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I'm Alex Ross. The world is a complicated
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opinions, some informed, some inconvenient, and a few that may
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require supporting documentation, history,
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politics, and the absurdity of modern Well, good morning, good
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evening, or good afternoon, wherever you are, whatever you
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do. A lot of things happening in the
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world today, most of them are far beyond our control, you
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might say. So perhaps it's time we took a
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pause and thought about life, thought about the thought
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police, the USS Abraham Lincoln's crew and Tribbles, and
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a controversial thought about Dolly Parton.
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Don't touch that dial. Just try to hear me out for a
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little while. To be clear, I do not drink
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craft beer at all. As far as I'm concerned, IPA
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stands for inexplicably popular awfulness.
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I I, I, I've never understood that stuff.
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I, I don't get people who drink IPA.
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I'm not a huge beer guy. If I drink a beer sacrilege, I
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know of the the beer snobs are going to go and I it's a term of
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endearment. I used to produce two different
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beer shows, so I can say that the beer snobs are going to
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they're going to have a heart attack.
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The only beer I actually would drink, and I don't do it very
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often is Budweiser because it's very dry and I like that.
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I like my wine dry. I don't drink a lot of beer at
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all, maybe 2 a year. The simplicity, though, of the
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IPA, the craft beer scene is, while inexplicably inexplicable
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to me, maybe to you something simple.
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You used to go to a tap room. I got a good friend, an old
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shipmate that loves this stuff. You go to a tap room to quote UN
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quote, unwind. You get a beer, you enjoy it.
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You sniff at it like you know, wine snobs do and yay, right?
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I mean, you, you do whatever it is that the beer does.
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That, however, has changed. You can no longer just go to a
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tap room and go, well, I'm here to enjoy beer and perhaps have a
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a spirited discussion about whether or not our local
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football team is going to be successful this year or whether
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or not the Mariners, by the way, are nose diving, are, are going
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to continue the nose dive. You know, they're only four and
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a half out. Maybe, maybe.
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Yeah, not going to happen. Now, when you go to this local
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tap room, particularly the E9 Brewing Company in Tacoma, which
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is a historic Tacoma Brewer. It's been around for a long
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time. It's part of a group called the
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X Group of restaurants. They own three or four other
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restaurants and now if you go in there, stand by, you have to
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check in with the thought police before you can go in there.
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The Co owners of E9 Brewing Company, men by the name of John
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and Lucas Zitko, and I'm assuming I'm pronouncing that
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right. It's XITCO.
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So Zitko, it's another English language thing.
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I don't know why X is pronounced Z, but it is.
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These two people made individual personal contributions in the
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amount of $1000 and in the amount of $250 to a pack here in
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Washington political action committee called Let's Go
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Washington. The purpose of Let's Go
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Washington is to raise signatures and advocate on
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behalf of three ballot initiatives that are now on our
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ballot for November. These ballot initiatives, only
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two of them that you actually care about, number one is to
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repeal the unconstitutional and frankly stupid income tax that
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the Democrats continue to claim is only on the Rothy because
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they haven't read it. And by the way, there's a there
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is a section of that bill that if you read it closely will tell
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you very clearly that the purpose is to go after savings
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accounts and retirement accounts as well tax those.
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That's story for another day. Anyway, one of these, one of
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these initiatives is to repeal that.
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The second initiative is to make it the law in the state of
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Washington that men, boys cannot participate in female sports.
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Now, this has some wide-ranging applications.
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It's primarily focused, of course, at high schools, but it
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would be interesting to see what would happen to the Seattle
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Storm if that were to pass. At any rate, the the problem is
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that these two gentlemen made contributions in the amount of
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$1250 to Let's Go Washington the pack.
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And they were very specific about what their donations were
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to be used for, which was to buy supplies to get signatures to
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stop the income tax initiative. They weren't involved with
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anything is very clearly says on their thing.
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We oppose the income tax. You can use this money to buy
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supplies to get signatures for that.
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The problem of course is that the Democrats socialists of
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America have an activist who apparently has way more free
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time than I do because he decided to go through the public
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disclosure records. Now what actually happened was
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he wants credit for sitting down and researching all this stuff
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and going through everything. That's not what happened.
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What happened was he loaded it into AI and AI revealed,
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reviewed it for him and spit out what he what he wanted, which
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was a list of conservative businesses, conservative owned
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businesses, or at least not Democrat socialist owned
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businesses that made donations to said people.
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And that's what he wanted and that's what he got.
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So in the process of this, he decided then that this this
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activist decided that he was going to release this publicly,
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which of course he did. And immediately we had a major
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threat to civil discourse. The idea of a private citizen
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exercising their First Amendment rights to petition the
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government to face coordinated boycotts in response is going to
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have a chilling effect on this. Local spots in Tacoma, which I
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don't frequent, but restaurants that you won't know, but I'll
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throw them out there anyway. Corbo's, Dusty's Highway, and a
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Dickey's BBQ pit. I I'm surprised to find that
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there is a Dickey's still in business.
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Most of them have long since gone out of business up here for
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a couple of reasons. One they were ridiculously
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expensive and B not that great. Anyway, one of the restaurants
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issued an on air statement that said that they are declaring
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themselves as an anti fascist restaurant and they dropped all
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their business with the E9 brewery because of trans issues
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and because they quote believe in a progressive tax system
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that's not merely about social policy.
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Opposing estate tax has now been treated as an unforgivable sin
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by activist peer groups who are now going to boycott a business.
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I'm not big on boycotts. I've told you this from from the
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beginning. I, I personally, I don't
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participate in boycotts. One of the biggest ones of
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course. I, I get this all the time from
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people is we game? Why do you buy Starbucks?
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You know Starbucks hates everything you stand for.
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Yeah, I know. I, I, I, I know that.
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I get that. The the difficulty is that I'm
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married to a woman who loves Starbucks and can't function
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until she's had her Vente iced sugar free vanilla latte, which
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is neither coffee nor nor drinkable in my opinion.
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I don't like sugar free sweeteners.
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They're they taste terrible. But she can't function until
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she's had that. Now my question to you has
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always been very simply, happy wife, happy life.
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Or your ridiculous boycott against a billion dollar company
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that's not going away, at least not from Nashville anyway,
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They're leaving here. The E9 Pro owners provided their
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screenshots and their receipts. The contribution occurred in
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June of this year and was explicitly earmarked to buy
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signature sheets to repeal the the the millionaire's tax.
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The initiative I 6:45 not that you care, but the social
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initiatives activists instead pinned that on everything.
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They decided, well, no, you can't you, you can't do that.
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This organizer, a guy by the name of Zev Cook, was given the
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evidence he was shown. Hey, look, they very
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specifically said this has nothing to do with trans issues.
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This has nothing to do with L GB TQSIABC issues.
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This has to do with taxes. And his response was dismissive.
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He admitted that even if the money was purely about taxes,
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quote, it doesn't really land. UN quote refused to further
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engage in any conversation. He was simply on the attack.
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Facts don't matter to the mob. Nuance is a race to build an all
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or nothing political binary where fiscal conservatism is
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reflexively rebranded as malice. Think about what that means.
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If I give money to a political 'cause that, that reflects my
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beliefs. And Democrat activists with more
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free time than than anybody else in the world load this into AI
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and decide, oh, look, Dave gave $25 to, you know, repeal the
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repeal the state animal. I don't know.
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See, I don't give money to politicians or political causes.
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The problem with giving money to politicians is it only
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encourages them, and that's what I don't want to do.
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I do not want to encourage politicians.
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My position is no, no, I'm not giving you any money.
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Number one, I don't have enough money to give you that would
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matter and #2 the people who do have enough money to matter are
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only giving it to you because you give them a tax write off
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for doing it and then you turn around and pass legislation that
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favors them get get the money out anyway.
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Zitko wrote a public response rating a statement that
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apologized. Apologized for the impact.
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His words, not mine. And pledged $10,000 to local
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LGBTQ plus youth and community centers to calm the water I
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guess. So the idea here is we gave
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$1200 to try to repeal the income tax and all that did was
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upset people cost U.S. business. So now we're going to give
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$10,000, presumably out of our profits to LGBTQ youth centers.
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It's an impossible position. Business owner trying to protect
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his employees because he employs people.
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If this closes, where do those people go?
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In case you haven't noticed, and maybe you haven't, maybe you
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have, I don't know, The economy not that great right now.
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And craft beer is one of those things that is considered
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something of a luxury item. And it's multiple breweries up
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here have closed because people aren't drinking that crap
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anymore. I don't know why I I assume it's
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not because it's crap. I assume it's because they can't
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afford it anymore. But you're trying to protect
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your employees from harassment. But the critique precedent has
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been set. There's a simple lesson here,
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folks. Feeding the crocodile never
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stops you from being eaten if you want to.
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All you're doing here is is validating a premise of bad
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faith. Oh, I've accused you of
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something and it's just a shakedown operation.
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You gave $1200 to that. Now you got to give $10,000 to
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our cause, because otherwise we're going to boycott you.
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And the reality is that 99% of the people sitting there
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drinking that beer don't give a shit.
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They just don't. Washington's initiative system
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exists precisely so we voters can provide a check on an
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overreaching legislature, so we can petition our government for
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redress. If donating to collect
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signatures is treated now as an act of hate, the democratic
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process its entire self is under attack.
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And isn't this what they kept telling us they want?
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They want a democratic process, but then they turn around and
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attack it. A call to push back against
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ideological purity tests in commercial sphere is necessary
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here. If you believe in a pluralistic
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society, you don't demand loyalty else from your butcher,
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your Baker, Oregon, your Brewer. I guess you might demand it from
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your your coffee place, depending on you know, if you
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really want to or not. But you don't demand it from
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there because the problem here is is right at the core of the
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problem. There used to be an unwritten
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civic pact in this country. We don't police each other's
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private convictions at the cash register.
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That's not where you do that. I get so tired of people who go
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to places and start yelling at the at the at the person at the
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counter about something. Sorry, this is a Wendy's.
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You know, these guys ran their shop, they poured a pint.
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They treated the person across the counter with decency.
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They never said you can't buy our beer unless you oppose the
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tax. They never said that whatever
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ballot measures they supported or you support when you walk
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into the voting booth was supposed to be strictly between
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you and your conscience and the ballot box.
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But now what we have here is a totalitarian mindset.
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The personal has become political, and therefore nothing
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is private anymore. We're worried about flock
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cameras, we're worried about Google.
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We're worried about all that stuff.
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When in reality, the real problem is activists, Democrats,
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socialist activists who are treating every state's public
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disclosure like opposition research.
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They're using that to hunt down business owners.
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And if those businesses aren't practicing what they want, well,
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there you go. How about if they're surveilling
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you because you're not doing what they want you to do?
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It's the complete death of mind, your own business.
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And under this new standard, you aren't allowed to have a private
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thought. You're not allowed to write a
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personal check to petition your own government without answering
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it to a self appointed moral tribunal.
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An everyday commercial race, Commercial relationships.
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A restaurant buying kegs from a regional Brewer is no longer
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governed by quality, price or mutual respect, but by
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ideological compliance. And we've even abandoned basic
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manners. When the brewery owners reached
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out to explain their situation human to human, the activists
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publicly bragged that it wasn't even worth their time to engage.
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It doesn't really land. We don't care.
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It replaces courtesy, common courtesy, with ideological
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arrogance. It tells everyone in the
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community that unless you marched in lockstep with their
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activist class, your livelihood is fair game.
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That's not just rude, it's poisonous.
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In other words, these activists want to be the Gestapo, the
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Stasi, the KGB, the Ministry of State Security, all rolled up
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into one a new, terrifying version of the Thought Police.
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So tell me again, who are the fascists?
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As you know I love Star Trek the original series.
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I'm not a fan of the the follow on.
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I can tolerate the Next Generation and I started getting
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into Deep Space 9. But beyond that, I'm problem
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with The Next Generation is that it was like they were trying to
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just redo the original show with new characters and it didn't
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work because it lacked what it really needed.
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Anyway, as you know, I love Star Trek.
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I was sitting here yesterday, the news report came across from
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Thailand and a conversation with Bill.
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We're texting Bill and Rod and what did they say something to
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the effect of I've seen this script before, where do they say
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that? I got to I now I got to find the
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stupid text. It was sounds oddly familiar.
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So what happened in Thailand was basically shore leave occurred.
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And I said, huh, Somebody probably called the Abe Lincoln
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a garbage scowl. And then I then I added to that.
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You're right. They meant that it shouldn't be
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hauling garbage. It should be hauled away as
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garbage. And if you've seen the pictures
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of it, you know that the leftists are having a hell of a
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time criticizing how the Abraham Lincoln looks after nearly 300
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days at sea because they've never been there.
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I guess I don't know. At any rate, a brouhaha ensued.
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I'm sure that's not what happened.
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I'm sure it had to do with somebody discovered that that
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pretty girl on the street was probably a lady boy.
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Anyway, at approximately 1:30 in the morning Thursday, a Thai
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citizen reported 2 American service members fighting outside
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a bar near Pattaya's Walking Street.
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The police Superintendent guy, whose name I'm not even going to
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try to pronounce, Colonel Enec something, something described
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the incident as quote, minor. The person who called the police
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had had reportedly feared that the the the fight might
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escalate. Thai police and members of the
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Navy Shore Shore Patrol were were called.
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They took the two Americans to a joint operation centers near the
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Hard Rock Cafe. I didn't know that was still
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around. Subsequently, they were returned
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to the Abraham Lincoln. That's pretty much it.
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Thai authorities say Navy officials later confirmed that
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both service members had been restricted to the ship for the
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remainder of the port visit. Great.
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Now I got time to catch up on my technical journals.
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Neither service member, by the way, was arrested.
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The police did explain that a Thai police would arrest an
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American citizen, American service member if a Thai citizen
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had been involved or if the Thai law had been violated.
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And according to the Thai police, this is the only known
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incident of this happening. However, comma if you read the
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the news reports. And this one, of course, comes
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from I can't even see it. It's it's early in the morning,
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folks, and my eyes are really weak.
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I'm sorry. It's just the way it is.
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Who'd this come from? MSN Now, Ms. Now is where I got
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this story. I don't really know why I pulled
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it from there, but I did. So the story, of course, is
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headline drunken brawl. Drunken brawl sends sailors back
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to USS Abraham Lincoln. I don't know, man, what it
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would. What did we expect to happen?
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The crew before they went on liberty was given instructions
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they couldn't There's prohibited locations.
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There's, you know, avoid prostitution, marijuana, of
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course, drugs, other misconduct. And this entire story for Ms.
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now requires a an anonymous source because what I don't know
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the police have established additional patrols and stuff
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like that's going on standard stuff folks.
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I mean, you're you're deal dealing with sailors.
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I mean, not saying I've done anything like this.
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What I'm saying to you is my 21st birthday party happened the
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night we pulled in, the night we pulled into Pearl Harbor in
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1984. And it was intriguing to me
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because number one, it was the first time in my life I've ever
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drunk. But number two, it was weird.
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I remember looking back at it now, I was weird how how things
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that normally would have just been blown off became fighting
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words. I guess I don't know.
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And it was weird how quickly the fighting groups shifted.
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So at one point in the evening, and I'm not saying anything
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about it, I'm just saying at one point the nukes were on one end
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of the building, 1 end of the room and we coners were on the
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other end and it was between US and then someone said something
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about our ship and then it became US against them.
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And I remember this, I wrote a whole piece back then of called
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Us and Them, and it was about how that shifts so quickly
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because, well, things happen and you know, sometimes it wins,
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sometimes you lose, sometimes you just have a little treble.
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You can text or call the show today, 209565 Dave, that's
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209-565-3283. Welcome back.
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It's me, Dave to Friday. So the wife and I were driving
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the other day, probably the Starbucks, I don't really
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remember, and we got in a discussion about Dolly Parton
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and my wife did not know that the song, the song is called
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Hang on, I'm looking at it here. The song is called I will Always
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love you. She did not know that that song
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was a a Dolly Parton song. She thought it was a Whitney
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Houston song, but #2 she didn't know that it had been featured
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prominently in the in the 1982 film Best Little Whorehouse in
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Texas, which if you have never seen I, I suggest you see it.
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Best Little Whorehouse in Texas is a it's one of the best
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adaptations of a stage play to a film, particularly a musical
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you'll ever see. Yes, it's mature content.
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It's a story of the Chicken Ranch, a whore house in Texas.
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And it's it's a political story because you've got this TV
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preacher who's pretending to be moral, the morality police, and
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he's going to shut it down. Played by Dom Deluise, by the
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way. And Dolly Parton plays the the
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Madam Burt Reynolds is the sheriff who is in that county.
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And he's not only is he responsible for the fact that
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the Chicken Ranch is open, not shut down, but he's also in love
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with Dolly Parton's character. They're in love with each other.
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They can't get married because he has political aspirations.
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And that would be used against him because he was married to a
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prostitute. And anyway, so I think it's a
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very good movie. It's well done it it's not, you
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know, it's not a cinematic masterpiece.
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You're not going to walk out of there going wow, I was so moved.
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But you will have a good time. And that's what movies are
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supposed to do. Consequently, it's one of those
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movies that I love. Charles during who has
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unfortunately passed on now as well, plays the governor and
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does one of the I always said that if I ever got a chance to
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play a character in the best of the whorehouse in Texas in a in
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a play, that's the role I want. I want to be the governor.
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His, his, his number, his one number is just awesome.
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It's really good. But there is a there is a line
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in one of the early songs in that film that caused a problem.
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Anyway, back to I will Always Love you.
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The song is featured prominently, of course.
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Dolly wrote that in 1969, as I recall, when she broke up with
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her first serious boyfriend, I guess, and it never really took
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off for her. It it kind of became popular in
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Best Little Whorehouse in Texas, although there were other songs
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that became a bigger hit, hard Candy Christmases in there.
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But it isn't, of course, until Whitney Houston does it in the
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Bodyguard that it becomes, you know, a big a big hit.
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So at any rate, and Dolly Parton is one of those gracious people
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who who didn't she was never jealous of Whitney Houston.
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She was happy. I mean, why wouldn't she be?
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I mean, look at the royalties she's going to get on that song.
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But the point is that the song is in this movie, but it also
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has other songs in it. And one of the early songs is
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when Miss Mona, Dolly Parton is explaining to her girls the
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rules of of how you work for her.
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And there's this long song. It's about little pissant
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country place and and she's listening all these rules about
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don't be on the television or telephone.
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Don't chew gum. Don't you know, do this?
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Don't do that. And there this comes this line
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in here. You ready for this?
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Please don't show us no tattoos, no hearts and flowers on your
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thighs. It's downright tacky, she says.
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And I love the way she says it's downright tacky.
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Brands belong on cattle, and that ain't what we're selling at
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Miss Mona. You catch my drift?
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I don't know why that line sticks with me.
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Brands belong on cattle and that ain't what we're selling at Miss
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Mona's. And I've you know what?
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This was 1982 right at the edge of when tattoos were starting to
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become a thing. And I've, I've told you before,
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I am not a tattoo guy. I women, you can send me the
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emails if you want at you know, Dave at the Dave bowmanshow.com.
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I don't care. You can text me two O 9565 Dave,
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whatever you want to do. But what I'm telling you is I
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have never in my life seen a woman and said to myself, you
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know what? She's a, you know, she's a 7.
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But if she just had some flowers on her thighs, tattooed on her
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thighs or on her back or whatever, she'd be a 10.
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That's never happened. Brands belong on cattle.
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And I don't know what you're trying to sell me.
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So can we stop this tattoo thing?
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Have we, have we reached the end of that yet?
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I hope that's social thing. Probably not, but there you go.
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Well, that's all I got time for today.
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Happy Labor Day, everybody. We will not be here on Monday.
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I will see you on Tuesday for Dave does history with Bill Mick
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live. Have a great weekend everybody.
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Stay safe.