Latest / Murder Files Unsealed / The Murder ‘Blueprint’- Prosecutors Claim Rex Heuermann Used to Plot His Killings
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- 0:00Speaker 1: The Gilgo Beach murders.
- 0:02Speaker 2: It's a case that, well, it haunted Long Island for
- 0:06over a decade.
- 0:07Speaker 1: Yeah, four bodies.
- 0:08Speaker 2: They were discovered back in twenty ten, the Gilg four,
- 0:11and it really left investigators, i mean scrambling for answers.
- 0:14And now Rex Horrman, the alleged architect of it, all
- 0:18of these horrific crimes. He's finally in custody. But we're
- 0:22not just talking about, you know, the arrest itself.
- 0:25Speaker 1: This is the deep dive. We're going deeper. We're diving.
- 0:28Speaker 2: We're diving deep into the source material, into the DNA
- 0:32and these meticulously crafted plans that.
- 0:36Speaker 1: That might have finally brought this whole case to light.
- 0:38Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, this is not just another news cycle.
- 0:40This is this is really a glimpse into a really
- 0:44complex investigation that hinged on cutting edge forensic science. And
- 0:50well it seems a killer who documented his own dark
- 0:53beads exactly.
- 0:55Speaker 2: So let's go back to twenty ten. Okay, So the
- 0:57discovery of those four bodies found wrapped in burlap, I mean,
- 1:02it sent shockwaves through Long Island. It was it was
- 1:05like a scene straight out a nightmare.
- 1:07Speaker 1: And the fact that it.
- 1:08Speaker 2: Remained unsolved for so long, it just added to the terror,
- 1:13you know what I mean? Oh?
- 1:14Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And that's what makes the break of the
- 1:17case in January twenty twenty three all the more fascinating.
- 1:21Think about this, a discarded pizza crust, really something so ordinary? Wow,
- 1:27became a pivotal piece of evidence.
- 1:29Speaker 1: Okay, seriously, a pizza crust. How did they even make
- 1:32that connection?
- 1:33Speaker 3: So this is where the advancements in DNA technology really
- 1:36come into play. Okay, it wasn't just a matter of
- 1:38finding DNA on that crust. It was about the ability
- 1:41to analyze it, to match it to even the smallest
- 1:45sample of genetic material. And this is case. They found
- 1:47a match to a hair on one of the victim's remains,
- 1:51and that breakthrough that linked Hormon to one of the
- 1:54GILG for So.
- 1:55Speaker 2: This pizza crust DNA, it was like a tiny clue
- 1:58that unlocked a much a much larger puzzle.
- 2:01Speaker 3: Precisely, and it didn't stop there. Using similar DNA analysis techniques,
- 2:06investigators were able to link Hoyrman to two more victims,
- 2:10Jessica Taylor, who disappeared in two thousand and three, and
- 2:14Sandra Costilla, who went missing back in nineteen ninety three.
- 2:17Speaker 2: This is where it gets truly unsettling. We're not just
- 2:20talking about a potential serial killer anymore, right, We're talking
- 2:22about someone who may have been operating undetected for decades.
- 2:27Speaker 3: And you bring up a crucial point, undetected. When Hoyman
- 2:31was hit with those additional charges, bringing the total to
- 2:34six murders, he was reportedly surprised.
- 2:37Speaker 2: Surprised after all this time, and suggests that Hoyman might
- 2:40have believed that those earlier crimes, the ones of dating
- 2:44back years, were either undiscovered or that he had successfully
- 2:48concealed his connection to them. Right right, It begs the
- 2:52question what led to this perceived sense of security and
- 2:56what else might he have documented during that time.
- 2:58Speaker 3: Okay, so we've got the DNA it links Horreman to
- 3:01these crimes. But this is where this deep dive it
- 3:04takes an even darker turn.
- 3:05Speaker 2: Right, investigators uncover what they're calling a planning document, and
- 3:11they found this on a hard drive in Horreman's basement. Wow,
- 3:15and let me tell you this, This wasn't just like
- 3:18you know, some scribbled notes or something. This was this
- 3:20was something else.
- 3:21Speaker 3: You're you're right, this document. It's it's chilling. It's meticulously
- 3:25put together. Yeah, it was allegedly i mean created and
- 3:29modified by Horeman himself. Oh really over a number of years.
- 3:33Speaker 2: Wow.
- 3:34Speaker 3: The level of detail in this thing, the headings, the categories,
- 3:37I mean, it paints a really disturbing picture of how
- 3:42he allegedly approached these crimes.
- 3:44Speaker 1: So what are we talking about here?
- 3:46Speaker 2: What what kind of details are we finding in this
- 3:48this blueprint?
- 3:49Speaker 3: Well, I mean imagine imagine headings like supplies, a list
- 3:55of everything needed, i mean, from rope and tape to
- 3:58cleaning agents.
- 3:59Speaker 2: Wow.
- 3:59Speaker 3: Then there's there's problems. And get this DNA is right
- 4:02at the top of that list. Wow, which which suggests
- 4:05that he was acutely aware of its significance.
- 4:08Speaker 2: So he he knew DNA evidence could be a problem.
- 4:11Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, makes you wonder if he was, i mean,
- 4:13even all those years ago, if he was trying to
- 4:15stay you know, one step ahead of investigators.
- 4:18Speaker 1: It's it's certainly possible. And it gets it gets even
- 4:21more disturbing.
- 4:23Speaker 2: There are there are sections dedicated to body prep outlining
- 4:27you know, steps to dispose of the of the remains,
- 4:31and even post event, suggesting you know, actions to take
- 4:34after the alleged crimes. So this wasn't just about about
- 4:39the act itself. It was about control, right, about covering
- 4:42his tracks.
- 4:44Speaker 3: It's like he was he was trying to erase any trace,
- 4:48any link back to himself. And considering his profession as
- 4:53an architect, I mean, it makes you think about about
- 4:56how he approached this, this whole, you know, this whole.
- 5:00Speaker 2: Yeah, and you've you've hit on a crucial point there.
- 5:02As as an architect, Horman was trained to be to
- 5:05be detail oriented, to think systematically, to plan meticulous, I mean,
- 5:09and those traits are are terrifyingly evident in this document.
- 5:14Speaker 3: It's as if he applied those same principles of design
- 5:19and planning to to his alleged crimes.
- 5:22Speaker 2: Okay, so we're we're seeing this meticulous planning, This this
- 5:25almost obsessive.
- 5:26Speaker 1: You know, attention to detail.
- 5:29Speaker 2: But were there any specifics in the document that that
- 5:32stood out to investigators? I mean, anything that linked directly
- 5:35back to the victims?
- 5:36Speaker 3: Absolutely that the document allegedly included, you know, specific instructions
- 5:41on cleaning, dismemberment, even even how to avoid surveillance cameras. Wow,
- 5:47there was even a section on creating alibis really, which
- 5:51which really speaks to the level of premeditation involved.
- 5:54Speaker 2: Here, right, And and what about the mutilation found on
- 5:57Jessica Taylor's body? Could could that be explained and by
- 6:00by this blueprint?
- 6:02Speaker 3: It's it's possible. There's there's a section in the document
- 6:05about about removing identifying marks, which which could potentially explain
- 6:09that aspect of the case. It's it's a chilling reminder
- 6:12of how he allegedly aimed to control right, every, every
- 6:16aspect of his crimes, even even after the fact.
- 6:20Speaker 1: It's just it's unfathomable.
- 6:21Speaker 2: But but there's a section in this document, the Things
- 6:25to Remember section.
- 6:26Speaker 1: I can't get it out of my head?
- 6:27Speaker 2: Can you can you tell us a little a little
- 6:29bit more about that?
- 6:30Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, that that section, that section is particularly revealing. Yeah,
- 6:34because it because it shows an evolution in his in
- 6:37his alleged methods. He wasn't just you know, following a
- 6:41static plan. He was he was learning, adapting, refining his
- 6:45his approach with each each alleged crime. Gosh, it's it's
- 6:50as if he was treating this this like a gruesome apprenticeship, honing,
- 6:56honing his skills with every with every horrific act.
- 6:59Speaker 2: It's it's chilling, you know, to think that that he
- 7:02was potentially i mean, analyzing his actions, marking adjustments and
- 7:05all the while like living this this seemingly normal life exactly.
- 7:10Speaker 3: And that's you know, that's something we see. I mean
- 7:11we see that a lot in these types of cases,
- 7:13don't we. Right, This this stark contrast, I mean the
- 7:16darkness of their deeds, yeah, and the facade of normalcy
- 7:20that they that they present to the world.
- 7:22Speaker 2: It's like, you know, it's like the case of Dennis Raider,
- 7:24the BTK killer, right right, he kept those meticulous records,
- 7:28these these detailed accounts of his crimes, and and for years,
- 7:33I mean, he lived a double life, you know, family man,
- 7:36church goer, all while committing these I mean, these horrific acts.
- 7:41Speaker 3: It's a It is a chilling parallel, isn't it.
- 7:43Speaker 2: It is the.
- 7:44Speaker 3: Meticulous record keeping, the seemingly normal lives they led, right.
- 7:48But while it's it's natural to draw comparisons, you know,
- 7:52it's crucial to remember that each case, I mean, each
- 7:55case is unique.
- 7:56Speaker 1: Oh. Absolutely, we can't.
- 7:58Speaker 3: We can't fully know what drove Horrormen, just like you know,
- 8:02just like we can't fully comprehend the depths of raiders.
- 8:05Speaker 2: Darkness, right, right, No, it's it's not about equating the two.
- 8:07But but it does make you think about, you know,
- 8:10the psychology of a killer like Horrormen. Right, what is
- 8:13it about this this need for control, this meticulous planning
- 8:17that seems to go hand in hand with these I
- 8:19mean these horrific acts.
- 8:21Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's a question that continues to fascinate I think,
- 8:25you know, criminologists and psychologists, this desire, this desire to
- 8:31exert power and control over over others, to manipulate, you know,
- 8:36to manipulate situations to fit their own you know, their
- 8:39own twisted narratives. It's it's a common thread in many
- 8:44serial killer profiles. It's as if in their minds, this
- 8:47this control, this meticulous planning, it gives them this sense
- 8:52of order in a world that they see as chaotic
- 8:55and unpredictable.
- 8:56Speaker 2: And in Hohuerman's case, right, I mean, with his background
- 8:58as an architect, you almost see that reflected, right, and
- 9:01is in his alledged crimes, This meticulous planning, this desire
- 9:05to control every detail.
- 9:07Speaker 1: It's it's like he.
- 9:08Speaker 2: Was approaching murder as if it were just another construction project.
- 9:12Speaker 3: It's a chilling thought, Yeah, it is. It is the
- 9:15idea that he might have you know, he might have
- 9:17compartmentalized these acts, applied, applied the same skills and processes
- 9:22he used in his professional life to these these horrific endeavors.
- 9:27Speaker 1: It's it's a lot to process.
- 9:28Speaker 2: And as we've as we've learned, i mean, the investigation
- 9:31is still ongoing, right, it is. Yeah, is there is
- 9:34there any indication that there might be you know, more
- 9:36victims out there?
- 9:38Speaker 3: It's it's a question that weighs heavily on everyone's minds.
- 9:41And given the the span of time we're talking about here, right,
- 9:45the decades over which these alleged crimes took place, it's
- 9:50it's a possibility that investigators that investigators have to consider.
- 9:54Speaker 2: It's a it's a stark reminder of the human cost
- 9:58of these crimes. You know, the victims, their families, entire communities,
- 10:02i mean, left to grapple with.
- 10:04Speaker 1: With the aftermath.
- 10:05Speaker 3: And as as this case continues to unfold, right, as investigators,
- 10:09you know, delve deeper into Horrman's past, right, we're left
- 10:12with with more questions than answers. Really, right, what what
- 10:15else might they uncover? What other secrets might be hidden,
- 10:18you know, within the digital traces he left behind?
- 10:21Speaker 2: And and what does this, this meticulously crafted blueprint, right,
- 10:25what does it ultimately reveal about Rex Horman? Does it
- 10:30I mean, does it make him more terrifying knowing you know,
- 10:33the level of thought he he allogically put into these crimes?
- 10:36Speaker 1: Or does it I don't know.
- 10:37Speaker 2: Does it offer us, like this glimpse into a mind
- 10:39so desperate for control that he that he sought to
- 10:42impose order on the most the most chaotic act of all, right,
- 10:45taking a human life.
- 10:47Speaker 3: These are questions that that will likely linger long after,
- 10:50you know, long after this deep dive is over, right,
- 10:52questions that force us to confront I think you know,
- 10:55the darkest aspects of human nature. Yeah, and the unsettling
- 10:59truth that sometimes that sometimes the most meticulous plans are
- 11:04crafted with the most the most sinister intentions.
- 11:07Speaker 2: It's it's a chilling thought to end on, but but
- 11:10one that I think, you know, underscores the importance of
- 11:13digging deeper, looking, looking beyond the surface to really understand
- 11:17the complexities of of these cases. Right, And and as always, well,
- 11:21we'll be here, ready to to dive back into the
- 11:24source material as as the story continues to unfold.