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Ep. 371 - Sssssss (1973) · Frightmares

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  Speaker 1: You are now listening to the Someone's Favorite Productions podcast network.
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  Speaker 2: The following podcast will contain spoilers, tangents, hot takes, and
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  Speaker 2: excessive foul language. Viewer discretion is advised enjoy the show.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back to Frightmar's podcast. I'm your host Austin Proctor,
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  Speaker 3: and join me today for episode three seventy one. Is
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  Speaker 3: my good friend Michael Yers. Yeah, I'm here.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have more to that song.
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  Speaker 3: That's fine, that's fine. You know you improvised it. Today
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  Speaker 3: in another installment, actually the last installment of March Labness,
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  Speaker 3: we're discussing our wild card pick with the Most Atrocious
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  Speaker 3: Name Ever from nineteen seventy three, a movie which proves that,
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  Speaker 3: even in a room full of venomous snakes, mankind is
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  Speaker 3: still the most dangerous. Let's see where this lands on
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  Speaker 3: the nightmare index. Oh boy, I have watched some things.
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  Speaker 3: I've watched some stuff. But what have you been watching?
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  Speaker 3: Like this past week? You've been watching anything good, anything new,
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  Speaker 3: doesn't really matter the genre. You tell me.
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  Speaker 2: This last month has been insane. Let me tell you mind.
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  Speaker 2: If I do a quick.
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  Speaker 3: Count, Oh, let's do it.
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  Speaker 2: Do I've watched thirty one movies in twenty six days.
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  Speaker 3: Thirty one movies in twenty six days. Very nice. Okay
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  Speaker 3: that is for you, I know, for you, that is
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  Speaker 3: way above the average for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Well yeah, and it's I usually try to watch a
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  Speaker 2: movie in a day, but you know, it doesn't always work.
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  Speaker 2: But our friend Dusty stayed with us, and uh, we
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  Speaker 2: took the we took time off of work and we
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  Speaker 2: just watched a lot of movies. I was also knocking
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  Speaker 2: out some short films, which I don't if you spend
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  Speaker 2: enough time on letterbox spaces. Some people feel like short
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  Speaker 2: films are cheating. But it's a fucking movie, man. Like
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  Speaker 2: if someone made that, I'm going to rank the same
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  Speaker 2: thing with Like if if if the occasional times at
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  Speaker 2: behind the scenes documentary that's on a Blu ray is
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  Speaker 2: on letterbox.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I count it, should I count limited series? Whatever
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  Speaker 3: I can rate on letterbox, I'm counting it.
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  Speaker 2: So if you want me to stick to to horror
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  Speaker 2: in terms of what I watched.
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  Speaker 3: Nah, we usually I rattle off my I mean, that's
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  Speaker 3: the primary thing I watch. But what whatever that's just
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  Speaker 3: stood out or or maybe been been bad. I always
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  Speaker 3: love hearing about a bad movie.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, I'm not gonna well I will. I
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  Speaker 2: will start with some horror. I watched Black Phone two
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  Speaker 2: first time. Yeah, what do you think? Well, first off,
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  Speaker 2: I just love the quote fuck you with the dinosaur dick.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was great love that.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to love this film, and I think some
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  Speaker 2: of so I liked it. I gave it three stars
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  Speaker 2: out of five, which I don't care what anyone says,
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  Speaker 2: is still a solid score. Like for me, if someone
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  Speaker 2: give a movie three star, I'm like, this is not
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  Speaker 2: a waste of time. No, there's there's there's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: some enjoyment to be had. I think ultimately, I just
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  Speaker 2: don't like Scott Derekson's thing. I don't like his like
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  Speaker 2: I like his I like some of his movies, but
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  Speaker 2: I feel like his style is a little aggressive sometimes,
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  Speaker 2: Like I really feel like someone sud have been like, bro,
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  Speaker 2: do we need to do all of this super eight footage?
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  Speaker 2: I love the nightmare and Elm Street vibes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, agreed, it's a little.
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  Speaker 2: Talkie, it's a little long. He's I feel like he's
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  Speaker 2: almost trying to do like a Flannagan thing where it's like,
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  Speaker 2: let's have some really big monologues for no reason. Hmm. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I'd love to see a ninety minute fan cut of
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  Speaker 2: this movie, because then I think it would be fucking great.
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  Speaker 2: But I love the visual references to eighties horror films,
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  Speaker 2: and I swear to god, I think that was a
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  Speaker 2: Curtains reference in that movie.
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  Speaker 3: It might have been honestly genius.
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  Speaker 2: The scene of the grabber ice skating, It's like, this
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  Speaker 2: is straight out of Curtains.
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  Speaker 3: And that was honestly fucking horrifying. And it's funny that
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  Speaker 3: you it's so funny because who was I talking to
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  Speaker 3: you about this? Oh? It was the extra system of
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  Speaker 3: Emily Rose episode with Spencer, and we were talking about
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  Speaker 3: how underrated we think he is because I'm looking at
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  Speaker 3: everything I've ranked by him four and a half, four
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  Speaker 3: and a half, seven, eight, eight eight. Clearly I love
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  Speaker 3: whatever he's got going on in the movies. But uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, not everyone's gonna agree on everything, so I get.
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  Speaker 2: Something something wrong. I like the Black Black Phone, I
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  Speaker 2: like a lot Sinister, I like, okay, the Gorge. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't like. I didn't like Doctor Strange. I didn't like
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  Speaker 2: the Livers for me, oh man, he's kind of intermiss
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  Speaker 2: with me, but I I think he's uh, he's interesting,
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  Speaker 2: and I like his I like his writing partner quite
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  Speaker 2: a bit too, so like I will still I'll still
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  Speaker 2: see the stuff he makes.
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  Speaker 3: Brian Brian Woods, Is that se uh?
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  Speaker 2: C Robert Cargill?
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  Speaker 3: Oh okay, I was fucking way off, all right, black phone?
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  Speaker 3: Too cool? What else we got?
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  Speaker 2: I watched Pogonia.
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  Speaker 3: Oh god, I have the four K of that and
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  Speaker 3: still need to watch it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, what a fucking picture, dude, especially because, like
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  Speaker 2: I went into it dragging my feet because I did
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  Speaker 2: not want to watch because so Yrgo's lanthemos is I
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  Speaker 2: hated Poor Things with a fucking burning pang.
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  Speaker 3: Whoa, Okay, so I.
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  Speaker 2: Had no interest in Bogonia?
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  Speaker 3: What else have you seen by him? Though?
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  Speaker 2: Honestly it was Poor Things that was where I started.
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  Speaker 3: Oh man, you gotta you gotta go back. You gotta
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  Speaker 3: go back to dog Tooth and then kill kill deer.
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  Speaker 2: How much I liked Pogonia. I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: go back and give this guy a try. But just
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  Speaker 2: like the fact that Poor Things was the movie that
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  Speaker 2: was getting them so much fucking attention, and I just
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  Speaker 2: thought it was uh, morally kind of gross. I just
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  Speaker 2: struggled with the film.
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  Speaker 3: It will if you go back and watch his other movies.
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  Speaker 3: I guarantee it might contextualize his style a bit more
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  Speaker 3: for you. I'm not saying you're gonna like it, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but you might understand it a little more.
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  Speaker 2: That's a fair point. That's actually one of the things
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  Speaker 2: that I was talking to a friend recently about with
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  Speaker 2: One Battle after another m she watched it, and I
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  Speaker 2: think it might have been her only pta film. Oh okay,
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  Speaker 2: you know, She's like, I didn't get it, and she's like,
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  Speaker 2: given some very valid criticism of what she didn't enjoy
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  Speaker 2: about it.
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  Speaker 3: Huh.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, is this the first film you've
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  Speaker 2: seen by him? And I only ask because his this
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  Speaker 2: is kind of a culmination of his work leading up
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  Speaker 2: to this. And I even said, I'm surprised this movie
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  Speaker 2: was a big fucking hit that so many people loved it,
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  Speaker 2: because it's a movie that I feel like works best
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  Speaker 2: if you know his filmography, right, I'm down for that.
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  Speaker 2: So Bogonia kind of turned my opinion on your part
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  Speaker 2: of me also like, I'm not gonna lie. So I
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  Speaker 2: really didn't like Poor Things all right, and then the
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  Speaker 2: year after he did Kinds of Kindness also with Emma Stone.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I seen that.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't see that, but I remember the ad campaign
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  Speaker 2: was annoying, the shoot out of me because anything I've
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  Speaker 2: ever seen it was just the kinds of Kindness and
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  Speaker 2: it was Ellen Page just not Ellen Paid, sorry, Emma
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  Speaker 2: Stone just doing the worst dancing and like that's all
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  Speaker 2: they were doing to promote it. I'm like, Okay, I'm
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  Speaker 2: done with this. I'm done with this, so I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: give him another shot. Because I liked Pogonia.
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  Speaker 3: So much, I recommend if you're gonna give him another shot,
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  Speaker 3: start with the Lobster. I think that's one of his
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  Speaker 3: strongest ones. Also, Colin Farrell's in it. John c Riley
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  Speaker 3: is in it in a dramatic role, So yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: recommend that one. And then completely having your world flipped
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  Speaker 3: upside down with the killing of a sacred deer.
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  Speaker 2: I got a couple more I can I can rattle off.
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  Speaker 2: It's really how much time you want to spend on this?
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  Speaker 3: Uh yeah, rattle off a couple more because mine are
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  Speaker 3: gonna be quick.
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  Speaker 2: Al Right. I watched because I wanted this was a
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  Speaker 2: couple of weeks. This is like a week or two ago.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted a nostalgia boost, so I watched Three Ninjas
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  Speaker 2: and Three Ninjas Knuckle Up.
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  Speaker 3: That's a great sequel name. I love it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing about the three Ninjas film. So
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  Speaker 2: there's there's four three Ninjas films. There's three Ninjas. There,
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  Speaker 2: there's three Ninjas kick Back, three Ninjas knuckle Up, and
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  Speaker 2: three ninches high noon a mega mountain.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 2: But here's the thing. So the second film that came
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  Speaker 2: out was three ninches Kick Back. But what's strange is
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  Speaker 2: it was made after the third film, which is three
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  Speaker 2: ninchaes knuckle Up. They apparently shot three ninches and three
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  Speaker 2: inches knuckle Up back to back, so it is the
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  Speaker 2: true sequel, has the original cast and everything, but something
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  Speaker 2: happened and it couldn't get released, so they made another
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  Speaker 2: sequel that came out first and then released. It's a
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  Speaker 2: fucking nightmare.
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  Speaker 3: Doesn't make sense.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense, and I love it. I also
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  Speaker 2: watched for research this documentary called Dumb the story of
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  Speaker 2: Big Brother Magazine. It is essentially the origins of Jackass
• 9:50
  Speaker 2: and c Ky Nice, and then the last two things
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  Speaker 2: I watched I watched The Smashing Machine. Okay, the Rock Johnson,
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  Speaker 2: directed by Benny SAFTI liked it quite a bit. I
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  Speaker 2: think I like Marty Supreme Moore. Jason Hillman is in disagreement.
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  Speaker 2: He likes he was reversed on that one. Okay, but
• 10:07
  Speaker 2: is the there's a so I don't know if you
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: know anything about this movie. This movie is about the
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  Speaker 2: it's not about the rockets. The Rock is playing Mark Kerr, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: a MMA fighter that revolutionize the sport. He is transformative
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  Speaker 2: in this movie. The makeup and he has this really
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  Speaker 2: funny curly haircut.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I noticed that from the trailers. I was like,
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  Speaker 3: I think that's uh yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But there's a funny point where in the movie the
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  Speaker 2: character shaves his head and then I'm like, there's Rock there.
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  Speaker 2: He is, I recognize him, but then he grows there's
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  Speaker 2: a little tiny goatee and I'm like, where'd he go?
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  Speaker 3: I'm losing you behind the goatee, sir.
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  Speaker 2: But career best performance from him and I and the
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: movie was not a hit, and I hope that doesn't
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: dissuade him from trying different things. And finally, I watched
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  Speaker 2: ruf Man with Channing Tatum.
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  Speaker 3: Surprising Thing, Yeah, good stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Directed by Derek c. And France, who did movies like
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  Speaker 2: The Place Beyond the Pines and Blue Valentine.
• 11:08
  Speaker 3: Blue Valentine. Now I'm thinking Blue Velvet. Never mind.
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  Speaker 2: This is a depressing love story Storry, Ryan Gosling and
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  Speaker 2: the show Willie.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna pass on that. I don't need a depressing
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  Speaker 3: love story, but.
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  Speaker 2: This movie was. It was actually a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 2: It's about It's essentially a good guy, Robert who breaks
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: into He breaks into McDonald's by breaking in through the roof.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's the one I got from Alliance. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Really good. And then he has to live in a
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  Speaker 2: Toys r us for six months.
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  Speaker 3: A true story as well.
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  Speaker 2: That's amazing, It's funny, there is some emotional weight to it.
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  Speaker 2: Solid me and Jason said, this is a movie that
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  Speaker 2: if it would have come on T and T in
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  Speaker 2: the nineties, it would have been a sleeper fucking hit,
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: mid mid mid level budget with some stars.
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  Speaker 3: All Right, we watch I love it. I love it.
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  Speaker 3: So I've been getting into I'll go through phases of
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  Speaker 3: true crime and I'm in the thick of it now
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  Speaker 3: watched one called Gone Girls, The Long Island serial Killer.
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  Speaker 3: Good Christ, that was a that was a whole story.
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  Speaker 3: That one's on Netflix if you want to check it out.
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  Speaker 3: I gave it four out of five. The name is
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  Speaker 3: self explanatory. Long Island serial Killer. This guy is insane.
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  Speaker 3: And then I'm in the middle of two other true crimes.
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  Speaker 3: One I just started called the Staircase, and then the
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  Speaker 3: other one.
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  Speaker 2: I've heard of the Staircase. I've not watched that one yet.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I had like a three point eight out of
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  Speaker 3: five on Letterbox.
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  Speaker 2: And I was watching the documentary right correct.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like minutes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they did make it into a limit to a
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  Speaker 2: limited series as well, where they like dramatized it. But
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  Speaker 2: I've heard that documentary is incredible. I haven't had Netflix
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  Speaker 2: in a while, so I keep forgetting to watch it.
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  Speaker 2: When I do have Netflix, I don't know which one
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  Speaker 2: I'm watching.
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  Speaker 3: Then the one i'm watching is on Netflix and it's
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  Speaker 3: six hundred and twenty nine minutes. It's got like eight
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  Speaker 3: or let's.
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  Speaker 2: See documentary or does it have people?
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  Speaker 3: Well it's a third It says limited series and it's
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  Speaker 3: thirteen episodes.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't appear that there's it's been dramatized.
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  Speaker 2: So because then there's the Netflix, I believe there is
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  Speaker 2: the there's a movie.
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  Speaker 3: Oh maybe I'm watching the wrong thing.
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  Speaker 2: No, you might be watching the right because like The
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  Speaker 2: Staircase stars Colin Firth and Tony Kollett. Dramatization.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm not watching that.
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  Speaker 2: Popping up in your documentary.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm in. I just started that one, and then
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  Speaker 3: my wife and I are in the middle of another
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  Speaker 3: one called the program cons Cult and Kidnapping. It's about
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  Speaker 3: those establishments that would, you know, steal your kid in
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  Speaker 3: the middle of the night and send them away to
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  Speaker 3: this camp. But there's a lot of abuse happening there.
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  Speaker 3: That shit is crazy and and I just this just dropped. Actually,
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  Speaker 3: I hadn't even fucking heard of this. It's called Something
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  Speaker 3: Very Bad Is Gonna Happen. It dropped on March twenty sixth,
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  Speaker 3: and I don't even really want to explain it that much,
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  Speaker 3: but I was watching it and about every five to
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  Speaker 3: ten minutes just going what the fuck. And then by
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  Speaker 3: the end of it, I was like, this might be
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  Speaker 3: one of the greatest It has potential to be one
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  Speaker 3: of the greatest Netflix originals because that first episode was like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't even know what's the word captivating, enthralling. I
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  Speaker 3: was so hooged by the end of that first episode.
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  Speaker 3: And I think it's a total episodes. And by the way,
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  Speaker 3: they are marketing this as a Duffer Brothers project. They
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  Speaker 3: are only fucking producers okay, with like six other people.
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  Speaker 2: I love when they do that, and when I say
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: I love it, I hate it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is not a Duffer Brother's project. They are
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  Speaker 3: just financing it. They did not write it, did not
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  Speaker 3: direct it. So please don't let that, uh if they're marketing,
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  Speaker 3: since they're marketing it that way, don't let that, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it make you not want to watch?
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god? Uh well, one, I do have a
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  Speaker 2: I have a documentary recommendation for you in a second.
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  Speaker 2: But this reminds me so. David Robert Mitchell, who directed it, follows, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: he has this new movie coming out.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, The The The Oak Street.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm really annoyed every time I see it, and
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  Speaker 2: mentioned people keep saying this new JJ Abrams film because
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  Speaker 2: he's a producer on it. It's like, it's not JJ
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  Speaker 2: abrams film. Funk off.
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  Speaker 3: I think they're just using the bigger name I guess
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  Speaker 3: to draw people in, but a lot of people don't
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  Speaker 3: likes because like.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the thing with the jj Abrams thing. If if
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  Speaker 2: if someone had been like this new jj Abrams film
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  Speaker 2: like pass but if they're like the director from it
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  Speaker 2: falls like tell me.
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  Speaker 3: More, I'm in. So what's recommendation?
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  Speaker 2: So this one is on HBO in a man to
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  Speaker 2: watch this think last year called Love Has Won the
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  Speaker 2: Cult of Mother God.
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  Speaker 3: Love Has One.
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  Speaker 2: This one is about this this woman named Amy Carlston,
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  Speaker 2: who is the leader of this cult called Love Has One,
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  Speaker 2: and it's a conspiracy theorist just insanity cult where this
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  Speaker 2: woman is like taking a colide silver that is turning
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  Speaker 2: her skin blue and she believes that she is going
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: to like become one with God. It's in everyone in
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: this documentary's folly insane. It's produced by the Softy Brothers.
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  Speaker 2: It's shit wild.
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  Speaker 3: There's another one that involves something in Our Mother God.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't I haven't watched this one, so I'm
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  Speaker 3: adding that to my watch list. Okay, so yeah, that's
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: what I'm in the middle of with true crime stuff.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: But then I did watch a new horror movie for
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  Speaker 3: this year that Gabby actually found called Pretty Lethal. It's
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  Speaker 3: on Prime and I did a little review for this
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: that I'm gonna post today. But just take john Wick
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: and then take Black Swan and then take green Room
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  Speaker 3: and just mash them all together. And that's what this
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  Speaker 3: movie is. And that's all I'm gonna say. Uma Thurman
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  Speaker 3: is in it.
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  Speaker 2: Gallerina nazis, No.
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  Speaker 3: Not Nazis Okay, sorry, sorry, green Room in the sense
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  Speaker 3: that there are people trapped in a place they absolutely
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  Speaker 3: should not be, with a very immediate threat outside. Thank you,
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: thank you for making me specify. And then john Wick
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  Speaker 3: because it is it turns into a bloodbath with a
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: Russian mob. And then you know, Black Swan because there's
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: ballerinas in it. So but yeah, I give that four
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: four out of five. It's called pretty Lethal. Iris Apatow
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: is in it, and Uma Thurman is in it as well,
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: oh Man as well, and she's got a very thick
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: Russian accent. It's very Milicent Simmons is also in it.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: She she was the deaf character from a quiet Place
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: and they just had her, you know, she was just
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: in this movie as a deaf character. They didn't make
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: it her entire identity. And I appreciate that. And then
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: my cult movie challenge this week? Oh man, what was it?
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: I I can't believe I'm already forgetting. Oh it was
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: udo Ker week and yeah, he's got four million credits,
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: so that was hard to narrow down. But I did
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: watch Shadow of the Vampire, which was incredible.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: That was the.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: Yep, it's it's basically the making of nose Faratu. So
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: it's like one of those films inside of films.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Why would you eat the cinematographer?
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: Oh, it's so good. Fucking what's his name? John Malkovich
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: is like in rare form.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: The range from Willem Dafoe was incredible. It was so good.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, I can't. I mean, you have to
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: have seen the original movie for it to make.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Sense, and I saw it before I saw.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: See I think you should watch the original because they
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: recreate so many shots almost perfectly.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: I appreciated it more after, but it's almost since I
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: knew of Nosfaratu. True yeah, yea, yeah, you should at
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: least know what Nospharatu is.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: Okay, so even if you haven't watched it, I would
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: recommend watching it after. But Shadow the Vampire was amazing.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: I haven't rated it yet.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: I saw that movie it way too young of an.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: Age, Shadow of the Vampire.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: I saw it like ten years old.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say, it's from two thousand and one.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: It's pretty pretty old.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: It's wait, No, that wouldn't been two thousand and one.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: It wouldn't have been ten. I would have been No.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: I saw this movie like right before high school, so
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: I was probably.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Twelve or thirteen then, yeah, yea, yeah, all right, so
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: that's what I've been watching. Good stuff. Here, let's roll
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: into the body count.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: I'm never ready for that.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: I know every time. So this again is from nineteen
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: seventy three, released on July eighteenth of that year in
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: the US, rated PG. I mean PG thirteen didn't exist,
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: and I guess.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: PG was kind of the de facto PG thirteen.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's a woman who was basically nude in
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: this movie. Crazy shit.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Yes, I got thoughts about that one too.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: Mild six and nudity, moderate violence and gore, moderate profanity,
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: mild alcohol, drugs and smoking, and moderate frightening and atten
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: scenes coming in at an hour and thirty nine minutes.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: Listed as a horror sci fi directed by Bernard L Kowalski.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: He directed a movie I've seen from the fifties called
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: Night of the Blood Beasts and Attack of the Giant Leeches,
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: which I also believe is from the fifties, and then
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: just a metric fuck ton of epistotic television. I don't
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: even want to get into how much he's done. He's
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: done a lot written by two people, Hal Dresner, who
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: also wrote Cool Hand Luke, even though it's technically uncredited,
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: and then something called Zoro the Gay Blade from nineteen
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: eighty one, which I I'm very interested in that. And
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: then we have Daniel C. Strepeecky, who only wrote this movie,
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: but he does have one hundred and thirteen credits for
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: the makeup department from nineteen fifty six to two thousand
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: and six. The highlights here are Planet of the Apes
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: nineteen sixty eight and a lot of the subsequent sequels
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: Harry and the Hendersons, and then basically every Tom Hanks
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: movie from nineteen eighty nine to two thousand and six.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Which knows how to make how Tom Hanks look.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Good apparently so composed by Patrick Williams. He also composed
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: Evil Knievel from nineteen seventy one All of Me and
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: Cry Baby cinematography by Gerald Gerald Perry Finnerman, who also
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: did the cinematography for sixty episodes of the original Star
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: Trek series Devil Dog, The Hell, The Hound of Hell,
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: and then fifty episodes fifty eight episodes of Moonlighting, edited
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: by Robert Watts. He also edited eleven episode of Maverick,
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: fourteen episodes of the Mission Impossible television show, and just
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: one episode of Colombo Combo and I'd swy threw it.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: I threw that one in there for you, uh, starring
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Struther Martin as doctor Carl Stoner, who was also in
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Cool Hand Luke as Captain and I love this up
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: in Smoke as mister Stoner. So he's played a Stoner twice,
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: which is fucking great. You've got Dirk Benedict as David Blade.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: He was in the Battlestar Galactica movie from nineteen seventy
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: eight as Lieutenant Starbuck. You have Heather Menzies as Christina Stoner.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: She was in Piranha in nineteen seventy eight as Maggie McKeown.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Robert B. Shol as doctor Ken Daniels. He was in
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: House Sitter as Ralph and then Tim O'Connor as Cogan.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: He was in twenty one episodes of Buck Rogers in
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: the twenty fifth century as doctor Elias Heuer. Estimated budget
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: of one point three million, with the worldwide box office
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: gross of nothing. I could find. Couldn't even find where
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: this fucking movie was filmed, because I don't go anywhere
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: else besides IMDb, because I am lazy. You can watch
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: this on Amazon for a three ninety nine rental. Movies
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: that came.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Out was shot in California, shot at the backwats of
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: the Universal.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: There you Go, There you Go. Movies that came out
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: around the same time. We have Soylent Green, Ganja and Hess,
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: Son of Dracula, Coffee, Battle for the Planet of the Apes,
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: The Legend of Hell House Screen Blacula Scream, Enter the Dragon,
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: an American graffiti that is a pretty solid good section
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: of time. IMDb summary. A college student becomes lab assistant
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: to a scientist who is working on a serum that
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: can transform humans into snakes. Let's go into the autopsy.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: You know that gives away too much because honestly, let's
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: be real here, that's like the big reveal of the movie.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: So it's strange that they're just flying out of the
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: gate with that, But I mean, how else are you
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: gonna interest people? I guess.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Well, Plus, it's like the movie's called with seven s's
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: and I only memorize that because I gotta it was
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: pain in the ass having to type this in every time.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I memorize that as well.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, there's gonna be snakes involved.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: So I just feel like I get why they felt
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: the need to spoil that. I don't know if I
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: would have, but I also would have given it a
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: more vague name.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: That's true. That's true. The original title was gonna be snake,
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: but then they just snipped off the nake at the end.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Indiana Jones should definitely not watch this movie. That's That's
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: what I'm gonna start with. But typically I like, I'll
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: dive into a random part of the movie and we'll
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: go from there. But we have to start directly at
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: the beginning because text on screen my favorite thing ever.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: But it is actually telling us that all of the
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: reptiles shown in this film are real. The king Kobras
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: were imported from Bangkok, the python from Singapore. We wish
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: to thank the cast and crew for their courageous efforts
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: while being exposed to extremely hazardous conditions. If that doesn't
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: encompass the seventies, I fucking don't know what else does.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: It is the reptile equivalent of the movie roar.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: Like they legitimately had venomous snakes. All right, we're doing this.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: I hope your insurance is very high.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: But they could have been defanged. We don't know that.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: They probably were. I mean, that's what I'm thinking.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm thinking because if I don't like snakes anyway,
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: so I wouldn't have done this film. They would have
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: put a lot of zeros afterwards.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: Right, And I don't mind snakes. I just don't like
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: the ones that are venomous, so I don't like those.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: But yeah, if I had to guess, I would say
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: they were probably defanged. But I don't feel like I
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: saw any teeth with the King Kobra. But at the
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: same time, I don't know if I feel like some
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: snakes keep their teeth hidden until right before they bite.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: So right, I don't know what snakes too.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: Not a fucking expert on snakes, but I would like
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: to start talking about the seventies because animal attack movies
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: were everywhere, and obviously that's mainly because of the success
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: of Jaws in nineteen seventy five, but even before Jaws,
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: right from from seventy to seventy four, you had movies
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: like Knight of the Lepis, Frogs, Our Movie Today and Bugs,
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: and then after Jaws you'd get Grizzly Squirm, Empire of
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: the Ants, Kingdom of the Spiders, The Pack Tentacles, Orca
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: Piranha Prophecy. So like, the seventies were almost bloated with
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: animal attack movies. And I don't think it's necessarily a
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: bad thing, but I find it interesting. I just didn't
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: realize until I was looking it up. I'm like, oh, wow,
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: this was kind of a theme. Oh it seventies.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: It definitely was, and it became even more so after Jaws,
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: right because then animal attack film started becoming It's Jaws
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: but with point, like one of my favorite. So I
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: actually really like an animal attack film. I love an
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: animal attack film and I also love a bigfoot film,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: and they usually are one and the same because like,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: let's you know, let's do Jaws but with a bigfoot. Yeah,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: one of my favorite animal attack films of all time.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Is William Gerdwer's Grizzly.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's jobs. Yeah, John's with pause.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: That's oh my god, Jaws with pause. That actually makes
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: it adorable.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: I love Grizzly.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Have you great?
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: Have you seen the sequel to Christy and I have not.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: It was a movie that was lost for like ever,
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: and then they found it, but then they added in
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: scenes like shot clearly in the year that it was.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: Really it's a fucking insane movie. Not good, but it's
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: a lot of fun. Uh So I highly recommend that.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: And uh but yeah, so seventies full of full of
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: animal attack movies and we're not I'm not even gonna
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: get into the eighties, but I do want to mention
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: just one from the eighties called Venom, which is from
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: nineteen eighty one. I actually did it on my I
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: think I did it on my Cult Movie Challenge this year,
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: I believe. And that's also another movie where they actually
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: were using real snakes in the movie, which is pretty cool.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: And Toby Hooper was supposed to direct but then had
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: to drop out and was actually replaced. Oh that's right,
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: it was for Hooptober. That was going to be my
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: Tobey Hooper film, and then I just moved into my
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: cult challenge, and.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Then I also want to just bring up a little bit.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: So it's like, obviously this film does have some connective
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: tissue with animal attack films. I feel like the sub
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: genre of horror that this movie, realistically, I think fits
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: more into is body horror.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: And if you think about where body horror was at
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: in the nineteen seventies, there wasn't a lot. Don't get
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: me wrong, I'm sure there's something existed. You obviously had
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: things like Philip Kaufman's Invasion of the Body Snatchers, and
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: you also had but before that, you had a lot
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: of stuff in the nineteen fifties like The Blob and
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: the Fly that I think so this movie has a
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: lot to do with body horror, and I feel like
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: some people sometimes forget that body horror did not start
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: with David Cronenberg. He's not the first one to do it.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: He obviously made it his own, but you have a
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: lot of things like Mary Shelley's Frankenstein in its own
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: way is a body horror film. But yeah, I'm talking
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: about the book.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: Oh I'm sorry, Yeah, yeah, yes, Ma.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: The source material is very much a body horror piece.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: But then a lot of movies were influenced off of
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Franz Kafka is The Metamorphosis, which is a literary example.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: But then, like I said, well, David Cronenberg really did
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: help bring it to the forefront some of those nineteen
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: fifties horror films, and then it's it's it's history with
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: the literary world and even in its own way, something
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: like Georgia Merrow's Knight of the Living Dead or all
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: kind of early examples of body horror. So like, it's
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: kind of interesting to watch this film as a as
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: a early example of body.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: Horror, right, And it's not overly grotesque, it's not anything gross.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: It's PG rated, so it's very tame. But I mean,
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: you're absolutely right, it definitely fits into the body horror category.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: And it's also mad scientists as well, because you have
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: a guy performing experiments on someone who against their will,
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: not even against their will, they're not even aware of
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: what's happening until it is basically too late. So and
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: I do love how that movie or that movie, the
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: movie wastes zero time establishing that the environment David has
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: found himself in is not safe, but David kind of
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: ignores all the red flags.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: I think. I think there's a general set there's a
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: very important theme in this film of just because someone's
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: a doctor doesn't mean you should blindly trust this. Correct,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: you should question the things around you and question the
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: things that you're This is gonna make me some anti
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Vaccine's not the case. I do believe in trusting science
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: and trusting the experts, but I'm also a firm believer
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: in asking questions. Correct, Yes, asking questions. Uh And granted
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: it's person would have led to David anyways. But you know,
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: whenever my whenever me and my doctor, and I trust
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: my doctor and I love my doctor. Whenever we talk
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: about a new medication, I ask a boatload of questions. Yeah,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: I feel of knowledge is power. But please, the vaccinature
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: fucking kids.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah please, let's let's let's all do that. Everyone. Everyone
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: needs to just do it. It's not let's not fight it.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Add a PostScript to that, No, that's fine. I didn't
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: want people to think that I'm some right wing nut
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: job now.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: And I'm I'm I'm also backing you up to establish
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: the same things. So uh so, yeah, I mean, you know,
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: the house full of snakes, the job description vague at best.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: The employer, doctor Stoner, Uh yeah, not to mention the
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: fact that, uh, most of the snakes in there are
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: highly venomous, and within a few minutes of being there,
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: doctor Joner and you know, inject something into David and
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: he's like, ah, it's just an im immunization, And I'm like,
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: I bet it's not. Like yeah, You're like, I don't.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: I don't trust that I wouldn't be stuck with a
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: needle five seconds after being in there. But trust Ruther
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: Martin exactly exactly. I you know, at least you do.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: I don't think I've seen him in much else besides
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: the cool hand Luke.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: But Luke, he was also a piece of shit.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: So Okay, it's been a minute since I've watched that movie.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: Maybe time to go on Like this, Struther Martin just
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: binge here. But I think this creates kind of a
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: slow creeping dread because like, we know something is wrong,
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: but David is completely oblivious. And I think that ignorance
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: is exactly what doctor Stoner is counting on, because he's
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: just going along merrily as can be. He has no
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: idea that doctor Stoner is injecting him with his here
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: I'm designed to transform him into a snake, and not
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: like metaphorically, like literally, he wants to make him a snake,
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: which is I mean, that's gotta be one of the
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: most original ideas for a film I've seen. I don't
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: besides like animorphs and shit, has there been another movie
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: where someone like Tusk but you know that was more
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: body modification than anything.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: I don't think. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, right
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: real it could. I don't think I've ever seen a
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: movie where someone gets turned into.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: A snake, Yeah, into exactly. So it's incredibly original, I
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: think in that way. And I think one of the
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: key details here about doctor Stoner is is he really
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: believes that snakes are evolutionary, evolutionarily god, that's a fuck
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: up a word superior, And he's like, yeah, I can
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: improve the human race, like I can fix that, Especially
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: because he seems to give his life at the end
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: for not wanting to get caught. I don't know. I
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: don't know if he was suspicious about getting caught after
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: all of the events that went down, or if he
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: accidentally got bit by that cobra. I don't know, but
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: it seemed like he was kind of willing to just
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: go down.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: I feel like he always knew that the king that
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: he refers to him as was going to take him down, right.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: He had a lot of reverence for that animal, but
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: at the same time, like he knew that this was
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: a more powerful creature than he has, and like I
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: think he even he even has that line in the
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: movie where he's like, I, you know, when he got
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: bit by a different snake. You know, I think this
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: is my I'm getting older, I'm getting slower. This is
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: a sign that I need to not play with the king, essentially,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: And it actually, unrelated kind of reminds me of an
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: interview I just recently watched with Johnny Knoxville where he
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: did an interview with Rolling Stone, and Johnny Knoxville was
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: at sixteen concussions.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: Is this about the ball?
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, tell it.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Like him him talking, So Johnny Knoxvielle talks about how
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: he can no longer do any stunts with bulls, and
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: he got really emotional about it because not that he
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: likes hurting himself, but he actually loves and respects bulls,
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: and he's always little gitimally enjoyed doing those stunts, which
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: is insane because he nearly dies every fucking time.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the one where he got flipped up like a
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: fucking pancake into the air and flipped around while blindfolded,
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: that was that had to be rough.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Or there's that him getting flipped upside down? Was the
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: post for Jackass.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: Four, Yeah, exactly's a lunatic.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he got legitimately like upset about it. And
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: probably because I've just been so invested in the world
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: of Jackass for something I'm writing, I really felt that
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: that moment. I have to say, this movie on letterbox
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: is a two point eight average. I actually think that's
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: kind of low. I found this movie really working on me. Like,
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: we haven't talked about our general thoughts yet, but yeah.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, we didn't even start with that. Ha wow, Okay,
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: let's just let's just throw those in now. I'm not
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: even gonna fix it in the edit. Let's just start
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: with let's start with ten minutes into the review overall thoughts, Michael,
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: why don't you tell me that? And then we'll go
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: into the rest of the format. I had. I totally forgot.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: I thought we were just trying something new.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Oh, I don't even know my own fucking format. I'm
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: on a lot of drugs. And by drugs, I mean
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: DayQuil ibuprofen.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Uh, drugs in your thirties drugs.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: I'm partying over here.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: All right. So overall thoughts, I think two point eight
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: is well for this movie. So I went into this
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: movie thinking this movie was going to be very cheesy
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: and very over the top. There is some of that,
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, but I was not prepared for
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: a slow Burn film that is acted very earnestly and
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: all like in the makeup. Actually people can laugh at
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: the makeup. I think it's actually really good for the
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: time period.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: Two seventy three, absolutely.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: And like the poster is incredible for this movie. But
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: I found this movie really what I was this movie
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: was really working on. Part of that is I just
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: have an innate dislike and fear of snakes.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: Okay, so.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: There there's a whole section in the middle of this
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: film where they're just doing close ups of snakes and
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: close ups of of what's what's the actors name David
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: getting injections the entire time, and it just I found
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: myself kind of squirming a little bit. Yeah, so like
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: it's not like I'm hiding under a blanket scared, but
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: it was it was getting to me. It was affecting
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: me because I know these snakes, these are real snakes,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: and there is inherent stakes with that sad yeah, but
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: then there's also just a lot of suspect, Like that
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: scene where Struther's Martin the first time he's trying to
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: extract Vanom from the King Kobra. I was fucking edge
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: of my seat because it was so well put together.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: I agree for for a movie that I had seen
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: the title, probably from Screen Factory's website. I have the
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Blu ray, but I just never got.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: I need to pick that Blue ray up.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just never got around to it. And then
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: when I was doing this month, I was like, oh,
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: this is kind of mad science, you know, experimentations on humans.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: Let's throw it in there. And then and it's the
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: wild card pick because it's in the range of two
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: point four to two point nine, and yeah, I feel
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: the same exact way. I was into it from the beginning.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: And then it was you know, we're getting like the
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: third act and I'm thinking, all right, I mean, I'm
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: enjoying this, but then the last thirty minutes of that
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: movie ramp up so quickly that I almost wanted a
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: little bit more, which is rare for me to say.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: I almost wanted like five more minutes, ten more minutes.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: Just that I was because I was getting stressed at
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: the end movie.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's and then the whole carnival aspect of it. Yeah,
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: it's really working on me. I don't know. There's something
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: about this film that I thought was incredibly effective, And
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know if this is a thought that is
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: best put here later on or we can expand upon it.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: So this movie predates Toby Hooper's entry into the world
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: of filmmaking by a year. This feels so Toby Hooper
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: coded in that I feel like I can see Toby
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Hooper doing a remake of this film.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: I wish he really got a direct Venom, because then
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: that would have been our snake film with Toby Hooper
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: at the Helm. You know. So I agree. I think
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: I read your review for that. You're like, I'd really
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: love to see, you know, Toby Hooper's take on this,
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, you know what, I think I would
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: like to see that as well, yeah, because, like.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: I said, even though this movie predates Toby Hooper, there's
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: just elements of his visual style, Like I see some
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: of Funhouse in this obviously with the carnival. Yeah, I
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: see some of God, what is his what is his
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: alligator movie called?
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: I think it's just called alligator, Isn't it?
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Isn't it?
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: Is it not that simple?
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: It's simple eating a live.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: Oh, eating alive?
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, okay, I see some of eating a live
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: in this film. I don't know. I almost think it's
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: like because this movie is very well clear to me
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: because I'm a nerd for a classic cinema. It's very
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: clearly shot on the Universal backlots, and I was like, man,
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: I would like to see this just Toby Hooper find
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: a shitty house in the middle of Texas and just
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: make this even great because this is already kind of
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: a gritty movie. It's a pretty low budget Universal film. Yeah,
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: I'd love to see Toby Hooper's like micro budget correct version. Well.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: And it's crazy too because when Universal popped up for
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: you know, the first production company, I was like, WHOA.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: I was not expecting this to be a Universal production
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: at all, So that was kind of crazy to me.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: But yeah, this movie really works for me, and I'm
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: really glad it worked for you, because nothing is worse
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: than when I have someone on the episode and they're like,
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: I did not like that movie. It makes me feel bad.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: So I'm glad it works for you and it works
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: for me because there is and it fits so perfectly
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: with the slow burn aspect because a lot of seventies
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: movies are like that. A lot of seventies movies have
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: that slow burn quality to them. And I was not
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: expecting the Carnival, which was amazing. I wasn't expecting the
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: last thirty minutes to be anxiety, like riddled with anxiety,
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: and then some of the stuff that Stoner even does,
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: like this man is going to the extreme to get
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: what he wants and then once he's once he's done it,
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: he's like, all right, I'm out. David's gonna go off
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: into the world, make these reptilian humanoid creatures and then
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: humanity will be saved.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Plus it's kind of drunk snake who doesn't like a drunks.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: I loved Harold so much, his relationship with Harold, and
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: then the fucking guy kills him, and I'm like, how
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: dare you? How dare you do this to me? The
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: audacity of fucking Steve whatever his name was, God damn
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: it exactly how I feel too. Yeah, that was the
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: most gut wrenching kill of the entire movie, was Harold.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: I was like, son of a bitch.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got more things to say about Harry the Snake,
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: but I like, and I know you, I want to
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: make sure we stick to your format.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: Now you might as well. We're we're here, you might
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: as well go for it.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: Well, one thing I think was so genius about the
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: character of Harry at the Snake or Harold. I don't
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: remember exactly how he's credited. Are you familiar with the
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: term a window character?
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, I know I know the phrase, but you're
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: gonna have to remind me of what it actually is.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: So a window character is a character that your your
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: wead character can speak to and essentially show the window
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: of their soul. Yeah, that's why it's called a window character.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: It's usually a character you deliver exposition for two, and
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: that's Harry. Harry is there for us to be able
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: to get doctor Stoner's innermost thoughts. You know, they could
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: have easily done it with like a tape recorder, which
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: they do at some points. But like, I feel like
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: he's able to be more of himself and open up
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: with with Harold the Snake, And I think that is
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: a really smart choice.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Like I said, I love their little relationship that
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: they had, and I love the line too, when Christina
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: comes home and they had you know, they'd both been drinking.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: He's like, all right, Old Harry, it's time to act
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: sober now. I was like, this is the cutest goddamn
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: relationship with this like twelve foot fucking bull. Python love
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: well because the character.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Of doctor Stoner, he is one way around David. He's
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: very clinical and he shows some warmth to David because
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: ultimately David is his experiment, right, and he doesn't want
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: anything bad besides turning him into a snake, but he
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: doesn't do that as a bad thing necessarily. He reacts
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: one way with David, right, he acts another way with
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: his daughter. But I feel like he's most himself with
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Harold exactly.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: I agree, And without.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: That character you wouldn't have that.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: That's true because with David, he is not loud and chaotic.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: He's calm and he's completely convinced that he's right. He's
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: He's not really evil in this dramatic way towards David.
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: He's more evil in a, you know, to himself, this
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: seems reasonable to me type of way. And I don't
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: think he ever sees himself as the villain. He just
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: views David as his stepping stone.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: He treats the transformation as progress, you know, and in
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: the right direction.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: No, And actually, what Struther's Martin does in this movie
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: is really great. Were you of a p a wrestling fan? Uh?
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: I have a point I'm making. I'm not just asking
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: random questions.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: I was. I was. I watched it a lot in
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: the nineties, but I haven't kept up with it perfect.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: No. So, the wrestler Mick Foley, also known as Mankind,
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: he one time said that his the best piece of
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: advice he had ever given he has ever been given
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: about being a heel wrestler was that the heel should believe,
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: without a shadow of a doubt that they are correct
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: and they are right. So, if you are a bad
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: guy wrestler and you go out and say the sky
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: is red, you need to believe it and sell it
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: so much that people will go outside and check right, okay,
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: And that's what Startha Martin does in this film. He
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: believes what he's doing is just and its right, So
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: that way it helps him from being a one dimensional villain.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and since you get to see basically three different
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: sides with him or sorry of him, with David, with Harry,
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: and then with Christina, you you really get a sense
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: of who he is internally and externally, which I find fascinating.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: I feel. I feel like there's a lot of depth
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: to his character, and honestly, there I could have used
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: a little bit more, but I think how they did
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: it was still very effective.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: He's mad in the in not he's not. He's not
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: like in James Will's Frankenstein the way that doctor Frankenstein
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: is just a fucking lunatic. He's mad in a very
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: different way for being a mad scientist. And I appreciate that.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he to me represents just unchecked scientific ego. He's
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: not mad, He's not madness. He is certainty, and that's
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: what makes him daintererous.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: He's closer to that of Herbert West exactly.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: Him and Herbert West are very similar in the sense
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: that they're right obviously completely different energy. Herbert West is
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: all madness where he you know, I mean he is
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: a little chaotic with his daughter, but other than that
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: with David, he is very calm and collective. He's he's
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: almost like Dexter. He's got these two different sides to
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: him that he can play normal over here but then
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: be cuckoo over here.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And it's also even just like when David and
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: Christina come home at one point, like he joking and
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: he's like, oh, the love birds have returned.
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: He's not against Christina getting close to David because he's like, oh,
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: I don't want you dating my daughter because he knows
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: he's turning them into a snake, and he doesn't want
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: Christina to get.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: Hurt, right, And that's why they have that fight, which
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: is funny because he yeah, because he's not mad that
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: she wants to get involved.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: She I think he likes David. He does like David.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: But I just want to turn you into a snake.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: That's all I want to do. Just come over here,
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: let me inject you with all of this shit and
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: turn you into a snake. So and I feel like
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: it does it? Does? You know? You mentioned doctor Frankenstein
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: a minute ago. I feel like it does slightly have
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: that Frankenstein edge, you know, playing god the the scientific,
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: scientific arrogance and creation without any ethics. But instead of
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: creating life, he's replacing it, switching it. He's you know,
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: he's not obviously not creating something from nothing, He's transforming it.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: I guess would be the better way.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I also think it's interesting too that, like, when
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: this movie's playing out, obviously we knew he's trying to
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: turn David into a snake, right, And originally I thought
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: the whole thought was to turn him into like a
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: snake man, right. I didn't realize until the very end
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: he is like, oh no, you wanted to become a
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: legitimate snake. Yeah, And I was like, what's the point
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: of that?
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And then he has that whole monologue with the
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: King Cobra about how you know you're gonna you know,
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: you've got this partner that's gonna be a little smarter
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: than you. He's a snake but with the mind of
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: a man, and this is just the next evolutionary step.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I thought it was gonna be more in
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: line with the snake humanoid creature we saw at the carnival, which,
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: by the way, I didn't realize it until the second
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: time they showed him. But he's like half missing an arm,
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: he's got like no legs, Like what do we think,
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, failed experiment from doctor Stoner.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's gotta be failed experiment. And then doctor Stoner
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: gave it to the carnival. Yes, And I think that's
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: also why the carnival was so guarded about Christina going
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: to talk to the snake Man.
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: Right, not that I was under the I was. I
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: was suspicious that, oh it was all fake and they
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: just made it up. But then I was thinking about it,
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: and I was like, well, wait, if that was clearly
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: a failed experiment, then they're not gonna want her to
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: go in there and see that thing. But she also
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: calls it Tim like she knows who it is.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's it's Stoner's original assistant that every the
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: cops are looking into.
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: Want to Oh my god, okay, I didn't. I guess
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: I missed the name of him.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: I don't. I think they said the name somewhere. But
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: that's the the when the cops first come to see
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: doctor Stoner, they're looking to see if he had if
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: he had known what happened to Tim, because you know,
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: Stoner was like, oh he had some family emergency. Well
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: we spoke to his family and they haven't seen him.
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I love that the cops. The cops don't find
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: it suspicious at all that Stoner's last assistant just vanished.
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: His aunt hasn't heard from him in a couple of months,
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: No one has seen him at school. The common denominator
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: here Stoner. But they just write it, just completely write
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: that ship off.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: Well, he's you know, he's a kindly old white guy.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: They don't you know, he didn't do anything.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: Of course he did it.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: So he's a man of intelligence Austin.
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly what. He's a in power in a position
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: of power, I guess you could say. So. The transfer
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: may though, was very interesting, very seventies, but it didn't
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: look bad.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: No. If you try to compare it to things that
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: we can do now, you're never going to be happy.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: But I try to contextualize it for the films like
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: of nineteen seventy three.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: Right, we had The Exorcist, a lot of great you know,
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: practical makeup and stuff like that, but a transformation into
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: a snake I mean it, for what we got, it
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: looked pretty dfer.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: If we were trying to do this now, it would
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: be completely CGI, and I'm sure it also wouldn't be
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: very good.
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and if we did this today, a lot of
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: the snakes would be absolutely fake. They would be CGI
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: as well. And the fact that all of those close
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: ups of that King Cobra, like it like struck fear
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: into me.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: I was like, this is it was making me feel something.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: It was making me feel some sort of way.
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, same man, I'm like, this is dangerous. That King
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: Cobra is one of the I think that is the
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: most dangerous snake on earth. And they also had the
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: Black Mamba in there as well. Oh man, I was like,
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: I don't. But also there's those shots.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: And normally when I see snakes in the movie, because like,
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: I don't like snakes, but usually I can if I
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: see them at the zoo. It's one I don't care
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: a movie doesn't. But for some reason, this movie was
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: incredibly getting under my skin in a way that horror
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: films don't usually do. Yeah. Sometimes you know, don't get
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: me wrong. Everyone will jump at jump scares and things
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: like that. You can watch a movie and be like, oh,
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: there's a you know, there's there's some great tension. They're
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: really building, like you can you can appreciate the scares
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: even if they don't fully work on you. But this
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: movie was getting under my skin in a way that
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: I am not too, you know, I can admit that.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: Well. I feel like it's because the horror is gradual
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: and it's also inevitable at the same time, and it feels,
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: I don't know, it almost feels deeply personal. It's not
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: it's not a monster attacking you, it's you becoming a monster,
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: which is, like I said, it just feels so so original.
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying other movies haven't done this, but I
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: really loved how slow they played it because I was
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: never bored, but I was one. I was I was wondering, Okay,
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: when's this gonna kick up? And classic seventies third act,
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: I'm like, Okay, here we go.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: It's all building towards the third act and right it's
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: it's a it's a style of horror filmmaking that I
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: really miss it time. I'm not saying every movie needs
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: to do that, and like, but you know, it feel
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: like if they were to make this movie. Now they'll
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: be like, Okay, we need to have we need to
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: have something every ten minutes or whatever the fucking rule
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: is now or but there was just enough. Like I
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: think all the stuff with the snakes alone was just
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: kind of building things up. And then your big moment
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: before the final act was the carnival sequence.
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that is what really set things off. And when
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: Christina runs out of their drives because she's worried about David,
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: she's like, oh God, that's tim, Uh what about David?
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: And she's like convinced that that's what's been going on
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: with Dave, because David has slowly become he's he's starting
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: to look a little bit different, he's starting to act
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: a little bit different. There's one point where Stoner won't
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: even let Christina see him because his face and his
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: skin has clearly changed.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: And then the clips of them like pulling the skin
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: off was so well done. I think did it with
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: glue or some sort of like like because I remember
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: doing that in elementary school, just rubbing glue in my
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: hand and being like pulling over my skin.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: Oh did the same shit, Yeah, did the same shit.
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: But yeah, it looks so convincing. Like they were really
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: pulling off skin, and he's like, Oh, this will only
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: happen the one time. I'm like, you're shedding your skin
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: like a snake. And I wonder if what he said
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: about that was true, about how like the venom inside
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: of snakes is what causes them to shed their skin.
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: I feel like it might be true. He mentioned something
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: about that.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: Now he said it so convincingly that it was like,
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: I believe it.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: I believe it. Yeah, I mean, I know you're turning
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: this guy into a snake, and your morals are all
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: over the place, but I think I believe you. So
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: let's see where I was. Oh yeah, And honestly, I
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: would kind of. I guess the two movies that I
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: would compare this to the most would be not in
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: terms of like pacing or anything, but just like The
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: Fly or American Werewolf in London, because those are two
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: movies where someone is slowly being transformed into something else.
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: There's so much connective tissue with this and The Fly.
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously the Fly David Cronenberg very much body horror,
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: very grotesque.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: Because the original Fly is not actually, if anything, the
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: original Fly feels more like this movie. Yeah. Uh, but
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: like it almost it feels like the perfect middle nesting
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: ground between The Fly nineteen fifty nine, I want to
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: say it and then David Cronenberg's nineteen eighty six. Six.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: This is like perfectly nestled in the middle where it's
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: like we're transitioning to get to the point that David
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: Cronenberg would get to.
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, obviously this is much more This is a
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: much quieter grounded approach than the Fly, as that one
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: ramps up pretty quickly. But I would I feel like
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: it's very akin to the Fly, as it's another scientist
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: doing experiments, only this time it's you know, on himself,
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: and he accidentally becomes this grotesque creature. Obviously in our
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: movie today it is an intentional transformation on somebody else.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: So Michael Young, Michael would have referred to this movie
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: as labcoat porn. That's what I used to refer to
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: when I was young. I didn't like science fiction movie
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: movies because I just I thought of them all was
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: like the nineteen fifties monster like those type of sci
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: fi movies or people described as people in lab coats
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: doing experiments.
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: Lab coade porno movies tastes definitely change over the years,
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: because trust me, this would have been I would have
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: turned this off so quickly because I had that rule, like,
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: if I'm not.
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: Hooked in the first twenty minutes, I'm turning it off.
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: Dumb way to live. So glad I don't do that anymore.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: But it's a I'm sure you can think of some
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: movies too where it's like there is a a perfect
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: example of a movie called The Passion of Darkly Noon
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: that me and Amanda watched, and through the first more
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: than half of the film, I was like, this movie
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: is terrible. It's one of the worst ones I ever saw.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: By the time it finishes, like I think that's a masterpiece.
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: You're like, how does that? How does that swing happen
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: through the course of one movie?
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: But it does, and it does, and a young hot
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: Brendan Fraser doesn't hurt it.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, I would be sold on that too.
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah okay. So Stoner completed his goal, possibly assuming the
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: cops may be on to him, although I think he
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: was planning to just sacrifice himself at this point. Anyways,
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: David's now a full ass snake, as like they have
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: replaced him with a real living snake wrestling with a mongoose, which,
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: by the way, that looks like a legitimate fight between
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: a I.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: Had wondered that.
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: I was trying to look up because back then they
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: didn't have certifications at the end of the films, whether
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: or not it was it was ASP or no, they
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: didn't have certifications at the end of the film, which,
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: by the way, the credits in this movie Loo quick
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: Okay cartoon they do, so I was like, did they
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: just let a mongoose kill a snake? And by the way,
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: every time the mongoose is on screen, it was like,
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: you're cute as fuck, but you sound annoying and you
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: have giant feet, and I.
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: Knew something like that. I was like, they're not going
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: to keep showing this if something does not happen with
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: this mongoose.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: And then at the end they shot one of the
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: other snakes with a shotgun and that was a hell
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: of an explosion. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I was like,
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna let it bother me too much, but
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: I feel like that mongoose really killed a.
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: Snake, yeah, or fight it and maybe someone broke it up.
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: But I was like, I don't know if I like that,
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: I was not expecting that guy to just shoot the
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: fucking snake, like wow, okay.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: Well, and then they did a beautiful job building because,
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: like you know, I feel like any other movie, like
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: how the hell did he get that shot? But then
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: they had that great little moment of character building at
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: the carnival where it just showed how comfortable that sheriff
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: is with a gun.
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because the other guy couldn't hit the broadside of
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: a bar, and he's like yeah, he's like watch this,
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: bam bam bam.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And it's like there were setups and payoffs in
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: this movie that worked. Like I'm not trying to tell
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: everyone that is a fucking masterpiece, masterpiece, but it is.
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of people on Letterbox went
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: into this with a very specific idea what this movie
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: is gonna be, and just let it they went. I
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: think a lot of people went in thinking this is
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: gonna be a silly movie and they wanted it to
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: be in it and it is in some ways, but
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: I think it's also a much better movie than people
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: credit for.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: I agree. I agree. So then you have the whole
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: wrestling with the mongoose and then a movie ending in
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: my favorite way because it is it's just such a
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: cop out freeze frame of Christine just shouting David's name
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: over and over because she's worried that the no I
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: do too. But it's such a fucking cop out. Yeah cool,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: but it's you know, it leaves it open ended, you know,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: did David survive? Like where does this movie go from here?
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: And by the end of it, but by the time
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: the credits rolled, I was like, you know what, I
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: fucking like this movie. I did not think I would
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: like it as much as I did.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: This is the perfect Well you live in Florida, you
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: can never have the windows open, but this is a
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: perfect you know, late spring, early summer, I have the
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: windows open type of movie.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I I really enjoyed this and want to reach.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: Jam On right now. Looking at that out of print
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: screen Factory Blue ray, I should probably pick that up
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: before it's gone.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: Is it out of print?
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: I thought I saw it was out of print, but
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: it's only fifteen bucks on Amazon.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: I would grab that shit for fifteen bucks. So yeah,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, I definitely recommend this one. This is one
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: of one of the wild cards. I think honestly, all
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: the wild Cards so far this year have actually been
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: pretty good, which.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: Is I will say I went into this movie like
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: I'm not I'm never like want of watch this fucking
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: movie from Boston's podcast, But I was like, all right,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: let's get let's get this movie out the way. And
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: I really enjoyed it.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I've been, like I told Gabby, I was like,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to pick people I wouldn't normally pick for
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: movies this year because I'm just trying something new and
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: it has worked out until last episode with Corey and
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: Frankenstein's army. So my streak is I'm like batting you know,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: point nine nine nine right now. But h yeah, I
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: enjoyed this. Is there anything else that you wanted to
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: mention about this movie before we move on here?
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: Let me take a look. So I do want to
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: touch on the Universal backlots a little bit. Sure, I
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: have got an obsession with the Universal backlots because I
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: feel like they kind of have a very specific vibe
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: and feel, and once you start getting used to the
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: way that the backlots look you, it is very easy
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: to place them. So, for example, this is not gonna
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: be fun for anyone who can't who can't fucking see
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: what I'm hosting. But Austin, I'm gonna send you a
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: photo to Facebook real quick. Yeah, actually I'll text it
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: to you because I got I got my phone stuff
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: pulled up right now, so that I'm sending you a
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: picture of the university from the movie. Okay, and they
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: and the nice thing about the back lots, they can
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: change things, but this is the same square.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, and the same square as Gremlins. Yep,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: that's hilarious. Holy shit.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: So once you start noticing the bat because like obviously
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: it doesn't have the clock tower like it has you know,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: they they get rid of the actual tower part there,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: but like it's the same. I feel like Marty. I
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: think I feel like Marty and his girlfriend sit on
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: that fucking bench in Back to the Future.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: That's amazing.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: Or like the Stoner House unfortunately is no longer there,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: but it's it's like right next door to where the
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: Psycho House is at.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: I was gonna, I was gonna ask because.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: It's right off of Janet Lee Drive. Nice and then
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: even like the waterfall that we saw later on because
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: origin the reason I started digging into this, because it's
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: like that waterfall felt so much like the waterfall from
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: Wayne's World where Cassandra is shooting her music video. It's
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: not that's actually the Potanical gardens in La But this
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: is a a the waterfall in Lake. It's on Falls
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: Lake at the Universal back lot, and a lot of
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: popular movies have been shot there too.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: How funny would it have been if it was the
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: same waterfall because she was holding a giant fucking snake.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: That's what I was hoping for, really fucking hoping for.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: But they used to shoot a lot of Westerns out
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: at Falls Lake, like they shoot Leave It to Beaver there,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: the the they shot the Psycho Swamp there. I find
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: it really fascinating when they are able to do things
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: like this and another, Like I said, if you look
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: at movies that were shot on those back lots, obviously Gremlins,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: a lot of Steven Spielberg's produced stuff shot there.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: Makes sense.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: House of One Thousand Corpuses was shot on this back lot.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: Oh that's right. That was a Universal picture until they
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: disowned it.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: And I think the Firefly House is still on those backlots, amazing,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: Like it's one of those it's one of the houses
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: they can just refab and do whatever or like, you
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: know the neighborhood that The Burbs is said, and that's
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: the Universal Backlots. It's the same neighborhood that they shot
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: Desperate Housewives on.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: Amazing.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: Okay, the monster's house is in that same street. The
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: monster's house is in Desperate Housewives. They just no, no, no,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: they just recolored it.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: Oh shit, Okay, they.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: Just paint these houses when they need to.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: That's fucking amazing.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: So they wanted to give you a little history lessons
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: on the Universal Backlots. You talked about nudity earlier in
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: this film, so there's a there's some primo skinny dipping
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: in this film, but it's really funny. I don't know
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: if it's just the version that I rented from Apple TV,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: so you have to tell me this is if this exists.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: There are added like leaves that cover the nudity.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: Yep, that was in mind. They were so perfectly placed
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: in every shot. I was like, I'm impressed at how
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: good this.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: So it reminds me back when I was a kid
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: and Jamber Tunami on Cartoon Network, so they used to
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: show up with the Dragon Ball and Tenshi Mu yoh,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: there was a lot of nudity in those cartoons.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: Oh shit. And dragon Ball.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: Dragon Ball just showed full blown Goku dong.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: Holy shit. All right, I did not know that.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: But there is a moment where like Goku's laying in
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: the grass and they just show his dong and like
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: they'll awkwardly add underwear on, or they'll have like one
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: flower coming out of the grass and it was just
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: cover him. And that's essentially what they're they're doing the
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: Tunami style censorship.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's hilarious. That is my search history is gonna
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: get real weird here later today because that's hilarious. I
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: did not know that they were that great. I mean,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: I know anime graphic, you know it has nudity, but
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: just swinging swinging dicks. Is that's interesting?
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: Okay, yes, all right, because like the character was a child.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's That's where I'm at with that.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: It's not treated in a fashion. But like they have
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: different rules on on nudity and censorship in Japan, so
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: when it came to the US, they're like, you can't
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: show this on after school television. We got the same
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: thing in dragon Ball, and I found that really funny.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: I We've talked about the drunk snake, we talked about
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: red Brown, I talked about the Tobe hooperness of it all.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: I think that's all my notes.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: And I think that's a perfect segue from swinging dicks
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: to uh, the final cuts. So why don't we roll
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: into that? Sure some good taglines here. Terror is ready
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: to strike. Once this motion picture sinks its fangs into you,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: you'll never be the same for them. There is no escape.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: And my favorite, don't say it, hiss it. That is
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: fucking great.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: It makes this title worth it.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, That's exactly what I said. Uh, So all
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: them in the snakes featured were authentic, and the cast
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: actually did have to interact with them for filming. Only
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: in the shot where Struther Martin grabs the King Cobra's
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: head during the show was a puppet snake actually being used,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: which is very interesting. Yeah, that's true. So the mangous
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: in the movie is actually something called a tar tyra,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: a member of the weasel family native to tropical areas
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  Speaker 3: of Central America and South America. Among the one hundred
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  Speaker 3: snakes used were rattlesnakes, boa constrictors, pythons, king cobras, blue racers,
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  Speaker 3: hog noose snakes, and two headed Florida pine snakes and
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  Speaker 3: this one I don't believe, but I'm gonna say it anyways.
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  Speaker 3: At one point during development, Steven Spielberg was asked to direct,
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  Speaker 3: but turned it down. I don't I don't know, well,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I guess Universal Universal Film. Maybe they really
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  Speaker 3: did ask him.
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  Speaker 2: Well at the time too.
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  Speaker 3: He was a very amateur filmmaker, right, I think he.
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  Speaker 2: Had done some episodes of col He did an episode
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: of Colombo, had to bring that back up again. Duel
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  Speaker 2: had just come out, and that was a TV movie.
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  Speaker 3: Really his biggest one. His biggest first hit was Close
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  Speaker 3: Encounters from seventy seven.
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  Speaker 2: Right, well, his first big hit was Jaws.
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  Speaker 3: Oh dah, Jeezy Pete's that's right, yeah, okay, Jaws and
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  Speaker 3: then close encounts. So this is actually that actually might
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  Speaker 3: be that actually might hold some hold some weight there.
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  Speaker 2: I would not be surprised, Okay, that is I would
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  Speaker 2: not be surprised if that was the case.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, there's a stupid goof here, because it really doesn't
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  Speaker 3: make any sense. It says there's no way Christina would
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  Speaker 3: have known that the cobra was David. Yeah, she really
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  Speaker 3: would have. I don't think this and watch the movie.
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  Speaker 3: So rated five point four out of ten on IMDb
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  Speaker 3: for our purposes of the Nightmare Index, that is a
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  Speaker 3: two point seven out of five, two point eight out
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  Speaker 3: of five on letterboxed, thirty percent on the Tomato Meter,
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  Speaker 3: and a twenty six percent audience score. What did you
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  Speaker 3: give this, Michael?
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  Speaker 2: So? I gave this movie a three point five, which
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  Speaker 2: is pretty much in alignment with my boy Leonard Malton,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: whoa wonder. Maltin uses a four point scale, so I
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: need to mention that. Okay, he gave this movie three
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  Speaker 2: out of four, which, if you do the math is
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: about a is about a three point seven five out
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: of five. Whoa? Oh, Lenny Maltz liked this movie as well.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Well, I also gave it a three point
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: five out of five, which gives us a nightmare index
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  Speaker 3: of a three point one three, and I forgot to
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  Speaker 3: take a picture. I feel like.
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  Speaker 2: That's a much more fair average.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I'm doing the the our nightmare Index. It's
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: not how scary the movie is. I just wanted a
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  Speaker 3: fun name, but I figured we would get.
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  Speaker 2: You are essentially doing what Rotten Tomato. Does you are
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: doing an aggregate?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm doing an aggregate. We're taking a whole bunch
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  Speaker 3: of rate Like, we're taking four different ratings, dividing them
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  Speaker 3: by four and getting an average. I think a three
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  Speaker 3: point one to three is much better than I mean,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: it's not much like it's two point eight, but I
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: still think that's a more fair rating. It needs to
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: be about the three.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, once you've crossed that three, that three average, I
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: think you're on the upswing exactly.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: So similar movies. According to IMDb, we have the Curse
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  Speaker 3: of the Werewolf, Strange Behavior, Kingdom of the Spiders, The
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: Lost World, Oh sorry, king Wait, the Lost World, and
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: then Rats Night of Terror Rats Rats. Similar movies according
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: to Latex actually said that on the last episode, I
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: think so I shouted you out.
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  Speaker 2: It makes me pop every time. Just ramdly throw that out,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: because it's it's it's a it's a it's a deep cut. Yeah,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: it's or podcast agraphy.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's always for you. Similar movies. According to Letterbox,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: we have Tarantula with an exclamation point, Reanimator, KNGA from
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: Beyond A Night of the Lepis. Did you get there
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: was not a lot of funny reviews that were short.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: I think I have like yeah, I have like three
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  Speaker 3: and they're not even that great.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: I have three and a Leonard Malton review.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: Oh, Lenny mo all right, so then hit me with
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: your first one.
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  Speaker 2: I'll start with Leonard Malton.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's start. Let's start. Let's start there.
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  Speaker 2: Which, by the way, if you're not following, there is
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: a page called not Leonard Malton on letterbox which this
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: guy goes through all of Leonard Malton's guides and compiles
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: his reviews.
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  Speaker 3: That's amazing. Love it.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: So letter Moulton, get this withey, three stars, he says,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: well done, horror tale of doctor who finds a way
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: of transforming man into King Kobra. Exceptional job by make
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: up my master John Chambers. So short and sweet, Okay,
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: very nice.
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  Speaker 3: I have a one star from Mason Kaiser, whoever voice
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: acted that mongoose deserves an oscar.
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  Speaker 2: Also, we didn't talk about the weird noises the snakes
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: make in this movie.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if those are actual noises that
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: they make, but they are not. Okay, I don't know
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: enough about King Kobra's and shit, but I don't think
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  Speaker 3: they're making those noises. They were like grunts.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like making like yeah, grunts is a good way
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: to put it. This one comes from Uncle Salem. Gave
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: it two and a half stars and a heart. It's
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: silly as hell, but entertaining as a motherfucker before Tusk
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: there was.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: Oh that's perfect because my next review is from McCool
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: and eighty five two stars and a heart, the prequel
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: to Tusk. Yeah, yeah, I love Tusk, by the way,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: I love it too.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: This next one is by uh guess an upcoming episode
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: the Shameless Picture show, Millie the Jericho Shit. She gave
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: it three stars, most realistic jock ever on film, question.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: Mark one star from Ree's Pieces of Mind. Oh that's fun.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: There are a lot of snakes and a lot of
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: men with their shirts off. That's a very astute observation, alright.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: That last one is from reading this name correctly, Ben
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: gray Yard. I asked my son what he thought of
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: and he said it was stupid. One and a half
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  Speaker 2: stars and heart.
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  Speaker 3: Oh wow, Oh goodness, Michael, where can everybody find you
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: on social media?
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: All right? You guys can find me a letterbox. Aviyers
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: ten two thousand and eight. You can also listen to
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: the saltry sounds of my voice on my podcast of
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: the Shameless Picture Show. Austin is our fearless editor. If
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: you like the way our show sounds, it's all because
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: of this man over here. Give him all the credit
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: in the world. You don't find me on TikTok at
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: Shameless Picture Show, but you know, at this point find
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: me on Instagram, Buyers, Sorry, Michael, Underscore Buyers or Shameless
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: Picture Show. I'm kind of getting sick of TikTok, so
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: I'm putting most of my energy into Instagram. Talk a
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: lot about about aspect ratios, audio and picture quality on movies.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: You know, I was gonna throw it in there because
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: I didn't think you were gonna say it. You talk
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: about aspect ratios on that platform more than more than
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: anybody else. So I had it. I had it ready
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: in case you didn't say it.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's still true, but I'm gonna
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: keep going with it.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just keep going with it. I like it. So
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• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: favorites productions, someone's favorites, someone's favorite productions. They have like
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: thirty podcasts, go through them. It's I can't I don't
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: even want to just pick a few. It's not fair.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: You gotta go through them and comb through them and
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: find the ones.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: No, there's some legitimately good stuff. Yeah, I'm not even
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: saying that as someone who is also on the network.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: It's just I was actually listening to a couple of
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: those shows before I realized, before I put it together,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: they were on that network. It's just yeah, some really
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: good stuff, really good stuff. Oh, there's two podcasts about
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: audio commentaries. I didn't know there was one podcast, but
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: there's two.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: I'd say I didn't know there was one, and now
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: we have two. So next month our theme is Vampirl's Bite,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: where Corey and I will be doing our essential pick
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: Fright Night from nineteen eighty five, which isn't fucking streaming anywhere.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: That seems like a crime.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: I can't crazy, I don't own that movie.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: I own. I recently got the out of print Steel
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: Book for like thirty five bucks.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: I need to get that movie.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So hopefully you own this one, because I am
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: shocked it is not streaming anywhere, but you can rent
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: it on Amazon for three ninety nine. So until next month,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: next week, what have you? Stay tuned and stay spooky.
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