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#192 - Andrew Bustamante (Ex-CIA Spy) Reveals All… Except Epstein · Brandon Fogal Evolution

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  Andrew Bustamati, he is a former ex-CIA spy.
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  He just went on to the diary of his CEO with Stephen Bartlett.
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  And he, with his wife, Jehe, he said it a couple times, her name,
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  in this video. They were both on there together, as you can see on the screen.
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  I have not followed this man that much, but he's doing his rounds on the podcast.
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  It sounds like he's going to fall off the map soon
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  and that's going to be self-inflicted he sounds like
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  in 2027 he wants to cut wants to
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  basically disappear from this world and not be
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  in the eyes of of anyone out there the normal regular
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  people anymore but this video what they
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  got into my eyes were completely opened
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  and i to things i felt like i i
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  should not even be hearing what he talked about that if
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  we're going to get into this but what he he basically
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  disclosed everything but when the when the
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  topic of epstein jeffrey epstein got brought up it seemed like there was a calculated
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  move or almost he knew that this question was coming up but he dialed it back
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  and same with jeehee she her answer was almost almost like that they had practiced
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  it and i know We're also going to take a look at,
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  he has been on Patrick Bet David on his podcast and they went through a lot
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  more in depth and that was a couple of weeks ago.
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  So I don't know if it was more rehearsing of knowing maybe we shouldn't go into it as much.
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  Almost like it just seemed like there was something being hidden.
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  And this guy is actually truly to the core CIA more than, I mean,
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  when you're CIA, you're CIA, but this was just, I'd never see,
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  I've never seen somebody just come out and just talk about these things like he has.
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  And it was really, the whole video was really cool. I liked all that they went into for the most part.
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  It's just the thing that stood out to me the most was the whole Epstein.
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  When that topic brought up, got brought up, it seemed like they were not comfortable
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  as they were talking about everything else.
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  But I want to take a look at this. This is him.
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  Steven is, he's curious. He's a curious dude. And he wants to talk about this.
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  He brings it up and because he wants some answers, he's had people on talking about Jeffrey Epstein.
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  And when he brings this up, this is towards the tail end of it,
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  a little bit of talking about it, but you can see almost a little bit of a defensive posture.
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  I don't know what it is about Jeffrey Epstein, who's a terrible person,
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  but it seems like Jeffrey Epstein, beyond the grave, gets underneath people's skins.
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  As we've seen it with Donald Trump, he doesn't want to talk about it.
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  And you see a little bit with Andrew right here, which I had not expected.
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  It's kind of caught me off guard, to be honest.
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  But I want to take a look at this. Just this is towards the tail end of their explanation of
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  of their interpretation of Jeffrey Epstein and what happened with him.
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  Do you think he was an agent?
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  I think he could have been. I think he fits the model of a very good reporting
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  asset, but I don't have enough evidence to say that it was actually one. Do you think he was?
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  I mean, I think even if he was, I don't know that it matters is what I think.
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  Like, even if he was, that doesn't mean that it's connected.
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  Because he was a lot of things.
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  So I think people are focused on it because it's interesting.
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  Yeah. Because it would be interesting if he was, and it would be interesting
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  if there was this conspiracy.
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  I think that's why people are focused on it. But I don't know that it really
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  matters, because in the grand scheme of things, I mean, it could be a lot of
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  things that led, you know.
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  Why are we talking about a dead guy who's not reporting? I think it's just the
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  allure of, right, people want answers.
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  Once the curiosity gap's open, people need to fill it with something. Correct.
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  When what the intelligence community believes is that in any given moment,
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  there are two penetrations of every intelligence service.
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  So why are we talking about the dead guy that we don't know about when we're
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  not talking about the dozens of arrests and cases that are made every year of
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  active moles, active penetrations that are inside of our intelligence community?
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  But with what he just said right there in talking about this,
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  he went into the down dirty stuff about the CIA and just things that I,
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  I mean, they're off in the background, their background noise to me.
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  And as well, as well as many regular people out there when it's really,
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  there is no privacy right now.
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  They can access anything at any time. They are completely familiar with.
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  Everything you're doing it's just if you're
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  a regular person out there that you're not a target you
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  they don't you know they don't care they they they're they have
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  more important things to deal with the cia does so
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  and their main thing is protecting the united states from abroad from people
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  from other countries and terrible foreign actors that are out there but really
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  it's it's kind of a good thing that we got them because you you need them but
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  it's it is almost a little bit shocking.
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  And I shared in this, listening to this video,
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  my life seems extremely boring after listening to Andrew Bustamati and all that
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  he talked about and everything that going on with the dealings of CIA and the
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  adventures he's been on there,
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  him and his wife, almost like a real life.
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  Almost the tail end of the True Lies movie.
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  If you've ever watched True Lies, it's like that is actually happening.
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  We always, I've always just thought like, oh man, that's just them embellishing.
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  Hollywood is just making it fun and games.
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  It's not really like that. It is definitely like that. And a whole lot more.
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  If somebody is married to somebody in the CIA and they talked about that in
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  the video, in their discussion, that the CIA encourages people to have relationships
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  and marry people within the CIA.
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  Because if you're married with somebody outside of it, you're sworn to secrecy.
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  How can you have a marriage if, if, if you can't share things,
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  if you can't actually tell what's really going on when everything you're saying
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  is a lie to the person that you are married with.
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  And we saw that the breakdown in the movie true lies, I want to go back and watch that sucker.
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  That was, that was a good one with Jamie Lee Curtis and Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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  They were, it was very good.
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  And it just shows that if you can't have if the lines of communication are down,
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  you're not going to have a happy marriage and you're going to be seeking things out else out there.
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  Them talking about this and the whole Epstein thing, because I want to shift back to that.
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  He went into a lot of different things with the CIA and kind of smoking out
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  the moles that are in there and the different things that he got into and way
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  beyond his comfort zone that just put him to his limits in a lot of ways.
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  And I know he's trained and severely trained, extremely trained.
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  But when it got brought up about Epstein, it seems like the CIA got to him again.
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  Like they're always going to get to you.
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  And he in this previous communication with Patrick David, he unleashed on Mossad.
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  Mossad is the one that if if Epstein was kind of an agent and he was working
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  for some government, he was probably involved with a lot of different ones out there.
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  I would venture to guess the CIA would be very acquainted with this dude that's
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  just out there and has these lines of just being controlled and puppeted by Mossad.
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  If Mossad has a hand on Epstein, the CIA definitely had a hand on Epstein.
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  So I don't know why if Andrew is just trying to just.
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  Well, we can't go there, we can't go there, and he gets a
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  little bit that defensive posture of it
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  even getting brought up and he almost he didn't
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  want to talk about it and I I don't think it's not him for lack
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  of not wanting to talk about it I think someone's getting
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  to him like you can go out and sell your book you can
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  talk about all these things but there's certain lines you do not cross and there's
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  certain things that's why that's why with the regular people out there that
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  are even talking about this on all the entertainment networks and all that we're
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  very curious about this Epstein situation that is being just pushed under the rug.
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  It's being pushed under the rug and nobody wants to go there because I think,
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  like I've said in a previous video, that Epstein situation was the iceberg.
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  We're seeing the very top of it, but underneath it's so much exposing of everything
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  that our government can't go there.
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  And if you get in, if you get in the know, if you get into that circle,
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  you better shut up and you better not talk about it because you're going to
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  the things that you don't have.
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  You don't you are not going to be allowed to live.
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  Probably if you actually pull the cover underneath this one,
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  you can talk about other all these other things and just excite, excite us about.
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  Wow, that is it's so crazy. So many things are happening. And there actually
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  is this constant warfare of spy like James Bond. That is happening daily and
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  to a next level in our world and in our society.
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  But when you touch on the Epstein thing, because I think that would...
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  Very much tarnish the CIA. You could say Mossad, Mossad probably did have,
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  they were controlling him, but you think that Epstein is being controlled by
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  Mossad, but the CIA doesn't know every single thing that is happening.
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  Are you, that is, are you kidding me?
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  That, that, if they can, if they're tapped into everything we do,
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  if they're listening constantly and he would have been a very specific target of interest.
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  The CIA was, if they're allowing Mossad to come in and control this guy,
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  they're probably pulling the levers behind the scene of even letting Mossad do that.
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  So that's just kind of a weird deal to me that Andrew got like this,
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  because I think this is something like the whole video was very,
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  it was gangbusters. It was good.
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  Like fireworks, everywhere.
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  They were all over the place. And what he was revealing, it was awesome.
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  And I'm glad he's going on to these podcasts and he's doing this,
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  but he's being, he's on a leash.
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  The CIA is only going to let him go so far. They can disappear you in an instant.
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  And he understands that he's lived it, which brings me to my,
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  I'm talking about the other podcast that he's gone on.
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  He's gone into a number of different ones out there, but there are some that
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  he hasn't gone on And one, and there's one in particular that he had,
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  he's almost being blackballed and he, he's not being allowed to come on.
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  And that's the Joe Rogan podcast, the biggest one out there.
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  And in this community, in this conversation with Patrick David,
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  he brings it up and it's pretty, it's pretty awesome to hear Andrew's take on
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  it because it's very enlightening. So you haven't done Tucker.
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  You, you've not, you've not done Rogan. I have not done Rogan.
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  Why haven't you done Rogan?
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  So rogan actually knowingly is
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  passing me up yeah so i have a book coming out i know we've we've talked about
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  it off camera i have a book coming up my publisher actually reached out to the
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  joe rogan show to make sure they were aware of me and my upcoming book and their
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  producer wrote back and said joe knows andy joe's been tracking andy and joe
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  joe does not want to talk to andy very interesting i don't know why.
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  I have a silly theory because when I interviewed with Lex, and I have tremendous
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  respect for Lex Friedman.
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  When I interviewed with Lex, it was before I really understood that during these
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  interviews, there's a bit of a game that you play with the host, right?
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  So I made Lex look bad. I'm so glad he said that because that is this whole
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  new wave that we're going into. I obviously love podcasting.
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  I'm doing it. I'm very interested in, I mean, almost, I don't need regular cable TV.
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  I am very satisfied with listening to podcasts and all the conversations that are had out there.
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  Having said that, as it grows, it becomes bigger and mainstream.
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  And this is where news headlines are made.
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  This is where it's living within these conversations that people are having.
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  It becomes its own weird deal because
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  like I just if you go on a podcast who
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  are you really getting on there who are you actually seeing because
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  the person that's being interviewed being talked to they could say all the things
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  in the world but they got to be so careful because they don't want to offend
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  the person that they're talking to because that's their podcast and they can
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  release whatever the hell they want you know of course if they just clip it
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  up and take things out of context,
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  they would become just regular news that is out there that we actually want
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  to throw up because we see like the CNNs and all the different regular news
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  networks that are out there are so corrupt because they push a storyline.
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  But now podcasts are almost becoming that in a certain sense because who are
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  you actually seeing because they have the final cut?
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  What actually goes out there? What actually gets released?
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  Am I going to change the, am I, if they make me look stupid in a certain thing,
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  in a certain part of the video, am I just going to kind of maybe cut that part out, not let it be seen?
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  That's where it becomes kind of weird because I've just seen like where Candace
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  Owens went on Tucker, his podcast, and she's almost like, you got to kiss up
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  to the person you're talking to because you're on a, you're on their show.
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  They're on their, you're on their show and it's, it becomes,
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  it's almost becoming a weird deal because you're not, you don't actually,
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  is it becoming a layer of not real podcasts were supposed to be the realest things in the world.
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  Joe Rogan made it awesome because you see beginning to end the whole conversation.
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  There's nothing taken out. You see everything.
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  It's something that makes somebody look stupid. It's there.
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  It doesn't, it doesn't get just withheld. And it
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  became that's real life we we we crave authenticity authenticity we crave seeing
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  what is actually happening and podcasts in the big names the big hitters out
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  there are almost maybe as their what's it called.
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  You're not self-esteem, but you're just, what's that I'm thinking of?
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  I found that if you try to say the word that you can't find,
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  you won't be able to find it.
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  As their ego, maybe that's where I was going with, their ego starts getting puffed up.
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  You don't really become as real as real as it gets anymore because you're going
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  to make things, you're pushing the narrative of you care about yourself.
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  You care about your podcast becoming the airwaves.
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  You care about your name getting bigger and bigger, as opposed to having the
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  real down-to-earth conversations. Even if it makes you look like a stupid idiot.
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  You want to suck the realness out of everything.
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  You don't want to be a puppet.
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  You don't want to be something fake out there. You want people to see what is really happening.
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  And if the, if the interview didn't go good, it didn't go good. Put it out there.
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  Show everything. I mean, that should be almost where we, we make it.
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  I know we want to cut everything up because it makes it interesting.
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  We want people to be locked in, but on every podcast, why can't we get like,
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  maybe put a, a code of ethics for podcasters out there, release the whole thing.
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  And then you can maybe make the,
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  the beauty beautified up version of it so that it makes you look good.
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  You got all the things, you kept the interest, you kept the retention,
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  all that good stuff, but then maybe have that everything.
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  It becomes the whole conversation needs to be seen or accessible, accessible.
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  This should be maybe something we raise up to everyone. Like if you want to
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  be, if you want to be in the crowd of the people that people trust,
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  this is what you put out there, you know?
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  And I know it's not great. I know it's not because it might make you look stupid.
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  You know, your career might be devoured, but who cares?
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  Who cares? And which leads me into my final point, all this stuff,
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  you know, we can get into the CIA, all these things happen in this world because
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  there are a lot of crazy things happen in this world.
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  And it seems like it's getting crazier by the moment as things are escalating
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  in degrees we have not ever even thought to comprehend.
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  Things are getting crazier by the day, by the moment.
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  And I think that shows you the times that we are in, the times that we are in,
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  and just things are coming to light and everything that's out there.
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  And I think that as we realize the times that we're in, if you are not burying
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  your head in the sand and you're actually open to what's coming down the pike.
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  Because something big, I believe, is about to come down the pike.
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  And these government agencies out
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  there or whatever, they can just in an instant, just you are off the map.
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  Your voice will be completely covered. I've had this recently about TikTok out there.
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  I love TikTok. I love TikTok. They're so good.
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  But I'm actually almost repulsed by TikTok. I'm just going to say it.
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  I am repulsed by TikTok right now.
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  I don't even want to post on TikTok out there because of things that I've just put out there.
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  And I don't and it's just being pulled down. It's making me sicker by the day.
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  I and they're all susceptible to it.
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  All these platforms that we post on and we think we have our voice out there.
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  It's out there. Everybody can hear us.
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  That's cool and all. You know, I have freedom of speech. I can say whatever I want. Yay.
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  But then your voice can be pulled down in a second.
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  You can be just bye-bye. See ya.
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  You're done. You're done. You say anything on a line, you're done.
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  And I used to think like, oh, it wouldn't be so bad if China took over.
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  I mean, they'd be nice. We'd eat a lot of good Chinese food.
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  With a dictatorship like that, you know, you really do see that if you actually
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  want a voice and be able to speak, those aren't the ways to go about it, you know?
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  And I think we need to put a little bit of American in everything because.
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  I'm about, you know, I'm, I am becoming, you know, Mel Gibson,
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  you know, the Patriot, you know, Braveheart, we need to fight for freedom.
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  And these platforms, I know they are, I want to, I've always like held back
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  in a lot of the ways because I'm in their house.
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  I'm in, that's why I guess I, with TikTok, I'm still using the platform and
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  I'm not posting anything on there because it's ridiculous, the things that they're
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  pulling down, but it's their house. It's their platform.
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  Play by the rules. Take off your shoes when you walk in, I guess, kind of thing.
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  And be nice, play nice. And as I'm not on there, I feel like I just,
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  in my heart of hearts, it's detestable, you know, what they're doing in some ways.
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  And even YouTube, even YouTube can kind of, they have their words you don't
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  say, they have your topics you don't go into.
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  And I think that we're living on borrowed capital of what Elon Musk did with X.
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  And that should go down as like a huge thing that we all respect and look back
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  to that he, at least for a little while longer,
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  kept the ability for people to say freely, post freely what they think.
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  And we're living on that borrowed capital, that borrowed land in time.
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  And who knows how long it will last. I guess if with the Trump administration,
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  the having them, I at least feel a lot better about having them.
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  Then the opposite direction we would have went if Trump had lost the election.
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  And that goes, I mean, that brings me up to the whole, I'm not,
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  I, I'm just going to say it just because it's on, he's been on my mind a lot. On my mind.
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  Nick Fuentes. I'm always, he's always on my mind.
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  Like I, there are a lot of things about him.
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  I'm not going to go down his whole trail and a rabbit trail and all the things
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  that he's doing, but something about him.
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  I, he, I think he just, he is, he is, he's more of the Joker than me.
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  And I love the Joker. He, he just, he's such an idealist, which is good,
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  but almost that he's completely just wanting to destroy and decimate Trump,
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  his administration, his crew,
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  his, what he's doing, because it's not the perfect.
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  And it's like, he reminds me of someone that is never satisfied.
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  And I, maybe that's a good thing. You shouldn't be satisfied to an extent,
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  but if you're actively wanting to oppose and destroy, because it's not the perfect
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  ideal, where are you actually going to get to?
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  Where are you actually going to get to of making a difference,
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  of making this world better or making America first,
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  you know, better in actuality when you just are one, why not still criticize
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  the hell of things that aren't perfect and great at what you want,
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  but don't be actively a gift against.
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  We know that is good with the Trump administration. What they are doing is good,
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  you know, support that as opposed to finding everything to criticize and critique about.
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  I had to say that because, I mean, I like that he's out there.
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  I like that he's been released, you know, from his cage.
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  You know, what he was put into, nobody was seeing the light of day of him.
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  But I think he's going about it.
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  And I think that's that lack of maturity that he has not apprehended yet.
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  That you got to not go along to get along, you know, but don't be just,
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  find the good in some things, find the good in some things, but not just see the bad in everything.
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  And that's, that's how, how I am seeing what he's doing right now.
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  But overall, I talking about this, Andrew Bustamati, I would bring it back home to Joe Rogan.
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  Don't be, don't be mad because he might, him going on Lex Friedman's show made
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  him look kind of silly or made him, his podcast, he got tarnished a little bit.
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  His reputation, because he maybe asked a silly question or a dumb question,
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  whatever it is that he got raked over the coal spore, don't be,
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  that be something that you're not going to bring on this guy,
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  Andrew Bustamati, Monty, however you say it,
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  if you're not, that be something, and that might not even be the reason at all,
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  but he, this guy is certainly a hot commodity, certainly a guy that if he's
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  going to go off the face of the map soon, he's going to take himself out of this world.
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  He might be somebody that you want to get on there and talk through these things.
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  Be inquisitive and like you are and get to the all that he knows.
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  You're going to be the one that's going to be able to find those gems in there
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  that no one else is able to.
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  So I'm just absolutely surprised. I mean, he doesn't bring on there amazing
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  people all the time. Joe makes the show. He makes the show.
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  But a lot of times the guests that he has on there, they're not, they're not awesome.
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  They're not, they're not always awesome.
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  And this guy would certainly be somebody that would fit the MO of getting what
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  is going on in the government.
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  These things that maybe that Stephen Bartlett didn't know to ask or didn't want
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  to push because he's, he's got his whole deal.
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  He's got his whole thing and he's staying in his lane.
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  There's maybe a lot of things that Joe Rogan could find and kind of unearth in talking with Andrew.
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  So I was very highly encouraged Joe to bring him on.
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  But all right, we'll leave it at that. Follow me on X and Instagram at Brandon
• 23:57
  Fogle, and we'll leave it at that. See y'all.