Latest / Corie Sheppard Podcast / Episode 199 | Swansong
Transcript
- 0:20Speaker 2: Welcome to episode 199.
- 0:23Speaker 2: 199 of the Corey Shepard Podcast.
- 0:26Speaker 2: You know, since episode zero I've been planning this out.
- 0:31Speaker 2: All the weeks I miss, all the time off I take, I've been planning it out.
- 0:34Speaker 2: Little did you know that I was planning to ensure that episode 200 lands smack dab in the middle of Calypso History Month.
- 0:41Speaker 2: You don't find it fitting that Calypso History Month is the month we hit our 200 episodes.
- 0:46Speaker 2: Well, let me not talk too fast.
- 0:47Speaker 2: Let me deal with 199 first.
- 0:48Speaker 2: Now, how's it going?
- 0:49Speaker 2: How's everybody been?
- 0:50Speaker 2: How was Holy Week?
- 0:50Speaker 2: Holy Week was good, everybody having a good time, productive.
- 0:53Speaker 2: We in 1010.
- 0:54Speaker 2: Holy Week on Charlotte Street and support Holy Week.
- 1:06Speaker 2: They song is 10 10.
- 1:06Speaker 2: This is lucky times, you know.
- 1:07Speaker 2: When it's 10, 10, the chinese population what do you call it like?
- 1:08Speaker 2: If you say afro trinidadians can it's like chino trinidad.
- 1:09Speaker 2: You can't say chinese right, trinidadians of chinese descent supposed to be having a time around 10, 10 and we're supposed to join in that right and make sure that we, we in the source.
- 1:18Speaker 2: But holy going.
- 1:19Speaker 2: I want to tell all it before I jump into the issues of the day.
- 1:21Speaker 2: Right before I jump into the issues of this day, right Before I jump into the issues of this week.
- 1:24Speaker 2: Yeah, I tell you, we move and you know big, big changes in life and I realize, with big changes, your routine is going to change.
- 1:31Speaker 2: It's a little new, all right.
- 1:32Speaker 2: New life is all the time.
- 1:33Speaker 2: You know Life is seasons and so on.
- 1:35Speaker 2: Right, you know, I learn a lot from the therapist.
- 1:37Speaker 2: Right, it's a little new, all right.
- 1:38Speaker 2: And just tell you know life is about seasons and its changes.
- 1:43Speaker 2: I don't realize that in this season and in these changes we've been facing and trying to find new routines.
- 1:50Speaker 2: The household, the household led by me, right, because in the famous words of the imam Yasir Abubakar, the late great, I run my house.
- 2:00Speaker 2: I don't run around my house, right, but I run my house into the ground.
- 2:03Speaker 2: I run my house into theung because I've been getting very, very pudgy in the center.
- 2:07Speaker 2: I eat late in the night.
- 2:08Speaker 2: I like a biscuit, I eat all kinds of biscuits, sweet biscuits, late in the night, when I see the scale there I say no boy, things have to change.
- 2:16Speaker 2: So look at the household.
- 2:17Speaker 2: We're eating cleaner, we're losing the little weight and things you know what I mean mean trying to get back in a gear.
- 2:22Speaker 2: We're trying to get back into wedding dress and wedding suit kind of shape you know.
- 2:26Speaker 2: I mean everybody, everybody, all three of you trying to get back there.
- 2:30Speaker 2: Uh, if I could join my fitness journey, I got, and I know, I know, I know, as we join the fitness journey and we work on it together in this podcast, I have a lot of very influential listeners and one percenters and so on, and I would also like to just ask a wrong right, if, if by chance, anybody have the link for ozempic, well, listen to me now, because between my, between palestasie trainer and channel, they're trying to kill me Pain.
- 3:03Speaker 3: It's pain.
- 3:05Speaker 3: Lord, put a hand With me, wife and this deep pit man, I ain't a jam.
- 3:19Speaker 3: Oh Lord, put a hand With me, wife and this deep pit man, I ain't a jam.
- 3:25Speaker 3: You woman't a job, ain't a job, ain't a job.
- 3:27Speaker 3: You woman have no time for all wrong love.
- 3:29Speaker 3: Every day she finds herself on her.
- 3:31Speaker 3: I might not have seen what she was doing.
- 3:34Speaker 3: And it's practice.
- 3:35Speaker 3: I'm practicing.
- 3:36Speaker 3: I didn't mind she taking exercise.
- 3:38Speaker 3: She could have do it otherwise.
- 3:40Speaker 3: I ain't mind she living condition, but not this funny position With that bend up, touch your toe, so put on.
- 3:49Speaker 3: I don't know that this home my wife had to go.
- 3:52Speaker 3: I didn't know.
- 4:24Speaker 3: No, no, no.
- 4:25Speaker 3: I didn't know that this homey wife have to go.
- 4:29Speaker 3: I didn't know.
- 4:31Speaker 3: No, no, no.
- 4:32Speaker 3: I didn't know that this homey wife have to go.
- 4:35Speaker 3: I didn't know.
- 4:35Speaker 3: No, no, no.
- 4:36Speaker 3: She asked me boy, you are looking.
- 4:38Speaker 3: The sleeping man I am giving him.
- 4:41Speaker 3: Oh, come the boy, I have to be wet.
- 4:42Speaker 3: The sleeping man, well, he make me sweat.
- 4:45Speaker 3: I didn't mind taking exercise.
- 4:47Speaker 3: Watch yourself how you keep it big.
- 4:48Speaker 3: Oh, I know she ain't big.
- 5:38Speaker 3: I know she wants to dance it again.
- 5:41Speaker 3: You got it big, thank you.
- 5:43Speaker 3: It's been a long, long night on the underground.
- 5:45Speaker 3: I don't like it.
- 5:46Speaker 3: Watch yourself how you keep it.
- 6:28Speaker 2: If you don't know All Wrong, then get to know him, right?
- 6:30Speaker 2: If you don't know All Wrong, all Wrong, there's people to know him.
- 6:34Speaker 2: Listen, I don't have time and this is a short episode, but it's a certain thing, this call for other things.
- 6:40Speaker 2: I'm sorry, bear with me and listen, particularly because the opening topic I see in front of me here is man dressing up and playing police and kidnapping and murdering businessmen.
- 6:53Speaker 2: I just need to put myself in a mood before I get into them kind of topics.
- 6:56Speaker 2: Nobody better to put you in a mood than the great All Wrong there.
- 7:00Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
- 7:01Speaker 2: Ring, ring the phone.
- 7:02Speaker 2: Ring and pick up the receiver.
- 7:26Speaker 3: Hello yes, ma'am, I'm calling.
- 7:28Speaker 3: A woman calling to talk to the all-rounder.
- 7:32Speaker 3: Hello yes, ma'am, I'm calling.
- 7:35Speaker 3: Take some juice with you, Maybe a few bottles with you.
- 7:38Speaker 3: Tell your nation Jimmy Swaggart is an innocent man.
- 7:43Speaker 2: He never touched me, can't call on, he only watched me, can't call on, he only watched me, can't call on Making the Lord please forgive her All her work done and he knew not spoon and groan.
- 7:51Speaker 2: But he touched me, can't call on.
- 7:53Speaker 2: And when I asked him why?
- 8:11Speaker 3: Jimmy started to cry, cry, cry, cry.
- 8:16Speaker 3: Everybody used to admire that pastor.
- 8:19Speaker 3: Oh yes, oh yes, so passionate.
- 8:42Speaker 2: The charismatic way he preached on the altar oh, yes, color begging the lord, please forgive me, hey.
- 8:51Speaker 2: So here, what here?
- 8:52Speaker 2: What?
- 8:52Speaker 2: Here, what here, what?
- 8:53Speaker 2: Let me get into this one time, right, because it is very worrying.
- 8:55Speaker 2: I have plenty things on the culture and to talk about and I will end with sports, right, but I, I it is very, very worrying for me, very, very worrying for me, when I see articles like these, and it'll be remiss of me not to start with these things because we we went through a week or two where we see some of the most heinous and and and evil versions of domestic violence and domestic situations.
- 9:24Speaker 2: Right, I don't want to talk about them in too much depth.
- 9:26Speaker 2: If you're following the news, you know about them, right, but husbands getting themselves together and dealing with things in a way that I think men need help in Trinidad and Tobago, right, we feel and we bleed for the families, the mothers and the children who are the victims of these heinous crimes.
- 9:44Speaker 2: But men need help.
- 9:46Speaker 2: You know, I the last one I was reading there it is something, something not right.
- 9:51Speaker 2: You know, if, if he wasn't following his story as a following one where a young, beautiful woman, young handsome men going through this thing here wondering what is what is going on.
- 10:01Speaker 2: But the last one there where a woman get murdered in front of her children and when the police reach, the holy man now, because the children managed to escape and tell her neighbor and call the police.
- 10:12Speaker 2: And when the police reach, he sit down the cutlass right next to he and the police telling the police.
- 10:18Speaker 2: Well, I know, I know why I killed she, I know, and it's like this, this.
- 10:22Speaker 2: We need some interventions, the interfaith services and things.
- 10:28Speaker 2: The police.
- 10:28Speaker 2: I feel for the police.
- 10:30Speaker 2: As much as I come and I talk about police and the first story I see in front of my head is to deal with police.
- 10:34Speaker 2: It is a very hard job, rough, rough thing to be a policeman Because I'm in a fortunate situation, first and foremost.
- 10:44Speaker 2: Thankfully I'm not dealing with that.
- 10:46Speaker 2: I never grew up in a fortunate situation, first and foremost, where thankfully I not I not dealing with that.
- 10:47Speaker 2: I never grew up in a household that deal with that.
- 10:49Speaker 2: But but today when I come to record, I could watch stories like that and write it down and then decide, like I not in the mood to talk about them things and I don't want to talk about it.
- 10:58Speaker 2: So I in a fortunate position to deal with that.
- 11:00Speaker 2: You must keep in mind that the police care do that right.
- 11:02Speaker 2: When the police get a call, they're going through the same emotions and the same feeling that we feel and the same thing where all of us who's listening to this podcast.
- 11:10Speaker 2: We had a sort of a gentleman's agreement to not come and talk about the, the murder rate where women concern and the heinous crimes in the country.
- 11:18Speaker 2: We had a gentleman's agreement must be since a hundred episodes ago we say, boy, we go keep it light, we go follow the culture, we go do the news, we go learn a little thing, we go laugh together and enjoy life together.
- 11:28Speaker 2: Right, but it's get hard to do when you see things like these over the last few weeks and, uh, men need help, men need help.
- 11:36Speaker 2: We back to that in trinidad and tobago again.
- 11:39Speaker 2: I mean we probably never leave it.
- 11:40Speaker 2: Where's his situations like those, but this one in particular bothering me?
- 11:46Speaker 2: This one bothering me, right, the headline of daily express two cops charged with kidnapping and murdering businessmen.
- 11:53Speaker 2: Before I get into this, right, I see a video going around the other day with a situation where somebody was I can't remember if it's murder or kidnapping or anything and even talking about these things.
- 12:03Speaker 2: You know, you say these things so casually, you know, even when I ain't saying it, you say anything about murder or kidnapping like it's a real person with a real family who's dealing with these things.
- 12:13Speaker 2: You know.
- 12:13Speaker 2: But you see where two men come out and mark police car with lights and that is who committing crime.
- 12:23Speaker 2: And the responses that the police was the police was just giving them a drop.
- 12:28Speaker 2: So when, when you see it, you're wondering well, if the police so involved in crime that they're dropping off criminal in different places, but you say no, no, no, no, no, that is just some random people.
- 12:38Speaker 2: That it was.
- 12:38Speaker 2: They was given a drop and they happened to go and commit a crime.
- 12:41Speaker 2: So the the listen, I go into the police impersonation thing, right, because I'm worrying.
- 12:49Speaker 2: But again from the newsday police helpful cop give gunman drop in separia.
- 12:54Speaker 2: Police have responded to the viral video on social media in which two men were seen getting out of a marked police vehicle nearby in separia before crossing the road with what appeared to be guns and heading into kora Road, separia.
- 13:05Speaker 2: A police statement on August 8 said an immediate and comprehensive investigation has been launched.
- 13:10Speaker 2: The preliminary investigation revealed the Separia CID got information about two armed men on High Street Separia on June 27.
- 13:18Speaker 2: Two men, 18 and 27, were arrested and taken to Separia CID for inquiries.
- 13:24Speaker 2: Police said the investigations revealed the two were dropped off earlier by a Mark Police vehicle attached to the criminal records office in Separia.
- 13:30Speaker 2: The two men confirmed this Immediately.
- 13:33Speaker 2: Upon confirmation of this development, a further investigation was conducted involving the officer who transported the two suspects.
- 13:46Speaker 2: The officer provided a detailed report of the incident.
- 13:50Speaker 2: Investigations have revealed that the officer was not involved in any collusion or any criminal activity and his actions were indeed in good faith, assisting what appeared to be two stranded individuals.
- 14:00Speaker 2: So the police officer basically say listen, I, I get two men, I drop I living in tongue, right me living in separia.
- 14:08Speaker 2: So I don't know how things is running separia, but I don't know.
- 14:11Speaker 2: I born and grown in st james, I don't know police to be like samaritans.
- 14:15Speaker 2: That's just awful.
- 14:16Speaker 2: People are drop always stranded on a little drop people somewhere.
- 14:19Speaker 2: But if the men say they conduct the investigation and that is what they come up with, that is what they come up with.
- 14:24Speaker 2: What I could tell you is, when you look at the video, it could be scary for anybody to see something like that, where the people who you think going to protect and serve you serving themselves and the people who ought to harm you fast forward to today, right, two cops charged with kidnapping and murdering businessmen.
- 14:43Speaker 2: Two police officers have made their appearances in court being charged for the murder of central businessman Sachil Kunjbihari, or something very close to Kunjbihari.
- 14:53Speaker 2: Apologies, the officers acting CPL Ashraf Mohammed, 45, of Chinroads Kunupia, and Jason Dan Michael, 34, of Charlieville, appeared virtually before Master Margaret Sukraj Goswami on Friday, charged with the capital offense you could get charged with murder and appear virtually Virtually from the jail or virtually from home.
- 15:16Speaker 2: They are also accused of misbehaving in public office when they, along with another person, allegedly kidnapped Kunjbi Haria, a 32-year-old used car salesman, and demanded a ransom for his release.
- 15:26Speaker 2: The murder was alleged to have taken place sometime between September 24th and October 4th.
- 15:32Speaker 2: Kunjbi Haria's body was found in the London Villa area on October 3rd after his kidnappers made and received a $500,000 ransom demand Upon their appearance.
- 15:42Speaker 2: The officers, who were represented by attorneys Shiva Boodoo and Roshni Balkaran, were not called upon to plead, as the charges were laid indictably.
- 15:49Speaker 2: If it laid indictably, the virtual is from jail.
- 15:52Speaker 2: They were charged by acting PSBB role, questioning the master.
- 15:57Speaker 2: Once the outstanding statements were obtained, within the next week or two, the file will be forwarded to the office of the DPP.
- 16:03Speaker 2: Within the next week or two, the file will be forwarded to the office of the dpp, stated prior to the matter being adjourned.
- 16:07Speaker 2: Budu said he wished to raise two issues he was hoping to get clarity on.
- 16:08Speaker 2: So lawyer talk right, and why is this happening?
- 16:12Speaker 2: Court moral of the story is this the.
- 16:15Speaker 2: The story came out about this kidnapping and you're seeing this.
- 16:18Speaker 2: You know the.
- 16:18Speaker 2: The.
- 16:19Speaker 2: It seems to be that being another phase of kidnapping.
- 16:24Speaker 2: Somehow kidnapping in the country like it's come and go, like it's come in spurts.
- 16:31Speaker 2: Maybe I should just give credit to the police for any time it rise up, the police deal with it.
- 16:35Speaker 2: Maybe I should do that.
- 16:36Speaker 2: But when you hear police getting charged with this kind of thing, it's very, very worrying Because I remember the earliest I know about kidnapping was uh, I want to say, is it?
- 16:46Speaker 2: sabga there was somebody in one of the syrian family name popular syrian family names, or lebanese or syrian, I suppose uh, who was um, who was kidnapped many, many years ago, and that after that you see several kidnappings going on.
- 17:02Speaker 2: And then we all remember the the case with vindra nipol when that was happening, if you remember vindra, but you must remember, around that time there were several kidnappings and and it was the same thing, like we were going through a phase where kidnapping was the ending.
- 17:16Speaker 2: We seem to be going through another state like that, where a lot of people you're finding in the, the news every week or every couple weeks you're hearing about people being kidnapped.
- 17:29Speaker 2: Kidnap is one of the more worrying types of crimes, because now you're wondering I suppose he's a used car salesman so you could find out about or assume that he have money.
- 17:40Speaker 2: But even in some of the reports we read over the last few weeks, it seems as though people asking for specific amounts that they know they could get paid In this case the boy, the man, 32 years old still end up dead.
- 17:53Speaker 2: But God bless him and prayers and condolences to his family.
- 17:57Speaker 2: But kidnapping is a kind of complicated type of crime.
- 18:03Speaker 2: You know, it's not somebody who's snatching and grabs something or they thief tiffin car.
- 18:07Speaker 2: You know that's a complicated thing to get done, because if you're kidnapping for ransom you might want to be pretty sure before you take out that move, like how much money the person have and how much, not just how much they work like, because how much your work could be determined by the car you're driving and the house you have and the different assets or investments you have.
- 18:25Speaker 2: What you're trying to find out is how much cash the person or the family have access to, which begs the question like, okay, the banks who came out the other day and say, well, hey, all people not involved in this kind of thing, but where people finding out what kind of cash people have access to in the bank?
- 18:39Speaker 2: Or where people find out what kind of cash people have access to in their houses, the, the.
- 18:44Speaker 2: If I had a running theme or a true line in this podcast.
- 18:48Speaker 2: Every time I talk about society or development or economics, I always talk about the fact that we need more business people, we need more entrepreneurs, we need more innovation.
- 18:59Speaker 2: Oil and gas price high.
- 19:01Speaker 2: We are none.
- 19:02Speaker 2: We are none until about 2027 from what they say, guy and I laughing at hard times until 2027.
- 19:08Speaker 2: You need to find more and more people who are willing to risk capital.
- 19:13Speaker 2: Go up and put it up, and whether it's a used car business, when I say simple business, right, used car business is not developing Facebook or developing Apple.
- 19:23Speaker 2: Used car business is probably not going to change the world, but what it will do is change communities Because this youth 32, think of what you was doing at 32.
- 19:32Speaker 2: Or what you planned to be doing at 32.
- 19:35Speaker 2: 32 is really young 32 is really young to be running a business and you know, dealing with Japan or Korea or whoever, sending coffee or anything and get cars.
- 19:44Speaker 2: There's a young age to do that.
- 19:46Speaker 2: These things we should applaud.
- 19:49Speaker 2: We should be happy to see young people involved in business.
- 19:54Speaker 2: Now I will say that there are a few things that go along with you too.
- 19:59Speaker 2: Right, because, like I tell you the first piece of money I get, it was very, very hard for me not to go by Anton's and spend.
- 20:06Speaker 2: All Salute to Anton, as a matter of fact, let me scratch that Right now.
- 20:12Speaker 2: It is very difficult for me not to take my money and go by Anton's and get something shiny.
- 20:17Speaker 2: And I don't know if it's just how we grew up.
- 20:18Speaker 2: I just thought I find like I should be something, should be shiny.
- 20:21Speaker 2: Don't be surprised if you show up one day here and you have to put on shades to watch your screen, because I want a little something shiny and I want that shirt to open out to where I could hang my thing shiny.
- 20:31Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
- 20:31Speaker 2: But the picture that they have of the victim here he has some little Zestin chain and some little Zestin ring and them kind of thing, right.
- 20:41Speaker 2: I've been accused many times on this podcast of being naive and talking about young people in a way, like everybody was telling me in the beginning, when I was celebrating Marcos, they was like Corey Marcos is clearly a scammer, right, it's like boy, why the man couldn't do his digital marketing thing and make money.
- 20:57Speaker 2: All right, I was wrong about that.
- 20:59Speaker 2: So you never know what somebody involved in or where their background is, point.
- 21:05Speaker 2: You never know what somebody involved in or where their background is.
- 21:06Speaker 2: Point I'm making is this if we have a society that have plenty 32 year old businessmen which mean they start business from, since before and again, we're gonna start to see a different society.
- 21:14Speaker 2: You know, government not gonna save this society.
- 21:16Speaker 2: We are to save it, we, as the individuals, when we create opportunities in our communities for more and more people to get jobs and not just get the getting of the job right.
- 21:26Speaker 2: Let me talk about that a little bit.
- 21:27Speaker 2: When, when you, when you like, there's a master's program and it have an entrepreneurship as a course, or what you used to call innovation and entrepreneurship or something like that was name of the course, it talks about employment.
- 21:41Speaker 2: Right, employment is an important part of entrepreneurship.
- 21:44Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and that is changing now with automation.
- 21:46Speaker 2: But employment is not just about you hire somebody and now that person could make 10,000 a month, or he making whatever it is.
- 21:53Speaker 2: It's not just that.
- 21:55Speaker 2: The money that that person make a month will be invested in his family and reinvested in the community.
- 22:01Speaker 2: Because he need a plumber, he need a mason.
- 22:03Speaker 2: The money is being spent right in the community because he need a plumber in their mason.
- 22:05Speaker 2: He need the money to be spent right in the community.
- 22:07Speaker 2: Even even so, many money will leave the community and go to courts and super farm and so on, right, but for large part it will.
- 22:15Speaker 2: It will impact taxi drivers, anybody.
- 22:18Speaker 2: In other words, there's a knock-on effect to everybody that you employ.
- 22:22Speaker 2: But in economics it's all about taking them externalities right, which is not the obvious things that you employ.
- 22:26Speaker 2: But in economics it's all about a thing named externalities right, which is not the obvious things that you could see is things like call it side effects, right.
- 22:31Speaker 2: One of the things about entrepreneurship and employment is this I I remember being in st james and st james is a place I value for the entrepreneurial spirit of people in st james and remember my experience is growing up in St James.
- 22:44Speaker 2: So your experience growing up where you're growing up is probably the same, but St James is a place where people had businesses.
- 22:51Speaker 2: Businesses was a common thing.
- 22:54Speaker 2: It was a common thing.
- 22:55Speaker 2: You know Larry fixing TV and Barbara and them they sell electronics.
- 23:00Speaker 2: Owen start a plumbing place.
- 23:01Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
- 23:02Speaker 2: Boss have pet shop ali her pet shop the whole main road.
- 23:11Speaker 2: Dennis and them have a bar.
- 23:11Speaker 2: You know it's in james, our place used to see a lot of entrepreneurship business men learn a skill and they make it into some even andy and copper and men who just the street side mechanic is a former business them teach somebody it.
- 23:21Speaker 2: So one of the externalities that we don't pay attention to sometimes, or that we should pay attention to, is that, beyond just giving somebody a job and they get paid every month and thing, what we are really doing is like teaching people how to fish, rather than you get them a fish.
- 23:36Speaker 2: You read that, you read that somewhere before.
- 23:38Speaker 2: When you teach people to fish long after you dead and gone and you close your eye, that person might be able to to find an income for themselves, possibly by remaining employed, but also by taking a chance on starting their own business and helping other people to learn to fish too.
- 23:55Speaker 2: It is one of the things that entrepreneurship, uh, it's one of the ways that entrepreneurship benefits our society.
- 24:02Speaker 2: Another side effect, one of the externality is the, the pride that somebody might take when they learn to fix a car, and they try something, and it work and and and they do all.
- 24:12Speaker 2: These is the kind of things that we need to shift the minds of the youths from crime.
- 24:16Speaker 2: It's important.
- 24:18Speaker 2: It's important really.
- 24:19Speaker 2: Budget the other day, I think ministry of national security was second or third on the list of the highest budget that we have.
- 24:25Speaker 2: Just just think of it like this right, taxpayers, dollars, 25 percent.
- 24:30Speaker 2: How much money out of your salary is good to tax?
- 24:32Speaker 2: 25 or 30 percent or whatever it is?
- 24:33Speaker 2: And and then, if you're running a business, another 25 percent if you make any profit.
- 24:37Speaker 2: And it's a lot of money that we put aside to, we put aside collectively to run a society right.
- 24:46Speaker 2: Think of it home by you For you to build a house now you would be foolish not to put burglar proofing right.
- 24:54Speaker 2: You know all your money, you know.
- 24:55Speaker 2: So all your fancy burglar proofing and nice, nice work by um, what do people name it QPSL Fancy big steel door, you know what I mean.
- 25:04Speaker 2: Or you know, like PVC and everything UV rated, but you're going to burglar proof your place Most of us.
- 25:11Speaker 2: On top of burglar proofing the place, you're going to get some dog I mean not my kind of dog, right Dog to protect the place.
- 25:18Speaker 2: You might put some spikes around your wall so that people don't jump in you, around your walls, so that people don't jump in.
- 25:23Speaker 2: You might get camera system to make sure your wife ain't bringing them.
- 25:25Speaker 2: I mean the picture of teeth and so on.
- 25:26Speaker 2: You might do.
- 25:27Speaker 2: You might do these things alarm.
- 25:29Speaker 2: You might pay and get a rapid response on people to come over.
- 25:32Speaker 2: You think of this, right, if you were living in somewhere safe where you didn't have to do all them things, all that money we now call it at going.
- 25:41Speaker 2: They might still have a little dog, right, like dogs.
- 25:43Speaker 2: But all the other things that you would not have had to pay for feel pressured to burglar proof your house, which is a cost to alarm and pay somebody every month for what do you call the thing now Patrol?
- 25:54Speaker 2: Or you would not have paid the amount of money you're paying now to go in a gated community and pay X amount of money on top of that so that you have a security in front by you to open gate and close gate and you would not have to pay all that money.
- 26:06Speaker 2: More of your money could go toward whatever else you're interested in your children, education, your travel.
- 26:12Speaker 2: More of that could have gone towards that.
- 26:13Speaker 2: There's a micro situation, individuals, right, think of the macro situation.
- 26:18Speaker 2: Now, if you're living in a safe society, more of our money in the budget could go towards things like health care preventative health care too, right, not the reactive part, because we we health care properly reactive.
- 26:31Speaker 2: All we health care thing is going to hospital and this and that and mri might reactive like hell.
- 26:36Speaker 2: Right, more of our money could go towards social programs, helping people who care more to education, because I read something this week where the uh, one of the recipients of the order, trinidad and Tobago, was calling for us to move further towards digitization and automation and so on.
- 26:54Speaker 2: That is an important call.
- 26:55Speaker 2: I like what I see in Fatima so far with Zachary and then with all the boards, this Google Classroom, the homework coming to them on their phone.
- 27:04Speaker 2: They have an email they're sending out and that's still way behind.
- 27:07Speaker 2: Where, what, what you would really call an automated or a society that up-to-date with technology or education system that up-to-date with technology, we might be able to take that national security budget and and spend more of it on things that could benefit us and have, you know, intrinsic reward, where people could feel good about themselves and get careers and grow.
- 27:28Speaker 2: But we, we in this constant thing where, like the, the budget and the plan, when you talk about the planning and and I always talk about the purpose of leadership to be inspiring you, where the leader, whether it's the country or household like me, or your business or whatever you're leading One of your key jobs is to inspire you.
- 27:52Speaker 2: Inspire, you're working through others, right, you're supporting others, and working through others, I feel, is what leadership is.
- 27:58Speaker 2: So, if it is, our role is to inspire.
- 28:01Speaker 2: One of the things we should be looking at at all times is how do we get youths to value their lives, value their community, feel good about their spaces, talk with pride about where they come from and the things that they do and the things they achieve.
- 28:13Speaker 2: And, again, one of the ways to do this is through entrepreneurship.
- 28:17Speaker 2: So, when I see a month pass and I had to spend 15, 20 minutes in one episode talking about extorting business people and doubles men had to go and live somewhere else.
- 28:28Speaker 2: And then in another episode I had to talk 15-20 minutes about the police who's part of the national security budget In other words, it's part of my 25% that could be used for something else more uplifting or more fulfilling or more long-term in nature.
- 28:43Speaker 2: You know long-term rewards and long-term goals.
- 28:46Speaker 2: We're going to be using that for that.
- 28:47Speaker 2: We're using that to pay police who taking their 10, 15, whatever they make, and deciding that with that money that they make under the state resources like police car and so on, they're using it to execute crimes the things that they dare to prevent.
- 29:03Speaker 2: They're using it to to to to execute crimes the things that they dare to prevent they participated in.
- 29:10Speaker 2: I find it to be very worrying.
- 29:11Speaker 2: I find it to be very disturbing and I feel as though go talk about politicians the next time.
- 29:18Speaker 2: Right, because I feel the same way about them.
- 29:20Speaker 2: But I feel as if holding people to a higher standard should also mean that the repercussions or the consequences of what you do should be greater than what the average man does.
- 29:34Speaker 2: In other words, if the average man found committing a crime and the punishment is X.
- 29:40Speaker 2: If a police is found committing a crime, the punishment should be x plus one and it must be known up front.
- 29:47Speaker 2: It should be known.
- 29:48Speaker 2: We don't like the jail thing, you know, but whatever that punishment is, it should be x plus one.
- 29:52Speaker 2: It can't be that the temptation is there for the police to to join up with the people who we.
- 29:59Speaker 2: We trying to be protected against these types of things, you know.
- 30:03Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question, right, let me ask you a question.
- 30:06Speaker 2: When you see a roadblock or you see police or police coming behind you in traffic and the siren on, I just want to ask a general question and I know the answer to the question for myself, but I want to understand from people to see if I paranoia or I'm mad.
- 30:22Speaker 2: Or when you're late in the night you look out your window and you see police blue lights flashing somewhere, I want to ask you something Do you feel safer Within every?
- 30:41Speaker 4: system.
- 30:42Speaker 4: There are rules and laws.
- 30:54Speaker 3: And those who enforce them obviously cause.
- 30:56Speaker 3: Love in the hierarchy is non-significant.
- 31:01Speaker 3: So we find it necessary and highly important to gather our civil rights and surround this world with a free will that night to a full control, if it is with here to trust and guardians, be the protectors.
- 31:19Speaker 3: Question for the bad.
- 31:21Speaker 3: What a bad is that?
- 31:23Speaker 3: The armies, navies and air forces, the KGBs and the petty forces, cias and Scotland Yards?
- 31:31Speaker 3: What a God is God?
- 31:33Speaker 3: The chiefs of security Must be in a boundary.
- 31:37Speaker 3: This question is the hardest of hearts.
- 31:40Speaker 3: What a God is God?
- 31:43Speaker 3: This is Caribbean Vibes.
- 32:01Speaker 3: What a shocking factor to read in the news About one commander who could light the fuse, push the red button on a computer that could cause a chain reaction and damage the future.
- 32:18Speaker 3: Using our treasuries, we have made them strong, creating authorities as we go along.
- 32:25Speaker 3: What Knowing power develops?
- 32:29Speaker 3: And absolute for what corrupts?
- 32:31Speaker 3: Question for the lads who are the guards?
- 32:34Speaker 3: The royalties and the governments?
- 32:38Speaker 3: The men in houses of valiments, the caster of the cards?
- 32:42Speaker 3: Who are the guards?
- 32:43Speaker 3: The guards?
- 32:44Speaker 3: Question for the fanatics Advocating politics In the face of failing standards who are the guards?
- 32:53Speaker 3: These guards?
- 32:54Speaker 3: This is Great Lakes.
- 33:05Speaker 3: Guardians of the cities, guardians of the air, guardians over land and seas, here and everywhere, just like the steady beat of a metronome.
- 33:24Speaker 3: We have become quite obsessed with the militant syndrome.
- 33:28Speaker 3: To attain dependencies.
- 33:31Speaker 3: We have contributed, catching off ascendancies, reaching a little.
- 33:37Speaker 3: If it is this whole charade Defense upon one country, question for the lads who are the guards in guard?
- 33:47Speaker 3: Administrators of state defense, the many heads of intelligence, psp and Ashgala hearts, who are the guards in guard?
- 33:56Speaker 3: Shall it be the guerrillas, the religious ministers or the professors from Harvard?
- 34:03Speaker 3: Who are the guards in guard?
- 34:07Speaker 2: The man said he professors from Harvard, like if it's Harvard's cricket club.
- 34:15Speaker 2: You know, I like it a lot.
- 34:16Speaker 2: I like it a lot, but listen, it has certain things you must do.
- 34:22Speaker 2: Right, it's Calypso History Month.
- 34:23Speaker 2: Don't ever forget why it is we're here.
- 34:24Speaker 2: Right, it's Calypso History Month.
- 34:25Speaker 2: Don't ever forget why it is we're here.
- 34:26Speaker 2: Right, it's still Calypso History Month.
- 34:27Speaker 2: I mean, it's always Calypso History Month and if you're playing King Austin, you have to play King Austin.
- 34:32Speaker 2: Right Today, when I look around in the world, what do I see?
- 34:58Speaker 3: I see footprints that man have left on the sand While walking through times.
- 35:04Speaker 3: I see fruits of our ambitions, segments of our imaginations, and I ask myself when will it end?
- 35:14Speaker 3: When will it end universally?
- 35:24Speaker 3: This land is not bountiful as it was simply because, in its quest for success, nothing stands in man's way.
- 35:30Speaker 3: All rivers run dry, soon the birds will fly, the mountains will be no longer high, and when I really think of it, I just wonder why, oh why.
- 35:44Speaker 3: I see charity deplored, equal rights totally ignored, wisdom and ingenuity Working in accord, simply to afford Such inventions as to More nuclear warfare and environmental warfare.
- 36:19Speaker 3: And I wonder now, when do we go from here?
- 36:26Speaker 3: Prophets everywhere gaze upon the horizon and declare that judgment will come, as the savage hands of unscrupulous men file.
- 36:37Speaker 3: Everything past by.
- 36:38Speaker 3: Time is running out as we eat and drink, species that the brain calls the next stint, and I think no one can deny that the price of progress is high, really high.
- 36:53Speaker 3: I see consciousness as bait, as today we live recklessly, money make egos inflate and thereby create a turbulent state.
- 37:20Speaker 3: I see a struggle between the sexes, new hang-ups and old complexes.
- 37:27Speaker 3: Now the question is right in context what shall be next, I've already seen this world have come divided between race, color, creed and class, and some of the things this scripture predicts should fully come to pass.
- 37:47Speaker 3: Thank you, how to be one of the greatest Calypsos ever written right.
- 38:21Speaker 2: If you're listening to anything for Calypso History Month, you're bound to hear that about 25 times, right?
- 38:26Speaker 2: So who are the gods?
- 38:27Speaker 2: I'll leave it only with that question, right?
- 38:29Speaker 2: I see the boss say he done Before I read this.
- 38:35Speaker 2: Right, the headline says PNM leadership up for grabs at Rowley Hintz retirement.
- 38:40Speaker 2: I want to tell only this, right, I've had a lot to say about the Honorable keith rowley and so on.
- 38:45Speaker 2: You know I mean rollers over the years.
- 38:47Speaker 2: He's not.
- 38:47Speaker 2: He's not my favorite person.
- 38:49Speaker 2: If I had to make a ranking of the prime ministers of the country over the time, where would he land?
- 38:56Speaker 2: Where would he put rollers in any ranking of prime ministers?
- 38:59Speaker 2: We, not too much of prime ministers, no, we had chambers.
- 39:02Speaker 2: Uh, the boss, eric williams, at least for everybody else, or the general consensus at the time was that he was the boss.
- 39:08Speaker 2: So is eric williams, chambers, manning Pande, rollers and Kamloops Six.
- 39:20Speaker 2: Where are you putting Rowley?
- 39:22Speaker 2: Give me a number now.
- 39:23Speaker 2: Tell me the number in the comments.
- 39:24Speaker 2: Where Rowley could land Is six prime ministers.
- 39:26Speaker 2: Yet I don't know that he would.
- 39:29Speaker 2: I don't know if he's in my top five.
- 39:32Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
- 39:32Speaker 2: I'm not sure if he's in my top five prime ministers of all time.
- 39:35Speaker 2: But I want to say this If Rowley indeed retire before this next election, if he does not go up for the election, he's ranking up to my top three If he retire while in office or retire and hand over to somebody.
- 39:50Speaker 2: But it had to be a smooth handover.
- 39:52Speaker 2: It can't be no election battle where he bad-talking people and he's got a bell-backed teacup.
- 39:56Speaker 2: It had to be smooth.
- 39:57Speaker 2: Where he bad talking people and he's a bellback teacup.
- 39:59Speaker 2: It had to be smooth where he say I hereby appoint so and so as my successor and I ask kindly, not like how they put kamala, I ask kindly that all the vote for him, he have my full support.
- 40:08Speaker 2: And then he go on his campaign trail and talk before that person when he put the steward young right, when he puts young last, and then he put he go andani, talking like what Obama's doing for Kamala.
- 40:19Speaker 2: Now you know what I mean.
- 40:20Speaker 2: Where you continue to.
- 40:22Speaker 2: Let him be the head of the thing, let him make the decisions.
- 40:25Speaker 2: No puppet, no pull strings Rollers moving from outside of my top five prime ministers ever into my top three prime ministers of all time if he retires.
- 40:35Speaker 2: Let me read now, let me hear what you have to say.
- 40:37Speaker 2: On the eve of his 75th birthday, happy birthday Rollers.
- 40:44Speaker 2: Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley gave his strongest statement on whether it would be his last year of election or electoral politics in Parliament last week.
- 40:49Speaker 2: I'm now in my 10th year as prime minister.
- 40:52Speaker 2: I too may be a swan.
- 40:54Speaker 2: I don't know what I mean.
- 40:58Speaker 2: I I'm not my 10th year as prime minister.
- 41:00Speaker 2: I too may be a swan, I don't know what I mean.
- 41:02Speaker 2: As long as I could leave here, having done the best for my people, best for the people of trinidad and tobago, it doesn't matter to me when I leave, dr roly said, referring to a similar statement by unc mp rushton parry while he made his contribution.
- 41:16Speaker 2: Turning to bridget and he said george, in parliament a short while later, on friday, the pm said it was a pleasure working with you as a parliamentary, as a parliamentary speaker.
- 41:26Speaker 2: I don't know how much longer I'll have in this parliament, but I've done my duty and I kept the course.
- 41:32Speaker 2: I've run the race and I look forward, not for a pot of gold but for my family at the end of this rainbow.
- 41:38Speaker 2: This makes me feel emotional.
- 41:39Speaker 2: I don't know about you, me and the biggest fan of politicians, but I didn't expect to be this emotional.
- 41:45Speaker 2: My reason is, if he stepped down, he's in my top two prime ministers of all time.
- 41:49Speaker 2: The reason I'm saying this is that, as much as we lick politicians and public servants, sometimes the sacrifice it takes to go up this is this is rough on me, having a rough time in this the sacrifice it takes to put yourself up there and put yourself in public scrutiny for people to call in remember they call rollers the worst thing, as with any other prime minister, they call them the worst thing and say the worst things about a prime minister.
- 42:16Speaker 2: So to put yourself there in an easy decision, I can imagine doing it and most of us who listening to this not going up for them kind of job, whether we could do it or not, whether we had the capability for it, we were in private sector and make money, or even if it had bigger money there, we don't want it right.
- 42:32Speaker 2: So as much as I, like them, have a certain admiration for people who could put themselves up in the public space like that and have that kind of scrutiny behind every decision they make, and especially as Prime Minister, I have so much consequences to every decision they make and you have somebody who them who walk, what I'm getting paid for, that's the opposition, right?
- 42:51Speaker 2: Them who walk is to say you waste your time, you're doing nonsense and you're wasting the public purse and you're tiefing public person, you're tiffing and you're corrupt.
- 43:01Speaker 2: I don't work to come and say that every time so to put yourself up there in easy.
- 43:03Speaker 2: And I do feel better about what I was able to see from bazdo panday while he lived.
- 43:08Speaker 2: We never got to see it from patrick manning too much.
- 43:11Speaker 2: Right when patrick manning had retired it was nice to see he and panday playing some card.
- 43:16Speaker 2: Can you hear Austin say and the people who?
- 43:19Speaker 2: He say who wants to guard the guard?
- 43:21Speaker 2: Right, he was talking about Scotland Yard and the public.
- 43:23Speaker 2: You hear him say the casser of the cards, that's what's for divine right?
- 43:29Speaker 2: He said the casser of the cards, who's going to guard the casser of the cards?
- 43:34Speaker 2: That's a good question.
- 43:35Speaker 2: But even to see Pande and Manning in presentation college because they couldn't get into Fatima in presentation college playing some cards with one another and sharing a smile, it's good to see that where they live past the position and the job and the title, and they have a certain amount of People have some reverence for them and they only remember the good and the bad.
- 44:00Speaker 2: This come up from time to time but when you see them all and they enjoying themselves and they're laughing and so it's charismatic dudes in politics, you know, including rowley I I would love to be able to see him just chill, enjoy.
- 44:14Speaker 2: I I don't know, like, when you're in it is can't see, like what good they could possibly say what rollers do over the last 10, 15 years.
- 44:21Speaker 2: You know, I mean, when you're in it is be hard, but it's nice to see when they step aside.
- 44:26Speaker 2: I would love to live to see rollers and camels just laughing and talking and knocking on this man like a campari, they say, you know, I mean she like a vodka, knock, knock on glass and take a sip and laugh and talk and and I, I would love to see something like that and I I would hate to see people who have sacrificed so much for the country and people like growlers and camels and so on.
- 44:52Speaker 2: I would.
- 44:52Speaker 2: I would hate to see them lego the thing youths going and take it over and the youths now bad talking them and they're saying the worst about them after their contributions and then, as soon as they come out and they think that's it goodbye.
- 45:07Speaker 2: We never really see or hear from them again.
- 45:09Speaker 2: They're going to the upper room.
- 45:10Speaker 2: I wouldn't like to see something like that.
- 45:12Speaker 2: One of the things that I admire a lot about rollers is that this dude is very, very fit and strong.
- 45:19Speaker 2: This man, I need him every day and he didn't want to tell me.
- 45:24Speaker 2: You know what this woman gave me to eat?
- 45:25Speaker 2: No, I opened my bowl yesterday.
- 45:27Speaker 2: I'd say, well, this has to be oats.
- 45:30Speaker 2: When I'm actually gonna say, like it's what I say, it's quinoa or something.
- 45:33Speaker 2: When I see that it's buckwheat, it's everything she do has something to do with Obia.
- 45:40Speaker 2: It couldn't be no other kind of wheat, but it's her buckwheat.
- 45:43Speaker 2: So she bring her buck now to make wheat for me and she doesn't want me to leave her tall.
- 45:46Speaker 2: I trap, but I go in the gym and working out every day and trying to diet and try to look like Rowley I half his age.
- 45:55Speaker 2: I trying to look as good as he looking and be as fit and strong.
- 45:58Speaker 2: When this man snap he back straight and tall and strong.
- 46:01Speaker 2: I like that.
- 46:02Speaker 2: I want that for my old age.
- 46:04Speaker 2: I also want that for his old age and like reading this and putting myself in the position of either him or being in parliament or being Bridget An.
- 46:16Speaker 2: He said, george, to hear them words from a sitting prime minister.
- 46:20Speaker 2: You know, I I find it personally that it feel good.
- 46:24Speaker 2: I feel an emotion.
- 46:25Speaker 2: I feel a little bit sad to see him go, as much as I mean maybe I should rescind everything I say about him over the years, but it's sad.
- 46:33Speaker 2: It's sad to see him.
- 46:34Speaker 2: I glad to see him step aside, don't get me wrong, but moments like these is um, it's things that we must savor and cherish, in my humble opinion, right.
- 46:43Speaker 2: It's not the first time Dr Rowley has signaled that he was bowing out of the political arena.
- 46:46Speaker 2: In January of this year Dr Rowley had planted the seed of possibly retiring from politics.
- 46:51Speaker 2: During his contribution to the budget debate last Thursday he went further and told the House contribution to the budget debate last Thursday he went further and told the House I do not have a lot more time in here.
- 46:58Speaker 2: I don't want your talk like that, nair.
- 47:00Speaker 2: Don't talk like it's the end.
- 47:02Speaker 2: It might be the end of your political life, but I want to see Rollers live a long, healthy, happy life Long after.
- 47:10Speaker 2: Bring back out Sharon, bring back out your daughters and your sons.
- 47:13Speaker 2: Have a good time in this life.
- 47:14Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
- 47:17Speaker 2: Have a good time in this life.
- 47:19Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
- 47:20Speaker 2: Several names well, we know who's the names, who are there's thing right, the, the, the, the.
- 47:22Speaker 2: They don't want to say a rise has come before fall.
- 47:24Speaker 2: If stuart young is to be the next prime minister, a rise has also come after a fall.
- 47:30Speaker 2: You know what I mean a rise gone and fall hard.
- 47:33Speaker 2: Even dr roly's statements have spotlighted the potential.
- 47:37Speaker 2: According to the next government, there's no vac.
- 47:38Speaker 2: Spotlighted the potential government.
- 47:39Speaker 2: According to the government, there's no vacancy for the political leader or prime minister right now.
- 47:43Speaker 2: Dr Rowley has been hinting at an exit.
- 47:44Speaker 2: At the PNM's party conference held in July and August the spell August A-U-G-U-S he expressed confidence in the proper young people who he had brought into the electoral fold for the party.
- 47:57Speaker 2: I like it.
- 47:57Speaker 2: The party, I like it.
- 47:58Speaker 2: You know, I like it, I like it.
- 47:59Speaker 2: I think it's something that we must applaud and I I I struggling to put it into words because I feel is a is is a is a emotional kind of thing.
- 48:12Speaker 2: When somebody give their life, you ever, you ever watch.
- 48:15Speaker 2: Watch a footballer last game or a cricketer bowling their last over.
- 48:21Speaker 2: I was watching something this week where they have a Legends tournament.
- 48:24Speaker 2: So listen to my guy Cooper.
- 48:25Speaker 2: I see him take a hat-trick in the Legends tournament.
- 48:29Speaker 2: Bowl out kiss Chris Gayle.
- 48:30Speaker 2: That man bowled a hat-trick there, three balls and everybody looked very, very, very, very bad, but nice to see a man of a legends game.
- 48:42Speaker 2: I like the idea that of a legends T20 game because when you see cricketers going for their last inning and then they put up a guard or honor and they have to walk off and take most of them is being emotional.
- 48:50Speaker 2: You're looking at Bravo.
- 48:51Speaker 2: Keep in mind that we are the age now where we were at a time we would have seen our heroes retire, the Jordans and so on.
- 48:58Speaker 2: When they're going up for the last game, we see Lara retire, looking at people who might have been for some of us, looking at people who are older than us retire.
- 49:06Speaker 2: But now you realize we're in a zone now the 40s people are talking to.
- 49:10Speaker 2: We're in the zone now where we're seeing youth men who were young players when we were watching sports and they're coming up to the zone of retirement now, and it is usually a very sad thing to see them retire.
- 49:26Speaker 2: You hope that they have a career or fallback position for themselves or something that they could continue to do at a high level, like, for Bravo, it would be writing repetitive songs, you know what I mean.
- 49:33Speaker 2: He's very good at that, but look how emotional he was in the last cpl, though, and I feel like it could be something that we see and and let, let, let let rollers make you a swan song man.
- 49:45Speaker 2: You do your part.
- 49:46Speaker 2: They will say it was good, they will say it was bad.
- 49:48Speaker 2: The article went on to talk about several prime ministers who would have passed away soon after they um, they give up the political life and them kind of things.
- 50:00Speaker 2: I just hoping, for all us sake.
- 50:03Speaker 2: I hope we could see him and Kamla's I'm not saying that she plans to step aside, because there's nothing there saying that she's going to step aside or anything, but she should.
- 50:13Speaker 2: At this age and stage you're going to see about them, grandchildren, and enjoy life and things.
- 50:17Speaker 2: I find to be so old.
- 50:19Speaker 2: You're coming in and crying like this and that and making us an argument.
- 50:22Speaker 2: You're supposed to live the best peaceful life.
- 50:24Speaker 2: You're not really supposed to be meeting up for golf course and brunch and wherever the things are.
- 50:28Speaker 2: But a calypso history month, right, Salute.
- 50:31Speaker 2: Salute to Rowlers.
- 50:31Speaker 2: He's not in my top five prime ministers.
- 50:55Speaker 3: We ever had, but this move could put him up there with one of the top guys.
- 51:02Speaker 3: So have a little tune to play for rollers here.
- 51:08Speaker 3: Sometimes I just get angry when I see Somebody watch an X-Man achievement and declare that that was easy.
- 51:19Speaker 3: They don't see all the struggle and all the failure.
- 51:24Speaker 3: They quickly form allegiance to toast the winner.
- 51:30Speaker 3: But in this life there's a truth and every tree you see have a root and it's from way below the surface.
- 51:44Speaker 3: Thomas Edison, the light bulb inventor, this two thousand time.
- 51:52Speaker 3: He failed before, for the ball could light.
- 51:54Speaker 3: And when he reached age 67, a fire cost him two million.
- 52:02Speaker 3: That's when the studio broke to the ground One December night.
- 52:07Speaker 3: But he stood strong, faithful to his craft, and three weeks later he released his first photograph.
- 52:18Speaker 3: You see, he had the stuff Great men are made of.
- 52:25Speaker 3: It's the stuff you could miss Unless you look below the surface.
- 52:31Speaker 3: I said he had the stuff Great men are made of.
- 52:37Speaker 3: It's the stuff great men are made of.
- 52:41Speaker 3: It's the stuff you could miss unless you look below the surface.
- 53:09Speaker 3: Okay, shots, they say that pressure it does make diamonds out of rock, and it's the same with the human character when our dreams are down, struck in a jail, two men looking out through the same bars, one will fail, cause he see mud while the other see stars.
- 53:33Speaker 3: You see, while pressure humbles the, it strengthens who earnestly seek.
- 53:39Speaker 3: It's the barometer that measures the strong and the weak.
- 53:43Speaker 3: Because Martin Luther and South African Nelson Mandela the darkness in their jail cell couldn't dim their lights.
- 53:56Speaker 3: And civil rights atrocities energies for the more injustice, and from jail became president of South Africa.
- 54:22Speaker 3: You see, medicine had a stuff that great man I made up is the stuff you could miss Unless you look below the surface.
- 54:33Speaker 3: Potentializing had a stuff that great man I made up is the stuff that we've ever made of.
- 54:39Speaker 3: It's the stuff you could miss unless you look below the surface.
- 54:44Speaker 3: This is Marie Vibes.
- 55:13Speaker 3: Take anyone you wish and you'll see the road Is often littered with blocks and rubbish.
- 55:22Speaker 3: But as you clear one hurdle you will meet another, and as you lift one burden You'll hit an exculter.
- 55:33Speaker 3: You see, while your progress is slow, your determination must grow.
- 55:40Speaker 3: Just affirm and confess the success you already know, don't you know?
- 55:47Speaker 3: Elvis Presley Was fired by Jimmy Denny After just one show.
- 55:54Speaker 3: He was told Go back to go back and drive Chuck the great people music.
- 56:01Speaker 3: Imagine he was 46, but that's when he produced his greatest musical stock source the phone, by his choice.
- 57:03Speaker 3: Although his teacher told him you can sing and you have no voice the surface.
- 57:12Speaker 3: As a nation we will do well to train our young Not to adopt a luck and chance approach or a gaming disposition, for they will dream of easy money and sweet tomorrow From a get-rich-scheme with a one-in-one hundred-thousand ratio.
- 57:34Speaker 3: We need to teach foundations of truth, foundation trees that send down roots, not parasites.
- 57:44Speaker 3: That sucks, don't you know?
- 57:48Speaker 3: Was still candy walk so many miles barefoot school land in school, six dollars to take his locals with belly leadership was man.
- 58:23Speaker 3: No wonder they are prime minister and president.
- 58:25Speaker 3: You see, they are the stuff great men are made of.
- 58:29Speaker 3: It's the stuff you could miss unless you look below the surface.
- 58:34Speaker 3: I still don't understand the great man I'm made of Is the stuff you would miss Unless you look below the surface.
- 58:46Speaker 3: Is the stuff you would miss.
- 58:57Speaker 2: If you look below the surface, great, great, great.
- 59:01Speaker 2: Mystic Prowler, you know, look for him right, look for him.
- 59:05Speaker 2: I tell you that's one of the greatest calypsos ever written.
- 59:08Speaker 2: So how about we forget Robinson?
- 59:10Speaker 2: Did I call six prime ministers and forget Robinson?
- 59:13Speaker 2: So, really, man, top six, you know what I mean.
- 59:15Speaker 2: But again, salute to him, salute to him, salute to him, talk about greatness and listen the importance of that song, right.
- 59:17Speaker 2: And if you missed robinson, so probably my top six, you know I mean.
- 59:17Speaker 2: But again, salute him, salute him, salute him, talk about greatness and listen the importance of that song, right.
- 59:20Speaker 2: And if you miss the message behind the song, right, the idea, this stuff that great men are made of.
- 59:25Speaker 2: And we must keep this in mind as men, we, we look at great men and we make facebook comments as if what they're doing is simple, or what they're doing is easy, or we could do have done what they were doing, or we could have taken the pressure that they could have taken.
- 59:39Speaker 2: And it's not the case.
- 59:41Speaker 2: Let me do it, let me do it, let me do it, and I am guilty of it too.
- 59:44Speaker 2: I come here and talk about Fijal behind this and this one.
- 59:46Speaker 2: That is not no easy job and I don't know that if somebody give me that, I'm going to put myself position.
- 59:59Speaker 2: So the point behind this song, and that that prologue song is such a powerful song that any great man that you see have plenty more stories to tell you about failure than you have to tell about success it's one of the first things I had to talk to people about in entrepreneurship class.
- 1:00:10Speaker 2: I was just my father's example.
- 1:00:13Speaker 2: When we're talking about that in entrepreneurship, because when, when we, when he first started the business, he had given a book to read called fired up, and this is one of the few books that I see could somehow capture the emotional roller coaster that is a business, you know, I mean we're, I had to go and meet and I, you know I meet and I sit down and trying to convince people to work with me.
- 1:00:34Speaker 2: When me I'm sure that we could do the job, I still have a partner.
- 1:00:38Speaker 2: So I look at my guy Kern.
- 1:00:39Speaker 2: I say, kern, we're going to figure this out.
- 1:00:41Speaker 2: After you know, the first thing is we had to close the sale, we had to make, we had to figure out how we would get it done when we get the business.
- 1:00:46Speaker 2: But sometimes, sometimes you're telling them this and my foot shaking like hell below the table.
- 1:00:57Speaker 2: It's easy.
- 1:01:00Speaker 2: Greatness.
- 1:01:01Speaker 2: They have a reason.
- 1:01:02Speaker 2: We celebrate greatness right, and anybody who have greatness, uh, or greatness to offer.
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: Well, number one, they're doing it on behalf of others.
- 1:01:11Speaker 2: Greatness is never you know self.
- 1:01:12Speaker 2: It's not.
- 1:01:13Speaker 2: It's not doing for yourself and just making yourself wealthy and thing to be great.
- 1:01:16Speaker 2: You really had to help plenty people and it's not easy.
- 1:01:16Speaker 2: It's not doing for yourself and just making yourself wealthy and things To be great.
- 1:01:17Speaker 2: You really ought to help plenty of people and it's not easy.
- 1:01:19Speaker 2: It's not easy.
- 1:01:20Speaker 2: It's not easy.
- 1:01:20Speaker 2: It's a little domestic problem.
- 1:01:21Speaker 2: It's just domestic problem.
- 1:01:22Speaker 2: It could not be said better.
- 1:01:24Speaker 2: It's tough that great men made up to stick it through them kind of times.
- 1:01:28Speaker 2: So if Rollers stick it through them kind of times and really retire or step down while he's still winning and them kind of thing, I have way more respect.
- 1:01:39Speaker 2: He might move into my stop.
- 1:01:40Speaker 2: One prime minister of all time talk more greatness.
- 1:01:42Speaker 2: Talk more great men.
- 1:01:43Speaker 2: Marshall montano, to receive keys to the city of miami now, before I get into this right, this has happened to me.
- 1:01:53Speaker 2: Every time I have a foreign kind of I'd be upset when I see all the posts and all the things in foreign carnival.
- 1:01:57Speaker 2: Can you do a like Instagram blackout so say, don't show me nothing from Miami carnival or no foreign carnival.
- 1:02:03Speaker 2: It's not that I wanted to go or that I would have go if I could have go, but I just doesn't like to say it.
- 1:02:12Speaker 2: Maybe it's just a hater, you know what I mean.
- 1:02:14Speaker 2: Maybe it's just a hater, I don't like it.
- 1:02:16Speaker 2: So they say here Marshall Montano, get keys to the city of Lauder Hill.
- 1:02:20Speaker 2: Trinidad Soka powerhouse.
- 1:02:22Speaker 2: Marshall Montano on Friday night added another key to his set.
- 1:02:25Speaker 2: This time he was presented with a key to the city of Lauder Hill by Vice Mayor Lawrence Jabo Martin.
- 1:02:32Speaker 2: The token of appreciation and acknowledgement was given on behalf of Martin, other Miami commissioners and Mayor Kent Thurston for Marshall's contribution to community and culture.
- 1:02:42Speaker 2: In an exclusive interview with Caribbean Media Corporation on the sidelines of the presentation that, in an exclusive interview with CMC, on the sidelines of the presentation that happened during Miami Carnival 2024 Panorama Competition at Carnival Village, north Central Broad Park, martin explained why Montana was chosen.
- 1:03:05Speaker 2: I could have just skipped that whole sentence.
- 1:03:06Speaker 2: We always recognize talent, we recognize special people that give back to the community and in this case he's given so much His music.
- 1:03:14Speaker 2: It brings people together, it's a happy sound, it's a good sound, it's a party style and it embraces everything we talk about.
- 1:03:20Speaker 2: We talk Caribbean culture, he said.
- 1:03:23Speaker 2: Asked about the impact that the carnival has on the community financially, martin said I don't have specific numbers because remember they were out of commission for a couple years because of COVID.
- 1:03:33Speaker 2: So because remember they were out of commission for a couple years because of covid, so it's really only the second year back and they're saying bigger and better than it was last year and last year was phenomenal.
- 1:03:42Speaker 2: So we are still looking to see what happens.
- 1:03:43Speaker 2: However, he stressed that, beyond the monetary value, the unity and togetherness that the miami broad one carnival host committee is able to bring about annually is even more precious.
- 1:03:53Speaker 2: Anytime we can bring communities together.
- 1:03:56Speaker 2: That's what it's really about.
- 1:03:57Speaker 2: The economic impact takes care of itself.
- 1:03:59Speaker 2: These are not first world countries, right, these guys have money like dirt, they don't need the carnival money.
- 1:04:06Speaker 2: It's not a first world country.
- 1:04:07Speaker 2: The economic impact takes care of itself and, like I said, lord of the Hill does great, broad County does great and this carnival season just brings families together.
- 1:04:16Speaker 2: He's a loss, you know.
- 1:04:17Speaker 2: I mean he's trying to say to me, receiving the keys with a grateful heart.
- 1:04:21Speaker 2: Marshall really looked like the happiest man alive.
- 1:04:23Speaker 2: I'm very proud to receive this honor, playing a role for so long, as they say are too young to soaker to be enough family.
- 1:04:33Speaker 2: He said thank you very much to the city of lauderhill for this honor.
- 1:04:36Speaker 2: I would like to thank the entire committee, commissioners and heads.
- 1:04:40Speaker 2: Marshall told the audience, hundreds in the stands, that regardless of the island you're from, this is our culture.
- 1:04:45Speaker 2: The idea is one caribbean.
- 1:04:47Speaker 2: Let's be proud of our islands, let's be proud of what we display, uh in the world as total joy and happiness, or music, or food, or dance, and our people singing acapella the song.
- 1:04:58Speaker 2: The soca giant continued you see me is a man, love to play, love to jam.
- 1:05:07Speaker 2: Oh, you see me is a man, miami.
- 1:05:12Speaker 2: I so happy with this key in my hand and I don't have no tie.
- 1:05:16Speaker 2: So salute, salute, salute, something that we must celebrate.
- 1:05:20Speaker 2: As he prepares to go on the road for Carnival, sunday, october 13th, marshall urged everyone to remember fellow West Indians who may live in parts of Florida affected by Hurricane Milton.
- 1:05:28Speaker 2: Let's put our money where our mouths are.
- 1:05:30Speaker 2: Let's help those in need.
- 1:05:32Speaker 2: Please be safe this miami, this kind of this, please be saved.
- 1:05:36Speaker 2: This kind of miami.
- 1:05:37Speaker 2: I love you.
- 1:05:38Speaker 2: So it's time to celebrate.
- 1:05:39Speaker 2: Right, you must always.
- 1:05:40Speaker 2: We had, we had to celebrate whenever we achieve and we accomplish greatness.
- 1:05:44Speaker 2: Remember to say the stuff that great men are made of, right on marshall montano on this piece, where they like him.
- 1:05:51Speaker 2: We're going into the season soon, right, we're done.
- 1:05:53Speaker 2: In mid-October, carnival season going on.
- 1:05:57Speaker 2: Come fast, and soon we will be arguing about Marshall singing the same song every year and that ain't good enough for road march and he don't like to perform and he's overcharging, and we're going again to that season soon.
- 1:06:09Speaker 2: But we must never forget the stuff that great men are made of.
- 1:06:12Speaker 2: We must never forget the stuff that great men are made of.
- 1:06:14Speaker 2: We must never forget to pause and celebrate greatness.
- 1:06:17Speaker 2: When greatness happening right in front of the eye, right we can take a chance and celebrate it for all of you.
- 1:06:31Speaker 4: So as long as they call my name, then I will answer I'm a happy camper and love is my sponsor.
- 1:06:38Speaker 4: And as long as I'm out of life then I will dance up.
- 1:06:42Speaker 4: No time for no anger.
- 1:06:44Speaker 4: I'm smiling with my hands up.
- 1:06:46Speaker 4: What they calling me?
- 1:06:47Speaker 4: Mr Happy Puppy, mr Happy Puppy, mr Happy Puppy.
- 1:06:53Speaker 4: What they calling me, mr Happy Puppy, can't get to me.
- 1:07:00Speaker 4: Fret for what?
- 1:07:01Speaker 4: No, no, no.
- 1:07:02Speaker 4: Rebet for what no, no, no.
- 1:07:04Speaker 4: Upset for what no, no, no.
- 1:07:16Speaker 4: Nothing can't get to me Problems.
- 1:07:20Speaker 4: I don't have no problems.
- 1:07:21Speaker 4: Any issue that I face, I let the Almighty solve them.
- 1:07:25Speaker 4: Life too sweet, I can't complain.
- 1:07:27Speaker 4: The only constant is the change and we go touch the road again.
- 1:07:32Speaker 4: So as long as they call my name, then I will answer I'm a happy camper and love is my sponsor.
- 1:07:39Speaker 4: Oh, and as long as I'm out of life, then I will dance up.
- 1:07:43Speaker 4: But I feel no anger.
- 1:07:45Speaker 4: And smiling with me hands up.
- 1:07:47Speaker 4: Eh, what they calling me?
- 1:07:50Speaker 4: Mr Happy Puppy, mr Happy Puppy, mr Happy Puppy.
- 1:07:54Speaker 4: Yeah, what they calling me.
- 1:07:54Speaker 4: Eh, mr Happy Puppy, mr Happy Puppy, mr Happy Puppy.
- 1:07:55Speaker 4: Yeah, what you calling me, mr Happy Puppy, mr.
- 1:07:59Speaker 3: Happy Puppy.
- 1:08:01Speaker 2: Cause you ever happy.
- 1:08:02Speaker 2: And you know they say like Big Calypso history months and you're playing soccer Nice.
- 1:08:09Speaker 4: Yes, rampa dampa dampa da.
- 1:08:11Speaker 4: Yeah, rampa dampa dampa, nice.
- 1:08:14Speaker 4: Rampa dampa dampa da.
- 1:08:16Speaker 4: Yes, rampa dampa dum dum, oh Lord, around 1974, to a mother named Calypso, junior appeared to be so much more Over the years he began to grow but like his grandfather, pakalinda, and grandmommy Sweet Carrizo, the family trades of little boy Soka Coulda never hide me.
- 1:08:41Speaker 4: Just so.
- 1:08:41Speaker 4: He is the head of the fetting class, heart of the carnival.
- 1:08:47Speaker 4: The jumping legs in the mass, the waistline causing bacchanal.
- 1:08:53Speaker 4: A mother's child features cannot hide and this everybody know the Waste Line, nice, thank you.
- 1:09:49Speaker 4: While Mami dunks out in Skinner Park.
- 1:09:52Speaker 4: So kind on instinct and dirty duvet, say the.
- 1:09:56Speaker 4: Both of them love to party.
- 1:09:58Speaker 4: In almost the very same way, mami love to be up in the tent While she's on jamming on radio.
- 1:10:06Speaker 4: Mami prefer a sit-down event.
- 1:10:09Speaker 4: This unloved truck on the road.
- 1:10:12Speaker 4: Even though things about them might differ, it's one thing everybody know If you're looking deep down inside, soca is the soul of Calypso.
- 1:10:23Speaker 4: Let me hear you.
- 1:10:24Speaker 4: Ba-dum, ba-dum, ba-dum, yeah.
- 1:10:27Speaker 4: Dum, ba-dum, ba-dum, I tell a lie.
- 1:10:30Speaker 4: Dum, ba-dum, ba-dum, I tell no lie.
- 1:10:32Speaker 4: Da-ba-da-ba-dum-bum, yo.
- 1:10:34Speaker 4: So I tell a lie, I tell a lie.
- 1:10:35Speaker 4: So I grow up to be a big man, now almost 50 years old.
- 1:10:40Speaker 4: His grandchildren set out and plan to be famous like him round the world.
- 1:10:46Speaker 4: Looking back at all his years and the things that he made us do, the grands have no doubts and no fears.
- 1:10:56Speaker 4: They'll have the whole world doing it too.
- 1:10:57Speaker 4: Moving to the left, moving to the right, yes.
- 1:11:01Speaker 4: Balancing all night, feeling hot, hot, hot for spite, bingo, laying in sheer delight From dying we head with blood like Baptiste To jumping and waving flag to and fro.
- 1:11:13Speaker 4: Soca is a spiritual bacchanalist, just like Calypso.
- 1:11:20Speaker 4: Let me hear you.
- 1:11:21Speaker 4: Calypso is Soca, soca is Calypso.
- 1:11:25Speaker 4: Sister Chutney and brother Raga, cousin Tassa, come belly more.
- 1:11:31Speaker 4: Say you don't have to look no further.
- 1:11:43Speaker 4: I sure everybody don't know.
- 1:11:47Speaker 4: Thank you be aware.
- 1:11:48Speaker 4: Also, I too was born 1974.
- 1:11:54Speaker 4: They once called me a calypso singer because I couldn't write songs like sparrow.
- 1:12:00Speaker 4: Since then I write a lot I hate soga and now?
- 1:12:03Speaker 3: I write a hit calypso let me hear you calypso is
- 1:12:09Speaker 2: soga, soga is calypso, you know only Kalipso is Soka and Soka is Kalipso.
- 1:12:14Speaker 2: You know what I really like, as he calls Rumpa dum pa, dum pa da.
- 1:12:17Speaker 2: Rumpa dum pa dum boy, nice, thank you.
- 1:12:21Speaker 2: So look at Marshall Montana Kalipso is Soka.
- 1:12:25Speaker 2: Right, we could play anyone in Kalipso instrument, right, are you with me?
- 1:12:28Speaker 2: But?
- 1:12:31Speaker 2: But?
- 1:12:32Speaker 2: But rather say Kalypso music is in a weak spot.
- 1:12:40Speaker 2: That I mean when somebody like david rather talk, you have to listen, right?
- 1:12:41Speaker 2: So from the guardian ryan bechu, it said it is how stories are told because once upon a time levels of literacy we have today were not commonplace.
- 1:12:50Speaker 2: All right, what the hell is going on?
- 1:12:53Speaker 2: It is all.
- 1:12:54Speaker 2: Stories are told because once upon a time the level of literacy we have was not commonplace, so Calypso was the main way in which information was passed.
- 1:13:02Speaker 2: So we're trying to say this is a Heather McIntosh opening statement at an interview with Sunday Guardian about Tuko and Calypso history month, right, but Heather McIntosh basically said the people at him couldn't read long time, so they had to listen to Calypso for information.
- 1:13:15Speaker 2: It's a rough life.
- 1:13:16Speaker 2: Compose yourself, corey.
- 1:13:19Speaker 2: It is how stories were told because once upon a time the levels of literacy we have today were not commonplace.
- 1:13:25Speaker 2: So Calypso was the main way in which information was passed on from one side to another.
- 1:13:29Speaker 2: Heather McIntosh's opening statement in her interview with the Sunday Guardian epitomized the importance of the art form in Trinidad and Tobago.
- 1:13:37Speaker 2: In fact, tuco's tagline is by Calypso, our stories are told.
- 1:13:46Speaker 2: It was once called the poor man's newspaper.
- 1:13:48Speaker 2: This is a lot of blues, but Heather McIntosh was quick to add.
- 1:13:51Speaker 2: I think it's because of the proliferation of social media and other things that calypso doesn't have the same status in society as it used to have at once upon a time.
- 1:13:59Speaker 2: October is calypso history month, which gives us the opportunity to reflect on how far the art form has come, whilst also analyzing its penetration in society today.
- 1:14:08Speaker 2: The bella fonte dilemma.
- 1:14:10Speaker 2: Calypso can also be traced to the traditions of west africans in terms of music, structure and function.
- 1:14:16Speaker 2: According to tukwu, it traces its race to african sorry.
- 1:14:20Speaker 2: It traces its roots to african traditions of improvised songs of self-praise and scorn for others.
- 1:14:26Speaker 2: Praise yourself, scorn others, but brought here by enslaved peoples.
- 1:14:30Speaker 2: But from lord beginner to harry bella fonte, calypso's history can often be a topic of division.
- 1:14:37Speaker 2: Emerald Anthony Phillip, who goes by the sobriquet Brother Valentino just clap that because it's Brother Valentino right has research, written and sung on the history of Calypso music.
- 1:14:46Speaker 2: His song when Kaiso Went is a virtual encyclopedia of the history of the art form.
- 1:14:52Speaker 2: In it he sings about Calypso's rise, from its first recording in 1912 in New York City to Belafonte's style, to the influence of Calypso music.
- 1:15:00Speaker 2: That Calypso music had on famous singers such as Bob Dylan, lionel Richie, rosemary Clooney and Louis Farrakhan Farrakhan.
- 1:15:09Speaker 2: But Belafonte, who was a famous singer and who was once credited with taking calypso music internationally, has a complicated legacy in local circles.
- 1:15:19Speaker 2: Dr hollis liverpool, who is more uh popularly known as mike the chalk does, sang famously at the dimash grime 1993.
- 1:15:28Speaker 2: When you hear bella fonte and buster point dexter.
- 1:15:31Speaker 2: That is Calypso.
- 1:15:32Speaker 2: That is brandy mixed with water.
- 1:15:33Speaker 2: Sometimes we had a bottle of water in the brandy choccy.
- 1:15:36Speaker 2: Not only we could afford the brandy, we used to drink, he would win the Monarch that year with his song Misconception.
- 1:15:42Speaker 2: In an interview with the Sunday Guardian, david Rudder said of the Belafonte division Harry Belafonte had nothing to do with Calypso company.
- 1:15:51Speaker 2: He was doing some lyrics by Lord Melody and others in his own style.
- 1:15:54Speaker 2: People always say that Harry Belafonte stole Calypso.
- 1:15:57Speaker 2: But if Belafonte wasn't there the story of Calypso would not be what it is today.
- 1:16:03Speaker 2: I think he did a great job in terms of the audience he had to deal with.
- 1:16:06Speaker 2: He did it in his own way.
- 1:16:07Speaker 2: I don't understand why he opened his statement by saying Harry Belafonte had nothing to do with Calypso music but then he ended by saying he did a great job in terms of his audience.
- 1:16:17Speaker 2: I think Harry Belafonte was outright singing Calypso, a few of Lord Melody's songs as well, and I am pretty sure that if I play Harry Belafonte here it will get striked.
- 1:16:29Speaker 2: So we go avoid that.
- 1:16:30Speaker 2: But look up Harry Belafonte, lord Melody, and you'll hear a few of these songs.
- 1:16:40Speaker 2: Right, mama looka boo boo was one for rada.
- 1:16:41Speaker 2: Bella fonte's chapter in his story of calypso music cannot be denied.
- 1:16:42Speaker 2: It was the first genre of music to sell a million copies, but a valentino's classic where kaiso went as questions the state of the art form and its falls from grace.
- 1:16:50Speaker 2: When asked about the current state of calypso, rudder and Valentino had similar answers it's losing its essence, it's losing its taste.
- 1:16:57Speaker 2: That's what Valentino said.
- 1:16:58Speaker 2: Meanwhile, rudder said he's in a weak spot right now.
- 1:17:02Speaker 2: When Preston was causing the decline in the art form.
- 1:17:05Speaker 2: Valentino pointed to the modern instruments that are used, which he says, doesn't enhance the music.
- 1:17:11Speaker 2: He further pointed out the computerization of programming, as he called it, was, which was causing calypso to lose its essence.
- 1:17:17Speaker 2: However, brethren valentino has always seen the mash grass show as the achilles heel of the art form.
- 1:17:22Speaker 2: He has criticized the competition in both song and spoken word up to this day.
- 1:17:27Speaker 2: The mash grass is calypso's biggest enemy and biggest problem, because the calypsonians no longer focus on the art, they focus on the pay packet.
- 1:17:36Speaker 2: Before I go further, right, this is something, this, this there's a contentious statement and you hear it from several uh proponents of the art fans.
- 1:17:44Speaker 2: People talk about it, people in support of it, some people against it.
- 1:17:47Speaker 2: Right, what I will say is that one, if you set up the judge in a certain way for any type of competition, you're maybe inadvertently rewarding what could be seen as your wrong behaviors.
- 1:18:01Speaker 2: So if the lyrical content and topical that had been narrowed down by the judges to a certain amount of political commentary and those types of things where humorous Calypso lost its sting in the biggest show in Carnival, dimash Gras or Lil Peekong lost its sting, or singing about nation building, not so powerful, when you listen to Prowler's song, which was a Calypso monarch, I want to say 1999.
- 1:18:36Speaker 2: Uh, could be wrong, but I could tell me.
- 1:18:39Speaker 2: If I'm wrong, all right.
- 1:18:40Speaker 2: But uh, when you look at if they diminish the power or even songs just to take a little dance, you know that calypso starts to get narrowed down into singing about pnm and unc and so on.
- 1:18:53Speaker 2: And I could see where valentino would say that the problem is is the mash gra.
- 1:18:58Speaker 2: But maybe is the problem the problem might be in terms of how you structure the judging in the mash gra.
- 1:19:03Speaker 2: Maybe I'm starting to think, maybe the competition itself might be the biggest problem.
- 1:19:07Speaker 2: The biggest problem is when it narrowed down to one single part of the art form.
- 1:19:13Speaker 2: It's's a statement that has found favor with Macintosh.
- 1:19:15Speaker 2: She offered her opinion to Sunday Guardian saying I think many Calypsonians focus on the competition rather than on the music.
- 1:19:21Speaker 2: And there, for me, is where the challenge lies.
- 1:19:24Speaker 2: If you're going after the crown, then there are particular things you do or don't do to attain the crown, and I think that belies what Calypso is supposed to be.
- 1:19:33Speaker 2: It's supposed to be commentary, either social or political.
- 1:19:36Speaker 2: It's supposed to be storytelling.
- 1:19:37Speaker 2: That, to a large extent, is not happening because people are focusing on winning the crown.
- 1:19:41Speaker 2: What we are trying to do is get the formula down to win the monarch.
- 1:19:45Speaker 2: You guys, that's a statement you hear all the time about monarch and roadmatch.
- 1:19:49Speaker 2: Here people talk about what is the formula?
- 1:19:50Speaker 2: Meanwhile, rather added here people don't noisy for me, meanwhile, rather added if people don't find new ways to express themselves, then it will dissipate.
- 1:19:56Speaker 2: If you, if you listen to young calypsonians now in the arena, they are getting involved in calypso music too, and that's a good thing.
- 1:20:04Speaker 2: Calypso in his school curriculum.
- 1:20:06Speaker 2: With such concern about the state of calypso music being expressed by the bards, the common question of why calypso has not been incorporated in his school curriculum comes up again.
- 1:20:16Speaker 2: Valentino said it's something that they should have on the itinerary for the longest while, because Calypso is not entertainment, it's a form of education.
- 1:20:23Speaker 2: I would argue that it's both.
- 1:20:24Speaker 2: He went further to say they will have to put Calypso on the curriculum if they want Calypso to really become alive again and to be the force and voice it once was.
- 1:20:36Speaker 2: Somebody has to pick up the mantle.
- 1:20:37Speaker 2: Mcintosh said she was disappointed that Calypso has not been included in the school system.
- 1:20:42Speaker 2: There's more than enough room in the curriculum to allow for Calypso to be introduced.
- 1:20:48Speaker 2: If we look at the SCA exam, which is a big exam the students do at the end of primary school.
- 1:20:54Speaker 2: There's a comprehension element where poetry has to be judged, and I'm saying that we can use Kaiso instead of the poems that you take from some far off land that has no cultural relevance.
- 1:21:03Speaker 2: I agree with this a hundred percent.
- 1:21:06Speaker 2: I usually talk about it in secondary school, right, because Shakespeare not no better than Mystic Prowler.
- 1:21:16Speaker 2: To me, all these people who write these songs, they're not better than David.
- 1:21:21Speaker 2: Sorry, all these sort of poems.
- 1:21:23Speaker 2: I don't know none of these playwrights, none of them are better than David Rudd or Marshall or Valentino.
- 1:21:29Speaker 2: I don't find them any better than all around.
- 1:21:34Speaker 2: When you see the way a man put together a song, or when you listen to King Austin.
- 1:21:38Speaker 2: Say King Austin, say the casser of the cards.
- 1:21:42Speaker 2: If you could write a song, right, when you talk about who going to guard the guards, the police, the politicians, anytime, you could put in there the casser of the cards.
- 1:21:53Speaker 2: I want to let you feel like somebody who play a lot of cards.
- 1:21:55Speaker 2: You play WAPI, you play poker.
- 1:21:56Speaker 2: I need somebody to understand the pain that you feel when the castle is dishonest.
- 1:22:01Speaker 2: The castle is the man on the table.
- 1:22:03Speaker 2: Who's supposed to deal with cards and make sure that the game go right?
- 1:22:07Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
- 1:22:08Speaker 2: You're playing that game of WAPI.
- 1:22:09Speaker 2: The castle is supposed to take care of you.
- 1:22:10Speaker 2: Who the hell going to guard the castle?
- 1:22:12Speaker 2: If you can say that, you're a literary genius in my eyes.
- 1:22:17Speaker 2: So I agree with some of what's being said in the article here.
- 1:22:20Speaker 2: I always feel it to be a little bit of a.
- 1:22:24Speaker 2: It's hard to hear the best people in the art form and the most powerful people in the art form say bad things about the art form, but I feel like they earn the right for us to listen to whatever they say and wherever their opinion lies.
- 1:22:41Speaker 2: So when I hear Valentino say, boy, they do some of the computerized music a part of it, I feel like you know, the times have changed and it had to evolve on them types of things.
- 1:22:50Speaker 2: But I feel like we must also listen to them.
- 1:22:53Speaker 2: I do feel like we have a crop of calypso uh, so-called calypsonian and so many.
- 1:22:57Speaker 2: Look at voice, second star, all of them and the calypsonians karen, ashe, chucky, kurt allen, someone's a young fellow, you know me around a long time now, but some of the calypsonians we have any mixing now.
- 1:23:10Speaker 2: They're very, very, very connected to the valentinos of this world.
- 1:23:13Speaker 2: I saw it again when I went to explain a show.
- 1:23:13Speaker 2: In fact they're very, very, very connected to the Valentinos of this world.
- 1:23:15Speaker 2: I saw it again when I went to explain a show.
- 1:23:16Speaker 2: In fact, they're very, very connected.
- 1:23:18Speaker 2: It's not that they're disconnected at all from where they come from.
- 1:23:21Speaker 2: So I think if Valentino holding court, everybody going to listen, if David Rudder holding court, everybody going to listen, I think we have to pay attention to all the things that bother them about where the art form is going.
- 1:23:34Speaker 2: While we continue to evolve and we continue to innovate, we must always listen and hear where they're coming from.
- 1:23:42Speaker 2: So salute to them.
- 1:23:43Speaker 2: It's good to hear from them in our Calypso History Month in particular, and we're always here to explore what we could do to make this thing better, what we could do to make it relevant.
- 1:23:56Speaker 2: One of the things that's very, very important in this article is what Heather McIntosh said when she said with social media and so on, it is difficult, it is different.
- 1:24:05Speaker 2: You know what I was watching the other day.
- 1:24:07Speaker 2: They were asking Keenan Ivory Wayans if he would consider bringing back things like in living color, and I saw in interviews they asked dave chappelle, you know what about chappelle show?
- 1:24:19Speaker 2: You wouldn't do chappelle show and one of the things that they said was well, the skit format and and them taking current issues and and making joke outside used to work really really well before social media, because now, with social media, everybody have an opinion about something that they could voice while the thing happening, it's showing, even done.
- 1:24:40Speaker 2: Yet I don't like all the miami cannavale people in the miami cannavale and come home good.
- 1:24:43Speaker 2: Yet all the wi-fi so good over there, so good the lte is there all that 5g, how much do you have?
- 1:24:48Speaker 2: All the posting while all any kind of and going live in the cannavale island, them dick.
- 1:24:53Speaker 2: And it's difficult now for anybody who's supposed to capture a time or tell a story or by the time you come out with it, it's still.
- 1:25:03Speaker 2: My experience is the same, like I come in to talk about issues every tuesday and sometime when I see something it just beats so beat out in social media.
- 1:25:11Speaker 2: If mean I know new take or nothing different to say about it, I just scratch it off the list.
- 1:25:15Speaker 2: It's difficult to keep up with with social media, but the truth is that I've done it 199 times 199.
- 1:25:23Speaker 2: So if we want to show up every week, and we will do it, so while I feel like it's a valid statement, we must find what our space is.
- 1:25:33Speaker 2: The okay we can't read and write.
- 1:25:35Speaker 2: Okay now, so people can read and write, is there a different way of bringing it across to people?
- 1:25:40Speaker 2: And and and because people?
- 1:25:42Speaker 2: Holding on to the old calypso, you know, I I play some old calypso in this thing and his favorite something where everybody love, and then some sometime I play too much people I know, and somebody message me and say, hey, send me that song, sing that.
- 1:25:53Speaker 2: So it's not that the interest is not there, but I just feel as though, with social media being what it is, we have to adjust the length of Calypso songs, we have to adjust the way they deliver and if the judge is still judging people based on, he must have four verse and a chorus and a pre-chorus.
- 1:26:12Speaker 2: If we're still judging people based on that, we we probably probably rewarding the wrong behaviors.
- 1:26:18Speaker 2: Guitar solo.
- 1:26:19Speaker 2: Can you hear a distant?
- 1:26:22Speaker 2: Drum.
- 1:26:59Speaker 3: Bouncing on the laughter of a melody yeah, yeah.
- 1:27:05Speaker 3: And does the rhythm tell you, come, come, come, come?
- 1:27:08Speaker 3: Does your spirit do a dance to the symphony?
- 1:27:12Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:27:12Speaker 3: Does it tell you that your heart do a dance to this symphony?
- 1:27:14Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:27:14Speaker 3: Does it tell you that your heart is a fire?
- 1:27:18Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
- 1:27:20Speaker 4: And does it tell you that your pain is a liar?
- 1:27:23Speaker 4: Oh yeah, does it wash away all your unlovely.
- 1:27:28Speaker 4: Well, are you ready for a brand new discovery Calypso.
- 1:27:34Speaker 3: Calypso.
- 1:27:35Speaker 3: Well, are you ready for a brand new discovery?
- 1:27:37Speaker 3: Calypso, calypso, calypso music.
- 1:27:45Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, calypso, calypso, calypso music.
- 1:28:29Speaker 3: So it is a living vibration Rooted deep within my Caribbean.
- 1:28:32Speaker 3: Belly Lyrics to make a politician cringe my caribbean they could have never refuse it.
- 1:28:51Speaker 3: Calypso.
- 1:28:52Speaker 3: It make you shake like a shingle.
- 1:28:55Speaker 3: Now, calypso, why it is you shaking?
- 1:28:59Speaker 3: You don't know.
- 1:29:00Speaker 3: That's Calypso, calypso, calypso, calypso music.
- 1:29:09Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, calypso.
- 1:29:52Speaker 4: Calypso, calypso.
- 1:29:52Speaker 4: I'm like a honey.
- 1:29:53Speaker 4: I can still hear a lion roar through Greenwich Village While executor kills them dead at the ribbon do.
- 1:30:02Speaker 3: Lord, invade the conquerors world in but their hearts this time.
- 1:30:05Speaker 3: And Lord kitchen and make it all London feel so new Beginner and terror too.
- 1:30:25Speaker 4: Betray cold man fingers dancing on the bed, dancing on the bed, thank you.
- 1:30:29Speaker 4: Don't go Sparrow, don't go Calypso.
- 1:30:32Speaker 4: Calypso, calypso.
- 1:30:38Speaker 2: A-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di- to.
- 1:30:45Speaker 2: Valentino.
- 1:30:46Speaker 2: We need to be great, david.
- 1:30:47Speaker 2: Brother, only here you say Farrakhan.
- 1:31:00Speaker 2: So suppose I tell you, suppose I tell you Farrakhan is a Calypso.
- 1:31:04Speaker 2: You know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know.
- 1:31:09Speaker 2: So, history man, I will come and light all you.
- 1:31:13Speaker 2: They talk about Harry Belafonte and the relationship he had with Lord Melody and several of Melody's songs, little takes from Melody style and everything I feel was borrowed, used by Harry Belafonte, and I agree with brother.
- 1:31:26Speaker 2: I think it would be a great thing for the art form at the time.
- 1:31:29Speaker 2: Imagine Drake.
- 1:31:31Speaker 2: Well, don't imagine Drake now, because Drake do that with Popcorn and them in Jamaica and it don't look like he do much to uplift that.
- 1:31:37Speaker 2: So he look like he's just borrowing when he need it.
- 1:31:39Speaker 2: But if you are the biggest artist in the world, let me say Kendrick, imagine he take a day, not like us in Soka, and link up with Marshall.
- 1:31:47Speaker 2: It will do wonders for our genre of music.
- 1:31:50Speaker 2: So, salute to Harry Belafonte.
- 1:31:52Speaker 2: We ain't gonna attempt to play his music, but we gonna attempt to play a little.
- 1:31:56Speaker 2: Louis Farrakhan.
- 1:31:57Speaker 2: Did you know that Louis Farrakhan is a Calypsoanian?
- 1:32:00Speaker 2: Hold on.
- 1:32:04Speaker 2: You know what song it is.
- 1:32:08Speaker 2: The voice you hear in here is a young Louis Farrakhan.
- 1:32:35Speaker 6: Take my word for it.
- 1:32:35Speaker 6: Right, some of them were great Calypsonian.
- 1:32:36Speaker 6: Since this season was carnival, they got together in Bacchanal and they're singing Back to back belly to belly.
- 1:32:41Speaker 6: I don't hear a damn, I done dead already.
- 1:32:44Speaker 6: Back to back.
- 1:32:46Speaker 6: Belly to belly Was a jumbie jamboree.
- 1:32:49Speaker 6: I hear the chorus Back to back, belly to belly.
- 1:32:53Speaker 6: I don't hear a dance, I don't get a ready.
- 1:32:56Speaker 6: Back to back.
- 1:32:58Speaker 6: Belly to belly was a Jumbie jamboree.
- 1:33:00Speaker 6: One female Jumbie wouldn't behave.
- 1:33:14Speaker 6: See how she jumpin' on the grave, in one hand she holdin' a quarter rum, with the other hand she knockin' conga drum.
- 1:33:23Speaker 6: The lead singer start to make his rhyme While the other Jumbie rattlin' their bones in time.
- 1:33:29Speaker 6: One bystander had this to say it was a thrill to see the Jumbie break away.
- 1:33:34Speaker 6: And what they singing?
- 1:33:36Speaker 6: Back to back, belly to belly.
- 1:33:38Speaker 6: I don't care a damn, I done dead already.
- 1:33:41Speaker 6: Back to back.
- 1:33:42Speaker 6: Belly to belly was the Jumbie jamboree.
- 1:33:46Speaker 6: I hear the chorus back to back, belly to belly.
- 1:33:50Speaker 6: I don't care a damn, I done dead already.
- 1:33:52Speaker 6: Back to back.
- 1:33:54Speaker 6: Belly to belly was's a jumbie jamboree.
- 1:33:57Speaker 6: Left and right, things getting sweet Dilly.
- 1:34:11Speaker 6: Bystander mash the jumbie feet.
- 1:34:14Speaker 6: The jumbie raise his finger to one.
- 1:34:17Speaker 6: He say mister, take care, you mash me corn.
- 1:34:19Speaker 6: The funniest thing you could ever see Was a jumbie eating codfish and fungi.
- 1:34:25Speaker 6: I never see more more be a ginger bear than at the jumbie parade which took place last year.
- 1:34:31Speaker 6: And what they singing.
- 1:34:55Speaker 2: Back to back, belly to belly.
- 1:34:56Speaker 2: I don Louis Farrakhan, we can't play one and I want you to listen to the voice.
- 1:35:00Speaker 2: Good, go and listen to Louis Farrakhan talking now and then listen to the voice.
- 1:35:04Speaker 2: Good, this was a song originally done by the Roaring Lion.
- 1:35:07Speaker 2: Just like how Melody do Mama Looka Boo Boo and Harry Belafonte have a version, roaring Lion do a tune by the name of Ugly Woman.
- 1:35:39Speaker 5: And the Honorable Louis Farrakhan have a tune named Ugly Woman to a remake or a king's life never make a pretty woman your wife.
- 1:35:43Speaker 5: If you want to be happy living a king's life, never make a pretty woman your wife.
- 1:35:45Speaker 5: Now all you have to do is just what I say and then you will be jolly merry and gay.
- 1:35:51Speaker 5: Therefore, from a logical point of view, you better marry a woman uglier than you.
- 1:35:57Speaker 5: From a logical point of view, always marry a woman uglier than you.
- 1:36:02Speaker 5: A pretty woman make her husband look small and very often cause his downfall.
- 1:36:09Speaker 5: Soon, as she married there and then she started to do the things that will break your heart and when you think that she's belonging to you, she's calling somebody else to do.
- 1:36:20Speaker 5: Man.
- 1:36:21Speaker 5: From a logical point of view, you better marry a woman uglier than you.
- 1:36:26Speaker 5: From a logical point of view, always marry a woman uglier than you.
- 1:36:32Speaker 5: But if you make an ugly woman your wife, you can be sure you'll be happy in all your life.
- 1:36:38Speaker 5: She will never do things in a funny way To allow the neighbor of the thing to say she wouldn't disregard her husband at all by exhibiting herself to Peter and Paul.
- 1:36:49Speaker 5: Man.
- 1:36:50Speaker 5: From a logical point of view, you better marry a woman uglier than you.
- 1:36:53Speaker 5: From a logical point of view, you better marry a woman uglier than you.
- 1:36:55Speaker 5: From a logical point of view, always marry a woman uglier than you and now a little like nice, nice woman.
- 1:37:15Speaker 2: But it ain't too late to take Farrakhan advice.
- 1:37:17Speaker 2: We ain't come here to play one or two of you, farrakhan.
- 1:37:19Speaker 2: We come to play Farrakhan.
- 1:37:32Speaker 5: Now my sister has a boyfriend who's really swell, but what he does, I am bound to tell.
- 1:37:37Speaker 5: Yes, he's got a pair of hands he use with nylon grace.
- 1:37:41Speaker 5: He got them roving all about the place.
- 1:37:43Speaker 5: She had to tell him Don't touch my nylon, johnny, I don't like this carrying on.
- 1:37:50Speaker 5: Take your hand off my nylon boy.
- 1:37:53Speaker 5: You really got to stop this.
- 1:37:55Speaker 5: Carry on.
- 1:37:55Speaker 5: Take your hand off my nylon boy.
- 1:37:56Speaker 5: You really got to stop this carrying on.
- 1:38:02Speaker 5: Last night he made her go at her nylon dress.
- 1:38:05Speaker 5: That was the day she wanted to get.
- 1:38:07Speaker 5: He touched the heart of glove and a stocking too.
- 1:38:10Speaker 5: Then she found what he was trying to do and she told him don't touch my nylon, johnny.
- 1:38:17Speaker 5: I don't like this carrying on.
- 1:38:21Speaker 5: Take your hand off my nylon boy.
- 1:38:23Speaker 5: You really have to stop this carrying on.
- 1:38:32Speaker 5: While sitting in the cinema she felt a grip.
- 1:38:34Speaker 5: He made her grab at her nylon slip.
- 1:38:37Speaker 5: She got so mad she had to tell the young man flat Touch everything, but not me.
- 1:38:42Speaker 5: This and that.
- 1:38:43Speaker 5: And she bawled out Don't touch my nylon, johnny.
- 1:38:47Speaker 5: I'm tired of the way you carry none.
- 1:38:50Speaker 5: Take your hand off my nylon boy.
- 1:38:52Speaker 5: You really gotta stop this carrying on of the way you carry on.
- 1:38:55Speaker 5: Take your hand off my nylon boy.
- 1:38:56Speaker 5: You really got to stop this carrying on Now.
- 1:39:08Speaker 5: We had to show him how, because he went too far, he made a grab at a nylon bra.
- 1:39:15Speaker 5: Bra, he touch it and he feel it, and he wouldn't stop trying to make a resistance drop and don't touch my nylon john like this farrakhan.
- 1:39:24Speaker 2: Your record jumping farrakhan is youtube and all these guys are taking running nation and so on.
- 1:39:28Speaker 2: Fix it, fix it.
- 1:39:29Speaker 2: Little recordings on them on youtube.
- 1:39:30Speaker 2: But if you didn't know when you wrote the Daniel Loveless, now you know Great Louis Farrakhan.
- 1:39:36Speaker 2: So if you want to find Farrakhan music, go and look on YouTube for the charmer, subrecase the charmer and you will see the charmer as Louis Farrakhan.
- 1:39:47Speaker 2: A little bit of collaboration.
- 1:39:51Speaker 2: Hey, I'm leaving holiday.
- 1:39:52Speaker 2: I'm leaving holiday.
- 1:39:53Speaker 2: I'm leaving holiday in true, true form.
- 1:39:54Speaker 2: Long week, long week, plenty of things to do.
- 1:39:58Speaker 2: Let me line up something for a little play, I think for my episode 200, right, one of the things I've been wanting to do for some time.
- 1:40:08Speaker 2: Because when you're talking about Calypso, history, man right, or Calypso in general, one of the things that we must always remember is that when you compare the long, long laundry list of calypsonians kaiso, artists, soka man, rapsoman, wherever you want to count, when you count them in trinidad, tobago, have a list of heavy hitters that contribute to calypso and the art form and all of its forms that Marshall talked about.
- 1:40:39Speaker 2: Right, and one of these days we must recognize them.
- 1:40:42Speaker 2: So, who knows, Episode 200 could be a complete Tobagonian episode when you look at some of the greatest Calypsos.
- 1:40:49Speaker 2: You know I like to call things the greatest Calypso ever written, the greatest Calypso ever here.
- 1:40:53Speaker 2: Well, next week could be one of them weeks.
- 1:40:56Speaker 2: So in the meantime we'll have a safe week.
- 1:40:58Speaker 2: The sun hot, bad.
- 1:40:59Speaker 2: Try and stay out the sun.
- 1:41:00Speaker 2: Get your uv protection, whatever kind of how is quality now?
- 1:41:03Speaker 2: Sunblock and so on.
- 1:41:04Speaker 2: If you're in miami carnival, keep miami carnival in miami.
- 1:41:08Speaker 2: What happens to what happens in vegas?
- 1:41:09Speaker 2: Stay in vegas.
- 1:41:10Speaker 2: Well, they can't just keep all the things to myself.
- 1:41:12Speaker 2: I come in and frustrate people, for as we end Calypso History Month and we celebrate in episode 200 on Tobago Carnival in October we might as well take in a full Tobago episode, but for now I want to leave you with this.
- 1:41:29Speaker 1: Thank you.
- 1:41:30Speaker 1: Guitar solo.
- 1:41:30Speaker 1: She was hot, she was blammy, but when I started jamming she said to me in the air Baby you've got something on.
- 1:42:38Speaker 2: I feel a hit, I feel a hit.
- 1:42:42Speaker 2: I feel a hit.
- 1:42:44Speaker 2: I feel a hit.
- 1:42:46Speaker 2: Every time we jump, I feel a hit and the ears go round.
- 1:42:53Speaker 2: I feel a hit, baby, and the air is cool.
- 1:42:54Speaker 2: But I feel a net, baby, something in your pocket.
- 1:43:27Speaker 2: I feel a net, feel a net, feel a net.
- 1:43:29Speaker 2: We'll be right back your early weekend, early, early in the week.
- 1:43:33Speaker 2: We're looking forward to next week.
- 1:43:36Speaker 2: It's a holiday at the end of this month, so try not to take too much a day off, too much a time off, too much a sick leave.
- 1:43:42Speaker 2: Whatever you have to take, don't take it this week.
- 1:43:44Speaker 2: Right, it's a day in between, holiday and between.
- 1:43:47Speaker 2: All it is going with is take things and make them into long-term along here that are leaving Oli.
- 1:43:53Speaker 2: Next time I talk to Oli, we finally are 200.
- 1:43:57Speaker 2: So let's stay safe and stay good and I will see Oli next week.
- 1:44:00Speaker 2: Bye, I did it.
- 1:44:06Speaker 2: Every time we jump, I did it.