:50
Speaker 18: always been happy to make a bit of money off
46:53
Speaker 18: of their role within the royal family. That's actually apparently
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Speaker 18: how Jeffrey Epstein came onto the scene and became such
46:59
Speaker 18: close form with Prince Andrew. It was because he was
47:01
Speaker 18: trying to find a way to make some connections and
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Speaker 18: some money for his then wife, and then just stayed
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Speaker 18: friends with the financier. I wonder what of his tons
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Speaker 18: of millions of dollars would have enticed him to do that,
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Speaker 18: But I'm sure the Royal family had obviously made provisions
47:15
Speaker 18: for this. We know that once Prince Andrew was stripped
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Speaker 18: of his of his title, there was a likelihood that
47:21
Speaker 18: they could lash out for We know that Sarah Ferguson's
47:23
Speaker 18: finances haven't been in the best position for a long
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Speaker 18: time now, and I think this was kind of probably
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Speaker 18: the final nail in the coffin.
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Speaker 5: So clearly the Royal family are taking all precautions.
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Speaker 18: The last thing you'd want to see would be some
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Speaker 18: sort of intimately written letter by the Queen popping up
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Speaker 18: on Amazon because Andrew wants to.
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Speaker 5: Make a few quid. It would just be a nightmare.
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Speaker 2: Oh, it would be so undignified. But you're right, he
47:44
Speaker 2: doesn't have the best record.
47:46
Speaker 3: Look very very quickly before you go.
47:48
Speaker 2: There are talks that they could be a return to
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Speaker 2: the UK for Prince Harry and Meghan after the Invictor's Game.
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Speaker 3: Some of the preview games this year.
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Speaker 2: Do you think that likely happened, and what sort of
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Speaker 2: reception do you think that Meghan and particular we'll get.
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Speaker 18: Well, it would be Megan's first time in Britain in
48:04
Speaker 18: four years, so that will certainly get a lot of reception,
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Speaker 18: and I'm be seeing actually rumors of that in the newspaper.
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Speaker 18: What we have been hearing is that Prince Harry is
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Speaker 18: really keen to get his father involved, which I can
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Speaker 18: tell you now Prince William will not let happen under
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Speaker 18: any circumstances.
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Speaker 12: I think.
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Speaker 2: Look, I think it would be nice for the King
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Speaker 2: to have a relationship with his son again, but I
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Speaker 2: dare say you're right, William won't allow.
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Speaker 12: It for the time being.
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Speaker 2: Esther Cragley, thanks for your time and thank you for
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Speaker 2: your company.
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Speaker 12: Tonight.
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Speaker 2: I'll be back here right again tomorrow at six. The
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