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9-01-26 Hour 2 - Navigating the Jonathon Cooper situation/SEC vs LSU/Joe Sakic joins the show · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is Mosher Lombardi and Kane On Demand. Listen live
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: I want to go back to something that Vic said
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  Speaker 3: that I think does matter. There's a whole bunch of
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  Speaker 3: anomalies the last season. that were just not normal. The
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  Speaker 3: amount of comebacks that the Broncos made in the fourth quarter,
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  Speaker 3: the amount of games that you were trailing in, and
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  Speaker 3: to have a record of 14-3, well, how did you
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  Speaker 3: do that without getting turnovers defensively, being pretty bad on
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  Speaker 3: third down, have a sputtering offense? 29th in the league
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  Speaker 3: and three and out rate. All of these things lead
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  Speaker 3: to like, how did you get to 14 last year?
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  Speaker 2: How did you do it? Exactly right. Because when you
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  Speaker 2: look at the indicators, Vic, of a good football team,
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  Speaker 2: a really good team, you didn't have a lot of
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  Speaker 2: them going your way.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But you did it and you squeaked things out. And again,
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  Speaker 2: you had some teams deliver things to you like Amazon package, gifts,
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  Speaker 2: You also earned a lot of your stuff late, too,
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  Speaker 2: but it was a really– you'll never see a season
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  Speaker 2: like it again. I'm pretty damn sure of that.
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  Speaker 3: The question now becomes, like, do you believe in the
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  Speaker 3: reasons for why things can change for the better? Do
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  Speaker 3: you think that, hey, the defense can force more turnovers
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  Speaker 3: and you can be better on third down?
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  Speaker 2: Or do you.
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  Speaker 3: Believe in some of the stuff from last year was like,
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  Speaker 3: man– Can you continue to have the comebacks that you
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  Speaker 3: did late in games? Can you continue to make the
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  Speaker 3: right play at the right time? You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: It's really odd, and I think that's why Vegas has
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  Speaker 3: a hard time setting the over-under for the Broncos. They
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  Speaker 3: set it at 9.5 for a team that won 14 games.
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  Speaker 3: They're as confused as anybody.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what I think is weird about
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  Speaker 2: that number, Vittorio, is that when that line was set
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  Speaker 2: months ago, it hasn't moved. So that means if you–
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  Speaker 2: I would be optimistic. I think they're going to win
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  Speaker 2: more than 9.5 games. I think they're back into double digits.
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  Speaker 2: Probably like– I feel like 11 would be pretty good. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That being said, there are people out there with their
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  Speaker 2: own money who are clearly betting on the under because
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  Speaker 2: that's why that thing is not moving from 9.5 to
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  Speaker 2: 10 or 10.5. People are betting the under, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: going– Man, I guess half of the betting public doesn't
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  Speaker 2: really believe in the Denver Broncos at all. Well, you're
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  Speaker 2: riding a roller coaster. I mean, there are a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people that, as.
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  Speaker 5: You just assessed, Brett, you think last year was a
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  Speaker 5: little bit of a lucky draw, whatever you want to say.
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  Speaker 5: And luck works both ways in my mind. I think
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  Speaker 5: it's fortunate, or call it whatever you want, to have
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  Speaker 5: such a strong defense and not produce turnovers. What if
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  Speaker 5: the defense isn't as strong? What if they give up
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  Speaker 5: more yards, but they produce more turnovers?
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  Speaker 2: Guess what? You'll get the same results. Yeah, I'd be
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  Speaker 2: cool with that. So let's say this.
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  Speaker 5: Defense per game gives up, I don't know, 20 more
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  Speaker 5: yards per game. Gives up three more points per game.
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  Speaker 5: But also produces one more turnover per game.
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  Speaker 2: I'll take that.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I would. I still think there's... I just have
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  Speaker 3: this feeling the defense, even if they get more turnovers,
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  Speaker 3: I think that It's going to be really hard to
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  Speaker 3: replicate what they did, especially early last year, which puts
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  Speaker 3: a lot of this on the offense to figure things out. Now, again,
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  Speaker 3: a big part of your defense is your pass rush
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  Speaker 3: and Jonathan Cooper and everything else. Now, you said you
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  Speaker 3: had the leggy sound from Crackman Lindahl yesterday explaining what
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  Speaker 3: this court case and the commissioner's exemplars means.
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  Speaker 4: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 6: The league has leaned, not always, but they have leaned
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  Speaker 6: in the past to make not issuing a suspension before
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  Speaker 6: the legal matter was cleared up because they did not
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  Speaker 6: want to be accused of influencing a potential jury pool or,
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  Speaker 6: you know, by suspending a player before the legal process
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  Speaker 6: had concluded. He can be around the team, he can
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  Speaker 6: go to meetings and everything, but he can't practice and
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  Speaker 6: he can't play in games. And ultimately, the NFL... We'll
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  Speaker 6: decide how long he's on that list. If he's removed
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  Speaker 6: from that list due to a suspension, then that's one way.
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  Speaker 6: Or the other way is the legal matter is settled
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  Speaker 6: before then.
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  Speaker 3: So that's, I guess what we're looking at is maybe
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  Speaker 3: the NFL put him on the exempt list until they
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  Speaker 3: had this initial part of the trial taken care of, right?
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  Speaker 3: And now that they have an actual court date, maybe
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  Speaker 3: now the NFL says, okay, you can participate until the
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  Speaker 3: court date happens. Could be.
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  Speaker 2: You know, that's something we could find out this week. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: for sure.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, again, his trial is set for the 10th
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  Speaker 3: of November is the start date.
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  Speaker 2: And that's expedited, too. Usually these take a lot longer.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's halfway through the year. That's after week nine.
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  Speaker 2: Are you saying, then, that having it at the start
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  Speaker 2: of November is a good thing for the Broncos? Like
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  Speaker 2: they'll peel him off the exempt list and let him
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  Speaker 2: play until.
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  Speaker 3: I think if he's available for the first six games,
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  Speaker 3: that stretch is probably better than... You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: It could be good or bad, though. You could play
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  Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden not play.
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  Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing, though. The NFL can do what
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  Speaker 3: they want, I suppose. If he goes to this trial,
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  Speaker 3: let's say this happens. They take him off the exempt
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  Speaker 3: list and they say, until your trial, you're going to
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  Speaker 3: be able to play. And then we'll make another decision
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  Speaker 3: after your trial is done. If he is found not guilty...
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  Speaker 3: then I don't see why you would punish him. If
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  Speaker 3: he is found guilty, then he's probably going to prison
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  Speaker 3: and that takes care of itself.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm looking at, this is not a jaywalking ticket.
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  Speaker 3: No, this is a felony. Like, this is a big deal.
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  Speaker 2: This is felony, you know, second degree assault by strangulation.
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  Speaker 2: Three misdemeanors include violating the protection order. This is, these are,
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  Speaker 2: These are serious charges, man.
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  Speaker 3: Like Josh Jacobs is on this list. He's dealing with
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  Speaker 3: the same thing in green.
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  Speaker 2: Bay, but his, the other one that he's a misdemeanor guy,
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  Speaker 2: not a felony guy.
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  Speaker 3: The other one that's super bizarre is that Terry on
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  Speaker 3: Arnold got signed by the Seahawks. And now he's on
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  Speaker 3: the commissioner's exempt list. I'm just, I don't, I don't
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  Speaker 3: know how that works. I mean, he's facing, yes, it's
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  Speaker 3: a felony, but it's a felony that carries like 10,
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  Speaker 3: 15 years in jail. Like that's, that's even different from
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  Speaker 3: the Cooper one. So I don't know. Um, Bottom line is,
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  Speaker 3: the Broncos are going to have some challenges, I think,
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  Speaker 3: this year of things last year that were hard to replicate.
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  Speaker 3: Can you do that again? Or can you make up
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  Speaker 3: those margins by just improving in areas where you were
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  Speaker 3: bad last year, like turnovers and third down percentage? That
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  Speaker 3: stuff matters. Now, I have another question. We opened up
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  Speaker 3: the show comparing the Broncos and the Dolphins and dead money.
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  Speaker 3: You guys missed it. The Miami Dolphins are paying $ 181
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  Speaker 3: million for guys not to play on the roster. 181 million.
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  Speaker 5: That's just massive malfunction of personnel.
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  Speaker 3: They have one singular player that makes over $ 7 million
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  Speaker 3: against the cap.
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  Speaker 6: One guy.
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  Speaker 3: So here's my question. I know we all have these
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  Speaker 3: debates of like, is the cap real? Is it not
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  Speaker 3: real in the NFL? Well, for the Dolphins, it's very real.
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  Speaker 3: They can't afford anybody. How have the Rams, who have
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  Speaker 3: just spent money for a decade straight, Just find $ 20
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  Speaker 3: million under a couch cushion to give to Aaron Donald
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  Speaker 3: this year?
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  Speaker 2: How did that happen?
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  Speaker 5: Maybe we did a few contracts and, you know, did
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  Speaker 5: the old, we'll give you a signing bonus if you
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  Speaker 5: push it down the road.
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  Speaker 2: They just keep kicking the can down the road. Think
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  Speaker 2: about this.
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  Speaker 3: Since 2021, just off the top of my head, not
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  Speaker 3: even looking this up, they've traded for Stafford, giving him
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  Speaker 3: a giant contract.
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  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 3: They've traded for Jalen Ramsey. They've traded for Vaughn Miller.
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  Speaker 3: They've traded for Devontae Adams. They've traded for Miles Garrett.
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  Speaker 3: They've now brought Aaron Donald back. They've traded for Trent McDuffie.
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  Speaker 2: How many people.
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  Speaker 3: Can you trade for and sign to big contracts and
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  Speaker 3: still afford them?
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  Speaker 5: But they've also gotten off a lot of money, too.
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  Speaker 5: They got off Cooper Cupp's contract. They got off Jalen
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  Speaker 5: Ramsey's contract.
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  Speaker 2: They got off.
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  Speaker 5: There's a lot of contracts. Vaughn Miller's contract. There's contracts
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  Speaker 5: that they've gone through and said, okay. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, what do you mean, yeah? There's give and
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  Speaker 2: take there.
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  Speaker 3: When you're kind of pressed up against the cap at
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  Speaker 3: the end of your 53-man cut-down day and they're like,
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  Speaker 3: here's $ 20 million for this guy.
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  Speaker 2: I don't understand.
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  Speaker 5: But did you see how this contract is incentivized? It's
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  Speaker 5: an incentivized contract as well. It's not just $ 20 million
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  Speaker 5: up front, here you go, guaranteed. There's a lot of
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  Speaker 5: incentive in this contract. There's an incentive if they win
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  Speaker 5: the Super Bowl. How does that work?
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  Speaker 3: How does that work, by the way? where you have
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  Speaker 3: incentives in a contract. So a guy will make, if he,
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  Speaker 3: let's say you get five sacks, you make an extra
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  Speaker 3: $ 3 million.
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  Speaker 7: Sure.
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  Speaker 3: What if you don't have $ 3 million within the cap
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  Speaker 3: range right there, but somebody hits the incentive, then what happens?
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  Speaker 2: I think you have to have that available. So it
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  Speaker 2: has to be available. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Gotcha.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe Les Snead really is that good. He's certainly good. Maybe,
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  Speaker 2: maybe Les Snead really is. He's been there for what?
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  Speaker 2: 14 years or more. He's been around the block. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: he really is that that good and by the way
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  Speaker 2: if i was in the ramp situation and i had
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  Speaker 2: matt stafford as my quarterback still at an advanced age
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  Speaker 2: but still very very good mvp i'd be going for
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  Speaker 2: it too oh sure i would be i would question
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  Speaker 2: i would be what's up garrett yeah well we'll do
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  Speaker 2: that and what's up with uh I would be doing
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  Speaker 2: the same thing.
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  Speaker 3: Just a lot of money out there.
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  Speaker 2: A lot.
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  Speaker 5: How?
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  Speaker 2: And they move up. It's different.
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  Speaker 3: Like most, we all know this in basketball and baseball
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  Speaker 3: and hockey. If you sign somebody to a deal, that's like,
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  Speaker 3: if you sign a Rendon or you sign a Chris
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  Speaker 3: Bryant contract or, or whatever, or you sign a Ben
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  Speaker 3: Simmons contract, sorry. Like, there's no, let me move some
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  Speaker 3: of this money, convert it to a signing bonus, do this,
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  Speaker 3: do that.
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  Speaker 6: We need a full season of KB.
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  Speaker 2: That's just what it is. But I mean, they got,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how they're doing it. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: how they get McDuffie and Garrett and Donald comes back.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, I don't know, man. I can talk about
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  Speaker 2: that team all day if you'd like me to. I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to, but that's on paper the best team
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  Speaker 2: in football right now. I don't know how they do it.
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  Speaker 2: But what I do know is if If you're the
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  Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins, and people down there in Miami, I guess
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  Speaker 2: they have some good fans, Vic, but they're pretty laid
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  Speaker 2: back anyway. You know, it's a pretty apathetic fan base anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Eat your peas right now. I hate peas, by the way.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like peas. If it's like in a pot pie,
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  Speaker 2: I can disguise it enough.
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  Speaker 3: You don't strike me as a green guy. You don't
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  Speaker 3: seem like you like a lot of foods that are green.
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  Speaker 3: I like a good plum, which is purple. That's not green.
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  Speaker 2: No, but I'm saying if you just rip the band-aid now.
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  Speaker 3: You might like green M & Ms. The occasional green Skittle.
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  Speaker 2: Again, I don't know how insulting me is going to
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  Speaker 2: make this a better program.
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  Speaker 7: Boy, that had real family feud energy. Like Fast Money Round.
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  Speaker 7: Name a fruit that's green. Or name a food that's green.
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  Speaker 8: Plums!
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  Speaker 4: Plums!
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  Speaker 2: And we got to do that before the start of the.
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  Speaker 5: We got 13 days, man.
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  Speaker 4: We got to do it.
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  Speaker 2: This is a desert now. We got to get that in.
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  Speaker 2: When was the last time we played the feud? I
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  Speaker 2: think the last time we played, we won rather handily.
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  Speaker 7: I think you guys played it during the bye week
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  Speaker 7: before the playoffs began for the Broncos.
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  Speaker 2: I think we killed it. It's been that long? That's
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  Speaker 2: been like seven months? Did we do the feud?
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  Speaker 3: Because wasn't that the same week we did the Moshies?
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  Speaker 2: Or maybe?
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  Speaker 3: It was a packed week.
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  Speaker 7: I could have sworn we did the feud in there.
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  Speaker 2: We can look.
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  Speaker 7: But the point is, it has been a while. I
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  Speaker 7: don't know if we had a good summer feud.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Vic, 20 seconds on the clock. Name a green food
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  Speaker 3: that Mosher likes.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know the color green. Oh, that's right, you're defective.
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  Speaker 3: Apple? There's a green apple, yeah. It's funny, I just
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  Speaker 3: went to the grocery store yesterday. Green apples are better.
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  Speaker 3: I'll die on that hill. I like them better.
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  Speaker 2: I bought a bag of the green Granny Smith apples.
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  Speaker 2: Like a little tart, a little tart. Yeah, I bought
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  Speaker 2: the bag of green Granny Smith apples.
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  Speaker 3: You know what my wife does now that we have children?
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  Speaker 3: She buys green apples, and she does her own little
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  Speaker 3: chocolate-dipped green apple. Oh, my God, it's the greatest thing.
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  Speaker 2: Green apples are disgusting. What? You disgust me. Well, they
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  Speaker 2: could be. You have the taste buds. Timberwolf. They could
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  Speaker 2: be great. You don't even know what color they are.
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  Speaker 2: I am an authority on apples.
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  Speaker 5: I guarantee no one on this show right here has
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  Speaker 5: eaten more apples than I have.
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  Speaker 2: No one. It ain't even close. I'm sure there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of things you've eaten more than we have over
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  Speaker 2: the years.
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  Speaker 3: Hang on.
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  Speaker 4: Straw pole. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Text green or red.
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  Speaker 2: Green or red to 303-504-0925.
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  Speaker 3: Well, they're both good.
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  Speaker 2: They're both good. You want the red. They're both good,
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  Speaker 2: but I like the green. You want red for apple pie.
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  Speaker 2: I like the green. We want red for apple pie.
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  Speaker 2: I like a little tart. I like that. I'll bring
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  Speaker 2: you green apples tomorrow. It's not supposed to be that way, dude.
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  Speaker 2: It's not. What's not?
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  Speaker 5: Tart.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever the hell that flavor is. It's tart.
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  Speaker 3: Green apples are tart.
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  Speaker 2: Tart's a perfect word for it. And that's not supposed
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  Speaker 2: to be a flavor of an apple. It's still sweet.
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  Speaker 2: I think green apples are awesome. Especially out of the fridge,
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  Speaker 2: like on a hot day. Oh, God, just perfect, right?
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  Speaker 2: Like one of those kind of deals, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly right.
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  Speaker 2: For real. By the way, do you have a pattern
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  Speaker 2: with which you eat your apple? If you don't.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: You're not American.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Of course.
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  Speaker 2: The problem is I bite the middle, then I turn
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  Speaker 2: it sideways, and I use the bottom.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, that's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: That's crazy. You sort of forklift that sucker up there.
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  Speaker 2: That's crazy. What are you talking about? I eat the middle,
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  Speaker 2: just one bite, and then I turn it sideways, and
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  Speaker 2: then I pry the bottom of the apple off.
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  Speaker 3: You very simply, you go right down the middle, you
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  Speaker 3: create a train track. You create the train track, and
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  Speaker 3: then I go on top.
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  Speaker 2: I go on top, the top half first. Yomp, yomp, yomp, yomp.
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  Speaker 2: Then bottom. I work it side by side. I work
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  Speaker 2: each side. Top to bottom. You know, I do not
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  Speaker 2: trust you.
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  Speaker 5: If you're an apple eater that just chomps all over
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  Speaker 5: the place with no pattern, get out of my life.
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  Speaker 2: I have a pattern. It's just different than your pattern.
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  Speaker 4: Get out of my life.
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  Speaker 2: So here's Mosher, Vic.
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  Speaker 3: Here's Mosher.
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  Speaker 2: He's got his apple. He's going like this.
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  Speaker 3: One bite here, and then he goes.
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  Speaker 8: No.
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  Speaker 2: No. You can't throw bites all over the place, dude.
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  Speaker 2: You can't be throwing bites all over. If there's no
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  Speaker 2: order to your apple eating, you are disorderly. You belong
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  Speaker 2: in jail. How about those animals that like eat a
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  Speaker 2: burrito in the middle? Now that's an animal.
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  Speaker 3: You're essentially doing the same thing just in reverse with
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  Speaker 3: the apple. That you would bite an apple vertically is
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  Speaker 3: the most insane thing I've ever heard in my life.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know, man. A green apple in caramel sauce,
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: like dipping it in caramel sauce. I don't need the caramel.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: I just want the chocolate.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: Well, if you're at the fair and a caramel apple
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: is a green apple, better caramel apple.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: I'm not a big caramel apple guy.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: That means you're a jerk. Angry Bronco said the same thing.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: Corn on the cob.
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: Same method.
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: You orderly, in an orderly fashion, you circular down the row,
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: down the row until you get to the end.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: No.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: There's no like biting here and there like you're some
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: sort of bird. You come down.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: It's like a typewriter.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: You do a typewriter. You don't go around the corner.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: You do a typewriter. That is correct. That's the perfect
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: way to do it.
• 16:37
  Speaker 7: Actually, here's my routine that I use for eating both
• 16:40
  Speaker 7: apples and corn.
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: I do hair and face. neck, left pit, chest, right pit, arm, arm, scrotum.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: I'm out. Yeah, just go.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: Oh, God. All right, hang on.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: Relax.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: This is one of my favorite songs of all time. Okay.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: So... Here is, at least for me, one of the
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: funnier things that you can ever get. When you're a proud,
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: proud organization, and you need to conjure up some BS excuses. Like,
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: we all saw what took place last weekend when USC
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: opened up their season against San Jose State, did so
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: at home, and nobody showed up. For the home opener,
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: season opener. the USC football season, they felt like they
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: had to put out a statement as to why it
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: looked the way it did. They said, we understand the
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: factors that impacted Saturday's attendance. We have high expectations for
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: the Coliseum, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. There were several
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: factors at play as to why USC didn't have a
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: packed stadium, with the obvious one being the weather. The
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: game took place in what has been a brutal stretch
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: of temperatures in Southern California with much higher than usual humidity,
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: worsening the effects outside.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: The U.S.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: National Weather Service issued an extreme heat advisory in Los
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: Angeles region that day. It didn't help that the game
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: also kicked off at noon local time with the temperature
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: of 94 degrees. The real field temperature was 104, according
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: to AccuWeather. Mix that and the limited shade inside the
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: stadium and it made for a rough day. Limited shade.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: at the game for fans.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's say those exact same conditions existed in Baton Rouge.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: Hey, SoCal, SoCal, let me tell you something right now.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: We've been under a heat advisory for the last four
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: straight months here in Denver.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Have you stepped outside? It's hot. Every day, it's hot.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: You're just cooking.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Does your fans want to go to the games or not?
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: That's the question.
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: It's just not a good college sports town. It's a
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: good college sports event town. When USC was rolling and
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: they had Pete Carroll and it was like Hollywood, sure.
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: But on a normal basis, it's not a good college
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: sports town.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: And there's nothing to be ashamed of.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: It's L.A.
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: I mean, 13 million people just to move 13 blocks
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: takes a half hour.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: I've been there many times. My daughter lives there. I
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: wouldn't want to drive across town when it takes that long.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: But, but, but, but, but. Vic, you went to college
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: in the Midwest. I'm from the Midwest. That humidity is different.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: It's a different animal. And South Bend, Indiana will be
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: full when Notre Dame plays.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: It'll be full for anything.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: Lincoln, Nebraska will be full when they play.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: On that game day.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Of course.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: Of course.
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: I mean, but that's, again, not to bring apples back
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: into the conversation.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: It's not apples to apples there. It's just not. You're
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: talking about college towns. South Bend's a college town. Tuscaloosa's
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: a college town. Lincoln is a college town.
• 20:06
  Speaker 8: L.A.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Is not. And there's nothing to be ashamed of there.
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: I mean, they're getting all up in their feels because
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: people are saying it's not a college town.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: It's not.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: The Coliseum, it's a pro sports city. It's an event city.
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: So to compare USC football with any of those other institutions,
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: you're going to lose that battle every time.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: USC's not a– it's a great football program. It's not
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: a football school. You'd think that they should be better
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: than they are all the time because the past is
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: the past. They were really, really good at times. UCLA
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: has got even the worst problem. You see they just
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: fired their AD?
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Under his watch, they're running a $ 241 million deficit.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: I've wondered, you know, people bring those numbers up. I
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: don't know what the numbers are. I think the number's
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: only like, it's something crazy, like 10%. That might even
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: be high. Like 10% of colleges turn a profit with
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: their college athletics programs.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: It's not a lot.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: Like, it costs these schools money to run these.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're getting some of that Big Ten money now.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, you're getting Big Ten money. Yeah. Which ain't quite,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: I guess it ain't quite as good as SEC money,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: but it's right there. I mean, you're getting Big Ten
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: money now, not Pac-12 that's now gone.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: Speaking of, we are officially two days away from CU
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: opening up their season against Georgia Tech and Georgia Tech. Yeah.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Educate me. Educate me on what to look for. Well, okay.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: I was just bringing that up because this is the
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: opening weekend of college football.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Not week zero.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: The opening weekend for everybody, right? And I see this
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: come across my timeline yesterday from Ross Dellinger. SEC school
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: executives are exploring extreme measures in order to address LSU's
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: attempts to add former professional players. Potential measures would include
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: boycotting competition, sanctioning the school with probation, or expulsion... and
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: filing a federal legal challenge. The games start in four days,
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: five days, whatever. You're not kicking LSU out of the SEC.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: How is this not fixed by now? The season's about
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: to start.
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: And Lane Kiffin says he had a meeting with his team,
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: and the team says, yeah, it's okay.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Let's bring these guys in, it'll make us better. It's
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: not about making you better, dude. Quit being selfish. It's
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: not about making you better.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: It's about.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: The game. It's about the rules of the game. The
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: rules of engagement. You can't do that. Quit being selfish.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin is the most selfish coach in football.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: That is true.
• 22:52
  Speaker 8: Yes.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Always been that way. Now, is this the new thing,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: by the way? If somebody is doing something that.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: College football as a whole doesn't like, Do you just
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: threaten to boycott competition in every sport? Is that the
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: new thing? Because remember, that's what they did with Texas
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Tech when they were trying to bring Sorsby over there.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: They're like, if you have Sorsby on your roster, then
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: we just won't play you in any sport ever.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: You know what I'd like to do? It's about doing
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: the recourse you have. Yeah, I'd like to get a
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: magnifying glass and look in the orifices of Georgia and Alabama.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, you're going to find stuff everywhere. Sure. And
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: so if I'm them, I'm going to go, well, you
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: guys are doing this too. I just, I would... I
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: told you the thing is... Throw it back at him. Listen,
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's right.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: Well, hold on.
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: Are you saying it's okay for LSU to bring three
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: or four pros in?
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: No, I am not saying that. But... No, I'm not
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: saying that at all. But when you have these other
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: schools or whatever threatening this one particular... I mean, come on. You're...
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: If your hands are completely clean of anything.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: Okay, fine, threaten. But I fail to believe that everybody's
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: hands are clean. I've told you, I think the biggest
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: change for me college football-wise, and I mean this because
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: there's been a lot of changes, a ton of them,
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: that have been pretty seismic within the sport. The biggest
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: thing for me is that, would you guys agree? For
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: the most part, even through these changes, conference realignment, all
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: these different things, college football still felt like college athletics,
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: I should say still felt like.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: A, a, a all moving unit.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Like they were all on the same page for the
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: most part. Like we're going to do some change, but
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: as long as we all kind of agree, then we're
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: cool with it. It feels so much more individualistic. Now
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: it feels like LSU and Lane Kiffin's out for himself
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: and Texas tech is out for themselves. And the sec
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: is out for their own conference and the big tens
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: out for their own conference and all these different things. Um, Okay,
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: so here's some good news. We're going to be joined
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: by Joe Sackick here in literally eight minutes. So that's
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: going to happen.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: What? Oh, my God. I know what he wants.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Stop everything. Everybody, stop the show.
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: For the first time in this show's existence, after, like,
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: being in a desert for three or four years.
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: Mark Mosier has actually booked a guest for this show. Because,
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: let it be known, let it be known, anytime there's
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: a guest on this show, 99% of the time, it's
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: booked by me. The other 1% of the time, it's
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: usually Brett calling his friend Windhorse.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: Never before in the history of the show has Mark
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: Mosier ever booked a guest and gotten a guest on
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: this program.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Until today. Well, these are my peeps, so I'm happy
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: to do it.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: So Joe Sackick is going to join us in just
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: a few minutes. So just with a couple minutes here.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: CU does play on Thursday. And if there's one thing, like,
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: can I just say this without knowing anything of what
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: to expect from either CU or Georgia Tech? Is it
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: fair to say CU offensively at the quarterback position should
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: feel like they're better prepared in week one than most
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: other teams in the country?
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Yes. That should be the thing.
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: What I'm most excited about this game, and by the way,
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: the Buffs are six and a half point dogs, which
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: isn't bad on the road at Georgia Tech.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: It's not bad at all.
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: I cannot wait to see this go-go offense. I want
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: to see it go-go. I want to see what it is.
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: I've heard so much about it. The Marion go-go offense.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: What does it do? What does it look like? Well,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: it looks so different that, like, whoa, my head will explode.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: I can't wait to see it in action.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: What?
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: When you have a quarterback. But Juju didn't play a
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: ton last year. But he played enough. I think he
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: played enough.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: You think it's enough?
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: When you have a quarterback that's returning to the same
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: system that got some playing time the year beforehand, you
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: should be a giant step forward above anybody else starting
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: their season. That's trying to figure things out on the fly.
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: Guys, I'm looking at all of the games on Thursday.
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: There's a bunch of games on Thursday. Every single game
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: on Thursday has a spread, a point spread, a line.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Let me see. Wake Forest-Akron, 24.5. Missouri, 53.5. Minnesota, 42.5.
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: And then you've got Georgia Tech-Colorado, 6.5. It's the only
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: single-digit spread on Thursday night, 12 games.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the next lowest one is Buffalo and Albany, where
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Buffalo's a 22.5-point favorite.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: It's basically the only game that's worth watching. What are
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: you saying, Vic? Albany? Albany's got a football team?
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: They do. Wow. UAlbany, the Great Danes.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: That is the upstate New York battle of the century there.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: Hey, Albany, show some respect.
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: They're 1-0.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: They beat New Hampshire last week.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, they beat... New Hampshire's got a football team?
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: What? Show some respect.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: They called me.
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: Kansas is favored by 39.5 over LIU Post.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: What in God's name is LIU Post?
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: They're obviously, Vic....
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Does anyone know what LIU Post is?
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: It's got to be Long Island University.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: What's Post? Post Grant? What's Post? Don't know.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it is.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: That's exactly what it is. It's Long Island University, formerly
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: the CW Post campus of Long Island.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: All right, let's make way Joe Sackick, who's fresh off
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: of signing his future Hall of Fame defenseman. He's going
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: to join us in just a couple of minutes. Stick around.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: All right, let's head out to the Ramos Law Hotline.
• 28:42
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• 28:45
  Speaker 3: We're joined by the man who just signed his player
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: to the richest contract in the history of the league.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: It is Joe Sakic. Joe, thank you for joining us.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: How are you doing this morning? I'm doing great.
• 28:55
  Speaker 8: How about you guys?
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Doing great. Hey, I sat at the back of the
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: room yesterday. You know me, I don't ask questions, but
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: I wanted to ask one, and I'll do it right now.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: As far as you being an executive in this league,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Have you ever had more of a no-brainer situation than
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: what you just went through with Cale McCarr and getting
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: this deal done?
• 29:15
  Speaker 8: No, I don't think. Well, yeah, when we had Nathan
• 29:18
  Speaker 8: came up a few years ago.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: They're equal, equal, yeah.
• 29:22
  Speaker 8: I mean, and those are the type of guys that
• 29:26
  Speaker 8: basically write their own ticket because they deserve it. And, no,
• 29:30
  Speaker 8: we're just really excited that Cale– I mean, we, both sides,
• 29:34
  Speaker 8: we are– Never wavered off eight years. We wanted the commitment.
• 29:38
  Speaker 8: He wanted the commitment. And so having that, uh, definitely helped, uh,
• 29:44
  Speaker 8: help the process.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: Uh, Joe, can you take me into the room for negotiations?
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: Was there a negotiation or is it, was it just
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: kind of like say the number and then I'll sign
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: the paper?
• 29:54
  Speaker 8: Uh, No, I mean, yeah, there's a negotiation, but when
• 29:59
  Speaker 8: you have two sides that want to get something done
• 30:01
  Speaker 8: and are on the same page, it's going to get done.
• 30:05
  Speaker 8: I mean, we've probably started mid-July really focusing on it,
• 30:10
  Speaker 8: and you see the numbers come in, and once other
• 30:13
  Speaker 8: contracts came in, we knew where it was heading, and
• 30:16
  Speaker 8: I just think the two sides wanted to get it
• 30:18
  Speaker 8: done and One of the eight years, and for us,
• 30:22
  Speaker 8: obviously it's a huge number, but it's a number that
• 30:24
  Speaker 8: we're excited to be paying. Cale, he's worth every penny,
• 30:28
  Speaker 8: and we have him for the next nine years. He'll
• 30:30
  Speaker 8: finish his career in Colorado, which was always the goal.
• 30:33
  Speaker 8: It's an exciting day for our organization, and obviously the
• 30:36
  Speaker 8: fans and the city. We've got to watch his dynamic.
• 30:40
  Speaker 8: One of the best defensemen ever. ever play the game.
• 30:46
  Speaker 8: You can really say that right now. So we're lucky
• 30:48
  Speaker 8: to have him here for the next nine years. It's
• 30:51
  Speaker 8: going to be a thrill to watch him wear the
• 30:53
  Speaker 8: Avalanche uniform.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Joe, congratulations on getting the deal done.
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: How busy have you been since McFarland left, and are
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: you ready to get some help in office, or are
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: you comfortable in that role right now?
• 31:06
  Speaker 8: No, we have a great staff, and I've just been
• 31:08
  Speaker 8: leaning a lot on Andrew Cogliano, who's really done a
• 31:10
  Speaker 8: great job, Kevin McDonald, Really, our whole staff has done
• 31:17
  Speaker 8: a great job. When he left, we had to get
• 31:20
  Speaker 8: ready for the draft, so we were busy with the
• 31:22
  Speaker 8: draft and free agency. Then summer happens, and really it
• 31:28
  Speaker 8: was trying to get Cale's contract done. Obviously, we'll continue
• 31:32
  Speaker 8: talking with Arturi. his representatives, but it's one of those
• 31:37
  Speaker 8: things that we start the season and see where that goes.
• 31:40
  Speaker 8: But it's always open dialogue, and then obviously our head
• 31:44
  Speaker 8: coach is in his last year as well.
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you talk about Luckin, and is that a negotiation?
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: Can that go throughout the season? Do you have a
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: deadline tap for that?
• 31:53
  Speaker 8: No, we don't have a deadline. It's open once the
• 31:55
  Speaker 8: season starts. We'll continue to talk and see where it goes.
• 32:00
  Speaker 8: But there's no urgency on either side. I think we're
• 32:03
  Speaker 8: both sides are comfortable just seeing how this plays out.
• 32:06
  Speaker 8: But we'd definitely like to have Arturi with our organization.
• 32:10
  Speaker 8: He's done a tremendous job.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting when you talk about one of
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: the best defensemen of all time. Joe, when he first
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: broke in, I mean, we could obviously see his talent
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: in the way he plays the game and his competitive
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: spirit and so on. But then as we get way
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: into his career here, and every time we put up
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: a graphic during the broadcast and whatnot, you know, the names,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: the Bobby Orr's are there, right? And the Chelios's are there.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: And it's just, I guess there comes a day we
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: have to recognize this is what we are witnessing. And
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: then 30 years from now, 50 years from now, people
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: will be talking about this guy, perhaps the way we've
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: talked about those guys for forever.
• 32:46
  Speaker 8: Well, absolutely. I mean, he's the standard right now for
• 32:49
  Speaker 8: this next generation. Quinn Hughes, there's a couple guys like that,
• 32:53
  Speaker 8: but the way Cale plays the game offensively, but also defensively.
• 32:58
  Speaker 8: I mean, he can hit, and he's responsible. He penalty
• 33:03
  Speaker 8: kills as well as power plays, so he brings a...
• 33:05
  Speaker 8: I mean, he's 30 minutes a night in every situation,
• 33:10
  Speaker 8: so we're lucky to have that, and I mean, if
• 33:12
  Speaker 8: you said, like, our generation, I guess it would have been,
• 33:15
  Speaker 8: you know, well, probably before me, Bobby Orr. You mentioned
• 33:18
  Speaker 8: his name. I mean, that was the standard. He set
• 33:21
  Speaker 8: the standard on how defensemen play the game. Then you
• 33:23
  Speaker 8: see Paul Coffey come along, and now Cale and these guys.
• 33:28
  Speaker 8: I mean, the talent just, what you're seeing out there
• 33:31
  Speaker 8: with these guys and how talented they are, how they
• 33:34
  Speaker 8: change the game, how they push the game, how they
• 33:37
  Speaker 8: make the game so much more exciting is pretty incredible.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: Joe Sackick with us. You mentioned, you know, coming back
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: into this role that you're playing now, other guys within
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: the front office helping a lot, taking on bigger roles.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: You mentioned Cagliano. Is he, Cagliano taking on a bigger role,
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: is he kind of being groomed for something bigger down
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: the line, or is he just doing his job now?
• 33:58
  Speaker 8: He's just doing a tremendous job. I mean, he's only been, what,
• 34:01
  Speaker 8: this is the third year, I believe?
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:03
  Speaker 8: And he's a tremendous worker. He loves the game. He's smart.
• 34:08
  Speaker 8: He's got a good feel. And having a guy like
• 34:11
  Speaker 8: that who's just recently retired is nice because he knows
• 34:14
  Speaker 8: the players of today a lot better than the rest
• 34:17
  Speaker 8: of us would. So he's just been a huge help.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, Vic. Joe, we keep hearing the cap is
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: going to go up. How sure are you of that?
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: And do you guys have like a concrete number of
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: what it's going to be and when it's going to be?
• 34:32
  Speaker 8: Well, from everything we're told, obviously revenues have to keep
• 34:37
  Speaker 8: going up. But the projection is, yeah, it's going to
• 34:40
  Speaker 8: go up. Well, what is it? It's going to go
• 34:43
  Speaker 8: to $ 113, 000, and we're hearing $ 120, 000 after that. It's probably
• 34:47
  Speaker 8: going to level off at some point, like it does.
• 34:49
  Speaker 8: But here in the next couple of years, it should
• 34:52
  Speaker 8: shoot up pretty good.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: I was going to ask you about... That's what we're
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: told anyways. Yeah. I was going to ask you real quick,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: since we have you here, about last weekend. This was
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: a treat for me. I haven't done this in a
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: long time. Nellie, give it a little bit.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: Here's a couple of pires taken away by DU.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Bob DeVise intercepted by Sackett. Nice little sauce to Forsberg.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: We've seen that about 800,000 times. In the history of
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: the game, set in front, score! Joe Sackett! So you're
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: back on the ice in the Avs alumni game. That
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: was a great goal. How much fun was that whole weekend,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: and how much fun was it finally getting back with
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: your former line mates and everything else?
• 35:38
  Speaker 8: You know what? We had a great time. I mean,
• 35:39
  Speaker 8: we're all probably a little nervous. You don't want to
• 35:43
  Speaker 8: turn and fall down, which probably almost happened. It happened
• 35:46
  Speaker 8: a few times to me where I was like, whoop,
• 35:48
  Speaker 8: can't do what I thought I could do. But, yeah,
• 35:52
  Speaker 8: it was great. It's always great to get back with
• 35:54
  Speaker 8: the guys. And just us being on the ice, again,
• 35:57
  Speaker 8: we had a blast. And all of us at the
• 35:59
  Speaker 8: same were like, whew. It was a tough night, tough
• 36:02
  Speaker 8: next morning for sure on the body. But it was
• 36:06
  Speaker 8: a blast. I mean, just getting the guys together in
• 36:09
  Speaker 8: the dressing room, you reminisce. It's like you're kids again.
• 36:14
  Speaker 8: You don't have to even see each other for 20 years.
• 36:16
  Speaker 8: And the minute you get back together, it's almost like
• 36:18
  Speaker 8: you were just back to being teammates 20 years prior,
• 36:20
  Speaker 8: trying to win a Stanley Cup. And here we were
• 36:23
  Speaker 8: at D, having a great time on the ice. So
• 36:25
  Speaker 8: it was an awesome weekend.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: Joe Sackick with us. You know, it's not totally unheard of,
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: but I would say it is rare to have a
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: coach going into the last year of his contract. Is
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: there any status update on Bednar's contract? Is anything going
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: to happen with that?
• 36:40
  Speaker 8: No, we're continuing. We're going to talk about it and
• 36:44
  Speaker 8: see if we can get to an agreement here. But, no,
• 36:48
  Speaker 8: I mean, coaches, players, there's a lot of people that
• 36:51
  Speaker 8: have gone in their last year of their deal, and
• 36:55
  Speaker 8: you find a way to get something done. So I'm
• 36:57
  Speaker 8: not worried about it. I don't think Betsy's worried about it.
• 37:00
  Speaker 8: We'll try and get to an extension, and, you know,
• 37:06
  Speaker 8: hopefully– hopefully working where we can work something out, but,
• 37:10
  Speaker 8: but there's no urgency either.
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: Hey, uh, you guys start in September for crying out loud,
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: which is crazy. How, how abbreviated is the preseason going
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: to be in the camp and all that business with
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: the longer season?
• 37:22
  Speaker 8: Well, we've, we've always said guys come into training camp.
• 37:25
  Speaker 8: It's such great shape now, um, to have only four games. It's, um,
• 37:30
  Speaker 8: I think it's a good thing. I mean, obviously we're
• 37:31
  Speaker 8: playing 84 games, uh, I know when I started, it
• 37:35
  Speaker 8: was over a month long. It was way too long.
• 37:38
  Speaker 8: And I think it's about right now where it's two weeks.
• 37:40
  Speaker 8: You get your training camp up a few games, and
• 37:43
  Speaker 8: it's such a long, long year. So why not just
• 37:45
  Speaker 8: get going and get to the real deal right away?
• 37:49
  Speaker 8: Everybody's excited about that.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Sorry about that, Joe. Is there anything else left for
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: you to do between now and then? Are there any
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: PTOs coming perhaps? Are you keeping your eye out on
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: that kind of thing? How does that work from this
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: point until they want to camp?
• 38:01
  Speaker 8: As of right now, we're just getting ready for camp.
• 38:03
  Speaker 8: Our guys are rolling in here now, skating together. Right now,
• 38:08
  Speaker 8: there's nothing. We're just going to keep our eyes open.
• 38:11
  Speaker 8: We have some young guys that we're excited about, and
• 38:15
  Speaker 8: we want to give them every opportunity they can do,
• 38:19
  Speaker 8: either make the team or be the next call-up guys.
• 38:23
  Speaker 8: But there's some guys in our organization that deserve a
• 38:26
  Speaker 8: shot on a regular basis, and Lucky for us, we
• 38:30
  Speaker 8: have a number of them, and we'll see who stands out.
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: You know, we were talking about this on the show
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: the other day, Joe, and this is how much the
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: money has changed.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: And this is everything in life. It's not just hockey.
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: But when the Rangers came after you, we found that was, what,
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: three years, 22 million most?
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: 21.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: Three years, 21?
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: And then you signed a guy for that much in
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: one year. It's truly remarkable how much the money. Did
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: you ever anticipate the money moving that much in your sport?
• 38:58
  Speaker 8: Well, you always hope, right, especially when you're a player.
• 39:02
  Speaker 8: But it's no different than when I came in, the
• 39:05
  Speaker 8: generation before us. I mean, all of a sudden the
• 39:09
  Speaker 8: money started skyrocketing and kind of plateaued a little bit,
• 39:12
  Speaker 8: and now with the revenues going up, I mean, the
• 39:16
  Speaker 8: contracts are going to go up following the revenues. And
• 39:19
  Speaker 8: I just think it just means the game's in such
• 39:21
  Speaker 8: a great spot right now. It's such an entertaining game,
• 39:23
  Speaker 8: and guys deserve the money. They do what they do.
• 39:29
  Speaker 8: Every single day, to try and get better. It's a
• 39:31
  Speaker 8: tough league. It's a physical league. The body takes a toll,
• 39:34
  Speaker 8: and these guys deserve whatever they can get.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: Joe Sackick with us. Last thing for you, Joe, and
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: I appreciate the time. You've made a lot of great
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: acquisitions in your time here in the front office for
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: the Avs. Where does trading Riker to DU rank among
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: your best trades?
• 39:48
  Speaker 8: Ha, ha, ha, ha. To be honest with you, I
• 39:51
  Speaker 8: didn't really want to do that. But it's so funny
• 39:54
  Speaker 8: because Peter Stashley is our coach, and he knew something
• 39:57
  Speaker 8: was up. It was probably more of a trade for him.
• 39:59
  Speaker 8: But Peter kept saying, guys, guys, okay, we've got to
• 40:03
  Speaker 8: keep it tight. You know, fans want to see a
• 40:04
  Speaker 8: tight game. So we don't want to run it up.
• 40:07
  Speaker 8: And then he goes and we trade Riker for Paul Stashley.
• 40:11
  Speaker 8: I'm like, I'm not sure that really helped out the
• 40:13
  Speaker 8: cause for Peter, wanting to keep it close.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Joe Sackick.
• 40:17
  Speaker 8: Joe Sackick to Riker, obviously.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, no, we will offend the hell out of him.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: We have no problem doing that. The king of the
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: toe pick. He actually, when he got traded, he actually
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: played better. I can't believe he didn't play like that
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: for you guys. That's funny stuff.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Joe Sackick with us.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: And appreciate the time, Joe.
• 40:34
  Speaker 8: We're cutting out here a little bit, and I can't
• 40:35
  Speaker 8: hear you guys. Can you hear me?
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: No, we got you. We're saying goodbye anyway, so thank
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: you so much for the time, Joe. I appreciate it.
• 40:42
  Speaker 8: You're welcome, guys. Anytime.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: Joe Sackick.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Yes, Vic?
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: Oh, no.
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: I had a couple more questions to ask him, and
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: I thought that you ended that interview prematurely, but it's okay.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: Well, we've got to get the chef detail at the
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: top here. Yeah. We're on the clock time frame here, Vic.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: We're not on the Vic time frame. Sorry, you ruined
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: my morning. I had some serious questions I wanted to
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: get to.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: Is this the first time they kind of said– I
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: know they hinted at the idea of working contract extension
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: with Bednar or whatever. That sounded pretty definitive, though, that
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: they were talking through something, right? Yeah.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: I have no idea what it would be, but again.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: It is rare that a coach heads into a final
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: year of a contract with nothing else coming afterwards.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: But again, if he wants to be here and they
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: want him here and they do, both sides do, he's like,
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: I'm not worried about it. I don't think Betsy's worried
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: about it. Listen, we've said.
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: This before about Jared Bednar. Jared Bednar understands he wants
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: to be here. If for some reason he's not here,
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: he'll have another job in 10 minutes.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: But he wants to be here.
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: And it's as simple as that. If they can make
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: it work so he is here longer, great. If he's
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: not here, it's not like he's going to be without work.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: Mark Moser.
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: You know that.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: We know that.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 41:56
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• 41:58
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• 42:01
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• 42:05
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• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Look at James chiming in. Mosher always in the interview awkwardly, LOL.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: His phone cut out, dill hole.
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: Hey, James.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: James, chill. I think it was.
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: A little.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Awkward.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: Anyway, Adam Schefter is going to join us in just
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: a few minutes. All the news around the league, the
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: official return of Aaron Donald, and maybe Schefter's got some
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: info on what the NFL is thinking. regarding Jonathan Cooper.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: We'll get to it next.