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menu in the episode show notes, whether here on YouTube or whichever podcasting app
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and or platform we are listening to this show on. In this episode of
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Disguise Coverage, pretty straightforward, going to be diving into Buffalo Bills off season
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priorities detailing multiple things that need to get taken care of for this team from
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a roster perspective this offseason, how it can be done, some of the
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hows and whys in addition to the what's It's gonna be pretty straightforward on this
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episode as we are full steam ahead. Oh what's up? J r.
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J? Jumping in the chat hair Orgie, how are you doing? Full
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steam ahead into the off season. A couple of weeks ago set the table
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after the Bill's disappointing watch of the Kansas City Chiefs and the divisional round kind
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of set the table for the off season with the you know where the Buffalo
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Bills go from here? Episode? And then last week went to do one,
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not went to do and wanted to do one, but just with being
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at the Senior Bowl and then coming back from mobile and life and everything happening,
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didn't did some film room pieces where we broke down multiple aspects of the
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Senior Bowl. So if you have not checked those episodes out, you should
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on the film room playlist under the cover one brand. But yeah, back
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here in disguise coverage and yeah, full speed ahead on with the off season.
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Senior Bowl happened last week a lot of moving and shaking in that regard,
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this episode won't be two Senior Bowl focused. But for anybody who does
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have any questions, thoughts, comments, concerns in the live chat or if
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you're watching on YouTube later, question thought, common concern feel free to put
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it up into the comments on YouTube on this episode and I'll circle back.
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But for those of you riding with me live here on this episode, any
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questions, thoughts, commons, concerns, anything Senior Bowl related, feel for
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your throat up into the chat and I'll answer it as we go forward.
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As I spent a good chunk of the week last week here at the Senior
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Bowl, prepping for it, taking a look at stuff coming out of it.
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But yeah, once the Senior Bowl goes down, Super Bowl happens this
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week, and then it's even more full steam ahead when it comes to anything
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and everything. With the offseason. We've got the combine at the end of
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February going into the beginning of March. Free agency starts March thirteenth, so
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we'll get that tampering on that Monday, March eleventh. Before you know it.
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I said it last year after the Bills you know, started their regular
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season, where it just felt like the day before they lost to the Bengals,
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before we know it. With how fast the offseason moves, you know,
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we're sitting here and again waiting for the Super Bowl to happen. Before
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you know it, the draft will be here, and then it'll be rookie
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OTAs, and then it'll be training camp, and then it's the preseason.
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Before you know it, you're already looking at playoff games and it's January twenty
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twenty five. So the season kind of always sneaks up on everybody. And
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with that being said, again ahead when it comes to this offseason piece here
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on Disguise Coverage and in this episode, like I said, off season Priorities
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List, I talked about several of these pieces two weeks ago with Kendl Mursky
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on the most recent episode of Disguise Coverage. This this is a team off
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season for the Buffalo Bills where that Josh Allen contract, that Josh Allen money
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is starting to kick in, and as such, you start to have to
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not do kind of cap gymnastics, but you have to start being very efficient
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with how you spend your money and how you address needs on the roster.
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Just for those who don't know. Josh Allen's cap hit this year again comes
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with the territory whining of a franchise quarterback. Josh Allen's cap hit this year
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is forty seven million dollars. There's no way in hell that he gets cut.
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But fun fact, he has a dead cap hit of ninety nine million
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dollars this year, which is wild. And then the cap hits increase next
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year as well, fifty six point five million, and then down to fifty
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two million, forty f and forty one, rounding it out in twenty twenty
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eight. But when you pay that franchise quarterback, you start to you know,
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and this is this is the tale as old as time. You know,
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We've seen multiple teams go through it. When you pay that guy.
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Once you pay that franchise quarterback, you have to be lean and efficient with
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how you address other needs. You are usually strapped financially if you have another
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type of franchise player on your team aside from a quarterback, like if you
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have Patrick Mahomes and you also have Chris Jones for instance with the Kins City
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Chiefs. If you've got multiple franchise guys, then it becomes even harder to
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kind of finagle through things, and the Bills are in that spot, you
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know, with Josh Allen's cap hit again this year of the dead chap is
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just so funny to be at ninety nine million dollars, but the regular cap
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hit this year for twenty twenty four forty seven million dollars for mister Josh Allen.
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And once that again, like we talked about a couple of weeks ago,
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once that starts to kick in, you really have to start getting efficient
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with how you spend your money and what you do. You need to nail
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more of your draft picks, which for the large art and large portion of
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Brandon Bean's tenure, the Bills have done, especially on the back end of
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things, They've hit on a lot of Day three picks. I think for
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the most part, they've hit on their Day one stuff. I think there
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are some hits and misses in rounds two and three that I know they'd like
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to be better at, and I'd like them to be better at, especially
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when you, you know, juxtapose them with a lot of the other major
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players in the AFC. But you know, these draft picks become even more
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important this offseason. Every dollar you spend becomes more important this offseason and going
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forward because you just don't have you don't have the luxury to swing and miss
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as much because you don't have that financial flexibility, you don't have the resource
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allocation to kind of spend wherever and whenever. And that's kind of where you
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start for this offseason priorities list, at least where I started for this episode,
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because there are several pieces to this team that need upgrades, that need
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facelifts, that need addressing. And that's also what we're going to talk about
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in tonight's episode as well, not just going to talk about positions and be
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like, hey, you know, the Bills need a wide receiver, yadiyada,
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what kind of wide receiver? What is the skill set, what is
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the scheme fit, what's the type of archetype fit, archetype fit that we're
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looking for that the Bills need to be looking for. And we're going to
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do that across the priority groups and off season priorities that need to be done.
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The schematics of it, the bones, the structure, not just listing
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things out, trying to go into more detail besides just the surface level of
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it all. But again, it starts with anything that you do. Any
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conversation you have from a free agency perspective. The draft is a different beast,
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But any conversation you have from a free agent perspective has to go through
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that filter of potential cost and monetary allocation. Any player that you think would
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be a fun addition or somebody that you would like the Bills to target,
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they have to pass through that first filter. From a financial perspective, they
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have to clear that first hurtle. If not, it's not even worth getting
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into the Discussion'm gonna talk about several players that kind of fit that bill,
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and you'll kind of see a lot of the players that are coming through that
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I have kind of earmarked for some of these positions. You know, you'll
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see kind of the lens that they come through and that I'd operate with when
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looking at some guys and addressing these big picture needs. But yeah, it's
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an interesting piece when when you look at it, because the Bills are as
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they sit right now, where are they fifty roughly fifty two million dollars over
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the cap. Again, I don't want to get too cap crazy in this
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episode. We will be doing the salary cap Spectacular in the coming weeks,
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like we have done the past several years, so I don't want to get
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too cap crazy and mathematical in this episode. There are, again, like
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always, things that the Bills can do certain players. They can extend what
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they can do with ree structures to knock cap hits down, convert dollars into
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signing bonuses, pro rate that over the life of a contract in order to
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reduce cap hits for this year. There are some pieces that they can do,
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but this isn't one of those years where man, yeah, they just
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get real creative and they'll have like forty million dollars in cab space and everything's
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great. It is. It's a tighter per string type of offseason for this
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team, and again that comes with the territory of having a Josh Allen unfortunately
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having the money attached to Von Miller coming through the money attached to to Von
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Diggs. Some of these guys at the Bills that paid that have been worth
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the contract, so maybe not so much, but they're starting to kind of
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come, do you gotta pay the rent? You gotta pay the bill?
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At some point, I like to comment here from Roy saying you can kill
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time by watching some UFL Yeah, it didn't the USFL and the XFL combined
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to make like a super league kind of super leagu I don't want to super
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league. I don't want to be rude Billy saying first pick wide receiver or
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something else. For me, I'm going with something else now, it depends
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on what is there. I'm gonna be banging this drum a lot in the
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offseason. Also, i want to preface that by saying what happens in free
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agency ultimately determines what the Bills do in the draft. And that's not news
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to anyone, but especially for me. Like right now, if I'm looking
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at the Bills team, I think it is I think there's a larger drop
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off at wide receiver. I'm sorry, at safety and defensive end and interior
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def lineman. Then there is a wide receiver. So I'm looking in the
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first round for a defensive player. I know that makes everybody upset, but
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I'm looking in that first round for one of the top safeties in the draft,
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Cam Kitchens or Tyler Newman. I'm looking if Byron Murphy, the defensive
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tackle from Texas drops, I'm looking at one of those guys that operate at
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a position where there is a larger drop off than wide receiver. I still
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think you can find really really good and I don't want to even say say
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value because I think when you say good value, it makes it just seem
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like, oh, okay, that's fun. No, you can find really
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good wide receivers in round two this year. But again, if de bending
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all the board falls, if a run happens, if somebody, if there's
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a run on quarterbacks and something else, and in tier defensive line players and
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offensive line players, and all of a sudden, you're sitting there at I
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don't know, and there's only four wide receivers that have gone off the board
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before you pick at twenty eight in the first round. Now you're getting maybe
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potentially a higher tier a wide receiver, so on and so forth. I
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think, just depending on the needs that remain after free agency. When his
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Billy says, yeah, I feel you. The defensive tackle from Texas,
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I also like the other defensive tackle from Texas to Andandre Sweat. I saw
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him at the Senior Bowl. Watch a bunch of his tape. But Byron
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Murphy from Texas is just a true three down player on the interior. I'd
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love to pair him with at Oliver, just what he can do against the
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run, how he drops the knee, how he reduces the surface area.
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One of the best interior players in the nation last year when it comes to
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pressuring the quarterback. And I think Daikwon Jones kind of gave us that unfortunate
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showing of like what was really good at that one tech spot playing opposite of
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Ed Oliver, somebody who could stop the run but also give you pass rush
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pop. So we set a bit of a high bar. I want to
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recreate that, and I think if you take Byron Murphy and pair him with
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Ed Oliver, you all of a sudden have a nice core on the interior
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your defensive line going forward. But yeah, so going back to your original
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question there, Billy at first pick again, if something crazy happens, like
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if Romo dunes A falls to twenty eight or something, I'd be like,
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oh man, I just think with the way the board is looking like it's
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going to fall right now, I would rather invest in another position of need
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in the first round and then attack wide receiver in the second round. I'm
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also attacking wide receiver in free agency for what's that? For what that is
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worth as well? But gooo. I like this question. He says,
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do you think being continues to build a basketball team in the wide receiver room?
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Do you think a premier pick will be spent on a big wide receiver.
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I think they address wide receiver at some point in free agency. I
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do expect a wide receiver to be taken in the draft. I just don't
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know if it's going to be in Round one. Given again, we're going
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to talk about it in this episode, but given the needs at a couple
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other positions, specifically, what up, Chris? Appreciate you being here thinking
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very much. Bills are electric priorities win the Super Bowl. So how do
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you beat Kansas City? Stop them from scoring or outscore them? Pick a
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side. I don't think it's ever like cut and dry, and you know
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what, I hate to play this card, honestly, but if the Bills
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are healthy in that division round, I'm deep not even completely healthy defensively.
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If they're just a smidge healthy against Kansas City, I think they beat the
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Kansas City Chiefs in the division round. And even with being super unhealthy,
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I don't know that game should have been at the very least tied twenty seven
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to twenty seven. And then you're forcing Patrick Mahomes to drive down and beat
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you, or even besides that, Allen makes a couple better decisions or throws
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there at the end, maybe you're looking at a thirty one to twenty seven,
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and now you gotta make the Chiefs drive and score a tuddy. Like
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there's all these Even with the mash unit that was put together on defense for
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the Bills, they were still I don't want to say a hair, but
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yeah, a hair away from beating the Kansas City Chiefs in the divisional round.
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I think they do have the team for it. I think they have
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the recipe for it. I just think what's unfortunate is when you get to
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the playoffs, it's two to three plays a game that really separate who wins
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and who loses a game. Baltimore sitting there saying the same thing. If
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Zey Flower scores on that huge completion in setting getting tackled by Snead, if
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he doesn't have the tawning penalty after that, and even with all that,
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if he doesn't get the ball punched out at what the one or the half
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yard line Snead all of a sudden, that's a completely different ball game.
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All these little tiny breadcrumbs and tiny puzzle pieces that add up to the larger
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picture. You just have a small margin for error come playoff time. Kansas
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City is a good team. I think the Bills have the recipe and the
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Bills have the squad. It just comes down to hoping the ball bounces their
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right way or bounces their way, either from a luck standpoint, or from
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a talent standpoint, or from a health standpoint. They just seem to be
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always off slightly in some way. The proverbial you know, always a bride's
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made, never a bride, seems to kind of come through with the Bills
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every year with the Chiefs. But I don't think for me, I don't
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think you're ever going to stop the Chiefs from scoring. You're just trying to
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make Patrick Mahomes inefficient and you're trying to mitigate what happens offensively for the Chiefs.
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And I think the Bills have a team that can do that when healthy.
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This is a completely different team when Christian Benford is healthy, when Terrell
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Bernard is healthy, when Matt Malana is healthy. And I think with the
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additions they can make defensively this year and building on top of that core.
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I think they'll be in a much better spot. If I had to pick
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a side, I know what today's NFL is, but I don't care.
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I'm going defense first and I'm stopping them from scoring. But that's just me
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follow up there. You have to plan on how to beat the Chiefs.
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Keep the ball away from Mahomes or score thirty plus points. I think it's
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to keep the ball away from Mahomes piece. I just think if you,
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if you give him enough possessions, eventually he's going to do something with it.
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I think the Bills game script for the division around worked largely. They
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just didn't have the bodies to execute it defensively, and they also didn't adjust
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well or didn't adjust in a timely enough fashion to counter what Kansas City was
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doing. Kansas City's counters were a bit, you know, kind of one
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step ahead of the Bills and a bit more effective, especially from an explosive
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play standpoint. But offensively, I think the Bill script worked. Like,
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you keep the ball away from Patch Mahomes, you run the ball down their
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throat, you grind and you wear on them, and you wear on them,
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and if you can hit some exposive on the PA in the past.
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Cool, But again, everything is risk reward. Right. If you're keeping
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the ball away from Mahomes, that means you're going on these longer drives.
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You're grinding out yards, you're grinding out possession. But that means those drives
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have to end in touchdowns. It means nothing if you have fifty minutes of
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possession and you get a field goal at the end of every drive and the
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Kansas City goes five plays seventy five yards in a touchdown, right, So
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you have to be everything is risk reward. If you try to score thirty
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plus points and you go three and out a bunch and give the ball back
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to Mahomes, you're kind of screwing yourself a little bit. If you go
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on these long, time consuming drives, you're limiting possession for yourself, which
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means you have to score more than three on a majority of your possessions,
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which was a problem that played the Bills under Ken Dorsey earlier in the year.
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I don't think there's any one right way, any one formula. But
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if I had to, I'm playing good defense and I'm keeping the ball away
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from Patrick Mahomes. That's what I'm doing. Brands will come in saying the
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Bills need twenty four ish players due to free agents. How are the Bills
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going to decide on positions to address a free agency versus the draft? Do
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you wait until after the draft to fill spots? You always try to us
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what you can in free agency, Mike I mentioned a bit earlier, and
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I'm going to get into a bunch of this as we go forward here.
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A lot of it is just filtered through that lens of the financial cost of
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all these players. Right, So, if you're looking at free agency,
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if they the Bills like to go into the draft, and this isn't me
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saying this, this is you know, proof in terms of what they've done
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and what we've seen, the sample size we've seen, and some of the
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things we've heard from Brandon Bean. They like to go into the draft having
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a best player available mindset, and in order to do that, you have
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to address as many of the holes as you can and fill as many of
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the holes as you can in free agency. The issue this time is they
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just don't necessarily have that money. I would expect, you know, several
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pieces to be addressed. They're not going to sit and leave the defensive line
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as it is going into the draft, I would expect a wide receiver addition
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going into the draft. Safety is a little murkier potentially, but I would
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expect free agent additions. You can't wait until after the draft to fill spots.
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You need to kind of know where your pain points are going into the
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draft. I think it's coming from RJ. Came out when I said I
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go defense in the first round. He said, bood defense. That's funny,
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Joe, what if? Joe? Joe's got finished doing his show on
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Tuesday's at seven thirty Under review, Joe says, genuine question, if the
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best player on the board is the center from Oregon, do you think being
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polls the trigger man Jackson powers Johnson JPJ from Oregon Center has some guard flexibility
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with what he's done. Came into the Senier bolt three hundred and thirty four
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pounds, which I was not anticipating given how he looked on tape and how
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he moved on tape. That's a tough one man like if and it's funny
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that I was just talking about, like BPA, I don't think so,
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because what does like where does he play? Actually potentially that could end up
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happening because depending on what happens with mich Morris, who knows, you know,
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maybe Mitch Morris isn't a Bill and they go with Jackson powers Johnson.
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I don't know what beam pulls the trigger, and I don't I don't think
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he would because I think that best player available has to come within the parameters
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of what their draft board is. It still has to be position of need.
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I don't think they're just taking baking best player available for the sake of
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taking best player available. Like, for instance, oh who is like to
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have this conversation with on Twitter? And it was a good conversation. Like
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if Terry and Arnold, the cornerback from Alabama is there at twenty eight,
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there's a good chance he's probably the best player available. But the Bills don't
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need a corner But Terry and Arnold's really good and he's the best player over
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all on the board, So do you take Terry and Arnold? That conversation
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then funnels into well, what does the Bills draft board look like? Is
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he a player of needs? So on and so forth. I think that
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best player available always comes with the caveat of it has to be at a
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position of need, not just well, this guy's the best, let's take
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it, especially if you've got legitimate needs with what the Bills have on defensive
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line. In terms of what they need on defensive line, at safety,
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at wide receiver. I don't think they necessarily have the luxury of just being
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like, well, we don't need this guy at this position, but hey,
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let's take it because he's awesome. They have other needs that they have
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to fill. If that's the case and he's that high on the board,
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I think they'll probably trade back or something like that. But I like that
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question, Joe, I like it a lot. Chris says, aunt you
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know, being will going to the draft of any Glennon holes on the roster,
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best player available with the chance to contribute is the best option, and
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that it's kind of why I continue to lean defense global. Breen ninety seven
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says, what about Jonah Ellis? Jonah Ellis from the edge from Utah.
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I was just starting to watch him a little bit last night. I was
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watching him and Vaki. There's a bunch of dudes on that not a bunch,
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but on that Utah defense. You got Ellis at edge and then you've
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got Vaki and Cole Bishop at safety. I've only watched like a half a
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game of Ellis my one thing right off the bat. I don't have too
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much house is because it's actually not even a half game. I'm like me,
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I'm barely into the second quarter if that in the one game that I
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watched that I started watching last night. But he's a bit light for what
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they typically look for at edge. He's listed at two hundred and forty six
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pounds. They usually look a bit heavier in terms of what they like from
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their edge defenders. But I'm actually looking at Ellis as we go forward in
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this week. So that's very that's very funny. That's funny from RJ.
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I think day Kwon Jones and everyone on that D line should be forced to
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take a bat minimum contract for a year to stay here. Just for the
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port showing against Kansas City. Chris says, how critical of a need is
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defensive end in your opinion? Very critical, and we're going to talk about
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We're going to talk about it as we go forward here. JG saying the
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rest advantage and was huge in that game. Yep, that was part of
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the disadvantage of the Bills not being able to play on that Sunday and having
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to play on that Monday, the Chiefs basically getting two full days arrest ahead
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of the Bills. Unfortunate. Unfortunate, unfortunate. NFL draft fanatics says,
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if a game comes down in two to three plays, what positions do we
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lack playmakers at? I think we lack playmakers at wide receiver aside from Stefan
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Diggs, and I think they lack playmakers on the defensive line Holistically across the
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defensive line. You know, you've got some impact guys that can make plays,
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like Ed Oliver or Greg Russo, but I think you impact the playmakers
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that you quote unquote like to have, especially when play off time, are
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usually those dudes that make a play on the ball or it's like some kind
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of game changing play. When I say play on the ball, I usually
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mean like interception and force fumble, sacks, something like that, and the
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Bills just haven't consistently come up with that, Like Lugarious Need that's a playmaker
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play on Zay Flowers to punch that ball out at the one yard line.
22:17
Jordan Poyer making that play on Miko Hardman against the Chiefs, that's a playmaker
22:21
type of play offensively, Yeah, I just think they lack play makers.
22:25
From a periphery weapons standpoint, they've got talent, I think they lacked the
22:27
top end play making piece. And then on that defensive line, it just
22:32
seemed like they ran out of steam and gas, especially from a playmaker standpoint.
22:37
Down down the stretch there, j G says we're gonna draft a running
22:41
back somewhere in this draft. I would think so, considering I don't.
22:44
I don't think Latavius Murray comes back. We'll see what happens with Harris and
22:48
then Fournette is man. I like Ty Johnson. I wouldn't mind having Ty
22:52
Johnson come back, but just from the cost and the term, I think
22:56
it would be nice if the Bills took like a running back and the fifth
23:00
round that they could make like an RB two or something like that. I
23:03
would think that they would take a running back in this draft. Or again,
23:06
that's an easy one too, because you can give unfortunately two way running
23:10
back. You can give like a nice one year, cheap type of deal
23:12
to a free agent running back and get good production. Again, nobody was
23:15
expecting Ty Johnson to do anything in the NFL this year and he came out
23:18
and was legitimately a pretty good RB two Royce's aunt. Have you looked into
23:26
available free agents? If so, who would be at the top of your
23:29
list? Realistically, I'm gonna get into that as we go forward, especially
23:32
for these position groups. Jareds is the media pushing Digs to be traded.
23:37
His dead cap hit makes him untradeable. Which is it? His dead cap
23:41
hit makes him untradable. That's that's what it is. M hmmm, what
23:47
don't spills are electric? Saying Jackson Powers is a hell of a player.
23:49
Yeah, he he is. He is a hell of a player. A
23:52
nice company. He is saying I would take Arnold. I think that's the
23:55
conversation, right If Terry and Arnold is there, you know, Bills don't
23:56
need him. But man, if he's really good, do you take him
23:59
when he YadA YadA. Chris saying, don't forget the bean is good to
24:07
get good at getting vets on cheap one year deals to fill out key death
24:10
spots. They might not have a lot of capitol. The players always on
24:11
play and come come and play with Josh Allen that's very fair. JG saying,
24:15
did it look like Leonard Floyd kind of dropped off the last quarter of
24:18
the season, or I'm making that up. No, from a projection standpoint,
24:21
I think so. I also think just from seeing him on tape,
24:22
it looked like it. There were also multiple times and this is just me,
24:29
This is just me connecting dots. I don't think. I don't know
24:32
if there's any fire to this smoke whatsoever. I noticed in multiple games down
24:37
the stretch, including the game it's the Chiefs no game against the Steelers,
24:41
he would come off the field and he'd be like working an arm or like
24:45
core type of thing in his body, and it just didn't it didn't look
24:49
like he was one hundred percent healthy. This is I have no idea if
24:52
this is true or not. This is not me with insider knowledge. This
24:55
is not me, you know, trying to stoke anything up. I don't
24:59
think. Let again, and everybody's hurt and banged up down the stretch.
25:02
I think Leonard Floyd was more banged up than we will potentially ever know down
25:07
the stretch. And I think it was more than just you know, he
25:10
ran out of juice. He looked banged up from an upper body standpoint,
25:12
a lower body standpoint. There were a couple of plays where Well and the
25:17
Steelers. One definitely sticks out to me from an upper body standpoint. There
25:19
was also one in the regular season from a lower body standpoint, like his
25:22
ankle or his knee. He got rolled up on and I remember seeing him
25:26
on tape get up and kind of like working out his leg, and I
25:29
just think he was banged up more than we know. I think he was
25:33
more injured than he was hurt, and it was impacting his play, similar
25:37
to how you know Rousseau kind of not disappeared, but was limited in effectiveness
25:41
in the middle of the season because he was dealing with a whole jacked up
25:44
foot issue and ankle and just couldn't be the player that they needed him to
25:48
be. And I think I think Floyd suffered that as well. Yo,
25:52
and I see people coming into the chest saying, yeah, Floyd looked banged
25:55
up. I agree. Corey's saying it is Nahem Heines still on a contract.
25:59
Yes, Hem, Heines is still on a contract. I looked it
26:03
up earlier. I just mentioned it right now just because he's under contract for
26:07
this year. He has a cap hit of five point four eight millions.
26:11
Basically five point five. If the Bills cut him, they can save five
26:14
million, and they only have a dead cap at a five hundred thousand as
26:17
of right now. I'm cutting the hem. Heines nothing personal. I just
26:18
think it has to be done. Bills are electric saying cam Kinchin's is a
26:22
playmaker. Boy, you don't have to talk to me about Cam kinchesy absolutely
26:26
is a playmaker. So is Tyler Duman. But yeah, that's that piece,
26:29
that's that conversation starter. So I love the engagement from the chat.
26:33
I didn't know what we'd get here on the kind of you know, first
26:36
week in February. It's slow, it's the off seasons after the Senior Bowl,
26:38
YadA, YadA. But I appreciate all the engagement coming through in the
26:41
chat. Any questions, thoughts, comments, concerns, anything else, Senior
26:44
Bowl related, free agency related, draft related, whatever you folks got,
26:48
continue to put it up into the chat. I will get to as many
26:49
of the questions, thoughts, comments, concerns as I can while getting through
26:55
this episode. Also, if I mute myself randomly, it's because I'm about
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app platform you're listening to this show on. Yeah, NFL drafting, I
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know there'll be some time a delay. NFL DRAFTNAX says eighty four watching nine
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likes. Yeah, that's not oh. Chris says, my apps shows twenty
28:21
four likes. That's still too low. I agree with Chris. More likes
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would be awesome. Please make you folks, Roy says The Rock over Cody
28:26
thoughts, I'm in shock. And they've been building to Cody Rhodes facing Roman
28:32
and finishing the story at WrestleMania for over a year and then The Rock apparently
28:34
signs this deal early in January when it joins the board and it becomes this
28:40
kind of secret handshake deal where he's automatically facing Roman at Mania, but nobody
28:45
really knows about it. I think it's wild. I think it's horribly bad
28:48
for business. It has to be Cody versus Roman, and Cody's got to
28:51
win the belt. I still think it's wild that it's happening. I still
28:53
don't believe it will. I don't think they're going to go through with it,
28:56
although everything tells me that they will. That just absolute wild, absolutely
29:00
wild. All right, let's start with the off season priorities. The first
29:03
position we're going to start with here is wide receiver. Now, I want
29:07
I want to say this for myself a little bit of a disclaimer. I
29:11
don't think wide receiver is the biggest positional priority for the Bills this offseason.
29:15
I don't even think it's the biggest off season in general, like not even
29:18
just like a position need, like I know a lot of people just think,
29:19
like, oh, it's the biggest need in general. I don't think
29:22
it's the biggest positional priority or the biggest priority for the Bills this offseason.
29:27
The one that I do, we'll talk about a little bit. But I
29:30
just want to start here because I know wide receivers on the forefront of the
29:33
minds of so much and so many of Bill's mafia. I mean, a
29:37
lot of the questions already came through with the chat about wide receiver in the
29:38
first round or something else. So we'll start with wide receiver. I just
29:44
want to put that there. Again, It's not my top priority. It
29:47
is a priority though, and it is a positional need. But let's go
29:51
through and start with that wide receiver piece. So the current wide receiver roster
29:56
for twenty twenty four as we sit right now on Tuesday, February sixth,
30:00
nine thirty pm Eastern, Stefan Diggs, Deontay Hardy, Khalil Shakir, kJ
30:04
Hamler, Justin Shorter, Andy Isabella the Goat, Tyrell Shavers, and Brian
30:10
Thompson also want to throw this note in there quick. Deontay Hardy, you
30:12
could cut him and save four point two million dollars with the dead cap hit
30:17
of only one point four I'm not a huge fan of creating holes at a
30:22
position of need because then you have to fill that hole in additioned already having
30:26
to add to that position group. But some potential financial flexibility there with cutting
30:30
Deontay Hardy this year regardless. Ooh, I like where Chris's head is at
30:36
saying I think the biggest I think the Bill's biggest position of need is defensive
30:40
tackle. Oh. I also like where RJ's head is at with Cody and
30:42
the Rock. I can't get distracted. I'm sorry, I can't constract it.
30:45
I can't fall off. But I like where your head is at there.
30:48
But but hold on, I want to go here because I see I
30:52
feel like this question is the yelling at me. Robert says, Anthony,
30:56
you blame Josh for two bad plays that they'd get. The defensive line has
30:57
been pushed off the ball the last three playoff games. How come you podcasters
31:02
never talk about the Bills thirty drop passes in twenty twenty three. I think
31:06
you're generalizing me a lot with other people. Myself and Eric did an entire
31:11
film room episode about how bad the defense was against the Chiefs and how poor
31:15
the run fits were and how they got pushed around. What happened to Ed
31:18
Oliver. I was actually fairly critical of the defensive line and what happened.
31:23
And I also have talked about the Bills drop passes. I don't know if
31:26
you're just like yelling at me because you're trying to vent or using me as
31:30
a lightning Rod for your frustration, but I don't think this comment necessarily applies
31:34
to me. Yes, I have blamed Josh Allen. I think I blame
31:37
everybody equally. I critique it and call it like I see it based on
31:41
what the film shows and the advanced metrics shows. But I disagree with how
31:45
you're kind of coming at me a little bit, and I think you're generalizing
31:48
me a bunch there. But teach their own, all right. So also
31:52
a lot of the defensive line conversation. We're going to be getting to that
31:53
shortly, and I appreciate where everyboy's head is at. It makes me feel
31:56
like I'm not the only one when it thinks that position group is a need.
32:00
Oh wide receivers, I kind of rattled a bunch of names off again.
32:04
Stefan Diggs, Deontay Hardy, Khalilshakir kJ Hamler, Justin Shorter, Andy
32:07
Isabella, Tyrol Shavers, Brian Thompson. Those are the wide receivers under contract
32:10
for twenty twenty four. Gabe Davis. As polarizing as he may be,
32:16
Gabe Davis last year had nine hundred and sixty six snaps for this Buffalo Bill's
32:21
team. That was seventy four a seventy four percent snap share. Trent Sherfield
32:24
five hundred snaps last year thirty eight percent snap share. Both of those players
32:30
are unrestricted free agents. I don't expect Gabe Davis to be back. Surefield,
32:36
I guess is a possibility, but I know disrespect to him, I
32:38
think that's the less important conversation to be had, Like, if he does
32:40
come back, it's going to be cheap and it's not going to be anything
32:44
that's too consequential. Necessarily, the Bill's wide receiver snaps, there were three
32:49
thousand, four hundred and thirty one of them in twenty twenty three. With
32:52
Sherfield and Gabe Davis being gone, you are losing one thy four hundred and
32:57
sixty six of those snaps, which is forty two point seven percent. So
33:00
you're losing roughly forty three percent of your wide receiver snaps from twenty twenty three.
33:07
Now, that's just the basic numbers. Kind of put the head.
33:08
You're put that into perspective of the amount of snapshare, losing the amount of
33:12
on field minutes and contribution. Again, regardless of what you think of sure
33:15
Feel and Gabe Davis, you are losing significant contributors to your team from a
33:22
snapshare perspective. Also, I don't want to get too much into it Gabe
33:23
Davis, but I do think he is better than he gets credit for with
33:29
all that is asked of him and all that he does. I don't want
33:30
to get too sidetracked into that conversation piece right now, But however you slice
33:34
it, you are losing a significant amount of snaps from your wide receiver room
33:37
in twenty twenty three and again gave Davis not returning It might be music to
33:43
the ears of some or many. I know how polarizing he is. I
33:45
know how polarizing his skill set and his production have become for the fan base.
33:51
But however you feel about him, losing him is a legitimate, you
33:54
know, quote unquote loss because of the snapshare he had and what he did.
33:58
Again, I think he's better than then he got or gets credit for,
34:01
given what was asked of him and what his role truly entailed as a
34:06
coverage puller, as the downfield option, big time yards per reception contributor,
34:10
big time average depth of target, fitting into you know, on those inserts,
34:15
and fitting up on defensive ends and edges and linebackers and safeties as the
34:20
Bills are running duo and other pieces and condensed looks. If you agree,
34:23
that's cool, If you don't, that's cool either way. The Bills need
34:27
to replace his nine hundred and sixty six snaps and Trentsuerfield's five hundred snaps.
34:30
Now a lot of the talk again, you need a wide receiver, you
34:35
get it, You need a wide receiver and JG's already kind of coming through
34:37
and sayings, so you need you need to add at least two wide receivers
34:39
in the draft slash free agency basically where to get to it as well,
34:45
So Gabe not returning me opens up basically your wide receiver two spot. And
34:52
I think it's important to quantify what a wide receiver two needs to be for
34:58
this Bills team. So give the current build of the wide receiver group under
35:02
contact, under contract. But I think the Bills need two things, and
35:07
I talked about it a bit on the previous show two weeks ago. Basically,
35:09
that wide receiver two needs to be more of a complete wide receiver slash
35:13
like a more dynamic wide receiver too, Ideally a wide receiver who can be
35:17
a true X wide receiver. For those who don't know to find it real
35:22
quick, your X receiver is also known as the split end. It's basically
35:27
the wide receiver in most formations that's tied or tethered to the line of scrimmage,
35:31
so he is often on the side by himself. He's not the one
35:36
going in motion. He's again usually by himself on the line of scrimmage.
35:40
It means the corner has an opportunity to jam him. It means you're facing
35:45
more one on one coverage, potentially more double teams. You're not getting that
35:47
advantage of getting moved off the line of scrimmage. You're getting put in different
35:52
looks to allow you to help you with your release or help you with your
35:55
stem. You need to be able to get off jams. You need to
35:58
be able to work downfield. You need more of a complete route tree.
36:00
The easiest way to put it into perspective is the X receiver is usually your
36:05
prototypical complete wide receiver. Think Julio Jones, the guy who can basically do
36:10
everything and has a frame and a build that allows him to do everything.
36:15
Size, hands, speed, catch, radious, complete route tree, good
36:20
route runner, anything and everything can high point the football all these aspects of
36:22
what a true complete wide receiver is. That's usually what a team's X receiver
36:27
is, and again usually lining up by themselves, usually away from the tight
36:30
end, away from the Z or the motion wide receiver, and usually a
36:35
team's number one wide receiver. But it doesn't have to be that. Stefan
36:38
Diggs. The way he gets used, he gets used more in the slot,
36:42
he gets put in motion. He also tends to come off the field
36:45
when the Bill's going to twelve personnel or their run heavy formation, So he's
36:49
more of a Z wide receiver. And that's okay too. You know,
36:52
you can have a Z like a like a Stevon Diggs, like a Tyreek
36:53
Kill. That doesn't mean they're not good, that doesn't mean they're not the
36:58
number one receiver. It's just it just means they're used differently. Schematically,
37:01
z's are used differently from slot receivers, who are used different from X wide
37:06
receivers. I just wanted to define that to kind of again put this into
37:08
perspective. And again when I say that Digs is more of a Z wide
37:12
receiver, that's usually the wide receiver who's off the line of scrimmage, you're
37:15
usually on the same side of the formation as the tight end or the slot
37:19
receiver. You're usually lining up off the line of scrimmage. You can be
37:22
motioned across the formation. In old school or more old school kind of football,
37:28
the Z was usually like your pure speed guy, or your movement guy,
37:30
or your type of shifty guy that you would use to draw coverage or
37:35
threaten defenses vertically. But again it can differ based on team, based on
37:39
wide receiver, based on makeup, and Stefan Diggs gets used in more of
37:44
that Z type of role. Again, he has a complete route tree,
37:46
he has a great release package, he can do. He's one of the
37:50
most complete receivers in the NFL. But how he is used and how you
37:53
like to use him, he can function more in that Z. So knowing
37:59
that that alters for me the kind of wide receiver that you look for,
38:02
because I think you need to look for more of an X type, Somebody
38:06
who can win on the backside of concepts and bake weight I'm sorry, win
38:12
on the backside of the formation. Somebody who can win jump balls, those
38:15
back shoulder throws, bigger body, bigger framed guy. And then Also that
38:20
guy is staying on the field if you're going in twelve personnal or you only
38:23
have one wide receiver on the field because they're a good blocker or they're a
38:29
good threat in a multitude of areas and you can do different things. So
38:30
I think you're looking for more of a complete skill set package, dynamic aspect
38:37
two way wide receiver too, Versus Gabe Davis, who, despite his success
38:42
downfield, which was significant, wasn't overly fast, was sometimes a good ball
38:47
winner and spectacular catch guy downfield sometimes not, didn't have the most complete routtree.
38:53
I don't think he was a bad route runner, but I don't think
38:55
his routtree was necessarily complete, especially when you need a guy to kind of
38:59
win one on one more or or make defenses pay for you know, you
39:05
putting Stefan Diggs to the two receiver side, or putting Steffan Digs to the
39:08
trip side, or in a bunch knowing you've got more one on one on
39:12
the back side with that X or that single side receiver. You want a
39:15
guy who can make teams pay where they have to think like, oh,
39:17
can we really rotate a safety to Digs, cause you know, their number
39:21
two will kill us like that type of guy that kind of poses that threat.
39:27
And again, I don't want to get too much into the draft weeds
39:29
for this conversation, but I think this is a good way to kind of
39:31
put it together and put a picture together for you folks. Xavier Worthy wide
39:36
receiver from Texas. I love Exavier Worthy. You're just so Again. I
39:40
don't want to get too crazy into it right now, but I really love
39:43
everything a lot of what Xavier Worthy is and does. However, I don't
39:47
think he ticks that you know X wide receiver box. He's more of a
39:51
Z and a slot wide receiver. And if the Bills draft him, which
39:53
is something I'd love, I think you have to also add a prototypical X
39:58
wide receiver either in f agency or in the draft, probably free agency,
40:02
depending on if you're expecting you know, meaningful or known quantity snaps. In
40:07
twenty twenty four, juxtaposed Xavier Worthy with somebody who I also really love,
40:12
and I started talking about them before the Senior Bowl, mister Javon Baker,
40:14
wide receiver from UCF. His size, his frame, his skill set fits
40:20
more of that prototypical X wide receiver box. Now he needs a little more
40:23
polished. There's a different there's a different skill set, there's a different level
40:27
of polished to each player, different usage all of that stuff either way,
40:30
no matter how you slice it, going to kind of JG's comment earlier,
40:34
you need multiple wide receivers coming out of the out of free agency and the
40:37
draft, and also for me, ideally speed is a component in each edition
40:43
that you make your wide receiver too well, your X wide receiver, however
40:46
you want to label it, however you're defining it. They need to have
40:50
speed baked into their wide receiver profile. And I would also ideally like the
40:54
other top wide receiver edition that happens this off season to also have speed big
40:59
bag. I think speed at the wide receiver position can't just be a niche
41:05
piece for one wide receiver that's on this team. It can't just be John
41:08
Brown or Deontay Hardy or even Trench Surefield. It can't just be one guy
41:14
who can get downfield and it's like, yeah, that's like that's our speed
41:16
guy. I think they need to have speed across the board. When it
41:20
comes to the wide receiver position, they need more of a field stretching element
41:24
to this offense to not only pull coverage but also be a consistent threat downfield
41:30
in one on ones and also within that conversation with major disclaimer as always,
41:34
being fast doesn't mean you'll be a vertical threat when we're when we're looking for
41:37
somebody from a speed perspective, I know that that's the conversation speed. It's
41:44
going to be, oh, what kind of speed do they have? How
41:45
fast are they? YadA YadA, what can they do downfield? YadA YadA.
41:46
But it's more winning downfield and being a vertical threat is more than just
41:51
speed. Speed absolutely helps. It's good to be fast. It's an important
41:53
piece in winning downfield, but it's not a like for like where you know
41:58
if you're fast that means be a vertical threat. You need some of that
42:00
route running nuance. You need some of that ability even if you're a dude
42:05
who comes out and runs like a four to two or a fourth thinking like
42:07
John Ross from all those years ago out of Washington and went to Cincinnati.
42:10
Like there's so much more to it, But I think the Bills wide receiver
42:15
grouping needs more speed on the whole. For as much as I love Stefan
42:21
DAGs, I think he's a complete wide receiver. I think he's a true
42:23
number one. He's one of the best wide receivers in the NFL. He
42:25
doesn't really have that burner vertical speed element, and he's able to win.
42:30
That's a good example too of how speed isn't necessarily the end all be all
42:34
for winning deep. He can win downfield because he's a good route runner,
42:37
because he's good with deception, because he's good with body language and manipulating corners
42:42
into making them think A when really he's doing B. And that allows him
42:45
to get vertical and get downfield. But I think they need more of that
42:50
pure speed presence again in the wide receiver room as a whole, but especially
42:55
in that wide receiver too, having somebody who ticks that box in addition to
43:01
being able to block and be able to stay on the field for a majority
43:05
of snaps, it just adds a lot of options to this offense. And
43:08
I think that that's where you have to start, like you need again,
43:13
and I like Gabe Davis, I think probably more than most do. I
43:15
don't think he's amazing. I don't think he was like the best wide receiver
43:17
to so on and so forth, But that lack of speed I think hurt
43:22
him at times, especially when you pair it with not being the best route
43:27
runner. Again, I don't think he was a horrible route runner, but
43:29
necessarily wasn't the best, and I think those two things limited him significantly.
43:32
Whereas if you have a guy who can just consistently be a threat with that
43:37
speed off the backside, even if you're just using him to pull coverage,
43:39
even if you're just doing the Gabe Davis role with him, where it's like,
43:43
hey man, we're just going to send you on a bunch of posts
43:45
and a bunch of verticals to pull coverage and then try and open up some
43:49
guys underneath. Even if you're just doing that, if the guy is more
43:52
of a speed threat, who knows, maybe you actually chuck it to him,
43:54
Maybe you alert based on what coverage is, based on what you see
43:59
pre snap, and maybe he can get by that guy, and all of
44:00
a sudden you're hitting a home run shot or a chunk play, or even
44:04
just off the basic threat of teams knowing that dude can really boogie, all
44:07
of a sudden you gotta send help over the top. And now becomes a
44:10
different numbers game when you're pulling coverage, the threat and that worry that it
44:15
presents the defenders and defenses changes that picture a little bit. So again,
44:19
I think you are looking for more of a true extraceiver type, someone who
44:24
can win off the line of scrimmage, potentially bigger body frame, guy who
44:29
can go up and high point the football, good hands, catch radius,
44:31
more of a complete route tree, but that speed element has to be present.
44:36
And again I think also what you're looking for is ideally that wide receiver
44:39
two is someone who could become a wide receiver one either in their own right,
44:45
in their own role, or into that Stefan Diggs role potentially in a
44:49
couple of years, which is also another reason why I like Xavier Worthy,
44:52
because I think it's Stefan Diggs starts to potentially mosey on out from Buffalo in
44:55
several years, then it's even easier just to fit Xavier Worthy into that role
45:00
in his skill set. I really just like He'savierworthy a lot. But again,
45:05
this schematic, schematically, that's what you're looking for. It can't just
45:07
be oh, yeah, you want a receiver. You need that speed,
45:09
presence and you need that kind of true wide receiver standpoint, some names and
45:14
free agency just who I took a quick peek at again. Money is going
45:19
to be a huge, huge piece of this. That's the filter you have
45:22
to start with for everybody. I put this tweet out earlier again, and
45:25
I know some of these names aren't gonna be great. Up, you're gonna
45:28
hear these games would be like ah no. But again, it can't be
45:30
like, oh yeah, Mike Evans, you know the money from Mike Evans.
45:35
Oh yeah, you know. T Higgins would be great. Michael Pittman
45:37
Junior would be awesome. You know, Calvin Ridley would be sweet. I
45:39
saw that name come through. Just not like you just You're not gonna have
45:42
the money for those dudes, which is unfortunate. But guys in free agency
45:45
I'm looking at, I'm thinking like the Van Jeffersons, the DeMarcus Robinson's,
45:50
Curtis Samuel, DJ Shark, Noah Brown potentially really high EPA per target,
45:55
did very well in that vertical passing attack offense with Bobby Slow in Houston.
46:00
Used this kind of more of a power slot in Houston at times, a
46:04
guy who could crack down on edges. That's hilarious. I just saw Chris
46:08
come in and say the guy I really want free agency and wide receivers Noah
46:10
Brown. Yeah, their years of no Brown to crack down on linebackers and
46:15
edges and defensive ends can get vertical a little bit. Big dude as well,
46:21
where are my measurables listed? At six to two two hundred and fifteen
46:22
pounds, ran a four or five six coming out from Ohio State, I
46:29
believe. But if you're running that at six two, like you're having a
46:31
longer stride and he is a bit of a longer stride guy like dude can
46:35
move, has a bit of size to him. Again, that's two hundred
46:38
and fifteen pounds, would be a nice thing to add to that wide receiver
46:42
room. He can block, he can function a lot of ways. I
46:45
think those are the types of names you are kicking around from a free agency
46:50
standpoint. I think you're looking at somebody. I know Darnell Mooney has been
46:52
mentioned. I think you're looking at dudes those prototypical I don't know, like
46:55
a one or two year type of deal for somebody, approve it type deal.
47:00
Somebody who either possesses an aspect of their game where they're trying to trying
47:05
to rehabilitate themselves for a big contract, or they possess this one skill set
47:10
element that helps you trying to take the offense over the top a little bit.
47:15
But again, if you are going from a free agency standpoint, like
47:17
I don't think that if you get Van Jefferson, that's awesome. I don't
47:22
think Van Jefferson suddenly becomes like your wide receiver too, Like he can just
47:24
function in that role a little bit more similar to DeMarcus Robinson. Curtis Samuel
47:30
is a bit of a different character with his speed, his gadget usage,
47:34
being able to work out of the slot. I also think he's probably gonna
47:36
cost too much, although that would be kind of sweet. DJ Chark is
47:38
another one. His value, I believe, is down, but he can
47:40
get He can get vertical ran a sub four four I think like a four
47:45
three nine forty coming out has had some drops at different times, but he
47:50
gives you some options. Again, none of these names at wide receiver and
47:52
free agency are going to be sexy. You're not going to see a free
47:57
agent addition at wide receiver if you're the Buffalo Bills and think, oh man,
48:00
I feel great about this wide receiver room they still have to add in
48:02
the draft, which is where the primary work is going to be done because
48:06
the draft is loaded with wide receivers, as I'm sure everybody in their mother
48:09
knows at this point, but those are some names kind of looking at this
48:14
point. Also, just for reference, Brandon Bean in the Brandon Bean era
48:19
with the Buffalo Bills, the average height and weight for wide receivers that are
48:22
drafted for them, just to kind of give you a peek in terms of
48:24
the size profile they look for when building the wide receiver room. Average six
48:30
foot one, two hundred pounds, so a little bit bigger. It's funny
48:34
too, considering like what they've done a free agency and like Trey Werdsan like,
48:37
oh John Brown, I'm like, oh coleb. Easiley, and even's
48:38
like Stefan Days isn't the biggest guy. But when you look at that draft
48:42
profile, they kind of lean bigger a little bit. Granted, you know
48:44
that's probably skewed by the fact of you know, Isaiah Hodgens and Gabe Davis
48:47
being like bigger body dudes and them not necessarily going to that wide receiver draft.
48:51
Well a ton in that being air. So that's something to keep in
48:54
mind as well. But again, take a peek at that or keep that
49:00
in the back of your mind when you're thinking about what kind of receiver the
49:02
Bills need to add this year. Just think about what you normally would see
49:05
from that Gabe Davis role. That gave Davis role is important. Somebody who
49:08
can kind of do a little bit of everything is bigger, can block and
49:12
function in a bunch of ways. Think of that role, and then think
49:15
what you would like to improve upon or tweak about that. Like, really,
49:17
if I could just have Gabe Davis and then just make him I don't
49:21
know, like a four to four type of wide receiver like that might be
49:23
enough for me, or even leave him at the speed that he is and
49:25
just give me a more of a complete route tree and more deception and a
49:30
better sharper suddenness to the route stem and breaks from a wide receiver. And
49:35
I could be happy with Gabe Davis coming back like that type of thing.
49:38
But again, you're looking for kind of more of a true X wide receiver.
49:42
Speed has to be a component. Speed has to be a component regardless
49:45
of what receiver they add. I know JG. In the comments earlier,
49:47
said, you're looking at adding at least to wide receivers. I think that's
49:51
what it is. I think you're looking at adding at least two. I
49:54
would think based on what Bean said in his presser and just based on how
49:59
things are shaping up for the all, I would expect one wide receiver edition
50:02
in free agency, and I would expect two in the draft. I don't
50:07
know where. It might be a first and a fifth, it might be
50:08
a second and a third, or a second and a fourth, whatever,
50:13
or maybe you know multiple. They do have ten picks with that Edmunds compit
50:15
coming through, but I would expect three wide receiver editions this offseason one and
50:20
free agency, two in the draft. Then again, keep that little Deontay
50:22
Hardy nugget in the back of your mind as well where you can cut him
50:27
and say four point two million with a dead cap hit of only one point
50:30
four million dollars. I want to grab some comments here. I see Joe
50:38
saying Worthy in all caps. I really love Xavier Worthy and just what he
50:44
does. He is a wide receiver. Where are some of my notes on
50:46
and yeah, his toughness in contact, balance, he understands space and leverage.
50:51
His acceleration and deceleration in and out of breaks, with his ability to
50:53
sink his hips, how he can win versus press with suddenness and hand usage
51:00
that he can. You know, he's good vertically. He's got good ball
51:01
tracking. He improved on his drops, he had five and twenty twenty three
51:07
after having seven in twenty twenty two, but his drops are still less than
51:08
ideal. He attacks leverage, he eats up cushion, he creates indecision in
51:14
defensive backs with his stem. I think what's the nice piece about him is,
51:16
you know, I do have some of the contested catch questions and the
51:20
ability to go up and get it consistently, especially against NFL dbs and corners,
51:22
but he wins in a way that is Josh Allen friendly. Josh Allen
51:27
likes guys who separate early and often, and that is what Xavier Worthy is.
51:30
He separates with the best of them with what he can do. And
51:35
he he's got the vertical ability to take the top off the defense and pull
51:37
coverage or win downfield big time. And he's got great ball tracking. You
51:43
know, you watch him. Just track that quinn Ewers moon ball against Alabama
51:47
and it's an impressive piece to his game. He's tough as hell. He's
51:50
only, you know, six one, one hundred and seventy two pounds,
51:52
but you're watching him catch bubble screens and little hitches and watching him lower his
51:57
shoulder through corners, and you know, safeties are coming lining him up on
52:00
a little tunnel screens and he's just bouncing off it and getting a couple more
52:04
yards after contact. He possesses a lot to like at the wide receiver position.
52:07
I'm super super high Unworthy. I just don't know if the fit necessarily
52:12
works currently with the offense. But I would not be opposed to Exavier Worthy
52:19
whatsoever. I like this guy, Robert. I don't know if you're so
52:23
angry at me, Anthony. You blame Josh for a lot, but the
52:25
Bills will be I'm not a gonna read this comment. This is whatever.
52:28
I don't care. Booth Macgoo says there's a potential X wide receiver when they
52:35
pick in round two. It's a deep draft, but that may be tough.
52:38
Yeah, I'm targeting Javon Baker. He was a target for me going
52:40
into the Senior Bowl. He's more of a target coming out of it.
52:44
I really liked him at the Senior Bowl and what he did. My hope
52:51
was, My hope still is that Javon Baker can be had in the third
52:53
round. I wouldn't be opposed at taking him in round two just to be
52:59
safe really like Javon Baker and what he can do, or I wouldn't be
53:02
Again, I wouldn't be, I know you answering your specific question here,
53:06
Like Javon Baker would be my target there like that that guy. And again
53:08
I have more wide receivers to get through. I've when we started getting into
53:12
the class with everything that's been going on. But Javon Baker big time,
53:15
who ticks that potential X wide receiver box in round two. And again I
53:19
also wouldn't be opposed to, like I don't know, taking like a Jayleen
53:22
McMillan in round two. If you got a DeMarcus Robinson or a Band Jefferson
53:27
in free agency or something like that. Again, you're gonna have to kind
53:30
of, you know, plug the holes in different ways and kind of you
53:32
know, put the puzzle together in order to kind of no matter what you're
53:36
doing, like it's going to be free agency and the draft, how do
53:38
those things fit together, which is also why I think free agency is super
53:42
interesting because I think the type of free agent wide receiver they bring in could
53:45
be indicative of the wide receivers that they look to go after in the draft,
53:50
which is also a fun piece. Bills are electric saying so many good
53:54
wide receivers, but I'm not married to an ex Troy flank Well falling apart
53:59
already. Try Roy Franklin, Roman Wilson, Ricky Pier saw Javon Baker,
54:02
Malik Washington. Yeah, all those dudes have something to offer. I liked
54:06
Malik Washington's tape at Virginia. Again. I'm early in on wide receivers as
54:10
a whole again in the draft process. In general, it's February sixth,
54:14
there's so long ago. But I like what I saw from Elik Washington at
54:16
Virginia, a ton of targets, So I'm excited to go into some more
54:20
tape and see more of his usage. Roman Wilson, I didn't watch tape,
54:23
but obviously saw him at the Senior Bowl and he had a hell of
54:25
a week. Was arguably like the best offensive player there at the Senior Bowl.
54:29
Ricky Pier saw same thing. Like the tape like what I saw the
54:32
Senior Bowl. Jabon Baker already spoken on him. Troy Franklin, I'm a
54:36
little I don't want to say down on Troy Franklin, but his speed is
54:40
very real. He runs like a I don't know whatever animal you think is
54:45
fast. I know Tyreek Hill is the cheatah, So I don't want to
54:46
say cheatah. But Gazelle, I guess like, or whatever animal runs really
54:51
jaguar, I don't know, like whatever animal is super smooth and fast.
54:53
That's what Troy Franklin is. His speed is very, very very real.
54:58
How he wins conc distantly vertically, how he can stack dudes and just split
55:02
safeties on posts, and what he can do. My thing with Troy Franklin
55:07
is I em very man on his route running, and when I say man,
55:10
I'm just not a fan of it. Most of his routes are all
55:15
based off of a vertical stem, so goes, posts, hitches, comebacks
55:22
maybe like slants and little stuff like that, like and then you get that
55:24
the odd to like one off like bubblescreen and drags and things like that.
55:27
But there's not much to his route stem. There's not much suddenness. He
55:31
has one of the ugliest whip routes I've ever seen, like ever in life.
55:37
But I think if you draft someone like Troy Franklin, your hope is,
55:39
Okay, we lean into the speed and everything he can do vertically,
55:44
and then we try to develop that route tree, We try to develop that
55:46
deception in the body language piece and all of that. His advanced metrics are
55:50
all strong and solid. And again, you just watch one game. We
55:52
watch the tape and just watch him fly upfield, and I think in this
55:55
offense his fit could be really ideal. And I'll I'll put it to you
56:00
like this for Troy Franklin. Right. I like Exavier Worthy way more as
56:05
a prospect than I do Troy Franklin. But I think Troy Franklin's fit with
56:08
the Bills offense this year is better than Xavier worthies. And that's where so
56:13
much this conversation is going to go as well for wide receiver, because some
56:16
wide receivers are going to be better than others. But then you got a
56:19
factor in that scheme fit, their size, their frame, their role,
56:22
what can they do? Similar to what Jackson Smith and Jigba was coming out
56:25
last year, so many teams saw him as a slot. So a team
56:29
that was going to take Jackson Smith and Jigba, the thought going in was,
56:32
okay, are you a team that needs a slot receiver? If not,
56:36
okay, are you even considering Jackson Smith and Jigba Because teams not necessarily
56:39
everybody viewed him as kind of that guy who could win on the outside as
56:43
opposed to being a slot that's a piece as well. Bomagooseain. I like
56:47
mconkie for his zak and route running. Lad McConkie, it's probably between him
56:53
and Ricky piersolv for who, like the best route runner is in this wide
56:57
receiver class. Of those dudes after like, I mean, Marvin Harrison doesn't
57:00
count, He's in his own tier. I don't like, no conversation should
57:04
be had when about Marvin Harrison, Like he does everything amazing and his wordy
57:07
it's just like put him in his own thing. But I think after aside
57:10
from Marvin Harrison, I think there's a conversation for Maconkie Pearsall as being just
57:16
the best pure route runners, especially with how they win given their size and
57:20
frame and everything like that. I think that's a real conversation that can be
57:23
had Joe DeRosa coming in saying, I know they aren't sexy names. Oh,
57:28
Matt Collins or Miller from Atlanta could be useful as death pieces. Atlanta's
57:31
QB play was so bad that I think it dropped their value down significantly.
57:36
Yeah, I mean it's a similar conversation my thought with Van Jefferson. You
57:37
know, he goes with Atlanta, things don't work out from there. He's
57:40
only a couple of years removed from still doing well with like Baker Mayfield in
57:45
LA two years ago, got the size, profile, got the athleticism,
57:50
in the speed, you're looking at somebody to that point, you're looking at
57:52
somebody who can either fulfill a niche or has some sort of potential that you
57:59
feel as tap. You're looking for traits and then thinking you can coach up
58:01
those trades from the free agent piece. Trek reviewer comings and saying, I
58:06
still want the Bills to draft Johnny Wilson from Florida State six six, two
58:09
thirty. Is he gonna run a four four forty that'd be wild. I
58:13
don't know. If he's gonna he's really lanky, that would be pretty crazy.
58:16
Boomagoo, saying, Oh, Xavier Legett could probably fill the game.
58:20
Davis role. I really didn't like what Lagette did on Day one at the
58:22
Senior Bowl. He won me back more day two. But he's a similar
58:30
piece. Like he's kind of like AJ Brown light. I hate doing comps,
58:32
but you look at what AJ Brown was early in his career, Like
58:36
you're looking at somebody who's just gonna run posts and drags and slants and tunnel
58:39
screens and it is going to be a load to take down once the ball
58:43
is in his hands. He's yoked up like he's cut. He's physical,
58:46
he's fast, he can stretch the field. We'll see what he does at
58:49
the Combine. He's somebody who I thought he was gonna have a better Senior
58:52
Bowl than he did, which was disappointing. But I think he'll test very
58:54
well at the Combine. He's gonna jump out of the gym. I think
58:58
his forty will be good, his measurables, three cone, all that stuff.
59:00
I think he's gonna test well. You have to polish him up as
59:02
a route runner, but he's gonna tick a lot of athleticism boxes. He's
59:07
gonna test really well at the combine. He's gonna look good physically doing it.
59:10
I could see him running up some boards. He's another interesting name as
59:14
well, just from again like betting on the traits and then believing you can
59:19
coach up more of the technical aspect. Yeah, those are electric coming in
59:25
SAT beats, and he wants explosive players, yeah, and explosive players and
59:28
mentioning weapons and offensive pieces similar to him or no last year. The I
59:34
think at the combine the conversation he mentioned multiple times like you know, getting
59:38
weapons on offense, getting weapons on offense, just making these kind of uh,
59:44
you know, alluding to that, that type of usage. And then
59:46
they went out and took Dalton kin kid in the first so you know he
59:50
drops little nuggets every now and again. Eh, Wayman Brown coming in Saint
59:59
Jalen Polk yet the other Washington wide receiver. It's wild that you know a
1:00:01
doonsay Polk and McMillan, and then McMillan got hurt to start this year after
1:00:06
putting together like an eleven hundred yard season last year. If McMillan doesn't get
1:00:09
hurt, Polk's usage might be even less than it was this year. It's
1:00:14
wild, just like and then you have Dylan Johnson. I also like Jack
1:00:16
West over their tight end from Washington, like the weapons they had and then
1:00:20
having Penix as the trigger man, like man wild stuff. Jordan Case saying
1:00:24
ugly in a good way. This is in reference to Troy Franklin's whip route.
1:00:28
No ugly isn't like it's awful and I hate it kind of wake ooh
1:00:35
oh. I like this. I like this comment from Wayman saying Xavier Worthy
1:00:38
looks like a piece for Mahomes. He does. I could see Xavier Worthy
1:00:42
in the Chiefs offense, just kind of balling out. That's a really good
1:00:45
That's a really good comment. I mean, I hate it, but that's
1:00:46
a really good comment. Dang john coming in and saying what up fan Troy
1:00:51
Franklin. No matter what, that's fair. I get it, and especially
1:00:55
too if you want that speed piece. Speed is sexy, and he's got
1:00:59
it in space. I'm sure he'll run a good forty at the combine,
1:01:01
which will make it look even better. I just wish there was more to
1:01:06
his game overall. I wish there was more physicality. Some his hands aren't
1:01:12
great as much as I'd like them to be. He's fine as a ball
1:01:15
tracker. The big selling point is the speed, and you're trying to coach
1:01:17
him up. I don't know where. All I know is right now I
1:01:21
have Exavier Worthy ahead of Troy Franklin and that ain't gonna change. But again,
1:01:24
if we're talking like Bill's skill set, in Bill's usage, I think
1:01:30
Troy Franklin is probably at the top of the list when it comes to,
1:01:35
uh, you know the kind of player that you would like to add to
1:01:37
this Bills grouping. Just somebody who can stretch the field, who can separate
1:01:40
downfield, who's going to pose a real threat and put fear into defenses.
1:01:46
Troy Franklin is going to be there as well. Oh, Iman's just betting
1:01:50
a thousand with comments you're saying. I think Brendan Rice is going to develop
1:01:52
into a good wide receiver too in the next two seasons, maybe a bit
1:01:55
of a sleeper dude. His dad's name. So I'm so embarrass I'm gonna
1:01:59
SA this year like I had no idea Brandon Rice was Jerry Rice's kid.
1:02:01
I didn't learn that until the Senior Bowl. I don't know how I missed
1:02:04
that. All year, especially was seeing like a ton of pack twelve games,
1:02:07
which is wild. He had a good senior bowl from a release standpoint
1:02:14
and a stem standpoint, he did not finish how I would like him to,
1:02:16
and just at the catch point like this wasn't there consistently, but size
1:02:21
frame using it. I think he'd leaned into his physicality more on day two.
1:02:24
To start day two when they did one on ones, he used that
1:02:29
you know that two hand jam gangster release, you know, the corners up
1:02:31
and pressed and he just comes up the snap chucks him, goes inside on
1:02:35
the slant. He takes a lot of boxes too for that X wide receiver
1:02:38
that size that frame in terms of what you are looking for from a again
1:02:45
size frame, weight height standpoint, that would kind of tick those boxes the
1:02:52
potential X wide receiver. I'd like him to be a better why like better
1:02:59
route run, But I also don't think given his lankiness and how high cut
1:03:06
he is and all those pieces, like, I don't think he's necessarily ever
1:03:08
going to be that guy. But I wouldn't be opposed to that as well,
1:03:12
Chris saying, oh, I gotta stop because we got a super chat.
1:03:14
Carl, thank you very much for being here. Thank you very much
1:03:15
for the super chat, Carl says, if you were being and you took
1:03:19
a wide receiver of picks twenty eight and fifty six, Oh, who do
1:03:22
you expect to be there? And who would you take? Could we get
1:03:24
key on Coleman Xavier Worthy? I don't think. I don't think. I
1:03:32
think Coleman has a better chance of being there at fifty six. I don't
1:03:36
want to add anything else to this question. I just want to answer the
1:03:37
question. I think Coleman would have a better chance of being there at fifty
1:03:42
six than Worthy. There's a chance you could get both if you really wanted
1:03:45
a double tip like that. I don't think Worthy's going to be there at
1:03:49
fifty six. I think Coleman could have a chance to but I feel like
1:03:53
both are probably gone. But you'd have a higher chance of Coleman at fifty
1:03:57
six. I don't even know if Worthy's going to be there at twenty eight,
1:04:00
depending on how the board falls. But that's interesting, especially if they
1:04:02
doubledhibit wide receiver. That could be very, very very interesting. I like
1:04:05
that question. Paul coming in saying, Joe Marino agrees with the Troy Franklin
1:04:10
fit. Yeah, I think you're gonna see a ton of people like,
1:04:12
no disrespect to Joe, He's awesome, But I think you're gonna see a
1:04:15
lot of people like throwing out the Troy Franklin fit thing. I know.
1:04:18
I see people on Twitter who have never watched Troy Franklin play throwing out the
1:04:23
name and being like, man, Troy Franklin would be great for the Bills.
1:04:26
So I think that's kind of the name djor right now for the Bills
1:04:30
community, especially on social media, Like you're gonna see that name a ton
1:04:32
people see speed and are gonna watch two highlights of him flying down the field
1:04:36
and stacking somebody on a go or beating somebody on a post, and they're
1:04:41
gonna be like, man, Troy Franklin to the Bills would be awesome.
1:04:43
So I'm not knocking Joe at all, but everybody there, I know,
1:04:45
everybody and their mother who's just saying Troy Franklin the Bills, Troy Franklin.
1:04:48
I'm also having a real tough time seeing Troy Franklin, So now I'm annoyed
1:04:53
at him biddy being the pick because like the Troy Franklin, I feel like
1:04:55
I'm in a Sally Sells seashells by the sea shore type of scenario. Well,
1:05:00
actually said that pretty dead, but I had to slow it down.
1:05:00
It's tough. Never mind forget that, Chris I did. Forget there you
1:05:04
go, Chris saying, Anthony, what which you think is Cedric Wilson his
1:05:08
free agent depth for the Bills. I watched him. I watched his tape
1:05:12
last year coming out of Dallas before he signed with Miami. I didn't like
1:05:15
his tape. I'm out of Dallas. I wanted to more based on the
1:05:20
production in the stats I saw. I didn't like the tape. And then
1:05:25
just I know the usage that they had in Miami, but just seeing how
1:05:28
he was or kind of wasn't used in Miami. Knowing how good McDaniel is
1:05:32
at scheming wide receivers open and doing all of the kind of really unleashing a
1:05:38
wide receiver's skill set, I'm a bit down on him. I'm not completely
1:05:42
opposed to it, but he's not at the top of my list mainly just
1:05:45
and again it's not just the Miami usage. He was one of the first
1:05:48
guys I started with last year when Eric and I were doing wide receiver free
1:05:54
agent you know, potential wide receiver free agents in the film room last year
1:05:57
and we were breaking down tape. He was one of the first guys I
1:05:59
started with, and I just was not a fan of his tape. I
1:06:02
haven't watched a ton of his tape this year at Miami, but knowing just
1:06:05
how little he was used there, I feel like it doesn't bode well for
1:06:10
what I saw on kind of pairing those two things together. Joe saying,
1:06:15
if the Bills retain Daikwon Jones but simultaneously resign Rap and free agent safety like
1:06:19
Chin, then which position is the bigger need of the two? If they
1:06:25
were to sign Rap and Chin, I'm fine on safety, I would still
1:06:29
like to draft the safety like later potentially, although I don't love this class
1:06:32
top to bottom. I like it more of the top with Kitchens and Nuban
1:06:35
and even Bullard and some of the other guys as well. But I would
1:06:40
say, if the Bills retain Daikwon Jones, resign Rap and Chin, defensive
1:06:45
tackle was still the bigger need because say the Bills stay right there in that
1:06:47
example, right, Chin and Rap can be your two starting safeties or and
1:06:51
also you're keeping Jordan Poyer in this instance, I'm assuming Joe so then you're
1:06:55
looking at the top three of Chin, Poyer, and Rap. I'm fine
1:06:59
with that. Your defensive tackle spot is at Oliver and Daiquon Jones. You
1:07:02
still need another two minimum to have a solid top four for the rotation on
1:07:10
the interior. And on top of that, dayk One, as much as
1:07:14
I love him, he's getting a bit long in the tooth from an age
1:07:15
perspective, so you still kind of want to start to replenish that pipeline.
1:07:18
So I would say defensive tackle is the bigger need in this scenario. And
1:07:23
I see you saying, Yep, keep it poke. Yeah, if the
1:07:25
Bills have Jordan Poyer, Taylor Rapp and Jeremy Chin, I'm okay on safety.
1:07:30
As much as it breaks my cam Kitchens Tyler Nuban loving heart, I
1:07:32
would be okay on safety. Defensive tackle is still the bigger need because you
1:07:35
need because it's more rotation based. The safeties, No, Jinks aren't coming
1:07:41
off the field. If Poyer and Chin are your starters, they're not coming
1:07:45
off the field. But dayk One and Ed Oliver are your starters. You
1:07:48
know you're working in the Tim Suttles of the world that Jordan Phillips is are
1:07:51
the world so on and so forth, So you need that quality depth at
1:07:56
more than just your starters on the interior. So yeah, absolutely, defensive
1:07:59
tackle would be the bigger need. John coming in and saying, my son
1:08:02
is a huge Oregon fan swears by Troy Franklin. Yeah, I mean if
1:08:05
I was an Oregon fan, I would. I'm swearing by him and Ted
1:08:09
Johnson and Bucky Irving just because of how much they bawled out like. They're
1:08:14
explosive. They're fun to watch, especially if you're watching highlights. Right,
1:08:17
And I'm not kno goning to anybody wh watches highlights. I don't think it's
1:08:19
the way to scalp. But if you're watching highlights, cool, you go
1:08:24
and turn on. You go to YouTube and type in Troy Franklin. He's
1:08:27
probably got a five minute highlight tape and it's full of tons of like fifty
1:08:30
and sixty yard catches and it's just him running down field, separating wide open
1:08:33
catch after catch like he's a sexy player like with what he does. So
1:08:38
it makes complete sense. And Oregon was fun as hell to watch this year
1:08:41
with everything they did from an explosive standpoint. False bills are electric old the
1:08:48
mead. He's a kiyas. I can say that name every single day of
1:08:51
the week. Matt Easy. I actually watched him coming out of Atlanta.
1:08:58
Didn't like him as much as I wanted to. I looked at him similar
1:09:00
to the Cedric Wilson conversation. I looked at him a little bit last year
1:09:02
as a potential target for the Bills. Didn't love him. Wouldn't be opposed
1:09:06
to him because they know he's got some speed and get get downfield. But
1:09:11
he more of the Trent Surefield type of signing. He's not somebody that I'm
1:09:15
looking at as a wide receiver two or a true impact player at the wide
1:09:18
receiver position this year. But yeah, all the meat, he's the key
1:09:20
is how dare you? But I like where he's say, Tavandre Sweat is
1:09:28
very fun. Actually, let's just get into the defensive com defensive line conversation
1:09:32
because I'm seeing comments coming through and I'm just going to get into that part
1:09:38
of the conversation here, so we'll continue with the off season priorities conversation here.
1:09:42
Actually, I feel like I'm about to cough against Let me take a
1:09:44
drink. I know you folks watching can see me drinking the water. But
1:09:50
those in the audio only I don't say it. They're just gonna hear a
1:09:54
gap and be like, oh, do the episode like short out? So
1:09:57
defensive line I let off with wide receiver. Obviously a hot button topic of
1:10:00
conversations, seeing as all the comments and everything they came through for it.
1:10:04
Defensive line is my biggest off season priority for the Buffalo Bills, and I
1:10:09
hate saying it because I know how many people hate that answer. With all
1:10:15
the resources that have been allocated to the defensive line over and over and over
1:10:20
going back for however many years, like the Quinton Jefferson's of the world and
1:10:24
the Mario Addisons, and year after year, it just seems like so many
1:10:29
resources in the draft and in free agencies and or they're just allocated toward the
1:10:34
defensive line. So I know this is an answer that nobody really wants to
1:10:38
hear, and it's a conversations people don't really want to have. But it's
1:10:41
dire with the defensive line. I've talked about it a little in the film,
1:10:45
I've talked about a little here, but I really wanted to dive into
1:10:46
it here. When it comes to the off season priority. So right now,
1:10:50
under twenty twenty four contract for the defensive line from the Buffalo Bills,
1:10:56
You've got across the entire defensive line, Oh sorry, across the defensive line,
1:11:00
Von Miller, ed Oliver, greg Russoe, Ileanku, Kingsley, Jonathan,
1:11:04
and Cameron Klein. You've got three edges and three defensive tackles right now.
1:11:10
And your three edges are von Miller, Greg Russoe, Kingsley, Jonathan.
1:11:14
Your three defensive tackles ed Oliver, Ilianku and Cameron Klein. The following
1:11:19
defensive lineman from twenty twenty three are current UFAs for the Buffalo Bills. Linval,
1:11:25
Joseph Daikwan Jones, Jordan Phillips, Kendall Vickers, Tim Settle, Leonard
1:11:30
Floyd, Shaq Lawson, Poona Ford aj At Panessa. That is a loss
1:11:35
of two thousand, eight hundred and sixty three snaps out of the four thousand,
1:11:41
seven hundred and thirty two snaps for defensive linemen in twenty twenty three.
1:11:45
Percentage Wise, you are losing sixty point five percent of your defensive line snaps
1:11:49
for twenty twenty three. There is a lot to fill when it comes to
1:11:55
the Bills defensive line, and because there is so much to fill. It's
1:12:00
my top priority for this offseason because the amount of bodies you need and the
1:12:04
mix of starters plus depth that you need. If you're just looking at everything
1:12:09
right now, even if you wanted to like your best case scenario, even
1:12:14
if you think Von is going to get back to being Von and he's gonna
1:12:15
be like Edge one, even if everybody hit like Vaughn is gonna go back
1:12:19
to being Edge one. Groot is grout, Kingsley Jonathan is going to be
1:12:21
a solid Edge three. Cool, you only have three edges. You still
1:12:25
need more the defensive tackles. Ed Oliver had a strong year last year.
1:12:29
Cool, you bank on that again, Ilonkul you think, cool, he
1:12:30
can be a third or fourth dude in the rotation, solid run stuff for
1:12:34
maybe he upticks his passers pop, but you think he's a solid role player.
1:12:38
Cool. And then you're looking at Cameron Cline thinking, you know he
1:12:41
can be a defensive tackle, defensive end hybrid. Maybe he kicks into edge
1:12:44
more, maybe he's gonna be useful. Even if all six of these guys
1:12:46
hit, it's still six. You have six guys. That's it problem.
1:12:53
But when you factor him in the quality and the actual on field production,
1:12:56
that's where the conversation becomes a little more dire. For me. Let's start
1:12:59
with von Miller. A lot of ways he could go. My expectation for
1:13:03
von Miller and I don't think I don't think this is setting the bar too
1:13:10
high, but my expectation for von Miller in twenty twenty four is to be
1:13:13
edge three. I think there's a chance he could become a starter again.
1:13:16
I think he showed more flashes down the stretch than people noticed. I thought
1:13:24
there were some encouraging reps from him, mainly just from a movement perspective,
1:13:27
watching him show a little more juice, a little more burst, watching him
1:13:30
plant and cut and drive and push off of that knee, watching some of
1:13:34
the spin moves, watching some of the timing and things come back. I
1:13:39
think it's fair to have higher hopes for von Miller than I potentially am.
1:13:45
I think it's fine to hang your hat on some of the flash and think
1:13:50
that with a full off season under his belt that isn't filled with rehab,
1:13:54
just a regular offseason, I think it's fine to hope and expect for him
1:13:57
to be like a starting level edge player. My expectation for him is to
1:14:01
be Edge three. I think he comes back as a solid, rotational guy.
1:14:05
I think his flashes increased, I think his baseline and or floor production
1:14:10
increases. But I don't think he's gonna get back to that vond level that
1:14:13
he was in twenty twenty two before he got hurt. Even if he hadn't
1:14:15
got hurt, I don't know if he's gonna be that guy. Like they
1:14:18
signed him to this contract to be an impact player in twenty twenty two and
1:14:24
twenty twenty three. Everything else after that was kind of like, well,
1:14:28
if it works out, cool, if not, whatever. They were trying
1:14:30
to really crack that window and break it open in twenty twenty two and in
1:14:35
twenty twenty three. Obviously Vonn got hurt in the backup of twenty twenty two
1:14:40
was still working back in twenty twenty three, so kind that came out in
1:14:42
the wash and was not great. So I don't even if everything worked out
1:14:44
in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three, I don't know what kind of
1:14:47
von Miller you were gonna get at this point with the miles on the tires
1:14:49
for him. So, just from a baseline perspective, I think he'll be
1:14:54
Edge three in twenty twenty four, which for the purposes of this exercise means
1:14:59
you, Greg Russo, is your top edge on the depth chart, which
1:15:01
means at the very least you need another starting edge. Greg Russo talked about
1:15:06
a munch on the show shown in the film room. Is elite, elite,
1:15:11
elite as a run defender, legitimately one of the best defensive line run
1:15:15
defenders in the league. And then especially for edges, is one of the
1:15:17
best run defenders at edge in the entire league. He's still putting things together
1:15:23
as a pass rusher. And I know again, like I mentioned earlier,
1:15:25
he was banged up this year. Having like a banged up ankle in foot
1:15:28
is very much less than ideal considering his build and his frame. Really for
1:15:30
anybody in football or any support where your legs are important, but especially for
1:15:33
his build and frame. I don't like the idea of him as Edge one
1:15:39
from a pass rush perspective. I'm fine if that's the way it has to
1:15:43
be, but I don't love the idea of him as Edge one from a
1:15:45
pass rush perspective. I like, I love him as an edge two,
1:15:48
pairing him with a real pass rusher with pop off the edge. So again,
1:15:53
for me, Ivon is edge three and he's a solid rotational guy.
1:15:59
Groot is your number two, or you're kind of de facto one. Ideally,
1:16:03
the other starting edge opposite of Greg Russoe, has some pass rush pop
1:16:08
to him. So if you're looking at the top four right now, or
1:16:12
just let's just say top three based on the conversation we've had, you're looking
1:16:15
at Greg Russoe in addition, either free agency or the draft and Von Miller,
1:16:19
those are your top three. You still need an edge four. You
1:16:25
still need probably a fifth and maybe a six just for reps and depth to
1:16:30
compete with Kingsley, Jonathan and or Cameron Klein, depending on if you view
1:16:32
him if they're going to move him defensive end, because I know he's gotten
1:16:35
some reps there, so we'll see what that happens. So minimum, you're
1:16:39
looking at adding three edge players, two of which are going to function in
1:16:42
your top four, and one of which is going to be receiving quote unquote
1:16:45
starter reps alongside Greg Russoe. That would put you at six edge rushers on
1:16:50
the roster. So at a bare minimum, bare minimum, you need to
1:16:55
add three edge rushers this offseason. Now let's go to the interior defensive line
1:17:00
of at Oliver, legitimate starter, very strong twenty twenty three. I've talked
1:17:02
about the metrics. I've shown the metrics, we've shown the tape. Talked
1:17:05
about the tape, tremendous twenty twenty three. Yes, I'm also aware that
1:17:11
he had a very horrible division round, Divisional round against the Chiefs. Joe
1:17:14
Tooney ate him up and had him in hell. The entirety of that game
1:17:17
very unfortunate, But at Oliver's legitimate starter. He had a very strong twenty
1:17:21
twenty three. It's unfortunate how his season ended in terms of performance, along
1:17:27
with the bill season ending against the Kansas City Chiefs, but at Oliver legitimate
1:17:31
starter. After at Oliver, you've got more bottom tier depth of Ilianku and
1:17:38
Cameron Client again, Cameron Clin. Depending on how you view him, edge,
1:17:41
defensive tackle, whatever, I'm putting him in the defensive tackle boat for
1:17:43
now because that's how he's listed. It is what it is. Ilonku.
1:17:46
I like what he's done against the run, he's played in spurts. I
1:17:49
like what he did last year against Baltimore in the regular season. I like
1:17:53
what he's done in the preseason. I don't think he's ready to be a
1:17:57
regular top four or top five rotational guy on the interior. So just looking
1:18:01
at the interior right now, and again it's even worse. Even if you
1:18:04
want to move Climb back to the defensive end and moving to edge cool,
1:18:06
you're looking at at Oliver and Ileanku. Regardless of how you slice it,
1:18:10
at a minimum, you need a starting one tech and you need two more
1:18:15
rotational pieces to give you a solid top four to work with. So you
1:18:18
already need to add three bodies on the interior because you've got at Oliver.
1:18:21
Then you need the starting one tech, and then I think you need two
1:18:24
other top rotational dudes to give you that solid top four. So you need
1:18:29
three bodies just from that perspective alone. Then again for just bare minimum conversation,
1:18:34
let's say you have to add another two for depth and competition with Ilianku,
1:18:39
And depending on how you view Cameron client, maybe even you need to
1:18:42
add three. But again just for Devil's advocates sake and conversation purposes, at
1:18:45
a bare minimum, you need to add five interior defensive linemen, three of
1:18:50
which are going to be important to your defense. One is going to be
1:18:56
a starter and receive starter reps. The other two are going to be solid.
1:19:00
In that rotation. You basically need to add I'm not saying add these
1:19:04
players. You basically need a Daikwon Jones, a Jordan Phillips, and a
1:19:09
Tim Seddle, or a Daikwon Jones, a Tym Sedtle and a poon of
1:19:12
Ford. You need three more top rotational pieces. You need a legitimate starter
1:19:17
and two solid rotational guys just off of that basic and then you need more
1:19:21
for depth, anywhere from two to three bodies. But again, just for
1:19:25
a bare minimum's sake, you need to add five interior defensive linemen. So
1:19:29
all in all, bare minimum, you need eight defensive lineman additions between free
1:19:33
agency and the draft. Again, i went three for edge five for the
1:19:38
interior defensive line, and that's that's the same bare minimum. And that's also
1:19:44
not even factoring in the level and quality of the additions that you bring in.
1:19:48
I'm not even talking about this guy needs to be great, and you
1:19:50
need to bring in a starter of this capacity and this skill set. I'm
1:19:54
just talking about basic bodies just to fill out the roster bare minimum need eight
1:20:00
defensive line additions. Between free agency and the draft, when you start to
1:20:04
factor in the level and the quality of the players that you bring in,
1:20:09
that's when things get a little more worrisome. And that opens up a whole
1:20:13
nother conversation with anticipated cost and cap space and contracts and so on and so
1:20:16
forth. And I don't want to get too much into cap work right now.
1:20:20
I talked about it before. That's going to be for the salary cap
1:20:23
spec tackler, and I don't want to bog more of this schematic conversation with
1:20:28
numbers in math. But with the anticipated cost and cap space, you're probably
1:20:32
looking at the additions for the defensive line definitely coming in the draft. And
1:20:38
then I would expect like multiple one year or two year deals in free agency.
1:20:42
They could be legitimate two year deals like a Timsettle, or they could
1:20:45
be a one year deal with avoid year like Leonard Floyd. And if they
1:20:48
get those, say you get those one of those two year deals, and
1:20:51
that's how they choose to round out this defensive line grouping. This is what's
1:20:56
also troublesome with me for the defensive line grouping and why I think this is
1:20:59
such a big priority as well. I think there's going to be a handful
1:21:02
of one and two year deals on the defensive line. But if you get
1:21:04
that, we're back to having a very similar conversation next offseason and the one
1:21:11
after. They are going to continue to have to churn out this defensive line
1:21:15
grouping year and in the year out. I put out a mock draft earlier
1:21:16
today, just top three. And also I want to preface this to disclaimer,
1:21:19
and I said in the tweet, mock drafts are useless until free agency
1:21:24
happens because team needs are going to change so drastically. But if I have
1:21:27
time to kill and I'm just chilling, like waiting for something, I'm like,
1:21:29
I'll do a quick mock draft. It could not have worked out better,
1:21:32
Bettle better, Yikes for me. I got Byron Murphy in the first
1:21:36
round defensive tackle from Texas. I got Cam Kinchens safety from Miami in the
1:21:42
second round, and they got Javon Baker, wide receiver from UCF in the
1:21:44
third. There's no way it works out like that. But I say that
1:21:47
to say this defensive line is going to be a premium important position for this
1:21:54
team. You need not only do you need bodies, you need high function
1:22:00
quality bodies, and you also need control and term and cost effective production on
1:22:06
that position grouping, which is why I think defensive line in the first round.
1:22:11
As much as it's going to annoy the hell out of everybody, I
1:22:13
really think it makes a lot of sense. If I'm Murphy from Texas falls
1:22:16
to twenty eight, I'm throwing that pick in there off a one thousand percent
1:22:19
every single time, even over Cam Kitchens and Tyler Numan, who I love.
1:22:25
I just don't think Murphy's gonna fall, especially after him pulling out of
1:22:27
the Senior Bowl. He got winn from his agent or from somebody of them
1:22:30
talking about, hey man, you don't need to be here. You're gonna
1:22:33
be like a top half of the first round type of pick. Don't even
1:22:35
sweat it, like no pun intended with Devandre sweat like you don't need to
1:22:39
do this. He pulled out last minute because of it. And again I
1:22:45
said it before we started this segment of the episode. I know this is
1:22:48
frustrating for so many people. I even see it with those are electure right
1:22:50
now saying so to stop Mahomes. We need to pour assets into the defensive
1:22:54
line and then aside. And it seems like this is the conversation every year,
1:22:57
and I know so many people just want to go full glass Scannon and
1:23:00
say, no, let's load up on weapons at wide receiver. And you
1:23:04
know, we got Dalton Kincaid and depending on how you feel, abou Dawson
1:23:08
Knox. But you got Kincaid, You've got James Cook, You've got Stefan
1:23:10
Diggs, You've got a good offensive line. Now let's load up on weapons
1:23:14
and try and score forty points a game. With Josh Allen, I just
1:23:17
think, don't think it's gonna happen with this team one. Like we talked
1:23:20
about a couple of times on this show, being in McDermott. Both believe
1:23:24
in the same team building philosophy. You start from the trenches, and when
1:23:27
you talk about the defense, you start from the defensive line out. And
1:23:30
there's so many holes on this defensive line. Again, I'm not even getting
1:23:33
into the part of the conversation of you know, quality and scheme, fit
1:23:39
and skill set. I'm just talking bare minimum bodies, Like they just don't
1:23:43
have the bodies. If you look at the wide receiver grouping right now,
1:23:45
the grouping we just came off of that we talked about the first segment of
1:23:48
this episode. We were talking about, you know, scheme fit and skill
1:23:51
set and what you're looking for and roll and all of these pieces. But
1:23:56
you could still put a wide receiver grouping together. Right now. You've got
1:24:00
one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.
1:24:02
You've got eight wide receivers on the roster and under contract for twenty twenty
1:24:06
four. Now it's not going to be fun and it's not gonna be sexy
1:24:10
because you've got Stefan Diggs. Your top three are going to be Steffan Diggs,
1:24:13
Deontay Hardy, and Khaliosha Kiir. And then you're looking at kJ Hammler,
1:24:15
Justin Shorter, Andy Isabelle at Tyrol Shavers, and Brian Thompson. But
1:24:19
just from a body's perspective, you can have a full wide receiver room.
1:24:25
The Bills don't have a full defensive line room at all. You've got three
1:24:29
edges and three defensive tackles. Again, depending on how you list Cameron Klein,
1:24:32
I saw what Chris said earlier. He had dependent on what sit you're
1:24:36
looking at, he's listed a defensive tackle, defensive end. I don't care.
1:24:40
I don't necessarily think he's gonna be a functional part. And just for
1:24:42
the sake of this argument, cool, however you want to classify him.
1:24:45
You're looking at six defensive linemen under contract for twenty twenty four, So just
1:24:49
from a body's perspective, you don't have enough to put a team together.
1:24:55
Even if all of those bodies hit. Even if you were looking at six
1:24:58
all pros, you're still going to have to add to the defensive line.
1:25:01
Like put that into perspective, even if all six of those dudes were all
1:25:05
pros, that's still not enough for a game day rotation on the defensive line.
1:25:11
You still would need to add to the defensive line. But all six
1:25:15
of those guys are not all pros. One of them is Von Miller with
1:25:17
significant question marks. One of them is Jonathan Kingsley or Kingsley Jonathan, who's
1:25:21
we still don't really know what he is. Then you've got ilionco and Cameron
1:25:25
Klein. So you don't have six all pros, and even if you did,
1:25:28
you would need to add to that position grouping. But because you don't,
1:25:30
you have to add even more from a quality and a talent perspective.
1:25:34
This is my biggest offseason priority, and there's going to be so much movement
1:25:39
that's going to happen here. Again, I anticipate a lot of one to
1:25:41
two year deals in free agency, but I wouldn't be surprised if at the
1:25:45
end of the first round if Byron Murphy was somehow there. I would love
1:25:48
that pick. I don't think he's going to be there. But if they
1:25:50
went with a Darius Robinson from Missouri, well, it sounds like we're screwed.
1:26:00
I mean, it's not great, but this is funny too, Joe
1:26:03
saying here an ant talk about the d line is making It's making me feel
1:26:09
the way I did when I first found out about what warming. I like
1:26:14
that. That's making me caugh well played, well played. Yeah, I
1:26:19
feel like I'm in like the war room and I'm Dennis Quaid in the day
1:26:25
after Tomorrow and you're all the people where that are like, well, when
1:26:27
is the storm coming? I'm like tomorrow. Yeah, not great. And
1:26:30
again it's a conversation that I know people don't want to have, like it's
1:26:34
annoying. It's annoying the year after year be like, what are they doing
1:26:39
on the defensive line. What are they doing on the defensive line? Hey,
1:26:41
what about the defensive line? But it has to happen this year.
1:26:44
And again, just just from a body's perspective, they do not have enough
1:26:47
bodies to have a functional defensive line in the NFL. Just off of that,
1:26:54
then it gets even more dire because now it's not just like you don't
1:26:58
have enough bodies just to feel squad. That's not even taking into consideration quality,
1:27:03
talent, scheme, fit all of these pieces. So Jordan's saying,
1:27:10
So what I'm hearing is there's no chance to give up all of our draft
1:27:12
picks to go get Marvin Harrison. I mean you could. And then again,
1:27:15
maybe you score fifty points a game and defense doesn't matter and you win
1:27:18
every game like fifty to thirty five, which is possible. No rj ARGI
1:27:23
justas screw it. Let's play three three five on defense? How dare you
1:27:26
get out of here with that stack? We're not doing that? How dare
1:27:29
you? I know you're kidding, But Chris sat Anthony, what do you
1:27:32
think about the defensive tackle on Newton? Oh? Yeah, John Newton from
1:27:38
Illinois. Haven't watched him this year? Watched him and Keith Randolph on Illinois
1:27:43
last offseason. I haven't done defensive tackle work for the draft, get aside
1:27:46
from Byron Murphy and from Devandre Sweat and my Senior Bowl prep, but I've
1:27:53
heard a bunch of good things on Newton and again, I like this tape
1:27:55
last year, him and Keith Randolph. I liked a bunch last year,
1:27:57
both dudes from Illinois, so I'm hoping the tape will look nice again.
1:28:02
I know he's been mocked to the Bills by a couple people, I think,
1:28:08
but I wouldn't be surprised if the Bills went defensive line in the first
1:28:10
round again, just because of the need. We know how, And this
1:28:14
isn't even I'm saying I would like. I wouldn't be opposed to them doing
1:28:16
it, and I'd like them to do it. Given again, where we
1:28:18
sit right now, there are going to be additions in free agency before we
1:28:24
get to the draft, right So it's not going to be like as these
1:28:28
are just the only six dudes on the defensive line come draft time. They're
1:28:30
gonna do something in free agency. But I'm saying all that just to say
1:28:34
it's gonna get work like even if, being a McDermott didn't believe in building
1:28:40
from the defensive line out, even if they had six all pros already on
1:28:44
the roster, even if everything was sunshine and rainbows and perfect, they would
1:28:48
still have to add to the defensive line. But it's not sunshine and rainbows.
1:28:51
Being a McDermott believe wholeheartedly in building from the defensive line out. The
1:28:56
defensive line is going to get a ton of work in free agency and the
1:28:59
draft. And when it comes to free agency, because of the money that
1:29:01
they have, I would anticipate a lot of one in two year deals.
1:29:05
I don't think you know, in before anybody's like, what about Brian Burns.
1:29:10
I don't think Miran Burns is coming to Buffalo, Man, that would
1:29:14
be awesome. Corey Saye, is the Knox contract tradeable? No, next
1:29:19
offseason, they're the dead cap hit is significantly down. I actually you know
1:29:24
why I'm even saying that. Let me just go stuff being lazy and just
1:29:27
go check on that right now. Tight end tight end Dawson Knox. No,
1:29:38
if yeah, this year, if he is cut or traded, doesn't
1:29:43
matter, cut or traded pre or well, actually some of the pre and
1:29:47
post stuff, Uh, not working. I'll just read them all off.
1:29:50
If he gets released before June first, it's a dead cap hit a twenty
1:29:54
million. If he gets traded before June first, it's a dead cap of
1:29:57
eleven point seven million. If he it's released after June first, it is
1:30:02
a dead cap hit of twenty point three million roughly. If he gets traded
1:30:06
after June first, it's a dead cap hit of eleven point seven So,
1:30:12
no matter how you slice it, he's got a significant dead cap hit.
1:30:14
Next year, his dead cap hit is only seven point eight million pre impost
1:30:20
stuff, so that's a lot better when you're looking at it. But no,
1:30:24
Dawson Knox isn't going anywhere just because of the contract. Oh, Braidon
1:30:27
Fisk, solid week at the Senior Bowl, very solid week at the Senior
1:30:30
Bowl, somebody who myself and Er Turner both like we talked about him last
1:30:33
week. I'm sure he'll come up on the film room a bunch. But
1:30:38
yeah, Braiden Fisk is an option there as well. But yeah, it's
1:30:43
man, it's it's dire to a degree, but it's frustrating as well,
1:30:51
Like again, to know how many resources they pull, to know that like
1:30:56
Boogie Basham didn't work out when they double dipped with him and Rousseau to see
1:31:00
the injuries that they had to Von Miller like this, this grouping looks so
1:31:03
different right now. If bash and panned out and von Miller didn't get hurt,
1:31:10
then you have like a solid top three. You're like, okay,
1:31:12
cool boogie group and Von Sweet Let's like add somewhere else. We gotta add
1:31:17
like one more edge, maybe two. We'll see what happens. YadA YadA.
1:31:21
Yeah, it's a position grouping then again is going to need attention.
1:31:25
I don't think this should surprise anyone knowing being in McDermott's philosophy and again just
1:31:30
kind of laying out what they have and that's why I wanted to put that
1:31:32
respect and again and now to get into some of the skill set conversation.
1:31:38
Like I mentioned, so you need that prototypical one tech at Oliver is that
1:31:42
three tech. So you need that one tech, that person who's lining up
1:31:45
on the inside shoulder of the guard most times, and those four to three
1:31:48
overfronts. Somebody who can withstand double teams, hold strong at the point of
1:31:54
attack, take on those double teams, drop the knee, reduce your surface
1:31:57
area split, but also get up field, get penetration work some stunts,
1:32:01
be able to play off of at Oliver. You're looking for Daikwon Jones or
1:32:04
Daikwon Jones's skill set, frame type, all that kind of stuff. That's
1:32:10
what you're looking for at that one tech piece. The rotational spots on the
1:32:13
interior can vary. You know, maybe you go more of like an undersized
1:32:17
guys or three or your four. But I think when you're looking at the
1:32:21
defensive tackle spot again, you're you're looking at at Oliver and a Daikwon Jones
1:32:27
type. As you're one in your two and then with three and four,
1:32:30
I think you're just looking for guys who kind of do a little bit of
1:32:32
everything or maybe more of a niche role, but they're going to have to
1:32:34
spend resources in order to get that. And we know how this front likes
1:32:38
to attack. We know they're a one gap penetrating front. So you're looking
1:32:42
for guys who can own their gap, who can leverage their gap, good
1:32:45
hand usage, good leverage, the ability to get upfield. You're looking for
1:32:50
quickness, even if they do have size, like guys like Linval Joseph were
1:32:55
really kind of outliers in terms of what they look like on the interior.
1:32:59
So you're looking for guys again quickness one, gaping, penetrating, aggressive,
1:33:02
front facing upfield type of action from your interior players, especially from a death
1:33:08
perspective on the edge pocket compressors. But if you are looking for for me,
1:33:15
if von Miller's gonna be edge three, I think you need you need
1:33:17
like another Leonard Floyd type to be brought in to rush opposite of Greg Russou.
1:33:23
I don't think Greg Russou is there yet as a pass rusher where he
1:33:26
can be your true edge one where he's the guy double teams have to go
1:33:31
to, or if he's one on one he's winning, like that was Leonard
1:33:34
Floyd last year where he was just owning everywhere, especially the early in the
1:33:38
early part of the year. And so if Vn is edged three, Groot
1:33:43
is edge two, that means you need to bring in a one or another
1:33:45
two who has a pass rush specialty. Like if Greg Russeau is one of
1:33:49
your starters and von isn't the other, your other starter needs to their dial
1:33:56
has to be turned up more. From a pass rush standpoint in order to
1:33:59
pair well with Gregor or so. And then if you're looking at edge four,
1:34:01
you're looking for that ag Apanessa type, or maybe you're looking for another
1:34:05
shock loss in, somebody who can really set the edge that can be more
1:34:09
niche down in more in more of that role. But yeah, man,
1:34:14
there's a lot of movement and shaken to happen with this defensive line grouping.
1:34:16
But you know, I think I think Being knew this, and I'm here
1:34:21
with you, Brian saying, you know, really hoping Von is back to
1:34:24
being at least solid. Yeah, I would like that. Roy says,
1:34:27
do you think Being uses the fifth year option on group? I would think
1:34:30
so, considering how good he's been against the run, and he's not a
1:34:32
bad pass rusher. I just don't think he's there to be a true number
1:34:38
one off the edge from a pass rush perspective, But considering how good he
1:34:41
is against the run and how good enough he is as a pass rusher,
1:34:43
yeah, I think he uses that fifth year option. Last position group that
1:34:47
I want to talk about from a priority standpoint, So I have a top
1:34:50
three. Again, we went with wide receiver first, but that's not my
1:34:55
number one defensive line is the number one, And if I don't even know
1:34:58
how to rank edge and defensive tackle, I think they're both equally worrisome.
1:35:00
So defensive line is number one priority. Wide receiver I think is probably two.
1:35:05
Number three is safety. They should not be surprised to anybody who watches
1:35:10
this show. Under contract for twenty twenty four what you have right now for
1:35:13
the Buffalo Bills at the safety position. You've got Jordan Poyer, DeMar Hamlin,
1:35:16
Kenda Williamson. So you've got three players at safety under contract for twenty
1:35:20
twenty four. Now, I don't think anybody saw, but I held up
1:35:24
four. I don't know why held up for seven three. So you have
1:35:26
three players under contract. Now. A key point here for mister Jordan Poyer.
1:35:31
He could be cut and the Bills could save five point five million dollars
1:35:35
and have a dead cap hit of two, So he is a potential cut
1:35:40
candidate. I don't think he gets cut as Bills are electedly says safety cupboard,
1:35:45
as Bear Joe comes in and says safety, I know what a shock.
1:35:49
I don't think Poyer gets cut because of what the safety landscape looks like
1:35:57
and what he's meant to this team. But given the need to have have
1:36:00
money in salary cap space, I wouldn't be surprised if Poyer got cut.
1:36:04
But let's just say Poyer stays right cool at a minimum, bare minimum,
1:36:10
just like we did for the defensive line at a bare minimum. Right now,
1:36:12
you need another starter to play opposite of Jordan Poyer. I don't know
1:36:15
what's happening with Micah Hyde. I think he's gonna retire again. He's a
1:36:20
UFA right now. Sorry, I had to take a drink there, but
1:36:29
I'm gonna get into more of that conversation in a minute with what you need
1:36:30
from that safety grouping. Hope's actually they made to myself. So as of
1:36:36
right now, again, at a minimum, you need another starter. I
1:36:40
personally would like that done via the draft. My hope is Camp Kitchens Tyler
1:36:46
Newman, I continuing, I'm going to continue to speak that into existence until
1:36:50
they become a Buffalo Bill's reality again. My hope would be Byron Murphy,
1:36:55
the defensive tackle from Texas. I just don't think he has any shot of
1:36:57
being there at twenty eight. I think he goes and probably the top twenty
1:37:00
or it or it's the top twenty five and with the needs that they have
1:37:03
elsewhere. I would consider a trade up for Bier Murphy if he was still
1:37:06
there at like twenty four to twenty five. We're getting off track. But
1:37:09
again, safety minimum right now, you need another starter minimum. I would
1:37:15
like that to be Cam Kitchens. I would like that to be Tyler Nuban
1:37:17
safety one and one A, one B, one A, however you want
1:37:20
to label it. I think they're both tremendous, some of the best safeties
1:37:25
that we've seen in the draft in a couple of years now. Free agency
1:37:30
is also an option. Last show, I talked about Jeremy Chin and I
1:37:32
talked about Kyle Dugger. I think Kyle Dugger could potentially fit monetarily, but
1:37:41
I doubt it so. And even within this right like that safety conversation,
1:37:46
like I think Dugger would be awesome, but I think he's going to be
1:37:49
too priced out. And even with Chin, who I'm going to talk about
1:37:51
in a minute, like you could go with one of those guys, or
1:37:54
the Bills could go with the diamond in the rough route like they did years
1:37:57
ago with Hide and Ployer, or you could go with a veteran prove it
1:38:00
type of deal like they did with Taylor Rapp last year, depending on how
1:38:03
the market shakes out, right, I talked about Jeremy Chin, las show
1:38:06
him and continue to talk about him. He's someone who I've always had my
1:38:10
eye on since he came out several years ago. I've talked about it on
1:38:14
Twitter. I'm sure we'll talk about it more as the off season goes on,
1:38:15
but I'll set the table with it now. Briefly, Chin's usage the
1:38:20
last couple of years, so twenty twenty two, he still saw like regular
1:38:24
safety snaps like you'd see for Poyer, like you'd see for Hide, all
1:38:27
that kind of stuff. Last year he had an injury. He had an
1:38:30
injury in twenty twenty two as well twenty twenty two hamstring or a quad strain,
1:38:35
and then twenty twenty three the opposite, so two soft muscle injuries or
1:38:41
soft tissue injuries back back years. He was on the IR in twenty twenty
1:38:44
two and in twenty twenty three. But in twenty twenty three, Chin's usage
1:38:48
was not as you know, you're, the traditional safety that you normally see.
1:38:53
He was used as more of a box player, more of like a
1:38:55
big nickel apex defender type. Did not really see safety snaps, which is
1:39:00
interesting. So I went back to So I watched someone with his twenty twenty
1:39:03
three tape. You still see the speed, the juice, the physicality,
1:39:05
all that kind of stuff. I went back to his twenty twenty two tape.
1:39:08
I posted actually a clip on Twitter before I went live here on the
1:39:11
show of him being in a split field safety look pre snap. On the
1:39:15
snap, Crystal Labba comes from his side. They're playing the Saints. A
1:39:17
Lave runs a post, chin opens up outside, a Lave cuts it inside.
1:39:24
Chin just speed turns, stays on top of it. Is stride for
1:39:27
stride with Crystal Labba, who's tremendously fast, and he follows him downfield.
1:39:30
I would like a better play on the ball, but the point is he
1:39:32
has the juice, he has the range to still do that. Again,
1:39:34
this was twenty twenty two, but I don't think that juice are ranged lessened
1:39:39
in twenty twenty three. So between the injuries the past two years, which
1:39:45
are also concerning, right, like, you don't want to take a guy
1:39:47
who has this. I'm wary of guys who have who consistently have soft muscle
1:39:53
type of injuries. It's different than a guy who broke his leg and then
1:39:57
broke his hand. Like sometimes things are fluky the way Tank Dell got hurt,
1:40:00
right, Like, that's a flukey type injury, like it could happen
1:40:02
to anyone. It's not indicative of him being like soft or like wearing down,
1:40:06
like dude got caught in the wrong place at the right time. It
1:40:09
is what it is. But guys who continuously have like soft muscle jes,
1:40:12
especially back to back years, that's worrisome for me. So I think that's
1:40:16
a fair thing that might want to scare you off from Jeremy Chin if you're
1:40:19
the Buffalo Bills, or it might scare him off enough from other teams that
1:40:24
he comes in a little cheaper to the Bills. And when you pair that
1:40:27
injury history with some of the usage, maybe teams are scared off in general.
1:40:30
Listen, this guy got moved down to the apex and box type of
1:40:34
role. Maybe he can't play deep. I think when you watch the tape
1:40:38
you'll see that he still can. But between the usage and the injury history,
1:40:45
I think there's an opportunity for Chin to fit into the Buffalo Bills model.
1:40:48
Based on price, I think he could be a guy that is not
1:40:50
going to break the bank. I think, ironically he could be in that
1:40:54
mold of a Jordan Poyer type of signing when Poyer came over from the Browns,
1:40:59
different circumstances, But I think Chin could be somebody who is somewhat cost
1:41:03
effective. I don't think he's going to come in on a Taylor Rapp type
1:41:06
of deal and come in at like two million dollars, like one year two
1:41:09
mil, or like two years two million, something like that, but I
1:41:13
think he'll be cheaper than Dougar. I think you have the opportunity to add
1:41:15
somebody like a Jeremy Chin, regardless of who they add. I think the
1:41:19
safety position needs more juice. Hide and Poyer unfortunately looked their age more often
1:41:26
than not. In twenty twenty three, I think the wear and the tear
1:41:29
started to show more. Now again, you have the opportunity to cut Jordan
1:41:33
Poyer. Like I said, you could cut him and save five point five
1:41:35
million with the dead cap hit of two. But even if you keep po
1:41:41
you need a starter opposite of him with range. You need a player that
1:41:45
is capable of being a single high post safety and who can run sideline to
1:41:48
sideline. Getting two new safeties isn't completely out of the question again, and
1:41:54
I think that's the possibility given the cap savings you could have by cutting Jordan
1:41:59
Poyer. But cutting Poyer you already have a hole with safety because Heide is
1:42:04
gone. If you cut Poyer, it forces your hand a little more and
1:42:08
then creates a hole with Poyer that you then have to go out and fill.
1:42:12
So you end up creating a hole that you have to fill, like
1:42:15
right away, I'm okay with Taylor Rapp coming back. I like the way
1:42:19
he played last year, even though a bunch of people were really ragging on
1:42:23
him, like NonStop at certain points and wanting Cam Lewis over, in which
1:42:26
I never understood. I'm okay with Taylor Rapp coming back, although again I
1:42:30
would like more range in a starting safety. But I do like some of
1:42:34
what he brings. I think he's fine. It's in two high alignments,
1:42:38
especially. I don't think he has that range a single high safety that I
1:42:41
would like, And I think there is some positional redundancy with a RAP and
1:42:47
a Poyer. I think Jordan Poyer, with how he's been, you know,
1:42:54
I think he's moving more towards a quote unquote strong safety role. And
1:42:58
I think Rap in that boat as well. This is something I'm gonna touch
1:43:01
on in a minute, but I'm okay with Rap coming back. The good
1:43:05
news is the safety market last year was an ideal for many dudes, Like
1:43:10
there was a reason Taylor Rapp was still available, like Chauncey Gardner. Johnson
1:43:14
only signed a one year deal. And I think you're gonna have some guys
1:43:15
this year like Antoine Winfield potentially resets the safety market. I think Dougger's gonna
1:43:19
get paid well. But then you've got all these random and I shouldn't say
1:43:24
random, but all these other safeties that are gonna be looking for work,
1:43:27
like the Jordan White has, the Chuck Clarks, Jay Ron Curse, Darnell
1:43:30
Savage, Mike Edwards, Deshaun Gibson. We'll see if Kareem Jackson is still
1:43:35
kicking around. But Xavier McKinney, Kyle Duggar, Terrell Edmonds, Jashaun Elliott,
1:43:41
Geno Stone like there are and again I want to start rolling on everybody,
1:43:45
even like Chen Ryan Neo, Ashton, Davis, Brandon Jones. Safety
1:43:49
from Miami is somebody who I like, I liked them at Texas, I
1:43:53
liked him. At Miami, you've got Julian Blackman from Indianapolis. There are
1:43:58
several names, no matter how you slice it, that could be had for
1:44:03
one or two year cheapy type of deals, prove it type of deals.
1:44:06
There are guys who could come in and fill that tailor rap contract role and
1:44:11
become a starter for you and be okay, especially if you're looking at from
1:44:14
like a free safety perspective, like Julian Blackman coming in and pairing with Jordan
1:44:17
Poyer could be a real interesting piece, right given Blackman's range and the type
1:44:20
of role that he occupies. My hope with that again is that good news,
1:44:28
like the opportunity to get a starter for a relatively good cost from free
1:44:33
agency is much higher at safety than it is a defensive line and wide receiver
1:44:38
for the Bills. Again, because of that cost, anything and everything you
1:44:41
look at for the Bills has to be viewed through that lens and that filter
1:44:45
of potential cost just because of what the Bill's cap situation is. And this
1:44:48
last piece I want to mention as well, We'll see what happens as far
1:44:51
as play calling duties for the defense, whether it's Bobby Babbitte or Sean McDermott
1:44:57
Collum plays again. But we know what's expected of safeties in this defense from
1:45:00
a mental and physical perspective. The post snap rotations, the disguising, the
1:45:06
having to play split field safety and post safety fitting, the run from depth,
1:45:12
must playing a multitude of coverage, is being able to match in coverage.
1:45:15
This defense, starting with the addition of hide and employer, was really
1:45:19
at the forefront of blending those safety roles and removing you know, the quote
1:45:26
unquote free and strong from safety. The Bills again were at the forefront of
1:45:30
that movement. Wherever you didn't have a free safety and a strong safety,
1:45:33
you just had two safeties. If Jordan Poyer stays on this roster, like
1:45:38
I alluded to earlier, he's moving more into a quote unquote strong safety than
1:45:45
he is just the safety like he used to be, which is understandable,
1:45:47
the wear and tear, the mileage, the years, all that kind of
1:45:49
stuff, but that potentially limits what you can call and potentially limits you know,
1:45:56
what you can get into overall, which then puts you into a run
1:45:59
of predictability. So again, because he's moved into more of a certain more
1:46:03
of a Nitchell. I don't think he's just a complete way. You have
1:46:05
to play him around the box because he has no range. But he's more
1:46:09
strong safety now than he has been previously with the Buffalo bills. That potentially
1:46:14
limits what you call and can get you in some rum of predictability, or
1:46:17
it can potentially limit how effective you are if you don't limit the menu of
1:46:23
calls. If you're you know, you know what, he's fine. We
1:46:25
can still run cover one and Cover three and have him be that post safety.
1:46:30
Can you does he still have that range? I do think, you
1:46:32
know, I've always liked how he's played around the box. I do think
1:46:35
it's interesting that, you know, when they went with those three safety looks,
1:46:39
he was the dime linebacker and they chose to have Taylor rap play deep,
1:46:43
especially considering how well Rapp played as a dime linebacker Big Nickel in that
1:46:48
Super Bowl run for the Rams. I talked about it last year when he
1:46:51
was brought on. If you go back to that Super Bowl, he was
1:46:54
not a starting safety for the Rams. It was Eric Weddle and it was
1:46:59
Scott the tiny safety who started for the Bengals. This past year, Taylor
1:47:02
Rapp was the dude coming in on third down covering like Jamar Chase and Tyler
1:47:06
Boyd in the slot on third downs like he was very good in that big
1:47:11
nickel dime linebacker role and maybe Poyer's better at it, or maybe schematically mcdermotthought
1:47:16
had just prevented you more advantageous looks to have that not be the way it
1:47:20
played out. But I do think it was interesting that when push came to
1:47:23
shove, they chose to have Poyer live more in the box than Taylor Rap,
1:47:27
somebody who has really been most successful when living around the line of scrimmage.
1:47:32
The fact that they chose to put Rap back and bump Poyer up,
1:47:36
I think is interesting. And again you're just watching on tape. He just
1:47:40
didn't have the range and the physicality that you necessarily come to expect to see
1:47:45
from him given how he's been And again I think that's understandable with the miles
1:47:48
on the tires for him. But no matter how you slice it, you
1:47:51
need more juice from that safety position. I think they need to get faster.
1:47:56
I think they need to get more violent and have more bite to them.
1:48:00
Overall, I just think you need to have more scheme, diversitive scheme,
1:48:04
diversatility, that's not a word. I combine diversity and versatility and falling
1:48:09
apart. You need more versatility on that back end. You need someone again,
1:48:13
I think like a Tyler Numan, like a Cam Kitchens. Whether it's
1:48:15
the size or the baiting quarterbacks, or the range or the ball skills or
1:48:18
the physicality, the impact plays on the ball, the tackling, the form
1:48:23
tackling, the force fitting the run, all those pieces. I think you
1:48:27
need an uptick at that spot. Or you could niche down in free agency
1:48:31
and just go for more of that rule. You could go for the Julian
1:48:34
Blackman and go more free safety, strong safety with Poyer and black men,
1:48:39
well black men and Poyer if you want to make sure it's respectively. But
1:48:43
again that limits you. Teams are gonna know more. Okay, black men's
1:48:45
going to be the deep safety ployer is going to be around the line of
1:48:47
scripmans. They might run too high, but if they're spinning, we know
1:48:50
who's going to be deep. We know who's going to be sure. We
1:48:53
know who's buzzing or who is said. I love to versatility. I know.
1:48:58
Actually it is a kind of a good word. It works, but
1:49:00
when you have guys in those type of roles, it gets it can get
1:49:04
predictable to a degree. If a quarterback can look at a safety and scout
1:49:09
off the tendencies and say like, okay, like there's Poyer, there's black
1:49:12
men. Okay, they're showing two high pre snap. If they shift a
1:49:15
single high pre snap, I know Poyer is the one that's coming down.
1:49:18
So let me key on Jordan Poyer. Granted, you can know that on
1:49:21
defense kind of play some you know, some mind games and some Jedi mind
1:49:26
tricks and chess matches off of that, but it's still tough. So that
1:49:31
safety position. I'm still torn on whether or not to keep Poyer, just
1:49:36
because I just don't like the idea of creating another hole that you then have
1:49:41
to address. And I do think Poyer can still get the job done,
1:49:44
but then you have to pair him with a nice piece at the other safety
1:49:47
spot in terms of range, juice, and ability, which is why I
1:49:50
gravitate towards the cam Kinchins of the world, the Tyler Neuban's of the world.
1:49:55
I love Jeremy Chin. I wonder how similar Chin and Poyer are,
1:50:00
especially with Chin not functioning as a deep safety last year, Like, how
1:50:03
comfortable is he just going back there and being that single high post safety and
1:50:06
cover one or cover three? Like it being that roamer and having to go
1:50:10
sideline to sideline, over the top and cover one and be that leverage guy
1:50:14
on the interior or covering that middle third and cover three. So I think
1:50:18
how you pair them that's the next step in the conversation too, schematically,
1:50:23
how are you pairing these safeties together? Because if you're keeping po who you
1:50:28
partner him with becomes a very interesting conversation from a skill set perspective in terms
1:50:32
of what you have to look at at that other safety, And if you're
1:50:35
going with two brand new safeties, that presents a whole other set of conundrums
1:50:39
and worries as well. But for me, those are the off season priorities
1:50:44
for the Bills, again not in that order that I went in this episode,
1:50:46
but wide receiver, defensive line, and safety. And there's gonna be
1:50:51
a lot of movement in shake and starting right with free agency. I'm not
1:50:55
expecting to see like some big sexy splash name. I think that the sexiest
1:50:58
name you're going to get is like a Jeremy Chin or a Van Jefferson or
1:51:01
DeMarcus Robinson or jet Julian Blackman, or like a Darnell Savage somebody you're just
1:51:08
like, oh, okay, like a one hundred two year deal here type
1:51:12
of thing. They're going to round out this defensive line with free agent moves.
1:51:16
We'll see what happens at wide receiver and free agency. But the good
1:51:19
news is they have a ton of draft picks. We know Bean has done
1:51:23
some cap gymnastics in the past to free up some money, and there are
1:51:27
you know, dollars that can be freed up with extensions and knocking down cap
1:51:30
hits and all of these pieces. And that's this is a good comment here
1:51:34
too from Bills are Electric, saying we don't need sexy, we need bodies.
1:51:38
And that's the big point too, right, The Bills are in a
1:51:39
certain situation with certain position groupings where you just need bodies, which is also
1:51:45
worrisome because that just means you have to fill the roster out. But then
1:51:47
also from a talent and skill set perspective, like you know, what are
1:51:51
you getting because you obviously need to fill the roster out, but you don't
1:51:55
want to just put a guy out there just to put a guy out there.
1:51:57
But that's also the kind of situation they're that they're in. So it's
1:52:00
gonna be very much interesting off season for this Buffalo Bills team. I'm gonna
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