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Ghislaine Maxwell And The Deposition That Led To Her Downfall (Part 7) (5/15/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
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  In this episode, we're gonna pick right up where we
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  left off with Glen Maxwell's deposition. McCauley, did Jeffrey know redacted? Maxwell?
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  Clearly he knew him. I think we have that answer,
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  but how Yeah, McCauley, do you know how Jeffrey met redacted? Maxwell?
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  I do not know Jeffrey met redacted. What I do
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  know is that I did not introduce them. That is
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  one of the many lies. Are we tallying all the lies? McCauley.
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  Do you know when Jeffrey met redacted? Maxwell? I do
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  not know when Jeffrey met redacted? McCauley. Did you ever
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  introduce redacted to any girls under the age of eighteen
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  who are not friends of yours or your children? Maxwell?
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  I have not introduced redacted to anyone that I am
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  aware of, other than friends of mine who have kids
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  under that age that he may have met socially through me.
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  Mcaul Did you ever introduce redacted to Virginia in London? Maxwell?
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  I understand your story about redacted, but again, her tissue
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  of lies is extremely hard to pick apart what is
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  true and what isn't Actually, I wouldn't recollect her at
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  all but for her tissue stories about this situation. McCauley, So,
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  did you ever introduce redacted to Virginia in London? Maxwell?
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  I have no recollection McCauley. Did Virginia ever stay at
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  your home in London? Your town home? Maxwell? I know
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  she claimed she did, but if you were asking me
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  here today to remember specifically, I cannot. And just to interject,
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  really you don't know if she stayed the night at
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  your house. This vile fork tongue serpent known as Glenn
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  Maxwell is exactly where she belongs right now, and that's
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  behind bars. McCauley. Do you remember taking a trip with
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  Virginia to travel over to Europe, including London? Maxwell? So,
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  I have seen her reports, and I have seen the
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  plan reports. I see she says she was on there.
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  But again I really have no recollection of her. McCauley.
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  Did you know that she was seventeen at the time
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  of that trip? Mister Pagliuka objection to the form and
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  the foundation, Maxwell, I have, McCauley interrupts her. Did you
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  know that she was seventeen at the time of that trip,
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  mister Pagluka objection to the form and the Foundation. Maxwell,
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  I didn't even know she was on the trip. McCauley.
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  Did you hold her passport for when you were traveling?
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  Mister Pagliuca, objection to the form and the Foundation. Maxwell,
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  I have no recollection whatsoever of her ever being on
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  the trip nor holding her passport. Maxwell Exhibit four picture
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  marked for identification. McCauley, I'm showing you what we marked
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  as Maxwell Exhibit four. Can you take a look at
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  that picture for me? Maxwell, I've looked at it. McCauley,
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  are you in that picture? Maxwell? I am McCauley redacted. Maxwell,
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  it is mister pat I don't believe this has been
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  produced to us in discovery by you. McCauley. The picture,
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  mister Pagliuca. Yes, McCauley, it has Miss Meninger. Is it
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  the same exact photograph, McCauley. I believe so we will
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  find one. The picture has been produced a number of times,
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  mister Pakliuka. I've seen different iterations of this. I don't
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  believe I have ever seen this. Miss McCauley. We had
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  them blow it up on a page so she could
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  see it. We could use an article while you are
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  looking for that. I will skip ahead hold that until
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  we can find one that has the Baits range on it. McCauley,
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  do you ever recall Virginia being at your London town home? Maxwell?
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  I do not. McCauley. Do you ever recall going to
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  dinner with redacted Jeffrey Epstein Virginia Roberts in London at
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  any time? Maxwell? I do not. McCauley. Do you recall
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  going to a place called redacted redacted Jeffrey Epstein and
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  yourself and Virginia Roberts Maxwell, I would just like to
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  state for the record, whole bunch of redactions. I do
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  not have any recollection of it, and I doubt it
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  actually happened. McCauley, do you recall taking Virginia shopping when
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  you were in London to buy an outfit to meet redacted? Maxwell? No,
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  I don't, McCauley. Were you in your town home? We
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  will come back to that. Do you have a guest
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  bedroom in your townhome in London? Maxwell? I do, McCauley,
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  how many Maxwell two? McCauley. Did redacted ever visit Jeffrey
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  and you in New York? Maxwell? Yes, McCauley, do you
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  remember him visiting you and Jeffrey in New York in
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  the spring of two thousand and one. Maxwell, again, I
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  can't testify to any specific dates, McCauley, So you don't
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  have a recollection of that, Maxwell, I have a recollection.
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  You've asked me if I have a recollection of being
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  in New York, but if you're asking for a date,
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  I cannot confirm the date. McCauley, do you remember redacted
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  being present in New York for party where redacted and
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  redacted was also present? Maxwell, I do not recollect, McCauley,
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  do you recall ever giving redacted a gift of a
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  puppet that was in the same that looked like him? Maxwell,
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  I never gave him a gift of a puppet. So,
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  right then and there, that's a lie. Right, we know
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  that she's lying. We have Joanna Schuberg's account, and we
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  have Virginia's, and then we have the denial of a
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  convicted sex trafficker. You tell me who you believe, McCauley.
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  Did Jeffrey ever give him a gift of a puppet? Maxwell? No,
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  not that I'm aware of. McCauley, have you ever given
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  him any gifts? Mister Pagliuca objection to the Foundation. Maxwell,
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  I know redacted. McCauley. Have you ever given him any
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  gifts that you remember when he came to Jeffrey's home
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  in New York? Maxwell? I don't recall giving him any
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  gifts in New York. Maxwell, Exhibit five picture marked for identification. McCauley,
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  I think I directed you to page zero zero three four.
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  Is that a picture that was taken at your London
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  town home? Maxwell? I have no idea what this picture
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  was taken. I know what she reports it to be,
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  but I'm not going to say that I do. McCauley.
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  Do the surroundings look like your London town home? Maxwell?
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  They are familiar. McCauley. Do you know who took this picture? Maxwell?
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  I do not, McCauley. Did Jeffrey Epstein take the picture? Maxwell?
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  I just testified I don't know who took the picture, McCauley,
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  So you don't know if Jeffrey Epstein took that picture. Maxwell.
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  When I tell you I don't know who took the picture,
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  it doesn't mean him. I don't know who took the picture.
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  You can come up with fifty names. I still do
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  not know who took the picture. McCauley, did you observe
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  redacted go into a room with Virginia alone in your
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  town home? Maxwell? I cannot recall, As I have said, No, McCauley,
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  did redacted ever tell you that he had sex with
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  Virginia Roberts Maxwell? He did not. McCauley. Did Jeffrey Epstein
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  never tell you that redacted had sex with Virginia Roberts Maxwell?
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  He did not. McCauley. Did redacted ever visit Let me
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  back up for a moment. We talked about Jeffreys Holmes.
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  Did Jeffrey have a home in the US virgin Islands
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  called Little Saint James? Maxwell? Yes? Did redacted ever visit
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  that island? Are you aware of redacted ever visiting Jeffrey's island? Maxwell?
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  I'm aware of that, Yes, McCauley. Do you know how
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  many times he visited? Maxwell? I do not. McCauley. Do
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  you know if he ever visited when Virginia was on
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  the island? Maxwell? I do not. McCauley, were you president
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  on the island when redacted visited Maxwell? Yes, McCauley, how
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  many times? Maxwell? I can only remember once. McCauley. Were
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  there any girls under the age of eighteen on the
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  island during that one visit that you remember that were
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  not your family or friends or daughters of your friends.
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  Mister Pagliuca, objection to the Form and the Foundation. Maxwell.
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  There were no girls on the island at all. No girls,
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  no women other than the staff who work at the
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  house girls meaning I assume you're asking underage, but there
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  was nobody female outside of the cooks and the cleaners. McCauley,
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  did you ever, as part of your duties in working
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  for Jeffrey, ever arranged for Virginia to have sex with redacted?
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  Mister Pagliuka objection to the Form and the Foundation. Maxwell.
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  Just for the record, I have never, at any time,
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  any place, in any moment, ever asked Virginia Roberts, or
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  whatever she is called now, to have sex with anybody. McCauley,
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  did you ever provide Virginia Roberts with an outfit, an
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  outfit of a sexual nature for her to wear for redacted?
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  Mister Pagliuca objection to the Form and the Foundation. Maxwell.
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  I think we address the outfit issue, McCauley. I'm asking
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  if you ever provided her with an outfit of a
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  sexual nature to where four redacted. Maxwell categorically, no, you
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  did get that, I said, categorically no, McCauley. Don't worry.
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  I'm paying attention Maxwell. You seem very distract in that moment.
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  Maxwell exhibits six flight logs marked for identification. Maxwell, do
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  you mind if I take a break for the bathroom. McCauley.
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  It's eleven oh eight and we are going off the
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  record now. After a brief recess, everybody's back and they're
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  ready to go. McCauley, Miss Maxwell, I think I handed
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  you right before the break. Did I hand you the
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  flight logs? They look like this? Did I mark those yet?
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  I thought I did. Maxwell, I don't believe I have it. McCauley.
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  These admittedly are a little difficult to read. So what
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  I'm going to provide you with to assist is I
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  have a chart that has airport codes, because it will have,
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  for example, just for the record, reflects that the first
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  page of the document redacted, it will have a code
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  in the front life that says PPI for example to TEB.
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  So a chart that matches up, just in case that
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  you don't understand what those letters mean. PBI meaning palm beach,
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  TEB meaning Teterborough, which is in New Jersey, but others
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  are more difficult. But just for you to be able
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  to understand the logs, I will provide you with that,
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  mister Pagliuca, So we are clear. If the witness has
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  personal knowledge of what these are, that's fine. But I
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  don't know what these are, and I don't expect the
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  witness to accept the representation that they are what they are, McCauley.
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  If she can testify to what it is, she can
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  state that on the record, Pagliuka. If she knows what
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  it is, she knows what it is. We are not
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  putting any affirmatively on the record until you ask your questions, McCauley.
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  So I'm going to ask you, and I think we
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  flagged a few of the pages which may direct us
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  a little bit easier, but I will do it by
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  Bates number with which is at the bottom of the document,
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  kind of at the side. The first I will direct
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  your attention to is redacted. Maxwell. Does it have a
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  tab McCauley, it should. Let me make sure Maxwell, Yes,
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  it does, McCauley. So I'm directing your attention to the bottom.
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  Two lines up from the bottom, there is a flight
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  mister Pagliuca, are are you on redacted? Miss McCauley. Redacted McCauley,
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  so this flight is from the one I'm looking at.
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  I think it's highlighted on your copy on the far
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  corner on the date it says redacted at the top,
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  and this would be redacted and then the redacted are
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  the two I'm going to direct your attention too, and
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  just interject again real quickly. All the people out there
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  are talking about flight logs, this flight logs that here's
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  an idea. Read the cord documents. You can really tell
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  who doesn't know what the fuck they're talking about. The
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  second they start piping off about dumb shit. McCauley goes
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  on on that first one. On the redacted. You will
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  see the column reading PBI in the from column to
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  TEB in the two column, and you will see some initials.
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  You will see JAYE for Jeffrey Epstein, GM for Glenn
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  Maxwell and redacted for redacted, and then Virginia Maxwell. I
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  have to object, mister Pagliuca. You don't get to object, McCauley.
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  She is turning into a lawyer already. Maxwell. I would
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  like to McCauley, let me ask the questions and if
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  you have an issue. So with respect to this flight,
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  do you recall being on a flight in the redacted
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  or redacted going from Balm Beach to Teeterborough? Maxwell, I
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  do not recall any specific flight. McCauley, do you recall
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  flying with Virginia on a flight with redacted and Jeffrey
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  Epstein at the same time? Maxwell? I don't. McCauley, how
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  often did you fly on a plane with a seventeen
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  year old? Mister Pagliuka objection to form and foundation. Maxwell,
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  I have no idea what you're talking about other than
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  friends of mine that had kids. McCauley, did you regularly
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  fly on Jeffrey's plane with individuals who are under the
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  age of eighteen? Mister Pagliuca objection to the form and
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  the foundation? Maxwell, can you repeat the question, McCauley, did
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  you regularly fly on Jeffrey Epstein's planes with individuals who
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  were under the age of eighteen? Maxwell? I regularly flew
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  on Jeffrey Epstein's planes, but I cannot testify as to
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  flying with people under the age. I don't believe that
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  I did. McCauley. Why wouldn't you remember flying with the
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  seventeen year old Mister Pagliuca objection to the form and
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  the Foundation. Maxwell, How would I know one that she
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  is seventeen? How would you know that? How do you
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  know that I'm on the plane? McCauley. Are you saying
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  that you are not on this flight? So this is
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  a Palm Beach to Teeterborough. This says that je GM
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  redacted in Virginia. The GM you are saying is not you.
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  Mister Pagliuca, I object to the form. You can answer
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  the question if you know, Maxwell, How do you know
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  the GM is me? McCauley. Is it your testimony that
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  on the flight logs when it represents GM, that it
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  is not you flying on the plane. Mister Pagliuca. Objection
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  to the Forum and the Foundation. Maxwell. GM can stand
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  for any level. It could be Georgina, It could be
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  George McCauley. Are there any people that flew with Jeffrey
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  Epstein that had the initials GM? Maxwell? I don't know, McCauley.
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  Do you recall flying with Jeffrey Epstein on his plane
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  over three hundred times during the period of nineteen ninety
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  nine to two thousand and five, Maxwell, I cannot testify
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  to how many times I was on this plane because
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  that would just be impossible. McCauley, You were on his
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  plane regularly, would you say, Maxwell, I already testified that
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  I was on his plane regularly. McCauley, is it your testimony?
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  And I'm referring now to the line that we were
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  just talking about, that you were not on the flight
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  from Palm Beach to Teeterborough that lives Jaye, GM redacted
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  and Virginia Maxwell, I am not testifying to that. I
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  am just saying that you cannot be sure that is me. McCauley.
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  So as you sit here today, you don't believe you
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  flew on that plane. Maxwell, I'm not saying that. I'm
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  just saying you cannot be sure that's me. McCauley. Do
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  you have reason to doubt that when it says GM
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  on these flight logs that that represents you. Maxwell, I
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  cannot testify to that. I'm just saying that it may
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  not be me. McCauley. In looking at the flight logs
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  and look up, let's move a couple of lines. If
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  you start at the top, you're going to see Jae redacted,
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  then jay E redacted or redacted, jae redacted or redacted,
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  jay e GM, jay e GM, jay e GM redacted,
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  reposition jay e GM, jay e GM redacted, jay e
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  GM redacted redacted, redacted female redacted, repositioning, jay e GM redacted, redacted,
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  jay e GM redacted redacted jay e GM redacted vergin
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  Rginia JEGM redactive Virginia repositioning, and then a certification. So
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  is it your testimony and looking at that that you
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  do not believe that the GM represents you, mister Pagliuca
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  objection to the form and the foundation. Maxwell, I'm not
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  saying that. I'm just saying that you cannot. I can't
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  sit here and tell you for sure, GM is me
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  and I cannot testify remembering being on a flight at
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  that time. McCauley, you don't remember being on any of
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  these flights with the initial GM. Maxwell, I remember being
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  on many flights. I cannot testify that this is a
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  flight that I'm on. All right, folks, We're gonna wrap
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  up right there and in the next episode we'll pick
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  back up with the Barf Bag Express. All the information
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