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The Late Debate | 17 March · The Late Debate

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Speaker 1: The Late Base. Thanks for joining us on the Late Debate.
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Speaker 2: I'm James Macpherson with Caleb Bond and Denika de Georgio,
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Speaker 2: who I have to say pre show has not stopped singing.
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Speaker 2: Cliff Richard, Why did I lead up to this show?
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Speaker 3: What's the song? I can't remember what I was singing?
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Speaker 3: Power to the Needle? Why for sound? Wir for sound?
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Speaker 3: And absolutely a cracker. He was in Australia recently. I
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Speaker 3: think he went to the concert. He still got it,
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Speaker 3: hasn't he?
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Speaker 4: He does still have it, but with the weather as
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Speaker 4: it is at the moment, I'm dreaming of a summer holiday.
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Speaker 1: Ah, very good.
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Speaker 2: I got to tell you both my co hosts are
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Speaker 2: very good singers. Surface song during the program.
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Speaker 4: They will.
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Speaker 1: Here's what's coming up tonight?
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Speaker 2: Has Victorian Liberal leader Jess Wilson finally found her groove?
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Speaker 2: Her latest video attacking the Allen Labour government strikes exactly
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Speaker 2: the right note. We can't wait to show you in
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Speaker 2: just a moment. A government's about to lower speed limits
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Speaker 2: in a desperate bid to cope with the fuel crisis,
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Speaker 2: and Prince Andrew is to be made an offer he
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Speaker 2: can't refuse in order to.
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Speaker 1: Resolve the problem of royal succession.
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Speaker 2: We'll get to all of that shortly, but first, an
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Speaker 2: increasing number of Australians are turning to medicinal cannabis in
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Speaker 2: a bid to treat mental health conditions. More than seven
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Speaker 2: hundred thousand ossies have been prescribed cannabis in sixty percent
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Speaker 2: of cases to treat mental health problems.
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Speaker 1: But is it effective? That's the question.
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Speaker 2: Well, a study published today in the Lancet Psychiatry Journal
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Speaker 2: says no. The review found there was no evidence to
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Speaker 2: support the idea that medicinal cannabis helped treat anxiety, depression
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Speaker 2: or PTSD. If anything, the evidence says it makes those
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Speaker 2: things worse. The study also found there was flimsy evidence
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Speaker 2: at best to support the use of cannabis for treating ADHD,
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Speaker 2: bipolar and OCD, and yet Australians continue to be prescribed
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Speaker 2: medicinal cannabis in an industry said to be worth a
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Speaker 2: billion dollars.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. So here's my take.
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Speaker 2: This study confirms I think what a lot of us
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Speaker 2: have suspected, that the push for medicinal cannabis is not
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Speaker 2: driven by evidence but by ideology. It's like a thin
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Speaker 2: edge of the wedge for a generally more relaxed approach
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Speaker 2: to what's always been considered and illicit drug.
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Speaker 3: Danika, Look, I'm a little bit on the fence with
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Speaker 3: this one. I was staunchly against medicinal cannabis, but I
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Speaker 3: have softened my stance on it. I personally no longer
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Speaker 3: have an issue with medicinal cannabis. However, and this is
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Speaker 3: the caveat only under strict criteria and only four specific issues.
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Speaker 3: I do not have a problem with it being prescribed
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Speaker 3: in a certain dose. And I'm not talking here's your prescription,
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Speaker 3: take it every single night, But I'm talking a controlled
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Speaker 3: microdose of medicinal cannabis to treat things like pain, if
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Speaker 3: you've got structural issues, back problems, neck, etc. I don't
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Speaker 3: agree with it for depression and anxiety. I mean, heck,
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Speaker 3: everyone's bloody got depression and anxiety these days. But I
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Speaker 3: have seen it in people that I know how well
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Speaker 3: medicinal cannabis works, particularly for people with pain. And I
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Speaker 3: think if it's under a coordinated guidance with your doctor,
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Speaker 3: along with pain medication to help treat certain issues, then
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Speaker 3: who am I to judge a person for wanting to
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Speaker 3: take this for being able to feel better and to
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Speaker 3: have a better night's sleep. That's my argument.
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Speaker 2: The problem though, is that the statistics say six out
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Speaker 2: of ten Aussies being prescribed medicinal cannabis are being prescribed
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Speaker 2: not for issues you've just described, which is fair enough,
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Speaker 2: but for mental health issues where there's scant evidence it helps.
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Speaker 4: And I think actually largely now the availability of medicinal cannabis.
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Speaker 4: I mean I get ads for it on Instagram. I
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Speaker 4: don't know what that says about my algorithm. But when
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Speaker 4: you're on Insta and you're scrolling through reels or whatever
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Speaker 4: and it comes up with an ad. And there's all
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Speaker 4: these companies that sell themselves, as you know, will do
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Speaker 4: the consultation and the prescription, and you go to a
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Speaker 4: pharmacy that we're linked to in the whole thing, right,
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Speaker 4: and the only thing they are dealing with is medicinal cannabis.
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Speaker 4: And they all have names like you know, natural health
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Speaker 4: or something like this, right, try to sell it as though,
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Speaker 4: you know, we have a natural answer to whatever your
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Speaker 4: problem is. There's one of them I've even seen, and
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Speaker 4: I'm doing some research into this at the moment because
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Speaker 4: I think there's a story in it. There's one I've
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Speaker 4: seen where they're advertising, you know, can't get it from
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Speaker 4: a mate's mate, come to us, right. They're basically saying,
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Speaker 4: if you can't get dope, come to us and we'll
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Speaker 4: sort you out. I am worried about that. I think
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Speaker 4: that is a serious concern. I agree with Danika that
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Speaker 4: there are applications where medicinal cannabis I think is legitimate,
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Speaker 4: and there are uses and purposes for it. But I
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Speaker 4: think it's gone too far, and I think evidence like
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Speaker 4: this needs to be taken into account, and that we
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Speaker 4: need to have a proper review of how medicinal cannabis
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Speaker 4: is being used and prescribed in this country. We've had
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Speaker 4: stories where some of these outfits that deal specifically with
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Speaker 4: medicinal cannabis. You know, you've got supposedly ten prescriptions being
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Speaker 4: given out per hour by some doctors. Now you cannot
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Speaker 4: be seriously assessing what someone's situation is if you're churning
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Speaker 4: through that many patients in a day and giving out
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Speaker 4: that many prescriptions in a day. I think this is
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Speaker 4: being rauted. I think it's being abused, and it needs
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Speaker 4: to be properly reviewed.
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Speaker 3: I think I do agree with you. I think the
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Speaker 3: problem is the use of unauthorized products, and I know
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Speaker 3: that the TGA is investigating it. Like, for example, in
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Speaker 3: my local area, there's actually a shop that sells medicinal cannabis,
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Speaker 3: but they're very sneaky about it in their approach, like
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Speaker 3: you might ask them a question. Please, I'm wanting for
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Speaker 3: myself here. I'm not saying this, but you'll ask them
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Speaker 3: a question, for example, how much stock can you give me?
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Speaker 3: And they'll be like, I can't tell you how much
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Speaker 3: stock I can give you of this certain product. They
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Speaker 3: sort of all their way around it to try and
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Speaker 3: get through the guidelines, and that I think is a
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Speaker 3: real problem. But the reality is I mean, we're not
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Speaker 3: talking here about sitting there smoking a bong a bomb, right,
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Speaker 3: This is very, very different. And I would also argue
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Speaker 3: that alcohol is worse than medicinal cannabis. I think alcohol
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Speaker 3: has and alcohol is legal, and alcohol has more impacts
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Speaker 3: on your mental and your physical health than what I
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Speaker 3: think medicinal cannabis is. Now, I'm not disregarding this evidence.
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Speaker 4: When was the last case of someone having psychosis induced by.
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Speaker 3: I'm not talking about again, It's not about psychosis, Caleb, Okay,
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Speaker 3: I'm talking a microdose of medicinal cannabis that has been prescribed.
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Speaker 3: You're not getting high. I'm not talking about it's that
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Speaker 3: the THHC so some that's the that's the psychoactive that
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Speaker 3: gives you the high when when you're on cannabis. But
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Speaker 3: a lot of the medicinal cannabis has either a low dose,
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Speaker 3: some do or have a higher dose. But I'm talking
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Speaker 3: if it's under guidelines where a doctor has given it
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Speaker 3: to you a small dose, under prescription, under guidance, in
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Speaker 3: conjunction with pain medication, then I do not see what
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Speaker 3: the problem is.
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Speaker 2: That local store you told us about in your area
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Speaker 2: where you ask how much can I get and they
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Speaker 2: say wow, sounds like a case of pot luck.
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Speaker 3: Your puns of late have been absolutely outstanding.
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Speaker 4: Jab By the way, your mates who are using this
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Speaker 4: definitely not Danneka to join it.
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Speaker 3: It's definitely not today. Let me just put that on
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Speaker 3: the re In.
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Speaker 4: What form are they getting the product?
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Speaker 3: It's over the counter, so it's not prescribed. It is
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Speaker 3: over the counter at one of these.
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Speaker 4: Sorts of stores. Just walk in and get it.
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Speaker 3: You just walk in and get it. But again, like
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Speaker 3: you said, Caleb, they're not called it's not labeled as
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Speaker 3: medicinal cannabis. It's called something else.
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Speaker 4: So you're saying, this is just are these shops legal.
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Speaker 3: That's a very good question. I don't know. All I
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Speaker 3: can say is that there is one in my local area.
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Speaker 4: And what does it come in? Is it an oil?
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Speaker 3: It comes in an It comes in an oil, and
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Speaker 3: you put it under your tongue.
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Speaker 4: Are they doing this for pain or sleep?
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Speaker 3: Or yes? For pain?
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Speaker 4: And it works and it works and they don't get
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Speaker 4: loopy or anything.
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Speaker 3: No, no, they don't get loopy because there's none of the
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Speaker 3: THHC in it. There's none of that. So you can
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Speaker 3: still drive your car, you can still go to work,
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Speaker 3: you can still go about your life because you're not
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Speaker 3: you know, if you were to get pulled over by
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Speaker 3: the police, you have got no drugs in your system,
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Speaker 3: so you're absolutely fine.
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Speaker 2: But while you argue that this is helpful for I
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Speaker 2: presume people that you know you wouldn't say this is
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Speaker 2: a good thing where you can just obtain it over
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Speaker 2: the counter.
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Speaker 3: I agree, And that's what and I stipulate that, and
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Speaker 3: this is the problem that we've got, and this is
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Speaker 3: what the TGA is investigating. Unauthorized products. I don't agree
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Speaker 3: that you should be able to walk in a shop
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Speaker 3: and do a DIY. Here's your medicinal cannabis. But if
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Speaker 3: it is prescribed properly from a doctor, it's in a microdose.
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Speaker 3: You're not taking the thing every single day, It's okay,
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Speaker 3: let's give it to you once a week or whatever.
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Speaker 3: Then again, I don't have a problem with this. Who
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Speaker 3: a might to judge a person if they want a
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Speaker 3: better night sleep and to make themselves feel better. I
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Speaker 3: just don't have any issues.
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Speaker 2: It just seems to be one of those industries that
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Speaker 2: they really need very tight control on because it's one
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Speaker 2: of those things that can get way out of control.
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Speaker 1: Case in point, without very strict regulation.
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Speaker 4: I'll tell you someone who might need medicinal cannabis. Heck,
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Speaker 4: perhaps go beyond the medicinal product and just give them
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Speaker 4: the full more stuff. You know, they need a bong
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Speaker 4: or something to get over the fact they live in Victoria. Yes,
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Speaker 4: Victorians I think needs something to take the edge of them.
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Speaker 4: And they've got to live with Jacinta Allen as their
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Speaker 4: premier for heaven's sake, the most unpopular premier in the country,
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Speaker 4: according to a poll last week, of course, and the
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Speaker 4: talk now is you've got to state election in November.
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Speaker 4: You've got a rising one nation. What are the chances
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Speaker 4: of the coalition, led of course by opposition leader Jess Wilson,
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Speaker 4: actually being able to put up the fight to Labor
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Speaker 4: and Jacinta Allen? Keeping in mind that Daniel Andrews won
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Speaker 4: the last election four years ago or nearly four years
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Speaker 4: ago with an extra seat, so there is an uphill
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Speaker 4: battle here. All the polls are going the right way,
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Speaker 4: but can you turn it into seats. Well, perhaps if
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Speaker 4: they keep putting out more content like this they might
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Speaker 4: have a chance.
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Speaker 5: Today would have been the opening ceremony for the Comwealth
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Speaker 5: Games here in.
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Speaker 3: Victoria, but Labor canceled the games, dumping a six hundred
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Speaker 3: million dollar weight on all Victorians.
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Speaker 4: So welcome to the Games. The Victoria never hosted first events.
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Speaker 1: The running out of money?
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Speaker 6: We lay next up the fifteen billion dollar.
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Speaker 5: Discus how far can taxpayer money be thrown into waste
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Speaker 5: and corruption? And finally the dead dive the budget bomb
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Speaker 5: and sank further into the red.
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Speaker 4: Hey, Jess Wilson's got her kid off, that's how you
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Speaker 4: win election and worked for Peter Malanowskis last time around,
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Speaker 4: remember that when he under the pool hookie shirt off,
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Speaker 4: people were swooning. She's obviously picked up on the political
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Speaker 4: messaging year now look and it is a little bit
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Speaker 4: cringe worthy, but it's funny. It's actra good funny, it's clever.
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Speaker 4: Today would have been was meant to be the opening
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Speaker 4: ceremony for the Commonwealth Games if it were held in Victoria,
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Speaker 4: as Daniel Andrews told us it would be. So they
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Speaker 4: put this video out to coincide with it, and they
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Speaker 4: managed to get half a million views on that video
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Speaker 4: within six hours. So people are paying attention and it's
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Speaker 4: cutting through. I mean, I can't believe, but we're seeing
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Speaker 4: a liberal party in this country that's actually, you know,
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Speaker 4: actually getting in there and understanding how this stuff work.
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Speaker 2: The best way to destroy bad ideas is to ridicule
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Speaker 2: and mock them. Yes, and this is very funny and
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Speaker 2: it absolutely ridicules the ineptitude of the Victorian labor government.
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Speaker 2: The problem with doing that kind of thing is that
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Speaker 2: you can come off as a smart ass, but their
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Speaker 2: self depreciation through that video where they mock the Victorian
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Speaker 2: labor government, but they take the mickey out of themselves
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Speaker 2: as well, because clearly there's not an athlete among them.
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Speaker 1: Is kind of endearing, so it's very.
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Speaker 4: Clear that's got some guns.
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Speaker 1: I was literally lifting the weights of Highland.
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Speaker 3: The highlight for me was Brad Batten's tats and his guns.
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Speaker 3: I mean, Peter mallenowsk CAZ, you're heard, I could agree,
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Speaker 3: but I agree. I was actually quite stunned at how
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Speaker 3: much negative feedback this video has got online. I was
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Speaker 3: looking at the comments on Twitter and on Instagram. People
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Speaker 3: are bagging it, saying it's cringe worthy, don't do this,
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Speaker 3: don't go down that pathway to Ellen's Instagram, I was
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Speaker 3: going to say the same thing. I mean, and Jess
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Speaker 3: Wilson's got over twenty thousand likes on this post, so
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Speaker 3: if you don't know anything about social media, that is
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Speaker 3: very good engagement. She'd be pretty happy with that. And
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Speaker 3: in the end, I think that the Liberal Party need
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Speaker 3: to try and reach out to gen Z and try
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Speaker 3: and reach out to millennials, because that's where they were
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Speaker 3: sort of lacking at the last election, where you know,
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Speaker 3: you look at what Labour did. This is and I'm
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Speaker 3: talking federally here. They really honed in on that space,
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Speaker 3: trying to get that younger generation on board. So I
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Speaker 3: think that the Liberal Party has to find ways to
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Speaker 3: bring the younger generation. And this is brilliant because they
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Speaker 3: are they're making fun of themself.
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Speaker 4: We've got the guns, therefore they the's twitter kilos he's
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Speaker 4: got in each hand there by the way, James, So
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Speaker 4: I don't think he's doing a bad job. And i'll
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Speaker 4: tell you what. The other thing I saw today from
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Speaker 4: the coalition in Victoria that again made me think perhaps
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Speaker 4: they're getting it. We need more of this was the
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Speaker 4: straight talking of Emma Keeley. She's a National's MP. Might
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Speaker 4: have seen that the story today Aboutjessintera. Allen was grilled
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Speaker 4: on how much he knew about c IFMAU corruption on
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Speaker 4: the big build and she says that, you know, she
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Speaker 4: heard about something in twenty twenty three, but I was
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Speaker 4: all anecdotal and I didn't really think much of it,
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Speaker 4: and she in fact knew earlier and all this sort
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Speaker 4: of stuff, right. Emma Keeley from the Nationals was pretty
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Speaker 4: frank in her assessment.
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Speaker 7: It's utterly butter Bull shared that the premier didn't know
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Speaker 7: about corruption on big guild sides. There were so many
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Speaker 7: whistle blue glowers who may brought this to the attention
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Speaker 7: of the premiere. She did nothing. She knew about the
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Speaker 7: strippers on work sides.
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Speaker 4: She did nothing plain speaking, just you know, meeting people
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Speaker 4: where the plane speaking.
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Speaker 2: It's a cheap attempt to get yourself on TV because
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Speaker 2: if she didn't say bullshit, we wouldn't be talking about it.
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Speaker 1: I think it's cheap.
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Speaker 3: No. I mean, I mean in the end and the
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Speaker 3: premier day, No, but the Premier hasn't been forthcoming on
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Speaker 3: this issue from the start, so I mean, you know,
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Speaker 3: she's got to give an explanation and she's not just
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Speaker 3: going to dog this, but this issue's going to dog
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Speaker 3: the Premiere between now and the next election. And I
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Speaker 3: think that that she was correct. This is absolute bullshit.
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Speaker 2: I agree, But is that the way we're going to
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Speaker 2: go where all our politicians are going to use words
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Speaker 2: like that to try to cut through.
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Speaker 3: I see your point, But I mean, she's at least
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Speaker 3: she's a straight talker. She's not lying. It is true.
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Speaker 1: I'm not lying. It's just not very eloquent.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but who cares people talk? I mean, that's
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Speaker 3: the Aussie words.
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Speaker 4: I'm going to understand that you know the things that
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Speaker 4: people are talking about when they gather with their mates
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Speaker 4: on the weekend at the barbecue, that's her. They're talking
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Speaker 4: about these issues. I don't think there's anything wrong. Look,
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Speaker 4: it doesn't mean that, you know, you should be standing
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Speaker 4: up in parliament every second words the F word. But
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Speaker 4: but I don't think there's anything wrong with demonstrating and
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Speaker 4: talking to people in the language that they themselves used.
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Speaker 2: Like I said, I don't disagree with what she said obviously,
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Speaker 2: just but I don't know.
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Speaker 1: The PM did it the other day and he made news.
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Speaker 3: I think he was talking to and I think recently Cash.
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Speaker 2: Now this it's becoming a little bit common.
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Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, I don't know. I think it's the
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Speaker 3: everyday person, every day, how everyone's having a chat. Well, look,
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Speaker 3: let's change pace a bit, because here is a plot
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Speaker 3: twist in Iran that I don't think anybody saw coming.
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Speaker 3: The new Supreme Leader of Iran, Mushtaba Kamina, is apparently
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Speaker 3: gay now. According to The New York Post, they have
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Speaker 3: quoted US intelligence as saying that his father, the late
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Speaker 3: Ayatola Ali Kamine, feared that he's feared his suitability to
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Speaker 3: rule the Islamic Republic for that exact reason, and have
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Speaker 3: a look at this. Sources told the New York Posts
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Speaker 3: that mosh Taba, who earned the nickname the power behind
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Speaker 3: the Robes. Gee, I'm sure make a few jokes about
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Speaker 3: that one now behind he's had a few robes, had
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Speaker 3: a long term sexual relationship with his childhood tutor. But
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Speaker 3: get this, Donald Trump was so stunned to hear the
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Speaker 3: news he was told this in an official US briefing
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Speaker 3: that he couldn't contain his surprise and apparently burst out laughing.
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Speaker 3: And it got me wondering, was this how the briefing went?
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Speaker 3: Are you a homosexual?
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Speaker 4: I am, yes, mister Trump, I know is yes, it
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Speaker 4: is okay.
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Speaker 3: But do you know that Clay was gay?
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Speaker 6: Yes?
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Speaker 1: I did?
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Speaker 3: He will we first everybody know this.
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Speaker 6: I didn't know him.
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Speaker 3: I can't even believe that clip exists. But apparently others
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Speaker 3: in the briefing room also found this hilarious. And this
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Speaker 3: is hilarious because of the blatant obvious reason. Do you
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Speaker 3: know what they do to homosexuals in Iran? They hang them,
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Speaker 3: They hang them from cranes, and they sentenced them to death.
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Speaker 3: So this is quite extraordinary. But the New York Post
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Speaker 3: is actually saying that this is credible intelligence and it's
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Speaker 3: been ticked off by US intelligence figures. It could obviously
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Speaker 3: pose a lot of issues given the situation. Not that
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Speaker 3: mosh Taba Kamine has been seen in public. He is
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Speaker 3: missing in action right now since the February twenty eight strikes.
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Speaker 3: He released a statement, but remember it was delivered the
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Speaker 3: other day verbally, so we don't know his status. He
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Speaker 3: could be disfigured, but we don't know. But gee, this
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Speaker 3: is a revelation.
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Speaker 1: Just mean the strait of Humuzi's straight. That's what we're
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Speaker 1: to draw from this.
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Speaker 2: The irony I mean is that the new Supreme Leader
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Speaker 2: of Iran is safer in tel Aviv. Yes, then in
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Speaker 2: his own country because tel Aviv they have gay Mardi Gras.
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Speaker 2: You can be LGBTQ or any combination of the above
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Speaker 2: in Israel. But of course, as you said, Danika, in Tehran,
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Speaker 2: where he is now the leader, it does explain why
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Speaker 2: his father was reportedly reluctant to ever promote him and
17:43
Speaker 2: push him forward. If the rumor is true, then obviously
17:46
Speaker 2: it presents a massive problem if you are the gay
17:50
Speaker 2: leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran. That's a pretty
17:54
Speaker 2: awkward position in which to find yourself, Caleb, So it
17:58
Speaker 2: explains a lot of things.
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Speaker 4: I think he's the perfect man for the job, to
18:02
Speaker 4: be perfectly. I mean, look, if he's gay, let's let
18:05
Speaker 4: him be the leader of Iran, because you know, maybe
18:09
Speaker 4: he'll lead to a few reforms, you know, I mean,
18:11
Speaker 4: how could you lead a country in which you yourself would
18:14
Speaker 4: be put to death? He could be the great reformer
18:16
Speaker 4: of Iran for all we know. I mean, so apparently
18:19
Speaker 4: he's he could have, according to various sources, had a
18:23
Speaker 4: long term relationship with his childhood tutor, who's presumably a man.
18:29
Speaker 4: Other intelligence sources have said that since he's been in hospital,
18:33
Speaker 4: he's been mercilessly hitting on the male nurses and staff, doctors,
18:38
Speaker 4: et cetera in the hospital. So, I mean, you know,
18:42
Speaker 4: good luck to the fella. If he's able to get
18:45
Speaker 4: hold of running Iran and it happens to be gay,
18:48
Speaker 4: I reckon it could be good for maybe people will
18:50
Speaker 4: come around and start to see that even if your
18:54
Speaker 4: religious leaders can be gay, then it's okay. Though. The
18:57
Speaker 4: Babylon b which is the satirical outfits of the ants
19:02
Speaker 4: of the lifts. The Onion put up this post online
19:04
Speaker 4: which I thought was quite funny, noting that when he
19:08
Speaker 4: gets to heaven he'll find that his seventy two virgins
19:10
Speaker 4: are actually women happy but means all lighting the irony
19:16
Speaker 4: is thick and I think it's brilliant.
19:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure how Quiz for Palestine will respond
19:20
Speaker 2: on It'll be interesting to watch their reaction. Now, while
19:23
Speaker 2: we're talking about Iran, obviously, with the situation in the
19:26
Speaker 2: Middle East, pretty much every country in the world, certainly
19:29
Speaker 2: in the West, is facing fuel shortages. In the UK,
19:33
Speaker 2: they've come up with a novel way to address the
19:35
Speaker 2: fuel crisis. They're talking about imposing speed limit restrictions as
19:41
Speaker 2: a way of forcing people to conserve petrol. Now other
19:45
Speaker 2: things they've suggested a rationing, promoting fuel for energy services,
19:51
Speaker 2: primarily getting the military involved, encouraging people to work from
19:55
Speaker 2: home so they're not using their cars as much. But
19:58
Speaker 2: Pakistan recent the introduced new speed limits to try to
20:03
Speaker 2: help people conserve fuel, and now this is what's being
20:05
Speaker 2: actively considered in the UK. Strikes me as a little
20:09
Speaker 2: bit convenient. I'm not sure how much fuel would be
20:12
Speaker 2: saved by getting people to drive it eighty kilometers an
20:15
Speaker 2: hour rather than one hundred. But what's that saying? Never
20:19
Speaker 2: let a good crisis go to waste. And of course
20:22
Speaker 2: we know climate catastrophists as well as those inner city
20:26
Speaker 2: greens who want to reduce speed limits to a walk
20:30
Speaker 2: so that people give up their cars and walk. They
20:33
Speaker 2: won't miss a chance to impose those sorts of policies.
20:36
Speaker 2: And I wonder if there's a little bit of that
20:39
Speaker 2: feeding in to their response to the fuel.
20:42
Speaker 3: Crist Well g don't tell the Lord Mayor of Sydney this,
20:44
Speaker 3: Cliver Moore, tell you to get your e by account
20:46
Speaker 3: and give that a go. But you're right. So that's
20:48
Speaker 3: down to eighty kilometers an hour, and on the general
20:50
Speaker 3: motorways in the UK goes up to one hundred and
20:52
Speaker 3: ten k's an hour. I am not so sure how
20:55
Speaker 3: much fuel this will save personally, but it goes to
20:59
Speaker 3: show again how ill prepared governments around the world have
21:03
Speaker 3: been for any sort of potential crisis. I mean, it's
21:05
Speaker 3: happening here at Australia. Bowen's now blaming us for it.
21:08
Speaker 3: One minute he's saying this, one minute is saying that
21:10
Speaker 3: in UK labor the same thing, and the other thing
21:12
Speaker 3: they're considering, other than petrol rationing, is to even bring
21:14
Speaker 3: the army in. I was reading soldiers could be drafted
21:17
Speaker 3: to make field deliveries. That this is just insane that
21:21
Speaker 3: it's reached this point because governments haven't prepared for any
21:26
Speaker 3: sort of crisis. It's like when they were caught off
21:27
Speaker 3: the hop with COVID again. They just ill prepared.
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Speaker 1: I mean, this is their policy. What are we going
21:32
Speaker 1: to about the fuel crisis? I know, drive slower, that's
21:35
Speaker 1: hard plan.
21:37
Speaker 4: They've always wanted to do it, and here's the chance, Oh,
21:39
Speaker 4: you could do what they've done in Sri Lanka. I'm
21:41
Speaker 4: sure people may will be supportive of this one. They've
21:44
Speaker 4: just declared earlier today that Wednesdays going forward are going
21:49
Speaker 4: to be public holidays so that people don't drive and
21:52
Speaker 4: ride to work so that they can save fuel. So
21:55
Speaker 4: they're saying, have Wednesday off in order to save the fuel.
21:59
Speaker 4: I mean, look, plenty of people I'm sure would be
22:02
Speaker 4: on board with that idea. But how ridiculous that we
22:05
Speaker 4: are in this position, as you say, I mean, we
22:07
Speaker 4: haven't met our ninety day target in Australia for the
22:11
Speaker 4: oil we should be keeping for years and that's an
22:14
Speaker 4: international obligation that we're meant to be under and we
22:17
Speaker 4: can't do it. And Chris Bowe keeps jumping up and
22:20
Speaker 4: down and saying, oh, you know, we've got more fuel
22:22
Speaker 4: than we did under the previous government, and we may
22:25
Speaker 4: well do, but it's still only like a month's worth.
22:28
Speaker 4: We're now in the position of from today they're allowing
22:32
Speaker 4: this dirtier fuel with a higher sulfur content to go
22:37
Speaker 4: out into Australian cars, which we otherwise would have exported
22:41
Speaker 4: in order to get more fuel out there. We're simply
22:44
Speaker 4: in a position that should scare us. I mean, what
22:48
Speaker 4: would you do? This is we're talking about, you know,
22:50
Speaker 4: one straight has been locked up. What would we do
22:53
Speaker 4: if we were at war?
22:55
Speaker 8: If we were actually at war right now, we don't
22:57
Speaker 8: have any reserves, we'd be done with an a month,
23:00
Speaker 8: and what do we do then we're basically like sitting ducks, Like,
23:03
Speaker 8: how's no one worried about this for all this time?
23:06
Speaker 4: No?
23:06
Speaker 3: And they keep saying to us, look, don't panic buy,
23:08
Speaker 3: don't panic by And I can't understand that's obviously it
23:11
Speaker 3: isn't helping the situation. But you know, people, especially farmers
23:16
Speaker 3: out in the country that their livelihood depends on being
23:19
Speaker 3: able to use a vehicle to use the you to
23:21
Speaker 3: fill up with diesel. They rely on this, so you
23:24
Speaker 3: can understand right now why people are so concerned, and
23:28
Speaker 3: Bowen and Jim Chalmers actually making it worse with the rhetoric.
23:32
Speaker 3: They're not doing anything to ease the minds of Ozzie's
23:35
Speaker 3: who are worried.
23:36
Speaker 2: When we get to the papers a little later in
23:38
Speaker 2: the program, a foreign leader has taken a real shot
23:40
Speaker 2: at the Australian government, calling them a cocky in terms
23:44
Speaker 2: of their attitude towards world events, particularly relating to our
23:49
Speaker 2: inability to conserve enough fuel to prepare for a rainy
23:52
Speaker 2: days such as we're currently experiencing. That's coming out later
23:55
Speaker 2: when we look at what's making news tomorrow.
23:57
Speaker 4: Indeed, now, thankfully we live in a country where we
23:59
Speaker 4: can say all the things about our Prime minister and
24:01
Speaker 4: our political leaders and we don't get shot in the
24:03
Speaker 4: head for doing so. It's called freedom. But can you
24:07
Speaker 4: be sacked for criticizing your boss? Well, one woman by
24:11
Speaker 4: the name of a name, sorry of Denise, and I'm
24:13
Speaker 4: going to try her surname. Apologies if this is incorrect,
24:16
Speaker 4: but I think this is how you pronounce it unter
24:18
Speaker 4: vert vertsaka, that's exactly what I want intervertsaka. I think
24:24
Speaker 4: is the you in terwu are z acer unter vertsaker. Anyway, Denise,
24:32
Speaker 4: we will call her for simplicity worked it at Lassian,
24:36
Speaker 4: of course, the major Australian based software company. She was
24:40
Speaker 4: working out of the US, and you would have seen
24:43
Speaker 4: the stories we talked about last week that they're laying
24:45
Speaker 4: off all these people thanks to AI. And they went
24:47
Speaker 4: through a large round of layoff, sorry I should say
24:51
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty three and Mike canon Brooks, the Greenie
24:56
Speaker 4: leader CEO of at Lassian, called up on a zoom
25:00
Speaker 4: call to tell his staff that all of this was
25:03
Speaker 4: going on. And in the messages on the call, lots
25:07
Speaker 4: of staff were complaining about it and saying it was
25:09
Speaker 4: wrong and whatever, and so Mike canon Brooks hit out
25:12
Speaker 4: at them. According to filings in a court in Texas,
25:15
Speaker 4: he said to them that he'd had a gut full
25:17
Speaker 4: of people who don't trust in leadership and if you
25:20
Speaker 4: want to knock on, go somewhere else. So this woman,
25:24
Speaker 4: Denise decided that that is exactly what she would do.
25:28
Speaker 4: She went into a group chat, part of their Slack group,
25:32
Speaker 4: which is an internal thing, so it is a work
25:34
Speaker 4: communication system. But she goes on to the group chat
25:38
Speaker 4: and says, what's up outrages. This is one of the names.
25:42
Speaker 4: It was called outrage something or another the group What's
25:45
Speaker 4: up outrages? Just darling in from my NBA team's headquarters
25:48
Speaker 4: to yell at the people's whose careers I've just pummeled.
25:51
Speaker 9: Now.
25:52
Speaker 4: Indeed, mister canon Brooks had called in from the headquarters
25:55
Speaker 4: of an NBA team that he co owns, and a
25:58
Speaker 4: few days later they sat to her for having sent
26:01
Speaker 4: that message and said that she had engaged in acrimonious
26:04
Speaker 4: communications and add hominem attacks against teammates and colleagues. She's
26:09
Speaker 4: now challenging this in the court in Texas because she
26:13
Speaker 4: thought that she was simply adhering to Atlasian's values. Now,
26:17
Speaker 4: if you go to the Atlasian website and it says
26:20
Speaker 4: on their their core values, the first core value is
26:24
Speaker 4: quote open company, no bullshit. And so she thought, well,
26:29
Speaker 4: I mean, surely that means I can criticize the boss
26:34
Speaker 4: and that will be fine. They say no, that they
26:36
Speaker 4: have said in the court at Lassian and that she
26:40
Speaker 4: had suggested he was a rich jerk and that that
26:43
Speaker 4: was enough reason to sack her. I don't know. It
26:45
Speaker 4: kind of opens up an interesting question how far can
26:48
Speaker 4: you go in being critical of your boss, Because let's
26:51
Speaker 4: be fair, if we sacked everyone who didn't like their boss,
26:55
Speaker 4: there'd be a lot of people who don't know tomorrow.
26:58
Speaker 2: Usue is not that she didn't like her boss. The
27:00
Speaker 2: issue is that she publicly, and worse, in a work setting,
27:04
Speaker 2: exactly attacked, belittled, and ridiculed her boss. Now, if you've
27:09
Speaker 2: got an open company, no bullshit, that is clearly a
27:12
Speaker 2: license to speak freely about where the company should go,
27:15
Speaker 2: how you feel about what's working, what's not working. For
27:18
Speaker 2: someone to think, oh, that's licensed to just say whatever
27:21
Speaker 2: I want about the boss, things that you wouldn't normally
27:24
Speaker 2: dare say, she's just a moron.
27:26
Speaker 3: I agree. And the fact is she used Slack, which
27:28
Speaker 3: is the company's I guess messaging system not advisable. It's
27:33
Speaker 3: not advisable. But isn't that just dumb? Why would you
27:36
Speaker 3: bag out your boss on an actual inter company system
27:40
Speaker 3: and think that that is okay? I actually agree with
27:43
Speaker 3: what at Lassian has done here. I think get rid
27:46
Speaker 3: of her. If you are going to make a criticism
27:48
Speaker 3: of your boss, you do it outside. You do it
27:50
Speaker 3: in public and in private, not in an open forum
27:53
Speaker 3: like this. So no, I absolutely think what she has
27:56
Speaker 3: done is correct.
27:58
Speaker 4: Here and Brooks we're talking about by the way, I mean,
28:02
Speaker 4: the guy does deserve some criticism from climate change floes
28:06
Speaker 4: around on his private jit. Yeah, you know he's calling
28:08
Speaker 4: into Sacki's staff while he's I think she's got a point.
28:12
Speaker 1: You're not the ballance of point the argument, right.
28:14
Speaker 2: He probably escalated things by talking to his staff the
28:18
Speaker 2: way that he reportedly did, where he said if you
28:20
Speaker 2: don't like it, just knock awful or whatever it was
28:22
Speaker 2: that he said, which was fairly inflammatory.
28:27
Speaker 1: But still you should, as.
28:29
Speaker 2: An adult know that your boss may talk like that,
28:32
Speaker 2: but if you would like your wage paid next Thursday,
28:35
Speaker 2: bank account you.
28:36
Speaker 3: Don't exactly, it's it's very very silly. Now, look at
28:39
Speaker 3: you might remember Joy Reid. She is the former MSNBC
28:43
Speaker 3: host who was last year sacked because her ratings were
28:46
Speaker 3: so diabolicle. Yeah, that might trigger your memory there. She's
28:51
Speaker 3: suffering from a chronic and acute case of Trump arrangement. Syndrome.
28:54
Speaker 3: It is so bad it's actually infested into her brain.
28:58
Speaker 3: So she's got from MSNBC to host her own podcast.
29:01
Speaker 3: I don't think the podcast is doing too well either,
29:03
Speaker 3: because the only thing she ever talks about is Donald Trump.
29:06
Speaker 3: But here she was today having what I would describe
29:09
Speaker 3: as a real, totally normal one. She is now suggesting
29:12
Speaker 3: that Americans would be American women rather would actually be
29:16
Speaker 3: better off living in Iran than America.
29:22
Speaker 9: Our regime has secret police.
29:23
Speaker 1: They have secret police.
29:24
Speaker 9: Our regime is oppressing women, taking away abortion rates, taking
29:27
Speaker 9: away women's rights in like twenty six country, twenty six
29:31
Speaker 9: steats some states where they're trying to have the death
29:33
Speaker 9: penalty for having an abortion, they also oppress women.
29:37
Speaker 10: So we're marginally better.
29:38
Speaker 9: And we're doing it for Christianity. They're doing it for Islam, right,
29:41
Speaker 9: So it's like we don't get told those things because
29:43
Speaker 9: it would take it would take away the kind of
29:46
Speaker 9: American exceptionalism narrative.
29:49
Speaker 3: Yes, good to see Joy living up to her reputation
29:51
Speaker 3: as the chief number one lunatic. Let's talk about how
29:55
Speaker 3: women are treated in Iran. Firstly, they can't go outside
29:59
Speaker 3: without covering them face and hair. Lucky for joy Read,
30:02
Speaker 3: she can do that freely in America. Secondly, women in
30:05
Speaker 3: Iran need permission from men to do anything they want.
30:08
Speaker 3: They always need to be in the company of men.
30:11
Speaker 3: Unlike joy Reid, who doesn't need permission at all. She
30:14
Speaker 3: lives freely to go where she wants to see whomever
30:17
Speaker 3: she wants. And Thirdly, women are treated like dogs in Iran,
30:22
Speaker 3: like third class citizens. Lucky for joy Read, she actually
30:26
Speaker 3: has the ability to hold a job to do a
30:28
Speaker 3: podcast if she want to earn money. Wouldn't Iranian women
30:32
Speaker 3: love love that opportunity? I mean seriously, and have a
30:37
Speaker 3: listen to this. This is the problem with liberal women
30:40
Speaker 3: or the left in general. There is a wonderful podcaster
30:44
Speaker 3: over in the United States and she goes around interviewing
30:47
Speaker 3: members of the public, and she asked them, would you
30:49
Speaker 3: be comfortable next to somebody shouting Ala wakba or next
30:52
Speaker 3: to somebody wearing a maga hat.
30:55
Speaker 10: Here's the response, who do that more in common? Whether
30:58
Speaker 10: Trump supporter or radicalist, regular Islamist. You saw someone wearing
31:03
Speaker 10: one of those red hats chanting make America great again,
31:07
Speaker 10: or you saw someone shouting a lot huark bar running
31:10
Speaker 10: down the breezeway here. Who would you feel more safe.
31:12
Speaker 6: With the one shouting yeah?
31:14
Speaker 10: What it is about Trump supporters that you don't think
31:16
Speaker 10: you'd get along with them? So well, I'm gay, but
31:20
Speaker 10: you would do? You would get along with the radical Islamist? Yes?
31:24
Speaker 10: And you're gay?
31:24
Speaker 3: Yes, But we should be able to allow people to
31:26
Speaker 3: be who they are.
31:27
Speaker 10: Yeah, I even if they're a radical Islamist.
31:30
Speaker 1: Yes, there's no right to judge that.
31:33
Speaker 3: Well, guess what the Ayatolla is apparently gay as well,
31:36
Speaker 3: So well, you're all in great company together. But this
31:38
Speaker 3: is the mindset of the left, isn't it. They're so dumb,
31:41
Speaker 3: so deluded, they've got no brains. Now, listen, if if
31:44
Speaker 3: somebody was coming at me shouting Ala Wakbar from one
31:47
Speaker 3: end of the city to another, I'd run for my life.
31:49
Speaker 3: I would be genuinely scared, because that is what we
31:52
Speaker 3: hear come out of the mounds of radical Islamists in multiple,
31:56
Speaker 3: multiple terror attacks around around the world. But they're so
31:59
Speaker 3: dumb that they're scared by maga hats. I mean goodness sake.
32:04
Speaker 4: Really, she doesn't even say would you feel more comfortable
32:09
Speaker 4: with a Muslim than someone wearing a mate? She literally
32:12
Speaker 4: says radical Islamist, like would you rather stand next to
32:17
Speaker 4: the worst of the worst or someone who voted for
32:20
Speaker 4: Donald Trump? Like yeah, yeah, yeah, You've got no right
32:23
Speaker 4: to judge a radicalism. I'm sorry, yes we do. Like
32:28
Speaker 4: I can't work at whether these people are actually that
32:31
Speaker 4: dumb that they genuinely think they would be safe and
32:34
Speaker 4: next to a radical Islamist. You know, if you're that suicidal,
32:38
Speaker 4: call lifeline or do they just think that they're saying
32:42
Speaker 4: something edgy? And you know, I wouldn't stir next.
32:44
Speaker 1: To a murger boots.
32:46
Speaker 2: I think they're products of the last what thirty forty
32:48
Speaker 2: years of Western culture.
32:50
Speaker 1: We embraced moral relativism.
32:52
Speaker 2: Who am I to say what's right? Who are you
32:53
Speaker 2: to say what's right? What's right for you might not
32:55
Speaker 2: be right for me. No one can really say, And
32:59
Speaker 2: moral relativism always moves to cultural relativism. Who are we
33:02
Speaker 2: to say that the West is better than the Islamic world?
33:05
Speaker 2: I can't say that maybe Iran is better than America.
33:09
Speaker 2: And so these people are deeply infected with a hatred
33:12
Speaker 2: for the West, and they hate the West because it's
33:14
Speaker 2: built on Judeo Christian values, which is moral absolutes. They
33:18
Speaker 2: don't want moral absolutes, so they hate the West. The
33:21
Speaker 2: irony is they embrace a totalitarian regime. You want to
33:25
Speaker 2: talk about absolutes, the Islamic regime of Iran, and they
33:30
Speaker 2: demonstrate not only their hatred of the West, but their
33:32
Speaker 2: absolute ignorance of Islam, and particularly radical Islam.
33:36
Speaker 1: So we've got a lot of work to do with
33:38
Speaker 1: our younger generation.
33:39
Speaker 2: There's also a lot of work to do for the
33:41
Speaker 2: Inner West Council if they want to make residents happy
33:44
Speaker 2: here in Sydney now. They tried to do a good
33:47
Speaker 2: thing the Inner West Council. They announced a greenway that's
33:51
Speaker 2: a nature walk that inner city dwellers could participate on,
33:56
Speaker 2: perhaps on a Saturday morning. They advertised it as uninterrupt
34:00
Speaker 2: did green corridor six kilometers in length where you can walk,
34:04
Speaker 2: run or cycle. The problem is it wasn't uninterrupted. The
34:08
Speaker 2: two areas of green walkway are joined by a street
34:13
Speaker 2: that used to be quiet until the local council encouraged
34:17
Speaker 2: everybody to start walking through it. Have a look at
34:19
Speaker 2: a typical Saturday on this once quiet street.
34:38
Speaker 4: Well.
34:38
Speaker 2: Residents are furious. They say the noise is non stop.
34:41
Speaker 2: There's dog poo everywhere. Their gardens are being trod on.
34:45
Speaker 2: It's only a matter of time, they warn, before someone
34:47
Speaker 2: gets run over. And they've taken to putting signs up
34:51
Speaker 2: on poles saying things like footpaths are hard and noisy,
34:55
Speaker 2: we can hear you talking and no one needs to
34:58
Speaker 2: hear your earbud convo, and we do. The council are
35:02
Speaker 2: refusing to do anything about it at this point, Kaylor,
35:04
Speaker 2: because they say the greenway is working fantastically well, and
35:08
Speaker 2: it is unless you happen to live on that stretch of.
35:12
Speaker 4: I'm sure by the metric of people are using it,
35:14
Speaker 4: it's working exceedingly well. But it is a bit unfair. Look, normally,
35:18
Speaker 4: I don't like the Nimbi's and all these people who
35:20
Speaker 4: move in next to a pub and then they complain
35:22
Speaker 4: that the pub's making noise. What did you expect you
35:25
Speaker 4: moved in next door to that. But if you move
35:27
Speaker 4: into a quiet suburban street and then all of a
35:29
Speaker 4: sudden they're making thousands of people go through there, I
35:32
Speaker 4: think you've actually got a legitimate case to say to
35:36
Speaker 4: the council that they have changed the character of your area.
35:39
Speaker 4: And you move into an area because it's a certain
35:41
Speaker 4: way and you live there because it's a certain way,
35:44
Speaker 4: and what right of the council to come along and
35:47
Speaker 4: change that on?
35:48
Speaker 3: And also I think it would actually devalue their properties
35:50
Speaker 3: because if they were to go and sell it, that
35:52
Speaker 3: would put people off knowing that that sort of noise
35:55
Speaker 3: and carry on is happening all the time. I think
35:57
Speaker 3: they have a fair point.
35:58
Speaker 2: Really quickly, before we go to the break, Andrew has
36:01
Speaker 2: been offered the opportunity to renounce succession to the throne.
36:06
Speaker 2: Rather than go through a court case, just deal with
36:08
Speaker 2: it quietly, get it done. Do you think it would
36:10
Speaker 2: be wise enough to take up that offer?
36:11
Speaker 4: Probably not. He should do it, But why would he
36:14
Speaker 4: do that? He's come this far.
36:15
Speaker 3: Well, he should do it because right now he's banished
36:17
Speaker 3: with his dogs inside Sandring having the bloke can't even
36:20
Speaker 3: ride a horse. It's time to give it up. Andrew off,
36:22
Speaker 3: here go, you've already lost trot off.
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Speaker 2: If he does, it'll be the first good decision he's
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Speaker 2: made in quite some time.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to take a break.
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Speaker 2: When we come back, look at what's making news tomorrow,
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Speaker 2: including recession fears growing and New Zealand's Foreign minister accuses
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Speaker 2: Australian government of being cocky when it comes to world events.
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Speaker 2: That's next, Welcome back to the program. Let's take a
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Speaker 2: look at what's making headlines tomorrow and Caleb. Most of
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Speaker 2: the papers talking about the economy.
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Speaker 4: Indeed, they will go through some of them, starting with
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Speaker 4: the Advertiser, where they say war on Jim flahation. RBA
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Speaker 4: raises rates to tame inflation inflicted at home, which is
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Speaker 4: of course crucial to all of this. The government will
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Speaker 4: be saying it's come from Iran and the RBA says otherwise.
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Speaker 4: On the front of the Herald Sun they say Ozzie's
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Speaker 4: shell shocked at Jim as Jim out of answers one
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Speaker 4: battle after another, and little image digitally altered image of
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Speaker 4: the treasurer down in the corner their first petrol prices now,
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Speaker 4: interest rates surge and recession fears grow, and on the
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Speaker 4: Canberra Times they say buyers now more wary. The average
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Speaker 4: monthly mortgage repayment rises to almost five thousand, five hundred
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Speaker 4: dollars after interest rate hight. And it continues on the
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Speaker 4: Australian Tomorrow Deneka, Yes it does.
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Speaker 3: The front page of the Australian Rate rise we had
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Speaker 3: to have. Reserve Bank Governor Michelle Bullock is hoping a
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Speaker 3: second consecutive interest rate rise, bringing Australia to the highest
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Speaker 3: in the western world, will not tip the country into
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Speaker 3: a recession, warning that the days of two to three
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Speaker 3: percent over. Miss Bullock also cautioned any restart of government
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Speaker 3: subsidies to deal with the global oil shocks sparked by
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Speaker 3: the war in the Middle East. And look just on
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Speaker 3: that point, right, I mean, this is a problem. A
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Speaker 3: lot of this, don't forget, other than government spending. Right
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Speaker 3: when it comes to inflation, a lot of it has
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Speaker 3: been caused by these subsidies from both state at a
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Speaker 3: state and federal level. Because we knew what was going
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Speaker 3: to happen. When say, the energy subsidies peter out, inflation
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Speaker 3: was always going to go in the opposite direction. So,
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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know how many more times Jim
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Speaker 3: Chalmers can be worn by the RBA and by prominent
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Speaker 3: economists across this country. But of course, now the war
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Speaker 3: in Iran is just a very inconvenient excuse for Jim Chalmers,
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Speaker 3: isn't it for his own economic mess?
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Speaker 4: So well convenient? I don't know, is it convenient because
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Speaker 4: I'm not sure people are buying it. There was a
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Speaker 4: poll the other day that said people blame inflation and
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Speaker 4: interest rate rises in this country on the government. They're
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Speaker 4: not blaming it on Iran, and so I think it'll
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Speaker 4: be a very difficult message for or the government to
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Speaker 4: sell because they have crowed so much about the fact
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Speaker 4: that you had you know, what was it, thirteen interest
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Speaker 4: rate rises under the previous government, and you know under
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Speaker 4: us finally it's on the decline. Well, the risk now
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Speaker 4: is that interest rates will actually go higher than they
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Speaker 4: ever were before, and you've completely lost the argument. Then
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Speaker 4: you've got nothing to crow about. People are not going
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Speaker 4: to buy that it has anything to do with a run,
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Speaker 4: because sure they might see an increase in their petrol
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Speaker 4: prices at the moment, but they're not going to turn
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Speaker 4: around and go, oh yeah, because petrol went up a dollar,
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Speaker 4: that now means that my mortgage has gone up by
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Speaker 4: five hundred dollars or whatever it happens to be. Well,
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Speaker 4: it is between seventeen one hundred dollars a month on
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Speaker 4: average from today's change, right, So if you're going I'm
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Speaker 4: paying one thousand dollars extra or more a year on
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Speaker 4: my mortgage. They're not going to connect that to petrol
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Speaker 4: at all. They're going to connect it to everything else
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Speaker 4: that has been going on four years. So I think
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Speaker 4: it puts them in a really precarious position. And the
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Speaker 4: RBA those comments from the Governor Michelle Bullok. She's not
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Speaker 4: ruling out a recession, no, she's basically saying, if recession
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Speaker 4: is where we go in order to correct this, that's
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Speaker 4: where we're going to go, and that will be a
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Speaker 4: world of pain for the federal government.
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Speaker 2: The language Jim Chalmers is using, and it's on the
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Speaker 2: front page of the OS tomorrow. We already had an
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Speaker 2: inflation challenge, she calls it in our country, but the
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Speaker 2: war in the Middle East is making this challenge worse.
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Speaker 1: So you can see what he's trying to do.
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying we didn't have a challenge, but now
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Speaker 2: it's that much worse. The implication being it was a challenge,
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Speaker 2: but we had it under control. If it gets out
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Speaker 2: of control, that's because of the war, not because of us.
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Speaker 2: That's the needle he's going to try and thread. Interesting
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Speaker 2: to see if people take to it.
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Speaker 3: And just on the other front page as well, there's
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Speaker 3: also some later breaking news, but I just want to
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Speaker 3: get to this. On the other front page there, New
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Speaker 3: Zealand's Foreign Minister Winston Peters says his country and Australia
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Speaker 3: should have been better prepared for the Iran war oil
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Speaker 3: crisis and made serious mistakes in allowing fuel refineries to
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Speaker 3: close because quote, they were too cocky about the state
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Speaker 3: of the world. I mean, this is just extraordinary. This
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Speaker 3: is exactly what we were talking about earlier with the
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Speaker 3: UK wanting to lower the speed limits now to deal
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Speaker 3: with it. They were too slow, and I think that
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Speaker 3: Winston Peters is absolutely correct in his terminology here. The
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Speaker 3: governments have been too cocky thinking oh well, no, it's
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Speaker 3: never going to happen, there's not going to be any problems,
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Speaker 3: and now look at the state that they're in. And
41:23
Speaker 3: also just some later breaking news as well, which the
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Speaker 3: Australian is covering. You may have heard it earlier on
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Speaker 3: Shari Marksen's program. Iran's national security chief Bazzij Commander, has
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Speaker 3: been eliminated. The Israeli Defense Minister Israel Katz has confirmed
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Speaker 3: that the Israeli military killed top Iranian security official Ali
41:44
Speaker 3: Larijani in an overnight strike. The military also announced it
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Speaker 3: killed Gollriza Solomoni, the head of the revolution regards all
41:52
Speaker 3: volunteer Bassij force. This is a massive development and again
41:57
Speaker 3: goes to the work that Donald Trump and the Israeli
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Speaker 3: Defense Force are doing in this region, because you've got
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Speaker 3: now key top officials of the Axis of Evil basically
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Speaker 3: all being eliminated one by one, and it's just further
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Speaker 3: proof of how weaken the regime.
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Speaker 2: Is Larajani was the mastermind of the crackdown on Iranian
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Speaker 2: civilians where it's believed up to thirty thousand people were killed.
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Speaker 2: So I don't think anyone will be missing him having
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Speaker 2: been taken out.
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Speaker 1: Just one quick question.
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Speaker 2: In this article about Winston Peter's calling Australian government cocky,
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Speaker 2: it says that Richard Marles has revealed that an Australian
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Speaker 2: aircraft has been gathering data on Iranian forces. That data
42:44
Speaker 2: is being fed to US and Israeli military, but our
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Speaker 2: government maintains this is only for defensive purposes.
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Speaker 1: We're not involved in the war. Is that reasonable? Do
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Speaker 1: you think?
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Speaker 4: Well? I suppose it depends what you mean by involved
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Speaker 4: in the war. We're not firing rockets or shooting at anyone.
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Speaker 4: I suppose what we are doing is on the lower
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Speaker 4: end of the scales. Get it is kind of splitting
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Speaker 4: his But we're not still not involved in active combat,
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Speaker 4: I think is the point he's trying to make. But
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Speaker 4: Winston Peters is right. I mean, you know, we have
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Speaker 4: just given up all our sovereign capability. I thought we
43:18
Speaker 4: learned this lesson during COVID, but we have not.
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Speaker 3: No, and just quickly, Trump's pledged to take Cuba. Donald
43:23
Speaker 3: Trump is vowed to take Cuba as the island nation
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Speaker 3: plunged into darkness under a total power blackout link to
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Speaker 3: America's crippling oil in Bargo. After nearly seven decades defying
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Speaker 3: the US, Havana's communist regime is now under massive pressure
43:38
Speaker 3: from a Trump administration out to make history. Mister Trump said,
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Speaker 3: you know, all my life, I've been hearing about the
43:45
Speaker 3: United States and Cuba. When will the United States do it? Well? Well,
43:50
Speaker 3: look out, where's Greta Thumberg. She was out there banging
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Speaker 3: her gums about Cuba the other day, wanting oil into
43:56
Speaker 3: the region. I thought she hated Phil But there you go.
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Speaker 2: Look out, when you've got momentum, don't stop.
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Speaker 1: And that seems to be Trump's plan.
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Speaker 2: I gee, it's interesting, isn't it, Because everybody expected Trump
44:11
Speaker 2: would be an isolationist, which he never really was. He
44:14
Speaker 2: said he would be America first, and whatever's in America's interest,
44:18
Speaker 2: if that's dealing with Venezuela, dealing with Iran, or dealing
44:21
Speaker 2: with Cuba, he would do that.
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Speaker 4: But they're in the region too, right, see correct. It's
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Speaker 4: not as though he's going out of the other side
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Speaker 4: of the world to invade and take a piece of land.
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Speaker 4: He's talking about a place in the region with which
44:31
Speaker 4: they have had long term issues, you know, and he
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Speaker 4: talks about, oh, will I take it? Will I liberate it?
44:38
Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, this is all just part
44:39
Speaker 4: of Trump's tactic, right all right.
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Speaker 2: The front page of the towns Will bulletin tomorrow's got
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Speaker 2: a really nice story Gout Gout, who of course is
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Speaker 2: Australia's premier one hundred meter athlete. Gout Gout cheers on
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Speaker 2: North Queensland Star. The picture there is of Uezo Lbenda.
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Speaker 2: He's a young high school student in town who, at
45:01
Speaker 2: the same age as Gout Gout is actually running faster
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Speaker 2: than Goutgout ever ran.
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Speaker 1: And it's a great story.
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Speaker 2: His family arrived in Townsville via a refugee camp from
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Speaker 2: the Congo. His dad was a pastor and led a
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Speaker 2: little church in the refugee camp. Before they arrived in
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Speaker 2: Townsville with husband and wife and seven kids, barely any
45:24
Speaker 2: shoes for the kids, rocked up at a church in Townsville.
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Speaker 2: The church looked after them, provided shoes and clothing, provided
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Speaker 2: them with schooling, would pick them up every Sunday, take
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Speaker 2: them to church, and not knowing back in twenty thirteen
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Speaker 2: when they arrived in Townsvill that one of those kids
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Speaker 2: would end up possibly being one of the greatest athletes
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Speaker 2: our country has ever seen.
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Speaker 1: Potentially.
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Speaker 2: We'll wait and see what happens at the twenty thirty
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Speaker 2: two Olympics. But boy, he's on track, that kid. Good
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Speaker 2: luck to him. All right, we're going to go to
45:51
Speaker 2: a break when we come back. You would have heard
45:53
Speaker 2: of Charles the King, Charles the Environmentalist, But what about
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Speaker 2: Charles the DJ.
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Speaker 1: That's coming out up next. All right, welcome back to
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Speaker 1: the program.
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Speaker 2: If you're looking for a pizza, there are certain pizza
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Speaker 2: places that are.
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Speaker 1: Better to go to than others. Curleb Well, I.
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Speaker 4: Mean they're fighting about them in Melbourne would seem in Brunswick.
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Speaker 4: Andrea Coroli, who recently opened up a new pizza shop
46:21
Speaker 4: on Friday night, had to deal with a major fight
46:24
Speaker 4: in his shop in which he was beaten up. His
46:26
Speaker 4: friend was beaten up, he got a black eye. His
46:29
Speaker 4: mate is in ICU with head injuries. He says this
46:33
Speaker 4: has all been caused by a rival pizza shop down
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Speaker 4: the road.
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Speaker 11: Two Brunswick pizza parlors at war. Fist flew during the
46:44
Speaker 11: wild brawl inside the Sydney Road restaurant. One man uses
46:48
Speaker 11: a crowbar to defend himself, but is soon overwhelmed. The
46:52
Speaker 11: heated rivalry came.
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Speaker 12: To a head last night while customers were being served.
46:57
Speaker 12: An argument started outside, with and his friends coming to
47:01
Speaker 12: his aid with a fire extinguisher before three men stormed
47:05
Speaker 12: the store.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I know it might be concerning when someone
47:10
Speaker 4: else has come to town to set up a business
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Speaker 4: and you're worried about whether or not it's a threat,
47:13
Speaker 4: But for goodness sake, that's sir, that's a hell.
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Speaker 1: Of a who that it was about.
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Speaker 2: Someone just wanted pineapple on their picture, oh gosh.
47:23
Speaker 3: But the fact that people were there as well, that's
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Speaker 3: appall lag. I mean, god, the Google reviews are going
47:27
Speaker 3: to be coming thick and fast, aren't they. Look, King
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Speaker 3: Charles has tried his hand at DJing the old quick
47:34
Speaker 3: so I had to say that goinga and King Charles
47:38
Speaker 3: has given it a hand in Manchester with a twenty
47:40
Speaker 3: two year old aspiring DJ. I think it's great.
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Speaker 6: Have a look.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the King looks way too square to
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Speaker 3: be standing with I already tried to the music was
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Speaker 3: too loud. Poor old Charles probably hasn't been to it
48:11
Speaker 3: for a dance in a while like that, but look
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Speaker 3: good on him for trying. It was all for charity.
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Speaker 1: Is what song should he What song should he have done?
48:17
Speaker 1: Derneaka oh Cliff Richard?
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Speaker 3: Obviously no, I don't know what's a good's.
48:21
Speaker 1: I'm trying to give sing on air and show.
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Speaker 3: When we were to talk about Wired for Sound, Cliff Richard,
48:26
Speaker 3: he could have rocked out to that, a little remix
48:28
Speaker 3: of Wired for Sound.
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Speaker 4: This is not how we discussed it. In the break
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Speaker 4: she was going to sing You've been robbed.
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Speaker 2: She suddenly got shy, all right before we finish. We
48:37
Speaker 2: talked last night about the Queensland government naming an extension
48:41
Speaker 2: to their performing arts complex. They renamed the Glasshouse Theater
48:48
Speaker 2: and then two months later invited Queenslanders to nominate to
48:51
Speaker 2: what they would like it to be called, not noting
48:54
Speaker 2: that the decision had already been made. Well, today, the
48:57
Speaker 2: Attorney General came out and this is what she had
48:59
Speaker 2: to say about the situation. What we have here is
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Speaker 2: a brand new building. It's made of glass. You can't
49:05
Speaker 2: be any more transparent than that. So she claims they
49:08
Speaker 2: were being transparent because the building was made of glass.
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Speaker 1: Do you buy that argument.
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Speaker 3: That's pretty good. That's pretty good.
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Speaker 4: That's you know, it's not a bad joke I have
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Speaker 4: to say.
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Speaker 2: Indeed, all right, that's it from us stick around. Coming
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Speaker 2: up is the reader pennety show a good night