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122 Bigfoot Appeared WITH a Glowing Orb?! Kevin LeStarge’s Terrifying Encounter · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: There was this massive dog man and he had already
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  Speaker 1: had one Paul, massive Paul on my front the chield,
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  Speaker 1: and one Paul right above my mirror on the driver's side,
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  Speaker 1: and the driver's side of my car just pushed down,
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  Speaker 1: just the weight of it just puts pushed down, and
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  Speaker 1: the Paul that was on my front windshield, my windshield
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  Speaker 1: started cracking.
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  Speaker 2: And held it and held it and held it. And
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  Speaker 2: then while I was holding it, but it's like the.
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  Speaker 3: Ground underneath me.
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  Speaker 2: Just kind of opened up and I just kind of
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  Speaker 2: fell through the planet.
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  Speaker 3: He wasn't moving, he wasn't blinking, like there was a
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  Speaker 3: complete like just like blankness to his face, like there
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  Speaker 3: was this there was nothing there.
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  Speaker 2: I rubbed my corn my.
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  Speaker 1: Truck, I jump out the truck truck, and that's what
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  Speaker 1: I knew it was.
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  Speaker 3: It was just gold mare. There would be a real
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  Speaker 3: low gteral crowd. One more step and he's going to
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  Speaker 3: be in clear view.
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  Speaker 1: And he takes that one.
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  Speaker 3: More step and he just it was like he just
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  Speaker 3: stepped behind an invisible curtain and he wasn't there anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back to the show, everybody. This is episode two
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  Speaker 3: with mister Kevin le Starch Bigfoot researcher and author. All
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  Speaker 3: links in the description below. Go down there and check
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  Speaker 3: out his books and support Kevin's research. He came on
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  Speaker 3: and told me about his one of his encounters where
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  Speaker 3: he was out researching Bigfoot and he saw this strange
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  Speaker 3: orb orange. It grew in size and then it dissipated suddenly,
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  Speaker 3: and all of a sudden as he heard a growl.
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  Speaker 3: He then found some friends, went back and some strange
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  Speaker 3: things happens. Very very interesting episode. Thank you Kevin so
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  Speaker 3: much for coming on the show. If you are new
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  Speaker 3: guys are enjoying the new intro. Bruce Brown was on
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  Speaker 3: there and many many others. I pulled some really cool
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  Speaker 3: I hope you enjoyed his episode with mister Kevin the
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  Speaker 3: starch A. Buddy. Oh, like I said, I was telling
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  Speaker 3: you in in the green room there and behind the
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  Speaker 3: you know, when we got to meet each other there,
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  Speaker 3: it's it's it's hotter than the dickens down here in
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  Speaker 3: the Yucatan Peninsula. Buddy, it's hot today.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm up in the ninth and cool Wisconsin climate weather.
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  Speaker 2: So we're on the opposite ends of the spectrum right now.
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  Speaker 3: I was talking about, Buddy, we did. I have another
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  Speaker 3: show called it's called the Cat Skin. He's a former
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  Speaker 3: comic like myself, also a vet. There's with PTSD like myself.
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  Speaker 3: And he's like, oh, it's a fifty degrees up here
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  Speaker 3: or whatever it was. I was like, holy why, so Kevin,
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  Speaker 3: please do my favorite tell everybody a little bit about
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  Speaker 3: yourself where we can find anybody.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, And I appreciate you doing this at the
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  Speaker 2: at the front end, so no worries.
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  Speaker 3: We'll do it at the back end too, Yeah, appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, no people can find me.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm trying to build out this uh Bigfoot archive,
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  Speaker 2: so therefore on Instagram. You can find me at the
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  Speaker 2: Bigfoot Archive. This is all things magazine, books, artifacts, anything
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  Speaker 2: kind of you know, museum esque if you will, of
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  Speaker 2: the Bigfoot topic. You know, also did publish children's book
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  Speaker 2: Billy Finds Bigfoot, which is right here if anyone's watching.
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  Speaker 2: But then also is It Real or Not, which is
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  Speaker 2: more of the middle grade book, so children's book to young,
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  Speaker 2: young young adults, I would say, but you know, that's
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  Speaker 2: that's kind of You can find the books both on Amazon.
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  Speaker 2: Billy Finds Bigfoot you can also find on Hangar one Publishing,
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  Speaker 2: but that was kind.
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  Speaker 3: Of in the know.
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  Speaker 2: That is Doug Hicheck. He is the producer of Monster Quest.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, that is publishing company.
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  Speaker 2: But then also you can find Is It Real or
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  Speaker 2: Not at Barnes and otherwise if you just like merch
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  Speaker 2: Bigfoot t shirts, mugs, things like that. I am also
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  Speaker 2: on Etsy, ads, Pine Shadow Designs. So all the places
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  Speaker 2: you can find me, but reach out at the Bigfoot Archive.
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  Speaker 2: That's probably the easiest way.
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  Speaker 3: Fantastic. Oh wow, so I think I believe for certain.
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  Speaker 3: Actually I know you are the first author that I
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  Speaker 3: have had on the show that has done a a
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  Speaker 3: you know, a sasquatch themed book for children. Why why that?
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  Speaker 3: It's interesting Maybe if I had to guess or adventure,
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  Speaker 3: I guess would be something like, you know, kids have
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  Speaker 3: seen these things. It's kind of like, hey, it's okay,
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  Speaker 3: don't be afraid, we've seen them too, kind of thing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm guessing, and sure, it's it could be that. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it all kind of depends on perhaps the you know,
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  Speaker 2: the adult reading to the child or the little in
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  Speaker 2: their life, right, and so again the great for any
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  Speaker 2: person who has that type of situation, and so any
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  Speaker 2: little in your life, get them a book. But it's
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  Speaker 2: it's partly that, but it's also partly you know, kind
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  Speaker 2: of the foundation for me was basically having the family
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  Speaker 2: structure that you know, my parents allowed me to really
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  Speaker 2: explore and to ask questions, and they were really big
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  Speaker 2: proponents of thinking outside the box, you know, and so
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  Speaker 2: wanted to kind of allow the space for the next
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  Speaker 2: generation of Bigfooters to have that as well and to
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  Speaker 2: kind of get them started, you know, tom. But on
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  Speaker 2: top of that, there's also just some life lessons that
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  Speaker 2: I was going through during the time writing the book,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, doing all the illustrations that I wanted
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  Speaker 2: to kind of share some early life lessons, one of
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  Speaker 2: them being, you know, don't take what you have in
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  Speaker 2: front of you for granted, right, And I think that's
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  Speaker 2: a very hard lesson for adults to even learn, you know,
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  Speaker 2: even now, right as where adults getting older to try
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  Speaker 2: to kind of instill in them that sense of, you know,
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  Speaker 2: take appreciate it, Appreciate what you have in front of you,
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  Speaker 2: Appreciate the animals, Appreciate the fact that, like you could
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  Speaker 2: potentially be walking in the woods meet someone and or something, right,
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  Speaker 2: and like you want to be respectful of that other
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  Speaker 2: being or creature or person or whoever it is.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So that was the kind of the kicking off point
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  Speaker 2: for why I wanted to produce this book and write
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  Speaker 2: it and illustrate it.
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  Speaker 3: But you illustrated it as well. See it again, you
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  Speaker 3: illustrated it as well. Yes, wow, okay, we all right,
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  Speaker 3: we got wow. That's uh, that's fantastic, buddy. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know what to say about that. I mean, I could
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  Speaker 3: paint a little bit, and I'm a musician, but they
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  Speaker 3: illustrate a book is a whole another thing.
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  Speaker 2: It's yeah, no, I mean and funny enough, this is
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  Speaker 2: also before AI came around, right, But you know, I
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  Speaker 2: remember drawing is with you know, pen and pencil and
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  Speaker 2: you know, marker here and there, and then having to
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  Speaker 2: xeroxit into take a scan of it. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if people know what xerox even means anymore, but scan
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  Speaker 2: it and like get into my computer and then then
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  Speaker 2: put some color to it. So anyway, but it was
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  Speaker 2: a lot of fun, and you know the same thing
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  Speaker 2: of where I kind of am now in my office
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  Speaker 2: where it's it's it's so much fun to kind of
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  Speaker 2: create these characters in your head and your mind and
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  Speaker 2: you know, see what they do. And at the end
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  Speaker 2: of the day, Tom, like you can kind of write
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  Speaker 2: your book or you know, just even journal about sasquatch
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  Speaker 2: and your thoughts about it, and sooner or later you
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  Speaker 2: almost kind of can feel like that sasquatch presence like
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  Speaker 2: sitting right there with you, you know, and you can
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  Speaker 2: kind of have this energy that's creative and it's exciting
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  Speaker 2: because again we don't quite know, you know this, we
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  Speaker 2: can get into this, but like we don't quite know
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  Speaker 2: what the sasquatch is. A lot of people, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's either flesh and flesh and blood. It's more WU,
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  Speaker 2: it's more this shape shifter type of so. But it's
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  Speaker 2: just an exciting topic. It's a very interesting toss and
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  Speaker 2: it has been for me since I was a kid.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's let's go ahead and begin there. I was
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  Speaker 3: reading in your bio that it kind of started for
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  Speaker 3: you as you kind of trampled in your you know,
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  Speaker 3: formative years through like the woods of the Upper North.
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  Speaker 3: Well the north was the Upper Midwest and I think Wisconsin, right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. So you know when the internet was
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  Speaker 2: first kicking off, you know, first website once he was
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  Speaker 2: the bf O Bigfoot Field Reachers Organization, met moneymakers, you
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  Speaker 2: know website, you know company rather and you know, I
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  Speaker 2: was outside in the backyard at a very early age
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  Speaker 2: trying to understand is it possible to run on all
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  Speaker 2: fours and then stand up and high tail it across
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  Speaker 2: the backyard like a sasquatch could?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Like couldn't when humans do this?
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  Speaker 3: Right? Okay?
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  Speaker 2: It just it got me at an early age of
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  Speaker 2: to think of what is it that a sasquatch has,
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  Speaker 2: like it is it possible that it's human? And the
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  Speaker 2: reason why I kind of thought that way is because
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  Speaker 2: of the Patterson Giveman footage of nineteen sixty seven where
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  Speaker 2: you know, you you know, it's the it's that famous
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  Speaker 2: that one frame, which.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of hoopla lately about that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Rame three fifty two is kind of like the
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  Speaker 2: quintessential one.
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  Speaker 3: Davis Okay, yeah, so.
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  Speaker 2: But also Bill Muns and I can totally get onto
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  Speaker 2: the Bill month side of that, but like so, it
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  Speaker 2: just it was it was that, and I think it
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  Speaker 2: was also there's a there's footage of Prince Edward Island.
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  Speaker 2: I always come back to this because it was just
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  Speaker 2: so cool where you had this guy kind of high
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  Speaker 2: tailing it out of the woods, looking maybe back over
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  Speaker 2: his shoulder, freaked out, but then you see this dark creature,
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  Speaker 2: you know, look like this asquatch kind of on all fours,
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  Speaker 2: but then stand up and then then take off. But
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  Speaker 2: it was it was so fluid, and I remember that
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  Speaker 2: just sticking with me so so much and being so
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  Speaker 2: excited at the prospect of there are creatures in this
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  Speaker 2: world that we don't really understand it, that we haven't
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  Speaker 2: science has equitement gotten there all about.
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  Speaker 3: It's human nature. It's human nature. It's like the unknown
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  Speaker 3: is what we wanted to be known, whether it be God,
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  Speaker 3: whether it be the edges of the universe, consciousness, whatever,
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  Speaker 3: the Big Bang, or it came to the first in German,
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  Speaker 3: all kind of what happened before that which makes.
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  Speaker 2: No sense, or the thrill the powers that.
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  Speaker 3: Be, yeah, whatever, it may be, right right right, right,
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  Speaker 3: right right, okay, okay, we might have to do another
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  Speaker 3: show just about that. It's just human nature and that's
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  Speaker 3: why sasquatch and it seems to be so such a
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  Speaker 3: common occurrence in which people are running across these you know,
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  Speaker 3: forest creatures whatever you want to call them, where people
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  Speaker 3: won't even go back in the woods hunting anymore. Just
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  Speaker 3: like you know, I've been after my whole lifetime and
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  Speaker 3: I ain't going back. It's a really you know that's
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  Speaker 3: a Southern con accent, but indeed, you know that's Americana. Dude.
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  Speaker 3: That's such a big part of our culture. And for
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  Speaker 3: someone to cut that out of their existence, to me,
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  Speaker 3: it's more than enough, more than enough. I would you say,
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  Speaker 3: information that I need to know that this is real.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean even the Ivan G. Sanderson book, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Abominable Snowmen, that is a fantastic book because that actually
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  Speaker 2: goes across every continent, damn near every consonant on Earth
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  Speaker 2: beside sant Artica and maybe a couple of islands. But
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  Speaker 2: every consonant has had or has frankly a sasquatch like character.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely bigfoot sasquatch like. It's always always value right, So
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  Speaker 2: you know, wood Booger in the US, we have very
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  Speaker 2: regionalized versions of this creature. But I think to me
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  Speaker 2: that that's that's also very important in in the argument,
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  Speaker 2: And the reason why I think it's an argument is
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  Speaker 2: because still to this day, Pete, and again this is
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  Speaker 2: you kind of we're noting. There's a certain documentary that's
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  Speaker 2: out there that's really calling that this is the Patterson
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  Speaker 2: Giblan footage is a hoax and it's a suit And
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I just it's it's unfortunate that it's really
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  Speaker 2: rattled a lot of what I who I would have
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  Speaker 2: thought as knowers, but now thinking that, oh, you're right,
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  Speaker 2: it's a hoax.
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  Speaker 3: But in do you want to do? You want to
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  Speaker 3: go down that route? Time? You want to go down
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  Speaker 3: that I haven't even watched him, man, I I just
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  Speaker 3: seen that it popped up on my screen. There's so
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  Speaker 3: many things to watch and I just can't.
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  Speaker 2: Not even and it's not even out yet per se.
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  Speaker 2: So this was actually a documentary that was first shown
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  Speaker 2: at south By Southwest near Texas in Austin.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, it's like a film festival or some.
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  Speaker 2: Time, yea. So that footage or what they are saying
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  Speaker 2: is is this costume that you know somehow someone had it?
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  Speaker 2: Someone had it after all these you know, it goes
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  Speaker 2: back to like someone who knew someone who knew someone
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  Speaker 2: who worked at boweling who then knew someone right all
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  Speaker 2: this weird stuff. Who had that? Who had the costume?
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  Speaker 2: But long story short, it's like there's there's so many
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  Speaker 2: studies that have been done on this footage. And this
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  Speaker 2: is where again I kind of go on the Bill
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  Speaker 2: Mun's side of things, and like, if you haven't, please
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  Speaker 2: check out the book When Roger met Patty. That's Bill
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  Speaker 2: Mun's book. It's all about the PG film and he
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  Speaker 2: really does, I think, a beautiful job of kind of
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  Speaker 2: dissecting the film science behind that footage. Then you have
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  Speaker 2: doctor Jeff Meldrum, who I was actually out in the
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  Speaker 2: field with a couple of times and being able to
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  Speaker 2: talk to him, and just the amount of not only
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  Speaker 2: like scientific view of this, but then also just like
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  Speaker 2: the kind of the collegiate view, like he had that
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  Speaker 2: academia behind him, that really, I mean, he could speak
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  Speaker 2: to it and he knew that when he would be
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  Speaker 2: looking at footprints PG film aside, when he's looking at
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  Speaker 2: these footprints, you can't fake that, like he knew of
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  Speaker 2: those things. So this is where I'm just like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they're totally out there. It's just a matter of what
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  Speaker 2: does it mean to your point about.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's a SiO buddy, I gotta be I'm
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  Speaker 3: just gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna say it. It's a
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  Speaker 3: siop Like Okay, So what happens at this yea psychological
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  Speaker 3: operation because look, once we we say, for example, it
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  Speaker 3: is now accepted for whatever reason, we're on the verge
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  Speaker 3: of being able to prove to the you know, the academia,
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  Speaker 3: that these are real things and now it can be
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  Speaker 3: measured in sometimes type of quantifiable way. Okay, all right, great,
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  Speaker 3: So once that happens, what happens then we have to say, okay,
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  Speaker 3: this is this is the United States still the United
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  Speaker 3: States anymore? Or the are these now recognized as a
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  Speaker 3: species of humans per se, and I would say most
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  Speaker 3: likely yes, Then what kind of rights do they have?
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  Speaker 3: What kind of property rights? Uh? The fear of people? Money?
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  Speaker 2: Who knows what you're bumbling up against our multi billion
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  Speaker 2: dollar companies. You have logging and they have hunting too,
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  Speaker 2: of course, so that is kind of to me where yeah,
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  Speaker 2: there's some strainane, some real good strangeness happening.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 2: I believe that there are military instances where black ops
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  Speaker 2: have i mean talking with Tom Powell and actually have
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  Speaker 2: gone out there with Tom Powell as well. I mean
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  Speaker 2: he has shared stories of that. He so the military
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  Speaker 2: is aware of it. There are instances where when mounsint
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  Speaker 2: Helen's had erupted that the military actually had to go
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  Speaker 2: in in and remove the bodies.
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  Speaker 3: No oh really and Mount Saint Ella's I didn't know that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was kind of I mean, those are
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  Speaker 2: also some stories right that you could hear in the
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  Speaker 2: Bigfoot community and Bigfoot sphere stuff. But as far as
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  Speaker 2: the you know, I don't quite understand why the protection
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  Speaker 2: of it if it's not the billion dollar companies logging
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  Speaker 2: and you know, hunting industries and all those things. I
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  Speaker 2: don't quite know what the protection instance would be for
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  Speaker 2: these creatures.
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  Speaker 3: I'm telling you, man, if we if we as a
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  Speaker 3: human species really recognize the fact that on this planet
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  Speaker 3: there is another humanoid species that is just as intelligent,
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  Speaker 3: but in a different way than we are, we will
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  Speaker 3: freak the f out.
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  Speaker 2: To that point, Tom, we have a current administration who
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  Speaker 2: seems to be wanting to share a lot about extraterrestrial
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  Speaker 2: and aliens.
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  Speaker 3: All right, okay, yes, but not sasquatch. What do you
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  Speaker 3: think it's a stepping stone? Think it's a stepping stone because.
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  Speaker 2: I would think that they would want to do something
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  Speaker 2: from this planet that we just don't quite know, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like like fish that we don't even know if that
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  Speaker 2: exists in the seas well.
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  Speaker 3: And that's where I think they actually come from. I
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  Speaker 3: don't think they're extraterrestrials. I think they're sub terrestrials where
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  Speaker 3: you want to call them. I mean, we've explored more
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  Speaker 3: of the universe than we have of our own oceans.
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  Speaker 3: I think they come out of the ocean. That's my opinion,
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: and I can I rewind that.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: What do you think? What do you think comes out
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: of the ocean?
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Whatever that is, I don't know what it is. I've
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: talked to dog Doug Hycheck and he's talking about things
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: that's coming out of his lake. You know. Yeah, I'm
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: just saying that's UFO types out of the ocean. No,
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: I haven't said, dad. That would be cool, though, I
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: never thought crossing lines of communication. No, no, no, no, no,
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: I'm talking about I'm talking about the actual UFO. A
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: whole new podcast now that would be That would be
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: a really really cool one. Actually, that would be cool
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: if they were pilots. I wouldn't see, let's say, because
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: you know that they're okay. The WU element, which is
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: a word that's been put on there to make it
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: kind of, you know, to demonize it a little bit
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: more than a little bit. It's kind of like taints.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: It taints the meaning of it. But I've heard so
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: many instances if someone like there's an orb and then
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: it just goes around the corner, and then next thing
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: you know, there's a sash squatch crossing the ridge, and
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: then there's also a UFO involved with it as well.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: It's such a people say, oh, it's connected somehow, but
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: it's such a I don't know how to because you
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: know how people use these certain phraseology that keeps coming in.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: I went down this rabbit hole, and I was triggered
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: in all this trying to make sure I don't use
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: those Well, I don't know what are you thinking? I mean?
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: So that's that was actually my first experience. So, okay,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: we're in Los Alamos, New Mexico with the.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: BFR and Los Alamos. Yeah, you mean like white sands
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: that area?
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Uh No, this was up in the mountains.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: Okay, that's It's very interesting, okay, because I know, isn't
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: it where.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: They they literally like they connect it's like mountains, and
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: then I think you do perhaps have the white sands?
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: But what did they call that the trinity? The Trinity test?
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Wasn't there? What is it called trinity? Where they have
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: the first nuclear bomb test? Isn't that near there or
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: on I off base? I don't know.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna be honest, I don't know.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Okay, So what was the where was the first I'm
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: gonna I'm gonna ask my AI brain. Where was the
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: first nuclear test taking place? New Mexico? Trinity location Ornardo
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: de Muertos, so something of the dead. I don't know
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: what that first word is. So somehere's in New Mexico,
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: so we're in an area. Let's we'll go with that
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: for now.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: But as I'm looking at it as well, there are
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: so many Trinity somethings.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: It's a weird thing that we use the word. It's
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: interesting they would use trinity too. And I'm not even
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: a religious person. Just that they would use trinity in
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: that is also an interesting Why would they use that phraseology?
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: It just just came to my head right now. Ah.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not going to get into why a
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: person decided to name something the way they did.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: It's that's a seed in my mind. Why the first
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: nuclear bond test is named after some type of religious concept.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: It's weird to me. I don't know, it's just me,
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: I would say.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: So as I'm kind of looking at it, I would
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: say that that's not towards that area. Okay, Okay, it's
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: maybe more so right from what I can tell. Long
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: stort short though, it was my first experience second night
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: that we we definitely you know, I I saw an
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: orb that was about the size of a softball, grapefruit,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: amber orange. They got it maybe as big as a
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: basketball or like a medicine ball. And kind of expanded,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: got to a certain point, and then it was off
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: to the point where I thought it was one of
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: the guys that we were with, one of the leads
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: of the group. But come to find out that this
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: light source was actually in the middle of a tree,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: which was thirty feet up from where we were, because
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: what eyeline is was actually a you know, a hill
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: or drop off, and up the drop off the tree,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: there you go. So you're seeing something the eyeline, but
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: it's actually thirty feet up in the air. So that
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: was kind of the first bit.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: But then.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Getting ahead of myself what I did.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Or I'm sorry, did you say that the orb dissipated
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: or disappeared or what happened?
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Shut off?
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: Oh you just you just didn't see it no more.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So okay, went on kind of turned on like
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: a light. You could see the reflection of other you know,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: the leaf litter. Because at this point I was like, oh,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: it's someone's head lamp, right headlight and radioed in and no,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: that's no one there that you're you're, you know, minutes
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: away from connecting with us. There's no way you're biased
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: because I was bearing bearing the lead a little bit,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: but what why why we had come back up the
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: trail is because we had gotten growled at the super
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: deep guttural growl. Go back to try to find these
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: other two folks that, you know, we're kind of in
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: our group of five, so we were three, you know,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: got grawled that tried to go back for the other two.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Saw the ORB radioed in is this you No, it's
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: not us. They then met us back up. I didn't
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: even I didn't even think or like I perhaps compartmentalized
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: what I had seen as far as the light source
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: because we had just got growled at. And that's what
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: I'm here for, is like, what the hell was that
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: grawl which was deep in guttural shook shook my shirt,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: you know, and Tom, this at this time of night?
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: I want to say, this was obviously like past midnight,
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: maybe closer to one o'clock, and you know, the moon
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: was full. I think that's super important for any bigfoot
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: out there. Like I know there's those who are out
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: there who are like, oh, I want to go during
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: a full loom where it's completely pitch black. That's cool.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: You're not going to see nothing, if anything, it's going
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: to illuminate you even better, so they can see you
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: even better. So that's just my theory. But it was
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: also super still, I mean so still, no bugs, no mosquitoes,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: no flies, no nothing, no wind of course, and like
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: you could actually hear your pulse beating in your ear,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: that's how quiet it was. So it was almost like
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: an an a coach chamber. It was crazy wow. And
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: so we gathered up, we went to where we were
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: grawled at. It came across this meadow on the other
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: you know, kind of incline of a meadow. And then
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: as we crossed this meadow, there's a tree line and
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: one of the guys who we went to go get
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: is like six', eight so if you can, imagine we
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: were three of, us this creature growled at. Us we ran,
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: away and it thought that it thought that it had
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: gotten rid of. Us, okay but then we show up
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: with two, more one of which is more of a
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: threat because this dude six' eight closed, YOU know i
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: approached seven, feet tall which is nuts, and so and
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: the same guy brought out this, wood knocker knocked on. It,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Twice nothing but then as we approached this woodline, got again,
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: you know maybe fifteen feet into this, woodline, front, snap
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: pop all of this leaf litter. Coming down we knew
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: that a tree was getting, broken down, you know in.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Our direction this was maybe about thirty yards away. From
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: us and this is the part of WHERE it's i
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: always find it. Super interesting then you hear this RUMBLE
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: and i see all these shadows popping up and like
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: getting up and starting to literally high. Tail it well
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: they're high tailing it because it was about thirty to
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: thirty five maybe even forty unattended mountain cattle had gotten
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: up from, their slumber was now stampede eating down the
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: meadow we had. Just crossed and then as, that subsided
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: you hear, this, crunch crunch like this bipedal walking just
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: down down the other side of this hill ravine that we. Were,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: On right SO what i thought is so crazy about that, is,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: like yes there was that or but then also the
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: fact that this let's just call it a sasquatch for what, it,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: is right was by. This cattle it was either there,
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: for shelter for, heat source. For protection it was trying
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: to grab, a burger and like we disrupted it.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: Maybe like a diffusion kind. Of, situation, yeah yeah and any,
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: YOU know i.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Don't know but what it's interesting is is that this
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: thing was next to this cattle and they. Didn't move
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: so they already perhaps seen this thing multiple times or
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: they just didn't hear it, in general but it. Didn't
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: ookam we didn't even spook. This cattle and we were,
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: five men, you know like helps perhaps coming across. This
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: meadow but what did was this broken. Down tree that
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: was the signal to get the hell out. Of here
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: and not only did it tried to signal that, to
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: us but like the cattle clearly got, that. Message right
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: so it just that was that Was the that was
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: the BITE where i, was like, oh man NOW now
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: i got the. Bigfoot bite. I'm infected here's like a
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: lifelong Journey that i'm like Road that i'm now going
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: to have to.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: Go down how long ago, Was? This kevin this was.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: Back in twenty. Twelve, timeframe okay so about fourteen. Years,
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: Ago okay well and so you just so you just
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: what started searching in the Woods of minnesota or.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: So then leads are, All, that yeah what did?
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: What happened so from there we Went. To arizona nothing really.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: HAPPENED there i Went To Sam Houston national Park in
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: texas again because we were just Living in texas at
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: the time. WE did i did see another, orb there
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: so that was wasn't, expecting it but it was literally
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: so the One In new mexico is totally, a sphere
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: but the One in texas was more of like an.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Oval SHAPE and i actually have this like an. Audio
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: recording it was more of a pinkish amber or, excuse
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: me a pinkish, reddish color almost like the tail light
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: of a nineteen Ninety. Five cadillac like this was, just, Long, right.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Okay can to imagine a making model? Of, year, okay
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: sure long the fifty nine has a, long fin but
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: we're ninety.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Just thinking Of a cadillac and those.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: LONG tails i, GOT you i, Got, YOU yeah i,
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: do know, JUST yeah.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I have it, on RECORDING and, i said what is
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: the card doing in? The woods it just it baffled
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: me because THAT'S what, I thought that's what my brain,
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: put together, you know that's the puzzle piece that my
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: brain was, trying to, you know. Figure out then, of
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: course turned on. Long light it didn't, really move it.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Just disappeared that.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: Was, it.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: So, you know other, than that we did catch some
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: like crazy. AS smells i had a relative who thought
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: that maybe a sas, quaesch mean perhaps brushed past, our
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: tent because it was just this putrid cat pee cat
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: urine smell mixed, with onions mixed with, you know literally like,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: a dumpster and that would wake anybody up other, than that.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: You know then this took a that took me into
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: kind of my exploration To The. Pacific northwest the next
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: best kind of EXPERIENCE that i had was capturing, on
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: audio which you, can again you can hear it On the.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: BIGFOOT archive i have. THAT there i everyone wants to
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: go back and look. At that but what IS what
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: i believe is actually a baby sasquatch that be caught
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: in a tree blowing raspberries or bubbles kind of the type. Of,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: thing yeah just like, that time and it?
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: Did, it okay look. At me i've never been, up
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: THERE so. I could i would have, to, say no is? That,
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: Okay yeah. I'm talking i'm talking to my. Lawyer earlier.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: He's shaking.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: His, head, no, no, no, no no. He's, imaginary yeah.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: In dimensional when you when you run across someone who
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: says something, like that do you don't just automatically dismiss
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: it because of your experience of the scene. And order
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: just that alone make.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: It kind Of goes so it goes back to A
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: how i, WAS raised, i think but also just allowing
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: people to you can't dismiss someone's experience, like no, you
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: know people go through so much in. Their life, and,
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: again yes your brain tries to put, things together. YOU
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: know i was on another podcast where it was kind
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: of an interesting conversation where people were literally seeing a
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: doorway of sorts and a sasquatch walking through it or. Behind,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: it YEAH so.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: I had, I had i had Somebody on who's who? Saw?
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: This who that's my representation of what, he, Saw.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Right yeah and so my my theory to THAT because
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: I BELIEVE i'm i try to put as much logic
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: behind a THOUGHT before i speak as MUCH as.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: I can, oh yeah oh and, sometimes no sometimes JUST
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: the i enjoy the let's see where, this goes or
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: you get caught in the middle of a sentence like
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: this one's gonna be bumpy on the. Way OUT.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: But i think what is interesting is my thinking is
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: that people are they're seeing. This sasquatch that's enough to
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: make anybody lose. Their, mind perhaps but then also seeing,
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: it DISAPPEAR and, i think what my MY when i
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: was talking to this other PERSON was i think that's
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: partially potentially our brain trying to understand what it is
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: that we saw with a sasquatch and then. It, disappearing
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: well what if your brain puts, or imagines so, to
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: speak this doorway or whatever it. Might be, and again
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: all this all this, TO say i can't dismiss someone's, experience,
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: if if if your background is truly what someone saw
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: that my brain didn't. Imagine it this is exactly. What
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: happened it's the. Same INSTANCE and i love to bring
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: up this experience that someone SHARED was i saw a
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: sasquatch walk out of a spaceship and it was handcuffed to.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: A briefcase, I can't i cannot. Dismiss that that is that.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Person's experience that's what that's what.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: They.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Saw okay now trying to stay on the more flesh
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: and blood side, of things, because frankly if it's, anything
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: else it's already hard enough to study the, subject matter
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: to get people to buy into, the topic to have
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: really kind of that logical conversation with the general public.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: General public so. To speak IT'S like i just try
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: to keep it on on some type of a of
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: a keep it within. The arena that's someone that doesn't
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: dig the topic can.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: Can, understand yeah you want to make it kind of
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: accessible and easy on ramp onto the possibility. OF existing
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: i know what you're, looking for but it's easier to
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: accept the fact that it might be an unknown animal
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: than it is to say there's some type of inter
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: dimensional being walking in. The woods, that's, right right that's
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: what you're. Basically saying.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Reason the, reason why thank You. Interpreter tom the reason
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: why is because it IS because i think in order
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: for science to, acknowledge it the minute we start, talking
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: wu the minute we start talking anything extraterrestrial portals or
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: anything else, than that that is that, fringe, Science, right
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: like it just becomes such an. Uphill BATTLE and i
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: think in my heart of hearts that it does, take
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: us so it takes us further away from being able
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: to teach this in the classrooms and to and to.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: Protect, it yeah it's a precarious position to be in
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: because you want to take people's experiences as. Being real
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: like we were talking as you were leading up to
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: what you. Just SAID but i think a good way
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: of going about it is like people, enjoy statistics and
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: you could say things like, deferming paradox, you know, like
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: oh over a one star on one, you know arm
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: of The milk, away galaxy and there's more galaxies within,
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: the universe and or grains of sand on The. On
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: earth so therefore there must be life and. Other planets
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: that makes sense, To me and then, you, go, Okay
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: cool now if there's let's just say there's. ONE thousand
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: i know there's a lot more reported saasquatch sightings Within
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: The united states alone within the last, ten years which
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: is it's it's more. Than easily now, statistically speaking what's
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: the possibilities of one of those actually? Being real while,
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: that statistic that likelihood is. Very high so therefore you
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: would have to then accept at, least STATISTICALLY which i
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: think is a great on WRAP as i was, using this,
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: you know this analogy to get. Into that but if
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: someone comes to me, and says like you, were saying,
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: YOU know i heard, ONE recently I because i was
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: speaking To A native american and, he said they've seen
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: one inside of. The orb the orb expanded and then
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: he got completely to, his size and then it. WAS
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: there i, Was, LIKE okay I gotta i gotta listen
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: to that because it just makes sense. To me i've
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: heard many. Other things but for the, you know, you
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: know The average joe or that. That's hard that's hard
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: for somebody who sells, pepsi products, you know and that's
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: what to accept something, LIKE that, i understand.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Or or, you know for the white, collar worker they
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: don't want to hear that IgE of the world that they.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: LIVE. In hm so.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: That's where for, me personally, it's, like man, you know
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: as much as those stories are so exciting and, you
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: know this is actually kind of where, You Know ronnie
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: LeBlanc's Book International interdimensional sasquatch IS like i was so
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: excited to read THAT because i want to be aware
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: of that side of this potential creature if, that's.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: Something right.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: But then immediately kind of his first chapter dives into
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: these what do they, call it like, fire eagles right
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: or something, like that that indigenous people would seen the sky,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: and okay, fire, entities right, you know some type of,
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: flying creature and it's like he immediately dives into that
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: experience and, it's, LIKE oh i don't KNOW if. I
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: CAN it's i couldn't get past chapter One because i'm
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: even with myself, of.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: Like oh you're going to go right off the.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Bat to the other end of the spectrum before we
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: get to meeting in.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: The middle, like yeah it's kind of like being a
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: metal head and introducing somebody to. Metal music you want, To, go,
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: okay listen This is welcome To. The jungle this is
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: This is Metallica, the black This. Is death that's a.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Great one and we're trying to get You To, James,
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: TAYLOR like.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: I DON'T think i can make a. Better analogy then that.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: Was fantastic this is job for, a cowboy and we're
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: getting To, THE beatles, i mean is a. Much. BETTER
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: oh i just happened to have, these, here man check.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: This out these are These are mayan. Pottery shards.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: That's.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: AWESOME yeah i found THEM when i was doing a.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: SOLAR array i just happen to look over and, see
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: Them and i've been wanting to. Show, PEOPLE yeah I
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: just i was doing a well pump for a cattle
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: ranch and they were stuck underneath the solar panel ARRAY
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: and i, Was like i'm not gonna just let these. Sit,
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: HERE this, i mean that's that's got some energy. To
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: IT but i have a very positive energy about ME
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: and i vibe. With it and my Girlfriend is MAYAN
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: and i treat, her well so. WE'RE good i, was
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: like is, this? Okay baby, she's like which is Also a,
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: Catholic teacher, she's, like yeah, It no it's just like
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: life is so. SO interesting, I mean i, JUST love.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: I love, i, mean like how do you. GET people
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: i know that it isn't our purview we're talking about
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: now in your book, and everything but how do you
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: get someone, To, go, okay look there's this, you know
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: possibly even if it's a flesh and, Blake, creature okay
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: this is large bipedal primate that seems to be walking
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: in the forest of, the world, and many many people
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: and many ancestral people have. Seen it it's in, their
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: literature it's in.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Their.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: Folklore okay now let's talk about a werewolf like? Dog, men,
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: yeah right you how do you?
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Do that it's so funny because the dog. MAN thing
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: i think.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: One of.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: TWO things i think either the bigfoot community is getting
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: bored because they are just out there for years and
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: decades and are not, seeing anything and they want something
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: more exciting and or thrilling. TO chase i think that
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: me personally and so Dog men and by, The way
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Dogmen in wisconsin is massive because WE have i think
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: we're the very first dog men entity state that ever
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: kind of shared the story Of the Beasts.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: OF brayer, I spoke i've spoken to. The farmer that's
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: just a.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: CLICK away, i mean that's just truly a, stone's.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: Throat, elk something elk something whatever the name of. THAT
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: area i can't think of the name of the huh. Elk, carn, yes, yes,
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: so yes what are you? Saying exactly you don't you're
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: not buying it so much?
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: OR what i no disrespect to the dog, and lovers, Perhaps,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: yourself TOM but i think it's potentially. A misidentification now
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: people will turn back at me and. Face off by.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: Having, a discussion that's. What's important it's not. A, look look,
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: it's like, it's like how do we. Get anywhere it's
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: just like a stupid political divide in. The world if we.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: Can't talk as soon as, talking stops then it's where.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: Violence starts, let's.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: Talk well, in it, but, yeah yeah, let's talk and
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: THEN here i am already is, Saying, that no you're
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: what you believe in. Is bs but it's the idea that,
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: YOU know i think it's it's. A MISIDENTIFICATION but i
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: think the, the rhetoric or like the argument is this
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: thing had point, to ears not a big. Foot thing
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: this thing had, a snout not necessarily a big. Foot
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: thing it's more of a, you know that could be
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: more of like a, baboon feature which some People say.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Sasquatch has but this thing, had claws not necessarily also a.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: Bigfoot feature this thing was thin and maybe more around
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: like the five foot height also not, necessarily, sasquatch right
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: although they do grow.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: Six and A half i normally here between six and
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: a half, seven feet THAT'S what i. Normally, hear yeah
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: so of a dog man, you're, saying, Yes yes i've actually.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: Had One, jody cooks who is the president Of The North,
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: american asis and we went through like a lot of
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: the pictures and is the is it? A toll what
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: do they? Call that where something is new doesn't mean it.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: Doesn't exist it is also In some american folklore it has. Been,
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: seen yeah could it, be? Something missus it could it
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: be like maybe a troop oficabra THAT'S being i. Don't
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: know there there's many different types of. Them too there's
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: the point of the. Air ones you were going, through, Them,
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: actually kevin they, were like you have the one that
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: looks more like, a hyaena and you have the ones
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: that kind of look like. A bulldog there's all. Different
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: types but what makes, You think i'm just we're walking down, the,
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: road uh you, know together, we're, chilling bro you, know whatever,
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: no picnic none of, that stuff but, we're hanging, you
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: know having a. Good, time well what makes you, to,
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: say like, YOU know I just i'm not buying it.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: SO much.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: I think it's just the idea of, you know, to
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: me let's go back to.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: The evolution side. Of, THINGS okay i.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: CAN bite i can bite off literally no, pun intended.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: PUN intended i can bite off on the idea of. A.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: Sasquatch yeah, of course.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: When, we're talking when we're talking a. Dog man now
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: we're on the lines, of, okay well now you're introducing
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: canine or wolf type of features that's, not evolutionary and
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: now we're potentially going into the realm or arena of
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: a shape shifter or potentially what what then a curse
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: of a werewolf type? Of, situation, Yes somebody and this
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: IS where, i ask, educate me what where is what
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: where is it? Coming from what's the evolutionary trait and
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: or the transition of this creature into what, it is
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: because at least it's it's got, to feed it's got,
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: to eat it's got, to reproduce it's got to do all.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: These things, so like someone educate me on you can
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: speak with.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: The gentleman name he's From the. Monstrous podcast he actually
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: went into the possibilities of them in their. Evolutionary possibilities
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: it's some Valley in it's a very remote valley In
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: Either northern yukon Territory of canada. Or something there's if you're, Going,
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: DOWN okay I need i need to fill this whole,
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: evolutionary WISE which i. AM having i listened to a
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: mathematician talk about evolution the possibilities. Of it also just, recently,
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: TOO man i didn't even know it was, YOU know,
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: I mean i WAS just. I was everything now has
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: been up in the air. With me now like wait,
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: a minute believe trust. The, science well that's, not science
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: that's not how, science works you don't. Trust it science is,
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: a process and would you redo the thing and say it?
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: Works again could? Science consensus there's no, such thing so.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: Everything IS what i will give grace to is the
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: idea that man the dog. Man CHARACTER and i just
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: thought about this the other DAY before i was going.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: To sleep don't, know why but you know we. Have those,
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: you know look at any of the pyramids and, the
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: hieroglyphics they have dog man. Type people, thank you, thank
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: you that traveled over as well To the european culture
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: in the. Medieval times and, you know, trust me if
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: anyone were to wish that there is some type of a,
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: werewolf character it's perhaps myself that's, my favorite or a character,
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: you know out of.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: The universe so do you think would help to? Convince
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: you that's a.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: Good, question true, you know probably having. That experience now
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: here's the, Thing.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: Though, OH true i can believe that. For sure IT.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: If i were to go in the woods looking for
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: a sasquatch, mm hmm and then all of, a sudden
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: instead of, A sasquatch i'm seeing this pointy eared snout
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: six foot tall, wolf character but now on, two legs
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: full on like just walking or hunching over potential. Carcass,
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: kill yeah that would THAT would i would probably be
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: the next person. That would my whole world would flip on.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: A Dime but i'm also already concerned about my mental
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: capacity for handling a true, sasquatch experience because that's that's
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: just a lot to, take, In RIGHT and i guess
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: for those who are going for the dog man side,
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: of things what? What is what are you trying? To
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: accomplish is it for yourself to realize that there's creatures
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: that haven't existed or you.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: KNOW that i just think people are running, into, HIM
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: man I really i believe. THEY are i just think
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: people are running into him and they're they're, you know
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: if you Listen To martin, groves account he's, Just like
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: i'm seeing a freaking werewolf and he does it basically
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: some of the same traits as when it comes Like
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: that infrasound thing where he frozen and he couldn't and
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: the only thing he can to stay to himself Was
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: Hail mary's he'm a police offers and he fires off at,
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: this thing, and uh you KNOW the. Lbl massacre it's
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: just there's there's there's been accounts from people who. Are
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: legit i'm talking people who've held, political office, political office
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: people who are, you, know uh. State troopers for, many
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: many many, many years, HE said i couldn't talk say
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: nothing about THIS because i would lose my job in.
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: My pension but now they, say it and it's kind, of,
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: like OKAY if i. Have to, you know, you know
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: this is a PLACE where i want people, to be
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: to be able to come forward with these kind. Of
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: things we're just having, a discussion, a discussion. No worries
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: so this is not me hitting me with a hammer
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: or anything. Like that that's a really, bad WHATEVER and
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: i NEW what i want is an open discussion. About,
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: it now if you don't, feel it well. That's fine
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: i'm not here to. Convince you i'm, just yeah it's
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: what is more believable than. THE other i agree with
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: that that that one is. Definitely true, FOR me I
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: believe bigfoot to be one Real and i'm like a
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: ninety On the. Witch movies, get yeah, Go, ahead yeah
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: it's just but because because Of The patterson gimblin film
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: and the muscle flex and the you can see the
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: the what, the hernia you can see the braid and
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: the hair here and all. Those things, you're, like yeah
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: why would you Make a hollywood suit with a brain?
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: On front that would be such a weird thing to.
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: Add on why would you? Do that there's so many
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: things where it's, like, okay, yeah, yeah, yea yeah. Yeah
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: yeah the other one's like why not well in, THAT well.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: I think to getting. YOUR point i think also what
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: would make me a believer too is, more footprints more,
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: Of IT and i want to hear from someone who's
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: also is, you know was like Like A jeffrey. MELDRUM
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: character i don't know of one because it's just like
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: that's not.
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: A topic, you mean you mean someone leaning more towards,
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: academia side who can Actually you you you like the
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: mystery and you like di, iewineness accounts but you also
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: want something that you can, Actually, say okay we can
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: kind of reproduce that has a Little, bit okay we
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: can see there's a mid tarsal break.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: Or, whatever yeah there should be some, authority figure but
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: who doesn't coin themselves as an expert or or. The
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: authority there should be someone who is Who, is again
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: this IS where i kind of go Into Doctor jeffrey
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: maldron Or Even. Bill Muns Like bill muns was not
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: necessarily a person who was into the. Bigfoot topic he
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: just happened upon it because of his experience and he
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: became interested in like people sent. Him things but so
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: this IS where I would i'm looking for within the.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Dogmen topic is there someone who HAS the i, don't
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: know animal tracking footprints that says this is? Something else,
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: please email, you know after the show here if there
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: is someone, like that or there's a podcast perhaps that
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: you've even had it, on yourself anything.
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: LIKE yeah i actually. Do That one oh what is?
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: His name? It was it had seven pads on, its
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: foot seven pads where he said that doesn't fit with
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: any animal note that, he knows and it's in the
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: snow and it's very. Real, looking yeah it's it's it's something,
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: NEW man, i understand like at least in the realm
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: of like what the hell is this in? The woods
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: animals or creatures or whatever you want to, you know
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: put them into type of, oh, God fisher german words
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: come quicker to mean sometimes into a into a shelf
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: or into some type. Of box it's a, newer thing
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: so of course it's gonna AND it's i think. It's
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: healthy there's nothing wrong with. Healthy SKEPTICISM and i do
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: think you're coming either through through the manner of it's.
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: Not heartless there's a thought and there's an intention to what,
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: you're SAYING which. I, respect actually you KNOW what, I mean.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: I, appreciate that, you know AND that's i think, to
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: me That's Where i'm i'm kind of. Leading towards but,
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: you Know that's i'm trying. To remember also, one, Is
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: yeah Jimmy chillcut so he Was, In, conro texas and
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: he was the one who also worked With Doctor jeffrey
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: malndrum to understand that in some Of these he was
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: actually the one to help Jeff Doctor jeffern maldrum understand
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: that there are, germal ridges, you know your fingerprints or in,
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: a cast and not only that there's. Scar tissue so
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: this is, to me, it's like let's look at those
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: instances in. These PRINTS but i would have loved to
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: hear it from someone like A Doctor jeffrey meldrum who
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: had years of, you know some of that education from,
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: you know again the collegiate side. Of things but Then Also,
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: jimmy chilcutt he was he was ACTUALLY a i don't
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: want to say Sometimes, like detarctica.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: It's a, new PHENOMENON and i wouldn't say it's A
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: but i wouldn't even call, it mainstream but more in
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: the purview of this area of what. We, do yeah
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: it's it's relatively, you know, would say one of the last.
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: Ten years so it's going to take time for someone
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: to step to step up and to fill those shoes
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: rather to be organically or whatever that. May be because
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: you're saying it's an organic thing to happen. To HIM
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: so i think we should be like it's like us
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: talking about sasquatching the nineteen nineties. Or something you're. The
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: eighties that's also you KNOW what. I, mean Yeah so
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: i'm open.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: To it somebody reached out to me On The bigfoot
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: archive tell me that they're going to Be. Towards wisconsin let's.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: Go out i'm open, to, it, right, like.
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah it's it's it's a weird it's a. Weird thing.
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: So cool what's what's next? For? You man what Are
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: you you're going to go out and do? Some more
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: we gotta getta what are you doing? A film or
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: you want to keep, researching yeah so kind of all of.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: The. Above Man so i'm working on a third. Children's
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: book this is more a, claymation based so dabbling. In
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: that But then i'm also going to be Doing A
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: canada canada Run where i'm kind of more so camping with, a,
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: purpose right but then actually doing a up run up.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: Up There That's, upper peninsula.
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: So that would Be.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: Towards september but then we're working this is a very,
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: slow burn but working on another a potential Script for.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: SASQUATCH film i love the, horror movies especially love the b,
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: horror movies, so yeah.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: Were great my favorite one Is.
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: The stuff yeah it's, a yeah like that's that's where?
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: IS that i think it's Even on netflix, or something,
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: but yeah this IS it's, i mean speaking of you,
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: HORROR movies i mean there are some really. Good ones
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: So Like demon warp that's Actually a sasquatch one from like,
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: late seventies. Early eighties the Movie called bigfoot that was
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: from nineteen, seventy two you know that Had Like chris
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: mitcham in it and things. Like that so those are,
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: all movies Especially the Legend Of. BODY creek, i mean
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: those are all. Classic movies so love all of, that
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: stuff and so why not try to dabble in that
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: to script own work with the buddy.
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: On that.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: Needless, To say i'm out there in the TRYING to
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: i have the opportunity now to actually get boots on.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: The ground it's. Super, important however if, you can't if your,
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: listeners can't if YOU are i, you know and you
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: just can't seem to get out there as much as,
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: you want. That's great. Guess what there are so many
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: books that you. Can READ and i say books because
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: that takes more time and dedication than some of the
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: things that you can see. On YouTube there's a specific
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: prediction COMPANY that i feel like every week or two
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: weeks they've got this two hour documentary that they, are
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: sharing and, it's like that's, that's cool good, for them
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: and it's. Fun content but also just take a look
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: at some of the portrayal Of the saasquatch that modern
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: day documentaries. Are sharing it's. Very wu it's also very kind,
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: of maniacal like. They're snarling it's it's Not the letters
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: From The, big man which is a great film Where
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: the sasquatch is just sitting on a log and, Just
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: chilling like there are so many of, that that to
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: me is the STORY that i want. TO hear i
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: was very Hopeful That sasquatch sunset was going to go down,
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: that road but that turned out to be a completely crazy,
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: to me almost moniplical take On. A SASQUATCH but i
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: argue with friends. About that, but, YEAH anyway, I. Digress, Tom,
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: sorry no.
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: It's okay what. You're saying you have you have a
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: taste in films on what, you like so, you're, like say,
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: For example i'm the. SAME way i don't really, like
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: horror But if i'm going to watch a, horror movie
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: is coming from, The seventies, oh, yeah yeah you gotta
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: Be text Chanse, On Massacre last house On, The Left.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: The exorcist you know those are just it's not the
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: it's the it's it's like the, whole time and it's
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: so greeny and filthy, and dirty which IS why i
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: also like, the music like it has that, you know
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: you're not hitting such. Clean notes it's, got filthy dirty chords,
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: in IT which. I, love yeah, that's, GREAT man i really.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: Appreciate it one. More time where can people? Find you
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: where can they get? The material where can they reach
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: out to you if they want to have you come
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: on their, Show, man.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely so by, all means reach out to me
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: At The bigfoot archive That's. On instagram you can buy both,
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: My books Billy find Bigfoot And Is it Real? Or
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: not those are Both. On Amazon Billy finds bigfoot is
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: also on hanger. When publishing Check Out monster request if
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: you haven't seen that in, a while. THAT'S done i
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: Check Also Is it Real? Or not that Is at Barnes.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: And noble, but yeah other, than that if you want
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: to buy Some cool bigfoot shirts or Mugs or Harry and,
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: HENDERSON'S mums i don't care that. IT'S copywritten i love.
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: THE character.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: I probably shouldn't say.
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: That, loud no that's.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: Also get Your lawyer TOM that i, GOT you.
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: I Got You Pine.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: Shadow, design anyways it's, all There so. I'm searchable you can.
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: Find. Me man thank you so much for having your
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: publicist or or whatever help reach out. To, me man
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: this has been. WE had i love. THE rapport i
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: love having like just fun, open discussions and you KNOW
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: it's i. Enjoy that, you know we don't. Always agree
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: what's wrong? With that people need to get back. To
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: that you KNOW what, i mean?
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: WHAT happened i need to do A dog man expedition
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: and do a podcast of.
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: It, Happened, Happening bro i'm afraid. Of, them, No no
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: i'm afraid of all, that. STUFF dude, I mean i've had,
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: Poltergeist experiences i've seen The. Hat man so that's the,
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: reason why you KNOW what. I mean so my experiences
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: are real. To me so why wouldn't someone see a
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: wear wolf in? THE woods, I mean i Don't want,
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: I'M good i don't. WANT it i DON'T want i
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: don't want big, for me but it is so therefore.
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  Speaker 3: We are.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: It would be great to circle back after the book
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: is you know What third, books published and after the hit?
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: Me up happy to reach. Back out all, RIGHT man i, Appreciate,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: It kevin thank you for. Coming on thanks to. All
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: right we are the guy we are. Aware of enjoy
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: yourself wherever you are in. The world love. You all