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Trans Children The Supreme Court and your calls · Chuck Douglas

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  Speaker 1: Chef Douglas in the Power Hour on six ten, double
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  Speaker 1: the UTV and talking about the Ohio the Ohio Supreme
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  Speaker 1: Court overruling an appellate court after Status U one was
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  Speaker 1: passed by the legislature signed by the governor became the
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  Speaker 1: law of the land. The appellate Court said, we're going
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  Speaker 1: to hold off on this thing. There's some legal challenges
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  Speaker 1: and so it's not going to be enforced. The Supreme Court,
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  Speaker 1: by a four to three vote, has overridden the appellate Court.
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  Speaker 1: The legal challenges will go on, the constitutionality will be determined,
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  Speaker 1: but in the meantime it will be the law. It
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  Speaker 1: will be enforced. And that law is, among other things,
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  Speaker 1: most prominently is that the miners minor children under the
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  Speaker 1: age of eighteen cannot go in for what they call
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  Speaker 1: gender affirming care, hormonal treatments and any surgeries and all
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  Speaker 1: this kind of stuff is out of bounds until you
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  Speaker 1: turn eighteen, until you were legal adult, until you can
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  Speaker 1: make those sorts of decisions. I agree.
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  Speaker 2: I just think one thing real quick, that we should
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  Speaker 2: switch topics because nobody wants to talk about I.
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  Speaker 1: Can see that nobody wants to talk about it, just
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  Speaker 1: but from the all things flashing in front of me.
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  Speaker 1: I have some moldi bread but identifies as rye, so
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  Speaker 1: it's it's okay you ever eat moldy bread. I've done
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  Speaker 1: that before. I think I have. I used to like
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  Speaker 1: just pick him round it when I was poor. You
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  Speaker 1: know what, I made a sandwich in the dark one
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  Speaker 1: time years ago.
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  Speaker 2: And did not describe why you are the way you are.
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  Speaker 1: Some don't taste right back to right here, taste better
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  Speaker 1: eight two night number eightwo ONETV And lots of folks
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  Speaker 1: want to chime in, so let's take them in the
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  Speaker 1: order in which they went on Whole Debbie or on
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  Speaker 1: the Legacy Retirement Group dot com phone lines.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, hey, Chuck, It's always good to hear your voice.
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  Speaker 1: Man, always good to hear from you too.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, you can read the phone book to me and
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  Speaker 2: I'd be happy. Hey, listen, sir, I agree with you
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  Speaker 2: so much on the gender of firming care. But there's
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  Speaker 2: another thing. There's other parts to this bill that are
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  Speaker 2: just kind of going by the wayside, and I think
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  Speaker 2: that's why certain communities and people are upset about. And
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  Speaker 2: that's I mean, I agree, no child and nobody in
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  Speaker 2: my circle of friends that have kids that are gay
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  Speaker 2: or whatever and whatever allow their kids to make a
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  Speaker 2: decision to mutilate their body under the age of eighteen
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  Speaker 2: or whatever. How they will let them be whoever they
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  Speaker 2: want to be. Identified has and I've got I've got
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  Speaker 2: great great great great nieces and nephews, and some of
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  Speaker 2: them kind of identify differently than you know, like male
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  Speaker 2: or female. And it's like, wow, that's okay, you are right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm fine. And their parents they would never allow their
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  Speaker 2: children to and I agree with that part of this bill.
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  Speaker 1: But there's those things in it. That's why I said,
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  Speaker 1: among other things, if you had to pick something out,
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  Speaker 1: because this is what's going to get all the headlines, Debbie,
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  Speaker 1: but what is the top of the list of the
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  Speaker 1: other things that aren't getting any play that you think
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  Speaker 1: are important.
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  Speaker 2: That if a child identify and let's say, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Billy suddenly wants to be I don't know, a girl's
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  Speaker 2: named Babbitt and he wants to you got to kind
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  Speaker 2: of go with that with easy, easy go there. You can't.
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  Speaker 2: It's just it's not a willy nilly thing. You got
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  Speaker 2: to let the child be at least ten, eleven, twelve
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  Speaker 2: years old ago. You really got to think about this
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  Speaker 2: because you're going to get slapped in the face a
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  Speaker 2: million times, knocked on your ass a million times. And
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  Speaker 2: then there are children, Chuck, And this is the other
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  Speaker 2: aspect I was talking about earlier with your producer there.
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  Speaker 1: Try not to talk to him too much because it's
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  Speaker 1: it gets kind of frightening after a while.
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  Speaker 2: There are children that are born human, children born as aphrodites,
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  Speaker 2: and I wonder about this a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, that is absolutely a question.
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  Speaker 2: And then the doctor might make the decision without consulting
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  Speaker 2: to the parents, say what do you want me to
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  Speaker 2: do or with your child? And the parent will say, well,
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  Speaker 2: we'll just go with this or with that, And it
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  Speaker 2: could be that genetically inside that human being, they the doctor,
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  Speaker 2: the parent made.
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  Speaker 1: The wrong, take the wrong. I'm on that. I'm absolutely
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  Speaker 1: with you. If you are born with both sets of organs,
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  Speaker 1: you know, there's a toss up and a chromosomal test
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  Speaker 1: I think probably needs to be done before any physical
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  Speaker 1: action is taken for a child like that.
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  Speaker 3: Correct.
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  Speaker 1: Now, if little Johnny, if little Johnny decides he wants
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  Speaker 1: to be little Jenny, you know what if he wants
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  Speaker 1: to call himself Jenny, that's fine, but I don't think that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, his fellow students should face repercussions because they've
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  Speaker 1: known Johnny for four years. Suddenly he wants to be Jenny.
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  Speaker 1: Don't suspend some kid because they can't do the Jenny thing,
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  Speaker 1: and don't force it. Don't force anybody else. But let
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  Speaker 1: him be who he wants to be, if that's what
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  Speaker 1: he wants to call himself.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. I've got friends that I've known for forty years,
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  Speaker 2: some of them I hadn't seen in quite a few
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  Speaker 2: and then they've come back into my life and I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: what And I'm supposed to call them by a different
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  Speaker 2: gender and there's still the person they were to me.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter, you know.
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  Speaker 1: It's difficult.
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  Speaker 2: Look, I can't get used to calling you that. When
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  Speaker 2: I talk about you, I'm gonna because I'm talking about
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  Speaker 2: the olden days and stuff. It's hard for me.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, You've got to people just.
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  Speaker 2: Take life too seriously about all this stuff.
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  Speaker 1: You've got to turn off your memory, and that's that's
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  Speaker 1: hard for people to do. Debbie. That's the whole basis
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  Speaker 1: of a relationship is the memories you share with somebody,
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  Speaker 1: and and if you. If you have to turn that off,
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  Speaker 1: it's difficult. I've shared the story before, a friend of
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  Speaker 1: mine in this business, in the radio business, who decided
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  Speaker 1: to uh to uh, you know, have surgery and appear
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  Speaker 1: as close to female as he. I guess he thought
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  Speaker 1: he could. I never thought it was relatively or overwhelming
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  Speaker 1: and convincing quite frankly, but I knew him for years
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  Speaker 1: as him, and even when we were out to lunch
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  Speaker 1: or whatever, I would say, Oh, yeah, he's just kidding.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't. I couldn't say she. I wasn't being disrespectful,
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to hurt his see his feelings. But
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  Speaker 1: he had always been him to me and to to
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  Speaker 1: look at me. Oh, that's that's hate speeds. That's no,
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  Speaker 1: it's not, no, it's not it's years of memories with somebody,
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  Speaker 1: and and to ask me to reprogram everything I know
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  Speaker 1: to be my reality because of you wanting to change yours.
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  Speaker 1: I'm that's just that's not acceptable to me. A too
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  Speaker 1: an if you're on six.
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  Speaker 3: First of all, I want to say thank you to
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  Speaker 3: six' ten for letting me air my. Laundry CONCERNING Pbs
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  Speaker 3: kid's target ad with little, children dancing around AN lgbtq.
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  Speaker 1: Flag NOW i haven't seen that.
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  Speaker 3: One they pulled that ad off The Columbus KIDS pbs
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  Speaker 3: three days AFTER i put that on the air on your.
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  Speaker 3: Station SO i want to say thank. You and by the,
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  Speaker 3: way it's my hope and The trump's administration hope that
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  Speaker 3: we pull one point three billion dollars in funding TO
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  Speaker 3: npr AND pbs because of their queer. Agenda now onto
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  Speaker 3: WHAT i called about about twenty minutes. Ago you spark
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  Speaker 3: some brain cells on my. Wife she, says why is
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  Speaker 3: your brother? Homosexual AND i, said, well what's your favorite?
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  Speaker 3: Color she says. PINK i, says, WELL i don't care for.
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  Speaker 3: PINK i kind of like, purple and so that was a.
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  Speaker 3: Choice so, well why did your brother then go on
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  Speaker 3: to molest children and end up going to? Prison AND i, said,
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  Speaker 3: WELL i used to blame my parents for that because
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  Speaker 3: they didn't straighten his head, out and if he had gone,
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  Speaker 3: straight he perhaps wouldn't have molested those. Children and that
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  Speaker 3: comes to this.
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  Speaker 1: Point do you really think the sexuality had anything to
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  Speaker 1: do with the? PERVERSION i, mean i'd gay and pervert
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  Speaker 1: don't equate with.
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  Speaker 2: Me.
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  Speaker 3: Choice my mother wrote a book Called. Choices it's also a.
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  Speaker 3: Play it's world. Famous it's Called. Choices and these are
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  Speaker 3: choices that people make in. Life and everybody wants to
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  Speaker 3: push the fact that it's, biological and it really is.
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  Speaker 3: Not it's about choices that you. Make do you choose
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  Speaker 3: to rob the store down the street when the other guy?
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  Speaker 3: Doesn't these these are life's decisions and life's. Choices and
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  Speaker 3: some of the answers are very. Difficult AND i, Said,
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  Speaker 3: tobi wife has, said, damn you asked really good. Questions
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  Speaker 3: AND i started down the well they used to say
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  Speaker 3: it was biological and all, that AND i, said that's
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  Speaker 3: WHEN i, said, well what's your favorite? Color we're right
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  Speaker 3: back to.
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  Speaker 1: That that's that whole. Thing And, Jeff i'm gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to run, here but that whole, that the biology versus
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  Speaker 1: choice thing has. Been that means since the, beginning that's
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  Speaker 1: been a TOPIC ofod. Conversation i'll be, HONEST i, MEAN
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  Speaker 1: i can't answer either. Way i've known many people men
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  Speaker 1: who were extremely, feminine even as you know children and
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  Speaker 1: women who were extremely. MASCULINE i don't, KNOW i really,
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  Speaker 1: don't BUT i definitely don't equite the you, know being
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  Speaker 1: being gay with being a. PERVERT i THINK i don't
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  Speaker 1: care if you're heterosexual or. Not you heard a Child
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  Speaker 1: you're garbage as far As i'm. Concerned, pete we'll have
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  Speaker 1: to make it. Quick you're on six Wtvn.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, WELL i agree with every thing that you said
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  Speaker 4: tonight about the child therapy and so. Forth but actually
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  Speaker 4: the Reason i'm calling in is because at the beginning
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  Speaker 4: you said about cities that are mispronounced Like, lancaster for,
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  Speaker 4: example or pronounced different. Ways excuse, me, SO i work
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  Speaker 4: for an internet. COMPANY i talked to people around the
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  Speaker 4: country and this one intrigues. Me there is a city
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  Speaker 4: in our town In, nevada excuse, me In, iowa but
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  Speaker 4: instead of pronouncing It, nevada they pronounced It.
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  Speaker 1: Neveda, yeah we have In neveda here In ohio, too
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  Speaker 1: up north Of Delaware, county believe it or. Not we
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  Speaker 1: used to have A british lady that called as SHE
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  Speaker 1: i don't know if she's still. Around phyllis called herself
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  Speaker 1: phil From. NEVADA i used to love hearing from.
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  Speaker 3: Her