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Jaguars Challenges and Benefits of Bucs Joint Practices | Jaguars Happy Hour · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, August fifteenth. This is Jaguars Happy Hour,
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Speaker 1: and now Billie Eilish's inspiration for Birds of a Feather. J. P.
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Speaker 2: Chatrick, I don't know what that means. Welcome in.
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Speaker 3: It's Jaguars Happy Hour. It is Thursday, August fifteenth. We've
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Speaker 3: got a busy hour ahead, in fact two hours, because
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Speaker 3: the Doug Peterson Show begins at five o'clock. Coming up
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Speaker 3: in this hour Buccaneers Jaguars practices. We'll have the standouts
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Speaker 3: from those practices. Starting reps on the practice field this
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Speaker 3: week preseason week two, the matchup between the Bucks and
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Speaker 3: the Jaguars coming up this Saturday, And of course says
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Speaker 2: Shadwick at logs five to six.
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Speaker 3: Jeff Logoman joins me now from the Hyundai studios at
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Speaker 3: the Miller Electric Center.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, how are you? Yeah, Yeah, I'm good. I'm good.
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Speaker 3: Fresh off of two days of practice with the Tampa
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Speaker 3: Bay Buccaneers. It's way better than regular training camp. But
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Speaker 3: like last year going to Detroit, it was great because
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Speaker 3: it was a change of scenery. It was kind of
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Speaker 3: a little bit of a road trip. Oh, by the way,
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Speaker 3: they also happened to have a classic car show going
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Speaker 3: on at the same time. But you know, Tampa Bay
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Speaker 3: coming in here, great repetitions, great opportunity to evaluate your
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Speaker 3: guys against other NFL caliber talent. Then that was pretty
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Speaker 3: much yesterday, but today not so much. Today was a
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Speaker 3: little different. They had they took the pads off, and
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Speaker 3: you know, it wasn't quite as strenuous of a practice
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Speaker 3: it was. It was a very lax tempo. I mean,
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Speaker 3: I don't want to say walk through tempo. It was
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Speaker 3: more than that, a little bit more than that, but
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Speaker 3: it wasn't It wasn't like a highly competitive first four
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Speaker 3: days of training camp practice where guys are competing against
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Speaker 3: each other. When you're practicing against you know, your own team.
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Speaker 3: It was definitely a much lighter, casual pace.
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Speaker 2: Than that kind of of a pace.
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Speaker 3: But you know, it's part of the deal. You know,
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Speaker 3: you both teams don't want to have the pads on.
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Speaker 3: I guess it's today's NFL. You know, they didn't want
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Speaker 3: to have the pads on two days prior to the
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Speaker 3: preseason game number two, and it's a controlled environment. So
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Speaker 3: the first day is tough, it's demanding, it's physical, it's competitive,
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Speaker 3: and then the second day with the with the other team,
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Speaker 3: it's you know, it is what it is.
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Speaker 2: I will say.
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Speaker 3: On Wednesday, during the joint practice, of course, both fields
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Speaker 3: are going at the same time. When there was seven
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Speaker 3: on seven on one end, there was one on one
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Speaker 3: pass rush on the other end, both teams against each other.
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Speaker 3: You kind of have to pick where you're gonna watch.
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Speaker 3: You can't watch it all at once. There's a lot
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Speaker 3: of action going on, which is the best way to
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Speaker 3: do it, the most efficient way to do it. Everybody
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Speaker 3: on that field was getting some kind of work in
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Speaker 3: at the same time. Yeah, you got to kind of
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Speaker 3: pick what you're gonna watch. And then also at some
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Speaker 3: stages they had some people in the Miller Electric Center
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Speaker 3: indoor facility, so I mean that really could be in
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Speaker 3: the Yeah, there's really three kind of places to where
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Speaker 3: your eye is going to be at, you know, but.
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Speaker 2: The specialists in the air conditioning of course.
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Speaker 3: Well, the offensive lineman and defensive linemen. We're in there
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Speaker 3: for a little bit too, now, JP. I mean, those
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Speaker 3: guys they like the cool environment, and obviously for good reason,
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Speaker 3: because they're.
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Speaker 2: Very large animals.
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Speaker 3: I can tell you that large animals, you know, sweat
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Speaker 3: profusely and like air conditioning. I'm one of them, used
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Speaker 3: to be. I'm not so large anymore. But it was
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Speaker 3: good and I really liked the practice yesterday, and I
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Speaker 3: get the benefit of yes during practice, my eyes can
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Speaker 3: only be in one spot, but then the eye and
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Speaker 3: the sky can give me the other plays at a
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Speaker 3: later date, I can watched the film of the practice,
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Speaker 3: and so I was able to watch the film last
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Speaker 3: night to watch all of it again, and that was
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Speaker 3: really good. I can tell you just a couple of takeaways.
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Speaker 3: The Jaguars offensive line I thought did a really good
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Speaker 3: job in one on one pass rush, which was which
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Speaker 3: was impressive. The Jaguars defensive line along the same lines,
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Speaker 3: I thought dominated pass rush. Josh heinz Allen was I mean,
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Speaker 3: I'm talking on a roll and he lined up at
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Speaker 3: right end, he lined up at left end, he lined
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Speaker 3: up at defensive tackle. I think he won every single rep.
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Speaker 3: I mean, he beat up Tristan Wurf's on two consecutive plays,
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Speaker 3: and it was like, dang, Josh, go ahead, and Tristan
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Speaker 3: Wurf's is the highest paid left tackle in football, and Josh,
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Speaker 3: I mean, now, once they got the team, Tristan even
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Speaker 3: things up a little bit. And pass rush is a
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Speaker 3: little bit of an advantage, PASSELLI will claim that it
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Speaker 3: is a major advantage for defensive linemans. Sure, I say
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Speaker 3: it's a little bit of an advantage. But yeah, that
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Speaker 3: was impressive. And once they got the teams, I mean,
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Speaker 3: just an overall look, I thought the Jaguars offense in
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Speaker 3: seven on seven they were good, but once they got
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Speaker 3: the team they slowed down a little bit.
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Speaker 2: I thought Tampa controlled the line of scrimmage.
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Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, they've got a guy who
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Speaker 3: wears number fifty who's pretty good. Last name three letters,
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Speaker 3: v e A. That means really good. Yeah, that's what
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Speaker 3: it should say across the back of the jersey instead
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Speaker 3: of ayah, it should say really good. Yeah, Vita Vea
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Speaker 3: probably the top nose tackle in the game today.
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Speaker 2: He's good, man? Is he good?
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Speaker 3: So it did feel like to your point that in
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Speaker 3: the team periods yesterday on Wednesday, that Trevor had some
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Speaker 3: traffic back there, so.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, see a little bit, and then a few would
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Speaker 2: have been sacks.
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Speaker 3: You know, he would have sacked like there was a
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Speaker 3: long ball that was completed to Brian Thomas and in
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Speaker 3: a real game, he would have been sacked before the
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Speaker 3: ball even got out, which which you know, that's part
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Speaker 3: of the deal. I thought that much like last year's
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Speaker 3: game in Tampa, I thought that the line of scrimmage
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Speaker 3: in the Jaguars offense versus the Buccaneers defense on that
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Speaker 3: field during team I thought the Buccaneers got a bit
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Speaker 3: of the upper hand in that, But then on the
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Speaker 3: flip side of that, on the other field, the Buccaneers offense,
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Speaker 3: I thought the Jaguars defense had the upper hand over
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Speaker 3: there a little bit. So good overall work, though Tampa
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Speaker 3: Bay's got some I think the best part of this
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Speaker 3: for this football team was for the offense. And that's
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Speaker 3: why my eyes were on the Jaguars offensive field, because
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Speaker 3: Todd Bowles knows defense arguably better than maybe anybody in
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Speaker 3: the National Football League. He is a really good coach
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Speaker 3: and he has really well taught, well disciplined players with
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Speaker 3: his defense, and I thought that was the big challenge
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Speaker 3: for these days of combined practice, and so really good
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Speaker 3: work there. Now the Buccaneers offense, they've got some challenges
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Speaker 3: there as well. They've got a couple of wide receivers
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Speaker 3: that are just unbelievable. Absolute running back that's really talented
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Speaker 3: both carrying the ball and out of the backfield. So
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Speaker 3: some good challenges there. Baker Mayfield, you know, I don't
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Speaker 3: want to say he's an upper echelon quarterback, but he's
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Speaker 3: He's a solid quarterback. But then you give him two
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Speaker 3: wide receivers like he has with Godwin and Mike Evans,
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Speaker 3: who walked by me today, I'm like, see he really
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Speaker 3: is that he is?
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Speaker 2: Ye, it's impressive.
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Speaker 3: You mentioned the Bucks defense, and they've got a player
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Speaker 3: at each level that's either a Pro bowler or an
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Speaker 3: All Pro talent, starting with veya up front of the
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Speaker 3: nose tackle position, Levante David inside lineback in tooth, and
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Speaker 3: then Antoine Winfield junior at at the back end at safety.
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Speaker 3: That's just the name three. They've got other guys that
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Speaker 3: can play as well. But this is a good talented
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Speaker 3: group of personnel, not just the play caller and the
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Speaker 3: scheme and everything. But you got to have the guys
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Speaker 3: to go in there and plug and play well. And
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Speaker 3: are they were missing a few guys a practice Tyron Shoyinka,
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Speaker 3: is that it did? I say that right?
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Speaker 2: Yes?
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Speaker 3: He was their first round pick last year, right, Yes,
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Speaker 3: he didn't get a ton of snaps. Yaya Diabi linebacker,
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Speaker 3: didn't get a ton of snaps. Uh, Elijah Cansey didn't
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Speaker 3: get a ton of snaps in practice. Had a few
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Speaker 3: guys sitting out because of injury. But yeah, I mean
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Speaker 3: the guys that you're talking about, Anton Antoine, Winfield, Levante
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Speaker 3: David Vida Veya, I mean those are three really good players.
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Speaker 3: And you know, if you had to pick one guy, uh,
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Speaker 3: that is probably the most challenging for for the Jaguars.
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Speaker 3: I would say Veya and then Winfield. Veya because he's
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Speaker 3: just so powerful, Winfield because he's he's one of the
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Speaker 3: best center fielders in the business. And Uh, on the
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Speaker 3: on the flip side of that, you know, offensively, the
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Speaker 3: Mike Evans is obviously the biggest challenge there. Offensive line wise,
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Speaker 3: the Bucks are kind of just okay. They drafted a
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Speaker 3: first round pick from Duke who was a tackle that
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Speaker 3: are converting to centers, so they've got some challenges along
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Speaker 3: their offensive line. I liked the and I watched a
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Speaker 3: lot more of the defense today than I did yesterday.
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Speaker 3: I was kind of leaning more towards the Jags offense yesterday,
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Speaker 3: so I wanted to kind of see how they're performing
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Speaker 3: today and Mike Evans, and to your point too, they
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Speaker 3: didn't have pads on today. It's a little different feel.
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Speaker 3: But Evans wasn't like beating guys deep. It was he
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Speaker 3: has He's been at it so long. He just knows
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Speaker 3: the little nuances of how to get open, whether it's
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Speaker 3: a just some kind of cut, some kind of move
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Speaker 3: here there, and he uses his body really certainly does.
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Speaker 3: And it's not like he's five yards wide open. He
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Speaker 3: might be two yards wide open, and jp he got
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Speaker 3: arms this long, he's five yards wide open all of
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Speaker 3: a sudden, right, So there was some of that, and
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Speaker 3: there's some young corners who were lined up against him,
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Speaker 3: and that's a good learning, great experience for this secondary.
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Speaker 3: A lot of these young guys that maybe be on
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Speaker 3: the second team right now, but they got to line
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Speaker 3: up against the first team Bucks offense today and you know,
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Speaker 3: they get a good taste of that and it gets
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Speaker 3: great work, and there's a and when you talk about
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Speaker 3: the Bucks wide receivers and having to be an opportunity
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Speaker 3: for great work for the Jaguars secondary, you know, when
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Speaker 3: you look at the Jaguars back end, I mean that
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Speaker 3: might be one of the biggest question marks, you know,
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Speaker 3: when you're talking about, oh, what are they going to
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Speaker 3: do for the final roster, right, you know, the corner position.
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Speaker 3: I think in the safety position because you've had a
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Speaker 3: little bit of an injury there with Wingard, I think
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Speaker 3: it's it's going to be really, really an unknown as
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Speaker 3: far as which direction they're definitely going to go on
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Speaker 3: the back end. So I think this game against the Bucks,
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Speaker 3: because we're not expecting a lot of starters to play
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Speaker 3: on Saturday night, this is a great opportunity for these
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Speaker 3: guys that are on that bubble to show what they've
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Speaker 3: got to let the coaches know and the personnel people.
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Speaker 3: Trent balking Is staff, Hey, look here's what I've got.
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Speaker 3: Here's what I can do, because you know your opportunity
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Speaker 3: and he's going forward are very small.
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Speaker 2: One of those.
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Speaker 3: Guys that the coaches have mentioned in press conferences and
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Speaker 3: things is a guy like Eric Hallett, the second and
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Speaker 3: I stood there on the practice field today and watched
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Speaker 3: him pick off Kyle Trast twice in drills today.
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Speaker 2: And just plays like that.
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Speaker 3: And you know that stands out even on practice field
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Speaker 3: the last two days. These are big reps and things
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Speaker 3: you go back and see. But then if you do
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Speaker 3: that again under the lights on Saturday night, that goes
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Speaker 3: along with the lights, are you that's the big thing.
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Speaker 3: If Hallett does that in training camp and a practice, okay,
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Speaker 3: you kind of take notice, okay, but if it doesn't
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Speaker 3: happen in a game, then you kind of forget about it.
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Speaker 3: And let me ask you this question. Yes, ha, Hallett
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Speaker 3: stood out to you in any way, shape or form
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Speaker 3: prior to getting a couple of picks. I mean not consistently, man,
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Speaker 3: that's kind of you know, that's where it's at. So
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Speaker 3: I mean, if you want people to take notice, and
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Speaker 3: you know, we're not the personnel guys, but personnel guys
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Speaker 3: are like us, do we notice? You know if he's
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Speaker 3: not making plays? Well, he made two plays today. Now
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Speaker 3: you're like, okay, now show it to me in a game.
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Speaker 3: See okay, So like Edmunds, Okay, the safety made two
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Speaker 3: really nice plays in the ball game caused a couple
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Speaker 3: of fumbles. Okay, really nice. Now the question mark is
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Speaker 3: you're not going to be a starting safety.
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Speaker 2: What role are you gonna fill?
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Speaker 3: Where do you really need to show the impact to
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Speaker 3: make this football team? Well, that's on special teams. So
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Speaker 3: I think his special team performance going forward is going
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Speaker 3: to be critical. So if you're trying to figure out
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Speaker 3: who's going to make a team, it's not always about
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Speaker 3: how good they play on offense and how good they
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Speaker 3: play on defense. I'll give you a perfect example. Go
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Speaker 3: to the offense wide receiver group. You've got your top
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Speaker 3: three guys, okay, Brian Thomas Junior, Christian Kirk, and Gabe Davis. Okay,
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Speaker 3: those are your top three guys. Who do you think
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Speaker 3: might be number four? Parker was Parker Washington? Okay, So
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Speaker 3: you got four wide receivers.
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Speaker 2: Okay. Now who ever is active on games, he's your
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Speaker 2: kick returner.
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Speaker 3: The five yeah, okay, So you've got five wide receivers
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Speaker 3: that are gonna be active on game day, okay, and
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Speaker 3: all of them have a role a significant role on offense.
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Speaker 3: And then Parker Washington and Duverney on special teams. Your
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Speaker 3: top three are gonna be offensive for the most part.
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Speaker 3: Only once you get to four, five, and six on
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Speaker 3: game day, those guys got to play special teams. So
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Speaker 3: now we've got Parker, Washington, and DuVernay. So now who
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Speaker 3: are we gonna make number six active on game day?
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Speaker 3: It's a great question. First of all, the question is
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Speaker 3: let's define his role. What is he gonna do? Is
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Speaker 3: he gonna play offense if those other guys are healthy,
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Speaker 3: most likely not, probably not, So his role will be
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Speaker 3: special teams.
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Speaker 2: Correct. That means gunner.
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Speaker 3: That means anything you can think of, something core for
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Speaker 3: special teamer. So that player has to be really good
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Speaker 3: on special teams. He's got to be capable as a
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Speaker 3: wide receiver. Doesn't mean that he has to be a monster.
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Speaker 3: If he's a monster, he's somewhere in the top three.
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Speaker 3: If he's not somewhere in the top three, then he
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Speaker 3: has to be a baller on special team. So that's
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Speaker 3: the stuff you got to be looking for in a
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Speaker 3: game like this this week. For those guys that are
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Speaker 3: right there trying to figure out, you know, who's gonna
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Speaker 3: end up fitting at that last wide receiver spot. And
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Speaker 3: Elijah Cooks, Tim Jones are those type of guys what
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Speaker 3: are they doing on special teams? You know Elijah Cook's
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Speaker 3: a big wide receiver. Can he do what Tim Jones
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Speaker 3: does on special teams?
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Speaker 2: Tim Jones has three years of experience.
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Speaker 3: Doing it again, got a little bit of a head start.
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Speaker 3: Doesn't mean the ground can't be made up. But but
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Speaker 3: will it happen this weekend next?
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: We're running out of practices. We've got to prove it
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Speaker 3: Jaguars YouTube back in a moment and we'll hear from
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Speaker 3: Jags quarterback Mac Jones. We'll get some time this Saturday night.
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Speaker 3: It's Jaguars Happy Hour.
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Speaker 2: I think it's great.
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Speaker 4: I think you know, when people say that's a bad thing,
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Speaker 4: I think it's a great thing. I think you obviously
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Speaker 4: want to have continuality with a certain person, but at
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Speaker 4: the end of the day, you're learning from each person's backgrounds.
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Speaker 4: You know, I think of coach table at Alabama, Sark
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Speaker 4: Mike Loxley. So it's like you're getting different coaching backgrounds
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Speaker 4: from everywhere. I mean, obviously, you know in New England
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Speaker 4: you get a lot of good coach in there too,
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Speaker 4: so and then here with Doug has been awesome. He's
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Speaker 4: a great quarterback mind. And like I said, I'm taking
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Speaker 4: from each each coach, taking what I want and what
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Speaker 4: I want to know and what I want to learn.
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Speaker 4: And it's been a great time here. I feel like
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Speaker 4: I've learned a lot about offensive football here, so I'm
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Speaker 4: definitely gonna try and add that to my game.
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Speaker 3: That's Mac Jones today after practice Jaguars backup Quarterback Welcome
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Speaker 3: Back is Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shadwick, Jeff Floghman for
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Speaker 2: Mac Jones and CJ.
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Speaker 3: Bethett will each get a half of action on Saturday
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Speaker 3: night against the Buccaneers. Doug Peterson did not say who
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Speaker 3: would be the first quarterback out there officially Mac Jones, though,
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Speaker 3: I guess I go, yeah, I think it's going to
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Speaker 3: be Mac Jones. His point with his SoundBite we just
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Speaker 3: heard there today. I asked him about all the changes
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Speaker 3: he's had in offenses in his career. He had three
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Speaker 3: different coordinators at Alabama, he had three different play callers.
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Speaker 2: In New England. And he said, in the middle of
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Speaker 2: me asking the question, at least.
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Speaker 3: And then now he's got a new offense here in Jacksonville,
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Speaker 3: And that was his answer. You know what, I take
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Speaker 3: a little bit from everything. You kind of have to
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Speaker 3: start over again. And it's a different role for him altogether.
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Speaker 3: And I think he's just kind of embracing what it.
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Speaker 2: Is right now.
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Speaker 3: I think you can really tell that he's enjoying himself.
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Speaker 3: You know, a New England, you know that you've got
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Speaker 3: the pressure to perform number one, you're replacing the goat
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Speaker 3: Tom Brady. And I don't know if the environment was
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Speaker 3: very conducive to success that Mac Jones had to go
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Speaker 3: through New England with the different coordinators and some coordinators
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Speaker 3: that didn't even come from that side of the ball.
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Speaker 3: I don't know how that happened. With one of the
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Speaker 3: greatest coaches of all time. I'm not sure why Belichick
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Speaker 3: allowed that to happen, but nonetheless, look, he's having a
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Speaker 3: great time. You know all the players that you talked to,
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Speaker 3: and you asked those players on the team about Mac Jones.
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Speaker 3: You know, I think Trevor's used the term bubbly has
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Speaker 3: been one other coaches have used the term quirky and bubbly,
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Speaker 3: you know, together.
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Speaker 2: But you can tell the guys having fun.
17:51
Speaker 3: He's having fun, and the interactions that he has with
17:54
Speaker 3: his teammates, you can tell that it's well received. And
17:57
Speaker 3: you know what I like about him is that he's
17:59
Speaker 3: performing well. Is he going to supplant Trevor? I mean,
18:03
Speaker 3: anybody who says that, come on, you know, find something,
18:06
Speaker 3: find something else to talk about or to think about.
18:09
Speaker 3: This is Trevor's football team. But what I like about
18:11
Speaker 3: Mac Jones, I think he's the better backup quarterback. I
18:15
Speaker 3: think all three have an opportunity to be on this
18:17
Speaker 3: football team in one way, shape or form. But with
18:21
Speaker 3: Mac Jones, you're not going to change the offense at all.
18:25
Speaker 3: If all of a sudden, Trevor is out and Mac
18:28
Speaker 3: Jones is in. Because I really believe this. Mac Jones
18:31
Speaker 3: can do very similar things to Trevor, not I don't
18:35
Speaker 3: think to the level, but the arm strength he can
18:38
Speaker 3: throw all the throws that Trevor does not quite as well. Again,
18:42
Speaker 3: but so like a radical example would be like Lamar Jackson.
18:48
Speaker 3: If you had Lamar Jackson, who would you like to
18:50
Speaker 3: have him be the backup quarterback? Might it be Matt
18:54
Speaker 3: Ryan or Joe Flacco. No, because that's not the style
18:59
Speaker 3: of offense that Baltimore has for Lamar Jackson, But you
19:03
Speaker 3: might want to have somebody that might be mobile, like
19:05
Speaker 3: somebody that's very similar to that, like a Michael Vick type,
19:10
Speaker 3: somebody that can run and has a great gift. And
19:13
Speaker 3: obviously I'm using a old player. Yeah, and just to
19:17
Speaker 3: kind of, you know, to use that as an example.
19:20
Speaker 3: So but I like him. I like Mac Jones. Another
19:22
Speaker 3: thing I asked him today was, you know, this is
19:25
Speaker 3: a different role for you. Obviously after the next two
19:29
Speaker 3: weeks you might not get any playing time at all,
19:31
Speaker 3: like or practice time. So how much pressure do you
19:34
Speaker 3: put yourself for these two weeks? He's like, yeah, it's there,
19:37
Speaker 3: but you still just kind of go through the process
19:40
Speaker 3: and treat it as you normally would. But he understands
19:42
Speaker 3: the stakes are pretty high in the next couple of
19:44
Speaker 3: weeks because it's really his last chance for visibility for
19:47
Speaker 3: a long time.
19:48
Speaker 2: Well, and I don't think it's so much about the
19:50
Speaker 2: last chance for visibility as a player. I don't think
19:53
Speaker 2: you think that.
19:53
Speaker 3: I think you just say, you know, stick with the
19:55
Speaker 3: process and keep getting better so that when my name
19:59
Speaker 3: is I'm going to be ready to perform. You don't
20:01
Speaker 3: look at it so much as you know, am I
20:03
Speaker 3: in the spotlight? But you know, I like what he's doing.
20:07
Speaker 3: He's working really hard. He shows he's not as athletic
20:11
Speaker 3: as Trevor, but but he's got enough athleticism.
20:17
Speaker 2: You know.
20:17
Speaker 3: And I will say there was one practice earlier where
20:19
Speaker 3: he ran for a touchdown and like threw the ball
20:22
Speaker 3: in the stands and did the whole deal because he.
20:24
Speaker 2: Had outrun everybody. You know. Yeah, kind of funny.
20:27
Speaker 3: And you know, it was interesting listening to CJ. Bether
20:30
Speaker 3: talked today.
20:31
Speaker 2: You know.
20:31
Speaker 3: CJ talked about the dynamic in the quarterback room and
20:35
Speaker 3: said that it's a really good room, you know, because
20:37
Speaker 3: when you have three I mean, look in the back
20:39
Speaker 3: of everybody minds everybody's minds. You know, if you're CJ.
20:44
Speaker 3: And you know if you're Mac Jones. There's really probably
20:48
Speaker 3: only two spots on the active roster for a quarterback
20:52
Speaker 3: now with the new quarterback rules. I mean, there might
20:55
Speaker 3: be a spot that's available on the practice squad, there
20:58
Speaker 3: could be a spot on the active roster, but that's
21:01
Speaker 3: probably unlikely because most of the third active roster spots
21:05
Speaker 3: are gonna be reserved for a young, promising prospect, not
21:09
Speaker 3: for an older CJ. Bethard or you know, Mac Jones
21:12
Speaker 3: is not gonna be there. You didn't trade for him
21:14
Speaker 3: to end up putting him on practice squad. And on
21:17
Speaker 3: top of that, he's right now, he's better than c J.
21:20
Speaker 3: Bether to be quite honest. So I think it was
21:23
Speaker 3: a really good trade by Trent Balkey. And it's a
21:26
Speaker 3: really good trade because you're gonna end up I think
21:28
Speaker 3: you gave up.
21:29
Speaker 2: A sixth it's a later round. Yeah.
21:31
Speaker 3: And let's say Mac Jones spends the whole year as
21:34
Speaker 3: the backup plays, doesn't play, doesn't matter if he plays
21:37
Speaker 3: an he shows well, there's gonna be some team in
21:40
Speaker 3: the league that's gonna want to sign Mac Jones to
21:42
Speaker 3: be their starting quarterback. Look around the league, how many
21:46
Speaker 3: teams would you right now if you were any of
21:49
Speaker 3: those teams pick me some teams at JP right now,
21:52
Speaker 3: you'd say, you know what, I'll take Mac Jones right now.
21:55
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, I mean there's Minnesota Vikings. Absolutely, they
22:02
Speaker 3: just lost they lost their draft draft pick quarterback. So Minnesota,
22:09
Speaker 3: Las Vegas, right, they've got a battle between.
22:12
Speaker 2: Who Gardner and but there's there's teams that you.
22:17
Speaker 3: Know, I think he's he's he's a starting quarterback in
22:21
Speaker 3: this league. So when when he leaves, which he will,
22:26
Speaker 3: and free agency or how it happens, he's gonna end
22:30
Speaker 3: up getting a sizable contract and that contract will end
22:34
Speaker 3: up determining how much the compensatory pick comes back to
22:37
Speaker 3: the Jaguars. And it doesn't matter what how much the
22:40
Speaker 3: dollar amount is based on position, it's just dollar amount
22:43
Speaker 3: that determines the compensatory pick. So the Jaguars could get
22:49
Speaker 3: a fourth probably in my opinion of the third to
22:54
Speaker 3: come back to them for losing him in the future
22:56
Speaker 3: and free agency. So from a trade standpoint, it was
23:01
Speaker 3: I don't want to say brilliant because I mean, if
23:03
Speaker 3: brilliant is something that very few people would do, but
23:06
Speaker 3: it was a very shrewd smart move by Trent Balkey
23:10
Speaker 3: to acquire him.
23:12
Speaker 2: Savvy CJ. Bethard. You mentioned him.
23:16
Speaker 3: He's been in the league now, going into year seven
23:19
Speaker 3: in the NFL and has played in thirty two games
23:23
Speaker 3: thirteen starts. He's fighting for the roster spot that you
23:27
Speaker 3: talked about, and his approach over the next two weeks.
23:30
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't try to make a bigger deal than
23:33
Speaker 5: what it is. I think every day you're just trying
23:36
Speaker 5: to do your best and put your best foot forward.
23:39
Speaker 5: But the bigger the moment you make it, I feel
23:43
Speaker 5: like the more stress you bring upon yourself and there's
23:45
Speaker 5: just no need for that.
23:47
Speaker 2: Yeah.
23:47
Speaker 5: I mean, being eight years eight years in, I've seen
23:51
Speaker 5: a lot, been through a lot, so I feel like
23:53
Speaker 5: I'm mature in that sense.
23:56
Speaker 2: But yeah, he is the salty vet of the room.
23:59
Speaker 3: I suppose perspective though, absolutely, And it's perspective that I mean.
24:05
Speaker 2: He's been.
24:05
Speaker 3: He grew up in the game of football, his grandfather's
24:08
Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame, the whole deal. He kind
24:09
Speaker 3: of gets the whole vibe of the league and the
24:12
Speaker 3: pace of how things go in the NFL, and it's
24:15
Speaker 3: not gonna He's not gonna just shut it down and
24:18
Speaker 3: take this whatever it is that might be ahead of him.
24:21
Speaker 2: He's gonna go fight for whatever job he can go get.
24:23
Speaker 3: Well, he's got first of all, he's got great perspective,
24:26
Speaker 3: I mean great perspective on where he's at, how the
24:29
Speaker 3: business works, and uh. And he's very comfortable in his
24:33
Speaker 3: own skin. Give him credit for that, and.
24:36
Speaker 2: And that's a good thing.
24:36
Speaker 6: You know.
24:37
Speaker 3: A little story about how there's a little connection between
24:40
Speaker 3: me and him is that his grandfather that you alluded
24:44
Speaker 3: to was Bobby Bethort, who was the general manager of
24:46
Speaker 3: the Washington Redskins back when they had the Redskins.
24:49
Speaker 2: As the name.
24:51
Speaker 3: So when I was a prospect coming out of the
24:54
Speaker 3: University of Virginia, I was looking at signing with the
24:57
Speaker 3: different agents. You know, I didn't know where I was
24:58
Speaker 3: going to get drafted at the time, but but you know,
25:00
Speaker 3: the thing to do when you're coming out you got
25:02
Speaker 3: to get an agent. So I was looking at about
25:06
Speaker 3: four or five different guys and interviewing that amount as well.
25:11
Speaker 3: And then once I kind of honed it down to
25:12
Speaker 3: a couple guys, my dad had a friend who happened
25:17
Speaker 3: to know Bobby Bethard, and so my dad ended up
25:21
Speaker 3: having the opportunity to to ask Bobby Bethard, you know, hey, look,
25:26
Speaker 3: my son has a question. Would you mind looking and
25:30
Speaker 3: giving your opinion on the agents that he's looking at,
25:32
Speaker 3: because I wanted to have a perspective from the management side.
25:36
Speaker 3: I didn't want to have just a perspective from what
25:39
Speaker 3: I'm hearing in my ear, because you know how agents
25:41
Speaker 3: can be. I mean, some of them kind of viewed
25:43
Speaker 3: as a little slimy, okay. So I wanted to have
25:47
Speaker 3: somebody the way back then. So I wanted to have
25:51
Speaker 3: somebody that was highly respected from the management side and
25:54
Speaker 3: had a good reputation. And so I gave the list
25:57
Speaker 3: to my dad and he passed it on to Bobby
26:00
Speaker 3: through the mutual friend, and then Bobby came back and
26:03
Speaker 3: gave us some input on the different guys, and I
26:05
Speaker 3: ended up choosing a guy by the name of Brad
26:08
Speaker 3: Blank who was out of Boston and had him my
26:11
Speaker 3: entire career and a great, great input from Bobby Bethard,
26:15
Speaker 3: And that's one of the big reasons why I went
26:17
Speaker 3: down that path. Plenty ahead, we're gonna flip it. That's
26:20
Speaker 3: a good story, by the way, pretty cool. We're back
26:23
Speaker 3: in a moment to discuss defense and Eric Armstead.
26:27
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26:29
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26:31
Speaker 2: This week, but he's back.
26:32
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26:37
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Speaker 7: My goal is to feel good, to feel good and uh,
27:14
Speaker 7: you know, get off to a good start in the
27:15
Speaker 7: season and prepare to have a dominant season, but also
27:19
Speaker 7: at the same time realizing that it's a seventeen game
27:23
Speaker 7: season and you know why. My my goal is always
27:28
Speaker 7: to be my best when my best is needed, and
27:30
Speaker 7: I think I have a great track record of that,
27:32
Speaker 7: and looking at a season as a whole, I want
27:35
Speaker 7: to get off to a good start obviously, but also
27:37
Speaker 7: I want to be, you know, there for my team
27:39
Speaker 7: when they need me the most, in December, in January,
27:44
Speaker 7: in February. So that's always been my goal.
27:47
Speaker 3: It's Eric Armstead, activated from the physically unable to perform
27:51
Speaker 3: lists and out there but still ramping things back up.
27:56
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27:59
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28:09
Speaker 3: o'clock the Doug Peterson Show. We'll have the best of
28:12
Speaker 3: Doug Peterson's press conference today. There was a lot going
28:16
Speaker 3: on today getting ready for pre season week two from
28:19
Speaker 3: him coming up and Cooper Hodges, the second year guard
28:23
Speaker 3: from Baker County right here in this area, well Appalachian
28:27
Speaker 3: state if you're talking colleges, and had an interesting conversation
28:31
Speaker 3: with him this week. He told me something just before
28:35
Speaker 3: we go to Eric Armstead. Cooper Hodges has never played
28:38
Speaker 3: anything but right tackle in his career prior to playing
28:41
Speaker 3: right guard and left guard the other night.
28:43
Speaker 2: It's amazing, isn't Isn't that crazy? Yeah?
28:45
Speaker 3: I mean you would have thought that somewhere along the line,
28:47
Speaker 3: somebody would had him somewhere else at some point.
28:49
Speaker 2: We'll get to him a little bit later tonight.
28:52
Speaker 3: There's plenty to discuss around him, and also plenty about
28:55
Speaker 3: Eric Armstead and a guy who's been at it now
28:58
Speaker 3: going into year ten in the league. He's done it
29:00
Speaker 3: at a high level. He's coming off an injury and
29:05
Speaker 3: the injuries that's that's plural. Doug Peterson said it today.
29:08
Speaker 3: He's like, I don't we don't need him now. We
29:10
Speaker 3: need him basically, we need him when we need him. Yeah,
29:14
Speaker 3: we need a rush again, that's injuries plural. He had
29:16
Speaker 3: had a couple of things at the end of last
29:19
Speaker 3: year and was able to play a significant with a
29:22
Speaker 3: significant injury to finish the year out. Wait until the
29:25
Speaker 3: end of the season to get some things fixed and look,
29:28
Speaker 3: the the Jaguars defensive front is kind of an interesting group,
29:31
Speaker 3: and I think that that defensive tackle spot, and because
29:34
Speaker 3: I consider him a defensive tackle now on first down,
29:36
Speaker 3: he might end up lining up as a as a
29:38
Speaker 3: left defensive end and four to three or strong end
29:42
Speaker 3: or whatever you want to call it. Like Klay's Campbell
29:44
Speaker 3: used to do. Okay, but once you get the sub
29:48
Speaker 3: which sub is the main stay of defense in the
29:50
Speaker 3: National Football League. He's going to be a defensive tackle.
29:53
Speaker 3: He's not going to be an edge rusher. So who
29:57
Speaker 3: else can do what he brings to the table on
30:00
Speaker 3: this roster right now? Can you name me a guy
30:07
Speaker 3: looking I'm talking a guy that can pass rush. Robertson
30:12
Speaker 3: Harris is supposed to be that, right. Roy's still kind
30:15
Speaker 3: of working his way back, you know. And and Roy's
30:18
Speaker 3: never been one of these you know, big, you know,
30:21
Speaker 3: dominant pass rushers on the inside. I think the one
30:25
Speaker 3: guy that has a chance and a similar kind of
30:27
Speaker 3: in that the measure of bulls is Mason Smith round right.
30:31
Speaker 2: That was gonna be my next choice.
30:33
Speaker 3: And a rookie right by the way, Mason Smith yesterday
30:36
Speaker 3: and and the practice that you could actually look at
30:39
Speaker 3: and gain some knowledge from he was he had an
30:43
Speaker 3: outstanding one on one pass rush drill and then really
30:46
Speaker 3: did a really good job of carrying over the uh
30:50
Speaker 3: the individual period also into team. I had a conversation
30:54
Speaker 3: with him earlier this week and and I was like,
30:56
Speaker 3: you know how you felt you did and in the game,
30:59
Speaker 3: just how to cry out someone to see what he
31:00
Speaker 3: would say he said, yeah, I kind of was thinking
31:02
Speaker 3: too much. And I said, yeah, I kind of saw that.
31:05
Speaker 3: And I said, but you know, I said, your practices
31:06
Speaker 3: have been great. He goes, yeah, and he goes, you know,
31:08
Speaker 3: when I can just go, I feel good, he said.
31:11
Speaker 3: But I've just got to get to the point where
31:13
Speaker 3: I get into the game and I'm not thinking and
31:15
Speaker 3: I can just go, and when he does, he's gonna
31:19
Speaker 3: be I think, really good. But there's not a lot
31:21
Speaker 3: of defensive tackles that they have on this roster that
31:24
Speaker 3: are gonna be pass rushers or that are there's a
31:27
Speaker 3: lot of them there, the big run stuffing powerful guys
31:32
Speaker 3: like Devon Hamilton and Tyler Lacey and Jeremiah Ledbetter, Jordan Jefferson,
31:38
Speaker 3: the draft pick from Lash. These these are big defensive
31:43
Speaker 3: you know, can't move them, pillars of strength defensive tackles, right.
31:49
Speaker 3: So that's why that's why Armstead, the Mason Smith hopefully
31:54
Speaker 3: roy a little bit. I mean, they're they're hopefully gonna
31:56
Speaker 3: give you something different, you know, something different than just
32:01
Speaker 3: being run stuffers. Because here's the reality is saying a
32:05
Speaker 3: run stuffing league. Let's hear from Josh Hinz Allen on
32:09
Speaker 3: the outside of this defensive line at the end spot
32:13
Speaker 3: discussing this group coming together as camp goes along.
32:17
Speaker 6: Right now, it's just working with the scheme. Now we're
32:19
Speaker 6: all in one group, you know, so we hear the
32:21
Speaker 6: same thing. Coach Ryan is.
32:24
Speaker 2: Really harping on. We rushed as one. We players one.
32:26
Speaker 6: We stopped the runners one, so we can enjoy so
32:29
Speaker 6: we can enjoy the past rush. So just being in
32:31
Speaker 6: a room with those guys, laughing with those guys, getting
32:34
Speaker 6: serious with those guys, knowing those guys outside the building
32:36
Speaker 6: for years has already built that relationship. But now learning together,
32:40
Speaker 6: asking questions together, seeing the way you rush together, just
32:43
Speaker 6: doing all these things together just really makes that cohesive
32:47
Speaker 6: group that we need to play from one for one,
32:49
Speaker 6: that we need to hold each other accountable, and that
32:51
Speaker 6: we love each other. We want everybody to be great
32:52
Speaker 6: because we want to be the best defensive the nice
32:54
Speaker 6: football league.
32:55
Speaker 3: It's an interesting point, Josh Hein's Allen earlier this week
32:58
Speaker 3: discussing it. Last year, I mean, outside linebackers were separate
33:01
Speaker 3: from the defensive line and a lot of areas meetings,
33:05
Speaker 3: and I mean it's just different. Now it's all defensive line.
33:08
Speaker 3: They're all together, interior, outside the whole thing.
33:10
Speaker 2: I didn't understand it.
33:13
Speaker 3: Frustrated at times, JP, you know that when I could
33:16
Speaker 3: see that in your face, when I would see a
33:18
Speaker 3: Josh Allen or a Trayvon Walker in a two point
33:22
Speaker 3: stance when it was third and twelve, what are we doing? Okay,
33:27
Speaker 3: there's no secret. Okay, we're not going to drop Josh
33:31
Speaker 3: in the coverage on third and twelve. Come on, let's
33:34
Speaker 3: go just line him up, put the hand in the ground.
33:37
Speaker 3: But you know, the one thing I think that is
33:40
Speaker 3: a little bit surprising. I was having a conversation with
33:44
Speaker 3: Bo the other day at practice, which BASSELI.
33:47
Speaker 2: I've heard of him.
33:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, you heard that guy. Is that what he's nicknamed? Yeah,
33:50
Speaker 3: I call him. So I'm sitting there having a conversation
33:53
Speaker 3: with him. I'm like, yeah, I said, you know, Josh
33:54
Speaker 3: is Josh looks good? And he goes, yeah, you know,
33:56
Speaker 3: he's bigger, and I was like, he was bigger last year. No, no, no,
34:00
Speaker 3: he's bigger this year too. And I was like, no,
34:02
Speaker 3: he's not that much, but he was like to seventy
34:04
Speaker 3: five last year. So after practice I went up Josh
34:08
Speaker 3: and I said, Josh, you know what's your way at.
34:10
Speaker 2: And he's like two eighty five.
34:13
Speaker 3: I'm like, huh. He said yeah, And I said, are
34:16
Speaker 3: you kidding me? And he goes no, he goes, I
34:18
Speaker 3: feel good. So he got bigger last year because you know,
34:22
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago he was down in the
34:23
Speaker 3: sixties and then last year he you know, put the
34:26
Speaker 3: extra weight on and I think he got up around
34:29
Speaker 3: seventy seventy five and now he's up to eighty five.
34:31
Speaker 3: Trayvon's at eighty five two. I mean, what's that commercial
34:35
Speaker 3: at lady saying where's the beef? Yeah, it's right there.
34:37
Speaker 3: That's a lot of human being, both of them. There's
34:40
Speaker 3: a lot of size on this Jack too. It's not
34:43
Speaker 3: like they're I mean they are moving. Josh yesterday and
34:46
Speaker 3: one on one pass rush, I mean, just had a
34:48
Speaker 3: great drill against Tristan Warfs and then he had a
34:53
Speaker 3: move on the left side to where he came back
34:55
Speaker 3: underneath on the offensive tackle, beat him like a drum,
34:58
Speaker 3: had a move in, moved in at guard, beat Britis
35:01
Speaker 3: in the start and left guard for the Tampa Bay Bucks.
35:03
Speaker 3: I mean, Josh, I'm talking on fire in one on
35:07
Speaker 3: one pass rush yesterday, great drill for him real quick.
35:12
Speaker 2: How many defensive linemen will they keep? Nine? Ish?
35:18
Speaker 3: I mean the number is always you know, when you're
35:19
Speaker 3: rotating guys in the number floats right around between nine
35:23
Speaker 3: and ten, you know, So I think nine or ten.
35:27
Speaker 3: And if you're trying to keep the best guys on
35:29
Speaker 3: your football team, if it's going to be nine, then
35:31
Speaker 3: that means you got another position of strength. Maybe you're
35:34
Speaker 3: really good at cornerback or really good at safety, or
35:37
Speaker 3: really good at linebacker. I don't think they're super good
35:41
Speaker 3: at any of those other positions, so I think the
35:43
Speaker 3: number could be ten, But I don't know. I think
35:47
Speaker 3: it comes down to how you are from a health
35:51
Speaker 3: standpoint at that position and other positions to where they
35:56
Speaker 3: are going.
35:56
Speaker 2: To have to have a little conversation about it. Yeah,
35:58
Speaker 2: and then depth at the edge spot.
36:02
Speaker 3: But you know, ballpark, JP, I mean, you know you're
36:03
Speaker 3: looking at nine or ten at defensive line because you're
36:08
Speaker 3: talking four positions there. Linebacker, you're looking at five, six, seven,
36:14
Speaker 3: defensive back, nine, ten, you know, somewhere in that range.
36:17
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36:21
Speaker 3: twenty five on each side of the ball, right, I
36:23
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36:25
Speaker 3: a three specialists. You know, if you're looking at numbers,
36:29
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36:32
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36:35
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Speaker 3: Time now logs for the inport presented by Baptist Health,
38:02
Speaker 3: changing health Care for Good. Eight Jaguars players missed practice
38:07
Speaker 3: on Thursday. Running back Keelan Robinson with a toe issue
38:11
Speaker 3: that won't go away, Patrick Murtogg with the ankle. Of course,
38:16
Speaker 3: that was a significant injury on the practice field last week.
38:20
Speaker 3: Safety Daniel Thomas held out with a heel issue today,
38:24
Speaker 3: Andrew Wingard, of course a knee lingering knee issue will
38:27
Speaker 3: be a little bit. It sounds like Christian Kirk off
38:30
Speaker 3: to the side today with a calf issue. Nothing major,
38:34
Speaker 3: Doug Peterson said, just kind of taking a precaution there
38:38
Speaker 3: to Sean Gibson and Eric Armstead off to the side
38:42
Speaker 3: as well as they ramp up to get on the
38:44
Speaker 3: practice field. And Peterson actually said the injury to Kirk
38:49
Speaker 3: was mild and the Thomas absence, Daniel Thomas precautionary.
38:54
Speaker 2: That's the actual quote. So there you have it. That's
38:57
Speaker 2: the injury report.
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Speaker 3: Injuries are always minor to those other than yourself.
39:02
Speaker 2: It's a good point. It's an excellent point. Yeah, yeah,
39:06
Speaker 2: it really is.
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Speaker 3: Hopefully Christian Kirk is fine. I mean he look fine.
39:12
Speaker 3: Keilon Robinson, I'm just kind of curious about him. He's
39:15
Speaker 3: the draft pick out of Texas and kick return specialists there,
39:18
Speaker 3: mainly running back by trade and was kind of used
39:21
Speaker 3: a lot more in the wide game, passing game in
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Speaker 3: the offense at Texas and just haven't really seen him
39:28
Speaker 3: in pads at all yet. I think he may be
39:30
Speaker 3: a guy that you're gonna have to put on IR.
39:34
Speaker 2: I mean, because here's the reality.
39:35
Speaker 3: Let's say, you know, we've seen him at practice like
39:38
Speaker 3: in a boot, right, yeah, So let's say he comes
39:41
Speaker 3: back next week. That gives him one week of practice
39:44
Speaker 3: for you to make an honest evaluation. Is that is
39:46
Speaker 3: that fair? I mean, you can't go from a boot
39:49
Speaker 3: to be in full go. So my guess is is
39:52
Speaker 3: that he is destined to the practice squad and at
39:56
Speaker 3: some point, but IR to start the year, I mean,
39:59
Speaker 3: just look at the other running backs that are around
40:01
Speaker 3: here too. I mean you've got Travis Etn, Tank Bigsby,
40:03
Speaker 3: Jernis Johnson. I mean those are the three right now.
40:06
Speaker 3: The other guys that are out there, Jalen Jackson and
40:08
Speaker 3: Gary Brightwell. Jalen Jackson has He's kind of an interesting watch.
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Speaker 3: I think he's a I think you're gonna go three
40:15
Speaker 3: running backs if I had to guess to start the season.
40:17
Speaker 2: Makes sense.
40:18
Speaker 3: And I think Jalen Jackson is a guy that you
40:20
Speaker 3: would put on practice squad and h in my opinion,
40:25
Speaker 3: he's been very He's a very fast.
40:27
Speaker 2: Back by the way when you watch him.
40:30
Speaker 3: And then for Keilan Robinson, I'm thinking that he's an
40:33
Speaker 3: IR guy. Now, Is that I R for the year?
40:37
Speaker 3: Is that IR to start the season? I don't know
40:40
Speaker 3: kind of exactly how the rules work. I know that's
40:42
Speaker 3: a little different, and that in the past you used
40:45
Speaker 3: to have to carry somebody on the fifty three to
40:48
Speaker 3: put them on IR in order to pull him off
40:51
Speaker 3: of IR.
40:52
Speaker 2: That's not the rule anymore, though. Yeah, they keep switching
40:55
Speaker 2: that around.
40:55
Speaker 3: The way that I understand it, the way I understand
40:57
Speaker 3: it now is that you can have a guy designated
41:02
Speaker 3: to IR that can be returned off of IR instead
41:06
Speaker 3: of losing, you know, a spot on the fifty third,
41:10
Speaker 3: using or sacrificing a spot on the fifty three to
41:12
Speaker 3: get a guy to IR, to get them to come
41:14
Speaker 3: back active during the season, You're.
41:16
Speaker 2: Gonna have two guys this year? Is it two active?
41:18
Speaker 3: They just they That's what the change was, this most
41:21
Speaker 3: recent change. Yeah, but I'm talking about going into and
41:24
Speaker 3: going into the season. I don't know how many can
41:26
Speaker 3: you you know, can you if let's say you got
41:28
Speaker 3: seven guys that are hurt, can you designate all seven
41:32
Speaker 3: to IR going in okay that could come back? Or
41:36
Speaker 3: is that only too well? I wonder if you even
41:38
Speaker 3: have to designate them until they come back.
41:41
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know.
41:42
Speaker 3: I gotta I gotta get a little clarification on that.
41:44
Speaker 3: That's one of the rules that I actually had a
41:47
Speaker 3: conversation with Trent Balky today, but I've got to and
41:49
Speaker 3: we talked a little bit about that, but I didn't
41:51
Speaker 3: get specifics on that.
41:53
Speaker 2: So I'll follow up with him, and hey, we got time.
41:56
Speaker 2: There's two weeks left in the preseason and you can
41:58
Speaker 2: figure some things out.
41:59
Speaker 3: The rules are the rules are so different I mean
42:02
Speaker 3: even like practice squad rules, I mean the number of
42:04
Speaker 3: guys that you can have that are you know, older
42:06
Speaker 3: and younger and all that stuff, and you know what
42:09
Speaker 3: you can as far as elevating them the active on
42:12
Speaker 3: game day, it's it's a lot to understand because it's basically,
42:15
Speaker 3: I mean, it's fifty three active and then what's sixteen
42:18
Speaker 3: on the practice squad? Sixteen on the practice squad. But
42:20
Speaker 3: then there's again certain guys you know you can have,
42:24
Speaker 3: you can bring them up and down, certain number of
42:26
Speaker 3: guys that are older and then that's right, are all
42:29
Speaker 3: younger if you want to, But there's a limit on
42:31
Speaker 3: the number of older guys I think that you can have.
42:33
Speaker 3: But but basically the COVID rules stuck around for the
42:37
Speaker 3: practice squad. They expanded it out and gave you less
42:40
Speaker 3: restrictions on how many you know, ups and downs you
42:43
Speaker 3: can do. So they've kept that, which it's essentially, you
42:47
Speaker 3: have sixty nine players on your team during the regular season,
42:51
Speaker 3: sixteen just happened to be on the practice squad, and
42:53
Speaker 3: you can elevate it certain guys well, and then it's
42:55
Speaker 3: good and then you know the other guys opportunities that
42:58
Speaker 3: might not have had it before. Well, the other guy
43:00
Speaker 3: that we'll have a conversation about because it relates to
43:03
Speaker 3: the roster, is to Sean Gibson, where.
43:06
Speaker 2: Does he fit in all of that? You know, I
43:09
Speaker 2: did get.
43:09
Speaker 3: Some clarification on that my conversation with Trent Balkey today.
43:13
Speaker 3: And so to Sean Gibson is on the roster when
43:17
Speaker 3: the season starts, he is moved to the suspended list,
43:20
Speaker 3: so he does not count on the Jaguars roster at all.
43:25
Speaker 3: So he will be there on the suspended list for
43:27
Speaker 3: six weeks. After six weeks, he will come off of
43:31
Speaker 3: the suspended list and return to the team, but initially
43:34
Speaker 3: he will not count as a member of the fifty three.
43:38
Speaker 3: There's a little grace period that the NFL grants players
43:41
Speaker 3: coming off the suspended list in order for them to
43:44
Speaker 3: get time to get kind of back with the team,
43:47
Speaker 3: in shape, practicing, et cetera. Now, is that going to
43:50
Speaker 3: be one week or is that going to be kind
43:52
Speaker 3: of a two week exemption? Not sure, it will be
43:55
Speaker 3: at least a week, and then and then you've got
43:57
Speaker 3: to pay him once he comes off of the suspended list.
44:01
Speaker 3: And then at that point you have to make a
44:03
Speaker 3: decision once he's off the exempt list, do you activate
44:08
Speaker 3: him to the fifty three, which you would have to
44:10
Speaker 3: take somebody off of the fifty three, or do you
44:13
Speaker 3: release him. So I think it's a very smart move. Look,
44:18
Speaker 3: if you have an issue at safety, hey you just.
44:20
Speaker 2: Kind of wait and see. You got to kind of
44:22
Speaker 2: guy itself.
44:22
Speaker 3: It's a low risk, low cost move with Deshaun Gibson,
44:26
Speaker 3: who's still a good football player. And so if you
44:30
Speaker 3: have an issue, let's say winger is having a problem
44:33
Speaker 3: getting back, you have an injury to one of your
44:36
Speaker 3: safeties in the first six weeks of the season, Well
44:39
Speaker 3: you've trained to sean Gibson in a couple weeks that
44:41
Speaker 3: you got him here in training camp so that when
44:44
Speaker 3: he does come off of the suspended list then he
44:46
Speaker 3: could be ready to go per se.
44:48
Speaker 2: So I think it's a.
44:49
Speaker 3: Very good shrewd move for a team when your expectations
44:53
Speaker 3: are that, hey, look you're going to compete, okay for
44:56
Speaker 3: the whole thing. That's a really good move in my opinion.
45:00
Speaker 3: I loved here in his press conngreence because he hadn't
45:02
Speaker 3: heard from him here obviously since he was on the team.
45:04
Speaker 3: He was here for three seasons and part of a
45:05
Speaker 3: team that was a cast of characters, let's say on
45:09
Speaker 3: the defense, right. So he was a piece of that,
45:13
Speaker 3: of course, but to be back now and to be
45:15
Speaker 3: in year thirteen in the NFL. He said that one
45:18
Speaker 3: of his teammates came up to him the other day
45:20
Speaker 3: and said, you know, I watched you when I was
45:21
Speaker 3: in seventh grade. That's kind of rude awakening was It
45:25
Speaker 3: was interesting too. You also had the line that he said, look,
45:28
Speaker 3: I'm old enough to be some of these guys dad,
45:31
Speaker 3: And I'll never.
45:33
Speaker 2: Forget when I came in the league.
45:34
Speaker 3: I walked in the locker room and there was a
45:36
Speaker 3: guy from Louisiana Tech I think it was, and he
45:40
Speaker 3: was an offensive guard and his name was Dan Alexander
45:43
Speaker 3: War number sixty. And Dan played the game and he
45:48
Speaker 3: wore these spot built turf cleats that were look they
45:52
Speaker 3: looked like work boots, okay, and I'll have to show
45:55
Speaker 3: you a picture of him.
45:56
Speaker 2: They were super stiff.
45:58
Speaker 3: And back then there were there's no such thing as
46:01
Speaker 3: Liman gloves jp R receivers gloves. They didn't exist. The
46:05
Speaker 3: offensive lineman back then, they would go to garden centers
46:08
Speaker 3: and buy garden gloves essentially and then tape them up
46:12
Speaker 3: and that was what they wore in the game. And
46:15
Speaker 3: so that was Dan, you know, old school, and he
46:16
Speaker 3: was old enough to be my dad. I want to
46:18
Speaker 3: say he was in like.
46:19
Speaker 2: Year fifteen or fourteen or something like that.
46:24
Speaker 3: I'm looking at Dan Alexander what to LSU not LSU,
46:28
Speaker 3: but was from the Jets from seventy seven to eighty nine.
46:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. Long time, A long time I
46:34
Speaker 2: met Tell.
46:35
Speaker 3: He didn't say much either, I thought, I know, and
46:37
Speaker 3: everybody was like, you got They were like surprised that
46:39
Speaker 3: he came up and talked to me, because Dan didn't
46:41
Speaker 3: normally talk to rookies. But Dan said to all these
46:44
Speaker 3: guys later on, he said, look, I figured I better
46:46
Speaker 3: talk with Loghman because I knew that this was going
46:49
Speaker 3: to be my last year and I wasn't going to
46:51
Speaker 3: be around long enough to get to know him if
46:52
Speaker 3: I treated him like a normal rookie in years.
46:54
Speaker 2: Past, Hilarious played one hundred and ninety two games.
46:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was good too, now, a good, solid, dependable,
47:01
Speaker 3: always available, durable, good guy. Owned a bar back in Louisiana.
47:07
Speaker 3: And needless to say, Dan like to have a couple
47:09
Speaker 3: of cold ones. Yeah, I see if he's not too many.
47:13
Speaker 3: He didn't have too many, but he liked to have
47:15
Speaker 3: cold beer. Coming up the Doug Peterson Show in just
47:18
Speaker 3: a few minutes on the Jaguars Radio Network and right
47:21
Speaker 3: here on ten ten XEL. The head coach coming off
47:25
Speaker 3: joint practices and actually spoke today with the media going
47:28
Speaker 3: into the second joint practice. We'll here's some of the
47:31
Speaker 3: best of his press conference from earlier today. And you know,
47:35
Speaker 3: I think coming out of last week's game, it seemed
47:38
Speaker 3: like he felt the team was in a pretty good mindset.
47:41
Speaker 3: They played hard, they played aggressive, they didn't have many penalties,
47:45
Speaker 3: they didn't turn the ball over, there was a lot
47:47
Speaker 3: of energy from the sideline when some of the backup
47:50
Speaker 3: players are in making plays, and those are all positive
47:52
Speaker 3: things from last week that they could carry over into
47:54
Speaker 3: this week well. And I think having a clean game
47:57
Speaker 3: like that is doing large part to play the three quarterbacks.
48:02
Speaker 3: You know, you look at a lot of teams around
48:03
Speaker 3: the league and they have three quarterbacks and the backup
48:06
Speaker 3: and even the third quarterback, or definitely the third quarterback
48:09
Speaker 3: in most cases, a very young, inexperienced quarterback. Well with
48:13
Speaker 3: the Jaguars, you have two quarterbacks that were high picks,
48:18
Speaker 3: played a lot of football, another one that's been around
48:20
Speaker 3: the block a long time in CJ.
48:21
Speaker 2: Betherd.
48:22
Speaker 3: So the management of the offense and the protecting of
48:26
Speaker 3: the ball is I think at a higher level than
48:28
Speaker 3: it would be compared to like other teams that have
48:30
Speaker 3: young quarterbacks. So I expect this team to play well,
48:33
Speaker 3: to be clean on offense, protect the ball, and to
48:35
Speaker 3: be perfectly honest with you, I expect them to win
48:37
Speaker 3: all the preseason games, you know, because they have three
48:40
Speaker 3: quarterbacks that are going to be playing in the preseason
48:43
Speaker 3: that are probably going to be better than the other
48:46
Speaker 3: team's quarterbacks.
48:47
Speaker 2: So so looking forward to that.
48:49
Speaker 3: But the best part about having quarterbacks like they have
48:52
Speaker 3: here in the quarterback room is that now you can
48:55
Speaker 3: evaluate the other positions. Okay, when the quarterback is operating
48:58
Speaker 3: in the offense at a pretty decent level, I don't
49:00
Speaker 3: have to say high level, but at a good level,
49:03
Speaker 3: it allows everybody else to be able to do their jobs.
49:06
Speaker 3: And when everybody else can do their jobs, it allows
49:08
Speaker 3: them to be cleaner and also to showcase their skill
49:11
Speaker 3: set instead of being limited because the quarterback has limited experience.
49:15
Speaker 3: So an example, if a wide receiver is running the
49:17
Speaker 3: greatest route in the world, but you got a rookie
49:19
Speaker 3: quarterback who doesn't know the good route, and when he's open, nobody.
49:22
Speaker 2: Knows right or throws it behind him or yeah, nobody knows.
49:25
Speaker 2: Nobody knows.
49:26
Speaker 3: But when it's executed right and the ball's there and
49:29
Speaker 3: you know the quarterback's also converting first downs at other times,
49:32
Speaker 3: it makes everything look better and function at a higher level.
49:36
Speaker 3: And that's what you want. That's what they should expect,
49:38
Speaker 3: and that's what they're getting. Teams are both practicing tomorrow,
49:42
Speaker 3: but not against each other, but they'll get to find
49:44
Speaker 3: their final work in before the game on Saturday seven thirty.
49:48
Speaker 3: Kickoff at the Bank for the Buccaneers and the Jaguars.
49:52
Speaker 3: Preseason Week two. A lot of Mac Jones, a lot
49:56
Speaker 3: of CJ. Bethard expected, and some players it may not
50:00
Speaker 3: be labeled as starters right now, but big opportunity for
50:05
Speaker 3: a lot of guys ahead coming up next and if
50:07
Speaker 3: and if mac Jones starts, will be the I haven't
50:10
Speaker 3: seen him start since he started at Bowls in person.
50:13
Speaker 3: Oh well you might be about to maybe again. We'll
50:16
Speaker 3: see Doug Peterson Show's coming up next. That'll do it
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Speaker 3: for Jaguars Happy Hour