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Ryder Lee Podcaster, Filmmaker and Director, Host of Raised by Giants · Ryder Lee

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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody. We have writer Lee with us tonight and
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Speaker 1: we've been looking forward to this another one of Laala's
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Speaker 1: amazing intuitive invites. She's a miracle worker and writer. Is
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Speaker 1: uh filmmaker, director, actor and on Raised by Giants podcast.
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Speaker 2: That is your podcast, right, yes, sir, it is. Thanks
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Speaker 2: for having me on.
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Speaker 1: Really appreciate it or tell our audience all the things
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Speaker 1: you can think to tell them about you and your work.
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Speaker 2: Well that's kind of a long story, but thanks for
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Speaker 2: having me on. Obviously really appreciated. And I'm streaming this
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Speaker 2: to my audience as well, so they're getting a little
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Speaker 2: bonus treat this week. So welcome anybody listening over there
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Speaker 2: on Raised by Giants on YouTube. Yeah, so I basically
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Speaker 2: started this channel and around five years ago, at the
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Speaker 2: end of twenty twenty, and because I'd had a big
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Speaker 2: awakening by watching that I've talked about this several times
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Speaker 2: by watching the movie Zeitgeist in the early two thousands,
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Speaker 2: and it kind of broke everything down, you know, the religious,
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Speaker 2: the monetary system, and we're seeing right now at this
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Speaker 2: current moment, how fallible the monetary system is and nine
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Speaker 2: to eleven and all that stuff. So it kind of
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Speaker 2: just was this heavy heading thing, you know, like that
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Speaker 2: a lot of people experience whenever they realize, oh wow,
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Speaker 2: a lot of this stuff is a lot of nonsense
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Speaker 2: and made up garbage and we're basically living a lie.
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Speaker 2: And that kind of took me down a path and
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Speaker 2: then all that information kind of imploded upon itself, and
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Speaker 2: then later on I was trying to figure out, like
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Speaker 2: what I wanted to do, what I really enjoyed, what
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Speaker 2: I really loved, and is obviously talking with people and
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Speaker 2: having a really good conversation about things that people may not.
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Speaker 2: I mean, this community has become super popular, like the
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Speaker 2: truther or community and the conspiracy community, and ufology has
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Speaker 2: become really popular, and you.
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Speaker 3: Know the years after that, but.
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Speaker 2: I just kind of got the tell end of it
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Speaker 2: becoming more into mainstream. So here we are, and I've
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Speaker 2: made two films. I've made JFKX Solving The Crime of
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Speaker 2: the Century, which was on Amazon Prime and to B
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Speaker 2: and my most recent documentary, A Clockwork Shining. Kubrick's Odyssey
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Speaker 2: three is also on Amazon Prime as well. And if
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Speaker 2: you can't get it on Amazon Prime, you can get
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Speaker 2: it on Vimeo so quick.
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Speaker 1: Pot you can get that on I'm definitely gonna watch
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Speaker 1: it because WHOA what a kubric frame I am of everything,
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Speaker 1: but Eyes Wide Shut.
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Speaker 2: That's a really strange It's a really strange movie, Eyes
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Speaker 2: Wide Shot. And there's a lot of theories and a
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Speaker 2: lot of speculation, a lot of symbolism in there too,
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Speaker 2: free Masonic symbolism. We talk about it in our movie
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Speaker 2: All the Free Mason Symbolism, The Seven Pointed Star, you know,
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Speaker 2: just in general, how I mean, it's kind of about
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Speaker 2: a secret society, right, this is controlling and manipulent, lading
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Speaker 2: things behind the scenes. And then Kubrick dies of a
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Speaker 2: heart attack before the film is released, so it's kind
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Speaker 2: of gone down in history, as you know, one of
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Speaker 2: those classic Qubriic films.
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Speaker 1: But I felt I thought, I thought, this is a
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Speaker 1: quick comment. I thought his The Shining was a well
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Speaker 1: done movie. I got mad with him for changing.
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Speaker 2: The ending, well the original there wasn't original ending, but.
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Speaker 3: He cut it out.
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Speaker 2: So there was an original ending where Danny and Wendy.
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Speaker 2: Wendy wakes up in the hospital and Almond comes in
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Speaker 2: to visits Wendy in the hospital and basically basically explains
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Speaker 2: the Windy that everything that she's explained to the police
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Speaker 2: officers didn't really happen. They couldn't find any evidence of
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Speaker 2: anything like that happening. And then Almond then he throws
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Speaker 2: the tennis ball to Danny and he's like, oh, hey,
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Speaker 2: why don't you guys come to my place in La
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Speaker 2: to stay with me, you know, And then the.
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Speaker 1: Scatman crubbers Scruger's character does in the movie, but he's
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Speaker 1: on the dock with Danny calling him Doc and helping
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Speaker 1: him learn to shine. At the end of the book.
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Speaker 1: That was a great ending.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's what kind of happens at the beginning of
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Speaker 2: Doctor Sleep and the movie version. If you watch the
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Speaker 2: movie Doctor Sleep, that's the beginning. Opening scene of Doctor
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Speaker 2: Sleep is Scatman on the bench talking to Danny about
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Speaker 2: the Shine.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I loved it. I love I love. That is
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Speaker 1: my second favorite Stephen King book. My first favorite is
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Speaker 1: The Stand.
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Speaker 2: The Stand is really good too. I didn't read the
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Speaker 2: actual book, but I watched the series and I really
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Speaker 2: enjoyed the series. Under the Dome is really good as well.
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Speaker 1: Yes, The Stand is a thousand pages of marvelous.
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, it so long. I couldn't you couldn't
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Speaker 2: keep my attention that long with a book's not going
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Speaker 2: to happen.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So just just a common thing between us is uh,
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Speaker 1: I lived in New Jersey when the towers were struck.
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Speaker 1: I got in my car and drove because I'm a
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Speaker 1: radio operator, and I operated right at ground zero in
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Speaker 1: a school for the Red Cross, arranging logistics and all
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Speaker 1: of that stuff for the fireman and the policeman and
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Speaker 1: other first responders. And oh my goodness, it was rough.
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Speaker 2: Oh I can imagine all the chaos and people not
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Speaker 2: knowing exactly what's going on. Buildings falling, Building seven falling,
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Speaker 2: with nothing ever hitting it.
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Speaker 1: I was crazy, you know. I didn't know how stable
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Speaker 1: the American Express tower was, but I and two firefighters
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Speaker 1: went right to the top, knock a window out and
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Speaker 1: put an antennae out.
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Speaker 4: Can I I should ask, but we'd probably agree on
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Speaker 4: the same thing. What do you think actually happened? What's
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Speaker 4: your opinion on nine to eleven? Can we?
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Speaker 1: Of course you can't conspiracy.
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Speaker 4: I think it was set up inside, set up. Personally,
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Speaker 4: I think there's too many weird things that happened.
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Speaker 2: But anyway, Uh, I don't know, but I would really
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Speaker 2: like Trump to release the nine to eleven files, Like,
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Speaker 2: why doesn't he release the nine eleven files? He says
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Speaker 2: that he's going to release the Trump files, the RFK files,
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Speaker 2: and Martin Luther King Junior, you might as well drop
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Speaker 2: the nine to eleven files as well. Right, Well, got
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Speaker 2: my fingers crossed for that one. But there's so many
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Speaker 2: inconsistencies and things that they just completely covered up. Like
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Speaker 2: you know, the big one is the passports falling out
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Speaker 2: of the somehow everything burned up and everything collapsed, but
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Speaker 2: somehow there's they found the passports of the hijackers. Those
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Speaker 2: passports somehow survived. It's just a bunch of different sketchy
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Speaker 2: things that make you believe that it was something other
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Speaker 2: than what it is. And then, if we know anything
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Speaker 2: about war, they will literally do anything to take people
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Speaker 2: into war because war is money, and it's money for
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Speaker 2: the bankers. So was it an inside job? Could probably
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Speaker 2: possibly be. Was it a way to create something in
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Speaker 2: order to get us in the war, to get us
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Speaker 2: in the Afghanistan and making these lies up about weapons
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Speaker 2: of mass destruction? And we have that in our documentary
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Speaker 2: at Clockwork Shining, how many times President Bush had weapons
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Speaker 2: of mass destruction? That's literally all that came out of
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Speaker 2: his mouth for years and years and years, biological weapons,
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Speaker 2: weapons of mass destruction, nuclear weapons, it was just a string.
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Speaker 2: It is a compilation of it in the documentary Clockwork
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Speaker 2: Shining on Amazon Prime. And it's just we know that
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Speaker 2: these certain events, if the event isn't one hundred percent manipulated,
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Speaker 2: and I mean there's several of them, like the Gulf
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Speaker 2: of Tonkin incident, like it's a complete fabrication to get
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Speaker 2: us into the Vietnam War. It seems like that these
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Speaker 2: events coincide with us getting into some big altercation with
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Speaker 2: another country. And that's what we're kind of realizing now
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Speaker 2: with this USA stuff, is that we're essentially paying off
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Speaker 2: all these other countries to essentially play ball with us.
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Speaker 2: You know, here's a here's ten you know, trillion dollars,
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Speaker 2: which is exaggerated, right, but ten million dollars whatever you
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Speaker 2: wanted to and you got to play ball. And here
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Speaker 2: we'll give you a list of these rules that you
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Speaker 2: need to follow in order for us not to completely
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Speaker 2: just create political instability and create an uprising in your country.
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Speaker 2: And if you don't follow all these rules to change
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Speaker 2: your government, then that's exactly what's going to happen. Yes,
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Speaker 2: there's many levels to it. It's not only like a
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Speaker 2: buy off and like play ball with us, but it's
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Speaker 2: also like a money laundering. It's there's so many different
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Speaker 2: things to the USA thing. And it's not just one thing.
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Speaker 2: And that's another thing that a lot of these the
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Speaker 2: governments and the corporations and the three letter agency agencies,
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Speaker 2: people can try and pin down one thing that it is,
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Speaker 2: but it's not just solely that one thing. There's multiple
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Speaker 2: levels to it. There's many branches to the snake. There's
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Speaker 2: many tentacles to the octopus.
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Speaker 1: If you will, yep, listen, let me ask the answer
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Speaker 1: this question. Philip will cover that another time. But Chris
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Speaker 1: Bledsoe I are very close and dear friends, I'm not
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Speaker 1: a scientist for Chris Budshoe's concerned. I'm a friend. So anyway,
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Speaker 1: let's go back to you. You got a bunch of
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Speaker 1: people here, won't to say hello to you from your side?
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Speaker 2: How's it going, Pamela, good to see you, so the
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Speaker 2: boys in there, Loretta, good to see you guys.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and let me let me keep going. So your
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Speaker 1: your folks, Yeah, all right, So you're what what what
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Speaker 1: a piece of media are you working on? Now? What
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Speaker 1: do you what do you got planned that you can
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Speaker 1: tell us about.
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Speaker 2: I have a few things in the works right now.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to be working on Jay Widner's documentary on
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Speaker 2: the Plasma Universe. I'm gonna be editing and putting that together,
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Speaker 2: and then I have my own type of thing in
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Speaker 2: the works that's more than likely going to be based
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Speaker 2: off of remote viewing and the psychic Spire Stargate program
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Speaker 2: done by the d I A and Army Intelligence.
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Speaker 1: Great top Yeah, we are Simion Hind trained remote views.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's uh, that's a very fascinating and interesting topic.
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Speaker 2: And when you dive into the government's aspect and exactly
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Speaker 2: what it was that they're doing this so convoluted, all
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Speaker 2: the name changes, all the different you know, companies and
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Speaker 2: people that were funding funneling in money into funding all
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Speaker 2: of these programs, and Army Intelligence being involved, c i
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Speaker 2: A being involved, CIA essentially funding SRI International and you
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Speaker 2: know d i A, Army Intelligence. It's just like a
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Speaker 2: giant like a cryptogram that you got a decipher to
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Speaker 2: try and figure out exactly where everything is. But that's
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Speaker 2: another issue is with Trump's supposed Stargate AI system. It's
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Speaker 2: going to make it even harder for people to figure
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Speaker 2: out the Stargate stuff. But I've done a whole breakdown
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Speaker 2: of the Stargate program, and I've had several other people
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Speaker 2: that were officially in the Stargate remote viewing unit at
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Speaker 2: Fort Mead on my channel, including doctor David Morehouse, doctor
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Speaker 2: Paul Smith, Lim Buchanan dale Graff, which was the guy
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Speaker 2: that actually coined the term Stargate and turned made it
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Speaker 2: that name, because there were several names that it was
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Speaker 2: before that of Center Lane, Sunstreak, grill Flame, and then
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Speaker 2: it ended up at Stargate in the early nineties, and
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Speaker 2: then the CIA was supposed to take it over, and
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Speaker 2: then the CIA got all the files and all the
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Speaker 2: documents and basically closed the program down. So it shut
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Speaker 2: down in ninety five, and then it became declassified shortly after,
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Speaker 2: I believe in around two thousand and three.
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Speaker 1: Well, there are quite a few corporations which served the
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Speaker 1: needs of the intelligence community and they produced intelligence intelligence
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Speaker 1: product using a remote viewing so it gives them one
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Speaker 1: degree of separation from actually how it works. And I
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Speaker 1: spent twenty something years on and off of the large
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Speaker 1: buildings on the Ford Made campus. So I've been negger,
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Speaker 1: done that, Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And I think that the program has evolved into something
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Speaker 2: way more nefarious, Like it started out as a data
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Speaker 2: and intelligence collection method on foreign targets and on foreign assets.
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Speaker 2: But I think just as they found out that remote
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Speaker 2: viewing can be used for other things, like Ingo Swan's
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Speaker 2: remote viewing practice, there's this very advanced form of remote viewing,
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Speaker 2: this called perfect site integration, where you can remote view
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Speaker 2: and area and it's like you're literally there and you
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Speaker 2: can interact with the environment, and you can move things
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Speaker 2: around and like push things off of the table, push
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Speaker 2: things off of the desk, and you can literally do that.
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Speaker 2: It's like almost like by location, like you're bylocating your
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Speaker 2: actual body to another destination, you're able to move things around,
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Speaker 2: which then gives a completely different definition to the paranormal topic, right,
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Speaker 2: because what if this isn't you know, people that have
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Speaker 2: passed away. What if this isn't like some kind of
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Speaker 2: repeat What if this is like the activity that people
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Speaker 2: are experiencing or from literal living human beings that are
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Speaker 2: somehow by locating their essence into your house or wherever,
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Speaker 2: and just messing with your stuff, which is a really
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Speaker 2: interesting angle.
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Speaker 1: I woke up, so I regularly sleep with a mask on,
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Speaker 1: and I woke up and I could see the room
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Speaker 1: with a mask on, and then I saw this man's
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Speaker 1: face in front of me, and I could see the
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Speaker 1: room behind him, and I knew who the man was
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Speaker 1: and the room at Fort Mede where he was. So
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Speaker 1: that was yeah, yeah, I'm retired intelligence person. So anyway,
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Speaker 1: I've a little bit so and today we're in we're
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Speaker 1: getting ready for the show, and we're in our bedroom
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Speaker 1: and the top drawer comes out and shakes a bag.
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Speaker 1: So we put up with a stuff like all. I
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Speaker 1: like it. I like we always doesn't scare us, but
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Speaker 1: welcome to our world.
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Speaker 2: Well, it takes on a different meaning when you're when
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Speaker 2: it's not so mysterious as you know, a spirit or
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Speaker 2: an entity, which I'm not discounting the idea that maybe
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Speaker 2: there is some kind of spiritual entity component or aspect
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Speaker 2: to it, because I've seen some really strange and weird
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Speaker 2: things in some areas that you know, why would someone
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Speaker 2: be randomly remote viewing this house, you know what I mean?
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Speaker 2: Where all these people are seeing stuff? So I'm not
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Speaker 2: discounting the fact or the idea that maybe some of
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Speaker 2: the activity could revolve around some sort of disembodied spirit
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Speaker 2: or some kind of you know, demonic quote unquote demonic
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Speaker 2: activity to some people might be experiencing. But I think
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Speaker 2: that it brings another level to it when you consider
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Speaker 2: this perfect side integration thing that Ingoswam is talking about
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Speaker 2: that Lembu Cannon talks about that this idea of by
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Speaker 2: location and essentially like astral projection, but astral projecting and
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Speaker 2: a physical body that you're able to literally create outside
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Speaker 2: of the physical body that you're currently in. And some
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Speaker 2: people feel that there might be a.
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Speaker 1: Little worried about physical effects on this external physical body.
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Speaker 1: So me, I would prefer to have an energy body.
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Speaker 1: And Loretta asked, and I'm just going to tell you
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Speaker 1: one thing I know you can do. Almost everybody I
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Speaker 1: know that has gone to the Monroe Institute and gone
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Speaker 1: through their training does OBEs before they leave. Almost every
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Speaker 1: one on.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's another thing that's kind of wrapped up in
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Speaker 2: the Stargate project as well, and people kind of confuse
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Speaker 2: those to in a way because the Monroe Institute had
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Speaker 2: a program under a very similar name was called the Gateway,
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Speaker 2: the Gateway program, and people get that confused with the
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Speaker 2: Stargate program. And that's where some people have claimed to
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Speaker 2: be a part of this Stargate project that.
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Speaker 3: Was never a part of the program.
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Speaker 2: I have the list of all the names that was
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Speaker 2: a part of this program, so people that are claiming
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Speaker 2: to be a part of the program, I can tell
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Speaker 2: you if they were or they weren't. I have the
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Speaker 2: declassified documents that explicitly state exactly who was in these
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Speaker 2: programs and who wasn't. But I think some people are
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Speaker 2: getting confused because a lot of people have been through
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Speaker 2: those Monroe Institute Gateway programs, which the Monroe Institute is
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Speaker 2: to essentially have an out of body experience. And the
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Speaker 2: DA Army Intelligence was interested in those programs and actually
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Speaker 2: paid the Monroe Institute five thousand dollars to take some
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Speaker 2: of their Army personnel to go to Monroe Institute. This
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Speaker 2: would be beneficial for them to be if it would
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Speaker 2: help them with their remote viewing. And also reportedly in
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Speaker 2: Fort Mead at the unit in for me they had
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Speaker 2: the Monroe tapes the binarial beats in like a cassette
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Speaker 2: player that some of the remote viewers would supposedly, it
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Speaker 2: hasn't been confirmed, so it's you know, one of those
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Speaker 2: things is he says, she said thing, which is kind
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Speaker 2: of what it's like talking with a lot of the
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Speaker 2: people that were part of these programs that they would
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Speaker 2: use to get them into that relaxed state, that remote
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Speaker 2: viewing state. So it makes the transition smoother.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So the nice thing it's it's a safe,
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Speaker 1: well trained people who have a ton of experience, and
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Speaker 1: they help you avoid the pitfalls. So it's I think
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Speaker 1: it's a good thing. And Bob Monroe and his audiologists
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Speaker 1: and engineers, et cetera, they work really hard because Bob
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Speaker 1: Monroe was very very convince asked in the beginning that
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Speaker 1: he was insane and found out he wasn't. This did
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Speaker 1: dedicate his life to study in it, and here we go.
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Speaker 1: That's a great place.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: That one gentleman that was recently on Joe Rogan that
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Speaker 2: was kind of essentially well, he says that he was
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Speaker 2: Bob Monroe's like essentially his right hand man and knew
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Speaker 2: him really well. And no, that wasn't Ed Dames.
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Speaker 3: It was this.
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Speaker 2: I can't think of his name. I'm about halfway through
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Speaker 2: the podcast, but he's essentially talking about how he realized
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Speaker 2: that he was leaving his body and having an out
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Speaker 2: of body experience every single night, and that's exactly like
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Speaker 2: what Bob Monroe was experiencing. So they kind of teamed
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Speaker 2: up together, and he said that he was a computer programmer,
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Speaker 2: you know, back back in the day, way back in
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Speaker 2: the day when everything was like analog and you actually
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Speaker 2: had to like program in the to the computer. And
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Speaker 2: he said that he went to a meditation class one
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Speaker 2: time and he sat down and he did a meditation,
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Speaker 2: and then he was was able to see all the
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Speaker 2: mistakes in the code during his meditation. That would take
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Speaker 2: him hours and hours and days and days and probably
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Speaker 2: weeks and maybe months to figure out all the errors
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Speaker 2: in the code that he was programming the computer with.
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Speaker 2: And he was seeing exactly where all the errors were
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Speaker 2: in his programming when he would meditate. So he was
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Speaker 2: essentially saying that he was outside of his body and
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Speaker 2: he was getting all this information from this infinite data
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Speaker 2: field that's all around us at all times, and he
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Speaker 2: was pulling it from the ether and then he would
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Speaker 2: be able to go and fix I mean, this is
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Speaker 2: on Joe, this is on Joe Rogan. He's talking about
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Speaker 2: this stuff and then he would be able to go
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Speaker 2: and fix the the mistakes that he had in his coat.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't Paul Smith, was it.
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Speaker 2: No, I've had Paul Smith on before. This guy is in.
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Speaker 2: It wasn't a remote viewer.
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Speaker 1: Oh I see, Oh yeah, Skip, you're talking about Skip.
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Speaker 2: No, it wasn't Skip out Water he was on.
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Speaker 1: That was Sean Ryan, Well, he was Skip was not
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Speaker 1: was a manager promote viewer.
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Speaker 2: That's right. I'll try and find his name. It's not.
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Speaker 2: It was back a couple of weeks ago. Uh, Thomas Campbell.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Loretta figured out for us.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Thomas Campbell.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, Loretta. Hey, that's great. Okay, So have you
21:27
Speaker 1: had UFO experiences? Mmmm?
21:33
Speaker 2: Well, I think it might actually have a video of
21:35
Speaker 2: something that I'm let me see if I can find.
21:37
Speaker 1: It, go ahead and present it if if you.
21:41
Speaker 2: Want, shown it on my show a couple of times.
21:48
Speaker 2: But yes, I mean I've seen something that I don't
21:51
Speaker 2: know exactly what it is, and I don't I don't know,
21:54
Speaker 2: you know, people say, well, it's definitely a UFO or whatever,
21:58
Speaker 2: but I mean I don't nobody really knows what any
22:01
Speaker 2: other stuff is and anyone that tells me do you
22:03
Speaker 2: know what it is? They're full of shit. You know,
22:06
Speaker 2: they don't know what it is exactly. Well, I thought
22:11
Speaker 2: I had it on here.
22:13
Speaker 4: I just want to say some not on time, I add,
22:16
Speaker 4: so everybody, you're welcome. I learned today that people think,
22:22
Speaker 4: and it might be true, that the emojis that we use,
22:25
Speaker 4: like the smiley face and such, it's actually schedules from
22:30
Speaker 4: was it thirty three something of Solomon Solomon. It's it's
22:36
Speaker 4: sneaky stuff they put in. In other words, they try
22:39
Speaker 4: to sneak in not great things, and we're calling it
22:44
Speaker 4: to us.
22:44
Speaker 1: I like that. It was a good conspiracy, but it
22:48
Speaker 1: it took.
22:48
Speaker 4: Me down the rabbit hole of sigils and all that
22:50
Speaker 4: stuff that I didn't really realize.
22:52
Speaker 1: I didn't know that much about it was interesting.
22:54
Speaker 2: I must have deleted it off of my computer.
22:57
Speaker 1: Here.
22:57
Speaker 2: Let me try and find it on my phone, pier.
23:00
Speaker 2: But it's essentially I was in the backyard in Colorado
23:04
Speaker 2: and we were having like a little get together from
23:07
Speaker 2: like friends and people to come hang out, and a
23:11
Speaker 2: lady brought a infrared night vision goggles with her and
23:19
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, right, let me check them out.
23:20
Speaker 2: Let me go and look and see if I can
23:23
Speaker 2: see anything in the sky. So I have the night
23:26
Speaker 2: vision goggles in my hand. I'm looking up in the
23:27
Speaker 2: sky and I see this what I guess could be
23:31
Speaker 2: described as like a craft. But it's like a half
23:34
Speaker 2: boomerang shaped craft. It's kind of like what Kenneth Arnold
23:39
Speaker 2: was talking about what he seen. Because Kenneth Arnold's never
23:43
Speaker 2: said that the shape of that's another misconception about ufology
23:46
Speaker 2: and the Kenneth Arnald case.
23:49
Speaker 3: Arnold never said that the craft.
23:52
Speaker 2: Was sorcerer in shape. He said that it flew like
23:55
Speaker 2: a sorcerer skipped across water. And then the reporting of
23:58
Speaker 2: it on the from the newspapers and the outlets misquoted him.
24:02
Speaker 2: I said that the shape of the craft was saucer shaped,
24:05
Speaker 2: when you never said that it was. Okay, here is
24:07
Speaker 2: the video. Can you see it on your screen?
24:10
Speaker 1: I can. Let me add the stage and make it big.
24:15
Speaker 2: Okay, So this is me filming this in in my backyard.
24:20
Speaker 2: I'm the one that's on You see it coming down
24:22
Speaker 2: from the left hand. It's like a boomerang. And I'm
24:26
Speaker 2: saying that I'm saying at this point I'm like, there's
24:29
Speaker 2: something strange or something weird in the sky. It looks
24:31
Speaker 2: like a boomerang. I don't know what it is. It
24:33
Speaker 2: kind of looks like a flying v in the sky.
24:36
Speaker 2: And then I try and.
24:37
Speaker 1: Fallow us long as I care. Where do you live?
24:41
Speaker 1: Where do you live?
24:43
Speaker 4: Well?
24:44
Speaker 2: I don't live there anymore. But this was filmed in
24:47
Speaker 2: Fort Collins, Colorado.
24:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I had a guess, but that won't be it.
24:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, So, I mean it's a military city, college town
24:56
Speaker 2: and all that. So I don't know what this is.
24:59
Speaker 2: But I tried to post it online and trying to
25:01
Speaker 2: get some traction for it, and no one seemed like
25:03
Speaker 2: that they were even interested. But it's really big, and
25:05
Speaker 2: I was asking people as I was filming it. I
25:08
Speaker 2: was like, can you I'm seeing something on the night
25:10
Speaker 2: vision goggles? Can you see this with your naked eye?
25:14
Speaker 2: And they said no, we can't see with their naked eye.
25:17
Speaker 2: So it was literally only showing up on the Military
25:20
Speaker 2: Great Division goggles.
25:22
Speaker 4: We'll post if you.
25:23
Speaker 1: Want here, here's my toys. The psionics option in and
25:28
Speaker 1: that thing is amazing. So, I mean I could see
25:32
Speaker 1: orbs and other things that I can't and craft that
25:35
Speaker 1: I can't see with my naked eye. The best thing
25:37
Speaker 1: it does has helped me distinguish two hours after sun
25:42
Speaker 1: up to two hours after sunset, and up to two
25:44
Speaker 1: hours before sunrise, what's the satellite and not Folks, If
25:49
Speaker 1: you are out observing and you're within two hours of
25:52
Speaker 1: sunset or two hours before sunrise, if you're in that window,
25:57
Speaker 1: you've got to rule out satellites because you can see
26:01
Speaker 1: them from the reflected sunlight even when you're in the dark,
26:04
Speaker 1: because they're way up high and they can see the sun.
26:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot of things I've been misidentified as
26:12
Speaker 2: you know. The way that it's always been explained to
26:15
Speaker 2: me is if it's blinking. If something's blinking, then it's
26:20
Speaker 2: not a UFO. It's because all things that are blinking
26:24
Speaker 2: is some sort of human made craft. It's the military
26:27
Speaker 2: and all that. And that's that's been the whole speculation
26:31
Speaker 2: and the theory from the very beginning with Paul Benwitz,
26:33
Speaker 2: like back in the seventies into the eighties, like he
26:36
Speaker 2: was literally seeing military craft and he thought that it
26:40
Speaker 2: was alien craft because they were experimental type craft that
26:43
Speaker 2: was moving unlike anything that people knew about at the time.
26:47
Speaker 2: And he mistaked all of it for UFOs, and then
26:50
Speaker 2: that became this huge UFO craze and the late seventies
26:56
Speaker 2: into the eighties, Like there's so much misdirection and so
27:00
Speaker 2: much nonsense when it comes to ufology that once you
27:04
Speaker 2: trace it all back, like I was mentioning with Kenneth Arnold,
27:07
Speaker 2: you realize that a lot of it is made up,
27:12
Speaker 2: nonsensical garbage.
27:15
Speaker 1: We occasionally use the word bullshit around here, but you
27:18
Speaker 1: don't have to.
27:22
Speaker 4: Beause I've only been open with the public what about
27:26
Speaker 4: three years now, But it feels like high school all
27:30
Speaker 4: over again. Who's the coolest? You know, whether or not
27:34
Speaker 4: you know anything. It's just about trend who's trendy right now?
27:38
Speaker 1: On social media? The emotional age is about six.
27:43
Speaker 4: I thought that was interesting. It was a surprise getting
27:47
Speaker 4: into I guess people called.
27:49
Speaker 1: The WU par alien.
27:52
Speaker 4: I guess it was just I didn't expect it, that's all.
27:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like it's like it's another layer of
27:59
Speaker 2: the the matrix. If you will, I mean, you think
28:03
Speaker 2: that you're kind of getting into the community to listen
28:07
Speaker 2: to open minded people that have maybe some strange experiences,
28:12
Speaker 2: but then they try and like label everything as if
28:15
Speaker 2: like they know exactly what it is. And that's like,
28:19
Speaker 2: that's why I don't really talk about any of the
28:21
Speaker 2: weird or strange things that I've experienced, because then you
28:24
Speaker 2: just get a bunch of people telling you exactly what
28:28
Speaker 2: it was that it that you experienced, when I have
28:31
Speaker 2: absolutely no idea what I experienced. I don't know what
28:34
Speaker 2: that craft was that I just showed on the screen.
28:36
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was the military. I don't
28:38
Speaker 2: know if it was some kind of weird drone. I
28:40
Speaker 2: have no idea. And people love to just tell you
28:43
Speaker 2: exactly what it is like and like they love to
28:47
Speaker 2: relate things to extraterrestrials and aliens when it may not
28:52
Speaker 2: be extraterrestrials or aliens. There might be way more of
28:57
Speaker 2: a better explanation as to exactly what it is than
29:00
Speaker 2: it being extraterrestrials and aliens. But extraterrestrials and aliens is
29:04
Speaker 2: such a big topic right now that people really believe
29:08
Speaker 2: in the core of their being, Like with like religion,
29:11
Speaker 2: and religion has been sucked into the community as well,
29:14
Speaker 2: and everybody that knows about religion, everyone knows what Christianity is.
29:18
Speaker 2: Everyone is familiar with the stories and the miracles, so
29:22
Speaker 2: called miracles, and the extraterrestrials seemil extraterrestrial things from the Bible,
29:27
Speaker 2: so that they immediately want to believe. They want to
29:30
Speaker 2: believe that we're not the only beings in the universe,
29:33
Speaker 2: that there's all these other star systems out there that
29:35
Speaker 2: can sustain life, and there's all these other civilizations and
29:39
Speaker 2: stuff out there, and I'm not saying that they're one.
29:42
Speaker 2: Isn't right? Where is the evidence? I mean, we have
29:47
Speaker 2: telescopes that can see the thousands and thousands of miles
29:51
Speaker 2: into the galaxy, and we haven't run across any physical
29:55
Speaker 2: life out there, Like, come on, give me a little
29:58
Speaker 2: bit of a break here.
30:00
Speaker 1: So we caught this on our cameras in our backyard,
30:05
Speaker 1: and you see this, and you can see the triangle
30:08
Speaker 1: and whatever this is here, and we just kind of
30:12
Speaker 1: put our evidence up and let people throw darts, and
30:16
Speaker 1: it was amazing how much crap we got. Told it
30:23
Speaker 1: had to be good inspirations. I mean, does that look
30:27
Speaker 1: like a moth to you? So? Furmore, it was almost midnight,
30:33
Speaker 1: so the only way it was illuminated was it was
30:37
Speaker 1: way up high close to orbit or in orbit. I mean,
30:40
Speaker 1: what can I say? Yeah, so I understand exactly what
30:45
Speaker 1: you said, and I do not tell people I know
30:48
Speaker 1: what stuff is. I say, here's what we got. And
30:53
Speaker 1: it seems weird to me. But you do your own thing.
30:57
Speaker 2: Now, you draw your own conclusion, and you know if,
31:02
Speaker 2: like I've mentioned it several times on my show, when
31:04
Speaker 2: I was really young, I would be like laying in bed,
31:07
Speaker 2: and because I think a lot of younger kids have
31:10
Speaker 2: had a lot of strange things happen to them whenever
31:12
Speaker 2: they were younger, and sometimes they can remember and sometimes
31:14
Speaker 2: they can't. But I think everyone has strange and weird
31:18
Speaker 2: things happen to them when they're young and every night
31:22
Speaker 2: for a really long time. And this is gonna sound
31:25
Speaker 2: super wooo and crazy, but I've mentioned it several times
31:28
Speaker 2: on my channel with other guests that I would see
31:32
Speaker 2: things coming out of the walls at night and it
31:34
Speaker 2: surround my bed every single night. Now, if I were
31:39
Speaker 2: to say that to someone that is super into uphology
31:43
Speaker 2: and is into you know, aliens and extraterrestrials, they would
31:48
Speaker 2: immediately say, Oh, that's the gray aliens. That's one the
31:51
Speaker 2: gray aliens. They got the phaser technology, they can come
31:54
Speaker 2: in and out of the walls. You were being abducted,
31:56
Speaker 2: you were being experimented on, And I'm like, no, none
31:59
Speaker 2: of that is my experience. I remember absolutely.
32:03
Speaker 3: None of that. None of that happened for sure.
32:07
Speaker 2: Was not aliens, was for sure or not. I was
32:10
Speaker 2: for sure not being abducted, you know. But that's what
32:13
Speaker 2: they the labels that they try and like throw on it,
32:16
Speaker 2: and they try and convince you that that is what
32:20
Speaker 2: you experience. And then they're like, oh, well, don't get
32:23
Speaker 2: a regression, I don't reveal the truth. Well that's bullshit too.
32:26
Speaker 2: Like when you're getting regressed, you're in a very vulnerable state.
32:30
Speaker 2: The regressor can literally implant thoughts and ideas into your
32:35
Speaker 2: head and make you believe that you've seen something or
32:37
Speaker 2: experience something that you never even seen.
32:40
Speaker 1: And you better find a regressor who will not do that,
32:44
Speaker 1: who has the proven track record or they can value up.
32:48
Speaker 2: And I don't know anybody. I don't know. I don't
32:50
Speaker 2: know any of those people. I don't think that very
32:52
Speaker 2: many of those people exist. Because whenever you're looking for aliens,
32:57
Speaker 2: whenever you want there to be aliens, they're going to
33:02
Speaker 2: find aliens. If I go to an extraterrestrial regressionist, but
33:07
Speaker 2: your regression was never even used to find out if
33:10
Speaker 2: you'd been abducted by aliens. It was a therapeutic thing
33:14
Speaker 2: to take you back and help you work through traumatic
33:18
Speaker 2: events and help you with addiction of quitting smoking, quitting
33:21
Speaker 2: drinking and drugs and stuff like that. That's what the
33:25
Speaker 2: therapeutic original idea behind regression was used for. And now,
33:32
Speaker 2: but if you went to a someone that specializes in
33:36
Speaker 2: extraterrestrial alien encounters through regression, and you already believe that
33:43
Speaker 2: you've had an encounter with an alien or an extraterrestrial
33:45
Speaker 2: or that you've been abducted, guess what they're going to find.
33:50
Speaker 2: That's what they're going to find. They're going to come
33:53
Speaker 2: and say, oh, you were definitely abducted by aliens. And
33:58
Speaker 2: it's the same with like a parent normal investigator. I've
34:01
Speaker 2: explained this a few times on my channel as well.
34:04
Speaker 2: If you have a paranormal investigation team, they go into
34:06
Speaker 2: a house it's supposed to be paranormal or had some
34:09
Speaker 2: kind of weird strange things happening, and all these reports happen,
34:13
Speaker 2: they're probably going to come out of there and also
34:15
Speaker 2: confirm what everybody already thought. They're going to come out
34:18
Speaker 2: and say, oh, well, it's for sure haunted. There's something
34:21
Speaker 2: weird or paranormal happening. If you take a big foot
34:24
Speaker 2: field investigator out into the woods and they're looking for bigfoot,
34:27
Speaker 2: they're going to say that is bigfoot. If you take
34:30
Speaker 2: an alien investigator or a UFO researcher to a place
34:33
Speaker 2: that has a lot of UFO activity, they're going to
34:36
Speaker 2: go out there and they're going to come back and say, oh, yeah,
34:38
Speaker 2: there's for sure a bunch of anomalous activity happening in
34:41
Speaker 2: the sky.
34:42
Speaker 1: Okay there. I can take name one certified analysts, I
34:49
Speaker 1: mean a therapist regression hypnotist that I would trust in
34:54
Speaker 1: the entire United States, Natsi Bondsmith. I've heard heard or
34:59
Speaker 1: take she never leads, it's tell me what happened, what
35:04
Speaker 1: went on, never a planet. But I've heard others who
35:08
Speaker 1: I won't name. They lead the person right to where
35:13
Speaker 1: the hypnotist wants them to go. It's bad.
35:17
Speaker 2: That's exactly what Bud Hopkins was doing, and he was
35:20
Speaker 2: world famous for the UFO and alien abduction cases and
35:24
Speaker 2: all that. That's exactly what he was doing. He was
35:26
Speaker 2: leading all of these people to make them believe that
35:28
Speaker 2: they had had all these things so we could write
35:30
Speaker 2: books and make a lot of money off of the
35:32
Speaker 2: industry and go to all these conferences and get paid
35:36
Speaker 2: to do all that stuff. In these I mean, there's
35:39
Speaker 2: the Manhattan UFO incident or the Manhattan abduction incident on
35:43
Speaker 2: Netflix's a whole documentary series on it, and his wife
35:47
Speaker 2: that just passed away last year before the documentary even
35:50
Speaker 2: got released, is on there saying that he's essentially just
35:54
Speaker 2: making all this stuff up, that he's putting these people
35:56
Speaker 2: in some kind of trance like state, and he's leading
36:00
Speaker 2: them into making them believe that they can have all
36:03
Speaker 2: these experiences.
36:05
Speaker 1: That's that's a difficult case to put any credence into.
36:09
Speaker 1: It's just hard, very hard. And that's that one a
36:14
Speaker 1: lot of conflicts of interest, and.
36:16
Speaker 2: That one person that you know that you one hundred
36:19
Speaker 2: percent trust, that's one person out of how many.
36:23
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't even want to count, right.
36:25
Speaker 2: That's thousands. Just like I know one person out of
36:30
Speaker 2: probably thousands of people that I one hundred percent trust
36:34
Speaker 2: that is an incredible energy healer. One person they say
36:39
Speaker 2: their name or if no, I don't really want to
36:42
Speaker 2: mention their name, but I and I do know another
36:45
Speaker 2: person that I one hundred percent believe that is an
36:48
Speaker 2: incredible honest uh channeler as well. So it's like it's
36:55
Speaker 2: like one solid person out of the sea of like garbage.
37:02
Speaker 2: It's like a needle in a haystack to find these.
37:05
Speaker 4: People, right, they make a lot of money, I mean
37:08
Speaker 4: tons and tons of money doing this. Yeah, we know
37:13
Speaker 4: some people that do it, and we know some people
37:17
Speaker 4: that go to these people and they spend thousands of
37:19
Speaker 4: dollars and nothing happens.
37:21
Speaker 1: It's crazy, but.
37:22
Speaker 4: It's all in the hush hush, you know what I mean,
37:23
Speaker 4: Nobody really says anything.
37:25
Speaker 2: So that's right, it's a bit. It's a huge industry.
37:29
Speaker 2: It's a huge industry, and people selling products that.
37:32
Speaker 3: Don't work.
37:35
Speaker 2: Then, you know, like making up things like atlantis sand,
37:39
Speaker 2: like quantum entanglement gel like all these nonsensical things, And
37:45
Speaker 2: that's fine, like if people are gullible enough to believe
37:49
Speaker 2: that stuff and actually pay them money. Like I'm it
37:53
Speaker 2: is what it is. But it's just like the people
37:56
Speaker 2: that are actually out there that are trying to be
37:59
Speaker 2: honest and have integrity and you know, has a good
38:02
Speaker 2: ahead on their shoulders and like works at this stuff
38:05
Speaker 2: like completely get overlooked and then they get trashed and
38:09
Speaker 2: like thrown through the ringer and it doesn't make any sense.
38:11
Speaker 2: It makes a zero logical sense that it should be
38:14
Speaker 2: the opposite way around, right.
38:16
Speaker 1: Totally Okay, So are you into any kind of cryptid
38:20
Speaker 1: research at all?
38:23
Speaker 2: Well, I just had Brooke Morland on recently and she's
38:27
Speaker 2: a field investigator for bigfoot and cryptid research. She lives
38:33
Speaker 2: in Florida and she supposedly found a bigfoot or sasquatch print.
38:40
Speaker 2: And I'm kind of on the fence with the cryptid stuff,
38:43
Speaker 2: like it's kind of falls into the same realm as
38:47
Speaker 2: like extraterrestrials and aliens and stuff. It's like, you know,
38:52
Speaker 2: why is all the footage super blurry? Why is there
38:55
Speaker 2: not any clear footage of this kind of stuff? And
38:57
Speaker 2: as a filmmaker and a and an editor, it's like, well,
39:02
Speaker 2: the only reason that this stuff would be super blurry
39:04
Speaker 2: and look like it's filmed on a freaking early two
39:06
Speaker 2: thousands flip phone is if they're inserting something into the
39:09
Speaker 2: video and that they're trying to cover it up and
39:12
Speaker 2: that's the same with UFOs and supposed alien stuff, and
39:16
Speaker 2: there's some caveats to that too. Some of them might
39:18
Speaker 2: be really quick, they have to whip out their phone
39:20
Speaker 2: and it's not focused properly. But like none you're telling
39:25
Speaker 2: me as many people that has claimed to see Bigfoot
39:32
Speaker 2: or things that are in the woods or any of
39:34
Speaker 2: these cryptids, we have yet to have any clear, one
39:41
Speaker 2: good footage from it. And that's just me being super
39:45
Speaker 2: skeptical on the entire thing. And the way that it
39:48
Speaker 2: changes as well, and the way that it involves is
39:52
Speaker 2: another red flag for me. You know, like, once people
39:57
Speaker 2: don't see or have the physical evidence for some thing,
40:01
Speaker 2: then they switch and they change the narrative to all, well,
40:03
Speaker 2: it's it's interdimensional, it's it's extra dimensional. It's they're all
40:09
Speaker 2: around us, but you just can't see them. That type
40:12
Speaker 2: of thing. The mythology of it then changes, just like
40:18
Speaker 2: it's changed with ufology and UFOs. It was a physical
40:22
Speaker 2: craft before and now it's no longer a physical craft.
40:24
Speaker 2: Now it's an interdimensional craft. To the way that it
40:28
Speaker 2: can change and evolve, and I'm like, well, if if
40:34
Speaker 2: our technology that we're currently using evolved at the rapid
40:38
Speaker 2: pace that some of these people talk about the way
40:40
Speaker 2: that UFOs have evolved from a physical craft that goes
40:44
Speaker 2: around and can come from another planet and then somehow
40:47
Speaker 2: crash and land on our Earth. And then now it's
40:51
Speaker 2: like this has this ultimate ability of like cloaking technology
40:55
Speaker 2: and the ability to warp in and out of space
40:58
Speaker 2: time and go interdimension and I have all these crazy
41:01
Speaker 2: aspects to it. Just sixty seventy years later, if any
41:05
Speaker 2: of our technology that we use on a daily basis
41:08
Speaker 2: evolved the way that supposedly that technology evolved, we would
41:12
Speaker 2: be living in a Jutson's type universe.
41:17
Speaker 1: Well here's what.
41:18
Speaker 4: I think, I think we'd I don't know the answers
41:23
Speaker 4: I think. I think we're kept in the shadows with
41:26
Speaker 4: a lot of things.
41:27
Speaker 1: I know.
41:28
Speaker 4: I've had an experience where I saw something cloak in
41:30
Speaker 4: a cloud. I didn't even know that that could happen,
41:34
Speaker 4: And it was this weird, huge ship that had a
41:38
Speaker 4: bunch of pipes under it.
41:39
Speaker 1: It was just weird.
41:40
Speaker 4: It was strange, and a helicopter came and showed a spotlight.
41:43
Speaker 4: The government got involved, So that opened my eyes for
41:46
Speaker 4: a lot of things. But then when I talked about
41:47
Speaker 4: that to like his friends that are experts. They all say, oh,
41:52
Speaker 4: it's the government. I'm thinking, well, how do you how
41:55
Speaker 4: do you know? I don't I think it was a craft.
41:57
Speaker 4: I'm sure right, But how did they know it was
42:01
Speaker 4: just government? So I do believe there's lots of weird
42:04
Speaker 4: stuff out there, but I'm very I'm leary.
42:08
Speaker 1: Of a lot too. So it's like it's in the middle.
42:11
Speaker 4: There's half of my brain that's like into all this
42:13
Speaker 4: ship and the other half like, well, calm down, let's
42:16
Speaker 4: let's let's think about this.
42:18
Speaker 3: You know.
42:19
Speaker 1: Let me ask people that want to ask questions to
42:24
Speaker 1: type them in capital letters in the chat and I'll
42:27
Speaker 1: pose them to writer. You have another question, Oh, this
42:31
Speaker 1: is great, you can talk about whatever you want. This
42:34
Speaker 1: is fun.
42:35
Speaker 2: No, it's just it's so strange when you look back
42:38
Speaker 2: through the history of your apology in the way that
42:41
Speaker 2: is changing and evolved. And I think their original question
42:43
Speaker 2: had revolved around cryptis. And I'm still really on the
42:46
Speaker 2: fence about cryptids because some people's stories are really like,
42:53
Speaker 2: if they made it up, then they are a really
42:58
Speaker 2: good actor. But another pitfall of these things is some
43:03
Speaker 2: of this stuff happened when people were like really young,
43:08
Speaker 2: and we know that people's memories are like very fallible
43:11
Speaker 2: and things could have happened that necessarily didn't happen, or
43:17
Speaker 2: things that happened that they don't remember, and it becomes
43:20
Speaker 2: this weird teeter tottering effect of like what was real
43:24
Speaker 2: and what was fiction and what was made up? And
43:26
Speaker 2: because we know whenever trauma happens to us on an
43:32
Speaker 2: individual level, I mean they know this in the MK
43:35
Speaker 2: Ultra programs that when trauma happens, your brain will try
43:41
Speaker 2: and disguise that trauma with something that you know, like
43:46
Speaker 2: something that's comfortable to you. And instead of it being
43:51
Speaker 2: something really bad that happened to you in real life,
43:58
Speaker 2: you could have turned that in to something extraordinary to
44:02
Speaker 2: cover up the facts so that you don't remember that
44:05
Speaker 2: super traumatic thing that happened to you. I mean, that's
44:08
Speaker 2: just a default thing that happens in our brain.
44:13
Speaker 4: That's true. Okay.
44:15
Speaker 1: I have a question after Yeah, yeah, so we covered
44:18
Speaker 1: this partially, but do you have anything else you want
44:20
Speaker 1: to add on? What are your thoughts on Bigfoot?
44:24
Speaker 2: I think that it could be it could be legit.
44:27
Speaker 2: I mean, how many we know about so many other
44:31
Speaker 2: supposed human beings that were like us that has been
44:37
Speaker 2: found throughout history that doesn't have the exact same like
44:40
Speaker 2: the Homopithecus and a lot of those types of creatures
44:44
Speaker 2: that are similar to us but has a different DNA
44:48
Speaker 2: structure to us. And I guess it's just if you
44:53
Speaker 2: want to believe that they can live for hundreds and
44:57
Speaker 2: hundreds and hundreds of years, like if they can, and yeah,
45:03
Speaker 2: it would make sense that they're still around or maybe
45:05
Speaker 2: they're somehow, you know, repopulating, or that there's a male
45:11
Speaker 2: Bigfoot and a female Bigfoot and then they essentially repopulate
45:15
Speaker 2: the way that we repopulate as humans, and that could
45:18
Speaker 2: be how, But but there's been a lot of historical
45:23
Speaker 2: record of these types of entities that have existed throughout time,
45:30
Speaker 2: so it's it's hard to put a definitive answer on it.
45:35
Speaker 2: Trump released the big Foot files, and uh, then we'll
45:39
Speaker 2: know everything that the government knows on cryptids, because there's
45:41
Speaker 2: so many people that think that a lot of the
45:44
Speaker 2: cryptids are also government experiments that has gone awry, or
45:48
Speaker 2: that's escaped these types of facilities, or that they've kind
45:52
Speaker 2: of let out into the wild to kind of do
45:56
Speaker 2: their own thing.
45:56
Speaker 1: We have we have one audience member that takes it
45:59
Speaker 1: very very seriously. I wanted to prove to you how
46:03
Speaker 1: seriously he takes it. Hope, Sorry, wrong.
46:07
Speaker 2: One scotty boy. Scotty boy is always coming in with
46:14
Speaker 2: the jokes, old scotty boy.
46:18
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's let's chase topics a little bit. Okay,
46:22
Speaker 1: you're go, go for. I was about to go there. No, No, Brian, Brian.
46:29
Speaker 4: Last night we were talking about that, and I asked him,
46:32
Speaker 4: do you think that they're still doing mk ultra And
46:39
Speaker 4: do you think they're doing it to us in a
46:41
Speaker 4: more gentler way through you know, so little more ship?
46:44
Speaker 2: And you know absolutely, I mean that's what the media
46:51
Speaker 2: is used. Were just like how back in the fifties
46:55
Speaker 2: the United States government was essentially allowed to assauns and
46:58
Speaker 2: eight world leaders, right, and they were allowed to do that.
47:02
Speaker 2: That was I don't know how they were allowed to
47:05
Speaker 2: do it, but it's eventually Congress kind of came back
47:08
Speaker 2: and was like, hey, like, you can't do that anymore.
47:10
Speaker 2: You got to You can still do evil shit all
47:12
Speaker 2: that you want, but you can't be going out and
47:14
Speaker 2: assassinating world leaders. So then they found other ways to
47:18
Speaker 2: do it. But without Actually they kind of technically do
47:22
Speaker 2: still do cups and assassinations, but it's kind of under
47:26
Speaker 2: the guise of something else, and it looks like it's
47:29
Speaker 2: you know, this rogue person or whatever, which also I
47:32
Speaker 2: think gets into some remote viewing stuff as well, and
47:36
Speaker 2: remote influence, which I think is another aspect and another
47:39
Speaker 2: really deadly thing that can be used in a remote
47:41
Speaker 2: viewing sense. But just like how everything evolves, just like
47:46
Speaker 2: how I was talking about that the technology of these
47:48
Speaker 2: supposed UFOs dramatically shifted and changed, and just like how
47:52
Speaker 2: our technology from going from you know, rotary phones to
47:57
Speaker 2: car phones to sell phones to home you know, and
48:00
Speaker 2: it just keeps going on and on and on. I
48:04
Speaker 2: also think that MK ultra also evolved and it turns into,
48:09
Speaker 2: you know, something else that's a lot more subtle. They
48:13
Speaker 2: can't really be pinpointed down to a singular thing, but
48:18
Speaker 2: it's done a lot through symbolism. It's done through messaging, certainly,
48:25
Speaker 2: the way the neuro linguistic programming, the way that people
48:28
Speaker 2: phrase things, the way that people say things. It's very coded,
48:33
Speaker 2: but it is essentially the same message. And they've figured
48:36
Speaker 2: this out on an individual basis. For the public and everyone,
48:41
Speaker 2: and then they started doing it more on like groups,
48:45
Speaker 2: like groups of people. They're like, okay, well, how can
48:47
Speaker 2: we socially engineer this group of people over here that
48:51
Speaker 2: is maybe like a not a part of the group
48:56
Speaker 2: as a whole, that is like their own individual they
48:58
Speaker 2: have their own ideology on their own belief systems, has
49:01
Speaker 2: kind of split off from the mainstream group of people,
49:05
Speaker 2: sort of like the Jim Jones incident, where you know,
49:08
Speaker 2: he was taking these these people to you know, and
49:11
Speaker 2: it kind of seems like the that's the way to
49:13
Speaker 2: that I win. So it was like, let's figure this
49:14
Speaker 2: out on an individual level. Then let's scale that up
49:17
Speaker 2: a little bit. Let's see what we can do with
49:18
Speaker 2: like small groups of people, and then let's increase that
49:21
Speaker 2: a little bit to get it to a little bit
49:23
Speaker 2: larger groups of people. And then then once we got
49:26
Speaker 2: that down to perfect and we know exactly how to
49:30
Speaker 2: do that, then we can just expand it to everyone
49:32
Speaker 2: all at once, all the exact same time.
49:35
Speaker 1: And sorry, I'm sorry I interrupted.
49:38
Speaker 2: You got evidence of that through twenty twenty. I mean,
49:41
Speaker 2: that's essentially exactly what happened.
49:45
Speaker 1: So everybody and a brother is talking about what weird
49:48
Speaker 1: stuff is going on. It's served with all the crazy
49:50
Speaker 1: links about and talk about weird cult like things being
49:55
Speaker 1: done inside. What do you find and you and yourself
49:59
Speaker 1: and you listeners about CERN.
50:02
Speaker 2: Well, the whole CERN ritual thing started from a found
50:05
Speaker 2: footage fake film done by a bunch of college students
50:10
Speaker 2: at CERN where they were dressed up in these robes
50:13
Speaker 2: and it was kind of like a Blair Witch project
50:16
Speaker 2: style film or like a paranormal activity thing where it
50:19
Speaker 2: looks like it's real but it's really not real. And
50:22
Speaker 2: that's where a lot of the ritual stuff began because
50:25
Speaker 2: people they did this this found footage student art project
50:30
Speaker 2: at CERN, and they filmed this because there was this
50:34
Speaker 2: guy that was up like up on a balcony right
50:37
Speaker 2: and he was kind of peeking around the corner and
50:38
Speaker 2: he had his video camera up there. And then a
50:41
Speaker 2: bunch of these people walking in like black robes, and
50:43
Speaker 2: then they lay a girl down on the ground and
50:46
Speaker 2: then one dude has a knife and it looks like
50:49
Speaker 2: he's getting ready to like stabber and all that, and
50:53
Speaker 2: that's like a that's a fake so fake fake footage,
50:57
Speaker 2: but that got everything rolling on. Everything that's going on
51:00
Speaker 2: as cern you know, they're like sacrificing, they're opening up
51:05
Speaker 2: portals and to other realities and the guard particle. So
51:10
Speaker 2: it kind of became this this thing, this kind of
51:14
Speaker 2: like steeped in lore. And then SERN will pop up
51:18
Speaker 2: like every other year or so when when they're getting
51:22
Speaker 2: ready to turn it on again or run some tasks.
51:25
Speaker 2: Then it becomes a popular thing within the community as well,
51:28
Speaker 2: just like HARP did. Harp came. No one talked about
51:31
Speaker 2: HARP for a really long time, and then all of
51:34
Speaker 2: a sudden, when these hurricanes were about to hit Florida,
51:37
Speaker 2: everyone was like, oh, it's for it's HARP. And I
51:40
Speaker 2: mentioned a year ago on my show with Ryan Gable,
51:43
Speaker 2: I said, because I hadn't heard anything about HARP in
51:46
Speaker 2: like five to six years, HARP was a really big one.
51:49
Speaker 2: Like back in the mid two thousands. It was like
51:52
Speaker 2: everyone was talking about HARP weather modification facility up in Alaska,
51:57
Speaker 2: right and then it just went quiet. No one talked
51:59
Speaker 2: about it for a long time, and very recently I
52:03
Speaker 2: had Ryan Gable on which Ryan Gable is a host
52:06
Speaker 2: of the Secret Teachings radio show. He's a veteran radio host.
52:09
Speaker 2: He has been doing it for a really long time,
52:10
Speaker 2: with ten years, and I brought him on and I
52:13
Speaker 2: was like, we were talking about the Bermuda Triangle as well,
52:16
Speaker 2: because everyone kind of forgot about the Bermuda Triangle, Like,
52:18
Speaker 2: no one talks about the Bermuda Triangle in Florida anymore.
52:22
Speaker 2: But there's several triangles now, there's a great Laces triangles,
52:24
Speaker 2: There's Alaskan Triangle. There's another triangle that Brooke Morland brought
52:30
Speaker 2: up on my channel the other day. I'm not familiar
52:32
Speaker 2: with that one. But there's several triangles, but no one
52:34
Speaker 2: talked about the Bermuda Triangle. So we decided to do
52:36
Speaker 2: a show on the Bermuda Triangle just because no one
52:39
Speaker 2: had cided anything or mentioned it for a really long time.
52:42
Speaker 2: And then I mentioned in that show. I was like,
52:46
Speaker 2: why why does everyone? Why don't we bring up Harp again?
52:48
Speaker 2: No one talking about Harp? And then what do you know,
52:51
Speaker 2: six seven months later, everyone's yelling and screaming Harp with
52:56
Speaker 2: this hurricane that was getting ready to hit Florida.
52:58
Speaker 1: I have an embarrassed a mission to make. I almost
53:02
Speaker 1: never discuss Heart because I work on it and help
53:07
Speaker 1: build it, and it modifies things that happen in the
53:13
Speaker 1: ion a sphere. So it is doing some stuff with
53:17
Speaker 1: the ion a sphere. It's heating it up and stirring
53:20
Speaker 1: it up, so we can study the ionosphere. But because
53:24
Speaker 1: it does heating up in the atmosphere, all the weather
53:29
Speaker 1: is two layers below that in the troposphere. But people,
53:33
Speaker 1: you know, not everybody's trained, not everybody thinks about it correctly.
53:37
Speaker 1: So if they're stirring up the atmosphere is causing all
53:40
Speaker 1: our problems. So I just don't tell you because I
53:45
Speaker 1: don't want to deal with it.
53:47
Speaker 2: Well, I should bring you on my show then and
53:49
Speaker 2: we can talk about it, because that is I like
53:51
Speaker 2: to bring people on that has, like, you know, personal
53:54
Speaker 2: experience and knows about these things. Instead of letting the
53:58
Speaker 2: community just go out there and and run with it,
54:00
Speaker 2: I want a bunch of made up garbage and that
54:02
Speaker 2: they've never been there and you have no idea how
54:04
Speaker 2: harp even works.
54:06
Speaker 1: That's what the United States government and other governments use
54:12
Speaker 1: the ionosphere as a major source of communications capabilities When
54:20
Speaker 1: the satellites and other things don't work. They in other words,
54:23
Speaker 1: they have all sorts of fallbacks, and the ionosphere is
54:26
Speaker 1: one and they wanted to study its properties so they
54:30
Speaker 1: could predict when and how it would be usable and
54:34
Speaker 1: what they could expect of it. And it's just an
54:37
Speaker 1: This is a standard set of science that's done all
54:40
Speaker 1: the time, and it's just hard to know your hard
54:44
Speaker 1: work is lied to one of the biggest conspiracies.
54:49
Speaker 2: That's wild. That's really good. I love that that type
54:52
Speaker 2: of stuff because people don't know. People don't know this stuff.
54:55
Speaker 2: They don't know that that's what it's for, and that's
54:56
Speaker 2: what they were using as a communication techn that in
55:00
Speaker 2: case silent lights go down, then they have that backup
55:03
Speaker 2: to use as communications. You know that they have no
55:06
Speaker 2: idea because they're just listening to what people say about
55:10
Speaker 2: it on the Internet and what they think that it is,
55:13
Speaker 2: which leads to confusion and leads to these beliefs that
55:18
Speaker 2: they will hold on to no matter what. Anybody that's
55:21
Speaker 2: challenging those beliefs they attack and ridicule and talk about about.
55:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Dan Miller, h percent. But it's a
55:31
Speaker 1: special time. Your signal goes up and bounces straight back down.
55:36
Speaker 1: So it's like you get off the IONO sphere, you
55:39
Speaker 1: get a wide area network and uh that's near vertical
55:44
Speaker 1: incident signaling is ages old. It's the work use. It
55:49
Speaker 1: started in the forties, and so it's just people have
55:53
Speaker 1: gotten used to the Internet and cell phones and all
55:55
Speaker 1: this other stuff. So it seems strange, and everybody's worried
55:58
Speaker 1: about global warming and government conspiracies. So what can I say.
56:02
Speaker 1: It's just it's one of those things. I would be
56:05
Speaker 1: happy to come on to help try to debunk it.
56:08
Speaker 2: I would love that. Let's set this up. Let's set
56:10
Speaker 2: that up after we're done, because that's a that's a
56:13
Speaker 2: huge one that has becomes such a common place, a
56:17
Speaker 2: staple conspiracy within the community that I really believe needs
56:22
Speaker 2: to be exposed.
56:23
Speaker 1: Well, nobody ever comes out and explains it to the public.
56:27
Speaker 1: Nobody comes out.
56:28
Speaker 2: Because the government loves conspiracies.
56:31
Speaker 1: They love it because it distracts you from what they're
56:33
Speaker 1: really doing.
56:34
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, that's exactly right. We're on the
56:38
Speaker 2: same page there.
56:40
Speaker 1: Skyburner's full way loop antennas built many of them. Dave
56:44
Speaker 1: knows I'm a hamateur radio operator.
56:48
Speaker 2: But if you were talking to a true believer in
56:51
Speaker 2: harp that they're manipulating the weather right now, I would
56:54
Speaker 2: I would be calling saying that you're that you have
56:57
Speaker 2: no idea what you're talking about, even though you work there,
57:00
Speaker 2: and he's like, exit this call right now. Are just saying,
57:03
Speaker 2: Harperson the weather waterfication energy steering device that can control
57:08
Speaker 2: hurricanes in the weather.
57:09
Speaker 1: Okay, so look look at this gorgeous, sweet kind face
57:15
Speaker 1: and I have this gorgeous, sweet kind face. Girlfriend. We're
57:19
Speaker 1: just gorgeous. How could you think that these two gorgeous
57:23
Speaker 1: faces and nice people would do anything nasty with five G?
57:29
Speaker 1: And what I'll tell you now is I found it
57:32
Speaker 1: Federaraide Wireless, which is a five B five G selutor
57:38
Speaker 1: communications company. It's not nefarious.
57:46
Speaker 2: That's another that's another really big one as well. The
57:49
Speaker 2: whole five gen nonsense garbage was all promoted and went
57:54
Speaker 2: around the whole twenty twenty thing, and the people were
57:56
Speaker 2: all destroying freaking five G towers and I'm like, yo,
57:59
Speaker 2: you guys are stupid, Like you know that those five
58:02
Speaker 2: towers also supply three G and also supply four G
58:08
Speaker 2: like L.
58:09
Speaker 1: T E R five G. And it's gonna go. We're
58:13
Speaker 1: going over the It's I. I this got known and
58:17
Speaker 1: I got invited to come into a space and the space.
58:21
Speaker 1: I just said sure, I don't mind, came in and
58:24
Speaker 1: I was mobbed by some conspiracy theorists who thought five
58:29
Speaker 1: G was damaged on why the hell would I be
58:32
Speaker 1: so evil? I just calmly said, no, you're wrong. Here's
58:35
Speaker 1: what this is and what it did, and I stood
58:37
Speaker 1: it for about half an hour and told my head
58:39
Speaker 1: to go.
58:42
Speaker 2: That's what happens. That's what happens when you're actually when
58:48
Speaker 2: you're actually telling the truth, and to the best of
58:51
Speaker 2: your knowledge, it doesn't matter because it's all about the
58:56
Speaker 2: crazy speculation Harry Fairy upside down la theory that you
59:04
Speaker 2: can possibly think of that is more than likely one
59:07
Speaker 2: hund percent pure fiction that someone made while they were
59:09
Speaker 2: sitting on the toilet.
59:12
Speaker 1: You get more radiation from your microwave then you get
59:17
Speaker 1: from a five G tower because of the height above
59:20
Speaker 1: ground the antenna is and it's directionality toward the horizon. Okay, listen,
59:27
Speaker 1: it's been a great show. I love this. Oh yeah,
59:32
Speaker 1: tell her I'm gonna go there, but just let it.
59:35
Speaker 1: Let it hang around after we leave the air and
59:38
Speaker 1: we'll work out the deal. But please tell everybody your
59:42
Speaker 1: last thoughts, whatever you want to remember.
59:45
Speaker 2: Well, thanks for having me on. Guys, really appreciate it
59:47
Speaker 2: as an amazing conversation, really fascinating, and I'm glad that
59:51
Speaker 2: I shared it to my audience as well, so they
59:53
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59:57
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1:00:43
Speaker 1: One more conspiracy theory. One more. In nineteen sixty nine,
1:00:49
Speaker 1: as an amateur radio operator, I traveled sixty miles from
1:00:53
Speaker 1: my home and went to another amateur radio operator's house
1:00:57
Speaker 1: who had a very large, privately owned dish in his
1:01:01
Speaker 1: backyard and we pointed that dish at the moon and
1:01:07
Speaker 1: heard the astronauts directly from the moon. And with that,
1:01:13
Speaker 1: I want to wish everybody a good night. Thank you
1:01:16
Speaker 1: for being here, and we love doing these shows and
1:01:20
Speaker 1: hope you'll come back for our next one and we'll
1:01:22
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