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The mystery of Molly Bish: A mother never gives up searching for answers · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace on Serious x M Triumph Channel one thirty
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Speaker 1: two to the man who took Molly Dish, Does June
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Speaker 1: anything to you? It's been seventeen years since Molly Bish vanished.
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Speaker 1: Her remains were found on the Central Massachusetts mountain side
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Speaker 1: three years later. The case remains unsolved. It's an open investigation.
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Speaker 1: We're constantly getting tips and leads on it. Initially, Molly's
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Speaker 1: disappearance wasn't thought to be an abduction. There is ranged
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Speaker 1: from Molly running away to being somewhere with her friends.
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Speaker 1: I don't feel like she would run away and she
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Speaker 1: was gone hiding out. I didn't have that feeling. There's
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Speaker 1: pieces out there that we just need to fit together
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Speaker 1: that's going to allow us to move forward with the investigation.
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Speaker 1: Does June mean anything to you? Does June twenty seven,
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Speaker 1: two thousand mean anything to you? It does to me.
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Speaker 1: That is the year that we have all been looking
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Speaker 1: for Molly Bush m June thousand. Every time June rolls around,
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Speaker 1: I think about Molly Bush, and almost every day in between.
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Speaker 1: Why what happened to a beautiful, beautiful young girl Molly
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Speaker 1: Bish Joining me right right now is a special guest,
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Speaker 1: Maggie Bush and her daughter Heather. I Nancy Grace, this
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Speaker 1: is Crime Stories to thank you for being with us. Maggie.
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Speaker 1: I can't tell you what it means to me to
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Speaker 1: get to speak to you again and to meet your
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Speaker 1: beautiful daughter Heather. Just you know, it's funny. It's funny
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Speaker 1: how you never think. I would never when I was little,
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Speaker 1: I would never have thought, Wow, some the greatest people
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Speaker 1: ever made in my life are going to be crime victims.
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Speaker 1: You know, you don't think about that when you're planning
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Speaker 1: your future. There's some kind of a bond between violent
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Speaker 1: crime victims that I can't really explain it. But I'll start,
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Speaker 1: Maggie with telling you. I don't know if you know
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Speaker 1: how many prayers go up every day about you and
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Speaker 1: Molly and your family. I'll just start with that and
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Speaker 1: then to you. It was molly eighth day at a
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Speaker 1: brand new job as a lifeguard. She was just sixteen.
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Speaker 1: It's a hot summer day. Do you remember that day, Maggie, Oh,
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Speaker 1: how I do? Um Again, we had just gotten out
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Speaker 1: of school. I'm a school teacher, and UH had cleaned
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Speaker 1: your room and I had I actually was special that teacher,
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Speaker 1: and I had some some U I e. Piece some
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Speaker 1: work to complete, and so we were all kind of
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Speaker 1: buzzing a little bit. You know. Molly had a new job,
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Speaker 1: my son had just trained her, and um, I had
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Speaker 1: taken her to work the day before, and it was
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Speaker 1: kind of a little unsettling. We had seen a car
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Speaker 1: that day parked in the parking lot and there was
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Speaker 1: only one white vehicle, and Molly got out and she
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Speaker 1: was very excited and said, I, Mom, I love you,
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Speaker 1: see you later, you know. When just she had to
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Speaker 1: get some supplies ready and go down to the beach.
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Speaker 1: It was the first week of the swimming lessons for
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Speaker 1: the town kids. So we live in a very small community,
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Speaker 1: only four thousand folks, one traffic light, beautiful town in
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Speaker 1: the central Massachusetts. Well, Molly went off and I see
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Speaker 1: this vehicle on this man and he ends up kind
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Speaker 1: of staring at me, and I get kind of unnerved,
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Speaker 1: and I said, I can't leave Molly here. What is
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Speaker 1: this guy doing here? So I head to the beach
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Speaker 1: and meet her and we sit and it is a
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Speaker 1: very lovely little place and it's kind of again it's
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Speaker 1: down a main street, but it's also kind of isolated,
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Speaker 1: and um. We sit, we talked and I really we
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Speaker 1: haven't talked a whole lot about danger, but we talked
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Speaker 1: about you know, I said, I noticed there's more men
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Speaker 1: around maybe and she did spots just fisherman. Mom, not
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Speaker 1: concerned at all. I talked about how nice the beaches,
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Speaker 1: and then I said, I got to get back and
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Speaker 1: do my reports. So like to the car and this
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Speaker 1: individual is still there. I am so kind of awestruck,
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Speaker 1: like what is he doing? He's just sitting there smoking
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Speaker 1: a cigarette. There's nothing to view, it's goods. And I
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Speaker 1: get into my car and I'm looking. I had not
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Speaker 1: even taken my purse before, so when I go in,
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Speaker 1: I'm pretending I'm getting something, and prior to that, I'm
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Speaker 1: walking and he stares at me. And I have to
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Speaker 1: tell you, it's like a mother bear. You just want
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Speaker 1: to protect your child. You just said, what are you
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Speaker 1: doing here? Go go to work at ten o'clock in
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Speaker 1: the morning, and and that just got me so unnerved.
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Speaker 1: So when I went to the car to get my purse,
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Speaker 1: he pulled out so fast that I didn't even think.
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Speaker 1: I just got relieved. It was one of those immediate
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Speaker 1: gut feelings. I just was uncomfortable. And that white car
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Speaker 1: still to this day, we've never found We never found
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Speaker 1: the individual who was driving it. Our case remains unsolved.
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Speaker 1: And um Anyway, the next day happened, took Molly to
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Speaker 1: work the same talked to her that night about being safe,
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Speaker 1: even offered her a little Kubaton stick, which my husband
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Speaker 1: had as a probation officer. She said, Mom, I don't
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Speaker 1: need it. It's just fisherman. Don't worry. And that next morning,
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Speaker 1: after I drove her the work, there wasn't a single
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Speaker 1: car in the parking lot. She said, goodbye, Mom, I
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Speaker 1: love you. Our routine kind of farewell, and that was
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Speaker 1: the last time I ever heard my Molly. And I
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Speaker 1: would have never, ever, in my wildest dreams or sadness,
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Speaker 1: has imagined that three hours later I would get a
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Speaker 1: phone call from this assistant chief of police that Molly
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Speaker 1: had not been at the pond all morning. Her things
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Speaker 1: were left on the beach, an open first aid kit um,
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Speaker 1: the police radio, her shoes, and her backpack all remained
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Speaker 1: on the beach, and nobody knew where she was at
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Speaker 1: that point. It just was an unusual event for us.
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Speaker 1: Molly was very conscientious, very kind of nervous. It's a
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Speaker 1: new job. They told me she probably went with friends.
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Speaker 1: I didn't. It didn't make sense. She left her shoes,
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Speaker 1: she left her back back but she left the job
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Speaker 1: at ten o'clock when she just was starting. It just
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Speaker 1: it makes sense at all. So I called my daughter, Heather,
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Speaker 1: and Heather said she would meet me at the beach
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Speaker 1: and I immediately got in my car. I went to
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Speaker 1: the beach and I went, I'm still in disbelief, and
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Speaker 1: I'm calling her and screaming her name on the beach, Molly, Molly,
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Speaker 1: and people were coming. There was no Molly, and people
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Speaker 1: had said that she hadn't been there. There had been
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Speaker 1: the lifeguard all day, and I knew I dropped her off.
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Speaker 1: I've seen her things, so I was very, very frightened.
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Speaker 1: For me. The first gut re action was something that
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Speaker 1: is really wrong here. I started to go towards um
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Speaker 1: the police station. There comes Heather with our new row
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Speaker 1: granddaughter and we go into the police station and I say,
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Speaker 1: something's very wrong. I need this chief, the assistant chief,
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Speaker 1: because he called me and my husband, and because he
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Speaker 1: was a probation in the local area at the local court,
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Speaker 1: I said call him. That's how upset I was already.
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Speaker 1: I knew in my heart that this was not how
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Speaker 1: Molly operated. And they told us to go in a
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Speaker 1: little room. It was two young officers and they figured
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Speaker 1: out that, oh, she just went with friends. They weren't concerned.
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Speaker 1: And that's when Heather and I well that that they
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Speaker 1: told you to go in the room and I took
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Speaker 1: off looking from all my friends. So I went from
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Speaker 1: there and then I went also to look for her
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Speaker 1: other friend in the next town that was a good friend,
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Speaker 1: and she was accounted for, and then I got my
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Speaker 1: son returned to we returned to the beach, and when
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Speaker 1: we got to the beach, we were aghast. I mean,
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Speaker 1: people in a small town heard there's Molly was not
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Speaker 1: at the beach. It was on the scanners and there
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Speaker 1: were people starting to come. And Molly's friend's father was
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Speaker 1: ahead of the fire department and nobody I think this
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Speaker 1: was the hard partner after nobody knew. Everybody felt something,
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Speaker 1: but they didn't know what to do. And I really
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Speaker 1: didn't see the priest. As I got there, it was
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Speaker 1: the fireman had actually entered the pond thinking Molly drowned swimming,
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Speaker 1: and that was very frightful. They had those special dogs
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Speaker 1: to determine if there was a body. I mean, it
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Speaker 1: was like you are now really in a surreal, unbelievable
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Speaker 1: place that you've never been, and it's heartbreaking because you
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Speaker 1: don't know where your daughter is. Nobody knows where she is,
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Speaker 1: and you're just watching this this show progressed and it
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Speaker 1: was scary and sad, and you were what she's thinking.
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Speaker 1: You don't know what. Now that you have children, I
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Speaker 1: know you can imagine how hard what would your child do?
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Speaker 1: And you know each child has their own personality. Molly
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Speaker 1: was funny and silly, and but she was also very
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Speaker 1: shy and if someone would hurt her, but she would
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Speaker 1: also trust somebody because she was a good kid and
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Speaker 1: she had no reason not to. You know, if they
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Speaker 1: dressed like a police officer, or they dressed and some
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Speaker 1: you know, um authoritative, she would go. And that's how
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Speaker 1: I know that we we looked there was no nobody
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Speaker 1: had Molly, and we had everybody that she was, you know,
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Speaker 1: friends with, accounted for. And that was really the beginning
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Speaker 1: to be a friend. With me is Maggie Bish. This
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Speaker 1: is Molly Bish's mother. Molly goes missing one warm June morning,
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Speaker 1: two thousand The search still on from Molly's killer. And
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Speaker 1: when I hear you talking, I can't help it. It
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Speaker 1: takes me straight back to when my fiance was murdered,
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Speaker 1: and there's that feeling you. I felt like a wild animal.
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Speaker 1: This is the only way I can describe it. I
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Speaker 1: felt like a wild animal that couldn't form words. I
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Speaker 1: wanted to break the window with my bare hands, and
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Speaker 1: just how I didn't even know words to say. And
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking I remember one night, right before I was
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Speaker 1: supposed to go on the air, my long time makeup
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Speaker 1: artist she's on was with me and she got a call.
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Speaker 1: She had her hands in my in my hair at
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Speaker 1: the moment, and put it on the speaker and her
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Speaker 1: son was missing. Arlington was missing, and everything just went berserk.
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Speaker 1: And I mean, I've covered all these cases. I know
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Speaker 1: what to do, I know who to call, but when
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Speaker 1: it happens to you, it's a whole another can of worms.
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Speaker 1: And her story. He was found, thank goodness. And I'm
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Speaker 1: just thinking about you at that at that pond and
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Speaker 1: they're looking in the water and you see the first
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Speaker 1: aid kid and you see her shoes and everything's there,
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Speaker 1: everything's right, everything is present. But Molly, when did you
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Speaker 1: find out what happened to Molly? Well, you know, this
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Speaker 1: was a whole new world for us. Nancy, nobody knows
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Speaker 1: how to do it. And I have to honestly say
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Speaker 1: to any listeners that there's no right way or wrongly.
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Speaker 1: We have learned what is best practices for law enforcement
15:51
Speaker 1: because we live in a small town. This happens often
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Speaker 1: in our cities. People need a plan. There was no
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Speaker 1: plan that day. That's what was most frightening. I don't
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Speaker 1: I think everybody wanted to help, but nobody knew what
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Speaker 1: to do. And so like we had the firemen in there,
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Speaker 1: but they had actually uh contaminated this crime scene because
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Speaker 1: nobody really knew it was a crime. They had come
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Speaker 1: in with the dogs, people were there. I mean, it
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Speaker 1: was just confusing. Um. By the end of that night,
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Speaker 1: the state police came in and they overtook the case.
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Speaker 1: But even in fairness, the state police do a lot
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Speaker 1: of work with drugs and and they really didn't have
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Speaker 1: a plan at first either. I think it was just
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Speaker 1: you know, find out we found out about Molley. No,
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Speaker 1: we didn't believe there's a chance and at all that
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Speaker 1: she had just left with friends. We didn't think she
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Speaker 1: would not call us. I mean when we had to
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Speaker 1: drive home, we were beside ourselves. How do you go
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Speaker 1: home if you don't know if your child has food
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Speaker 1: or is safe, or as being harmed or held. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I think all truth, that was one of the most horrible, exhausting,
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Speaker 1: frightening days. And then what we learned again, police helped us.
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Speaker 1: You know, they were trying to do what they could do.
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Speaker 1: And UM, to me, I think we did get involved finally. Um,
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Speaker 1: we were on America's Most Wanted. And then the press
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Speaker 1: came in. Our police had asked us not to do
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Speaker 1: any We did not talk. We are isolated for two weeks.
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Speaker 1: All I could imagine this parents begging people to help
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Speaker 1: them with their kids. And I didn't understand that. And
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Speaker 1: then once I started to open up and speak to
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Speaker 1: the press and and to the TV people, we had
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Speaker 1: we had to get home. We had to get molley
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Speaker 1: story out there, and that that really became our burden.
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Speaker 1: We didn't do it. Nobody would really know. I think
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Speaker 1: people would just thought, oh, sure she came home. But
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Speaker 1: we did five hundred days, we did one thousand days.
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Speaker 1: We did her birthday. We had over three hundred people
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Speaker 1: that first year at her birthday. UM, we started a foundation.
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Speaker 1: We just we didn't know what to do. But even
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Speaker 1: in our small town, they had said that people said
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Speaker 1: this person could be from in the area. While that
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Speaker 1: frightened more people, and so I was on the local
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Speaker 1: school committee. So we went forward and we said we'd
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Speaker 1: like to present um A a safety program. So we
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Speaker 1: got very involved with trying to help children. We learned
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Speaker 1: by the way that they needed a good picture and
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Speaker 1: they needed a book, a safety book, an I D
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Speaker 1: So we we created our own that we thought was
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Speaker 1: small enough that dad could carry it even and they
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Speaker 1: had everything and it's your picture, your fingerprints. We wanted
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Speaker 1: to find that job before they were you know, we
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Speaker 1: didn't want a DNA get to to find them past.
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Speaker 1: We wanted to find them beforehand. So that became our
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Speaker 1: our tool to help others. We developed a Molly Bitch
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Speaker 1: Foundation and we went all over Massachusetts. We we actually,
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Speaker 1: I believe what was far beyond thirty five thousand that
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Speaker 1: we had done in our time. But we we are
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Speaker 1: always looking for Molly and trying to put on events.
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Speaker 1: And I started the first Missing Children's Day in Massachusetts
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Speaker 1: in our Boston State House, getting the families together, trying
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Speaker 1: to connect with one another, because there is like you said,
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Speaker 1: a unique bond, an unusual sadness, fear, you know, the unknown.
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Speaker 1: So that became one important day that we would come together.
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Speaker 1: But it also gave people. It made the legislatives aware
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Speaker 1: of our plight, what laws weren't being held that were
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Speaker 1: good or bad, and we could change that. We actually
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Speaker 1: helped with Senator Kennedy to bring in the Amber Alert
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Speaker 1: here to Massachusetts. We worked on the child safety law
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Speaker 1: with many good people that I know, you know, and anyway,
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Speaker 1: we got involved with the National Center. They helped work
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Speaker 1: on our case, but it took three long years before
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Speaker 1: we knew anything, and they were hard and it was
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Speaker 1: really tough for our whole family, and families suffer, you know.
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Speaker 1: We used to have um fragile Fridays. If we made
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Speaker 1: it another week, you know, how are we doing? Checking
20:17
Speaker 1: in with each other? It was tough. We didn't have
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Speaker 1: small children my children. My son was just in this
20:24
Speaker 1: first year of college and Heather was just had her
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Speaker 1: first child. So we were a little older, which in
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Speaker 1: some ways is easier but still very difficult because every
20:33
Speaker 1: age has its own difficult acceptance and a sibling. You're
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Speaker 1: so right about that, and there are so many phases
20:43
Speaker 1: you go through one when you suffer a loss. My
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Speaker 1: father passed away about a year and a half ago,
20:53
Speaker 1: and I'm still amiss. He and I were. I guess
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Speaker 1: so eights were just. I mean, I love my mother.
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Speaker 1: I'm extremely close to her. I've always talked to her
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Speaker 1: more I guess I did my dad, But he and
21:09
Speaker 1: I were just two peas in a pod, and you
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Speaker 1: go through It hurts me too much to remember what
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Speaker 1: I went through when Keith was murdered. But the thing
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Speaker 1: that that that phases you go through when you lose somebody.
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Speaker 1: But I guess I don't know what I'll have to
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Speaker 1: ask you because I knew almost immediately who murdered Keith
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Speaker 1: and what had happened to him. But it was two
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Speaker 1: thousand and three, almost to the days ju nine, two
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Speaker 1: thousand and three, before you knew what had happened to Molly.
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Speaker 1: Do you remember that day? Well, you know it is.
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Speaker 1: I can tell you it's awful. My We actually we
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Speaker 1: had did the Missing Children's Day May at the end
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Speaker 1: of May, and we had come home and John had
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Speaker 1: gotten the call, my husband, and he said, we have
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Speaker 1: to get home. And usually I'm saying thank you to
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Speaker 1: all the people we have two bust loads of people
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Speaker 1: that we take with us to Boston, and so I'm
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Speaker 1: very grateful. We put flowers. We could forget me not
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Speaker 1: you don't go out there. We do a big, beautiful program.
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Speaker 1: So we were coming home with all this stuff and
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Speaker 1: John is saying, get home, we're going, We're going, and
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Speaker 1: he was pushing me. I was getting a little agitated.
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Speaker 1: But what happened is one of the news reporters came
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Speaker 1: to our house and they had the pictures because somebody
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Speaker 1: did not believe a while. How it went is there
22:43
Speaker 1: was a hunter that had spotted something that he wasn't
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Speaker 1: familiar with, but he mentioned it to this um person
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Speaker 1: who used to be a police officer, and so they
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Speaker 1: went and they were kind of on their own doing this.
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Speaker 1: And then I guess this. This police officer didn't believe
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Speaker 1: that the um. You know, he's afraid the police would
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Speaker 1: take credit for his fine, I guess, And so he
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Speaker 1: wanted some of the take pictures and he called them
23:09
Speaker 1: the press, and the press did it, and so guess
23:12
Speaker 1: what they do. They show it to us before the
23:14
Speaker 1: police even called us and told us anything. So I'm
23:18
Speaker 1: in my driveway and you know how in the press car.
23:20
Speaker 1: Like the vans, they have all the TVs. There's Molly's. Yeah,
23:25
Speaker 1: this is how Molly's. I've seen her bathing suit in
23:28
Speaker 1: the rust in the leaves, the old leaves, and John
23:33
Speaker 1: didn't remember, you know, my husband, he you know, it's
23:36
Speaker 1: so funny. I actually went out with her to buy
23:38
Speaker 1: this special bathing suit because they didn't have the colored ones.
23:41
Speaker 1: The recreational person was going to order them. So I
23:45
Speaker 1: knew exactly what it was. It was a blue one,
23:47
Speaker 1: but it was a special one, and I knew right
23:51
Speaker 1: then and there. My knees almost crumbled and I ran
23:54
Speaker 1: up the stairs and to our home. And I mean
23:58
Speaker 1: there was three days that I could say. And when
24:00
Speaker 1: we're talking earlier, you do it's like a primal cry.
24:04
Speaker 1: It's it's from the depth of your soul. I knew,
24:07
Speaker 1: and I didn't want it, you know, you want to
24:10
Speaker 1: find Molly, but it wasn't the way we had hoped,
24:13
Speaker 1: you know, and my I mean I cried and it just, um,
24:19
Speaker 1: that was one of the worst I have to say days.
24:21
Speaker 1: And I hollered and I every piece of me was
24:28
Speaker 1: spent and that you say it was a special swimsuit
24:36
Speaker 1: that in the moment you saw, you knew what it was. Um.
24:40
Speaker 1: You know What's what's interesting, Maggie, as I remember that
24:46
Speaker 1: the morning that Keith l after he had been visiting
24:49
Speaker 1: our home. My family, me and my mom and dad
24:51
Speaker 1: were home. My sister was already off in grad school
24:55
Speaker 1: at Wharton, my brother was moved out and working. This
24:59
Speaker 1: is the three of us, and he had visited for
25:02
Speaker 1: the weekend and he left that morning to go back
25:05
Speaker 1: to Athens where he lived and worked. And I just,
25:11
Speaker 1: I guess I just suppressed this or blocked it. But
25:15
Speaker 1: it's only been in the last few years that I
25:17
Speaker 1: remembered that. At the murder trial, I testified, and I
25:25
Speaker 1: remember coming down the witness stand. It was a really
25:28
Speaker 1: tall one, and where you go up and there's a landing,
25:32
Speaker 1: then you turn left towards the witness standing up some
25:35
Speaker 1: more steps, and I remember coming down those steps and
25:40
Speaker 1: I walked past the district attorney's table and I looked
25:44
Speaker 1: down and I saw a denim shirt covered in blood,
25:52
Speaker 1: and I immediately knew that that was Keith's shirt that
25:58
Speaker 1: he had been wearing that day. And Maggie, it's this
26:04
Speaker 1: has only come back to me. I mean, it's been
26:07
Speaker 1: years later, and it came back with such clarity. But
26:14
Speaker 1: I remember just stopping and looking at that short I
26:18
Speaker 1: knew exactly what it was. What was it that you
26:23
Speaker 1: knew beyond a doubt that was Molly's swimsuit. No, I really,
26:32
Speaker 1: I don't know to analyze it. I think it's just
26:35
Speaker 1: that I was the mother. I picked it out. It
26:37
Speaker 1: was the color, and I think there was a little
26:40
Speaker 1: bit she was going to the training for the lifeguards
26:44
Speaker 1: and she needed a certain kind of you know, a
26:46
Speaker 1: pink suit type. So I knew that material and it
26:49
Speaker 1: was blue, but it had some you know, it had
26:52
Speaker 1: to be a little bit cool, so it had some
26:54
Speaker 1: mixed colorings in the middle of different things. And I've
26:58
Speaker 1: seen it. I knew, I just knew. And you know again,
27:02
Speaker 1: they had to send the police in, they had to
27:04
Speaker 1: send the such party, and they had and I mean
27:07
Speaker 1: that began a really another whole experience because the first
27:12
Speaker 1: day they came home with one bone, you know, or yeah,
27:16
Speaker 1: it was a shift bone, but it could possibly be
27:18
Speaker 1: someone in Molly's age range. The next day they had
27:22
Speaker 1: ripped bones, and then by the third day they had
27:25
Speaker 1: her skull. I mean, what mother sees, you know, we
27:30
Speaker 1: actually did say goodbye to Molly and kissed goodbye, but
27:33
Speaker 1: we only had twenty four bones that were found. But
27:37
Speaker 1: because of that, we were able to get her dental records,
27:40
Speaker 1: you know, so that's they had to certainly make sure
27:45
Speaker 1: it was Molly's and I think that was the only
27:48
Speaker 1: way we were able to they were able to face
27:50
Speaker 1: the police. But I knew, you know, and it was
27:54
Speaker 1: just confirmed the moment you saw the swimsuit, you knew.
28:01
Speaker 1: The moment everything happened, you knew it was bad. M
28:06
Speaker 1: Heather bish is Molly's sister, Heather, What do you recall
28:11
Speaker 1: of this time? Well, I think you know, again, it
28:16
Speaker 1: was still that it couldn't be possible that Molly was
28:19
Speaker 1: abducted at you know, I thought in the beginning that
28:23
Speaker 1: it had to be a mistake, and you know, sort
28:25
Speaker 1: of the same thing that this this company, right, there's
28:28
Speaker 1: there's got to be an explanation for this. And then
28:31
Speaker 1: as the moments and time kept passing and Molly didn't
28:35
Speaker 1: pop out in if anywhere, you know, that's when we
28:38
Speaker 1: realized her her peril. She was she was in a
28:40
Speaker 1: great feel of Carol. So you know, we became increasingly anxious.
28:45
Speaker 1: I think when even when we found the bathing suit.
28:48
Speaker 1: For me, you know, I think it just kind of
28:49
Speaker 1: just hold on to hope, like I don't know, maybe
28:52
Speaker 1: maybe he stripped her and threw the bathing suit in
28:55
Speaker 1: the woods or or something. We just want, I want
28:58
Speaker 1: to believe something as terrible as as her loss isn't
29:01
Speaker 1: isn't going to be what what the final end of
29:04
Speaker 1: the story is. And for me, I can remember the
29:08
Speaker 1: day that the state police actually came up to the
29:10
Speaker 1: house on June ninth, when when they did find Lestco
29:14
Speaker 1: Because people were coming over to my mom's house every
29:16
Speaker 1: day and I had been living in in Western mass
29:19
Speaker 1: at the time and driving out every morning with my
29:22
Speaker 1: three year old, and it was about a forty five
29:24
Speaker 1: minute drive, and for a three year old to have
29:26
Speaker 1: to go potty all the time, that's like two potty stuff,
29:28
Speaker 1: you know, never never an easy, easy trip. But we
29:33
Speaker 1: were doing that daily to to um ensure that we
29:36
Speaker 1: were we were all together. And I remember we had
29:39
Speaker 1: just gotten there on June ninth and there are people
29:42
Speaker 1: in the driveway and my mom was talking and Um
29:45
Speaker 1: in the distance, I could see the district attorney and
29:48
Speaker 1: the head of our investigation. Um walking up the driveway
29:52
Speaker 1: and they were wearing suits and it was, you know,
29:55
Speaker 1: the beginning of June, and I was thinking, jee, it's
29:58
Speaker 1: a real really hot day to be where in a
30:00
Speaker 1: full suit like that. And then I just I just knew.
30:04
Speaker 1: I thought, I just knew, like this is that, this
30:06
Speaker 1: is this is the final they're gonna tell us. Now,
30:10
Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting that you're saying. And I hate
30:14
Speaker 1: to keep projecting, but what you're saying is like striking
30:17
Speaker 1: so many chords in me. It's you know, you know.
30:22
Speaker 1: And because I recall that day I come out of
30:26
Speaker 1: a statistics exam, I was still in college and was
30:30
Speaker 1: walking to my job. I worked all the way at
30:33
Speaker 1: the other end of Mercer University campus and the library
30:38
Speaker 1: in the back of the library processing books, and I
30:42
Speaker 1: stopped midway. Of course, this was before cell phones, to
30:46
Speaker 1: use the phone, the pay phone in the student union
30:49
Speaker 1: to call the library and say, my test went over
30:52
Speaker 1: like twenty minutes, I'm almost there, just hold on like
30:57
Speaker 1: there was some emergency processing books. Okay. So, and when
31:01
Speaker 1: I did, they had librarian Miriam said, you need to
31:07
Speaker 1: call Keith's sister right now. I knew right then that
31:13
Speaker 1: he was dead. I need just like you, just when
31:17
Speaker 1: you saw those guys in the suits, you knew and
31:21
Speaker 1: I'm just I really, I just I just really wanted
31:24
Speaker 1: to run away, to be honest with you, I didn't
31:26
Speaker 1: even want to hear what they were going to going
31:28
Speaker 1: to say. I just thought if I could run, I
31:31
Speaker 1: would be able to outrun the truth or the reality
31:34
Speaker 1: or you know. It just felt like everything's going to
31:37
Speaker 1: change now, our whole life. Everything is ever feel again
31:44
Speaker 1: that you your mind tries to get around it or
31:50
Speaker 1: or or bend with it. Because I remember I would
31:54
Speaker 1: wake up in the mornings and I would think that
31:58
Speaker 1: Keith was still alive and this had been some elaborate
32:02
Speaker 1: rous and I would dream. I would dream and this
32:06
Speaker 1: is so I don't know exactly what this means, because
32:09
Speaker 1: I never saw a shrink about it. Probably should. I
32:11
Speaker 1: would dream that Keith wanted to get out of the engagement,
32:17
Speaker 1: and so he had faked the whole thing, because you know,
32:21
Speaker 1: this close to us getting married, he had decided that.
32:25
Speaker 1: In my dream, and I'd wake up and I got, oh,
32:28
Speaker 1: thank god, he's alive, and this just you know, and
32:32
Speaker 1: then I'd wait, wait a minute, I would have I
32:36
Speaker 1: would have dreams that Molly was still alive, but she
32:38
Speaker 1: would be you know, she would have gone off with
32:40
Speaker 1: her friends to Florida, or she went on you know,
32:44
Speaker 1: she went on a trip and she was just back
32:45
Speaker 1: and she was going to see her old boyfriend, and
32:48
Speaker 1: I would be I remember in the dreams feeling like, no,
32:50
Speaker 1: you can't go on. I've definitely want to be with
32:53
Speaker 1: you and hang out with you. And finally, that's not
32:55
Speaker 1: how twenty year old to feel about their teenage sisters.
32:59
Speaker 1: So I've always sort of thought about those dreams later
33:03
Speaker 1: now in life and thought, do you know, maybe Molly
33:06
Speaker 1: was trying to tell me in some capacity that she
33:08
Speaker 1: was okay, you know, and it was just me feeling
33:11
Speaker 1: of stuff, but feeling listen to this to the man
33:14
Speaker 1: who took Molly dish, does June two thousand mean anything
33:19
Speaker 1: to you. I remember it as a warm summer day.
33:23
Speaker 1: We left home, we picked up the police radio, and
33:26
Speaker 1: then we arrived at the pond. The sand truck was there.
33:30
Speaker 1: We watched, mesmerized like little children as the sand fell
33:34
Speaker 1: gently to the ground. Molly and Mom for the last time.
33:39
Speaker 1: Molly said goodbye, I love you and ran off. It
33:43
Speaker 1: was her eighth day on her new job as a lifeguard.
33:47
Speaker 1: That was the last time I saw or heard for
33:49
Speaker 1: my Molly. I have held those words wrapped around my
33:54
Speaker 1: heart to sustain it from breaking into a million broken pieces.
33:58
Speaker 1: It's been seventeen years since Molly bish vanished. Her remains
34:02
Speaker 1: were found on the central Massachusetts mountain side three years later.
34:07
Speaker 1: The case remains unsolved. It's an open investigation. We're constantly
34:12
Speaker 1: getting tips and leads on it will moving forward and
34:17
Speaker 1: going through the beginning to now. We started talking to
34:21
Speaker 1: some of the original investigators, just bring them in as
34:23
Speaker 1: a group, and we also have a disc attorney assigned
34:26
Speaker 1: to the case. So they came in and we just
34:27
Speaker 1: started going over there observations that notes their feelings, you know,
34:32
Speaker 1: things like that Maggie Bish could never imagine a moment
34:35
Speaker 1: that she'd never see her daughter Molly ever again. Molly
34:40
Speaker 1: could be very shy and she could be very silly.
34:43
Speaker 1: There was two sides of her in her comfort zone.
34:46
Speaker 1: She was silly like Lucy, I mean, goofy silly. We
34:51
Speaker 1: were just beginning our adult relationship when Molly disappeared, So
34:55
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34:57
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Speaker 1: Today on Sirius X with me is Maggie Bish. This
36:50
Speaker 1: is Molly Bish's mother. Molly goes missing one warm June morning,
37:00
Speaker 1: two thousand to search still on from Milly's killer. And
37:06
Speaker 1: I'm trying to imagine your your v you know, you
37:10
Speaker 1: pull up and you at a distance see all these
37:14
Speaker 1: guys and suits and your driveway, and I'm trying to
37:17
Speaker 1: imagine what Maggie, what that What that was? When press
37:23
Speaker 1: A van pulls up and they run up? What? What
37:27
Speaker 1: did they have a picture of her swimsuit? Maggie, Well,
37:31
Speaker 1: you know what, I guess this, like I said, this
37:33
Speaker 1: person didn't believe it. So they had six TVs going on.
37:37
Speaker 1: There were six TVs in that van, and there was
37:39
Speaker 1: every vantage point that they could take the picture. And
37:42
Speaker 1: I mean it truly was a small piece of bathing
37:45
Speaker 1: suit that was peeking count from underneath twigs and old leaves,
37:51
Speaker 1: and it was just taking in different rooms views and
37:56
Speaker 1: I mean it didn't take me a second to gather
37:59
Speaker 1: that information, you know, men, no seconds tonight. I ran
38:03
Speaker 1: up the stairs because I knew. I closed my door
38:06
Speaker 1: in my room and I began to howl. I was
38:09
Speaker 1: on my knees and you know John was down there
38:11
Speaker 1: talking and I just like for this the I mean,
38:15
Speaker 1: because again we adjusted missing Children's Day for the folks
38:18
Speaker 1: from Massachusetts. It was a beautiful day of great We
38:20
Speaker 1: were coming home feeling at least we're doing something positive,
38:24
Speaker 1: and you know, we always will miss Molly, that's what
38:27
Speaker 1: we But to see this was it was too close
38:31
Speaker 1: to knowing that this was not good. Again, wanted. We
38:36
Speaker 1: are now hearing rumblings that d n A, d ox
38:41
Speaker 1: rib nicla acid tests are storrying little seeds of hope,
38:50
Speaker 1: But what do you know about a potential DNA test?
38:54
Speaker 1: You want to talk? Sure, I um have been sort
38:58
Speaker 1: of headlining the investigative efforts with with for my family.
39:01
Speaker 1: But about a year ago they took and every so
39:06
Speaker 1: often they'll take piece pieces of evidence and and submit
39:10
Speaker 1: them for DNA testing and they'll try to compare it
39:13
Speaker 1: when they have a few years ago, they had a
39:15
Speaker 1: really I don't quote unquote good person of interest UM
39:19
Speaker 1: down in Florida and they you know, had taken some
39:23
Speaker 1: DNA from there and submitted it and then nothing was
39:25
Speaker 1: sort of a hit. UM. So as so I guess
39:29
Speaker 1: our hope sort of lies in the science and technology
39:32
Speaker 1: that you know, sort of helping investigator solve these older cases.
39:37
Speaker 1: And UM. So last year they took twenty four pieces
39:40
Speaker 1: of evidence UM to retest and so they don't exactly
39:46
Speaker 1: tell us what what they took or where it came from,
39:49
Speaker 1: but we know it was twenty four pieces of evidence
39:51
Speaker 1: UM and they resubmitted them for further testing. You know,
39:55
Speaker 1: as they, like I said, that the technology increases in
39:58
Speaker 1: the touch DNA becomes a allable UM, they will continuously
40:04
Speaker 1: keep keep re submitting for particularly these older cases, because
40:09
Speaker 1: they've they've been able to um you know self cases
40:12
Speaker 1: based on this DNA. I mean even right now we
40:14
Speaker 1: have a case in Central mass. It's it's not an
40:17
Speaker 1: older case, but they've been using DNA to sort of
40:20
Speaker 1: point the direction. Let me ask you, so they the
40:24
Speaker 1: seeds of hope, aren't that DNA samples have been taken
40:30
Speaker 1: and they're being re examined with new techniques that were
40:34
Speaker 1: not possible at that time. I mean that is a
40:37
Speaker 1: huge big deal because I recall trying rape cases, murder cases,
40:42
Speaker 1: you name it, with no d NA. You know what
40:45
Speaker 1: I'd have. I'd have blood, blood sample and I could say, well,
40:50
Speaker 1: the suspect is a positive and the perpetrator was a positive.
40:55
Speaker 1: That was it. Or maybe a hair and I could
40:58
Speaker 1: say the rapist or the killer is a Caucasian male
41:04
Speaker 1: with ex hair. I mean, that was it. There was
41:07
Speaker 1: no nuclear or mitochondrial touch nothing. So this is a
41:13
Speaker 1: major development that they are doing this. I want to
41:17
Speaker 1: ask you about this UM deep ground sonar test that's
41:25
Speaker 1: being done. What do we know about that? Yeah, so
41:29
Speaker 1: we you know, over the years, we've you know, because
41:32
Speaker 1: law enforcement is uh, you know, they sort of work
41:35
Speaker 1: on their own and and and you know, they don't
41:38
Speaker 1: necessarily report to victim families. That can become very frustrating
41:41
Speaker 1: for victim families. UM and because we you know, I
41:46
Speaker 1: felt very strongly that we wanted this to be solved.
41:48
Speaker 1: We wanted our community to feel safe, We wanted our
41:51
Speaker 1: friends kids to feel safe. You know, we've we've all
41:53
Speaker 1: grown up here where you know, and and some capacities
41:57
Speaker 1: family to each other. What do you think they hope
41:59
Speaker 1: to mind Heather with a ground penetrating radar And it's
42:05
Speaker 1: on a private property in an undisclosed location in Worcester County?
42:11
Speaker 1: What what could that mean? What was that where the
42:13
Speaker 1: swimsuit was found Maggie in Worcester County. No, No, it
42:19
Speaker 1: was where we received it. A so, so just trying
42:23
Speaker 1: to put the back start here. We um from friends
42:28
Speaker 1: in the area, uh person who has a PhD in criminology,
42:32
Speaker 1: and I sort of formed this sort of investigative team.
42:35
Speaker 1: It kind of came off to our fundraisers and things
42:37
Speaker 1: like that. We developed this little team. This little team
42:41
Speaker 1: developed these UM campaigns. So one year we did UM billboards,
42:46
Speaker 1: another year we did ads. Each time we do one,
42:50
Speaker 1: we do a tip campaign. And so we had a
42:52
Speaker 1: just one Piece campaign because the state Police has always
42:54
Speaker 1: said we're one piece away from solving this crime. During
42:57
Speaker 1: our just one Piece campaign, we see the number of
43:00
Speaker 1: tips on a particular person who say that this particular
43:04
Speaker 1: campground in Worcester County. UM. This next year we had
43:09
Speaker 1: another campaign. We called it just one Car because we
43:12
Speaker 1: were trying to identify this light car. Was it tlied
43:15
Speaker 1: to this person that the location is the question? So
43:21
Speaker 1: let me understand. The location is the campground where a
43:25
Speaker 1: potential suspect stayed. Okay, got it. And what do you think, Maggie,
43:33
Speaker 1: they are looking for with the deep ground search. Well,
43:38
Speaker 1: I understand that it has the potential to be able
43:40
Speaker 1: to recognize metal or rock or anything, and especially if
43:46
Speaker 1: there was something of some sighs, you know, bearing a
43:50
Speaker 1: car is quite big, you know, how deep could they go?
43:53
Speaker 1: So this radar has a way to analyze how that
43:57
Speaker 1: the depths and how significant that um, you know, if
44:01
Speaker 1: it's metal or something that you know, I guess that's
44:05
Speaker 1: what they do. They do some kind of a you know,
44:07
Speaker 1: computation and it determines. So from what we understand, there
44:12
Speaker 1: were three places that they felt some interest. Now you know,
44:17
Speaker 1: again they have to hand that information over to the
44:21
Speaker 1: state police, and the state police have to you know,
44:24
Speaker 1: decide if it's worth digging or going into now again.
44:28
Speaker 1: It could be it's like this whole story again. You
44:31
Speaker 1: always get hopeful, but you have to kind of protect
44:35
Speaker 1: yourself from disappointment. You've got to you know, you don't
44:38
Speaker 1: really you want it if but you're scared. The emotional
44:41
Speaker 1: battle within is unbelievable because you've been doing this so
44:45
Speaker 1: long now that you want it, but we don't get
44:49
Speaker 1: to choose any of it, you know. So it's great,
44:53
Speaker 1: Maggie that other girls similar in age to Molly also
45:01
Speaker 1: were kidnapped. Yes, we have a girl that was ten
45:05
Speaker 1: years old, a little bit younger, um in Sturbridge, which
45:09
Speaker 1: is a twenty minute uh a distance from our home,
45:13
Speaker 1: and she was taken before Molly, maybe seven years. There
45:17
Speaker 1: had been some cases or maybe even a little older
45:21
Speaker 1: that we're in northern Michigan and Massachusetts near the New
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Speaker 1: York border, and there was a gentleman that they thought
45:27
Speaker 1: was a serial killer up there that might have that involved.
45:32
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's so sad. I mean, you
45:35
Speaker 1: hear these horrible cases, but you don't understand them, and
45:39
Speaker 1: certainly I wasn't one that you know, really understood any
45:43
Speaker 1: of this. You know, now I know all these families
45:47
Speaker 1: who have struggled, and who keep struggling, you know, to
45:50
Speaker 1: find their loved ones on how they deal with it,
45:53
Speaker 1: and it is very very hard. So you know, again,
45:57
Speaker 1: there possibly could be serial killer out there, and that's
46:00
Speaker 1: what worried us because to be honestly, Nancy, how does
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Speaker 1: a normal person do something this horrific? And that is
46:09
Speaker 1: so it's like when you throw the rock into the
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Speaker 1: river and the ripples. It has caused so much pain
46:14
Speaker 1: to Molly's friends, our family out into the community. The
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Speaker 1: fear that he's somewhere, you know, and that's always scared,
46:23
Speaker 1: really captivating me about this one guy. And he is
46:29
Speaker 1: simply been investigated. He has not been indicted. He has
46:33
Speaker 1: not been charged. I'm talking about Rodney Stranger. Rodney Stranger
46:40
Speaker 1: had been living in Southbridge at the time Molly goes missing.
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Speaker 1: He relocated abruptly to Summerfield, Florida, a few months after
46:51
Speaker 1: Molly was kidnapped from her life guard position. Now what
46:58
Speaker 1: really uh interests me about him not not just that
47:02
Speaker 1: he relocated, but a woman that had known him, sister
47:11
Speaker 1: Bodny Bonny Kieran, told police about a phone call from
47:16
Speaker 1: her sister, who was then murdered, where the sister suggested
47:24
Speaker 1: that this guy may have been involved in murders in Massachusetts.
47:30
Speaker 1: Now this is based on something I read in the
47:33
Speaker 1: Wooster Telegram and Gazette. He alluded to bish Molly Bush
47:40
Speaker 1: and another girl, Holly Perinan, who disappeared in ninete that
47:46
Speaker 1: from Sturbridge, which was directly adjacent to Southbridge. What do
47:52
Speaker 1: you know about that? Call? I know, you know a
47:55
Speaker 1: lot more than I do. Maggie. Well, wow, you want
48:00
Speaker 1: to go ahead? How they go ahead? Well, you know,
48:04
Speaker 1: we actually have about seven people with the same same
48:08
Speaker 1: kind of circumstantial evidence surrounding them. Rodney Stanger was just
48:13
Speaker 1: brought forward in the media. So that's that's the greatest
48:17
Speaker 1: struggle for us, because we know, we know about Rodney,
48:22
Speaker 1: but the public only knows about I mean, you know,
48:25
Speaker 1: the public going knows about Rodney, but we know about
48:27
Speaker 1: the six other guys just like Rodney Stanger that are
48:29
Speaker 1: out there. And that's why we put together this movie
48:32
Speaker 1: about Molly most recently, and it was basically too slutify
48:38
Speaker 1: the events of June seven that we knew what and
48:41
Speaker 1: that what our new movie Mom, that we just did
48:48
Speaker 1: Missing Molly, How can I see that? Um? We We've
48:55
Speaker 1: been sharing it on social media. It's up on my
48:58
Speaker 1: YouTube page hold on Missing Molly movie, and I can
49:03
Speaker 1: find it on YouTube about the three minute movie. And
49:09
Speaker 1: we we had contemplated. I'm sorry, Heather, go ahead, go ahead,
49:16
Speaker 1: but I just wanted to say that it was an
49:18
Speaker 1: opportunity that we could share again. Young people are so
49:22
Speaker 1: conscious of social media, but we could share it even
49:25
Speaker 1: by Facebook. Somebody knows something. Okay, I didn't. I didn't
49:29
Speaker 1: even know about it. This is something new to me.
49:32
Speaker 1: Would you would you mind if I would you mind
49:36
Speaker 1: if I put this on our website and and I'm
49:40
Speaker 1: going to direct to everybody too, because this is something
49:42
Speaker 1: new for me to learn through. Um. Hold hold on,
49:47
Speaker 1: I lost track. Okay, so Missing Molly and it's on YouTube,
49:53
Speaker 1: and you're gonna give me the info and I'll put
49:55
Speaker 1: it on crime online dot com and hold on and yeah,
50:00
Speaker 1: this is this is a case where I mean, what
50:03
Speaker 1: what the you know? We had this bad thing happened
50:05
Speaker 1: and it was horrible and it would change has changed
50:08
Speaker 1: our lives completely. But every single day, every day, almost
50:13
Speaker 1: somebody comes forward and does something amazing or helpful or
50:17
Speaker 1: gives us something. And you know this, this Peter Massey,
50:21
Speaker 1: who came up with his ground penetrating radar to look
50:24
Speaker 1: at the campground a couple of weeks ago. That was
50:26
Speaker 1: something that we organized. On the side. I organized with
50:29
Speaker 1: a person that's a criminologist that I know who was
50:33
Speaker 1: you know, worked with him. And you know, it was
50:35
Speaker 1: a long shot halfway down to the basketball court, sort
50:38
Speaker 1: of throwing the ball at the basket. But this person
50:41
Speaker 1: was was generous enough to come up here and donate
50:44
Speaker 1: his time, to skill his knowledge to help us, you know.
50:48
Speaker 1: And again maybe it was a long shot, but I
50:50
Speaker 1: mean long shot, but really all we have left at
50:52
Speaker 1: this point, and so again the movie. A friend of ours,
50:56
Speaker 1: Kathy Kurn from Channel five News, and I were talking
50:59
Speaker 1: one day. I said, you know, I really think I
51:00
Speaker 1: should make a movie about Molly and solidify what happened
51:03
Speaker 1: so people aren't confused because of that. People will say, well,
51:06
Speaker 1: they got that guy in Florida, he must have done it,
51:08
Speaker 1: or oh I heard about that guy and left and
51:10
Speaker 1: you're absolutely and no one followed the story. And so
51:15
Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure that they imprinted it somewhere
51:18
Speaker 1: that here are the facts. Well, you know what I'm
51:20
Speaker 1: about to do I'm about to log on and find
51:24
Speaker 1: Missing Molly's movie that you orchestrated and another thing. Everybody,
51:31
Speaker 1: please write this number down eight seven seven two nine
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Speaker 1: eight five toll free eight seven seven to nine eight
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Speaker 1: five one five five one day this case will be solved.
51:52
Speaker 1: Molly bish still on our minds, still in our hearts,
51:58
Speaker 1: Maggie heather m Thank you, guys, thank you, thank you.
52:05
Speaker 1: I can't thank you enough. And you will always be
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Speaker 1: one of my most special people in the world and
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Speaker 1: I appreciate it so much. And and you're helping so
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Speaker 1: many people and you're still continuing. And from my Molly,
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Speaker 1: we thank you. What's all our Nancy Grace crib story
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Speaker 1: signing off, goodbye friend,