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Ritual Abuse Survivor Reveals Puzzle Pieces: MK-Ultra, Cabal Allegations, Spiritual Programming & Mind Control from Birth · Unleashing Intuition Secrets

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  Hello everyone, it's Michael Jacob with Unleashing Intuition Secrets.
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  So I'm with Laura Worley today.
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  She's a dedicated author, speaker, trainer, and coach who has built
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  her career around supporting survivors of complex trauma and
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  ritual abuse for the last 14 years.
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  Through her compassionate and a formed approach, she has successfully guided
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  individuals worldwide on their healing journeys, helping them reclaim their
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  lives and find hope in recovery.
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  As an accomplished author, Laura has pinned three influential books
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  and serve as essential resources for both survivors and professionals
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  working in the specialized field of ritual abuse recovery.
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  Her groundbreaking training program developed from years of experience
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  research equips professionals with from diverse backgrounds with the
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  specialized skills and a knowledge needed to effectively support clients.
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  Who have experienced Satanic ritual abuse at MK Ultra Programming.
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  Laura, thanks so much for joining us.
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  Thanks for having me.
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  Yeah.
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  I've seen your work over the years, so this is a great honor to see you.
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  We were talking before, before the show and I said, uh, you know, you're the
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  type of hero that America needs more of.
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  And you know, we have all of these, political types and Hollywood types
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  that are part of the ritual abuse, program, and they're the heroes that
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  we're, you know, putting on pedestals.
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  You're the one that should be on the pedestal, so thank you so much.
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  Well, I don't think I've ever heard anybody say that to me
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  in 30 years, but thank you.
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  It's usually you're crazy.
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  Well, you know, I've, I've seen a lot of heroes over my years.
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  Some people say I am, but you know, I'm, I don't see it.
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  But, uh, you know, whatever people, uh, you know, aspire to, putting people on a
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  hero level, uh, we're you and I both are very humbled and, uh, I think that's one
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  of the reasons why we get communication.
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  We were just talking about how God communicates with us and leads us to
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  certain revelations to help, uh, other people you know, recover and so forth.
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  He has taught me so much, but I will tell you, it wasn't easy in learning
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  because when I was trying to get help in the nineties, nobody knew how to help.
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  Right.
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  And so they would either say, they would literally say this to my
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  face, which is horrible to hear.
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  I don't know how to help you.
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  Or that doesn't exist.
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  That doesn't happen.
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  You're crazy.
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  Nobody actually said I was crazy to my face, but I know they thought it.
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  So that's kinda what I dealt with.
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  And I finally realized I'm not getting professional help.
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  I need to figure this out on my own.
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  And that kind of started the journey of like holistic modalities and God
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  just shot, showed me so much and taught me, but it was step at a time.
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  And unfortunately in that process, some other horrible
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  things happened when I was older.
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  So this wasn't, this isn't just from when I was a young child
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  or a teenager or a young woman.
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  Anyway, I could explain a little bit if you want about my life
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  just to help them understand.
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  Yeah.
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  Let's, let's, uh, go.
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  You know, we, we talked before the show and I heard you on another
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  show where you talked about all the way before you're even birthed.
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  They're looking at you, uh, yes.
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  For potential, uh, you know, ritual abuse per person.
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  So tell us about how that, that blew my mind.
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  I was like, you know, sometimes I think I, I, I know it, uh, about everything
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  and then something like that comes along.
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  It's like, whoa, this is another level.
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  So give us some insight on that.
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  I think that's gonna be very helpful for people.
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  What they do is the training and programming in the MK
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  Ultra starts in the womb.
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  Okay.
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  And that conception, they do a very evil download to split
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  your mind right off the bat.
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  So all of this stuff is, they're getting help with demons.
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  Okay.
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  Demons are helping them figure this out.
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  So when the child is in the womb, the demon will tell the, whoever's
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  programming them or that they.
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  Are this or they are that, and they know what kind of job is gonna be
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  assigned to them going into the future.
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  Like what are they more able to do?
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  What are the skillset that God gave them?
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  And they just take it, steal it, and turn it into what they want for evil.
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  Because they already know you have a talent for good.
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  And that's all they do is just take for evil.
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  I mean, that's their whole process of everything really
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  is they just steal everything.
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  Yeah that's a good point.
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  They, they steal everything.
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  Why is it they don't have that creative potential?
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  What is that?
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  Because they made a choice to follow Lucifer.
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  And Lucifer can't create either because he chose to rebel against God.
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  So he's not a creator and he cannot have children, but they steal.
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  So every single thing that the cult does is they have taken it from something
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  and they turned it on its head.
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  They've inverted it.
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  And so this is how they work.
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  Everything.
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  So they take the Bible, they take the Kabbalah, all of that is inverted.
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  And the programming people think, it's all about torture
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  and abuse and it's really not.
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  I mean it is, but it goes so much deeper than that because the programming
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  is so complex for an MK Ultra.
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  And the more you know, like the younger you are and you're in the MK Ultra,
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  now they're using technology to do the programming, which is a hundred
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  percent worse than what I had it.
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  So this is what we're up against.
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  This is not like, I'm gonna say a few prayers and I'm totally healed.
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  That's not true because the complexity of all of it, people
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  don't understand and they want you to focus on rape and torture.
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  That's what they want you to focus.
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  'cause they don't want you to know what they're really doing.
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  So anyway, that's kind of what I've been trying to teach.
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  Yeah.
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  And I, I guess, um, like, uh, you know, Kathy Bryan and you know, I've
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  had some other guests on, I've talked about, you know, how they start to
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  fracture your mind very early on.
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  So they com compartment your mind so they can use you as a, you know, conduit
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  of information, uh, secret information.
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  And of course, you know, like you've talked about, I've heard other shows where
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  you, you've talked, it's just like the sexual ritual stuff is all everything.
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  It's in everything they do.
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  Yes.
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  So they're objected to that of course.
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  So cra crazy, uh, now.
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  What did, who how were your parents?
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  Were, how were they focused and where, where was their focus?
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  'Cause I, I know that Kathy O'Brien was political.
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  And then I've had other guests on that were, that talked about how, uh, they were
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  in the basements of, uh, universities.
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  They basically medical areas, Lynn Hagerman, Scott, she talked about
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  how, very influential and, uh.
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  Successful, rich people came down and, and bid on them.
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  So where did you go?
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  Were you military or how did that work?
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  Yes.
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  So I'm gonna tell you a very long story, very short, so, excellent.
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  Okay.
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  So I was put in the MK Ultra Program in 1961.
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  So I heard my grandpa, you know, through the years saying
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  he was friends with Truman.
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  So I kind of just figured and put two and two together.
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  That's probably how I got into the MK Ultra because I'm thinking how
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  am I getting put in the MK Ultra?
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  This doesn't make sense.
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  But through the years, um, the Lord showed me that my grandfather made a deal with
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  the military and he signed a contract that he would give his family for all future
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  generations into the program, which is legally binding, spiritually and legally.
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  So the kids were given.
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  Starting with my mother.
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  She was 17 when she had me.
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  So anyway, that's kind of the things I, I knew.
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  And recently the Lord showed me, he said, go search Truman.
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  And I did.
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  And I was like, holy crap, this is everything.
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  So now let me tell you what's exciting.
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  It's exciting for me 'cause it's proof.
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  So Truman, what did he do?
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  He created the CIA Truman brought the scientist over.
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  Okay.
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  To start this mind control stuff.
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  Truman did, Truman had many meetings with the intelligent officer of Hitler.
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  Okay, this is Truman.
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  So Truman, not only that, but they, the 1947, you know, people say 1953 is
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  MK Ultra, but I believe they started 1947 in some mind control stuff.
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  And it makes sense because my mom was born in 1943 and 19 43, 19 47.
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  She's four years old.
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  They need kids.
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  And this, this is, I don't know if you have ever had this experience with
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  God, but you're, he says to research.
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  And when you research, he's opening up your mind and he's teaching things.
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  And he showed me that they needed kids and they went to my grandpa, Truman did.
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  Why?
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  Because they're in the Freemasons together.
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  That's how they're friends and they say, we need kids.
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  We'll give you a lot of money.
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  My grandpa was very rich.
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  He has a lot of money.
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  They need kids.
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  My mom's put in there, I'm born in 1961, she's 17 years old.
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  I have memories where they were putting syringes into
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  my, into the womb, towards me.
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  I mean, they do a lot of programming in the womb.
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  But anyway, they were experimenting with all kinds of shit.
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  But anyway, they were doing a lot of stuff.
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  But I, now I have proof, like this is proof for me how I
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  got into the MK Ultra program.
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  'cause I, I didn't know for sure.
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  And then what they had me do is I was what they call a presidential model, but.
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  I don't know if they did something to me in the womb so I could have
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  a photographic memory, but I did, they, they taught me how to have
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  that and to speak a few languages.
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  And so my job early on was to give messages to the presidents.
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  So that was Nixon and board, and oh my gosh, there's too
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  many experiences with Clinton's.
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  But anyway and then foreign dignitaries from all over the world.
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  And that was my job, is I would give the secret to the, the foreign, let's
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  say foreign minister, whatever, and he would give me a message that I had
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  to give back to the US government.
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  And if I ever did not say these things, I was in big trouble correctly.
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  And Kissinger was a big part of all that in my life.
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  Hmm.
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  Um, and so he, he did do some programming, but he always took me to President Nixon.
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  And to Ford into, to like high up foreign dignitaries.
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  Oh
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  wow.
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  Uh, he always made sure I went and even though he wasn't supposed to know some
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  of this stuff, he made me tell him even though it was none of his business.
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  So anyway,
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  I have a picture up here of, uh, Dewey defeats Truman.
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  So it's not, it looks like, you know, they basically decided that Truman was gonna
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  be there, so they fixed that election just like they did, you know, for Donald Trump.
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  I believe so, uh, that's, that's pretty interesting, uh, what
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  you're talking about with Truman.
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  'cause he was gonna be their guy.
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  Well, guess what?
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  He was the 33rd president and he was a 33rd Mason.
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  Wow.
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  And he, he's from Independence Missouri.
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  My family's from Independence, Missouri.
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  I mean, my grandpa always talked about it, but I didn't put any of that together.
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  Yeah,
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  for sure.
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  Until recently.
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  And so it, I mean, it's proof what they were doing.
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  You know, my mom, they broke her completely.
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  Like she did not make it.
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  She died 53 of alcoholism.
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  Oh,
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  wow.
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  Um, she did not make it at all.
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  And that happens, I think, to probably a lot of people that are
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  subjected to this mk, mind control and all the different things.
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  So, uh, how old were you when you were being used as, I guess initially what,
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  what, how did they use you initially?
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  In what age?
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  They did a lot of training me.
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  Um, but by seven I was allowed to go start meeting important people, but.
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  More, eight or nine.
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  But I had to be trained because, to the degree that they were
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  gonna give me these secrets.
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  But just to let you guys know, because I, I hear a lot of people talking about the
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  child trafficking and everything, and so I wanted to explain what I experienced
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  because it might be a tad bit different.
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  I don't know.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  So there would be a bunch of kids that were in the MK Ultra Program like me,
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  and then there were other kids that were not, they I imagine were stolen
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  or, you know, illegal, whatever.
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  We'd go to private parties where they were very rich and you
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  know, government and all that.
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  And we would be marked who could be killed and who could not, because
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  some of the people, they cannot.
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  Have sex without killing somebody or seeing somebody get killed.
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  Wow.
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  If, you know what I mean?
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  And so they want the privilege to kill a child.
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  So they literally marked us, the MK Ultra Kids couldn't be killed
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  because they had al they had been putting millions of dollars, into the
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  programming eventually to a child.
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  You know, when they're full grown, they've put a lot of money into programming.
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  So individually, do you think they're spend like, you know, a
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  million plus on each individual?
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  I really do.
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  If you're, yeah, I can only say for my category.
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  I don't know everybody.
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  So, uh, but yeah, they, so we were not allowed to be killed.
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  They could do everything else, and so sometimes we were just given to
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  somebody, but sometime there would be like an option for the night.
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  Yeah.
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  But anyway, so that's kind of how I experienced it.
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  Like they, to some degree, I think I was a little guarded because.
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  They wouldn't let them, you know, do really hurt me because then
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  I couldn't function for them in what they needed me to do.
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  I mean, Ford he did, he tore me up pretty bad.
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  He was a monster in my opinion.
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  Nixon did do things, but I don't know that he wanted to, so I'm not sure on that.
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  Yeah,
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  I, I think Kathy O'Brien said that Ford was really bad too, so
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  that validates, it validates that.
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  So that's, uh, horrific.
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  So they, they probably knew that, and theyre like, at least she won't be killed.
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  And, but she'll be, traumatized and hurt.
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  But, uh, you know, we can overcome that.
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  That's the way they think.
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  Yeah, because they, I mean, I would be taken to I mean,
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  I don't know where it was.
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  It would be big lots.
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  Okay.
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  And there would be tons of limousines.
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  And I remember this one where, well, there's many, but my father was a
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  pilot, so he flew a bunch of us kids and dropped us off, and there was
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  a whole bunch of limousines there.
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  And all the kids would get into the limousines, the different ones.
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  But when it was over, me and this girl were the only ones that came back.
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  I don't know.
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  Oh my God, what happened?
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  I can only guess, but that was kind of a big thing.
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  I would meet what do you call it to me, I think it's Middle East.
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  'cause I was just a kid I didn't know, but they were, they had robes on and dark
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  skin, and that's how I saw it, you know?
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  Right.
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  But they want one, one guy wanted to buy me and take me home and
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  they said no, because they were not going to do that because they
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  had spent too much time, you know, programming me to do this other stuff.
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  Yeah.
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  So anyway.
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  How much of that do you remember as far as like, you know, messaging and so forth?
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  Because I know they, they, they would put a message in your
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  compartmentalized side part.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  And then after that you would be white.
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  How, how did that work?
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  Yeah.
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  I don't remember any specific message.
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  Wow.
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  I, I do remember, um.
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  I told Nixon something.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  And then, then I don't know what happened.
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  I gave the message back and then, uh, I remember going back and then, then
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  Kissinger yelling at Nixon and saying, you think you're gonna get away with this?
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  So I don't know what it all meant, you know, I was a kid, so I don't know.
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  Must have passed something back to you.
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  So it was like, probably code for him.
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  We're gonna do this.
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  And he told you go tell them no.
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  Yeah.
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  And a, a messenger, you know, to get the message, you have to do something
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  sexual to the child, and then on the other end has to have something
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  sexual to get the message again.
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  Oh, wow.
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  And a code, you can't just, you know, say, gimme the message.
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  You know, they're very big with codes.
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  So they, they, they're programming you through the sexual ritual.
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  And then they're like, okay, they give you a message and then they shut you
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  down and then they send you somewhere and then they do another sexual.
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  Ritual and you mm-hmm.
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  Do you give up the message first or do you give it up during the sexual ritual?
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  How does it work?
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  They have to do a sexual thing first.
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  Okay.
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  To get a code to get the message at all.
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  Wow.
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  Um, so it, it's nothing huge though.
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  It's not, it's a huge, you know, sexual thing.
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  It's just a little, I know that sounds really weird, but in my
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  life that's kinda the way it was.
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  Um, but some of them wanted sexual things after, uh, that was more,
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  let's just say a lot more involved.
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  Um, Nixon was probably the nicest, honestly, but Ford was a creep.
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  And then, you know, I've had, I, when what's his face?
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  Was it Governor Clinton?
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  Bill Clinton.
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  He was the governor is when I first met him.
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  But a couple times it wasn't huge.
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  But then.
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  It goes into such a long story.
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  But anyway, Hillary Clinton found out about me, and then this started
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  a whole shitload of crap for a long time, uh, putting me in a
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  very serious positions, honestly.
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  Wow,
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  that's,
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  that's interesting.
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  So, and now you not to be disrespectful, but you seem to be bill Clinton's
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  type 'cause he likes the blind girls, and, uh, you've seen 'em,
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  all the people that he's molested, or at least have said he's molested
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  them, uh, and they're all like you.
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  So I could see why he would want you.
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  Uh, now what was it about Hillary that, uh, she, because I, I heard that, you
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  know, she's just as bad if not worse.
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  She's worse.
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  Oh my God.
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  She's, she is a monster.
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  Oh, wow.
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  He's just very sex addicted and evil.
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  Yeah.
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  But she is so way past that, like humanity.
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  So she has no humanity and, and I do feel like she is dead.
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  That's not the real Hillary, but
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  yeah.
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  So I was in, I don't wanna keep saying this 'cause I say it in other
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  interviews, but I was in a, um,
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  sometimes when I think of I, oh gosh,
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  stories close.
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  My audience has it.
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  So feel free to, you know, don't hold back, you know?
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  Okay.
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  Somewhere
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  else.
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  Well, I was about 15, 16 and I was put in a, it was an experiment, which the,
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  but I was in many, many experiments.
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  Uh, this was time travel.
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  And it was something very, like, it's not what you might be used to hearing.
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  So what happened is they start, there was a bunch of this, there was like a hundred
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  kids, there was all different ages, and they started doing the experiment.
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  And this took several months.
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  And as they, was
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  this, uh, in Montauk in New York or where?
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  Uh,
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  no, that's a good question.
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  Where it was, I, you know what?
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  I never even thought about where that was.
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  I'll give you, I'll do some writing and let you know.
• 19:34
  Okay.
• 19:34
  Because I, I can find out anything by writing, but
• 19:37
  Nice.
• 19:37
  So anyway, that's what Catherine
• 19:39
  Bryan is too.
• 19:40
  She does a lot of writing.
• 19:41
  That's how I remembered everything.
• 19:43
  The A therapist in 1989 that I went to, she said, just start writing out,
• 19:48
  you know, whatever comes in your mind.
• 19:50
  Yeah.
• 19:50
  And that's how I started remembering everything in great detail.
• 19:53
  So it, it's, it's a good thing for memory to remember stuff suppressed.
• 19:59
  Um,
• 20:00
  I'll try and remember that.
• 20:02
  What
• 20:03
  I'll try and remember that 'cause uh, it seems like everybody's having
• 20:05
  memory problems these days, but, uh, yeah, that, that sounds interesting.
• 20:08
  Uh, I'll try that.
• 20:10
  One of the easier ways, like when you're writing, you can ask your subconscious
• 20:13
  mind a question and then say, because, and then your subconscious has to answer
• 20:19
  because is the word that makes it answer.
• 20:22
  And then you just let whatever you like, whatever wants to say
• 20:25
  anything inside you just let that part of you talk and write it.
• 20:30
  You don't care about, you know, any kind of grammar or anything.
• 20:33
  And all kinds of things will come out.
• 20:35
  I can get great detail about anything, so
• 20:39
  I bet.
• 20:39
  I bet.
• 20:40
  Because you're probably a gen, a genius level.
• 20:44
  Uh,
• 20:44
  I don't think that, honestly, but I think they did train me to,
• 20:48
  to have the photographic memory.
• 20:50
  I'm not sure.
• 20:51
  Sure.
• 20:51
  I had it on my own.
• 20:53
  Yeah, exactly.
• 20:53
  And, and I can't even say that I could use that right now.
• 20:56
  Fully.
• 20:57
  I mean, anyway,
• 20:59
  yeah,
• 20:59
  that's, there's a lot of things you can't use that they make,
• 21:02
  they train you in, you know?
• 21:04
  So what, what kind of time travel did you, uh, do?
• 21:07
  I'm like a kid in a candy store.
• 21:08
  Like, you're so much information.
• 21:10
  It's like, wow.
• 21:11
  Uh, the long story, I'll try to make it really short, is basically it
• 21:15
  came down to a few of us kids and they were gonna do the experiment.
• 21:20
  And this is the best way I can describe it.
• 21:22
  It was a big tunnel, like a big circle.
• 21:24
  Okay.
• 21:24
  You know, like if you were going in a, under a tunnel or something,
• 21:27
  and it's just a big circle.
• 21:29
  Cement.
• 21:29
  Cement,
• 21:29
  okay.
• 21:30
  And it looked like that.
• 21:31
  And it had water running all on the outside and a lot of electricity.
• 21:36
  That's all I know.
• 21:37
  That's all I can really tell you.
• 21:38
  But what the, when we were ready, we all had to run through it.
• 21:43
  And if we made it through, we would open a door.
• 21:45
  We had an envelope and we had one hour.
• 21:47
  We were supposed to give it to the person that was in the future.
• 21:51
  We were, that's all of our assignment was.
• 21:52
  So this isn't any like fancy thing of time travel.
• 21:55
  So basically what happened is when we went in.
• 21:58
  People started blowing up and I kept running and there was
• 22:03
  two boys, and we held onto each other, which I think saved us.
• 22:07
  Oh wow.
• 22:08
  And, um, we opened the door, we made it the, I dropped my
• 22:12
  envelope, but the one boy had it.
• 22:14
  We gave it to a military man.
• 22:16
  And what we saw was the future, um, capital, Washington, DC the White House.
• 22:22
  Everything around it was in disarray, fires, chaos.
• 22:26
  People were in, you know, acting crazy.
• 22:29
  And they gave the envelope to the military person.
• 22:32
  And we did.
• 22:32
  And then they took us through something, some part of the White House underground.
• 22:37
  And then we went back in a similar fashion.
• 22:41
  And then when we came back, we held onto each other.
• 22:44
  It was just us three, like out of the whatever kids went
• 22:47
  with us, like maybe 20, 25.
• 22:49
  None of them made it.
• 22:50
  Wow.
• 22:51
  And so when we came back, we our bodies, I'm not kidding, Michael, were, we were,
• 22:56
  the, the best word is discombobulated.
• 22:59
  Like we, our particles in our body were not okay.
• 23:03
  Like everything was changed.
• 23:05
  And, um, when we would get next to each other, like we'd be in a room and
• 23:10
  they had all these metal things, you know, like their, you know, tools or
• 23:14
  whatever, and they would start shaking.
• 23:17
  I don't know, like if, if US three were together, our bodies had changed so much
• 23:22
  that we were putting out too much energy.
• 23:25
  Yeah.
• 23:26
  And things started shaking in the room.
• 23:28
  So after about six months of probing us in every possible way, they
• 23:32
  made sure we never saw each other.
• 23:33
  I still know who they are today.
• 23:35
  They're actually, uh, celebrities.
• 23:38
  But they wouldn't remember.
• 23:39
  I doubt it.
• 23:40
  But that's what happened.
• 23:41
  And then when that happened, Hillary Clinton found out about
• 23:45
  me and wanted me as a slave.
• 23:49
  And so that goes into a whole other big story.
• 23:52
  So that's my experience
• 23:55
  today.
• 23:56
  Or the person that looks like Hillary Clinton is testifying
• 23:59
  today about Jeffrey Epstein.
• 24:02
  So, uh, yeah, maybe we can kind of like go back and forth with Epstein and, and,
• 24:06
  uh, Hillary and uh, and, uh, maybe you can give us some insights of what she, you.
• 24:12
  Or whatever's going on with the Epstein files.
• 24:15
  Okay.
• 24:15
  How, how does that, I mean, there's so many different areas where we can
• 24:18
  go with this the child trafficking.
• 24:20
  'cause it sounds like from what you're saying, they need a lot of children
• 24:23
  to go through these programs 'cause they're like blowing 'em up and these
• 24:26
  portals and everything's like, wow.
• 24:29
  Tell us,
• 24:29
  this is why the illegals, there's so many illegals missing because
• 24:32
  they need them for, to experiment, to have sex with, to do everything
• 24:37
  they can with really, to be honest.
• 24:39
  And she, I have seen her do horrible things in rituals and she, the last
• 24:47
  time that I ever witnessed her at a ritual she had, I know this is
• 24:51
  gonna be so gross, so I apologize.
• 24:53
  Uh, she had drank so much, but, and thanks to the children that she went insane.
• 25:04
  She was acting absolutely insane.
• 25:08
  Whatever it did, it was whatever she, she did too much and she
• 25:12
  started acting absolutely nuts.
• 25:15
  Yeah.
• 25:15
  And they did something with her.
• 25:17
  I don't know what happened, but
• 25:19
  anyway.
• 25:19
  Yeah.
• 25:20
  The frazzle drip basically ro, uh, puts them, it's highly, highly
• 25:25
  addictive, more than heroin, uh mm-hmm.
• 25:27
  And I've had a pers I've had someone on that actually did omicron, and they
• 25:34
  talked about how they portaled in, into the future, like you're talking about.
• 25:37
  Uh, and had, conversations with people in a timeframe.
• 25:41
  And then people started noticing that they weren't, quite there.
• 25:45
  And so they, they put this guy in a trailer and started to burn the trailer.
• 25:49
  And then he portal back and he met demons and all kind of crazy stuff.
• 25:53
  So that, that stuff is crazy what it does to them.
• 25:57
  She was very into all of that stuff, yes.
• 26:00
  The child trapping, but she was like.
• 26:04
  I don't even think there's a word to describe her, what she needed.
• 26:10
  And it means like there was never enough sex, there was never enough
• 26:15
  kids, organs, blood, whatever.
• 26:18
  There was never enough for her.
• 26:20
  Yeah.
• 26:21
  And anyway.
• 26:22
  Yeah.
• 26:23
  Um,
• 26:24
  Now for, because she wanted you bill has said that, and, and I don't wanna
• 26:29
  be gross or anything, or crude, but Bill has said that she's done, you know, the
• 26:37
  oral thing with more women than he has.
• 26:39
  So, uh, it sounds, and overseas, I was overseas and they talked
• 26:43
  about how Hillary was a lesbian.
• 26:45
  So here in America, everybody thinks she's great and tell us the truth.
• 26:49
  She's more than a lesbian.
• 26:51
  I, I don't even think that I'm not kidding.
• 26:53
  There's not a word to describe her really.
• 26:56
  Seriously.
• 26:57
  I do believe she preferred women.
• 26:59
  Over men, but she definitely,
• 27:04
  okay.
• 27:05
  I can't tell you this, this part, I don't know if she preferred children or not.
• 27:09
  I don't know, but I know that she liked the other part of that.
• 27:14
  If you know what I mean.
• 27:15
  Yeah.
• 27:16
  Well, she came to, uh, I was in the CIA doing, uh, contract
• 27:21
  security work, and I, I. I had been involved in CIA contract security.
• 27:26
  They, they wanted me everywhere.
• 27:27
  They loved me.
• 27:28
  Every time I showed up, everything was great.
• 27:30
  I got this, good energy that, that I bring.
• 27:33
  So they were bringing in Hillary to, um, Islamabad and, uh, secret Service wanted
• 27:39
  our detail to basically protect her too.
• 27:42
  So I, I've told this story several times, but I'll say, I'll say it to
• 27:45
  you, you probably not heard it, but I said that, I, they, we want you, Mike,
• 27:49
  'cause you got the, the heavy weapon and we need a, M 60 guy, you know.
• 27:54
  And I was like, yeah, that's good.
• 27:56
  'cause you know, I, I probably turn it on her.
• 27:58
  And I was kind of joking, kind of not, you know, I would never do that, of course.
• 28:02
  But, uh, they're like, okay.
• 28:03
  And I wasn't on the mission, but later that night when she came in and I told
• 28:08
  everybody why, and everybody's like, why would you say something like that?
• 28:11
  And I said, well, she.
• 28:12
  Likes kids and she's probably gonna eat some kids while she's here.
• 28:15
  I'm, I didn't know.
• 28:17
  So, she took the, uh, the mansion of the, uh, secretary of, uh, the
• 28:24
  country and some kids showed up.
• 28:27
  So one of the guys that was in the detail was there, uh, when the kids
• 28:31
  showed up in a car, they went up into the, the house and they never returned.
• 28:36
  And he said, he came up to me later the next day, and he's like, you were right.
• 28:40
  And he never did another contract ever again.
• 28:42
  He was out.
• 28:43
  Boom.
• 28:44
  But yeah, she's, she's horrific.
• 28:45
  Yeah.
• 28:48
  She definitely was horrific for sure.
• 28:50
  But you, there's another part that a lot of people don't talk about her, and
• 28:54
  that is she's very ritually ceremonial dedicated to Satan and to all the gods
• 29:02
  and goddess demons, you know, from ancient Egypt and, Greece and Babylonian, all the,
• 29:06
  they all worship that at the rituals, but she's very much a true dedicated satanist
• 29:13
  and what they believe in and the rituals.
• 29:16
  She's very much involved in all that.
• 29:18
  Hmm.
• 29:19
  And you, you have said, uh, that, uh, most of the Congress and Senate
• 29:22
  and so forth, probably a lot, most of the presidents, uh, throughout time
• 29:26
  are, you know, involved in this too.
• 29:28
  There's, there's no separation Republican Democrats.
• 29:31
  They're all part of Illuminati, you know.
• 29:33
  Mm-hmm.
• 29:34
  Lucifer type of stuff.
• 29:36
  Right.
• 29:37
  Wow.
• 29:38
  Wow.
• 29:38
  I mean, that's all I really knew.
• 29:39
  Like I wasn't really around celebrities.
• 29:42
  The last time I ever saw Hillary Beyonce and, um, whatever his, her husband's
• 29:49
  name is, uh, he was there and there was a few but for the most part, I
• 29:53
  just always was around politicians and, and governmental officials.
• 29:58
  Wow.
• 29:59
  And, uh, so military, so Truman, you talked about Truman and, uh,
• 30:04
  you've talked about, uh, you know, president not so much the celebrities
• 30:08
  not so much, uh, business types.
• 30:10
  So mostly political, it sounds like military, any, uh, military activity.
• 30:15
  We kind of said that, talked about that earlier.
• 30:18
  Again, the last time that all this stuff took place general Millie.
• 30:23
  Raped me.
• 30:24
  Wow.
• 30:25
  And you have to realize we're survivors trying to survive.
• 30:29
  Whatever's happened.
• 30:30
  I mean, we don't know everybody's names, but there's a ton of military, there's a
• 30:34
  ton of politicians, there's a ton of, you know, people we don't know their names.
• 30:38
  We're kids, you know, I mean, some we know, but all the people we've been
• 30:43
  given to we don't know their names, but they're high up or they wouldn't
• 30:47
  ever be given that, that appointment to, I mean, okay, so everything's
• 30:51
  under the military base, right?
• 30:54
  That's where all the programming is done.
• 30:56
  Mm-hmm.
• 30:56
  And I, okay, so there's a place in, I ca uh, I don't know of every military
• 31:02
  base has this, but they had about a hundred rooms and they were set up with
• 31:06
  like a really nice bedroom and whoever it was some, you know, official of
• 31:12
  something very, you know, needed to hide.
• 31:14
  He was doing this would be be given a girl or whoever into the room.
• 31:20
  Okay.
• 31:20
  So it's like a bedroom.
• 31:21
  It's like really nice.
• 31:22
  And I remember this one guy he, I don't know who he was, but the military.
• 31:28
  He had a I'm sorry, I laugh at some of this.
• 31:31
  I've been dealing with all this crap, so I, it doesn't bother me anymore.
• 31:34
  Right.
• 31:34
  So, but anyway, he wanted to, he wanted all the room and him and
• 31:39
  me and the guard at the door to dress up as a not Egyptian, Greek.
• 31:45
  Greek.
• 31:46
  And they put my hair up in this Greek, you know, really nice comes in.
• 31:50
  He was nice.
• 31:51
  He's gonna do everything he's gonna do sexually, but he didn't
• 31:54
  hurt me and that's all he wanted.
• 31:56
  He wanted the play, the role play.
• 31:57
  They brought in dinner.
• 31:59
  Okay?
• 32:00
  They, they created the fantasy for him.
• 32:04
  He, I don't know what he did.
• 32:07
  I know he had to give them money because he started to give them money at the door.
• 32:11
  And it was a military guard, but they, he, they made him dress up too.
• 32:15
  And anyway, and when it was done, he left.
• 32:18
  That's the kind of craziness.
• 32:20
  So it's the same, I mean, it's prostitution, right?
• 32:24
  Yeah.
• 32:24
  It sounds like, uh, you know,
• 32:25
  crowd trafficking, whatever.
• 32:27
  Oh, for the elite?
• 32:28
  Yeah.
• 32:29
  If you, you know, I don't like to call 'em elite, but, uh, you know, that's we
• 32:32
  look at them as the upper percentage.
• 32:34
  So, uh, now you've talked about how.
• 32:38
  Love you know, overcomes that, that fear, that control.
• 32:43
  Uh, tell us a little bit about that.
• 32:46
  I'm more or less kick her ass than love.
• 32:48
  I know Kathy's really good about the love thing.
• 32:50
  She's, but I we're like, no, I don't think so.
• 32:56
  Um, I'm more that you can overcome everything they did to you, but
• 33:02
  you have to know what they did.
• 33:03
  Right.
• 33:04
  And that's why a lot of basically survivors don't get free because
• 33:07
  they don't understand the de degree of what they have done.
• 33:11
  Because a lot of them just focus on Disney movies and Disney and, you
• 33:15
  know, like the Castle or Labyrinth or those kind of programming.
• 33:19
  That's what I call the front programming.
• 33:21
  It's like what Fritz Spring Meyer talks about.
• 33:24
  That's the front.
• 33:26
  But the real programming that keeps you programmed and not ever get
• 33:29
  free is the spiritual programming.
• 33:32
  And this is based on their luciferian beliefs for their Luciferian kingdom.
• 33:37
  So the thing that I want you guys to understand is when I say
• 33:41
  Illuminati, Freemason, Druids, fertility cults, they all do their
• 33:46
  thing, but they work together as one.
• 33:49
  And all of it is based on following Satan.
• 33:52
  All of it.
• 33:53
  This is all spiritual based.
• 33:55
  Even Hillary, her foundation was Luciferian.
• 34:00
  It was a spiritual base of worship of Satan and that what do you
• 34:05
  know, what they get from it?
• 34:07
  They call, okay, so they have the ritual, they call in, they, they have the kids.
• 34:13
  So they start doing their sacrifice, and they do that.
• 34:15
  Why are they doing that?
• 34:16
  Because the demons are requiring a sacrifice.
• 34:19
  If they want forbidden knowledge and power, this is what they want.
• 34:25
  Power and forbidden knowledge.
• 34:28
  And this goes back into the neum that's in the, the Bible where the
• 34:32
  sons of God, they were, uh, they came to earth and taught man things.
• 34:36
  They shouldn't.
• 34:37
  It's all based on that because they, they taught, and if you read Enoch,
• 34:42
  I just read it and I'm flabbergasted how much information, but it's
• 34:46
  chapter one, like three through seven.
• 34:48
  It's about fallen angels and these, there were two, it says there were 200 in
• 34:54
  heaven that fell, but they didn't, these are not angels that fell with Lucifer.
• 35:00
  That were thrown out of heaven.
• 35:01
  They weren't thrown out of heaven.
• 35:02
  They followed God, but they sinned against God and created the giant, right?
• 35:08
  But in Enoch it says they are evil spirits.
• 35:11
  And they came and taught man enchantments how to do certain
• 35:16
  things they shouldn't be doing.
• 35:17
  And they gave all this knowledge.
• 35:19
  And this is kind of what the Druids are based on too, is ancient knowledge that
• 35:24
  nobody's supposed to have, but they're be, they're being given this ancient
• 35:28
  knowledge through these, these demons.
• 35:31
  And I can get into a whole story of that.
• 35:33
  But in our society, fallen angels are after each one of us.
• 35:39
  If you have big problems in your life, I promise you, you have
• 35:41
  fallen angel attached to you.
• 35:43
  And if you're a survivor, you have a lot of fallen angels attached to you
• 35:47
  because you are programmed with them.
• 35:50
  That's why if you don't face the luciferian.
• 35:54
  Lucifer and Kingdom that was put in you starting in the womb, you cannot get
• 35:58
  free because the demons won't let you.
• 36:01
  And that's how I started learning all this because, um, what
• 36:06
  happened is I thought I got free.
• 36:09
  I thought, I had a million memories and I hired this this guy who was a specialist
• 36:15
  that worked with survivors and he, and we removed all the Disney and all
• 36:20
  this stuff, and I thought it was free.
• 36:22
  I doing all these holistic modalities, I worked on all the memories
• 36:26
  and released all the pain of it.
• 36:28
  I mean, I was doing good.
• 36:29
  I ha I was happy as heck.
• 36:31
  Uh, this is the best time in my life.
• 36:33
  Wow.
• 36:33
  So, and then you mentioned Disney.
• 36:35
  So is there Disney programming literally.
• 36:39
  Yes.
• 36:40
  Wow.
• 36:40
  Are you kidding?
• 36:42
  My, you,
• 36:43
  you, I know.
• 36:44
  I'm like, Ian, are you so naive?
• 36:47
  But you look at all of, you know, over time, I, I've heard of people talking
• 36:50
  about how there's submarines that go into Disney World and pick kids up and
• 36:53
  transport 'em all kind of crazy stuff.
• 36:55
  You know, I've seen a lot of stuff.
• 36:56
  You look at the movies, the old movies, and they have, uh, pH
• 36:59
  symbols in 'em, but you never notice it while you're watching it.
• 37:02
  So they're programming, like you're talking about.
• 37:04
  Now
• 37:05
  they program with they like Sleeping Beauty, Cinderella as
• 37:09
  Alice in Wonderland, wizard of Oz.
• 37:11
  Those are the, the main ones.
• 37:12
  But they've even, I have even heard that they do, uh, programming with freeze.
• 37:17
  Is that the new one?
• 37:18
  Uh, frozen?
• 37:19
  No, frozen, sorry.
• 37:20
  Frozen.
• 37:21
  Yeah.
• 37:21
  So they can take any cartoon because that's the purposes as
• 37:25
  a child can understand better with cartoon and fantasy, right?
• 37:30
  So when they wanna do the programming they use a way a child
• 37:33
  can understand and, and so those
• 37:35
  subliminal information in there, that's basically doing
• 37:37
  programming in those movies.
• 37:40
  Yes.
• 37:41
  But they're also doing torture and drugs and saying words to them.
• 37:45
  And they, this, the Disney programming is done between two and three.
• 37:49
  They start that, they also start the programming of the soldier, the New World
• 37:53
  Order Soldier, about two or three as well, and the Monarch programming at two
• 37:58
  or three, and they just keep going up.
• 38:00
  The thing that makes me the most angry is over time when I, I started
• 38:04
  having to get sexual programming excuse me, sexual training to
• 38:10
  do whatever they wanted, right?
• 38:12
  Sexually.
• 38:13
  And so you, well, I'll say I had several people come in and show me
• 38:19
  different sexual things so that I could do whatever somebody would.
• 38:26
  You know, I'm, you know, I'm a kid, first of all.
• 38:29
  Yeah.
• 38:29
  Most adults would not even do what they trained us to do.
• 38:33
  So that start off right at the bat too, that's all this stuff is right
• 38:38
  off the bat when the mind is malleable.
• 38:40
  Yeah.
• 38:41
  And that, and that's because, uh, children, you know, listen
• 38:44
  to the adults or talk to listen.
• 38:45
  Adults don't question and so forth.
• 38:48
  So it's easier to do the children, you know, adults, we, we'd be like, bullshit.
• 38:52
  It's like, uh, but, uh, kids don't have that escape, you know?
• 38:57
  They don't have that power to say, know.
• 38:59
  And that's probably why they do that.
• 39:01
  And, you know, they have, they're masters.
• 39:04
  They're masters at you know, mind control, manipulation and so forth.
• 39:07
  Now, I, I wanna show, I wanna show one of your, uh, books and we'll kind of
• 39:11
  like, can I share this real piece, this quick piece?
• 39:13
  Sure.
• 39:13
  Um, they're actually masters at, uh, taking a child to the point that
• 39:18
  they know they will split their mind.
• 39:21
  And make a new compartment.
• 39:22
  They're experts at that and near death experience.
• 39:26
  Wow.
• 39:26
  Uh, so they know how far they can take a person that they do die, but
• 39:30
  they know how they can bring 'em back.
• 39:32
  And that's something every survivor goes through as well.
• 39:35
  Yeah.
• 39:35
  I was reading about this one woman that was, uh, trafficked and they would, her
• 39:40
  father, who was like a genius I think in the space program and everything,
• 39:44
  but they had gotten he and his wife, his, their, her, uh, parents, uh, to
• 39:50
  bring her to, uh, Disney World and drop her off after hours, like two or
• 39:56
  three o'clock in, in, in the morning.
• 39:58
  Uh, and they, they took her on the jungle, you know, where they had the, the boat.
• 40:01
  And they tied her up and they threw her off and she almost drowned.
• 40:06
  And they pull her in and then they talk to her and tell her stuff, and
• 40:10
  then they do it over and over again.
• 40:12
  Uh, so traumatizing her, taking her right to the point where she's gonna die, like
• 40:15
  you're talking about, and bring her back.
• 40:17
  Wow.
• 40:17
  They do it a lot to a, uh, each survivor.
• 40:20
  Really?
• 40:21
  Wow.
• 40:21
  So it's kind of a normal thing.
• 40:23
  Uh, you have three books, puzzle pieces to the gal, mind Control and
• 40:27
  Slavery, putting it all together for Peace, healing, and Freedom.
• 40:31
  This is your first book.
• 40:32
  Now you talking it's
• 40:33
  for general it's for, you know, any public, anybody in the public could read
• 40:37
  it and just understand general stuff.
• 40:40
  I don't go into my story too much in any of the books 'cause it's more information
• 40:45
  written to help people get free.
• 40:47
  But this one's more general.
• 40:49
  I think anybody can read it.
• 40:51
  The other two books get very heavy and my third book is the heaviest.
• 40:55
  So.
• 40:57
  Good.
• 40:58
  So first paragraph.
• 41:00
  If you've ever wondered about what governments, military, kings
• 41:03
  and queens, deep state, cabal, secret society, satanic, cults,
• 41:06
  witchcraft, and mind control have in common, this book explains 'em all.
• 41:10
  Now, I, I have this book, um, that's your website.
• 41:13
  I have this book.
• 41:14
  Let me see if I can find it.
• 41:17
  I'm gonna have to exit out and come back.
• 41:21
  So, I mean, all the different stuff you cover is just mind boggling.
• 41:26
  Uh, tree of Life, tree of Death.
• 41:30
  Uh, my wife has been telling me about the tree of death.
• 41:32
  So, uh, you know what there's two.
• 41:34
  So I've only heard about the Tree of Death.
• 41:37
  Yes.
• 41:38
  So as you know, uh, Satan steals everything from Jesus.
• 41:42
  So, and God.
• 41:43
  So the Tree of life is a very important sacred thing to God, right?
• 41:48
  It's eternal life with him.
• 41:49
  His love for you.
• 41:51
  That's what its representation is.
• 41:53
  Soan needed to have something for him.
• 41:56
  And so that's called the Tree of Death, and that's in the inverted Kabbalah.
• 42:00
  Uh, it's based on the inverted Kabbalah.
• 42:03
  And, um, that's what's the Luciferian Kingdom inside of every
• 42:07
  survivor that they do not know.
• 42:09
  And that's what God showed.
• 42:10
  God showed me after some very traumatic things happen as an later adult.
• 42:15
  He started showing me this, that this is why they could call me back because
• 42:20
  because I still had this inside of me.
• 42:22
  And, um, the Tree of Death, everything in the programming is based on it.
• 42:28
  Wow.
• 42:28
  And
• 42:29
  it's spiritual,
• 42:30
  everything.
• 42:30
  Now I've had this one woman, uh, Jesse Sabo on, and she said that
• 42:34
  she was prepped to be a, uh, a wife or, you know, a mother of darkness.
• 42:41
  Mother of darkness, okay.
• 42:42
  So, uh, Satan was supposedly gonna come, or Lucifer was gonna
• 42:45
  come and have sex with her.
• 42:48
  Now, you said that Lucifer cannot have children.
• 42:50
  Is that correct?
• 42:54
  He can't have children, but there is a thing going with Nephilim and Survivors,
• 42:59
  what they have been able to create.
• 43:02
  To do with them.
• 43:03
  Okay.
• 43:03
  And that's a whole nother probably podcaster story.
• 43:06
  But my third book is based on working with 20 Mothers of Darkness.
• 43:10
  And it, the third book is more working with clients of the top of the Illuminati,
• 43:16
  but they're mothers of darkness.
• 43:18
  One man, I worked with him a little bit, that was a father of darkness,
• 43:21
  and he says, father of death though.
• 43:24
  And I talk a lot of the deep, deep, oh my gosh, deep programming of the Druids.
• 43:29
  I think Druids have affected humanity, period.
• 43:33
  But anyway, so I do speak a lot about the inverted alah in all the books.
• 43:38
  So, because that's what they use, that's what they believe.
• 43:42
  Like they, that's the Freemasons, the Illuminati, they all
• 43:46
  believe in this Inver Kabbalah.
• 43:49
  So, uh, you know, I've had a Illuminati guy that was, uh.
• 43:55
  Uh, had gone in and had looked at, you know, all, all the things
• 44:00
  that they did as Illuminati stuff.
• 44:02
  He was illuminati for a while and then he got out.
• 44:05
  He's basically barely survived because of course they tried
• 44:08
  to kill him so many times.
• 44:10
  So, um, what is it about the Illuminati and the Masons?
• 44:16
  Is there a separation?
• 44:17
  They're all the same.
• 44:19
  Well, basically they kind of are all the same people, the Freemasons, when
• 44:23
  you get up that high, you're, you're worshiping at the highest levels of
• 44:27
  evil and the Druids, they're, okay.
• 44:31
  So let's just, let's take a military, a Mason military person, and they're
• 44:35
  doing the MK alter programming, but they belong to the Freemasons and
• 44:39
  they also belong to the Druids, and they also belong to the Illuminati.
• 44:43
  For me, working with so many survivors, they all believe in the same thing.
• 44:48
  They work together.
• 44:49
  Druids do a little bit things differently.
• 44:52
  They carry ancient knowledge that they don't write down.
• 44:55
  So it's passed through to kings sexually.
• 44:59
  They're the carriers of ancient knowledge, which the ancient knowledge is from
• 45:03
  the demons the highest authority.
• 45:06
  Fallen Angels, so I know I'm sharing a lot, but Fallen Angels have
• 45:11
  different authorities, so they're not all the same, and so they're
• 45:14
  worshiping the highest of evil.
• 45:17
  That exists.
• 45:18
  And
• 45:22
  anyway, so that's kind of the higher up you go the more evil you're worshiping.
• 45:28
  Wow.
• 45:29
  So, uh, you know, someone like, uh, Hillary and Bill and name, name some
• 45:33
  other people that would be, uh, I guess, uh, I names of people that,
• 45:38
  well, Beyonce's a mother of darkness and Wow.
• 45:41
  Uh, I would imagine Hillary was, and I would imagine Pelosi is, I
• 45:46
  imagine quite a few of them are.
• 45:49
  Mothers in darkness.
• 45:50
  Sure.
• 45:50
  But on the other hand, you know, like I explained in my book, I did tell what
• 45:55
  they can do and what they've been trained since in the womb, not four years old,
• 45:59
  like Jesse said, that's not true because every survivor is trained in the womb.
• 46:03
  Oh wow.
• 46:04
  But you have to understand that if you're a mother of darkness, this
• 46:08
  is somebody they have chosen in bloodline to, to carry for them because
• 46:13
  they can handle it because of their DNA, the highest levels of evil.
• 46:19
  And that's what they're gonna, they're gonna be required to carry
• 46:23
  this evil and wield it and manage it.
• 46:26
  And they can.
• 46:28
  And I know that's beyond most people's imagination and I understand that.
• 46:32
  But working with them, I learned a lot a I great deal.
• 46:36
  And so that's in my book three about what I learned.
• 46:39
  But on the other hand, you have to understand that a mother
• 46:42
  of darkness is also an altar.
• 46:44
  It's something they created.
• 46:46
  It's not the true person.
• 46:48
  And the thing that I found about Mothers of Darkness, their true self, at least
• 46:52
  the ones came to see me, not everybody.
• 46:55
  They had a very strong relationship with God.
• 46:58
  So you see how a person can be so divided because of what they did.
• 47:05
  I don't know.
• 47:05
  I, I feel like God won't give Satan a whole person like their whole mind.
• 47:11
  But he did get that Satan did get half and he took that half and made a
• 47:17
  million com compartmental compartments.
• 47:20
  You know, because an average, uh, survivor has at least a thousand
• 47:24
  or so compartments of that.
• 47:27
  They've had to split their mind so many times just to live.
• 47:32
  And when survivors say, you know, like if a professional says you
• 47:36
  know, that's an illness to have DID or anything like that's not true.
• 47:41
  It's not a mental illness.
• 47:42
  It's a survival technique.
• 47:44
  And if the child didn't learn how to split their mind, they wouldn't live.
• 47:49
  And anybody that lived learned how to split their mind.
• 47:52
  'cause there's no way a child could do the sexual things that,
• 47:56
  or withstand the physical things.
• 47:59
  There's no way, unless they split their mind.
• 48:01
  To bear it up.
• 48:04
  So,
• 48:05
  so when, uh, when you look at, uh, the Jeffrey Epstein stuff, and we are
• 48:10
  having, uh, a lot of Europeans, prince, Andrew, and you know, other people,
• 48:15
  it seemed like every day someone in Europe is getting, being arrested in
• 48:18
  charged, but no one in the US yet.
• 48:21
  Right.
• 48:21
  Why do you
• 48:22
  think
• 48:22
  that's
• 48:23
  Because criminals don't arrest criminals.
• 48:27
  That's what we're up against.
• 48:29
  There's no one to do the, the right deed.
• 48:31
  Huh?
• 48:31
  There's no one that's the right and if there is a few there, they need a
• 48:35
  whole bunch to stick together like the Democrats do, because otherwise they're
• 48:40
  afraid, you know, they all threat.
• 48:41
  They get threatened.
• 48:42
  If you tell anybody, do anything, you're, we're gonna come out
• 48:45
  to your family or whatever.
• 48:47
  So I don't think, I don't, I think it has to be military, but
• 48:51
  I don't know if that's possible.
• 48:53
  That's gonna have to do that.
• 48:54
  You and I both know the military's crept it as well.
• 48:57
  Uh, you just talked about it with Millie.
• 49:00
  And then, uh, you know, I've been pointing it out to a lot of people.
• 49:03
  A lot of people have, uh, you know, they have these ideas
• 49:05
  that, if someone's a, a military officer, they're like, sacrosanct.
• 49:09
  They're like, perfect.
• 49:10
  I'm like, hardly any of 'em are, from my experience.
• 49:14
  I mean, I, I respect men and women who are trying to go absolutely.
• 49:17
  You know, for their country.
• 49:19
  I respect that and I really don't have resentment towards them at all.
• 49:22
  I have I don't even think I have anything like that anymore,
• 49:25
  but the military generals.
• 49:27
  Those are the ones, uh, that many are corrupt.
• 49:30
  The admirals.
• 49:31
  Yeah.
• 49:31
  Yep.
• 49:32
  Yeah.
• 49:33
  So, uh, so let's, let's shift over a little bit.
• 49:35
  And I, I have worked with, uh, really, really good officers, so
• 49:38
  I'm not saying they're all corrupt.
• 49:40
  Yeah.
• 49:40
  And I, but only maybe a handful really at the very top, unfortunately.
• 49:45
  So we have the Charlie Kirk shooting.
• 49:48
  I said that is, that was a whole scam.
• 49:51
  Yeah.
• 49:51
  There's no way he could have been shot in the neck like he was with
• 49:54
  that caliber bullet and all kinds of anomalies, inconsistencies, and so forth.
• 50:00
  And then we have this crazy thing with this Erica, uh, Kurt.
• 50:04
  What, what is going on with that?
• 50:06
  What are your thoughts?
• 50:07
  Well, immediately I thought CIA and Mossad were involved in it immediately,
• 50:13
  but because CIA is always involved in it, I know everything in, in whatever.
• 50:17
  And then I do think Erica Kirk is a fake.
• 50:20
  I don't know what to agree that means, but it seems like she may
• 50:25
  also be in the M KRA program.
• 50:27
  Or could be, uh, you know, but she's definitely got CIA affiliation,
• 50:33
  with doing things for them.
• 50:35
  So, and their mom works for the government, so that's a red flag for me.
• 50:40
  Because she was, she could be put in the MK Ultra, who knows?
• 50:44
  I don't know.
• 50:45
  But she's not what she is professing to be.
• 50:49
  Yeah.
• 50:50
  And you know, you don't, we don't know everybody that's, you
• 50:53
  know, you and I or anyone really.
• 50:55
  We can do is like look at, patterns and you're, you're an expert
• 51:00
  looking at pattern obviously.
• 51:01
  'Cause you were subjected to a lot of this on a, on a level that
• 51:04
  many of us can't even comprehend.
• 51:06
  Your books are, are giving us so much insight.
• 51:08
  I'm, I'm like, looking at your information, it's like, wow that's, we
• 51:12
  do a, like a whole course on, uh, your work, you know, uh, of college course.
• 51:17
  It'd be fantastic.
• 51:18
  What do you think about that?
• 51:19
  You know, uh, actually have, I know you do training and so forth and you work
• 51:23
  with people, but, uh, an actual course.
• 51:26
  Do you have anything like that?
• 51:27
  Yeah, I've been training professionals that it can be from any background,
• 51:31
  like if it, they don't have to be a therapist because most, some therapists
• 51:34
  that, you know, they probably don't wanna be doing it anyway.
• 51:37
  But I do training and I, to be fair, I feel like God wrote the first book.
• 51:43
  I was just a secretary.
• 51:44
  The second one, he, I mean, he led me through all of it, but it was different.
• 51:49
  The second one was, uh, it was to give information to get survivors
• 51:53
  free, but the third one really goes into this is it, I'm showing you
• 51:59
  three different ways to do this.
• 52:01
  This is what they did.
• 52:03
  And I'm, and each book builds on each other the information.
• 52:06
  'cause I wrote it one, two, and three.
• 52:08
  So I didn't really spend time writing more on the, the next
• 52:11
  one, uh, of the same information.
• 52:14
  So in four years, God gave me over 1600 pages.
• 52:21
  Of information.
• 52:22
  And my, my, I have a tiny bit of my story in it, but I'm doing
• 52:27
  something about that piece right now.
• 52:29
  I always felt you know, I, my story's important, but for me, for whatever
• 52:34
  reason, God was wanting me to get out information because the problem is, is
• 52:40
  that we, the survivors don't get free.
• 52:43
  And that was my problem.
• 52:45
  Nobody helped us.
• 52:46
  Nobody knew how to help us, nowhere to go, so alone.
• 52:50
  And so I made my whole life like figuring out how to get the information
• 52:55
  and God showed me one step at a time.
• 52:57
  But the best thing, I know we probably have to go here, but, how
• 53:02
  really the Tree of Death came about and the New World Order Soldier
• 53:06
  came about in actually, Atlantis is through a very difficult, hard thing.
• 53:13
  And I was doing great.
• 53:15
  I thought I was free.
• 53:16
  I had tons of memories.
• 53:18
  Been doing this for years.
• 53:19
  I was seeing clients, I was traveling around the world.
• 53:21
  I really was happy.
• 53:22
  My family, my relationships were good.
• 53:25
  All these holistic modalities did a lot of healing for me.
• 53:29
  And then something happened and I was feeling like, oh
• 53:32
  my gosh, this cannot be true.
• 53:36
  I thought, oh my gosh, something's happened to me.
• 53:39
  Something has happened.
• 53:40
  I, I, I know it.
• 53:41
  And basically what had happened is in 2015 when Hillary was supposed to be the
• 53:47
  president, they called back all of her, whoever, I don't know how many people
• 53:52
  they called back, but they called me back.
• 53:54
  And they called back quite a few people that were at that level connected
• 53:58
  to her and whatever, whoever else.
• 54:00
  But anyway, this is in 2015 and I'm like, what the hell?
• 54:05
  I've done all this stuff for all these years and I'm being called back.
• 54:09
  Are you fing kidding me?
• 54:10
  I mean, it was very hard for me because it took me two years to figure it out.
• 54:14
  But anyway, I was called back.
• 54:16
  They were, they reprogrammed for the new world order.
• 54:20
  They were doing an update because see all my life that it, I, it
• 54:24
  was, uh, hidden to be dormant.
• 54:28
  It was never to come forward until the time of the new world order.
• 54:32
  But all of the survivors, we've been trained in that the soldier.
• 54:36
  So we had a new world order soldier that would be called up.
• 54:38
  So what they were doing was updating it of what they wanted.
• 54:42
  And this is in 2015.
• 54:44
  Most of what they wanted has already happened right now of
• 54:47
  what they updated with me with.
• 54:49
  It's in my books.
• 54:50
  I I was pretty.
• 54:52
  Clear on all that.
• 54:54
  Long story short, this is the last time I ever saw Hillary.
• 54:58
  This is the, the, they had, so they did all this updated programming an
• 55:02
  I don't think I ever saw him before, but Anthony Fauci did the programming.
• 55:07
  He didn't hurt me, he didn't do any of that.
• 55:10
  But he came in does the programming, and this goes on for about four days.
• 55:16
  And then they're gonna do three days of ritual.
• 55:19
  And this is before the election, whatever the moon was.
• 55:23
  And so three days, they're doing this as a Las Vegas base.
• 55:27
  And, um, everybody that you could think of around the world is there.
• 55:35
  A lot of the politicians like Liz Cheney, Pelosi, of course the Clintons,
• 55:40
  the Bidens, George Soros, Obama that's where Beyonce anybody you could think
• 55:46
  of that had any power whatsoever was there for this because they were sure
• 55:51
  she was taking the presidency over.
• 55:53
  Wow.
• 55:54
  And that's where she went crazy.
• 55:56
  Uh, she, she had eat, I mean, she had done too much whatever.
• 56:01
  And so, anyway, that at that point I knew that something bad had
• 56:08
  happened and it took me a couple years and I'm like, God, this is.
• 56:12
  Uh, well, I said a few cuss words, but that this is impossible.
• 56:16
  I mean, this is impossible.
• 56:18
  How, how can this happen to me?
• 56:20
  And he showed me, and that's where this all began step by step.
• 56:24
  He literally was my teacher and he showed me the Kabbalah.
• 56:27
  He said they called you back under the New World Order Soldier, but
• 56:31
  you have the Kabbalah Tree of Death.
• 56:33
  He taught me everything about the Kabbalah.
• 56:35
  I didn't know shit.
• 56:37
  I knew unc.
• 56:38
  I mean, at an unconscious level I did, you know, of course.
• 56:41
  But at a conscious level, SUBC, you know, my logical side, I
• 56:45
  didn't know anything about it.
• 56:46
  So he taught me step by step about this and he told me to research and he showed
• 56:51
  me so much, and then, okay, God, if what you're saying is true, I'm gonna prove it.
• 56:57
  So I ended up working with over, not planning on it.
• 57:00
  I just ended up working with over a hundred survivors
• 57:03
  in the next several years.
• 57:05
  And guess what?
• 57:06
  Every survivor had the Tree of Death in the New World Order
• 57:09
  Soldier and the Atlantis.
• 57:11
  And guess what?
• 57:12
  That was all over the world.
• 57:14
  They were every age, they were every culture, they were from every country.
• 57:19
  All of us have the same programming.
• 57:22
  That's the big secret.
• 57:24
  How many do you think have been programmed or in the.
• 57:26
  The new world order system.
• 57:29
  Oh, every survivor is programmed with the New World order soldier.
• 57:34
  That's without a doubt.
• 57:35
  All of us have that, that we were created.
• 57:39
  I mean this is a long story, but Rothchild, is it Rothchild America?
• 57:42
  I always get this.
• 57:43
  Or is it Rockefeller?
• 57:43
  Uh,
• 57:44
  Rockefeller America and Rothchild in Europe.
• 57:46
  Yeah.
• 57:46
  Okay.
• 57:46
  Rockefeller created the CIAI know Truman did it.
• 57:51
  But anyway, they wanted the CIA to create mind control slaves
• 57:56
  to create an army for them.
• 57:57
  Yeah.
• 57:58
  So survivors, the number one thing that they have inside them is a soldier.
• 58:04
  Now, I do believe the super soldiers might have a lot more programming
• 58:09
  in that area 'cause they were designed for that or picked for that.
• 58:13
  But, uh, that this still, we still have the new world order.
• 58:16
  Like if this happens, you have to do this.
• 58:19
  Like we all have our jobs.
• 58:21
  So anyway, that, that was very disturbing and it took a while.
• 58:26
  I mean, it did.
• 58:27
  And when I started saying this publicly, I had some of the highest Illuminati
• 58:33
  people spiritually come after me to kill me, and they almost did.
• 58:38
  And at the end of the, this la my second book, and then my husband died,
• 58:43
  they got to him in December of 24.
• 58:47
  And then, yeah.
• 58:48
  I mean, we, we've, we have suffered greatly for these books.
• 58:53
  So
• 58:55
  yeah, my, I think my son, uh, was, well, I don't think I, I know
• 58:59
  that he was, uh, targeted and that didn't work out, unfortunately.
• 59:02
  Good for him.
• 59:03
  So, uh, there's a lot of people like us that, that get involved in
• 59:07
  these programs, uh, help people.
• 59:08
  And, uh, we get targeted pretty severely.
• 59:11
  So, uh, if people wanna reach you, laura j warley.com
• 59:17
  Yep.
• 59:17
  Excellent.
• 59:18
  I'm on social media everywhere.
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  Laura Worley.
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  Laura j Worley.
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  So you can find me.
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  Very good.
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  Yeah.
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  Wow.
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  Just, uh, you're the amount of in-depth information that you have is staggering.
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  It's how, so obviously I've attacked you, but you know, I, like I was
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  talking about Jesse sbo, uh, it's almost like they allow you to, uh,
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  survive because they put so much time, effort, money, and so forth in you.
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  Maybe they feel that you're gonna turn back.
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  What are you, what are your thoughts?
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  I think they think you're never gonna get free.
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  And they're right.
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  Most people never get free.
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  Even like Michael, a lot of people have started waking up.
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  In the last five years of survivors.
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  Yeah.
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  And I'm grateful for that.
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  But we have a long way to go because even that doesn't fully scare them
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  because they know to get totally free.
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  There's a lot of work involved and most survivors don't wanna do it.
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  They just believe, if you say enough prayers, God will set you free.
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  I've been told that so many times, and, and that's not true.
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  'cause I, I prayed so much and I wanted God to take this from me,
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  but he didn't, but he helped me.
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  He helped me find answers to get free.
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  And so that's what I hope survivors can hear, that it's very important.
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  I I say that all the time.
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  You can wait for God to come help you and you're gonna continue to wait.
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  God will give you insights and will give you direction and will put
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  people on your path to help you.
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  But, uh, you have to get involved.
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  Yes.
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  Obviously you've done that on a massive level, and like you're talking
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  about, there's people that are, mind control that could break free, but
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  it takes work and most people just like, just stay mind controlled.
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  They, there's, it's crazy how it works.
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  We got a lot of people out there billions of people that
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  are mind controlled right now.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  And, uh, we're, it's on it's sometimes it seems like, uh,
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  we're not making much headway.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  And it does but you're like me.
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  They have to be completely defeated because they're gonna keep coming
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  at us and coming at us until they're all done, until they're all defeated.
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  And that means we have to take down the whole government.
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  'cause there's no way it can be saved.
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  It is.
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  We the people, it's gonna save us the people.
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  Yeah.
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  And as I'm, I'm not trying to be offensive or anything, but it, as
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  long as the CIA is allowed to run, or the Pentagon or the DARPA or the FBI,
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  they have endless amounts of money, so they will never stop coming at us.
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  Never.
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  Thank you.
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  I've been saying the same thing.
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  It's good to hear from another, another person, especially with your background.
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  So, uh, yeah.
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  Thanks.
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  Thanks so much, uh, Laura, and, uh, look forward to, uh, having
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  you on a sh on some shows again.
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  Wow.
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  You have so much information.
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  Anytime you, I
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  know, I dunno if I overwhelm people,
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  we'll have you on, if there's something, uh, that's like, you see something that's
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  really you'd like to share some insights.
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  So I'd love to have you on again.
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  So, uh, thanks so much for coming on and I know everybody the chat
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  was blowing up so this is gonna get out more wide, so thanks so much.
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  Thank you.
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  Thanks Michael.
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  Thanks.