Latest / Safe As Podcast / E43: How 'no blame' can potentially subvert learning and improvement
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- 0:06What if no blame logics is short circuiting effective
- 0:09accountability? Let's find out.
- 0:13Good day everyone. I'm Ben Hutchinson and This is
- 0:15Safe as a podcast dedicated to the thrifty analysis of safety,
- 0:20risk and performance research. Visit safetyinsights.org for
- 0:24more research. Today's study is from Share it
- 0:27ET L 2023, titled The Unintended Consequences of No Blame
- 0:32Ideology for Incident investigation in the US
- 0:35Construction Industry in Safety Science.
- 0:39In this study, the transcripts of 34 experimentally simulated
- 0:44incident investigation interviews from safety experts
- 0:47were evaluated, simply exploring how safety experts made sense of
- 0:52simulated accidents and particularly interested in how
- 0:56the safety experts described and allocated blame.
- 1:00Providing background from the research, they note that
- 1:03Conklin's neat mantra that blame fixes nothing is so prominent in
- 1:07safety discussions across North America that is arguably now
- 1:12simply part of the vernacular. Prior work from the UK found
- 1:16that construction workers fully expect blame and punishment as
- 1:19part of site safety. For some, they see it as a
- 1:23necessary counter to their need, and in some cases choice to bend
- 1:27and flex site rules in order to get the job done.
- 1:31Other workers argue that a unidimensional focus on creating
- 1:34a no blame environment carries its own safety risks.
- 1:38Moreover, others have argued that systemic safety's
- 1:42absolution of individual performance and accountability
- 1:46meant workers were effectively written out of the safety story,
- 1:50which in turn made it impossible to hold them accountable for
- 1:53poor behaviour. Also, the language used in
- 1:56investigations can be relevant as it can shape and influence
- 1:59all parts of the process. Even the order of that
- 2:02information announced presented can influence judgments of
- 2:05culpability. Some firms have shifted to
- 2:08incident evaluations rather than investigations to avoid punitive
- 2:12language associated with criminal investigations.
- 2:15In all, the blame has a dubious history in construction, such to
- 2:19the extent that blame has even been weaponized against workers.
- 2:23So what did they find? A kind of bias was found not a
- 2:27psychological bias, but rather, quoting the paper, a dogmatic
- 2:30adherence to no blame within the investigative process.
- 2:35This dogmatic adherence bias was called new blame and was noted
- 2:39to have detrimentally influenced and shaped investigation
- 2:42interviews. This means that a rigid
- 2:45commitment to no blame actually became a problem itself,
- 2:48changing how investigations were conducted.
- 2:51Quoting the paper you blame renders interviewers reluctant
- 2:55to unpack the people in the process and instead directs
- 2:59focus on things easily blamed without consequence, such as
- 3:04inanimate objects, organisational procedures, or
- 3:06paperwork. In other words, investigators
- 3:10avoid looking closely at what people actually did, preferring
- 3:14to blame things that couldn't argue back, like equipment or
- 3:16paperwork. They argue that without
- 3:19understanding how workers interact within their work or
- 3:23what went wrong this time, learning is inevitably limited.
- 3:27Interestingly, they say, at the most extreme level, new blame
- 3:30may take safety back to acts of God.
- 3:34New blame was often seen as a comment the investigator made to
- 3:37the worker before the questioning commenced.
- 3:39For instance, investigators would start with comments like
- 3:43we're not looking to fix people, we're looking to fix our
- 3:46processes and systems so that you guys on the frontline will
- 3:48be set up for success. In some cases, these preamble
- 3:53statements were presented in a rehearsed manner and with the
- 3:56language of hope clearly evident.
- 3:58That's a direct quote. Interviewers drew clear
- 4:01distinctions between people and processes, emphasising the need
- 4:05to focus on improving processes that support people when people
- 4:09inevitably make mistakes. The researchers note that
- 4:12despite the investigator providing reassurance to the
- 4:14workers, blame was still present.
- 4:17In fact, investigators, in trying to avoid blame, brought
- 4:21blame back into the conversation within the very first sentence.
- 4:25As the authors argue, using this type of blame avoidance language
- 4:28in the preamble statements before the questioning begins
- 4:32has the practical effect of actually placing blame at the
- 4:34very top of the agenda and quoting paper again.
- 4:37It becomes the first thing mentioned, elevating its
- 4:40importance within the situation for both interviewer and
- 4:43interviewee, and that sets the precedent for the rest of the
- 4:46interview. So put simply, by constantly
- 4:49saying no blame, the idea of blame ironically became the main
- 4:53focus right from the start and blame was positioned in the
- 4:57negative frame and associated with punishment.
- 4:59Despite being different activities.
- 5:02They argue that via new blame, blame is centrally positioned
- 5:05throughout the interaction from the very start.
- 5:08However, such early promises of no blame before the
- 5:12investigation has even started shouldn't be made, according to
- 5:15the authors, since it's unknown at this point what appropriate
- 5:18actions will be necessary. Further, early assurances of no
- 5:22blame become both presumptive and pointless, and in cases
- 5:26where disciplinary action is actually warranted according to
- 5:29paper, and these early assurances become just another
- 5:32management lie. Therefore, introducing promises
- 5:36that may have to be broken can damage trust.
- 5:39This highlights that making blanket no blame promises too
- 5:41early can be seen as dishonest. Later on, New blame was found to
- 5:46direct attention to things that could be blamed without
- 5:48immediate consequences for the interviewee, including poor
- 5:52materials or inanimate objects or lack of training, while also
- 5:56avoiding questions around the actions or behaviours of the
- 5:58workers who were directly involved in the event.
- 6:02So here, investigators frequently shortchanged the
- 6:05collection of information around behaviours and individuals,
- 6:09thereby not properly exploring the context of workers and how
- 6:12they fit into the incident. So instead of understanding
- 6:15where people acted as they did, investigators who are so
- 6:18cautious around this idea of blame focused on easy targets
- 6:22like faulty equipment or bad procedures.
- 6:25And while focusing on inanimate objects seemed to be sort of a
- 6:28logical direction to explore, it also provided A relatively
- 6:32comfortable space for inquiry. So blaming the staircase for
- 6:37instance, over an individual that fell.
- 6:39Blaming the staircase seems to be utterly unresponsive to
- 6:42criticisms or blame as opposed to individuals.
- 6:45So it makes blaming the staircase a really comfortable
- 6:47target. Also, potential cues relevant to
- 6:51the investigation surrounding individual behaviour were rather
- 6:55glossed over in preference to factors of the objects or system
- 6:58factors. So you blame directed attention
- 7:01towards the role of procedures and as the author state, the
- 7:06focus in objects and systems provides the blameable faceless
- 7:09organisation. Not all investigators avoided
- 7:13the role of people in the process, so some of them did
- 7:16actually focus around agency. But even in these cases, new
- 7:20blame still had some level of influence.
- 7:23So even when investigators tried to look at human actions, the
- 7:26new blame logic still pushed conclusions towards blaming
- 7:29impersonal organisational issues rather than understanding
- 7:33individual contributions. And this is said to be up to
- 7:36limit learning since organisations are still made up
- 7:39of individuals. Therefore you blame
- 7:42oversimplifies the situation and prompts A predetermined
- 7:46conclusion of organisational issues.
- 7:48Importantly, if responsibility cannot ever be attributed to
- 7:52individuals, then we will struggle to fully understand the
- 7:55actions of people and why they did what they did.
- 7:58Although I have to say I've never really seen this
- 8:01hypothetical no blame organisation in practise and
- 8:05even in the more progressive, just and restorative
- 8:08environments I've worked in, individual accountability and
- 8:11responsibility always existed. In fact we really didn't need
- 8:14any more incentives to blame people.
- 8:17But something I should highlight is we do need to separate
- 8:20responsibility and accountability and forward
- 8:24looking and backward looking accountability.
- 8:27Was that individual even aware of what they were supposed to be
- 8:30doing or what the expectations were and where they
- 8:33appropriately supported resourced to actually do what
- 8:37was expected? But anyway, what they argue is
- 8:40by shifting focus away from individuals, like always, it
- 8:43becomes harder to truly learn from incidents and understand
- 8:46why people made the choices they did.
- 8:49And finally, to reiterate, new blame at the extreme level may
- 8:52simply reintroduce the old concept of acts of God.
- 8:56Largely intangible are uncontrollable forces that are
- 8:58readily flammable. So what can we make of the
- 9:02findings? There's a bit to say here.
- 9:04Remember I mentioned before around separating things like
- 9:07blame, accountability and responsibility.
- 9:10Particularly accountability should be more forward looking
- 9:13rather than retrospective. In any case, some things that
- 9:16came out of this paper I think is acknowledging that there
- 9:19could be some sort of new blame logic at play.
- 9:22So recognising that saying no blame and having this no blame
- 9:25approach can ironically create a new blame discourse that still
- 9:30possibly hinders genuine learning and safety
- 9:32improvements. We should be careful around
- 9:35being overly premature with blanket no blame promises as
- 9:39this can reinforce the concept of blame and damage trust.
- 9:42If we can't stick to it later on.
- 9:45Maybe as I suggest, shift towards terms like incident
- 9:48evaluations to foster an environment of learning rather
- 9:51than punishment, probing deeper than surface causal issues, so
- 9:56looking beyond easily blamed factors like inanimate objects
- 9:59and procedures or paperwork, and focus on understanding how
- 10:02workers interact with their tasks.
- 10:04So normal work promoting perhaps the restorative just culture
- 10:08ideas which do actually have accountability and
- 10:12responsibility baked into them already, and focus on deeper
- 10:17systemic learning. Easier said than done, but
- 10:20prioritise fixing your overall environment, processes and and
- 10:24interactions. Can, might, maybe help frontline
- 10:26workers, but this still requires delving into how human action
- 10:31influences and is influenced by underlying factors.
- 10:34Also, I'm reminded here around an early quote from James
- 10:37Reason. So Reason argued that perhaps
- 10:40the pendulum may have swung too far in our present attempts to
- 10:44track down possible errors and accident contributions that are
- 10:47widely separated in both time and place from the events
- 10:50themselves. So what he was arguing is that
- 10:53while systems level analysis are probably absolutely critical and
- 10:57still to this day probably not emphasised enough, sometimes we
- 11:01can try too hard and move well away from the actual incident in
- 11:06trying to find really distant latent contributing factors and
- 11:10under emphasising the actual active event itself.
- 11:14And just remember, a limitation of this study is that it wasn't
- 11:17actually looking at real investigations, but rather it
- 11:21was using simulations. Still useful, still insightful,
- 11:25but it may not necessarily accurately carry over to the way
- 11:29that we do investigations sort of in the real world.
- 11:33That's it on Safe. As I'm Ben Hutchinson, please
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