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The End of Oak Street : Eight Crocodiles Got Upstairs Somehow · High n' Dry Podcast

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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the dinosaur movie.
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SPEAKER_01: Pop Patrol.
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SPEAKER_01: I remember Rocket Power uh and Butterfinger BBs.
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SPEAKER_01: Are they related?
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
0:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
0:28
SPEAKER_01: I actually have like several crates of Butterfinger BBs.
0:33
SPEAKER_01: And uh they've gone they've gone bad long ago.
0:35
SPEAKER_01: But I just hold I'm just holding on to them.
0:38
SPEAKER_01: No.
0:39
SPEAKER_01: Death and oh yeah, people do crazy shit.
0:43
SPEAKER_01: They they're like a hundred years in the future, people will pay all kinds of money for my moldy packet of Butterfinger BB.
0:54
SPEAKER_01: To be fair, I did have a shit ton of beanie babies.
0:58
SPEAKER_01: Uh my mu I wasn't spending the money.
1:01
SPEAKER_01: That was that was a crazy mom thing.
1:06
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:07
SPEAKER_01: It's the same concept.
1:09
SPEAKER_01: Uh the bat ones were cool because they had the velcro, yeah, and you put them around your forearm, yeah.
1:15
SPEAKER_01: You put them you put them around your dick.
1:18
SPEAKER_01: But it's been it's been many years since I've been able to fit them around my dick.
1:38
SPEAKER_01: I was just thinking about the podcast.
1:40
SPEAKER_01: Well, it'd be Rocket Butter Babies.
1:53
SPEAKER_01: Today I've got a delightful cold brew coffee that Sarah picked up that I don't know the name of.
1:58
SPEAKER_01: Uh, and I have added uh a little bit of ube liqueur to it.
2:04
SPEAKER_01: Uh so ube liqueur iced coffee.
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SPEAKER_03: Yes, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Follow your uh I've been talking about this with my therapists lately, about following your, you know, the things that provide you least resistance when you uh when you try to tackle them.
2:32
SPEAKER_01: Like if they're if they're sick and burned out of acting and they're fucking traumatized by it, and they were like, you know what?
2:37
SPEAKER_01: I'm actually really excited about distilling alcohol.
2:40
SPEAKER_01: Like I could go through the whole process of like setting up a distillery and it like doesn't bother me to like do that.
2:46
SPEAKER_01: Fucking power to these guys.
2:48
SPEAKER_01: And you said it's good, right?
2:50
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
2:52
SPEAKER_01: Mm.
2:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's awesome.
2:59
SPEAKER_01: That sounds like Texas.
3:05
SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's good.
3:09
SPEAKER_01: Oh, good.
3:10
SPEAKER_01: That might be a real real person from Clifton, New Jersey.
3:13
SPEAKER_01: Hey, Clifton.
3:14
SPEAKER_01: It's Pune.
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SPEAKER_03: From India, yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Cheers.
3:28
SPEAKER_01: That's good.
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SPEAKER_01: Brothers Bond out here doing good work.
3:33
SPEAKER_01: Oh, accu you you're doing acupuncture.
3:37
SPEAKER_01: Oh, interesting.
3:40
SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
3:41
SPEAKER_01: Let me know how that works.
3:44
SPEAKER_01: I'm personally an accu as an extreme acupuncture skeptic, but I know that you've been suffering, and so you're willing to try like anything.
3:57
SPEAKER_01: And and you know, here's the thing that I, you know, when I see these trajectories like this, it's been like a year since you got it.
4:03
SPEAKER_01: And so, and so, you know, over time it like I know that there's a chance that the the prod the protein inside your body goes down, the alpha gal goes down.
4:13
SPEAKER_01: And so I'm sure for a lot of uh and when I see pseudoscience or or science that's unexplainable, like like uh like acupuncture, you know, there's like this trajectory of the protein going down, and then someone introduces like a a a pseudo or holistic medicine or pseudoscience or something, and they're like, it cured it, and it's like ah poof motherfucker.
4:35
SPEAKER_01: I just gotta be like, you're my friend, and I love you, and I'm not gonna I'm not gonna argue with you.
4:44
SPEAKER_03: Uh-huh.
4:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
4:48
SPEAKER_03: It might that's the thing though.
4:50
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
4:55
SPEAKER_01: That'd be cool.
4:57
SPEAKER_01: If you went in and it like went from, you know, whatever level you're at to like zero because of the needles, that that is essentially that's like proof of magic.
5:05
SPEAKER_01: That's like magic.
5:07
SPEAKER_01: There's magic in the world.
5:11
SPEAKER_01: Whoa.
5:19
SPEAKER_01: Doctor Strange just lays his enemies down.
5:22
SPEAKER_01: All right, you're gonna feel a bench.
5:26
SPEAKER_03: Defeated.
5:30
SPEAKER_03: I don't maybe I don't need to be a villain.
5:38
SPEAKER_03: Right.
5:44
SPEAKER_01: I know we're getting off track, but there is a push to like undermine medicine.
5:53
SPEAKER_01: Like there, yeah, there's there's an extreme push to undermine medicine, and part of undermining medicine is like including pseudoscientific medicine in the in the scope of insurance because it's cheaper.
6:07
SPEAKER_01: And so people will hand their money to non-medical professionals and then say, well, medicine doesn't work.
6:13
SPEAKER_01: And and then it just it it erodes faith in medicine, and that'll that that allows different angles for grifts to enter for the people to extract wealth in different ways.
6:27
SPEAKER_01: And I just want to make that clear that that's a thing that is systemically happening for sure.
6:31
SPEAKER_01: People it's planned, it's it's not just a thing that it's planned.
6:37
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, that's right.
6:38
SPEAKER_01: We have we're doing a podcast.
6:39
SPEAKER_01: I remember now.
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SPEAKER_01: Cheers.
6:43
SPEAKER_01: Good thing we killed all those wind farm projects uh right as our president started a war with the oil producers.
6:55
SPEAKER_01: Let him cook.
7:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
7:02
SPEAKER_01: Good.
7:03
SPEAKER_01: I feel it trickling down all over me, man.
7:10
SPEAKER_01: Mmm, salty.
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SPEAKER_01: Cheers.
7:15
SPEAKER_01: It's good.
7:16
SPEAKER_01: It's good.
7:16
SPEAKER_01: I actually uh probably should have put more in it.
7:19
SPEAKER_01: I did a test earlier in the week to make sure I wouldn't that it was an okay uh uh amount uh of oh geez, I put choreography in there instead of cinematography.
7:30
SPEAKER_01: Hold on.
7:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, maybe it's the perfect amount.
7:37
SPEAKER_01: I've been had I had Sarah make it for like my test run so I wouldn't uh you know be off my ass or like have a negative medication reaction.
7:47
SPEAKER_01: It's good though.
7:47
SPEAKER_01: I like it.
7:48
SPEAKER_01: It it was a real weird one.
7:50
SPEAKER_01: Uh I want to hear how you describe it.
7:53
SPEAKER_01: I wanted to go back to a time before cell phones.
7:56
SPEAKER_01: Because cell phones kind of fuck everything up.
8:11
SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
8:13
SPEAKER_01: A giant pile of shit appears in the in the neighbor's backyard.
8:19
SPEAKER_01: That he blames, that he blames our nuclear family for.
8:23
SPEAKER_01: That we somehow they somehow got all that shit and dumped it in his yard.
8:34
SPEAKER_03: The past.
8:39
SPEAKER_01: I do want to say that uh the they they they talk to a librarian and they clock it at 200 million years ago, which I think is the uh Triassic period.
8:54
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna double check.
8:57
SPEAKER_01: It is Jurassic, you're right.
9:07
SPEAKER_00: PG 13.
9:09
SPEAKER_00: I'm pretty sure.
9:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
9:12
SPEAKER_01: Double checking.
9:14
SPEAKER_01: Uh, sure, yeah, yeah.
9:15
SPEAKER_01: I liked your uh I liked your summary.
9:18
SPEAKER_01: Uh and we can get into the deeper, you know, well, I'm sure we'll get more into the points when we talk about the golden path and the acting and everything.
9:25
SPEAKER_01: I'll go ahead and go through my scores.
9:27
SPEAKER_01: So acting first.
9:30
SPEAKER_01: I think that I think that the acting was for the most part okay.
9:41
SPEAKER_01: I some of the child actors were not great.
9:46
SPEAKER_01: I would say that I'd say that most of them were very middling.
9:51
SPEAKER_01: It was middling to not to not great.
9:54
SPEAKER_01: I thought that Anne Hathaway was uh I you know Anne Hathaway, has she ever been a Scream Queen before?
10:05
SPEAKER_01: Is this her first like horror movie?
10:07
SPEAKER_01: Uh I mean the Odyssey is a it's a good opportunity for her to do it.
10:13
SPEAKER_01: I don't think this one was ever in the running for an Academy Award.
10:19
SPEAKER_01: Like, who knows?
10:20
SPEAKER_01: Weapons got an Oscar.
10:22
SPEAKER_01: I I'll be an end of Oak Street, you know.
10:25
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, that makes sense.
10:29
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
10:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I felt I feel like uh I feel like she did she did a pretty good job with this one.
10:35
SPEAKER_01: There are times when she's like unbearable, like but that's what she's playing, you know.
10:41
SPEAKER_01: She's playing it like that for a reason.
10:43
SPEAKER_01: You're supposed to you're supposed to be like, God, that's like an that's like ogre-ish.
10:47
SPEAKER_01: She's like, she's like a a a bitch.
10:51
SPEAKER_01: And and yeah, she does it really well.
10:54
SPEAKER_01: And then she does being afraid very well.
10:57
SPEAKER_01: Her facial expressions on being afraid are very good.
11:00
SPEAKER_01: Some people can't play afraid.
11:01
SPEAKER_01: Uh, and I think I think I think Obi-Wan does not a great job of being afraid at most times.
11:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, I always have to be afraid of her.
11:12
SPEAKER_01: You're right.
11:13
SPEAKER_01: Uh uh, well, getting eaten is is one thing to be afraid of.
11:17
SPEAKER_01: He wasn't afraid enough.
11:19
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
11:21
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
11:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
11:22
SPEAKER_01: If they get him, he becomes the shit in his neighbor's yard that pisses his neighbor off, and everything is the everything's right in the universe.
11:29
SPEAKER_01: But uh, I feel like I feel like you know this movie was mostly about Anne Hathaway, and I feel like she she had the she had the star acting, she had the acting power to back up her role as the lead.
11:44
SPEAKER_01: And and yeah, I think she did well.
11:46
SPEAKER_01: So uh for this one I'm gonna give it a 3.5.
11:49
SPEAKER_01: I didn't think it was anything amazing, but it was good enough, and uh, I wasn't like taken out by the acting.
11:58
SPEAKER_01: Actually, you know what?
11:59
SPEAKER_01: I was taken out by the acting by the children several times.
12:01
SPEAKER_01: Three.
12:02
SPEAKER_01: Uh those fucking kids, those kids sucked for the most part.
12:07
SPEAKER_01: Uh cinematography.
12:11
SPEAKER_01: Uh so I enjoyed uh in cinematography, we CGI is part of our cinematography, right?
12:19
SPEAKER_01: Like I felt like the dinosaurs were pretty good.
12:23
SPEAKER_01: Um, I felt like they did some interesting things.
12:26
SPEAKER_01: I I enjoyed that they didn't do the Jurassic Park thundering T-Rex footsteps thing for the large dinosaurs, because that would not have happened.
12:40
SPEAKER_01: You know, sure they're big and they're heavy, but if we just look at modern day elephants or anything like that, they have padded feet.
12:49
SPEAKER_01: Unless there's like a stampede, you're not gonna feel it on the ground just from one thing moving, you know, even if it's gigantic.
12:58
SPEAKER_01: Uh, and so I really liked that they they kind of had a this is the same director as It Follows.
13:05
SPEAKER_01: And yeah, yeah, for real, for real.
13:08
SPEAKER_01: And and they did have kind of an It Follows shot with the Allosaurus where everyone's standing around outside, which by the way, everyone standing around outside having conversations was like a big gripe I have with this movie.
13:21
SPEAKER_01: They had they had so many conversations outside, and I was like, fucking go inside.
13:27
SPEAKER_01: Did you guys forget that there's like dinosaurs everywhere?
13:29
SPEAKER_01: You fucking idiots.
13:31
SPEAKER_01: I I really that really bothered me.
13:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
13:39
SPEAKER_01: I was like, I I threw my hands up in the theater probably like five or six times.
13:45
SPEAKER_01: Like if I was I literally like my hands were like, what?
13:49
SPEAKER_01: It relied a lot on really stupid being really stupid.
13:52
SPEAKER_01: But that cut that's in the plot area.
13:54
SPEAKER_01: I'll I'll remember that.
13:55
SPEAKER_01: Just remember that for the plot area.
13:57
SPEAKER_01: Uh, but the cinematography, I thought that they did a good if it follows shot with the Allosaurus sneaking up on them essentially.
14:03
SPEAKER_01: Uh, and we just see we just see them talking, and then one of them looks like and then everybody everybody runs.
14:10
SPEAKER_01: I I enjoyed the stuff like that.
14:12
SPEAKER_01: Now there was one thing that uh there was one thing that kept happening in the movie.
14:21
SPEAKER_01: They the the director kept using diopter lenses.
14:25
SPEAKER_01: Are you familiar with diopters?
14:27
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so a diopter lens is a lens that has two levels of focus in it.
14:33
SPEAKER_01: It's like side by side, it has a uh like a near focus and a far focus.
14:38
SPEAKER_01: And it was the scenes where they were sitting down as like a family, and like Anne Hathaway would be off to one side and a kid would be in the background, and you'd see them both clear, you know, clearly.
14:51
SPEAKER_01: And and they use it's like a special lens for that.
14:55
SPEAKER_01: And I I don't understand what uh I don't understand uh uh why they did it.
15:10
SPEAKER_01: It's like a special it's a special technique, and usually it's about like it's about like showing like the distance between things or the closeness between things or or like bridging a gap.
15:20
SPEAKER_01: And it didn't it didn't I don't know I don't know it was real weird uh so so there were some there were some choices that did that weren't obvious to me on what exactly was happening and why that didn't have that didn't have the plot points to back up what the camera was telling me and so for that I'm only gonna give it a uh 3.5.
15:45
SPEAKER_01: I thought this I thought the um I thought the CGI was good, but the rest of the cinematography was either just kind of like bland or or or not amazing or or or odd or confusing is what I mean.
16:02
SPEAKER_01: The score, uh I like I like some 80s tunes.
16:06
SPEAKER_01: Uh I'm not against 80s tunes, and nothing felt out of place.
16:11
SPEAKER_01: I felt like the uh I felt like the sc the the musical score for the movie, like the instrumental, was good for this.
16:18
SPEAKER_01: Like I felt I remember the instrumental like picking up during parts and swelling and being uh being really good for like heart pumping.
16:27
SPEAKER_01: Uh I actually made note that it was good.
16:30
SPEAKER_01: Uh, and so I'm gonna go ahead and give it a four for score.
16:33
SPEAKER_01: It's not anything I'm gonna be humming, you know.
16:36
SPEAKER_01: Uh uh plot, this is where this is where my gripes come in.
16:41
SPEAKER_01: Uh there were some plot problems.
16:45
SPEAKER_01: I the the movie seemed to at the beginning, I I really liked the first 20 minutes of the movie.
16:51
SPEAKER_01: And I and it's kind of divisive.
16:54
SPEAKER_01: I've read that other people online may not necessarily like the first 20 minutes of the movie, and they're just like, just get to the fucking dinosaurs.
17:01
SPEAKER_01: And it's like, okay, sure.
17:04
SPEAKER_01: If you're like just get to the fucking dinosaurs, I can understand why you wouldn't like the first 20 minutes.
17:08
SPEAKER_01: And me, I was like, I with the first 20 minutes, I was like, oh, I'm actually into it.
17:13
SPEAKER_01: I feel like they're setting up some interesting things and setting up some analogies and setting up some similes, and I'd like to see how they pay them off, you know?
17:22
SPEAKER_01: Uh, but they didn't.
17:24
SPEAKER_01: And in the end, it left me feeling like, oh, well, you could have just cut that shit out.
17:28
SPEAKER_01: I actually would have liked, I would, I would have preferred if they paid off more of that, but I can definitely understand why some people were upset.
17:37
SPEAKER_01: Um, and we'll talk about those analogies and symbolism and stuff in the next part on where I saw the setups and I saw the really loose connections.
17:45
SPEAKER_01: I felt like the dialogue in this movie was bad for the most part.
17:50
SPEAKER_01: I felt like the dialogue was incoherent sometimes.
17:59
SPEAKER_01: Do you do you believe in God?
18:03
SPEAKER_01: It's like, uh yes.
18:10
SPEAKER_01: Where the fuck did that come from?
18:12
SPEAKER_01: We haven't had anything.
18:16
SPEAKER_01: Uh and then, but but yeah, just in general, the dialogue, the dialogue wasn't particularly impactful or memorable, and uh there were several like plot points that don't really match up.
18:32
SPEAKER_01: Like uh calling and ordering the pizza, the dad would have been home by then already, if I remember right.
18:40
SPEAKER_01: Like the day the dad, like the day they disappeared, like dad came home and he was home when the oh wait, no, no, no.
18:47
SPEAKER_01: He came home really late, didn't he?
18:49
SPEAKER_01: He came home after it already, after the neighborhood already disappeared.
18:53
SPEAKER_01: Okay, never mind, never mind.
18:54
SPEAKER_01: That doesn't that's not wrong.
18:55
SPEAKER_01: But all of the crocodiles showing up on the second floor of that mansion at the end, that doesn't make any fucking sense.
19:02
SPEAKER_01: There must have been a fucking wormhole that took them from the river to the second floor of that mansion where there's no water or or food source or anything like there's one dude that one was snacking on.
19:14
SPEAKER_01: That's not gonna be that's not eight crocodiles worth of food to climb upstairs.
19:20
SPEAKER_01: Uh uh but there were just things the the the questions that I was left asking at the end were about mechanics and not about philosophy, you know, and that's the problem is if you if you're if your movie leaves people with questions about wait, why did that happen?
19:39
SPEAKER_01: That is not the right questions.
19:42
SPEAKER_01: It's good to be left with questions, but the questions are about like, what is the meaning of life?
19:45
SPEAKER_01: Like, our character, like what are the decisions that I make, and what does it mean to be a human and what does it mean to have relationships?
19:53
SPEAKER_01: Like, those are the good questions.
19:56
SPEAKER_01: How did how did uh eight crocodiles get upstairs is not the question?
20:06
SPEAKER_01: But I did like that they re they kind of flipped the script on the person who feels like abandoning their family.
20:13
SPEAKER_01: Um, usually a guy, usually a guy having a midlife crisis who's like, I feel like I'm I feel unfulfilled and like I want to get away from my family and like dreaming about it and escaping.
20:25
SPEAKER_01: They flipped the script, and it's not it's it's pretty rare that it's the woman in that role.
20:31
SPEAKER_01: So, and I found that interesting.
20:32
SPEAKER_01: So I'm gonna give this a uh two uh for plot.
20:39
SPEAKER_01: Uh rewatchability, you know, it's really funny that after you know, not a lot of great scores, I'll probably watch this again.
20:46
SPEAKER_01: I'll probably watch it again because I feel like they uh I was really it was really fun to see like dangerous dinosaurs, dinosaurs that were like are like moving and surviving in groups and like a little natural, a little almost like a gate, like a like a natural habitat, whereas like in the Jurassic Park movies and stuff, they're like in pens and there's like their world has been curated, they've been revived and curated for us, and so they're like sparse, but in this one they're not sparse, they're fucking everywhere, and it's it's their world.
21:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and you know, I think I think for a lot of people that that doesn't that might not ring true to them, but I think that a lot of people don't go to places where there's mostly animals, like where there aren't a lot of people.
21:35
SPEAKER_01: Well, guess what?
21:36
SPEAKER_01: There's animals fucking everywhere.
21:37
SPEAKER_01: Like that's that's the thing.
21:39
SPEAKER_01: If if humans weren't around, yeah, there'd be a lot more animals.
21:42
SPEAKER_01: There'd be a lot more animals around.
21:45
SPEAKER_01: But uh, but yeah, that was it was fun to watch that.
21:49
SPEAKER_01: And uh I what I'm really looking forward to is the R-rated director's cut that I'm sure will be coming out at some point, where we have like all of the cut scenes with all of the dialogue that pays off all of the first 20 minutes and like makes the makes the do you believe in God line make sense?
22:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, loses his pants certainly.
22:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I look forward to that.
22:16
SPEAKER_01: So rewatchability, I'll give it a uh uh I'll give it a three.
22:22
SPEAKER_01: So my score comes down to three.
22:25
SPEAKER_01: Three point one, drowned down to three.
22:45
SPEAKER_01: It's a vegesaurus.
22:54
SPEAKER_01: You know what's funny is that I've seen you know, some there's a lot of animals that you even in our current world that are herbivores but are like uh opportunistic scavengers or something.
23:05
SPEAKER_01: Have you ever seen a video of that deer eating a bird?
23:09
SPEAKER_01: That was wild.
23:11
SPEAKER_01: And so yeah, just a bronosaurus being like, this thing won't go away.
23:16
SPEAKER_01: Or I guess an apatosaurus cry to cry.
23:27
SPEAKER_00: I'm here for it.
23:30
SPEAKER_03: Damn it.
23:32
SPEAKER_03: I'm not gonna live it down.
23:34
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I can delete it in the chat.
23:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
23:43
SPEAKER_01: With the spiders.
23:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
23:46
SPEAKER_03: And now spiders everywhere.
23:53
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
23:56
SPEAKER_01: That show that shit was so funny.
23:58
SPEAKER_01: I laughed so hard.
24:00
SPEAKER_01: I was like, there's no I knew it.
24:02
SPEAKER_01: I knew it.
24:03
SPEAKER_01: I was like, there's no way that kid's gonna make it in.
24:05
SPEAKER_01: I was actually thinking that the kid was going to in that like there was the tree right behind the portal that like had been cut, like I thought he was gonna get impaled.
24:14
SPEAKER_01: I was hoping.
24:23
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
24:24
SPEAKER_00: I can't remember anymore.
24:42
SPEAKER_03: This is our midi section.
24:45
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
24:49
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
24:51
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
24:56
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's it's terrifying.
24:58
SPEAKER_01: Like they animals are not slashers.
25:04
SPEAKER_01: That's the thing, is is animals want to survive.
25:07
SPEAKER_01: An animal getting hurt in the wild is a death sentence.
25:11
SPEAKER_01: They don't have they don't have antibiotics, they don't that they they are the if they can't move, they don't get to lay up on on a bed while someone else feeds them.
25:21
SPEAKER_01: It's a fucking death sentence.
25:23
SPEAKER_01: And so if you hurt an animal, it's not gonna keep attacking you, it's gonna run away.
25:28
SPEAKER_01: That's why, that's why uh that's why that's why you'll see like animals like I I don't know if you've ever seen videos of of like uh a big cat attacking a porcupine.
25:39
SPEAKER_01: Like they they get the they get shit in their face and they're like, nope, never mind.
25:43
SPEAKER_01: They're like, I I fucked up.
25:45
SPEAKER_01: I fucked up, I didn't do it right, I'm gone.
25:48
SPEAKER_01: I'm not continuing to try.
25:51
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
25:54
SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
25:56
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
25:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
26:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
26:01
SPEAKER_01: Or they're at least gonna stop and think about things, and they're not unthinking.
26:05
SPEAKER_01: In fact, theropods, if if there's there's conjecture that theropods could have been tool using, could have been smart enough to understand tools.
26:15
SPEAKER_01: The size of their brains compared to the size of their skull.
26:17
SPEAKER_01: Theropods, by the way, are like the feathered, like the Allosaurus and the feathered dinosaur that was really common, those eating people in this movie.
26:24
SPEAKER_01: Uh there, there's there is definitely conjecture that theropods' brain size is is enough that they could have been tool using or or and and complex problem-solving creatures.
26:39
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
26:51
SPEAKER_01: Right.
26:52
SPEAKER_01: That's a very funny point you make, is they had to make the dinosaurs dumber to make because the people weren't being smart.
26:59
SPEAKER_01: So they were like, hold on, we can't make the dinosaurs smarter than the people.
27:02
SPEAKER_01: People are gonna think that's unbelievable.
27:04
SPEAKER_01: Let's make the let's make the dinosaurs even dumber than the people we've made dumber.
27:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, lead.
27:15
SPEAKER_01: Lead's in the pipes.
27:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
27:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, guys.
27:22
SPEAKER_01: Let's walk through the neighborhood yelling.
27:27
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
27:29
SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's three that's a re that it's a good time as a rewatchability thing, not a plot thing.
27:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
27:38
SPEAKER_01: A trauma bonded.
27:40
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
27:42
SPEAKER_01: It's okay to be generous, or you could, or you could be harsh, or you're everything you're feeling is valid.
27:49
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
27:51
SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
27:55
SPEAKER_03: Right.
27:58
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
28:00
SPEAKER_01: Alright.
28:01
SPEAKER_01: I have a feeling that's gonna come back really similar.
28:04
SPEAKER_01: So so before, with just my scores, the average was 3.1.
28:09
SPEAKER_01: Now the average is 3.05.
28:16
SPEAKER_01: So so that rounds down very little to a three.
28:22
SPEAKER_01: We disagreed quite a bit last week.
28:25
SPEAKER_01: We don't have to disagree every week, you know.
28:27
SPEAKER_01: We sometimes, some, sometimes, you know, there a movie is just so uh, you know, what it's trying to convey, it is clear in how it's conveyed, whether that's good or bad.
28:38
SPEAKER_01: We got we got the message, and we we took the same thing from it, you know.
28:47
SPEAKER_01: Sure, sure.
28:49
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
28:53
SPEAKER_01: That that one I was just in, it was just it got me in a right space.
28:57
SPEAKER_01: I actually there was a Reddit thread where it was like, what movie were you surprised that you cried at?
29:01
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, I was actually surprised that I cried at the brand new Spider-Man because I fucking uh because it just happened to hit me.
29:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, where it's like he he's going through this thing where he's like overcoming his isolation and his trauma, and like he's learning not to blame himself for the things he's done in the past and that you can only move forward, and it's like it hit me so hard, and I just I cried and I liked it.
29:29
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, point zero five was the difference.
29:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's a watchable movie.
29:37
SPEAKER_01: It's it's not it's not gonna blow your mind.
29:40
SPEAKER_01: It's watchable.
29:42
SPEAKER_01: As someone who as someone who really loved dinosaurs, like I like spent a lot of my youth like learning about dinosaurs.
29:50
SPEAKER_01: Like I thought for like 10 years of my life, I was like, I'm gonna go into paleontology.
29:56
SPEAKER_01: Like that's how much I loved dinosaurs.
29:58
SPEAKER_01: I looked at fossils, not just dinosaurs, like I looked at their fossils a lot.
30:03
SPEAKER_01: And and this movie got a lot of things wrong about that that I picked up on, and it kind of bothered me a little bit.
30:11
SPEAKER_01: But uh, but I can I I can understand the why that wouldn't bother everybody.
30:16
SPEAKER_01: Uh, and so I kind of I tried to distance myself from that feeling.
30:20
SPEAKER_01: At least they gave them feathers.
30:23
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
30:25
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
30:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it just it seemed like that, yeah.
30:33
SPEAKER_01: That movie just had no heart.
30:37
SPEAKER_01: Just that that's the scene.
30:38
SPEAKER_01: That's like, you know, it's fun.
30:40
SPEAKER_01: That's like the Hunger Games when she runs in the first hunger games, where it's like, nope, I can't watch this fucking movie.
30:45
SPEAKER_01: For you, it's that keyboard.
30:52
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
30:58
SPEAKER_01: Psycho killer.
31:06
SPEAKER_01: You know what?
31:06
SPEAKER_01: Actually, I think this movie should get a four point five after talking about Psycho Killer.
31:16
SPEAKER_00: Jurassic World.
31:17
SPEAKER_01: Jurassic World something.
31:19
SPEAKER_01: Cheers they all have.
31:28
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I got some stuff.
31:29
SPEAKER_01: I had some I got more things.
31:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but you go, you go first.
31:37
SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
31:55
SPEAKER_00: It's a failure to communicate, exactly.
32:03
SPEAKER_01: That was that was honestly hilarious.
32:05
SPEAKER_01: We're just like, I gotta go.
32:07
SPEAKER_01: She's like, no, but you said you can do this.
32:09
SPEAKER_01: He's like, I gotta go.
32:13
SPEAKER_01: That was really fucking funny.
32:17
SPEAKER_01: It was.
32:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you're kind of just like, what the fuck just happened?
32:20
SPEAKER_01: Is he going to cheat on her or what's what's going on?
32:26
SPEAKER_01: She went to go, she went to go, she went to go talk in the shade of a tree.
32:31
SPEAKER_01: Could you could you not fucking walk away from your obligation?
32:34
SPEAKER_01: What the hell's going on?
32:38
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
32:41
SPEAKER_01: Right.
32:42
SPEAKER_01: It was the 80s.
32:43
SPEAKER_01: Nobody had the information we have now.
32:45
SPEAKER_01: That's humanity.
32:47
SPEAKER_01: It's the it's the thing about being reparative.
32:50
SPEAKER_01: You know, people are gonna keep making mistakes, but it's the repair portion that's the most important.
32:56
SPEAKER_01: And once you learn to repair, it's it mistakes don't mean as much.
33:01
SPEAKER_01: You know, mistakes are mistakes are easier to cope with once you learn to repair with the people who feel injured and yourself.
33:08
SPEAKER_01: And humanity is always gonna continue to make mistakes.
33:11
SPEAKER_01: We're never gonna be perfect, we're always gonna be imperfect, and that's what makes human stories real.
33:17
SPEAKER_01: You know, uh stories about perfect people aren't interesting.
33:21
SPEAKER_01: Uh, but uh but they they failed to repair until until trauma bonding.
33:33
SPEAKER_01: And I have things to say about well, yeah, like and and that's a metaphor that they're setting up, like this rift in their relationship.
33:41
SPEAKER_01: It's like it's like when when you're not communicating and there's like a fail a failure to understand each other, and the tension builds and builds and builds, it feels like the world is ending.
33:55
SPEAKER_01: It it it it feels like if not only does it feel like the world is ending, but it also feels like you're trapped in the past, and there's no and there's no way forward.
34:07
SPEAKER_01: So those are two kinds of analogies that just by the nature of the movie, I made connections.
34:12
SPEAKER_01: I felt like they could have been stronger connections, like there wasn't enough payoff where they like approach that or or yeah, yeah, yeah.
34:25
SPEAKER_01: We didn't see if they did any work, circumstance.
34:29
SPEAKER_01: No, no, what we really need is trauma.
34:32
SPEAKER_01: If is if we can just start like a world war or something where everyone is in trauma and crisis immediately, then then then our problems just kind of drift away because we've got brand new problems.
34:46
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
34:49
SPEAKER_01: Are there kids?
34:50
SPEAKER_01: I think their kids are Gen X.
34:52
SPEAKER_01: Their kids are Gen X, they are boomers.
34:57
SPEAKER_01: Great.
34:58
SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's kind of what we're heading for again.
35:00
SPEAKER_01: That's kind of how that's kind of it is it's being it's a little bit cyclical.
35:06
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
35:09
SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
35:15
SPEAKER_01: I know I've never seen that, but that's very funny because legitimately the Nazis like used uh our kind of like the Nazis used uh our the way we handled Native Americans with like reservations and and camps.
35:34
SPEAKER_01: That's what they did.
35:35
SPEAKER_01: That's the inspiration they used for the camps for Jews.
35:39
SPEAKER_01: And our uh our the way uh Ford did it his assembly line is how the Nazis used the Jews for their assembly lines to create tools of war.
35:51
SPEAKER_01: It's like they looked at us and they were like, guys, you fucking killed it.
35:54
SPEAKER_01: You guys, you guys really rocking it, and uh god damn it.
36:07
SPEAKER_01: Because the movie, the movie, it's uh so art reflects life, reflects art, you know.
36:21
SPEAKER_01: You know, and and I think that's interesting that you bring that up because a lot of people will say, Yeah, why don't you be stupid?
36:28
SPEAKER_01: Like ignorance is bliss.
36:29
SPEAKER_01: There's a lot of people who truly believe ignorance is bliss, but it's like, yeah, it it ignor ignorance is bliss, but like there's a but in it.
36:41
SPEAKER_01: Ignorance is bliss, but that bliss will end when reality that you've been ignorant of is is unable to be ignored anymore.
36:54
SPEAKER_01: Like reality will come to your front door whether you are ignorant or not.
37:06
SPEAKER_01: We're gonna shit ourselves to death because because our brain worm in chief of the CDC is gonna God damn it.
37:19
SPEAKER_03: Fuck.
37:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
37:26
SPEAKER_01: There are movies that tackle these things.
37:28
SPEAKER_01: I think it's really important because audiences are going to view movies through the lens of their times.
37:34
SPEAKER_01: It's what happens when we look back at older movies and and we view it through the lens of our times and we interpret it in different ways.
37:40
SPEAKER_01: That's the way art has always been.
37:42
SPEAKER_01: People will people look back on Botticelli art and are like, whoa, this is what this says to me.
37:48
SPEAKER_01: And it's like Botticelli never fucking intended that shit.
37:51
SPEAKER_01: But but you see it now because that's that's the that's how humanity works.
37:57
SPEAKER_01: It's a brilliant thing about humanity, not a fault in it, that we see things through uh that that as we progress, our lens, humanity's lens, changes.
38:07
SPEAKER_01: And so we're always gonna see these movies through our lens.
38:09
SPEAKER_01: And it's important for directors and stuff to to to understand their audience's lens.
38:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I understand.
38:18
SPEAKER_01: I hear you.
38:21
SPEAKER_01: It was a really bad thing you did.
38:23
SPEAKER_01: I just trust Spider-Man.
38:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
38:27
SPEAKER_01: He's like he's like Elon Musk.
38:29
SPEAKER_01: I just trust him.
38:30
SPEAKER_01: He do he.
38:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
38:35
SPEAKER_01: What's he gonna do?
38:38
SPEAKER_01: Figure out how to give us all ketamine like Elon Musk?
38:45
SPEAKER_00: Uh, that's a really good question.
38:48
SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, if you want to go first.
38:55
SPEAKER_00: That's if any of anyone around you screams, you just smack them.
38:59
SPEAKER_00: Stop screaming.
39:02
SPEAKER_01: You're gonna fucking kill us.
39:04
SPEAKER_01: If we get attacked by dinosaurs, I'm gonna shoot you in the leg, and you're gonna be dinosaur food.
39:13
SPEAKER_01: In fact, they went back in time so they didn't have to do anything different.
39:18
SPEAKER_01: They they time traveled in order not to change anything.
39:35
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, there you go.
39:37
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if the library made it.
39:39
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if the library I don't know if it was in their neighborhood.
39:42
SPEAKER_01: But the librarian is in the neighborhood and she seemed to know things.
39:46
SPEAKER_01: She seemed to be a smart person.
39:54
SPEAKER_01: You know what?
39:55
SPEAKER_01: I think you would have found something smart.
39:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think you would have found a way that didn't waste a bullet to create a loud enough noise to scare dinosaurs away.
40:04
SPEAKER_01: You would have, you would have by that time figured out something else.
40:07
SPEAKER_01: Just two pieces of wood, like those clappers that they make when you're really like when you're really young and just like whack, and it sounds like thunder.
40:15
SPEAKER_01: Predators hate, yeah.
40:18
SPEAKER_01: Right.
40:19
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
40:20
SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
40:22
SPEAKER_00: Getting high ground.
40:24
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
40:26
SPEAKER_01: It's giving you purpose to be to be in the 200 million years ago.
40:39
SPEAKER_01: You trip and break your neck on a log.
40:47
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
40:48
SPEAKER_01: Oh, you can do flintstones.
40:49
SPEAKER_01: You can do flintstones, you can make flintstones.
40:59
SPEAKER_01: Fed to the dinosaur.
41:01
SPEAKER_01: You just had time.
41:03
SPEAKER_01: You you you make a you create a religion where you sacrifice to the great dinosaurs for protection and you tie them to a tree and then an allosaurus or spinosaurus or whatever comes and eats him.
41:19
SPEAKER_03: Nice.
41:25
SPEAKER_00: Chrome Cromagnon?
41:32
SPEAKER_01: No, actually the well for a while they'll they'll argue about it, and then whatever year that neighborhood disappeared, they'll f they'll suddenly learn.
41:45
SPEAKER_03: Invest in Apple.
41:50
SPEAKER_01: There's like merrh people who have invested through shell corporations and Apple.
41:58
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
42:02
SPEAKER_01: Hmm.
42:03
SPEAKER_01: Perfect.
42:05
SPEAKER_01: They they pluck you out of the neighborhood before it disappears, and then you have all the yeah, they have all you have all the benefits of two 200 million years of evolution.
42:27
SPEAKER_01: No notes.
42:31
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, for me.
42:32
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
42:33
SPEAKER_01: So definitely if I was um if I was my age or younger, and you know what, I would be, I would probably be one of the older teens, you know, maybe out of high school uh teenage.
42:47
SPEAKER_01: Uh, and I would definitely have weed in the 80s, for sure.
42:52
SPEAKER_01: I would have weed.
42:53
SPEAKER_01: And I would I would definitely end up uh I would not be yelling in the streets when dinosaurs showed up.
43:03
SPEAKER_01: I would notice Ann Hathaway and Ewan McGregor walking, uh you know, walking with their gun and some baseball bat or whatever at the time, and I'd get in with them real early before they barricade the house.
43:16
SPEAKER_01: And then when it was time, you know, when they're like, okay, we'll all you know sleep and we'll all sleep downstairs together.
43:21
SPEAKER_01: It's like, no, no, no.
43:22
SPEAKER_01: Send the kids, send the send the kids upstairs.
43:24
SPEAKER_01: It's okay.
43:25
SPEAKER_01: It's the higher ground is better.
43:26
SPEAKER_01: We you we'll stay down here and defend everything.
43:31
SPEAKER_01: And then uh, and then of course, I was like, oh god, you know what?
43:34
SPEAKER_01: It might be a good idea, you know.
43:36
SPEAKER_01: Alcohol's bad for you, you and McGregor.
43:37
SPEAKER_01: You know what's good for you?
43:38
SPEAKER_01: Weed.
43:40
SPEAKER_01: It's from the earth.
43:41
SPEAKER_01: It's uh it'll all help us chill out.
43:44
SPEAKER_01: And then of course we we we all fuck.
43:53
SPEAKER_01: I get some of uh I I get you know, it's just it's me and you and McGregor, Eiffel Towering, uh Ann Hathaway, and it's just damn kiss, damn, stairs kiss.
44:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, that's cool.
44:08
SPEAKER_01: I'm cool with that too.
44:09
SPEAKER_01: He's a pretty guy.
44:11
SPEAKER_01: He walks in.
44:14
SPEAKER_01: No, no, no, hold on.
44:15
SPEAKER_01: Go back, go back outside, cut a hole in the bottom of the box.
44:19
SPEAKER_01: We gotta do this the right way.
44:22
SPEAKER_01: Go upstairs.
44:24
SPEAKER_01: Put your headphones on.
44:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we totally fuck.
44:28
SPEAKER_01: And then uh I assume somewhere around pterodactyl time, uh, I get eaten.
44:35
SPEAKER_01: And uh and and then and then and then after I get eaten, the pterodactyl looks all high.
44:41
SPEAKER_01: Like you like after after like an hour, you see you come back, you see the pterodactyl like leaning back on like one arm, just kind of like it's kind of like looking up.
44:54
SPEAKER_01: It's like, whoa.
44:56
SPEAKER_01: Something's up with that hippie.
45:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
45:01
SPEAKER_01: This place fucking sucks.
45:05
SPEAKER_01: Thanks.
45:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
45:10
SPEAKER_01: There's some good kids, some good death scenes.
45:12
SPEAKER_01: We didn't talk about it, but a lot some people get munched on.
45:15
SPEAKER_01: Some people get munched on.
45:16
SPEAKER_01: It's good.
45:17
SPEAKER_01: The R the R raid director's guy's gonna be better.
45:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
45:28
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I munch on it.
45:31
SPEAKER_03: Cheers.
45:35
SPEAKER_03: Bye.