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- 0:00Welcome back to Reformed Thinking.
- 0:01I'm your host and today we are opening up a topic that usually
- 0:06gets people shouting at each other on the Internet.
- 0:08Oh yeah, this is one of those. But we aren't going to shout.
- 0:11We're going to look at the text, look at history and see if we
- 0:14can make sense of it. We're taking a theological and,
- 0:17you know, a practical look at Christian ministry, specifically
- 0:21through the lens of the Reformation.
- 0:23That means high views of Scripture, the Westminster
- 0:26Confession as our guardrails, and the glory of God as the
- 0:29target. Is good to be here and you are
- 0:32right about the noise level on this topic.
- 0:34Today we are tackling the role of women in cross cultural
- 0:37missions. It is a subject that is often
- 0:40misunderstood, sometimes weaponized, but it is just vital
- 0:44for the health of the Church globally.
- 0:46And we are working through some really dense, excellent material
- 0:51from biblical missions, principles, priorities, and
- 0:54practices. We are specifically zooming in
- 0:56on 2 chapters today, one by Betty Price on women's
- 1:00ministries in cross cultural settings and another by Lisa
- 1:04Lajorge asking the very specific question, should we send single
- 1:09female missionaries to the field?
- 1:12And these chapters are so helpful because they move us
- 1:14past the the theoretical arguments we have in comfortable
- 1:19seminary classrooms and drop us right into the dirt and grit of
- 1:23real ministry. Yes, but before we get to the
- 1:25stories, we have some credible stories today.
- 1:28We need to set the theological stage.
- 1:30Let's do it. Yeah, because in our circles in
- 1:32the Reformed world, we don't start with feelings.
- 1:35We start with the Bible. That is the rule.
- 1:38The starting point for any discussion on church life,
- 1:41whether you are in a suburb in America or a village in southern
- 1:44India, is that the Bible is the final authority, right?
- 1:47It is not cultural trends, it is not modern sociology, and it is
- 1:50not even our own personal preference.
- 1:52And that leads us to a specific framework that the source
- 1:55material operates from, which is complementarianism.
- 1:58Now I know that word raises hackles for some people.
- 2:00It really does. It sounds like a way to say
- 2:02second class citizens, so let's unpack that before we go
- 2:05further. We aren't saying men are better
- 2:07than women, right? No, and if anyone hears that,
- 2:09they are hearing it wrong. Complementarianism asserts that
- 2:13men and women are ontologically equal.
- 2:15That's a big word. It is a fancy theological word
- 2:18that means in our very being we both bear the image of God.
- 2:22We are equal in value, equal in dignity, and equal in salvation.
- 2:27There is no junior Holy Spirit for women, OK?
- 2:30However, the position holds that the Bible assigns distinct roles
- 2:34to men and women within the church.
- 2:35In the family. It's about function and design,
- 2:39not value. So the goal of this deep dive
- 2:42isn't to re litigate the entire gender debate of the last 50
- 2:45years. Definitely not.
- 2:47We want to look at how that specific theology plays out when
- 2:50you get on a plane and land in a culture that plays by different
- 2:52rules. How do women exercise their
- 2:55gifts? Is there a biblical
- 2:56justification for sending single women to the ends of the earth?
- 2:59And what happens when our biblical convictions clash with
- 3:02a foreign culture? That is where the rubber meets
- 3:04the road. Because you might have a
- 3:06biblical conviction, but the culture you are entering might
- 3:09have a completely different operating system.
- 3:12Figuring out that puzzle requires wisdom.
- 3:15And that is what Betty Price and Lisa Lajorge are helping us with
- 3:18today. OK, let's start with the
- 3:19biblical mandate. If we are looking for the job
- 3:22description for women's ministry, where do we look?
- 3:25We go to Titus chapter 2, specifically verses 3 through 5.
- 3:29This is the primary text for what we often call women
- 3:33discipling women. I feel like Titus twos become a
- 3:35bit of a marketing term. You see Titus two groups or
- 3:39Titus 2 TS sounds very quaint, very Victorian.
- 3:42It does get branded that way, but when you actually read the
- 3:45text, Paul isn't talking about hosting tea parties.
- 3:49He is writing to Titus, who is organizing the church in Crete.
- 3:52And we need to remember what Crete was like.
- 3:55Oh, it was a rough place. A very rough.
- 3:56Place the phrase to cretanize meant to lie.
- 3:59It was a culture of dishonesty, violence, and gluttony.
- 4:03So when Paul gives instructions here, he is giving a survival
- 4:06guide for holiness in a hostile culture.
- 4:08And he breaks it down by demographic.
- 4:10When he gets to the older women, he gives them a job.
- 4:14They are to instruct the younger women.
- 4:16It is a mentorship model, but look at the qualifications for
- 4:20the mentor. Before they can teach a single
- 4:23thing, they have to be something, OK?
- 4:25Paul says. They must be reverent in their
- 4:27behavior. The source material makes a
- 4:29distinction here at contrast, reverent with silliness or
- 4:32superficiality. Why does that matter so much?
- 4:36Well, think about the context. Yeah, if you were going to
- 4:39mentor a younger woman who is struggling, maybe her marriage
- 4:42is falling apart. Maybe she is overwhelmed with
- 4:44children. Maybe she is doubting her faith.
- 4:46She doesn't need a buddy who is going to giggle and make light
- 4:49of it. No, she needs someone with
- 4:50gravity. Reverend here implies a kind of
- 4:53sacred seriousness. Doesn't mean you can't laugh,
- 4:57but it means you weren't frivolous.
- 4:58You are marked by a sobriety regarding the things of God.
- 5:01Then Paul moves to the tongue. They are not to be malicious
- 5:05gossips. This is huge.
- 5:07I mean, it's absolutely huge. If you are mentoring someone,
- 5:10you are entering the vault. You are going to hear their
- 5:13secrets. You are going to hear about
- 5:15their husband's failures, their own sins, their anxieties.
- 5:18If you are a leak, you disqualify yourself immediately.
- 5:22It destroys trust. It destroys lives.
- 5:24Notice the next one not enslave to much wine.
- 5:27That feels very specific for a church instruction list.
- 5:31It is, but think about the principle.
- 5:33He was talking about coping mechanisms.
- 5:36Life in Crete was hard. Life anywhere is hard.
- 5:40The temptation to numb yourself, whether it is wine or today
- 5:44maybe to social media or shopping or food, is real.
- 5:48Paul is saying you cannot be a spiritual guide if you are
- 5:51numbing yourself. You need clarity of mind.
- 5:53You cannot be controlled by a substance if you were trying to
- 5:56lead someone to be controlled by the Spirit.
- 5:58And finally, they are to be teachers of good things.
- 6:01So that brings us to the curriculum.
- 6:03What are they actually teaching? Because I think we often assume
- 6:05discipleship means we, you know, hang out and chat.
- 6:08Paul actually gives a syllabus and it is intensely practical.
- 6:12He tells the older women to teach the younger women to love
- 6:15their husbands, to love their children, to be sensible, pure
- 6:18workers at home, kind and subject to their own husbands.
- 6:23That list is well, it's a lot. Workers at home and subject to
- 6:28husbands are prizes that get people canceled today.
- 6:31They're countercultural phrases, no question.
- 6:33But we have to look at the why. Paul doesn't just give this list
- 6:36because he likes 1950s gender roles, which didn't exist in the
- 6:401st century anyway. He says do this so that the word
- 6:43of God will not be slandered. That is high stakes.
- 6:45You're saying the reputation of the gospel is on the line.
- 6:48Absolutely. The reputation of the gospel is
- 6:50tied to domestic faithfulness. How a Christian woman loves her
- 6:53family and manages her home is a testimony to the watching world.
- 6:58If the home is chaotic, if love is absent, if the marriage is a
- 7:01war zone, the world looks at the gospel and says it doesn't work.
- 7:06Why would I want that? It grounds the theology in real
- 7:08life. It's not just what you believe,
- 7:10it's how you live in your kitchen.
- 7:11Precisely. Now, the source material brings
- 7:13up a really interesting point about how this instruction
- 7:16happens. We tend to think of discipleship
- 7:19as one-on-one. Yeah, that's the standard model.
- 7:21Me and you coffee shop open bibles, intense eye contact and
- 7:27it is a valid model. But Betty Price points out that
- 7:30Titus 2 doesn't limit us to that.
- 7:33It can happen in intergenerational Bible studies,
- 7:35small groups, or even through reading sound Christian books.
- 7:38The method is flexible. The method is flexible, the
- 7:41mandate is not. OK, so that's the ideal.
- 7:43But now we take this to the mission field.
- 7:45You pack up your Titus 2 theology and you land in Japan.
- 7:48And the source gives us a specific case study from Japan
- 7:51that I found fascinating because it shows how messy this gets.
- 7:54This is a classic example of cross cultural friction.
- 7:58You have a faithful older woman in Japan ready to do Titus 2
- 8:02ministry. She is prepared.
- 8:03She is reverent. But she reported that the local
- 8:06women didn't want to hear. From her They didn't want a
- 8:08woman teaching them. No, they only wanted to listen
- 8:11to the pastor. You have to understand the
- 8:13cultural context of Japan. There is a massive respect for
- 8:17authority for the sensei, the master teacher, and typically
- 8:21that figures male. In that specific context, the
- 8:24idea of peer-to-peer learning among women was seen as less
- 8:28than Why listen to an older woman when you could listen to
- 8:32the professional? So what do you do?
- 8:33Do you force it? Do you say no?
- 8:35The Bible says Titus 2. So you sit down and listen to
- 8:37her. That is the temptation.
- 8:39We want to fix it with a hammer. But the wisdom here, as Price
- 8:43suggests, is patience. The pastor must teach the
- 8:46passage clearly. He must publicly support the
- 8:49Women to Women Ministry. He has to lend his authority to
- 8:52it. Exactly.
- 8:52He needs to say I am the pastor, but I cannot teach you how to be
- 8:56a wife and mother the way she can.
- 8:58But you have to wait for the church to mature.
- 9:01You can't bulldoze cultural norms overnight, even if you are
- 9:04biblically correct. You have to shepherd the people
- 9:07into valuing what scripture values.
- 9:09That's a tough balance. It's the difference between
- 9:11being right and being effective. You have to play the long game.
- 9:14You do? Yeah, absolutely do.
- 9:15Let's move to another biblical text that frames this First
- 9:19Timothy 3. This is usually where we go for
- 9:21elder and Deacon qualifications. Right.
- 9:23And in verse 11, Paul writes, women must likewise be
- 9:27dignified. Now we have to pause here
- 9:29because there is a massive debate among translators about
- 9:33the Greek word gynecas. Because it can mean women or
- 9:37wives. Correct.
- 9:38It's the same word. So some translations say wives,
- 9:41meaning the wives of the deacons.
- 9:43Others say women, implying female deacons or deaconess.
- 9:47And I'm guessing the source material doesn't solve that
- 9:49debate for us today. It doesn't try to, and that's
- 9:52wise. The point the author makes is
- 9:54that practically for our purpose of defining character, it
- 9:57doesn't matter how. So whether these are female
- 9:59deacons or the wives of leaders, the character requirements are
- 10:02identical. If a woman is going to be in
- 10:04leadership or discipleship, she must meet these standards.
- 10:07And the standards look very similar to Titus.
- 10:09Dignified, temperate, faithful in all things.
- 10:13Dignified means worthy of respect.
- 10:15Temperate is that same idea of level headedness and faithful in
- 10:19all things speaks to trustworthiness.
- 10:21I want to circle back to the speech issue.
- 10:23Though we talked about malicious gossip and Titus in First
- 10:27Timothy. It emphasizes not being a gossip
- 10:30again, and the source gives us another case study, this time
- 10:33from Central Europe. And this one made me cringe
- 10:36because I could see myself making this mistake.
- 10:39This one resonates with anyone who has travelled.
- 10:42You have a missionary wife in Central Europe.
- 10:44She comes from a culture, probably American, where we tend
- 10:47to soften our blows, right? We value being nice.
- 10:51We value privacy. You don't air our dirty laundry
- 10:54at all. She lands in a culture of blunt
- 10:57speech. If people disagree, they say it
- 11:00immediately to your face. And to her, that felt like an
- 11:02attack. Exactly.
- 11:04She felt it was a lack of love, but there was another layer in
- 11:07that culture. Information was public property.
- 11:10The concept of privacy was very different.
- 11:12So the story goes that she shared a personal prayer request
- 11:15with one woman. Yes, something deeply personal.
- 11:19Maybe a struggle with her husband or a health issue.
- 11:21She whispers it to a friend, assuming confidentiality.
- 11:24And the next. Day.
- 11:25The next day, the entire church knows people are coming up to
- 11:27her asking about it. Oh, that is a nightmare.
- 11:30I would feel so betrayed. I would feel like you people are
- 11:34gossips. You are sinning against me.
- 11:36And that was her reaction. She viewed it as malicious
- 11:39gossip in the tightest sense, but the local woman viewed it as
- 11:43news. Just information.
- 11:44Or mobilizing prayer. In her mind she was helping.
- 11:48She has a problem. So I told the body so we can
- 11:50pray. So how do you handle that?
- 11:52Is it sin or is it culture? That is the $1,000,000 question
- 11:55In missions. The lesson for the missionary
- 11:57was realizing that the intent wasn't malicious.
- 12:00It wasn't intended to harm, It was a cultural norm of
- 12:03information sharing. OK.
- 12:05However, scripture does call us to discretion.
- 12:08Colossians 4.6 says our speech should be seasoned with salt.
- 12:11So the missionary had to accept the culture's bluntness as not
- 12:15sin while slowly teaching the biblical value of
- 12:18confidentiality and discretion. That takes so much humility to
- 12:22not just scream you're wrong, but to say OK, this is how you
- 12:25operate, but let's look at what protects relationships best.
- 12:28It requires realizing that your cultural definition of polite is
- 12:33not the biblical standard, but the biblical standard of
- 12:36trustworthy must be maintained. Speaking of relationships, let's
- 12:40talk about when they break down. The outline brings us to
- 12:43Philippians four and two women with great names, Euodia and
- 12:48Sinchek. These are two women in the
- 12:50church at Philippi, and notice how Paul describes him.
- 12:53He calls them fellow workers. He says they struggled alongside
- 12:57him in the gospel. These aren't casual attendees
- 13:00who show up once a month. These are heavy hitters in the
- 13:02ministry. They are in the trenches.
- 13:04They had a problem. They were fighting we don't know
- 13:06what. Maybe it was theology, maybe it
- 13:08was methodology, maybe they just annoyed each other.
- 13:10Could be anything. But it was bad enough that Paul,
- 13:13in a letter that would be read to the entire church and
- 13:16eventually the entire world for 2000 years, calls them out by
- 13:19name. By name, he tells them to think
- 13:22the same way in the Lord. That is a public call out.
- 13:25Imagine sitting in church. The letter from the Apostle Paul
- 13:28arrives. Everyone has excited and
- 13:29suddenly he says Susan and Karen stop fighting.
- 13:32It implies that their personal dispute was affecting the
- 13:35harmony of the whole church. It was becoming a cancer.
- 13:39Betty Price shares a story in the text that illustrates this
- 13:42perfectly. She was at a Women's Ministry
- 13:44luncheon. Yes, she was the guest speaker
- 13:47and she gets invited to the leadership meeting before the
- 13:49event. There are six women there and
- 13:52the pastor and. That seemed odd to her.
- 13:54Right. Usually the pastor has other
- 13:56things to do than sit in the women's planning meeting.
- 13:58So she asks, does the pastor have something to share?
- 14:02Thinking maybe he has a devotional or an announcement.
- 14:05And the response. The pastor's wife looks down at
- 14:07the table completely embarrassed and says no, he has to be here
- 14:11because two of these women can't get along and if he isn't here
- 14:14to referee, they will fight. That is tragic.
- 14:17It's pitiful. Here you have a man called to
- 14:20preach the Word and shepherd the souls of the flock, and he's
- 14:23reduced to being a babysitter because two grown Christian
- 14:26women cannot resolve their conflict.
- 14:28It shows that character, specifically being temperate, is
- 14:31a qualification for leadership. If you cannot resolve conflict,
- 14:35you become a liability to the ministry.
- 14:37The lesson is that leaders must be self controlled and
- 14:41persuadable. Unresolved conflict hinders
- 14:45ministry. It stops the work.
- 14:47And in a cross cultural setting, the opportunities for
- 14:50misunderstanding are multiplied by 1000.
- 14:53Exactly. You are dealing with language
- 14:55barriers, different conflict styles, different expectations
- 14:58of leadership. If you don't have a heart for
- 15:00harmony, for thinking the same way in the Lord, you will blow
- 15:03up the ministry. You will spend all your energy
- 15:06fighting your teammates instead of fighting the darkness.
- 15:08So we've talked about character, we've talked about conflict.
- 15:11Now we need to define the boundaries.
- 15:13We said at the top we are complementarian.
- 15:15The source material is very clear about what women cannot
- 15:17do. And we need to be precise here,
- 15:20because this is where the accusations usually fly, right?
- 15:23We need to look at the lines. According to the source and
- 15:26based on First Timothy 2, the office of elder or pastor is
- 15:30reserved for men. What are the distinct
- 15:32responsibilities of that office? Because sometimes we think
- 15:34ministry equals pastor. That's a great point.
- 15:38The office of Elder is characterized by two main
- 15:40things. Doctrinal teaching for the
- 15:43gathered church and exercising authority over the congregation.
- 15:47OK, so teaching and authority. That is the line, the oversight
- 15:50of the flock and the authoritative preaching of the
- 15:52word. Now the egalitarian argument,
- 15:55the view that women can hold any office, often argues that Paul
- 16:00was writing to a specific culture where women were
- 16:02uneducated. They say Paul restricted women
- 16:05because they didn't know anything yet.
- 16:06They were uneducated in the 1st century.
- 16:08But now women have pH DS, they are CEO's, so the restriction is
- 16:12lifted. It is a common argument, but the
- 16:14source material rebuts that directly.
- 16:17It points out that Paul doesn't ground his argument in the
- 16:20education levels of the 1st century.
- 16:22He grounds it in creation. He points back to Adam and Eve.
- 16:25It's a theological argument, not a sociological 1.
- 16:27Correct. The argument is that God's
- 16:29design for men and women has not changed, regardless of whether
- 16:33we are in a patriarchal society, a feminist society, or anything
- 16:36in between. It is an argument from order,
- 16:39not from competence. But, and this is a big but, that
- 16:42doesn't mean women sit on the sidelines.
- 16:44I think sometimes people hear no elders and they translate that
- 16:48to no ministry. Which is a tragedy, a complete
- 16:51tragedy. The scope of women's ministry is
- 16:53massive. Well.
- 16:54What does the source say is open?
- 16:55The source Less Roles explicitly open to women.
- 16:58Director of women's ministries. Director of children's
- 17:01ministries. Missionaries both single and
- 17:04married. OK, humanitarian roles like
- 17:06nursing and teaching, administration, theology,
- 17:09writing, the list goes on and on.
- 17:11And there is a clarification on submission here that I think is
- 17:14helpful because again, the caricature is that in
- 17:16complementarianism every woman has to do what every man says.
- 17:20That is, a distortion is a straw man.
- 17:22Complementarianism does not mean all women submit to all men.
- 17:25A woman submits to her own. Husband.
- 17:27Her own husband, yes. And like all believers, men
- 17:30included, she submits to the church leadership, the elders.
- 17:34Hebrews 13.17 commands all of us to submit to our leaders.
- 17:38So a single female missionary isn't walking around submitting
- 17:41to every male she meets. She isn't subservient to the guy
- 17:44at the grocery store. No, of course not.
- 17:47She is under the authority of her ascending church and the
- 17:50field leadership, just like the guys are.
- 17:53It is about order in the church and the home, not a universal
- 17:57hierarchy of gender. To prove the point that women
- 18:00aren't sidelined, the source material gives us a list of
- 18:03witnesses. This is a rapid fire tour of the
- 18:06New Testament and it is impressive.
- 18:08It is. It shows that the early church
- 18:10was powered by women. You have Dorcas.
- 18:12She was the compassion ministry expert, making garments for the
- 18:16poor. When she died, the widows stood
- 18:18around weeping and showing Peter the clothes she made.
- 18:20That is a legacy of love for sure.
- 18:22You have Anna. She is in the temple, fasting
- 18:25and praying. She's a prophetess.
- 18:28She's the one who proclaims the Messiah to Jerusalem.
- 18:30She was an evangelist before the apostles were a servant or
- 18:34deaconess of the church at Sencre.
- 18:36Most scholars believe she was the one entrusted to carry the
- 18:39letter of Romans to Rome. Imagine that responsibility
- 18:43carrying the most theologically dense document in human history
- 18:46in your bag, walking the dangerous roads to Rome.
- 18:49Paul trusted her with his masterpiece.
- 18:51Then you have Priscilla. I love Priscilla.
- 18:54She and her husband Aquila are a power couple.
- 18:56They're tent makers. They risk their necks for Paul.
- 18:59But the key moment is with Apollos.
- 19:02Apollos is this eloquent preacher.
- 19:04He is on fire, but his theology is incomplete.
- 19:07He only knows the baptism of John.
- 19:10So what happens? Does Priscilla stand up in the
- 19:12synagogue and shout you're wrong?
- 19:14No, that would violate the principle of authority and
- 19:17order. Instead, she and Aquila take him
- 19:19aside privately, and they correct him.
- 19:22They explain to him the way of God more accurately.
- 19:24That is such a crucial distinction.
- 19:26She possessed the theological knowledge, she used it.
- 19:29She corrected a male preacher, but she did it in a setting that
- 19:33honored the structure of the church.
- 19:34Exactly. Then you have the hospitality
- 19:36crew. Mary, Martha, Lydia, Nympha
- 19:39hosting churches in their homes. You have the Samaritan woman at
- 19:42the well. She becomes an evangelist to her
- 19:43her entire town. And the women in Luke 8 who
- 19:46bankrolled Jesus's ministry. So the biblical record is clear.
- 19:50Women are essential active and gifted.
- 19:52They are not passive observers. Which leads us to the
- 19:55second-half of our deep dive. The specific question Should we
- 19:59send single female missionaries to the field?
- 20:03Apparently some churches hesitate on this.
- 20:05They do. They worry about safety.
- 20:07They worry about the lack of a husband's protection.
- 20:09They worry about role confusion. If she goes out there alone, who
- 20:13is she accountable to? Will she try to become a pastor
- 20:16because there are no men? But the source gives a
- 20:19definitive answer. The answer is yes.
- 20:22A resounding yes. And the theological rationale is
- 20:24twofold. First Galatians 3.
- 20:27Women are Co heirs of the gospel.
- 20:29They have the Holy Spirit, They have spiritual gifts.
- 20:32To bench them is to bench half of God's army.
- 20:35And secondly, the singleness advantage.
- 20:37This comes from Jesus in Matthew 19 and Paul in First Corinthians
- 20:407. We often view singleness as a
- 20:42waiting room for marriage. We think, oh poor thing, she
- 20:45hasn't found anyone yet. But the Bible views it as a
- 20:48strategic advantage. A single person has undivided
- 20:51devotion if they are less distracted by the cares of the
- 20:54world, meaning the necessary cares of a spouse and children.
- 20:57If you are married, you have to care about your spouse.
- 20:59That is your duty. If you have kids, you have to
- 21:02protect them. Exactly.
- 21:03But if you are single, you could run into the fire.
- 21:06You can take risks a mother cannot take, and history proves
- 21:10this. The source gives us three
- 21:12historical case studies that are just giants of the faith.
- 21:15OK, we need to talk about Amy Carmichael.
- 21:18The AMA of India. Her story is wild.
- 21:22Amy Carmichael went to southern India in the late 1800s and she
- 21:27saw something that broke her heart.
- 21:29She noticed that little girls were disappearing.
- 21:31She found out they were being married to the gods.
- 21:34Which is a euphemism. A terrible one.
- 21:36It was religious slavery, temple prostitution.
- 21:39These children were being sold to the temples to be used by the
- 21:42priests and the worshippers. It was horrific abuse sanctioned
- 21:46by the religion and the culture. And as a single woman, she could
- 21:49do something about it. She began rescuing them and we
- 21:51weren't talking about filing paperwork.
- 21:53She was basically kidnapping them back.
- 21:55Really. She would dye her skin with dark
- 21:57coffee to blend in with the locals.
- 21:59She would go near the temples. She would risk her life to
- 22:01snatch a child away. Imagine the adrenaline A
- 22:04solitary Irish woman in a sari stealing a child from a powerful
- 22:09religious system. She became a mother, Emma, to
- 22:12hundreds of these children. She built a community called
- 22:15Donover. It wasn't just an orphanage, it
- 22:18was a sanctuary. She created a family.
- 22:21And because she was single, she could stay.
- 22:23She served for 55 years without a furlough.
- 22:26She never went back to Ireland. That is unimaginable stamina.
- 22:30And she couldn't have done it if she had to worry about a
- 22:31husband's career or educating her own biological children in a
- 22:35Western school system. Her singleness was her strength,
- 22:39she wrote. Can we follow the Savior far who
- 22:41have no wound or scar? She understood that suffering
- 22:44was part of the deal. Then we have Lilius Trotter.
- 22:47This is a story I didn't know as well, but it is equally
- 22:49powerful. Lilius was a Victorian heiress,
- 22:52she was wealthy and she was a brilliantly gifted painter.
- 22:55John Ruskin, the most famous art critic of the 19th century, saw
- 22:58her work. Wow.
- 23:00He told her she could be one of the greatest living artists if
- 23:02she devoted herself to it. She offered to make her famous.
- 23:05She had the world at her feet. Fame, Fortune.
- 23:08Comfort. And she walked away from it.
- 23:10All of it. All of it she felt the call of
- 23:13God to the Muslim world. She went to Algeria, North
- 23:17Africa, a very hard place, a place where women were often
- 23:20invisible. What was her ministry like?
- 23:23It was a ministry of presence and hospitality.
- 23:25She opened a wayside home for travellers.
- 23:27But she didn't abandoned her art, she redeemed it.
- 23:30She wrote in illustrated gospel tracts that were beautiful.
- 23:34That's amazing. She realized that beauty was a
- 23:36bridge to the Arab heart. She was engaging the culture on
- 23:40a deep level. She studied the Sufi Mystics.
- 23:43She learned their language, their poetry.
- 23:45She wrote the seven I am Statements of Jesus to connect
- 23:48with the Muslim understanding of God.
- 23:50She mobilized dozens of workers to a region that was incredibly
- 23:53resistant. She died there.
- 23:56She gave up a legacy in the art galleries of London for a legacy
- 23:59in the Kingdom of Heaven. And finally, Mary Niemeyer, this
- 24:02one made me smile because it's just so physical.
- 24:04Mary Niemeyer served among the Navajo, the dying people in
- 24:07Arizona and New Mexico. She started at age 21.
- 24:11She served for over 65 years. 65 years.
- 24:14The description of her ministries just so active.
- 24:18She's doing home visits on horseback, riding through the
- 24:21desert canyons to find isolated families.
- 24:24But the detail I love is the basketball.
- 24:26She played basketball. She played basketball with the
- 24:28young women for 50 years. 50 years, So we're talking about a
- 24:3270 year old woman boxing out teenagers in the paint.
- 24:35Essentially, yes, and apparently she was good.
- 24:38She used sports to build relationships.
- 24:40But here is the kicker when her knees finally gave out and she
- 24:44couldn't jump anymore. Don't tell me she retired.
- 24:47She switched to rollerblading. No way.
- 24:49Yes, in her 70s on a reservation.
- 24:51That is a level of commitment and maybe a little insanity that
- 24:54you have to admire. But look at the impact.
- 24:57She is credited with helping preserve the Navajo language.
- 25:00She helped translate the scripture.
- 25:02She didn't just bring the gospel.
- 25:03She honored the culture. She loved the people.
- 25:06She became one of them. These women, Amy, Lilius, Mary,
- 25:10what's the common thread besides the fact that they were forces
- 25:13of nature? The common legacy is that they
- 25:15died on the field. They didn't pack up and retire
- 25:18to a condo in Florida when it got hard.
- 25:20They were buried in the soil they served.
- 25:22They were surrounded by local believers who called the mother
- 25:25or sister. And crucially, they paved the
- 25:29way for pastors. They didn't try to be the
- 25:31pastor. This is a key distinction a
- 25:33huge. One they did the evangelism, the
- 25:35discipleship, the hard, groundbreaking work so that
- 25:39churches could form and local men could eventually step up to
- 25:42lead. That brings us to today.
- 25:44The world has changed. We aren't necessarily riding
- 25:47horses in New Mexico anymore or snatching kids from temples,
- 25:50though human trafficking is still a huge issue.
- 25:53How does this look in the modern world?
- 25:55The principles are the same, but the avenues have expanded.
- 25:58We see the tent maker model. This is using a secular degree
- 26:02to get into a country that doesn't allow missionaries.
- 26:05Because you can't just get a missionary visa for Saudi Arabia
- 26:07or China. Exactly, but you can get a visa
- 26:10if you were a teacher. Tehsil teaching English is huge.
- 26:14Nursing is another one. A registered nurse can get into
- 26:17a village in the Middle East or Asia that a pastor could never
- 26:20enter. That's right.
- 26:21She can touch bodies, heal wounds, and speak the gospel in
- 26:25the process. She has access to the women's
- 26:27quarters that a male missionary will never see.
- 26:30The source mentions a really interesting example of a woman
- 26:34with a doctorate in biblical counseling.
- 26:35Yes, she serves as an associate Dean at a seminary in the Middle
- 26:39East. Now, some might ask, is she
- 26:41teaching men? Is that violating the First
- 26:44Timothy rule? Right.
- 26:45That's the question that comes up.
- 26:46But her specific role is training the women's students
- 26:49who will return to their home countries to do women's
- 26:52ministry. She is equipping the equipers.
- 26:55It's strategic. It is highly strategic.
- 26:57We have examples of orphan care in Asia.
- 26:59We have a story from Africa about a missionary wife who
- 27:02realized the church service was 3 hours long and there was
- 27:05nothing for the kids. Three hours.
- 27:06The kids were running wild or sleeping, so she started a
- 27:09children's Sunday school. Which sounds simple.
- 27:11But it was revolutionary. It allowed the parents to
- 27:13actually listen to the sermon, and it catechized the next
- 27:16generation. She wasn't preaching the sermon,
- 27:19but she was making the sermon effective.
- 27:21It seems like the goal is always the same.
- 27:24Support the church. That is the bottom line.
- 27:27Women's ministry is not a competition with men's ministry.
- 27:30It's not about power. It supports the elders.
- 27:33It facilitates the growth of the bada.
- 27:35It allows the pastors to focus on their primary calling, prayer
- 27:38and the ministry of the Word while ensuring that the women
- 27:41and children are being discipled effectively.
- 27:43So as we wrap this up, we have to look at the big picture.
- 27:47We have this rich history. We have this clear biblical
- 27:50mandate. We have the example of Amy
- 27:52Carmichael, who probably did more for the Kingdom than most
- 27:55of us combined. We do, and we have a challenge.
- 27:57Philip De Corsi has a quote. Join the endless line of women
- 28:00parading across the Bible. Now you go, girl.
- 28:04It's a bit colloquial, but the point stands.
- 28:06The point is vital. We in the reform camp love our
- 28:10structure, We love our order, we love our theology.
- 28:14And that is good. Order is good.
- 28:16But we must be careful that in our love for order, we do not
- 28:20inadvertently stifle the Amy Carmichael's of tomorrow.
- 28:24That is a provocative thought. Are we creating a culture where
- 28:27a young woman with a fire for the nation's feels like she has
- 28:30no place to run because she hears no more than she hears go?
- 28:34We need to be actively deploying them.
- 28:36They are powerful weapons for the gospel.
- 28:38We need to encourage them, train them, and send them fully
- 28:41supported, fully valued and fully clear on their mission.
- 28:45If I have a pastor, I should be looking for the single women in
- 28:47my church who have that gift and saying how can we get you to the
- 28:51field? Not you can't be an elder or so
- 28:53sit down. So if you are listening and you
- 28:55are that woman, or you are pastor who shepherds those
- 28:58women, the field is white for harvest.
- 29:00And the laborers, both men and women, are few.
- 29:04That's all for this deep dive into Reformed thinking.
- 29:06We hope this challenges you to look at the women in your church
- 29:09not just as members, but as vital partners in the Great
- 29:11Commission. Thanks for listening.
- 29:13Goodbye.