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Rick Ross & Drake's Beef, Micheal Movie Cash Out, Beyonce Left Off Top Song Writer's List, & More! · What More Can I Say?

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  Speaker 4: No more, you always got to ask whole men where
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  Speaker 2: it's because we all were busy moving around, lot of
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  Speaker 2: stuff having So, like we said, we don't want to
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  Speaker 2: shorten you of an episode, So we're going to give
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  Speaker 2: you a shorter episode if that makes sense.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, we're gonna give you an extra one.
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  Speaker 3: And we gave them an interview with Taylor Bennet this week.
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  Speaker 1: no nobody.
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  Speaker 2: And you see people starting to want to be on
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  Speaker 2: the show lately. You notice that wess back to the back.
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  Speaker 2: Guess that's good. Were starting to want to be on
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  Speaker 2: the show. Okay, let's go all right, let's get to it.
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  Speaker 1: Though.
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  Speaker 2: Meek Meal, he says Dreams at Nightmares is one of
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  Speaker 2: the best rap songs to ever come out.
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  Speaker 1: He is one hundred percent right, for sure.
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't disagree with that.
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  Speaker 5: It hadn't it's it's it's it's had a time the nightmares.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's dope.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, depending on how much gin I'm drinking the night,
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  Speaker 5: you know.
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  Speaker 1: You might might turn it up. I'm not mad at that.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's arguably the best intro to album.
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  Speaker 2: That it is the best ever ever be made in
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  Speaker 2: rap history at this point.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody's had a better, better intro. But no, it's one.
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  Speaker 1: It goes up Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. Okay, outside of Dreams and Nightmares. Best
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  Speaker 2: rap song, what's your best rap song?
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  Speaker 1: Not like Us? Mmm, that's a good one.
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  Speaker 5: Not like Us? Hit him Up by Tupac California, Love
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  Speaker 5: by tupac Uh to Live and Die and that La.
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  Speaker 1: Made all the best songs he did.
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  Speaker 3: It's something a battle Park's wrong to.
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  Speaker 1: Make you feel a way it does.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna give you a couple. I'm gonna say, no hands.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no hands is one of the best rap
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  Speaker 4: songs to me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you said that, it is. It's one of the best, he.
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  Speaker 3: Says, A perfect song.
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  Speaker 1: It is, it is. What else is there?
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  Speaker 4: I just feel like there has to be a g
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  Speaker 4: Z song in there somewhere that is one of the
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  Speaker 4: best in hip hop. Not sure which one. I can't
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  Speaker 4: think of it right now, but it's gotta be one.
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  Speaker 4: My president was black.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't the time, but I.
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  Speaker 2: Think I forgot the name of it. I can't believe
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  Speaker 2: forgot the name, like from the bottom of the map.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah on the strap he yeah, that was one. That
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  Speaker 1: was That was it? Yeah? T I yeah, T. I
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  Speaker 1: has one, probably THEO.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if I want to go twenty fours
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  Speaker 4: or you don't know me, but I might go you
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  Speaker 4: don't know me.
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  Speaker 1: That was one of my favorite songs. Favorite one. The
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  Speaker 1: name of this podcast? What can I say? Jay Z?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Oh god, how do I forget, forget that. Everything just
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  Speaker 4: said except the Rosco Watch the Throne picked three of
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  Speaker 4: the best rap songs ever was on that album? To
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  Speaker 4: me really absolutely that was one of my favorite albums.
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  Speaker 4: Watch the Throne was amazing.
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  Speaker 1: It was good. It was absolutely amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Uh one more, can I say DMX what you want
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  Speaker 2: from us?
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  Speaker 1: Yes? DMX and Cisco Yes, like that is that's that's
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  Speaker 1: one of the odd time.
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  Speaker 2: And then.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, I for Nelly, I knew he was.
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  Speaker 3: I was he better say his go Nelly?
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  Speaker 1: You think that's his best song? Oh that's a you
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  Speaker 1: think is his best song?
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  Speaker 3: That's a great song.
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  Speaker 1: It is that b drop it?
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  Speaker 3: Di ain't make that noise? Boy?
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  Speaker 1: What's so respect O'nelly's name?
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  Speaker 2: Bro?
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  Speaker 1: You know Audible mentioned Luda Move.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great one.
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  Speaker 4: Let's go on to We're not Lucas Move when the
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  Speaker 4: best hip hop songs of all time? Baby, we're pushing it,
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  Speaker 4: little baby, pushing it, little mama, I mean big mama.
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  Speaker 2: We're just saying now, all right, man pleading not guilty.
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  Speaker 2: Gucci Man kidnapped Big Case. His events team said they
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  Speaker 2: believe that the case is highly defensible and hopes he'll
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  Speaker 2: eventually returned to making music soon.
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  Speaker 1: Hm hmm.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, Well that's what his defense team is supposed to say,
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  Speaker 5: and that's how you're supposed to please want to get
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  Speaker 5: out of jail. So I'm not really shocked by any
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  Speaker 5: of that information. But he's gonna have a t I think,
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  Speaker 5: trying to prove his innocence in this case. With all
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  Speaker 5: of the technology, time stamps, videos, testimonies from other people,
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  Speaker 5: it can get sticky, you know, but hey, I don't
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  Speaker 5: know he can get Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Zach, what do you think about this?
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  Speaker 4: I just wonder it's Gucci gonna take the stand, that's
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  Speaker 4: my question. If it's gonna take the stand. If he does,
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  Speaker 4: it's gonna ruin the street crib.
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  Speaker 1: Not that he.
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  Speaker 4: Cares, not that he can't know how I feel about that.
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  Speaker 4: I know you don't care about street care but love
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  Speaker 4: street music.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, facts true.
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  Speaker 1: We I don't know, because.
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  Speaker 5: Street music is great. But dying over something or going
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  Speaker 5: to jail over something that's stupid.
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  Speaker 1: But that's what we're rapping about.
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  Speaker 3: That's fine. But rap can be it's art.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it could be art, but it all. Art
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  Speaker 1: influences life too well, it.
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  Speaker 3: Shouldn't, don't.
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  Speaker 5: Let don't let no street songs influence your life. You're
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  Speaker 5: gonna end up deada in jail, and that's dumb.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is dumb. And I think it's not even
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  Speaker 2: about Gucci. It's how Gucci feels about pools Shisty and
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  Speaker 2: what allegedly happened right that that's really what will determine
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  Speaker 2: him getting on the standard. I don't think the fact
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  Speaker 2: he cares about street cred. I don't think what you
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  Speaker 2: man at this point is like there's a hell with
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  Speaker 2: people on the internet that make way less money than him,
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  Speaker 2: have way less successful than him, care about what they
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  Speaker 2: think about him.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't care. He's not really making music anymore.
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  Speaker 2: This is going to be a fact of either I
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  Speaker 2: want to get revenge on you for doing something to
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  Speaker 2: me and and and putting me through that, or I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna be like, you know what, I'm gonna let it
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  Speaker 2: rock all right, Cool, you made a mistake. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: gonna be the one to send you a jail. It's
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  Speaker 2: really how you feel about about Pushaisty.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see. That's it.
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  Speaker 2: That videographer though, that's the one. The videographer is the
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  Speaker 2: one that has scratches on his neck. He wanted to
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  Speaker 2: got he he I'm sure ain't never been in that
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  Speaker 2: type of situation before.
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  Speaker 1: That's the one you telling every baby. Hell, that's the one.
• 9:02
  Speaker 2: So if anybody you want to have a conversation with
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  Speaker 2: before he touches that stand, it might be I get.
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  Speaker 4: I just don't think that you should play gangsters like
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  Speaker 4: either you are you aren't?
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Don't think it's too serious
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  Speaker 1: of a thing to play with.
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  Speaker 5: What time do we get to retire those? At what
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  Speaker 5: age do we get to retire? If I was a
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  Speaker 5: gag Gucci made all that music a long time ago.
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  Speaker 5: He then went to jail, got reprogram They say he
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  Speaker 5: was cloned. At what time do he get to.
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  Speaker 4: Stop being stop?
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  Speaker 1: So?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, what at what age? He's forty six years old?
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  Speaker 5: Street cred?
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  Speaker 4: It's not about street cred. It's just about you cut
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  Speaker 4: the gangster off when it happened to you.
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  Speaker 1: You can't. I don't think you can do that.
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  Speaker 4: And if you're still making those type of records, you
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  Speaker 4: still prophetize, you still making profit and putting that energy
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  Speaker 4: out into the world, and then you can't just stop
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  Speaker 4: it when it happened to you?
• 9:53
  Speaker 3: Is he though?
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  Speaker 5: Because I mean, didn't he make a sound telling that's
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  Speaker 5: his new tie. The whole song was a confession. I
• 9:59
  Speaker 5: guess that's right, So maybe he is switching it up.
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: He did, so it's a crazy case that we're gonna see.
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  Speaker 2: I just honestly think that it's really all Gucci. How
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: you feel about who that's I think it's just how
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  Speaker 2: I feel all thats. Listen to some Rick Ross audio
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  Speaker 2: was really talking about I found out with.
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: Rose saying let's get him up. Oh no, not no,
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  Speaker 1: not that one.
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  Speaker 6: This bro, Drake, if you listening to this, homie, listen
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  Speaker 6: to me shine. I don't want to see you lose. No,
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  Speaker 6: real want to see you lose. That ain't what it's about.
• 10:38
  Speaker 6: This coach of this game, this rap, This ain't what
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  Speaker 6: it's about. I don't want to see you lose. Really,
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  Speaker 6: just want to see really shine together.
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  Speaker 5: You understand now this is what I don't respect. This
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  Speaker 5: is what I don't like. You know now, Drake got
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  Speaker 5: an album coming out. You know you know what's about
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  Speaker 5: to happen. So now you want a backpack pussy pop. No,
• 11:01
  Speaker 5: keep that same energy that you had when you was
• 11:04
  Speaker 5: and when everybody was jumping on the Bandwagon.
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  Speaker 3: I don't agree with that now, that is what I
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  Speaker 3: don't respect.
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  Speaker 4: I agree with you, Kiki. And then you were the
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  Speaker 4: main Rick Ross. You were the main one because we
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  Speaker 4: didn't know. We asked, we said, why is Rick Ross
• 11:15
  Speaker 4: beefing with Drake? What's his issue? And then you said
• 11:18
  Speaker 4: that you had some issue with the way he did
• 11:19
  Speaker 4: French Montana and the way that he didn't clear some
• 11:22
  Speaker 4: record for french Montana. Meanwhile, French Montana not mad. So
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  Speaker 4: I don't know how you mad at in French Montana
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  Speaker 4: about something that happened allegedly happened to French This is
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  Speaker 4: classic Rick Ross, and take a shot. We let Rick
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  Speaker 4: Ross slide with everything because he's rich and he is
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  Speaker 4: really good with words, and he makes good music.
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  Speaker 3: You called it out a long time ago, and.
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  Speaker 4: Then I been told y'all like he's been very foul gayzy,
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  Speaker 4: like from the jump. But he's really funny. He's a
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  Speaker 4: nice guy and he's rich, so we just let everything go.
• 12:00
  Speaker 4: But he does weird stuff all the time. He took
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  Speaker 4: somebody whole name. I'm just saying, I'm just saying from
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  Speaker 4: the beginning, if we're gonna go there, you took a
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  Speaker 4: drug dealer's whole name, and and built a rap career
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  Speaker 4: because you can rap very well around his identity as
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  Speaker 4: this street dude. But then you are a correctional our
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  Speaker 4: officer in the background dancer, okay, which is weird.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't think you would make that type of music.
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  Speaker 4: I think you would make the don't stop pop that
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  Speaker 4: type of music from your background, which is nothing wrong
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  Speaker 4: with all. Right, Now you're a gangster, then you sign everybody.
• 12:38
  Speaker 4: Now you're a businessman, which is fine too, But then
• 12:41
  Speaker 4: you hate Drake because of something else to happen with
• 12:43
  Speaker 4: somebody else, and you sell wings and he just is
• 12:47
  Speaker 4: I don't he does a lot? Then he remember he
• 12:51
  Speaker 4: was only eat thighs.
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  Speaker 1: It's just funny. It's just he does a lot, like
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  Speaker 1: does Rick does. That's not even his name. What is
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: his name? We need to call him by his name.
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  Speaker 1: Stop that.
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  Speaker 3: You need to stop. Because when he was up here,
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  Speaker 3: you was being so nice to him.
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  Speaker 1: I told you he's a nice guy.
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  Speaker 3: Some chicken with him.
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  Speaker 1: I'm scary.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say this, Liz by the whole thing
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  Speaker 2: of being likable. Likability works, and I would have to
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: ask Rick, I want to know why you were mad.
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  Speaker 2: Why when everything was happening to Drake, why you were
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: mad at him? That's the thing, you know, we don't
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: know that. I need a legit reason why you were mad?
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: Now were they were reports saying that Drake was doing.
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: There was reason why a lot of other dudes was
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: coming jumping on because Drake is a sampler. He's gonna
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: take your girl, which I think is bogus. Lead people
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: women alone. Dog you Drake, you can go talk to anybody.
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: Drake gonna take what you got and throw it in
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  Speaker 2: your face. That's not cool, big dog. But it still
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  Speaker 2: circles back to all of this. Ross knows like everybody knows,
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: and Drake knows knows that I I lost the Kendred cool.
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  Speaker 2: But none of you that jumped on the badwagon can
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  Speaker 2: rap better than me, and none of y'all can make
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  Speaker 2: better songs than me. I'm going to talk about you
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  Speaker 2: ruthlessly and you're not going to be able to do
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  Speaker 2: nothing about it because you don't want to smoke. You
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  Speaker 2: don't want to go in no rap battle with me.
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: And that's I think that's what we look at. People
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: backpad on it because they know they are going to
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: get punched in the face on the fifteenth.
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: Didn't he put out a diss record and everything.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it didn't move the needle, didn't do nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody everybody was like, what are you you forcing your
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: way into this. You can't, you can't.
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: He cannot beat that. Rick Ross can't beat Drake in nothing.
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  Speaker 2: That has to do a rap in nothing. And most
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: people that were jumping on the bad wagon can't beat
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  Speaker 2: Drake in nothing.
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  Speaker 1: And that's just a fact.
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  Speaker 3: That's true.
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  Speaker 2: That's just a f That's not me trying to glaze nobody.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: That's just the truth.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. But you know, we'll see, we'll see big wow.
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  Speaker 2: Zach is researching Rick Ross over there, typing away on
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: their computer.
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: William Roberts. I just want to.
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  Speaker 4: What you're doing, Williams. That's what we need to talk about. No,
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: who is that?
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: But that you know, rapids art for him? Zact, thank you,
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  Speaker 3: it's art.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: Let's get this petty fools over there. Michael, I know
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: you'd be happy about this. Angry man has grossed over
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: five hundred million at the Global Box.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: What you call him, you're saying, Malcolm said. Malcolm said,
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: Malcolm is the remote.
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  Speaker 5: He having flashbacks and civil rights, Malcolm, I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Ready for the market.
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  Speaker 3: Oh god, Michael is what he said?
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  Speaker 1: Michael, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Michaels over five at the global box office. N This
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: husband become the only second musical biopic in biopic in
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: history to reach this milestone, alongside Bohemian Rhapsody.
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  Speaker 3: Good.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it's Michael Jackson. You know that He's the
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: one person that everybody cares about. I think, or has
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: relevance in every community.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: Oh, young white black like, everybody know Michael Jackson. So
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: I expected big numbers for this movie. What I didn't
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: expect is for this movie to not tell the full story. Now,
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: y'all got one more part out of me. Y'all got
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: part and part two. Better give what it's supposed to give?
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  Speaker 1: What part you want?
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: I want the whole story.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: What story?
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: Tell it all.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: Mike was being investigated by the fans. The people was
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: trying to throw him under the jail because you miss conspiracy.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Theory, you are you gotta be on the side of this.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: They were trying to throw Mike under the jail because
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Michael was trying to make humongous business moves and they
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: threw stuff on him.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Ain't no way you're gonna duck the fans.
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: For seventeen years, thirteen years, they investigated and found nothing.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: And nothing, so that that shows you it was a
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: conspiracy against.
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: Did you know his doctor allegedly sedated him. See this,
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: I guess this is what Ki saying she wants to see.
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: Thank you, y'all, y'all tell him none of that was
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: in the movie. He wanted to play twister in the movie,
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: and he packed the monkey and then he went on
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: tour with his brothers and his daddy was a villain.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: That's all we got.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: That's all we ask.
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: No I need I need to like, tell me this
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: is one of our legends. These kids need to know
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: everything that Michael Jackson went through for real. And it
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: was just getting the whooping by his daddy. It was
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: a lot more and it means a lot more to
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: the culture in the way things are in music business
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: today right now, if they would tell the truth.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Do you think it should be the movie should be?
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: I think that.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: If there is a second part of the movie, another part,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: it should be like this. I wanted to be performance based.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: I want to have a little bit we touch on
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: the stories a little bit, and I like that what
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: you talking about? You want a documentary, a documentary, a
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: docuseries that I'm not mad at somebody really giving us
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: a docuseries, but for like movie entertainment rights, it just
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: it feels just give me.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: Tell you what, give us one of those storylines. You
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: may not be able to have the time to dig
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: into all of them. But there's another antagonist other than
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: Joe in Michael's life.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: Plenty of them, you know what I'm saying.
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: So that's the only part I didn't like is like
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: the guy who can help get them there is the
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: most evil person in the movie, which is his dad
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: who loved them. You know, it's like, oh no, that's
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: the evilest person a. It was a lot of people
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: after Michael Jackson. Did you see the video because I ain't.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: I've been on the rabbit hole since the movie came out.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: Did you see that his doctor recorded him while he
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: was deeply, deeply sedated, and like, I guess he was
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: recording them, I guess to try to get some dirt.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: Michael so pure, he's sedated talking about how he want
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: to build hospitals for sick children, and he's gonna put
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: a movie the reason the kids are, he said, the
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: reason the kids are, and they're sick because they're depressed.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: Michael Jackson's hospital is gonna have a movie theater. It's
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: gonna have this in there. It's gonna do that.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: And he's still as pure as he as as peer
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: as he is. Yeah, and human being.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: They tried to take him, they did. Michael just dirty
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: and not so many different ways. And the only way
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: we saw on the movie is Joe. And what's gonna
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: happen is revision is history. We get older, we all
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: gonna pass away one day and get around and the
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: only thing we gonna know is that Michael.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Daddy was mean to him.
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, not that the touring companies was allegedly pumping him
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: with all this medication to make him get on the road,
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: to make them this last little tour money.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: I said, A docu series probably would be what you
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: guys looking for.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: I'm not mad at that one.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Want a movie, yes.
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: I wanted had a great movie that told that your
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: Tina Turner, what love doing?
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: What okay? Okay?
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: Showed us every piece of that relationship, how he was
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: with the kids. We saw everything, how she had to
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: come back up and rebuild her life a movie, Give
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: me a movie with some substance. This is this was
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: we don't want to talk against because his nephew did
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: a fabulous job.
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: But Ali, thank you substance. You knew what Ali stood for.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: You knew what he believed in. It was still the
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: movie cinematic thing, but you had a better understanding, Mike.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: This movie is that I didn't hate you.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: Sing with your brothers that is mad again, sing with
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: your brothers that is mad. Sing with your brothers by yourself,
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: that's it?
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, drafts, y'all have symplified this movie and
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: I hate you.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: They made all the money from it, so they ain't
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: like we hurting anything.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: You definitely not hurting it right now. It's shut out.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: It was.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: I think it was a classic movie. I think I
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: think it.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: I think it was.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Perfect for the time, you know, to reintroduced people, to
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: remind people. I think this was about reintroducing Mike to
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: the general public and reminding the public of how great
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: a performing and how great Mike was. I think this
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: was a reintroduction and it was also a reminder. All right,
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: did you guys see that? Speaking of Mike, did you
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: gotta see that pop fam. I don't know if I'm
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: out of the frame.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Uh, have you seen the Teddy Ry story?
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Teddy, Yeah, Teddy Riley told the story that Mike told him.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Michael Jackson told him this. Michael Jackson told him about.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: A time when he was It was a I guess
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: it was a war show and James Brown was on
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: and James Brown called Mike up on the stage and
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Mike went, Mike did his thing, did his thing, and
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: he told James Brown that Prince was on the stage
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: and Prince and Prince came up and he didn't do
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: so well. He didn't do so well, and it was
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: actually everybody thought Teddy Riley was kind of lying because
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: he's like, he was like.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: But it was actually true.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: They pulled up a video of it and he said
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: that Mike had a tape of Prince trying to run
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: him down after because Prince saw Mike laughing at and
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: uh at him failing.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: He said, he said he tried to hit me.
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: And my father with a car with a car, Yeah,
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: with a red Corvette, which is funny.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Actually hilarious.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: I love that.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: It's a hilarious story. He's like, he gave it to who.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: I can't remember who he was talking to, but he's like,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: he gave him the tape.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: He's like, I have copies of it. Yep, yep. Mike
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: is funny.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: He tried to talking trying to run him down in
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: a rid corp I love.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy him been Prince. They really, they really
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: were competitors.
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: They were competitors, that's the time, and that's why they
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: both were great. You gotta have somebody to kind of
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: push you. That's why Chris coming out with this, uh
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: regular album. Yeah, he needs Chris needs some competition. Chris
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: just out here, most talented dude out here by hisself,
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: so he ain't got nothing to kind of basis to
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: give him no competitive edge, you know what I'm saying.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: Mike had Prince. He was worried about Prince. Prince was
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: on his head. He said, you know what, Prince ain't
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: gonna better than me. Prince, like, I got to be
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: better than Michael, who Chris talking to talking about just
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: him by myself.
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: He's gonna on tour with us here, and that's great.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: We'll see well. New York Times plains.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: While Beyonce did not make the thirty gradiest songwriters saying
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: she's a curator, executive, producer, and performer.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: That makes sense, That makes sense.
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: Uh, I'm not in the studio would be, so I
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: don't know what's really going on or what's being written.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: But if she's try I don't know a thing.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: If she's credited, if she's credited on her songs as
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: a songwriter, then she should have been on the list.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Her best songs have been written by other people.
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: I am not disagreeing with that, but if she's credited
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: on those songs as a songwriter, then she should be
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: included in the list. But I think the industry has
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: this issue with Beyonce, where she's so great at what
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: she does, y'all don't want to ever give her the
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: title of anything else. Y'all won't let her be an actress.
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: Y'all won't let her be an entrepreneur. Y'all only want
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: to say she is the best singer and don't let
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: her in any other areas. But everybody who has worked
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: with Beyonce, from her songwriters to her producers, have all
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: said the girl is musically a genius.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: They've said that.
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: So I don't I don't understand why we even having
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: this conversation about her being left off any list. She
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: should be on every list, every list, in my opinion,
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: and she did her damn thing in Cadillac Records that
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: she should have won some type of award for acting.
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: Y'all don't want to give her that, I know, because
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: y'all hate how she already dominated music.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: But it is what it is.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Wow, that was a lot.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: Every list, every list at the top.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Wow, that's a She didn't sound like damn to me.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: To be a lion, you idiot, not a t She don't.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: Sound nothing like a lion to me talking about Cadillac Records.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: She played herself, nur, she did not.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: She played.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: When I saw Carmen in that musical, I shouldn't have
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: one the goddamn thing. I saw that too.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: That went platinum on VHR thank you.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: So I don't know she talked about.
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: But okay, y'all just hate to see great people do
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: anything other than what you want them to do.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: Y'all really hate when they're great.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: We love Jamie Foxx. He do the same way that
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: you do them because because he does it very well.
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: But y'all don't y'all ain't go y'all don't give Jamie
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: everything he could do for music.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Why take wrote all of
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: the his?
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: You can't get credit when people are writing take a shot,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: take when.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: They're writing your his. We're not saying she's not talented.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: She does not belong on the thirty Greatest song Writers.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: But ya, but y'all still do. I can't say that.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: She don't agree. I know we already said thug though.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Either I was talking about the acting.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: I wasn't talking about the songs anything they got to
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: do with music and songs. She should be on that
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: say symbol symbol.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Simba? Who was Simba?
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Irritate.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: That sounds like.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: I know, I know this. Th ain't over here doing
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: too much laughing.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Hey, look I could do Paul and she.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: Can do Beyonce.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: So don't do what?
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: Don't do what?
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Oh it's just he's crazy.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Man. Okay, are you guys here for this?
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: A Fast and Furious TV series is in the works
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: with Pincock.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: The franchise will start.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Vin Diesel is set to actually starting it and executive
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: produce it.
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: I'm tired, but I ain't even watched the first I
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: ain't never watched The Fast and Furious.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: Actually, s I should shut up.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Let's just let it go.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: What y'all think.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: I think we should let it go. They gotta let
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: it go.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: If they have milk, they have juiced everything out this movie.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: I don't know know which one of their own ten.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: I don't know eleven. They've done eleven movies of this,
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: but every year now they are good that. I will
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: say this. I've enjoyed it.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Even Tokyo Drift, which one was that's when b was
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: inw I was in pastive here.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: When the car jumped by ice.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: They need to put.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Just for old time back. Yeah, I like them. I
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: even liked the one bow Wow was in. I actually
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: think bow Wow is a really good actor. I don't understand,
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: not that I don't understand why he stopped doing like
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: I was confused by that.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: That's another one. I was confused credit.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: I definitely and I'm bow Wow bow Wow acting.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: He had like a quick bang bang bang, like three
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: a three piece he started, he stopped acting, which I
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: don't understand. There's another. Chris Brown was actually and that
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: what's the name of the one where.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: I was in there?
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: It was the bag, the Takers take it. Chris Brown
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: did a good job in that movie.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Chris Brown can act. T I can act. Bow
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: Wow can act.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Did y'all like Takers? I thought it was good. I
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: like that. I like that. Yeah, I like Takers. Yeah,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty good.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I like If it's still selling, hey, I
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: say do it till you can't do it no more. Okay,
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: they putting movies like Michael in the movie theater, so
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: why you might as well go see it because they
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: ain't telling full story. So if y'all gonna tell a
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: full story, go do it. I like I like looking
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: at how louda Chris Live. I love watching his page
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: and watching his wife on vacation. If Fast and Furious
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: is doing that for him, I'm never gonna say stop it.
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: I love seeing how ty Reese live. Get y'all bags, boys,
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: get your money.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: We got it. Sound like it's gotta be some other
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: stories to talk about. But no, Fast, We're gonna tell
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: the same story eleven times.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: By the time they're still selling it.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: By the time the car was faster than the jet,
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: I'm still it's literally a jet flying. They in the
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: car hit the rock and they passing the jet. You
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: just we're.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Out of stuff.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: That's crazy.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: We are out of stuff, and we are out of
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: stuff that cars can do. I like it. Okay, Well
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: make another movie.
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: You never raced the plane on the air on the expressway,
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: you do, man?
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: Racing a plane, y'all ain't never seem like a plane
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: in the air. You just say like like I'm gonna
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: beat this plane.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: But crazy you mad at Michael?
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: All right, man, all right, we got some lifestyle couurch.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: We're gonna get it.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: One lifestyle question before we get wrapped things up. Could
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: you ever be a housewife or a house husband?
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: No, no, yes, and no. You know.
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: Shout out to the pie Faun. They are definitely checking in.
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: First of all, we have gotten a couple of threats
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: from the five fam. I got a nice little message
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: earlier this morning from Red Campbell. She said, are y'all okay?
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: Because I know y'all don't want another PIP She said that,
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: so no, we don't. That's why we are here, and
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: that's why we give you an extra episode. We don't
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: want any smoke. Shout out to Taylor reading from Oklahoma.
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: Watching Shout out to Melissa Marie, who is the young
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: lady that I met at the Obsidian or a medspot said,
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: it was surreal getting to meet you in person. You
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: look more stunning in person. Thank you friend. Let me
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: see it was another one checking in from Greece. Shout
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: out to Kayla oh nine one oh hey pot family
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: on VAK checking in from Greece.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: Love that.
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I wanted it was one more. I really
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: wanted to get to do Do Do Do Do Do
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: Damn pop fam y'all be going so crazy in these comments.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: They be missing. Yeah. I don't know, We'll get to
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: it on the next episode.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: I guess.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, absolutely all right, guys, you got a quick thirty
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: for thirty.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Were about to get up out of here with What
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: more can I say