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Mega Edition: Day Three Of The Chad Daybell Trial (10/18/26) · Beyond The Horizon

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome back to the program. The
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  Speaker 1: Chad Daybell trial is off and running and after a
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  Speaker 1: short week last week, we have a full slate ahead
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  Speaker 1: of us this week with proceedings expected to happen throughout.
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  Speaker 1: So let's not waste any time with any sort of
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  Speaker 1: rambling or whinging and let's just dive right into the
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  Speaker 1: recap of what went down. On Monday, April 15th, day
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  Speaker 1: number three, at the Chad Daybell trial. And once again,
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  Speaker 1: to do that, we're going to be using an article
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  Speaker 1: from eastidahonews.com, and the author of this article is Nate Eaton. 8.20 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: We are waiting in line to get into the courtroom.
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  Speaker 1: The trial court administrator just told us Judge Boyce is
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  Speaker 1: conducting a last-minute hearing that will be live-streamed only. 8.23 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Cameras and audio seem much better today. This hearing seems
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  Speaker 1: to be about Alex Cox's encounter with Joseph Ryan back
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  Speaker 1: in 2007. 826 a.m. This hearing is being held with
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  Speaker 1: the jury present. We are told that once this portion
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  Speaker 1: is over, we will be allowed in the courtroom and
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  Speaker 1: the jurors will be brought in. 829 a.m. Judge rules
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  Speaker 1: John Pryor cannot reference the incidents involving Joseph Ryan and
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  Speaker 1: Alex Cox. Now, Joseph Ryan, for those of you who
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  Speaker 1: might not be hip, is Lori Vallow's XXX husband. You know,
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  Speaker 1: this lady had multiple husbands, right? But the man they're
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  Speaker 1: referring to here is Tylee Ryan's dad. 8.36 a.m. The
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  Speaker 1: bailiff reminds everyone to silence their phone as someone's phone rings.
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  Speaker 1: If you are unsure if your phone will go off,
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  Speaker 1: turn it off, the bailiff says during the breaks. Everyone
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  Speaker 1: needs to leave and take all of their items with them.
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  Speaker 2: 8.38 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: There are around 30 to 40 people in the courtroom today.
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  Speaker 1: one of the largest days we have seen. Boyce is
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  Speaker 1: on the bench, prosecution ready to call its next witness.
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  Speaker 1: Jurors will be brought in. 8.41 a.m. The jurors are
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  Speaker 1: in their seats, and each of them have signed their
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  Speaker 1: declaration that they didn't do any research on the case
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  Speaker 1: over the long weekend. 8.42 a.m. Vince Kayakamanu is the
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  Speaker 1: next witness. He was an investigator with the Fremont County
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  Speaker 1: Sheriff's Office until taking a job as the chief deputy
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  Speaker 1: of with the Madison County Sheriff's Office earlier this year. 8.45 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Kaya Kamanu worked for the Fremont County Sheriff's Office for
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  Speaker 1: 18 years. Kaya Kamanu now oversees the Madison County Jail. 8.46 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Madison County Prosecuting Attorney Rob Wood is questioning Kaya Kamanu.
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  Speaker 1: The Chief Deputy explains he oversees the Telmate phone video
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  Speaker 1: system that inmates use in the jail. Wood asks Kaya Kamanu,
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  Speaker 1: how we make sure inmates don't make calls on behalf
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  Speaker 1: of other inmates. The deputy explains every inmate has a
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  Speaker 1: PIN number and a photo is taken. Their voice is
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  Speaker 1: also recorded. So whenever you're in prison, obviously, or in jail,
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  Speaker 1: everything you do is monitored. So it always amazes me
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  Speaker 1: when these dumbasses who are locked up decide to make
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  Speaker 1: a phone call or talk to somebody and think that
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  Speaker 1: that information is not going to be recorded by the government.
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  Speaker 1: Breaking news, dum-dum. It's going to be 8.48 a.m. Kaya
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  Speaker 1: Kamanu says all inmate calls are recorded. He can log
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  Speaker 1: into the system and listen to calls, but he's unable
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  Speaker 1: to edit the information. Tablets and phones are located in
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  Speaker 1: the pods of the jail for inmate use. 8.50 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Wood asked about the June 9, 2020, Lori Vallow Daybell
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  Speaker 1: was in Madison County Jail. Chad Daybell was not in jail.
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  Speaker 1: Wood asked to admit an exhibit. 8.51 a.m. The exhibit
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  Speaker 1: is a thumb drive containing a call between Chad and Lori.
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  Speaker 1: Wood is about to play the call.
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  Speaker 2: 8.52 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Lori called Chad. Hi babe, are you okay, she says.
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  Speaker 1: They're searching the property, Chad responds. The house right now,
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  Speaker 1: Lori responds. Yes, yes, Chad says. So Mark Means will
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  Speaker 1: be talking to you. Lori asks if they're in the house.
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  Speaker 1: Chad says no, they're out on the property. Lori asks
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  Speaker 1: if they are seizing stuff again. Chad responds, they're searching. 8.54 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Chad is looking at the screen in the courtroom as
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  Speaker 1: the call is played. The call continues with Chad saying,
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad that you called. We'll see what transpires. Lori responds, Kay,
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  Speaker 1: what do you want me to do? Pray? Chad says. Yeah, pray.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah. Chad tells Lori to call Mark. Maybe. Mark
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  Speaker 1: means is their former attorney.
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  Speaker 2: 8.56 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Chad tells Lori he's getting a call from someone else.
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  Speaker 1: I love you so much, he says. Lori asks Chad
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  Speaker 1: if he could try and call him later. Chad says,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. You can try. I'll
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  Speaker 1: answer if I can. Chad says, I love you, and
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  Speaker 1: I'll talk to you soon. Lori says she loves him,
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  Speaker 1: and the call ends. 8.57 a.m. Wood has no further
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  Speaker 1: questions for Kaya Kamanu. Pryor will now cross-examine.
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  Speaker 2: 8.58 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Pryor asks, How many officers were at Chad's house? Kayakamanu
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  Speaker 1: says more than 30. Pryor asks about Chad, mentioning on
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  Speaker 1: the phone that he was at his daughter Emma's house,
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  Speaker 1: which was kitty-cornered to Chad's home. Pryor asks if he
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  Speaker 1: found out who the person was calling that interrupted Chad's
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  Speaker 1: call with Lori. Kayakamanu says he does not know. 9 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Pryor references Lori mentioning search again on the call with Chad.
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  Speaker 1: He asks Kayakamanu, How many times officers had searched Chad's
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  Speaker 1: home prior to the June search? Kaya Kamanu says they
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  Speaker 1: went in January 2020. Pryor asks if officers ever showed
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  Speaker 1: up unannounced at Chad's house to search the property. Kaya
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  Speaker 1: Kamanu says no. They did go with the search warrant
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  Speaker 1: in January. And what Pryor's trying to do here is
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  Speaker 1: look for holes, right? Is everything on the up and up?
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  Speaker 1: Was the chain of custody respected? Were the search warrants...
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  Speaker 1: drawn up properly, you know, all of this stuff, the
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  Speaker 1: loopholes and technicalities. Because as we all know, that's really
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  Speaker 1: the only defense for somebody like Chad Daybell, who pretty
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  Speaker 1: much has been caught dead to rights at this point. 9.02 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Pryor asks Kayakamanu if he has interviewed Melanie Gibb. Kayakamanu
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  Speaker 1: says he has one time. Pryor asks Kayakamanu about interviewing
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  Speaker 1: Garth Daybell, Chad's son. Kaya Kamanu says he interviewed Garth
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  Speaker 1: one time at the Rexburg Police Department. Kaya Kamanu says
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  Speaker 1: he also went to the school where Garth teaches with
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  Speaker 1: an FBI special agent. I get like this Hills Have
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  Speaker 1: Eyes kind of vibe from Chad Daybell and his family, too.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it's just me, but it's real, like, hill people
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  Speaker 1: type shit going on over here.
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  Speaker 2: 9.04 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Pryor asks how long Garth was at RPD for the interview.
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  Speaker 1: Kaya Kamanu says for a few hours. They got a
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  Speaker 1: McDonald's and a soda. Garth asks for an attorney, and
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  Speaker 1: the lawyer showed up. Remember, that's not an admission of
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  Speaker 1: guilt or anything like that. Anytime that you're being questioned
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  Speaker 1: by the police, or the police come to talk to
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  Speaker 1: you even, I suggest having a lawyer present. Because the
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  Speaker 1: last thing you want to do is talk yourself into
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  Speaker 1: a jail cell. Prior asks, Kaya Kamanu is reviewed videotape
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  Speaker 1: of Chad and Emma from June 9th. Kaya Kamanu has not. 9.06 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Pryor asks if anyone was on the scene at Chad's
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  Speaker 1: house on June 9th who was not law enforcement. Kayakamanu
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  Speaker 1: says the coroner and some canine dogs were there. They
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  Speaker 1: work from 7 a.m. to 4 or 5 p.m. Pryor
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  Speaker 1: has no further questions. Wood has some redirect questions. 9.08 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Pryor spoke to Kayakamanu about how people get nervous when
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  Speaker 1: the police show up. Wood asks Kayakamanu If he has
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  Speaker 1: listened to multiple calls between Chad and Lori. Kayakamanu says yes.
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  Speaker 1: Wood asks if the tone of the phone calls on
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  Speaker 1: June 9th was different to their average phone call. Kayakamanu
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  Speaker 1: says yes. Wood says Kayakamanu if he was present when
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  Speaker 1: Chad drove away. Kayakamanu was. Wood asks what was happening.
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  Speaker 1: Pryor objects. Boyce overrules. Kayakamanu says when Chad drove away,
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  Speaker 1: police were looking for two bodies on his property. Nothing
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  Speaker 1: suspicious there, folks. Dude just had to go to the
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  Speaker 1: store real quick. All of a sudden had an urge
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  Speaker 1: to go get himself some Tums because I'm guessing the
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  Speaker 1: Ajita was building quickly. He knew that the cards were
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  Speaker 1: about to tumble down. He knew that the whole entire
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  Speaker 1: jig was up and his bitch ass tried to run
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  Speaker 1: like the coward he is. 9.11 a.m. Kaya Kamanu says
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  Speaker 1: when Chad drove away, police were in the process of
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  Speaker 1: discovering JJ Vallow's body. Wood has no further questions. Pryor
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  Speaker 1: is questioning Kayakamanu on the phone calls again. He asks
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  Speaker 1: if there were 30 officers on the property. There would
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  Speaker 1: be a different tone. Kayakamanu says yes. Pryor asks Kayakamanu
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  Speaker 1: if he was aware that Chad was going to get
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  Speaker 1: an attorney. Kayakamanu was not. He was going to get
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  Speaker 1: an attorney, huh? The attorney couldn't come to him? Maybe
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  Speaker 1: he should have called Saul. 9.12 a.m. Pryor has no
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  Speaker 1: further questions. Kayakamanu is the state's designated agent, so he
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  Speaker 1: gets to sit in the courthouse the entire trial. Pryor
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  Speaker 1: says he plans to recall Kayakamanu again. The next witness
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  Speaker 1: is Rexburg detective Eric Wheeler. 9.13 a.m. Wheeler walks in
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  Speaker 1: and takes the stand. Fremont County Deputy Prosecutor. Attorney Rocky
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  Speaker 1: Wixom is questioning Wheeler. Wheeler has worked for RPD for
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  Speaker 1: 18 years. He was a patrol sergeant before becoming a detective. 9.16 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Wixom asked Wheeler if he assisted on the search on
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  Speaker 1: June 9, 2020. Wheeler's role was to maintain scene security, traffic,
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  Speaker 1: and crowd control while investigators conducted their search. 9.17 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: During the search, Wheeler found remains of Tylee and observed
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  Speaker 1: the remains of J.J. He says Tylee's remains were found
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  Speaker 1: near the fire pit and J.J. 's remains were found
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  Speaker 1: near the pond in the rear of the property. 9.19 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Wheeler says when he arrived, he helped maintain traffic and
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  Speaker 1: stood by as detectives served the warrant to Chad. His
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  Speaker 1: role was to stand by and observe the occupants of
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  Speaker 1: the home as they were coming and going. 9.20 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Wheeler arrived at the home just after 7 a.m. He
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  Speaker 1: says multiple law enforcement agencies were involved. Rexburg Police, Fremont
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  Speaker 1: County Sheriff's Office, and the FBI. So the FBI is
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  Speaker 1: going to get involved whenever you have something like this
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  Speaker 1: with children, especially across state lines. Once it becomes federal
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  Speaker 1: and it moves across state lines... The FBI is well
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  Speaker 1: within their scope to get involved. 9.21 a.m. Wheeler first
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  Speaker 1: saw Chad Daybell leave the home at around 7.30 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: and he walked to his vehicle. Wheeler says he moved
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  Speaker 1: his vehicle to a spot where he had just had
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  Speaker 1: a better location of the pond area. He sat in
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  Speaker 1: this vehicle and was on his phone for quite some time.
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  Speaker 1: Just sat there in his vehicle, Wheeler said. 9.22 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Wheeler says there were multiple times he saw Chad looking
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  Speaker 1: awkwardly over his shoulder toward where the investigators and cadaver
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  Speaker 1: dogs were working. Chad Daybell is writing on a yellow notepad,
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  Speaker 1: and he just showed it to Pryor. Wheeler continues to
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  Speaker 1: say Chad appeared to be suspicious about something in the
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  Speaker 1: pond area. Yeah, he knew. He knew that the authorities
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  Speaker 1: were on the scent. and he knew that it wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: be long before they found these children's bodies, and that's
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  Speaker 1: because he knew where they were buried. Even if he
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  Speaker 1: didn't do it, he wasn't the one who killed them.
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  Speaker 1: He knew where they were buried, and that's because he
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  Speaker 1: planned it all out with Lori Vallow. Allegedly. 9.24 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: At one point, Chad got out of the vehicle, walked around,
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  Speaker 1: then got back in. He made a phone call and
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  Speaker 1: then drove over to Emma's house. Wheeler says Chad had
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  Speaker 1: a brief conversation outside and then went into her house.
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  Speaker 1: He was inside for an hour, or 90 minutes. 9.25 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Wheeler says when Chad left the property, he appeared to
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  Speaker 1: be in a hurry. Detectives were assigned to keep an
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  Speaker 1: eye on him, and Wheeler told Detective Schmidt that Chad
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  Speaker 1: was leaving in a vehicle. Other investigators came running over
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  Speaker 1: and said hurry and go stop him. Imagine the audacity
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  Speaker 1: of this clown to try and get away. Let me
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  Speaker 1: just hop in the whip and try and drive away
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  Speaker 1: from this big-ass investigation. as they're excavating my house looking
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  Speaker 1: for bodies. 9.26 a.m. Wheeler says he heard Chad accelerate
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  Speaker 1: and he thought, is he trying to run? Wheeler stopped
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  Speaker 1: Chad around the Fremont-Madison County line. Wheeler asked Chad to
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  Speaker 1: get out of his vehicle and said detectives were on
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  Speaker 1: the way to talk to him. Wheeler says Chad didn't
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  Speaker 1: ask any questions and wasn't shocked or surprised that he
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  Speaker 1: was stopped. 9.28 a.m. Wixom asked Wheeler, If there was
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  Speaker 1: some interaction with Chad, Wheeler says he placed handcuffs on Chad.
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  Speaker 1: He was told he was being detained and Chad was
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  Speaker 1: put in Wheeler's patrol vehicle. Chad was told JJ had
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  Speaker 1: been found. Wheeler says there are three cameras inside his vehicle.
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  Speaker 1: Wixom moves to admit the video footage from the patrol vehicle.
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  Speaker 1: One dash cam inside the vehicle. The other is a
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  Speaker 1: camera recording from outside the vehicle.
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  Speaker 2: 9.32 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: The videos are over an hour long, but only 15
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  Speaker 1: minutes will be played in court. Prosecutors and the defense
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  Speaker 1: each agree they can play whatever portions of the video
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  Speaker 1: that they would like. 9.35 a.m. The video will start
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  Speaker 1: at the 1 hour and 3 minute mark. The clip
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  Speaker 1: comes up on the screen. Chad Daybell is wearing a
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  Speaker 1: baseball cap and a polo shirt. The video shows Chad
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  Speaker 1: in the backseat of the car. Emma, Chad's daughter, comes
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  Speaker 1: up to the side of the car and is crying.
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  Speaker 1: She says I love you so much and gives her
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  Speaker 1: dad a hug. Directly after a body was just found
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  Speaker 1: at a little boy's property. I got news for you.
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  Speaker 1: As much as I love my dad, if somebody pulled
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  Speaker 1: a child's body from his property, we'd have a conversation.
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  Speaker 1: And it wouldn't be me running over there crying and
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  Speaker 1: carrying on talking about how much I love you. I
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: have some questions, Dad. 9.37 a.m. Wixom asks Wheeler to
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  Speaker 1: explain the position of his vehicle relative to the Daybell property.
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  Speaker 1: Wheeler says he is parked on the south side of
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  Speaker 1: the residence facing west. If you were to look right
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  Speaker 1: outside of that door, you would be looking at his house. 9.39 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: The video continues to play. Chad asks Emma to get
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: his wallet. Lieutenant Ball asks if he can look through it.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: Chad says sure. Chad says Emma will be running his finances.
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  Speaker 1: I suppose. Chad is looking at the screen in the
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: courtroom as the video is played. Chad tells Emma there
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: is about $ 9, 000 in a middle drawer in Mark's room.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: Must be nice to keep 9Gs just laying around the house.
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  Speaker 2: 9.41 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Chad tells his daughter the password to his bank account.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: He goes through his bank cards with his daughter. He
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: tells her the company business card is in the same
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  Speaker 1: drawer as the 9Gs. Chad tells Emma that the card
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: used for Tellmate. Emma says she already has a Tellmate account.
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  Speaker 1: and that she's been talking to Lori on it. Chad
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  Speaker 1: tells Emma he puts $ 30 a week on Lori's commissary.
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  Speaker 1: Emma starts to cry and says, I love you so much.
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  Speaker 1: Chad says, I'm sorry, and tells her to cooperate with
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  Speaker 1: the police as much as she feels. Look, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know these kids, but my guess is they're all into
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: the same weird shit that their pops was into. You know,
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: the whole entire cult nonsense. You know, the whole entire
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: end of the world BS. My guess is these kids
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  Speaker 1: bought right into it if their dad's into it and
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  Speaker 1: they're this close to him.
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  Speaker 2: 9.43 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Emma says the police have been kind to them that day.
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  Speaker 1: She says she texted John Pryor so he has her number.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: She continues to explain financial information to his daughter. Emma
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: says to her dad that it sounds like he won't
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  Speaker 1: be out for a while. Chad kind of laughs and says, right, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: never again. This dude will never see the sunshine as
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: a free man again. ever again in my opinion. He
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: is exactly where he belongs. 1000%, without a doubt, exactly
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: where he belongs. 9.45am. Wheeler says at this point, Chad
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  Speaker 1: had not been arrested. Emma tells her dad that she
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: will take care of Mark, her brother, and her and
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: her dad as best she can. Chad tells Emma to
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: keep paying the mortgage out of the company account. They
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: discuss the car payment. Chad says, I'm not coming back. Yeah, well,
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  Speaker 1: that's about the only prophecy that this dude has made
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  Speaker 1: that's going to come true. 9.47 a.m. Chad tells Emma
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  Speaker 1: the house is essentially hers and he will talk to
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: John Pryor about financial arrangements. He continues to talk about
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  Speaker 1: money and maybe refinancing the house. 9.49 a.m. Emma asks
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  Speaker 1: if things can be sent from Amazon to the jail.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Chad says Lori would know the Amazon account. He says
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: he has around $ 265 dollars in gift certificates in the
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Amazon account. Emma asks the office near the car if
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  Speaker 1: they are leaving things in the home, like the computer.
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  Speaker 1: He says he doesn't know. 9.51 a.m. Chad says it'll
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  Speaker 1: work out. Emma says she's going to miss her dad
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  Speaker 1: so much. Chad says he isn't sure if he's going
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: to Madison or Fremont County Jail. Chad says he's sure
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Fremont has a telemate system so they can talk. Chad
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: ended up going to Fremont County Jail. Chad says all
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: the neighbors are going to be talking. Emma says they
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: already are. She tells her dad, we're okay, dad. We're okay.
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  Speaker 1: You raised us, so we're independent now. I'm not Colby.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Apparently referring to Colby Ryan, Lori's son. Yeah, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: a big fan of Chad Daybell's kids, folks. I'll just
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  Speaker 1: be straight up and clear. And I'm not a fan
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  Speaker 1: of all the other little toads that were running around
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: with Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell either. I think that
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: they know a lot more, and in fact, I think
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: they might have been involved a lot more than we're hearing.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Of course, that's just my speculation, but usually when you
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: have people who are on the fringes like that, they
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: have information. And my guess is that the authorities didn't
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: press charges against some of these people because they turned
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: state's evidence. 9.53 a.m. Emma and Chad continue to discuss finances.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: He tells her that he spoke with Lori for a
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: few minutes. Emma asked if Lori was surprised, and Chad
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: says she seemed bothered and disturbed. Emma tells her dad
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: that she asked police where they found the human remains.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: She was told under the tree and there were boards
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: over it. Chad says, okay. Emma says, I can see
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: in your face that it surprises you. 9.55 a.m. Emma
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: says her conversation with the police. She was told one
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: set of human remains were found and they were looking
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: for another. Wixom pauses the video after Chad says they're
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: not searching inside the house. Wheeler confirms the search was
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: focused on the property. Not inside the home. Yeah, because
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: they already were on the scent. They knew the deal,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: and they knew the general area that they were going
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: to look in. 9.56 a.m. Emma says she called Mark,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: her brother, and told her that her dad was arrested.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Chad says it's all a matter of timing and things
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: will come together. He says that he loves Emma and
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: they hug. He says they can talk on Tellmate, Wixom
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: pauses the video and advances further in the clip. 9.58 a.m.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Wixom plays a short clip and asks Wheeler what direction
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Chad is looking. Wheeler says Chad is looking at the
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: fire pit area and where Tylee's remains were found. Wheeler
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: says he was asked to transport Chad to the Fremont
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: County Jail where his mugshot was taken. 10.01 a.m. Wheeler
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: returned to the Daybell home and began searching in the
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: fire pit area. Wheeler says he also assisted in setting
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: up light trailers that evening. Wixom Has no further questions. 10.03 a.m.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Boyce says we will now take a morning recess before
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Pryor begins cross-examination. Back in 30 minutes. So we're going
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: to take a break here too. And then we'll pick
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: up in the next episode where we left off with
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: the rest of the morning session of testimony from the
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Chad Daybell trial on April 15th. All of the information
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: that goes with this episode can be found in the
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: description box. What's up everyone and welcome back to the program.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: In this episode we're going to pick up where we
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: left off with the Chad Daybell trial with Detective Wheeler
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: on the stand. This article was published by EastIdahoNews.com and
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: the author is Nate Eaton. 10.33 a.m. We are back
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: in the courtroom. Chad Daybell is sitting alone at his
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: table waiting on the attorneys and judge.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: 10.44 a.m.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Attorneys are at their table, Judge Boyce is on the bench,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Detective Wheeler remains on the stand, and the jurors will
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: be brought in. 10.48 a.m. Pryor wants to clarify Wheeler's
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: role the morning of June 9th. Wheeler says he assisted
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: in securing the road in front of the property. Pryor
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: asks how many officers were at the home. Wheeler can't
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: testify to that, but confirms multiple agencies.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: 10.50 a.m.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Pryor asks if any other citizens were at the property.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Wheeler says no. 10.51 a.m. Pryor asking Wheeler about his
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: body camera. Wheeler confirms he wore a camera that day. 10.53 a.m.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Wheeler explains the events of that morning. Over the course
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: of that morning, Daybell got into his car, moved it
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: to the west side of his home, then took it
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: to the home kitty corner to his property, and then
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: left southbound.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: 10.55 a.m.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Pryor asks Wheeler when Chad was advised remains had been
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: found on the property. Wheeler says that happened during the
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: traffic stop. 10.56 a.m. Wheeler confirms Chad was in Emma's
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: house for around 90 minutes to two hours. Pryor asks
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: about Chad leaving Emma's house. Pryor asks Wheeler to clarify
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Chad speeding off. Pryor asks what the speed limit is
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: in front of Chad's house. Wheeler says it's 50 miles
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: per hour. Pryor asks if it would be unusual for
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: someone to accelerate once they got on the highway. Wheeler
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: says that would not be unusual. And what Pryor is
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: trying to say is that it's no big deal that
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: he was accelerating at a high rate of speed. That's
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: because he was trying to merge onto the freeway, just
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: like anybody else would be doing. Well, the difference is
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: the vast majority of us, and I'm going to say 99.9%
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: of us, wouldn't be speeding away from a site That
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: happens to be our home, where a child's remains were
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: just excavated. So he could try to explain that away
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: all he wants, but the fact is Chad Daybell was
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: trying to scoot as these remains were being exhumed. 11 a.m.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Pryor asks about Wheeler's body camera footage. Wheeler doesn't recall
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: the exact conversation on the video before Chad was taken
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: into custody. Pryor asks to publish the body camera footage. 11.01 a.m.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: We now see the body camera footage. Detective Ball walks
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: up to Chad and says he is going to be detained.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Chad says something inaudible and Ball responds, your attorney can
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: now come. 11.02 a.m. Pryor says it appears Mr. Daybell
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: was in the process to see his lawyer that morning.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Wheeler says he can't testify to that. And look, I
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: get it. You want some legal advice, right? Why not
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: have your lawyer come to you, though? You have 17
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: different agencies at your house. pulling remains of children out
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: of the ground, and you're trying to leave the property
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: to go talk to your lawyer? Probably a better idea
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: to have that lawyer make like a doctor in the
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: 30s and do a house call. 11.03 a.m. Chad is
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: then put into handcuffs and placed into the backseat of
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Wheeler's car. Wheeler asks at what point Chad was advised
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: they found the body on his property. Wheeler says it
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: was right at this time.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: 11.05 a.m.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: At that point, Chad was put in the back of
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: the police car and Emma was allowed to talk with him.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Pryor discusses how Chad spoke with Emma about their credit cards,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: business accounts, etc. We don't know whether he was doing
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: that to try to figure out whether he was trying
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: to post bond. And as much as I hate this
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: do not, I don't blame him for trying to post bond.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to spend one second in jail either.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: I've said it a million times. Your boy is not
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: built for that life. Bunch of gross ass, sweaty ass.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Disgusting-ass dudes taking craps all day in front of you.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Everything smells. Everybody's gross. No thank you. 11.06 a.m. Pryor
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: asks if where Chad parked gave him the best view
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: of the fire pit and pond. Wheeler says he is
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: unsure about the pond, but yes, on the fire pit. 11.08 a.m.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Pryor says he's having difficulty understanding why Chad moved his car.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: If you have such a good view of the fire
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: pit and the pond and the tree where JJ was found...
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: If your purpose is to observe or see what's going
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: on for some nefarious reason, why would he move? Pryor says.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Wheeler responds that he was told to move by law enforcement.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: And what does it matter where he's at watching while
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: this whole entire thing's being excavated? The fact is he
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: knows that eventually they're going to find these remains. That's
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: what he knows. So I have no idea what he
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: thought he was going to accomplish by sitting around and
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: staring at the site where the remains were eventually found. 11.10 a.m.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Wheeler says Chad turned his head four to five times
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: to look where police were working. Pryor says that Chad
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: didn't run at that point. He went to his daughter's
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: for 90 minutes to two hours. 11.12 a.m. Pryor asked
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Wheeler about the statement Emma made. She said to her
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: dad that she could tell by his reaction that he
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: didn't know what was going on out there. 11.13 a.m.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Pryor continues to ask questions about where Chad was looking
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: that morning. He then asked Wheeler, what time Chad had
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: been dropped off at the jail. It was around 1245,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: according to Wheeler. Pryor asked Wheeler if he had been
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: on Chad's property before. He says no. Wheeler saw cadaver
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: dogs on the property that morning. Yo, you know you're
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: as good as cooked. When the cadaver dogs show up,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: if you have a body buried on your property, those
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: dogs are going to find it. 1115 a.m. Wheeler returned
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: to the home at 1.30 p.m., After he returned, he
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: was assigned to help the fire pit area. There were
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: multiple people at the fire pit, and Wheeler says they
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: were coming and going. 11.16 a.m. Wheeler says shovels, sifters,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: and hand tools were used to dig in the dirt.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Pryor has no further questions. And imagine, again, being one
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: of these people, one of these guys, gals, whatever, out
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: there digging with their hands, these sifters, looking for the
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: remains of these children. I can't even put it into words.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: How disturbing that is. And honestly, I'm grateful that there's
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: people out there that are willing to do this job.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Because it's not a job that I'd be willing to do.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: It's bad enough that we talk about this stuff on
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: a regular basis. Never mind digging through the dirt, looking
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: for the remains of these children. I mean, I'd find
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: some bones or something. And forget arresting you. I'd go
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Vic Mackey on your ass and beat the living shit
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: out of you. So I have a lot of respect
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: for the people that can do this job and remain professional.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Because I'm telling you right now, I would not be
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: able to. 11.19 a.m. Wixom will ask some redirect questions.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: He begins by asking about someone getting nervous during a
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: typical traffic stop. Wheeler says most people get a little
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: nervous during traffic stops. Well, that sounds about right. Nobody
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: wants to get pulled over and nobody certainly wants to
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: pay some fine. So yeah, people are usually nervous when
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: they get pulled over. And I'm guessing you're a lot
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: more nervous when you get pulled over after a child's
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: body has been dug up on your property. I'd say
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: that there's some nerves. 11.20 a.m. In your experience, if
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: someone is about to be discovered in a crime, about
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: to be caught in a crime, have you ever experienced
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: someone just acknowledging that and surrendering because they are caught,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Wixom says? Wheeler says it's common for suspects to try
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: and distance themselves Well, yeah, nobody wants to get caught, right?
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Everybody wants to get away with it. If they wanted
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: to get caught, they'd go and turn themselves in right
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: after the crime. 11.22 a.m. Wixom follows up on the
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: speed issue that Pryor brought up earlier. He asks if
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: someone who had bodies buried on their property might accelerate
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: quickly to get away from the property. Wheeler says yes. Yeah,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: you would think. Time to put the pedal to the
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: metal and get out of Dodge. Or I guess in
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: this case, out of Rexburg. 11.23am. Wixom asks Wheeler if
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: any of Tylee's remains were buried in the Pet Cemetery.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Wheeler can't testify exactly where the remains were in the
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: fire pit area. 11.25 a.m. Wixom follows up the question
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: about shovels and tools used to recover Tylee's remains. Wheeler
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: says the majority of what he did was on his
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: hands and knees, using brushes to remove portions of dirt
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: away from the mass that was found. 11.27 a.m. Wheeler
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: says he found a portion of a skull, flesh, and
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: other bones in a bucket, melted. Other than JJ and Tylee,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: no other human remains were found on the property. So
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: it's not like they can say, oh, we were burying
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: our relatives here, and not like that would even work
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: because of DNA. So... All of a sudden, these kids
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: are found dead and buried on your property as you're
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: accelerating at a high speed away from the site? Yeah,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: nobody has any questions for you, Stunod. You're not going
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: to prison, dumbass. 11.23 a.m. Wixom asks Wheeler if any
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: of Tylee's remains were buried in the pet cemetery. Wheeler
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: can testify exactly where the remains were in the fire
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: pit area. 11.29 a.m. Wheeler says all conduct by law
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: enforcement in recovering the remains that morning was careful. Pryor
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: objects to Wixom questions and Boyce calls for a sidebar.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: All the attorneys leave the courtroom. 11.32 a.m. Boyce is
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: back on the bench and the attorneys have returned. 11.33 a.m.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Wixom asks a question and Pryor objects, then asks for
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: a sidebar with the judge. All the attorneys leave the
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: courtroom again with Boyce. Wixom has tried to bring up
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: the term. consciousness of guilt, twice and prior as opposed
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: to it. 1134 AM. Boyce says the question is struck
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: from the record. Wixom says he has a few more questions.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: So a little bit of a win there for Chad Daybell,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: for once, considering all the L's this dude has piled up.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: At least he got a little bit of a win
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: there by having the comment struck from the record. Unfortunately
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: for Daybell, that's like blowing your nose in the middle
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: of having Ebola. Sure, it feels good for a little instant,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: and then you realize, well, I still have Ebola. 11.35 a.m.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Wixom asked Wheeler to clarify that he was not directly
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: involved in recovering JJ's remains. He was not, but made observations.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: The only time Wheeler saw law enforcement go into the
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: house was at the beginning of the day. All of
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: the search was happening outside the property.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: 11.37 a.m.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Wixom again asks Wheeler where Chad was looking while in
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: the driveway. Wheeler says he was looking toward the fire pit.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Wixom has no further questions. Pryor has some follow-ups. 11.38 a.m.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Pryor asks Wheeler if he spoke to any other law
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: enforcement during the break. Wheeler says he did not. Pryor
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: asks about Chad leaving when he learned about the remains
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: being found on his property. Wheeler explains when he left
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: It was from Emma's residence shortly after Wheeler learned JJ's
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: body had been found. 1140 a.m. Pryor asks if Chad knew,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: at that point, that he left Emma's house if Chad
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: had been told anything about the remains being found. Wheeler
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: says at that point Chad likely would not have known.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: 1141 a.m. Wheeler's testimony is concluded. Pryor and Wixom say
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Wheeler may be recalled later in the trial. 1142 a.m.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: The next witness is Fremont County Lieutenant Joe Powell. 1144 a.m.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Powell has been at the Sheriff's Office for 22 years.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Wixom asks Powell if his role includes getting involved with
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: unattended deaths. Powell says yes. An unattended death is when
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: someone discovers someone's death. There's nobody around when it happens.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: 1146 a.m. Wixom asks about the morning Tammy Daybell died.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: October 19th, 2019. Powell was notified of Tammy's death by
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: a deputy. On October 31, 2019, Powell got a call
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: from law enforcement in Arizona inquiring about Tammy Daybell's death.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: They asked for a copy of the death report. 11.47 a.m.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Powell reviewed the report and requested Tammy's medical records. He
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: sent the information to Gilbert Police. Gilbert also asked Powell
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: if they could locate the gray Jeep Wrangler with Texas plates.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: They told him they believe the Jeep was in Fremont
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: County and it was involved in an attempted shooting. 11.48 a.m.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Gilbert gave Powell the names of Alex Cox and Lori Vallow,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: or Jamie and Circe Lannister, whichever way you want to
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: go with that. They told him that they might have
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: ties to Chad Daybell. Powell drove to Chad's house on
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: October 31, 2019. The Jeep wasn't there and Powell notified Gilbert.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: The next day, Powell got an email asking if he
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: could check some more addresses about the Jeep. One of
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: the addresses was the P.O. Box in Sugar City. Another
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: was Lori's apartment in Rexburg. 11.50 a.m. Powell proceeded to
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: do surveillance on Lori's apartment. They saw Chad leave the
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: apartment on Pioneer Road the morning of November 1, 2019.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Powell consulted with Rexburg police as Lori's apartment was in Rexburg. 11.52 a.m.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Powell followed Chad from the apartment to Mountain American Credit Union.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: They lost him after that, so they went back to
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: Lori's apartment. They saw Lori leave and go to the
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: post office in Sugar City. She then went to Walgreens.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Chad and Lori then leave the apartment to a credit
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: union in Idaho Falls, followed by Hobby Lobby and Cafe Rio.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Hobby Lobby, is it? Why am I not shocked?
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: 11.54 a.m.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Powell saw Lori and Chad holding hands as they walked
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: into Hobby Lobby. A photo was taken and Wixom asked
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: to admit the picture. Pryor objects to the image. Boyce
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: overrules that objection. The photo is shown on the screen.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Powell says Chad and Lori held hands the entire time
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: they walked in. Meanwhile, those kids are dead. And these two,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Scafusa and Stunad, are living their best life. Helicopters, volcanoes.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: 11.57 a.m.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: After Chad and Lori left Cafe Rio, they drove to
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Cafe Rio. Powell and Chief Deputy Sean Garner went inside.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Wixom asked to admit a photo of Chad and Lori
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: eating inside Cafe Rio.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: Noon.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: We are now taking a lunch break. We will be
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: back at 1 p.m. So that signals for us that
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: we're going to take a break as well. And in
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: the next episode, we'll finish up our recap of what
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: went down at the Chad Daybell trial on day number three.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: All of the information that goes with this episode can
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: be found in the description box. What's up, everyone, and
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: welcome back to the program. In this episode, we're getting
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: right back to the recap of the Chad Daybell trial
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: and what went down on day number three. This article
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: was published by EastIdahoNews.com, and the author, once again, is
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Nate Eaton. 1.02 p.m. We are back in the courtroom.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Pryor is sitting next to Chad Daybell. Boyce is on
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: the bench. Rob Wood and Ingrid Beatty are at the
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: prosecutor's table. Rocky Wixom will continue questioning Lieutenant Joe Powell.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Larry and Kay Woodcock are inside the courtroom today. So
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: is Vicki Hoban, Tammy Daybell's aunt.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: 1.05 p.m.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Jurors are in their seat. Lindsay Blake joins the prosecutor's table.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Wixom picks up the Gilbert call he received about Tammy
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Daybell's death. 1.10 p.m. Wixom moves to admit an exhibit.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Powell testifies that Chad told the deputy that Tammy didn't
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: go to the doctor very often, and the last time
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: she had been to the doctor was two months prior
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: for an arm injury. Powell ran her name through law
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: enforcement prescription program to find out if Tammy was on
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: any medicine. She was on tramadol, and she had been
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: prescribed fluoxetine and antidepressant. That kind of runs counter to
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: what the kids and Chad said, right? That she never
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: went to the doctor? Well, she went to the doctor
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: for her arm being hurt. Leads me to believe that
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: if she had anything seriously wrong with her, all of
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: these maladies that Chad Daybell was saying she had, that
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: she would have went to the doctor. Yeah, I have
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: this chronic cough I can't get rid of for three years,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: but I'm not going to go to the doctor. I
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: hurt my arm? Oh, I better go to the doctor.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Does that make sense to anybody out there? 1.14 p.m.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Wixom asked the court to admit an exhibit. Part of
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: it's not legible. Boy sidebars with attorneys. White noise is
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: played in the courtroom. 1.18 p.m. Attorneys are back. Wixom
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: publishes the exhibit. It shows Tammy's medical records from Teton
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Medical Group. Powell says when dealing with unattended death cases,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: it's typical to get medical records. Powell says Tammy's past
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: medical history is pretty normal, other than depression. Well, you're
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: married to Chad Daybell. You're out here being the breadwinner,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: working hard every day to put food on the table.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: And this dude's writing fantasy stories about the end of
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: the world and running off with the skafooza Lori Vallow. Yeah,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: I would say depression is certainly on the way. 1.19 p.m.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Powell requested Tammy's records for two years. Wixom asked to
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: publish the season's medical record. We see the record on
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: the screen. She was being seen for depression and nothing else.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: She appeared to be healthy, so I got a warrant.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: for exhumation, Powell says. And this is where it's really
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: going to get tricky for Chad Daybell when it comes
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: to Tammy Daybell. She wasn't sickly like he said. Now
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: they might want to infer that, and his kids might
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: want to run cover for him. But there's no evidence
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: pointing us in that direction, saying that, oh yeah, Tammy was,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: you know... Sick all the time. She had all these problems.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: In fact, the record shows us something different. 1.22 p.m.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Powell said he worked with the court in Utah and
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: had Tammy exhumed. Wixom asked to approach. The attorneys go
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: to the judge's chambers. Daybell is scrolling on his laptop. 1.27 p.m.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Attorneys are back and Wixom asked to admit more exhibits.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Wixom asked Powell what kind of things they look for
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: to make sure There hasn't been any tampering at the
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: site of an exhumation. Powell says at the gravesite where
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Tammy's casket was pulled from the ground.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: 1.28 p.m.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Wixom shows images on the screen. The first one shows
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: the backhoe getting ready to dig at the gravesite in Springville.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: We see another photo of the cement vault being lifted
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: out of the ground and another photo showing the casket
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: under the cement lid. Powell didn't see any tampering. 1.30 p.m.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: The casket was loaded into a hearse and taken to
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: the medical examiner's office in Utah. Powell followed the body
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: to the office and observed the autopsy. We now see
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: an autopsy photo of Tammy Daybell. 1.32 p.m. Powell explains
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: that he served a warrant on Chad's home in January 2020.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: He helped collect electronic devices and take them to the
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Fremont County Sheriff's Office.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: 1.33 p.m.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: Chad did not react when the photo of his dead
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: wife was displayed on the screen. Of course he didn't react.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: He doesn't care. Let's just be very clear, okay? This
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: man maliciously killed his wife. And I think that's what
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: the evidence has pointed to for this whole entire time.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: And now it's just getting slammed home. This is like
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: showing up with a receipt, right? And that's what the
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: prosecution is doing. And for Chad Daybell, forget it. He
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: has no out here. His only hope is that there
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: was some kind of prosecutorial misconduct along the way that
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: he can, you know, hang his hat on and hope
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: that he gets a mistrial or later on for an appeal.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: But besides that, this dude is cooked. 1.34 p.m. Pryor
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: will now conduct cross-examination. Vicki Hoban, Tammy Day-Belzant, is wiping
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: her eyes and nose with a tissue. Boyce asks for
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: a sidebar with attorneys. 1.39 p.m. Boyce mentions Tammy's death
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: certificate and was admitted but never published. Pryor begins to
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: question Powell and is reminded, once again, to speak into
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: his microphone.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: 1.40 p.m.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Pryor asks if Powell has any camera in his car
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: or a body camera. Powell says no. Pryor says it's
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: important to get the facts right from the witnesses so
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: cameras could be helpful. It's a tool you use to
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: make sure everybody is playing on the same page. Would
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: you agree with that, Pryor asks? Powell agrees. Again, looking
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: for some kind of technicality to sink their teeth into. Oh,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: he didn't have a body camera on. This, that, the
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: other thing. But the reality is this. You're going to
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: have to explain how those children were found buried on
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: your property. And then you're going to have to explain
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: all the other bullshit. So good luck, pal. 1.42 p.m.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Pryor asked about the call Powell received from Gilbert police.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Pryor explains Powell received information about Alex Cox and Lori
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Vallow and the shooting involving Brandon Boudreau. Pryor says as
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: part of Powell's surveillance, he was able to establish a
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: relationship between Lori and Chad. Powell says yes. 1.44 p.m. Pryor,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: what's suspicious about two single people going to Hobby Lobby
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: or going out to eat? Powell says it's not suspicious. Well,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: when they're supposed to have kids, and those kids are
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: nowhere to be found, I'd say that's a bit suspicious, no?
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: Where did these kids go? Did you drop them off
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: at the bounce factory? Are they hanging out with Jesse Pinkman?
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Where are these kids at? Nobody knows. And that's because
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: these kids were dead. So maybe it's not suspicious for
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: two single people with no kids to be doing what
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Valo and Daybell were doing. But when you have children,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: probably going to have those kids around a little bit, no?
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: So that's a bit suspicious to me. 1.47 p.m. Pryor
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: shows the Teton medical record on the screen. He points
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: out that anemia is listed on the medical record. Pryor
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: points out anxiety and depression are also on the record. 1.49 p.m.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Pryor points out the family history listed on Tammy's record.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: Pryor now shows another exhibit, Tammy Daybell's death certificate. He
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: asks Powell if he looked at her death certificate. Powell
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: says he did not.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: 1.50 p.m.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Powell says Tammy Daybell's children were never notified their mother
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: was being exhumed. Back to the certificate. The cause of
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: death says cardiac event and pulmonary edema. Pryor points out
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Tammy's father has a history of heart issues. So again,
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: inferring that this was a natural death, that Tammy just
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: had all of these issues that were not documented by
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: her doctor, by the way, and that it was because
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: of these issues that Tammy ended up dead. Meanwhile, back
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: here in reality, 1.52 p.m. You went to a judge
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: to have her dug out of the ground, and you
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: didn't even once look at the certificate of death, Pryor asks?
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: Powell responds, nope. 1.53 p.m. Pryor shows another exhibit and
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: asks Powell to read from the screen. This is a
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: report of what Chad said happened the morning Tammy died.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: He says Tammy had a coughing fit and vomited. She
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: went to sleep and died, according to Chad, 1.56 p.m.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Chad told investigators Tammy did not have any serious medical conditions.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: The last time she was at the doctor was approximately
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: two months prior when she had fallen in the driveway
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: after hurting her arm. Chad said Tammy had been feeling
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: sick and been going through menopause. 1.57 p.m. Pryor points
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: out Tammy used herbal medicines and untraditional treatments instead of
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: going to the doctor when she was sick. Most of
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: what was in her cupboard was was essential oils and
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: natural medicines. Well, if that's the case, why didn't she
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: just use one of those natural oils or one of
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: those medicines on her busted-ass arm? Oh, that's because if
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: she has something seriously wrong with her, she's going to
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: the doctor. So save the rest of that BS for
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: somebody else. 1.58 p.m. Pryor asks about bruises on Tammy's
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: body at the time she passed away. Powell says he
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: was aware of bruises. Pryor asks if they were old bruises.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: Powell doesn't recall. Pryor says Tammy was clearly taking medication
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: for bruising. Powell responds, that's what the report says. 2 p.m.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: Chad also told the coroner his wife was having seizures.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Their daughter, said Tammy, was taking clogging classes and had
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: slowed down lately. You didn't take that into consideration when
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: you decided to dig Tammy up, did you? Pryor asks.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Powell says no. Well, was she having those seizures because
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: she was being poisoned over a period of time? So
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: all of these questions that Pryor has can be answered
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: with another question directed directly back at Chad Daybell. 2.02 p.m.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Pryor lists the medical conditions Tammy was having and confirms
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: with Powell that he didn't take these items into consideration
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: before digging Tammy from the ground. Powell confirms he did not.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Pryor is done questioning. but intends to bring him back
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: during the defense portion of the trial. 2.04 p.m. Wixom
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: has follow-up questions. He asked Powell if at the time
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: of the exhumation he was aware the kids were missing.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Powell says yes. Wixom says Powell if he was aware
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: Chad and Lori were together at the time of the exhumation.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Powell says yes, Lori and Chad were holding hands at
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Hobby Lobby 12 days after Tammy died. Now who the
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: hell's strolling around Hobby Lobby with their gumad after their
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: wife just died 12 days ago? Well, Stunad Daybell, that's who.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: And the audacity of this moron to actually think he
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: was going to get away with this shit. 2.07pm. Chad
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: Daybell did not want an autopsy on his wife. Wixom
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: asks if there were other factors surrounding the decision for
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: the exhumation. Powell says all the deaths surrounding Lori Vallow
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: were a factor. 2.08 p.m. Wixom says despite what was
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: in the deputy's report, did other facts lead Powell to
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: seek the exhumation order? Powell says yes. 2.10 p.m. Powell
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: says Lori and Chad were together four to six hours
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: on November 1st, 2019. Powell never saw any children with
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: the couple. Wixom says Has no further questions. Pryor asks
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: for further questions. Boyce says as long as it's very
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: limited in scope.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: 212.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: Pryor asks if Powell is aware that Chad is not
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: implicated in the murder of Charles Vallow and the attempted
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: murder of Brandon Boudreau. Powell says he's aware of that.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: Pryor asks because of these other deaths, how does that
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: give Powell the right to dig up Tammy Daybell? Powell
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: says it's because of all the other information. Pryor has
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: nothing further.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: 213 p.m.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Towel is done on the stand, but may be recalled.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: We are now taking an afternoon break. Be back in
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: 30 minutes. 2.44 p.m. We are back in the courtroom.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: All the attorneys are at their tables and Chad is
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: chatting with John Pryor. 2.45 p.m. Boyce says there has
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: been an issue with some people who attended the trial today.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: It involved the jury and those people are not permitted
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: back in the courtroom. He reminds everyone of the courtroom
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: conduct order. So yeah, if you're outside of the conduct order,
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: You're going to get tossed, and you might face other
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: sanctions as well, depending on what sort of behavior you
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: are engaging in.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: 2.48 p.m.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: Jurors are in their seats. State calls Nicole Heidemann to
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: the stand. She is an FBI tactical specialist. She also
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: testified in Lori Vallow's trial. 2.50 p.m. Heidemann has worked
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: for the FBI for 16 years. She became involved in
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: the missing kid case in early 2020. She was assigned
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: to research data and phone attribution. Phone attribution is meant
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: to determine the likely primary user of a phone number. 2.52 p.m.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: Lindsay Blake is questioning Heidemann. Blake asked to admit a
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: PowerPoint presentation prepared by Heidemann. 2.54 p.m. The presentation shows
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: the phone attribution of Chad, Lori, and Alex. Chad had
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: nine phone numbers, three of interest. Lori had six, three
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: of interest. Chad had six phone numbers, three of interest. 2.56 p.m.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: This research was done between October 2018 and January 2020.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: Blake displays one of Chad's phone numbers and there are
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: nine items of interest under the number. The number was
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: subscribed to Tammy Daybell. It was listed as contact number
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: for Chad in a Hawaii rental agreement. It was saved
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: in Tammy's phone as Chad. It was associated with Chad's
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: Gmail account and it was listed as Bishop Shumway. in
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: the Lori for Style iCloud account. It was also saved
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: as contact dad in Seth Daybell's phone. Bishop Shumway. More
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: like Bishop Stunad. Bishop Jerkoff. Bishop Moron. 2.59pm. Blake asks
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Heideman how she does her research to determine numbers are legitimate.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: She explains how she does her research, and Blake shows
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: another phone number on the screen associated with Chad. It
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: was activated in 2018 and deactivated in January 2019. It's
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: saved as Melanie2 in LoriForStyle iCloud account. The next phone
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: number was activated the same day the prior number expired,
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: January 31st, 2019. It was saved as contact Janie in
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: LoriForStyle iCloud account. 3.02 PM. The next phone number was
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: saved as contact Bobby in the LolliTime iCloud account, Lori's account.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: The number called the Valley of the Sun Mortuary on
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: July 11th, 2019. It was Chad who called. On August 11th, 2019,
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: Chad's birthday, Lori sent a text of kisses. It was
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: saved as Shumway in the Lori for Style account. And folks,
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: you're just getting a little glimpse here of how ridiculous
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: these people are. Wait until this progresses a little bit
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: and you hear some more of the evidence. You're going
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: to leave this episode... and this trial shaking your head
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: and wondering how these people could be not only this stupid,
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: but this evil. 3.04 p.m. The last number was first
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: identified in connection to Alex Cox. The contact was saved
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: in the Lori for Style iCloud account as Bishop Miller. 3.05 p.m.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: There are a lot of cell phones in this investigation.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: Heidemann says two numbers were listed in white on the
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: screen and three other numbers listed in yellow. Heidemann says
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: the yellow numbers are particularly relevant in the trial. 3.07 p.m.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: Heidemann says there are a lot of numbers and a
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: lot of aliases associated with people in the investigation. Heidemann
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: explains some texts that were sent to different numbers. 3.10 p.m.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: Heidemann details a phone number that was used for Legion
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: Airline reservations and other purposes. The next number appeared in
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: various places within the investigation. It was subscribed to Lori
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: Vallow and associated with the Lolly Time and Lori for
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: Style iCloud accounts. 3.13 p.m. Heidemann reads the next number
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: into the record. She now focuses on the main three
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: numbers in the investigation. 3.15 p.m. Heidemann now explaining the
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: phone numbers attributed to Alex Cox. She talks about the
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: relevant information she found on these numbers that connect Alex
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: to the case.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: 3.17 p.m.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: Blake asks to approach. The attorneys go back into chambers
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: with the judge. 3.22 p.m. Blake says the exhibit is
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: finished but has more for the witness. She says this
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: would be a logical stopping point for the day. The
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: exhibit is admitted. Tomorrow court will run from 8.30 to 3.30,
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: but a motion will be taken up at 1 p.m.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: outside of the jury's presence.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: 3.23 p.m.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: Court is adjourned until tomorrow. All right, folks, so there
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: you have it, a recap of day number three at
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: the Chad Daybell trial. And after today's proceedings, after we
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: get the testimony in and we hear what went down,
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: I'll get it all added to the catalog and we'll
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: just keep it rolling. But until then, that's going to
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: do it for this one. All of the information that
• 54:41
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