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115 A Meadow That Appears and Disappears? Eric Potts Describes a Possible Bigfoot Portal · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the I Jubiter podcast. I'm your host
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  Speaker 1: Tom Franklin. This week we have on Eric Potts where
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  Speaker 1: he's going to talk about his big foot encounters, his
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  Speaker 1: uh everything under the sun. It's going to be quite
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  Speaker 1: the episode. And he said, just get ready for some stuff,
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  Speaker 1: to rock, so with all that out of the way.
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  Speaker 1: Let's welcome to the eye. Eric Potts, Hello, sir, How
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  Speaker 1: you doing alive? Well down here in sunny Mexico. How
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  Speaker 1: about yourself?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm down here in Missouri, trying to survive. Tried
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  Speaker 2: to flood out last Thursday.
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  Speaker 1: All right, I think I seen you have some posts
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  Speaker 1: of what they're saying if you gets yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got ten feet from my back door.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's far enough. That's far. What are you down
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  Speaker 1: in the southern part of the state.
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  Speaker 2: And then well, I guess northern part of the southeast.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Donardo and Jackson, Okay, well, between Jackson and Perryville.
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  Speaker 2: I'm about thirty five minutes north of Cake, Gerardo, I have.
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  Speaker 1: It's in the Ozarks, yes, right, which is very important.
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  Speaker 1: It's a part of it. I haven't been to the
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  Speaker 1: state since twenty fifteen myself. I'm lived in Germany twenty
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  Speaker 1: years and now I live here in the Yukatam Peninsula
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  Speaker 1: with all the jungle here that goes deep into Central America.
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  Speaker 1: So it's a pretty interesting place as well. Down here,
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  Speaker 1: I've seen some stuff. No cryptis as of yet, but
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  Speaker 1: I have had things thrown at me and I have
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  Speaker 1: heard some interesting voices in the middle of the jungle,
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere. That's another show, and people
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  Speaker 1: who know the show have heard the story. But you now, Eric,
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  Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about yourself, and if you're
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  Speaker 1: promoting anything, you know, you can go ahead and do
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  Speaker 1: that as well.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm sixty three and it just seems like I've
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  Speaker 2: had stuff happen pretty much all my life, and it's
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  Speaker 2: just been weird stuff. We just moved here about five
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  Speaker 2: years ago. We were down in Kennett, Missouri, where it
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  Speaker 2: was just nothing there really, But I did see a
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  Speaker 2: cryptic one night. I guess I was around ten eleven.
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  Speaker 2: I'm in the generation where you don't come home till
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  Speaker 2: the street lights kick on me before you go to bed,
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  Speaker 2: and me and this neighbor kid was seeing something flying
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  Speaker 2: and there was a full moon up and it crossed
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  Speaker 2: over in front of the moon, and it looked like
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  Speaker 2: a human standing with wings from its wrist to its ankles,
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  Speaker 2: flying upright, and we both scattered. We both went running
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  Speaker 2: for our houses, trying to tell our parents what was
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  Speaker 2: going on, And of course they're come on through imagination.
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  Speaker 2: And a few years later there was a show that
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  Speaker 2: came on out of Memphis. I think it was time
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  Speaker 2: for talk or something like that, and they started talking
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  Speaker 2: about the scripted and it was mainly spotted in southern Illinois,
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  Speaker 2: and I was trying to tell my mom, right, there's
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  Speaker 2: what I seen, and so it all got kind of
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  Speaker 2: blowed off, and a lot of times I forget about it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I just, you know, I don't even think
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  Speaker 2: about that experience. But then when I got older, when
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  Speaker 2: my dad sided is open go hunting. Me and my brother,
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  Speaker 2: my dad one squirrel hunting. I was dropped off first,
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  Speaker 2: it was along the San Francis River. My brother was
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  Speaker 2: dropped off second, he's nine years older than me. And
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  Speaker 2: then my dad went out the furthest I'm sitting there
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  Speaker 2: under a tree and I'm bored out of my mind,
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  Speaker 2: of course, waiting on the squirrels to come back out.
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  Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, this old man comes walking
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  Speaker 2: by in his black suit, string tie, had on an
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  Speaker 2: old hat, long white beard, long white hair, and as
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  Speaker 2: he was walking, he just kept turning his head looking
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  Speaker 2: at me, and I'm like, what in the world. I
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  Speaker 2: never seen anything like it. Well, next thing I know,
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  Speaker 2: here comes my brother and my dad come on we're
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  Speaker 2: getting out of here. We ain't coming back hunting here again.
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  Speaker 2: And I said, the old man was wearing suit. My
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  Speaker 2: brother said, no, he was wearing coverall. My dad said,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I don't know what my dad was thinking.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't say, okay, but he was wearing two different
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  Speaker 2: sets of clothes. One like that is just so weird.
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  Speaker 1: But you're describing the same individual.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we were describing the same person, only
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  Speaker 2: dressed differently. And really couldn't explain why that would happen.
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  Speaker 2: You think, Okay, if this ghost is out there roaming around,
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  Speaker 2: it would be probably wearing the same thing. But it wasn't.
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  Speaker 2: And then later on in life, I bought a house,
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  Speaker 2: married kids, bought this old house built in nineteen thirteen,
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  Speaker 2: and I lived there for twelve years, and it was haunted. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Simple things would happen, like something flying across the room.
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  Speaker 1: You get in bed, nothing about that I've had that happens.
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  Speaker 1: Not simple. It's it's very frightening.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, getting get in bed and you hear this, like
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  Speaker 2: a fair nail going down a chalkboard, Oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: dams at the ft of your bed, and you'd hear
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  Speaker 2: it jump from to other rooms, and uh, I would
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  Speaker 2: sit up and ask it to stop. Look, I've got
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  Speaker 2: to go to work in the morning. I've got to
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  Speaker 2: get some sleep, which please stop, and it would, but
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  Speaker 2: it's started back up the next night. I mean, you
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  Speaker 2: just have to bury your head in the pillow and
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  Speaker 2: ignore it.
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  Speaker 1: So you're saying it was intelligent. It was like an
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  Speaker 1: intelligent thing. You would kind of understand what you were doing.
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  Speaker 2: Come to find out a woman and a little girl
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  Speaker 2: had gotten burned up in a house fire there back
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  Speaker 2: in the forties, and people had seen the little girl.
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  Speaker 2: She'd peep around the corners, stuff like that. My daughter's
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  Speaker 2: seen them. They all come Saturday morning. They were in
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  Speaker 2: the bedroom playing. They come running into the living room.
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  Speaker 2: Come here, come here, hurry up, come here, come here.
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  Speaker 2: And so I got up running there and they're like,
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  Speaker 2: she's gone. I'm like, who's gone? The little girl? The
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  Speaker 2: little girl? She was right there. Oh, there was was
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  Speaker 2: a polyotoy setting there, and I'm like, okay. But I
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  Speaker 2: had things happen like came in from work one morning.
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  Speaker 2: I was working a night shift and I'd laid down
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  Speaker 2: on the floor to watch TV. I was dirty, want
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  Speaker 2: to get on the furniture. Yeah, And the old house
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  Speaker 2: had metal Venetian blinds in it, and I had a
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  Speaker 2: cold chill hit me and the blind just went up
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  Speaker 2: like somebody grabbed it, pulled it up, look it out
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  Speaker 2: and then if.
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  Speaker 1: In the middle it.
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  Speaker 2: Is like somebody had a hold of it and pulled
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  Speaker 2: it up and let it go. And I mean that
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  Speaker 2: was just nuts. And you know, I mean, what do
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  Speaker 2: you say to something like that? And I've talked to
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  Speaker 2: other people that my ex wife, she had went to
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  Speaker 2: the school. I think it was a parent teacher's meeting
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  Speaker 2: or something like that, and one of the women asked
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  Speaker 2: her if anything strange happening in the house. She said, well,
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  Speaker 2: what do you mean, she said, the ghost? This woman
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  Speaker 2: knew about it. The house in one family for sixty
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  Speaker 2: years and there was only one family that lived in
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  Speaker 2: there about three years before I bought it. And uh,
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  Speaker 2: they had lost the house to the bank and I've
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  Speaker 2: got it from the bank and they're like, no there
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  Speaker 2: they were burnt up in a fire, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: things would happen. And she even went back with the names.
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  Speaker 1: How did a teacher know about it?
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  Speaker 2: She was related to the family, Oh okay that owned
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  Speaker 2: the house.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Yeah, she brought it up to your ex wife,
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  Speaker 1: and your your ex wife were probably just white as
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  Speaker 1: a sheet when she heard that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, Oh yeah, you got to be
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  Speaker 2: kidding me. You know, knew who they were. And there
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  Speaker 2: was times, you know, like wife and the kids was
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  Speaker 2: little gone to a little rock. She was from there
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  Speaker 2: and we I some guys came over. We were playing
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  Speaker 2: cards at the table and one of the guys like,
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  Speaker 2: I thought, you said, wife and kids was gone. I said,
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  Speaker 2: yeah they are. Well there's a little girl peeping around
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  Speaker 2: the corner. And I just stood up and I leaned
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  Speaker 2: to look down the hallway and I said, what in
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  Speaker 2: God's name do you want? Well, he just set there, froze.
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  Speaker 2: One went under the table, and one jumped up and
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  Speaker 2: went to a corner.
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  Speaker 1: The men like, what is wrong with you guys? The
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  Speaker 1: men break?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, drown ass men and and they they they all left.
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  Speaker 2: They got out of there. They know they didn't want
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  Speaker 2: no part of it. And it's and went to bed.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, you were like, by walk to the fridge,
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  Speaker 1: you made a sandwich. Is just a normal Saturday night
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  Speaker 1: for you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's it was just normal. You never
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  Speaker 2: knew what was going to happen.
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  Speaker 1: Just just this the psychological like thing that happens to us,
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  Speaker 1: like something so strange and unusual becomes such such a
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  Speaker 1: commonplace in your life that for you it's like, what
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  Speaker 1: do you want ghosts?
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  Speaker 2: It's such a crazy Here's the bathroom at what five
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  Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning, and I left the door open,
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  Speaker 2: and this boy says, come out here. Well, of course,
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  Speaker 2: my head just jerked around real quick, and there's nothing there,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, flush Taller went went back to bed,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I mean, you didn't know what was going
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  Speaker 2: to happen.
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  Speaker 1: And when it was a voice, a male or female voice,
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  Speaker 1: female female.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it seemed to be right there. The hotspots
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  Speaker 2: seemed to be right there in that hallway, m you know,
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  Speaker 2: because you just had doorway. They came into this larger
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  Speaker 2: section and then hall that went further down and you
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  Speaker 2: had three doors right there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I always found it to be like, those dissembodied
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  Speaker 1: voices are for me, much more frightening than to actually
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  Speaker 1: see it. I see it. It's not it's not it's like,
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  Speaker 1: oh there it is. I've seen the freaking hat man. Dude,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the hat man. I've seen that thing crossing
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  Speaker 1: from yeah, and it's like and what didn't scare me?
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  Speaker 1: I was just like, what did I just see? And
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even know it was called a hat man?
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  Speaker 1: Then I just seen it. Yeah. Then here in the forest,
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  Speaker 1: you hear said, what was that? To hear that in
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  Speaker 1: the middle of the jungle in the Yucatan, it's a
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  Speaker 1: very very unnerving thing, right, I mean there's nobody out there, dude,
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  Speaker 1: there's nobody for a mile and a half, and that
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  Speaker 1: that part. To go in there, you have to drive
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  Speaker 1: through a lock gate that only certain people have and
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  Speaker 1: I know everybody back there, and you have to have
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  Speaker 1: a truck that can go through the mud with big
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  Speaker 1: you know Miami mudslicks. You can't just get back there.
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  Speaker 1: And I mean there, you know, my ex wife at
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  Speaker 1: the wife at the time, and my little girl, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm out there in a hammock in the jungle. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you know what is that? And it's wild. Man,
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  Speaker 1: it's a weird thing. But then I just, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I said some stuff and I haven't had any problems since,
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  Speaker 1: but at the same time, it's very unnerving.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, we finally got divorced and I left the
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  Speaker 2: house to her, and I don't know what went on
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  Speaker 2: after that. She eventually lost it about five years after
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  Speaker 2: I left, and which I bought a new house, so
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't having any more problems. And uh, but I
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  Speaker 2: had stopped there one time because I seen somebody I
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  Speaker 2: knew that I went to school with, and she was
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  Speaker 2: staying there at the time with this guy, and I
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  Speaker 2: asked him if there was any problems because they didn't
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  Speaker 2: let me in the house, and I've shown them some
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  Speaker 2: of the stuff that i'd done, it done in the
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  Speaker 2: house and everything, and uh, I said, they ain't anything
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  Speaker 2: weird going on is here? And she's like, WHOA nothing
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  Speaker 2: I really noticed. I said, you don't hear any noises
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  Speaker 2: or like fair nails going down a chalkboard and she said, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I hear it in my room at night. I said, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's a ghost. She packed her bags and left.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't it crazy? We're kind of like, no, nothing nothing out.
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  Speaker 2: Of the dry packed her bags and the left.
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  Speaker 1: That's the human psychology. We're just like no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: And then when you say exactly what she heard, then
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  Speaker 1: she's like yes, And so yeah, well I'm not alone.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not crazy.
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  Speaker 2: No, she wasn't alone. She wasn't crazy. And she even
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  Speaker 2: told the guy, she said, I've been telling you that
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  Speaker 2: and you don't listen to me. And I'm like, oh God.
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  Speaker 2: So then I got remarried and uh Wi's from Indiana
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  Speaker 2: and she wanted to go on vacation Indiana and I said, okay,
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  Speaker 2: Well she want to go up see some of her family.
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  Speaker 2: So we went to stayed with her, stay at her
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  Speaker 2: nieces and we get up there and her husband says,
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  Speaker 2: did you bring a digital camera? I said, well, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I've got one with me. He said, well, good, We're
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  Speaker 2: going ghost time. And I'm like okay. And he brought
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  Speaker 2: out this case and says, here's my ghost stuff and this,
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  Speaker 2: that and the other. And I'm like, well, this be interesting.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I've already had some experience with some of
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  Speaker 2: this crop. And we did. We went out Steep Cemetery
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  Speaker 2: and we've been out there several times, and every time
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  Speaker 2: we go, there's there's action. Something always happens. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you try uh using a spirit box and it's leading
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  Speaker 2: you through the graveyard and keeps telling you left, left, left,
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  Speaker 2: and next thing you know, you're at the entrance and
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  Speaker 2: it says leave, took you on the block, took you
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  Speaker 2: all the way around the around the uh cemetery, and
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  Speaker 2: then told you to leave. Uh. We had one where
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  Speaker 2: one was speaking to us using a MF meter, answering
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  Speaker 2: yes and no questions. Child had died out there on
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  Speaker 2: the stump, and that's what we were working with, was
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  Speaker 2: a stump, and that she said that she didn't know
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  Speaker 2: what had happened to her child basically, and that uh
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  Speaker 2: she was she wasn't involved in him. She was out
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  Speaker 2: there looking for a kid. And there's even a child
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  Speaker 2: grave out there. And you know, I mean there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of a lot of stories that goes with it.
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  Speaker 2: If anybody ever has a chance to go to Indiana,
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  Speaker 2: this deep cemetery go okay, I mean my camera it
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  Speaker 2: was just full of orbs, full of orbs. And in fact,
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  Speaker 2: me and the nephew we were standing there in front
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  Speaker 2: of this witch's grave and this blue orb came floated
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  Speaker 2: over the top of the tombstone and went into Now
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  Speaker 2: this orb wasrobably a little smaller than a basketball. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: And he's like, did you see that? I said, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he said, what kind of that? Ain't a bug, is it?
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  Speaker 2: I said, Hell, I know that ain't a bug.
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  Speaker 1: And you've seen this with have you seen this with
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  Speaker 1: you or with the car?
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  Speaker 2: Yes? With eye okay, yeah, sitting there with the camera
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  Speaker 2: down on my side, and uh, I'm like, you've got
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  Speaker 2: to be kidding. But we had gotten to where that uh,
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  Speaker 2: they would come come to Missouri, we'd find places to
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  Speaker 2: go ghost hunt, we'd go up there with ghost hunt. Well,
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  Speaker 2: they were getting ready to come down about twenty seventeen
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  Speaker 2: to Missouri and I'd been working all day Saturday, and uh,
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  Speaker 2: I told the wife, I said, we've got to find
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  Speaker 2: some places to go. And she was there with couple
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  Speaker 2: of girls that she worked with. They were swimming and
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  Speaker 2: they said, well, look at Boogie Boogie Woods north of Dexter.
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  Speaker 2: That's interesting and it's a conservation area. I forget the
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  Speaker 2: name of the conservation area.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the colloquial name is the Boogie Woods. It's
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  Speaker 1: so interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, And you're talking about a house out
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  Speaker 2: there for a man came home from World War One, okay,
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  Speaker 2: and he wasn't himself anymore. And this man, uh commits suicide.
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  Speaker 2: He cuts his throat, shoots himself in a head and
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  Speaker 2: throw himself off the balcony. Well, the church church that's
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  Speaker 2: on the same grounds, decided, well, this ain't right, and
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  Speaker 2: they took the life, considered her as a witch, and
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  Speaker 2: buried her a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Damn.
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  Speaker 2: Now we're talking about there's Civil War cemeteries out there.
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  Speaker 2: Where's this that again, Dexter, Missouri. Dexter, Missouri, Okay, called
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  Speaker 2: the Boogie Woods it is. I have to look it
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  Speaker 2: up on my phone.
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  Speaker 1: Because I'm from Baltimore. So we have Antinam and we
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  Speaker 1: have Gettysburg close by, which your Gettysburg is super haunted,
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  Speaker 1: right right, So okay, all right, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm reading down through this and the last few
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: paragraphs is talking about hunters seeing bigfoot. Okay, I'm like,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: what in the world. Well, be and a wife we
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: had finally went out there about a year later. They
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: they didn't they never came, And we went out there
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: about a year later checked the place out found the
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Civil War graveyard and that's where the church was supposed
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: to be be where the woman was buried. The house
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: it had just been purchased, so there was no way
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: of getting into it. It was being totally gutted and remodeled.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: But there was a graveyard there with a church where
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: a serial killer had killed this woman and left her
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: body there behind the church, and supposedly you can see
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: her at night walk in the grounds. I wanted to
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: say his name was William Bell, but I don't think
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: the Bell is right. In fact, he's still incarcerated in
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Missouri prisons. And so we had left, and a couple
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: of years later, it was twenty twenty Thames February, you know,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: because here was there was some bigfoot activity out there,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: and I could kind of see it because there was
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: a there's a landfill near the near there that would
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: give place to go feed, and so I always just
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: had that in the back of my mind. I was
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: still doing ghost hunting, and I was still getting calls
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: to do houses and stuff like that. I mean, one
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: house we'd done, a woman and her son got into
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: an argument and the husband went out to the garage
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: and hung himself, and he was haunting this place. And
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: it was the couples were in their early twenties. They
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: had this one kid with him that was probably sixteen seventeen,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: and he was being bothered by the ghost. Well, so
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: we had got there and I went in there with
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: an MF meter running, and there was a bar between
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: the living room and the kitchen and I'm standing there
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: at the bar and the MF meter kick on, kick on,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: kick on, is like the thing was pacing. It knew
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: what we were there for. It didn't like okay, and
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: we got it to answering questions through the MF yes
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: and no, but it never would really say a whole
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: lot and it quit. There was quite a few people
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: there and they wouldn't sit, still kept moving around. Well,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: the next night, the couple is setting on the couch
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: watching TV, the kids in bed, and all of a sudden,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: he's being drug through the living room in front of him,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: his feet, nothing there, agony, Yeah, grab him, pick him up,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: throw him in the car. They go back the next day,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: move out. Wow. Yeah, So I didn't you kind of
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: like turned it.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: You started being an investigator because of your second wife
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: and her interest in her friends, right right? Oh yeah,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: So it seems like I had a bit of a
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: calling for you, Like I.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Had the people that was wanted me to come to
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: their house, tell them what was going on. You know,
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: why is this thing here?
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: What was the name of the crypt that crossed in
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: front of the moon. Could you tell me in the
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: name of that You said that it was on a
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: TV show.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: It was on a TV show, but I can't remember
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: what it was. But ok. They're very popular in southern Illinois.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: And right now I'm right across the creek or the
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: river from southern Illinois. Okay, there is a documentary that
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: is out on on YouTube and on two B called
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Grand Tower and Other High Strangeness. Uh, I suggest you
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: look at it. The UFOs are thick in here. I've
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: seen three UFOs in the last five years that i've
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: lived here.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you sent this to me, and.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: One was right out The last one was right out
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: here in the yard. Had a waterline put across the yard,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: and I was filling the hole back up, and I
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: sat down taking a break, and all of a sudden,
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: this thing comes flying across, or this plane is flying across,
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: and I'm just watching it, and all of a sudden, poof,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: this thing appears. The sun just got it just right.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: And uh, there was And I've seen one shrewd could
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: cross the sky while I was out in the big
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Foot Woods, which we haven't gotten to that yet.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: We're getting there.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: And I've seen the triangle one.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: You mean, like the like the phoenix lights kind of
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: triangled the outside.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Yep, oh yep. So it's been like right here in
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: this area, which just spooks central. Well, I had looked
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: on Facebook found a group that was in uh southeast Missouri.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: They were out of cape that was bigfoot. Well, this
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: guy had put a post from Maldon, Missouri, outside of Malder,
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Missouri of a big footprint. And I've talked to the
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: guy since and he's and right in that area is
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: a lot of peach orchards. And he said they were
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: just eating the peaches up and when the you know,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: peaches were done, they went on that they weren't there permanently,
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: they were just traveling through. But he said a lot
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: of people were scared to go out at night. Okay,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: and I want to I tried to talk to guy
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: at the time. I said, hey, tell me where he
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: had hold and over where this is blah blah blah.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: He wouldn't tell nobody where it was because they didn't
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: want people coming out there trespassing. Wound up in a
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: pasture with cows and have a bull chasing you down.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: So you know, I'm like, I've got to get a
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: hold of this group. I'd been following them for year
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: or two and I got ahold of them. I've met
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: with him in May of twenty twenty and one guy
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: was really interested in going out and doing some hardcore
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: camping to find out what it was.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this area that you're talking about where you live
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: is very highly active. I know of this. I had
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: a friend drive through this area. His name is Raheem
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: and he his family has something to do with the
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Kandahar Giant. He's actually originally from Afghanistan, right, and he's
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: been in America since like nineteen ninety and he was like, yeah,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: I was driving through it with my buddy. We're going
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: to pick up some weights and stuff from Philadelphia, and
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: he got freaking scanned in his brain and like the
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: thing had his brain and like in the lock and
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: he's seen something like you said, cross the sky, yeah,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: and it just completely messed him up. And when he
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: came out, he was like messed up, Like he could
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: couldn't breathe because something like literally had him, he said,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: like a like in a joint lock in his mind.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: So this area that you're talking about is highly active
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: when it comes to UFOs.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Interesting it is.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: He kept saying southeast southeast and June you're saying Illinois.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: It's like, which, how far is the little I'm going
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: to go down to touch of Missouri. So I looked
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: up on the map. That's my brain, and I know
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: where he's at. Yeah, I know exactly where you are, buddy.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I'm twelve miles from Grand Tower, but it
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: takes me an hour and a half to drive there
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: because it's on the other side of the river to
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: go down and around miles from you know, you got
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: a tower rock settler that's been there for millions of years.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: The Grand Tower. Yeah, is there other things there too?
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Oh god, it's there's the like Indian burial type mountain
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: type things.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: I'm living on Indian ground.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Grand Tower, isn't it the name of it? There's like, uh,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: oh my god, I think I've seen this.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: It's a big rock in the Mississippi River, you know,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: just standing straight up like a big hill, and unless
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: the river's real low, you can't get to it.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: And the story is that this couple that was in Illinois,
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: they took a boat over to the tower to get married,
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: and on the way back across. They all drowned except
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: for this one slave girl.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: And then years ago a niece wanted to get married
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: out there, and they had traveled back to it, and
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: supposedly the dead from that first wedding party had came
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: up and gave her some type of tablet and went
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: back into the into the water.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Is this what you is this what you're talking about? This?
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: This this?
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Yep, the limestone deposit.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: I'm twelve miles from that.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: And this place is super on the other side of
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: the river, okay, and this place is hyperactive when it
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: comes to the UFOs and all that. Yes, I was
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: thinking of something.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Okay, you passed the power plant.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: You're on the right.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Uh. Yeah, there was a power plant you passed there
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: and Grand Tower. That's the power plant that. Yeah. The
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: documentary I was in talks about uh a UFO hovering
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: over the top of that draining power out of that
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: uh power plant.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: No kidden, no kidden. Mhm.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: I was there for the big you know, for for
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: the big foot foot b getting tongue tied.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, right, yeah, I like to pull it
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: up to give people a visual of what you're talking about.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: You know. So I the more we learn, you know
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: what I mean.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well back to twenty twenty. I met with
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: the group and this me and this other guy was
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: gonna start going out together. Well, I had to work
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: that Friday, so I was going out Saturday afternoon. Now
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: I had one hundred mile drive and uh he came
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: out the day before. Well, me and the wife had
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: to run over to Jonesboro, Arkansas. That was only an
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: ire from the house. And so we were having dinner
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: and I got a text that the guy got run
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: off out of the camp. Okay, and I'm like, what
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: do you mean he got run off? And supposedly a
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: group of bigfoot and I'm talking probably about twenty five
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: thirty of them came to the camp and ran him
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: off out of there. In fact, it said that he
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: unzipped the tent and he had one about ten foot
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: in front of him. Alius, he was the silhouette, and
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: he stuck his gun out the door and started shooting,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: and instead of it going quiet, it went nuts. And
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: so I told I showed the wife, I said, we
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: need to go. And so several years before that I
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: had a camp and I sold her all my camping gear, tents, everything.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: So we stopped, got a couple of sleeping bags and
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: a couple of other things, went the house, got some clothes,
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: threw in her car, headed down there or headed up here,
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: and uh we showed up right about eight o'clock at night.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: He had just left, but the group was still there
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: and they were telling me about earth. They were telling
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: me about it. After I got out of the truck
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: and I hit the ground looking, They're like, well, there
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: was a footprint over here, And I said, well, what
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: about this one? What about this one? What about this one?
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: What about this one? Here's one up by the road
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: and it's at a slant. The hill is in about
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: six inches, the toes are in about three grass all
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: around it. I mean, I was surprised to even find
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: it and reached in there and you could fill the toes.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: I'm like, this thing came down.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: That's so cool. I'm sorry, power.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: The ground up here is clay, okay, And that year
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: it was a drought okay. So it's hard to take
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: a hammer and beat on this ground and then not dent.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: But when it gets wet, you better believe it's It
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: stays wet for a while, And uh, so, you know,
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: and everybody's like, you gotta be kidding, you know. No, Well,
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at the other side of the road because
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: it came from over there and this all terrain was
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: driving by. He stops and you lose up, I said, what,
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: I was just kind of looking around. I said, uh,
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: buddy of mine, he apparently got ran off out here
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: last night by something, and I was just looking around
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: to see some kind of clues. He said, well, I
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: don't know about him last night, but uh, but for
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: the last several days. Uh well, he said four days
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: somebody had been camping and they were throwing fish over
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: on the other side of the road. And the guy
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: said they wasn't throwing just the carcass, the bones and
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: you know, the leftovers of gut. No, they were throwing
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: a whole fish over there for four and eight. And yeah,
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: I mean you go out, if you go out for
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: one or two days and you want to feed them that,
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: you know, okay, but don't be out there throwing enough
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: food out for a clan. And that's what happened. They
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: showed up, wanted to know where their food was and
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: went eight literally. Yeah, me and the wife decided we're
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: gonna stay. Now. This is what probably the second time
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: I've met with a group. And they said, wholla, man,
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: I hear somethingbout you. You can do a bigfoot call.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: I said, yeah, I worked on it at work and stuff,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: and so I've done it. This was at eleven o'clock.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: I got a reply back, and you can tell it
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: was a ways off. I'm like, okay, Well, they all
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: left at midnight. Me and the wife was staying. We
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: were leaping in the back of a car and I
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: told you, the only way we're going to be comfortable
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: is we leave the back hatch open. Nope, ain't gonna happen.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: That sounds like me.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Oh god, that was exactly how I say.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: It ain't gonna happen.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: So they left at midnight. So from midnight to one,
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: we're sitting there in the dark. We didn't have no lanterns,
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: no fire going, no nothing. The only light that was
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: going was off for a phone. She was reading a
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: book and I'm sitting there watching the hill side in
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: front of me. And we're both sitting there and all
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: of a sudden, I'm like, what is that? What? Well,
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: she started blaming me. I started blaming her.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Oh I got it.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: The stench hit our nose.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: I got you and for about thirty.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Seconds, and it wasn't either one of us. One had
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: gotten so close to us we could smell it. Didn't
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: have a clue then that that's what was going on.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: We didn't have a clue. Well, she decides one o'clock
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: while I'm gonna get in the car and go to sleep. Said, okay,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: she gets in the car, here's this yell right down
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: the road. This thing had done come up looking for
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: me and was wanting to call back. And I ain't calling.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: This thing ain't happening. And so I got in the
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: car and that was it. And then the next night
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: another couple had met us there which they had a
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: tent and we were setting out on a picnic table
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: and her son and a friend showed up and they
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: were walking up towards us, and I seen this light
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: go just fly straight up and stop. Okay, and I'm like, whoa, whoa,
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: we got something going on. Well, he so happened to
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: have a set of binoculars that was night vision, that
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: was military, and he got it on it showed it
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: to me and I said, you're not focused in yet.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Get it focused he got it focused in and sure
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: enough it was the triangle with three lights. Yeah, it's
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: a triangle. Even though it was quiet that night, and
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: the cops did show up looking for me.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Uh, we're looking for.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: You, my kids. They thought we were going out for
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: one night. We were out there for a second night,
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: and half the state of the journy was looking for me.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: And I'm that's great though, that's a good Yeah. I'm
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: in a spring intent with the two women and the
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: other guy was out there on the picnic table watching
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: the sky since we'd already seen that. And uh, the
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: cops show up and they're like, we're looking for Eric
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Potts and I said, yeah, that's me. Can we talk
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: to you over here? Well, they were making sure we
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: wasn't being held hostage against her will, and they're like, year, okay.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: I said, I'm absolutely fine. My daughter must have misunderstood.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: And she said, okay, well, can you answer us another question?
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: I said, all right, can you prove me that proved
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: to me? The bigfoots out here said yeah, let me
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: get a flashlight. I got over there to that footprint
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: that was in the ground. They started pulling their phones
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: out and snapping pictures the one female cop that was
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: there had was from Alaska.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: How did they know that, as you.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Because because the kids and then what we were out there.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, the dad's out there looking for bigfoot. We're afraid
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: he got grabbed up.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. And she was from Alaska and had an
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: experience when she was five years old camping with her
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: family with a slapping the side of the tent and
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: yelling and screaming, and she had no clue that there
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: was any around here. Yeah, and so that was pretty shocking.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: And then, you know, then it got pretty normalized after
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: that cop was there for about nine and a half
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: and so a couple of weeks later, me and the
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: guy that got run off, we meet out there, we
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: go camping. Another couple shows up checking on us, making
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: sure we're okay because there's just no phone service out
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: there at all, and uh we uh. We sat there
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: and she had gotten on the phone, called called her wives,
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: let them know that we were fine, and so they left.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Now this is June and June of twenty twenty, and
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: we're sitting there. They leave and he's like, are you
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: going to do your call? Seven seven point fifteen. It's
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: not dark until about nine o'clock. Come here. My dog
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: sport and uh she just loves me and the uh
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: little Minnie weenie and uh so I said, well, yeah,
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: I'll just go ahead and do it. So I pulled
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: my phone out, put it on record, and I'd done
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: the yell and got nothing. You know, I stood there
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: for a few minutes. So we're like, well that didn't
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: work out, did it. I walked the back of my truck,
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: got a soda, got in front of my tent, and
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: this scream just inside the woods behind my tent. I'm talking,
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: this thing probably wasn't twenty thirty feet from me. Oh
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: my god, what's screaming at me? It was the longest, loudest,
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: most guttural scream I've ever heard.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I mean, how did you did you what
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: kind of affected that hat to your body? Like did
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: your hair stand up?
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: You could feel it, you could feel the pressure, the
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: decimal pressure on your body. And I'm just standing there
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: looking over the top of my tent at the woods.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: Now this guy's up by the rope. He's scared to
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: get near the woods. He's up by the rope, he's
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: a little ways from me. He had to put his
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: shoes on him get out of his tent. He's standing
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: next to me saying, see see, I told you, I
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: told you. Look at him, and I looked back the
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: woods and then finally stopped. I'm like, what if I
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: got myself into.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Could you see it?
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: No? It was in the just it was like a horseshoe.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: There's like a horseshoe of woods going around the camp. Okay,
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: and then behind it is a field, big field. I
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: wouldn't run it into the woods, no way. And I'm like,
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: you've got to be kidding me. And we're standing there
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: and man, it's nuts ten o'clock that night, and of them,
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: one group back in the field, back behind behind us.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: The other group was up by the creek. They were
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: yelling and screaming at each other, two different groups of them.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, it was shocking. I mean they were just
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: going at it. And finally the group down by the
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: creek started moving off, and you could tell they were
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: moving off because they were still mouthed as they were walking.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: And that moved on off. Well, there was at least
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: three in the field behind us, and it sounded like
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: it was one of the two f's. You know. It's like,
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: you know, one was squealing, one was and the other
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: one sounded like he was giving his opinion.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: Okay, I got you cursing somebody else.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god. And this went on for
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: like forty five minutes. Yeah. And then the next night
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: they were up on the road. We throwed some chicken
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: out and apparently one the other guy could hear them
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: eating the chicken and there was only one piece of
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: chicken missing. And uh he said, it sounded like the
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: guy must have had a bad tooth or something and
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: bid into a bone, put out a moan. I was
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: passed out, so I didn't hear it. So that was
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: the first two times I stayed out there.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: And.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: Every other weekend and holidays for two and a half years.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: What's it called the Booker Woods.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: No, No, this is on up into the Cape in
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: Cape County. I'm out of Uh yeah, I'm away from Dexter.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: I'm driving a hundred miles. We were told about about
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: this conservation area where they were at, and that's where
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: we went, and sure enough, that's where they were at.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: And for two and a half years, every other weekend, holidays, everything,
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: there was so much that went on. I've seen this
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: thing stix times, okay, anywhere from the outline with the
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: reddish orange glowing eyes staring at me. Okay, the one
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: walking across the field in broad daylight, and the one
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: walking across the field in broad daylight, black shiny hair.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: It was a side shot of it walking walking just
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: like Patty, and the hair would hang down about probably
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: eight to ten inches off the arms and legs, and
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: it's just walking through this grass. Well, the thing of
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: it is, there was an opening there in the trees
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: into a field. I've only seen that opening three times,
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: and I had finally decided it's not a break in
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: the woods after six years. It's got to be a poral.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: It's got to be where they're coming in and out at,
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: because I know exactly where the spot's at, where the
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: break in the trees is at. But I've only seen
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: that opening three times and I know exactly where it is. Wow,
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: And it's got to be a portal. And fact I've
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: only admitted to that for probably the last three months.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: Or Yeah, I could imagine. I can imagine. That makes sense, man,
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: because like you trying to freaking rationalize. I mean, first
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: of all, it's hard to rationalize what you're seeing what
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: you're hearing going up there, it becomes your main interest,
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: and then this this keeps happening in this particular area,
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: and eventually you have to come to some type of
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: understanding of what you're seeing and to say something to yourself,
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: like a portal, that has to be a portal that
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: they can Yeah. Right, that's what I'm trying to say. Man,
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: it makes complete sense to me.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: It really does, because I know exactly where it's at,
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: and there's trees. I've gone through there so many times
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: driving looking for it and can't find it. Can I
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: find a break in the trees? No? Word, But then
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: I'll drive through there boom, There it is where it's
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: supposed to be.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: Are you telling me that you Okay, so I understand
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: this correctly. Are you saying that there's a little field
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: in the woods sometimes exists and sometimes doesn't exist. Yeah.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to picture it in my mind like a
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: little meadow of sorts.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: Is it natural looking or is it more like.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: It's natural looking it's just tall grass?
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: Cool?
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: So I mean like a farmer's field, okay, Because this
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: is something I've been hearing in another area that we
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know where it is, and if
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: you go there, you have to sign an NDA. Yeah,
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: called the Meadow Project. You might be aware of.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: It now, I haven't heard of it.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: Well, it's it's a place that somewhere is in the
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: southeastern United States. We don't know exactly where it is.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: That somewhere's in the deep dark woods, somewhere where this
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: guy has come across a field. His name is Trey Hudson,
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: and he's a former military guy. So he and his
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: friends are really annotating everything and they're finding cubes out there. Weirdness. Uh,
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: just a stranger. Yeah, yeah, dude, you got to get
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: in contact with and talk to him because this thing
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: where you're seeing a meadow sometimes and not seeing it others. Yeah,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: that's new to me. Yeah, that's a new one to me.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to go out there and set up
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: trail cam across the road from it because apparently that
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: opening will open up during the daytime mm hmmm, and
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: get this thing opening up or closing.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: That's what he was telling, Yes, sir, he was saying
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: to me Eric that like there was one time where
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: he was crossing out of the meadow into the woodline again,
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: or across a creek or something.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: No, it was just out there. It was out there
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: in the field in the meadow walking.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: No, I'm this is Trey Hudson experience. I'm trying to
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: connect it with what you're saying. So maybe he's saying
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: that he thought he was going one direction, crossing a
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: creek into the field or something. Next thing he knew,
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: the person was like, Hey, why are you coming back?
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: You're supposed to be going that way. He got completely
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: turned around, and he was thinking, maybe that has something
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: like it connects to the four one one where people
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: are walking somewhere, they walk into a different area that
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: didn't exist the moment before, and it get turned around.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: The next thing you know, they're in the field that
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: you see sometimes and sometimes you don't. Right, dude, that's incredible.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: And I think that's where they're coming from.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: It makes sense.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: I think that's where they are coming from. Frankly, I
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: just thought they lived out there in that area. In fact,
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: one of the campsite, there's two campsites out there, there's
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: a cave up near one of them, and an hour
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: before daylight there would be wood knocks calling them in
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: because they're up there in this cave. Well, I've been
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: told that the cave has caved in, but apparently not.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: Apparently they've got access. But I think I think they
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: are coming and going.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm and calling each other in. Yeah, they got
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: kind of running funny enough, like some kind of shift work, right, And.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's the only thing I can explain is
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: that there's about a mile stretch right here that I
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: know where it's setting. I know exactly right where it's
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: setting because there's a little road going up to the
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: end of the woods. But it's got a you know,
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: gator crossed it. Because when I seen that thing, I
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: started to jump out of my truck and run down
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: at road to get to the end, you know, by
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: the field where I could record it. But men, you know,
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: I had kids coming up from behind us, and we
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: were afraid we were going to get hit rear ended bomb,
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: so we didn't. We just went ahead and one on
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: the house. But me and my wife both watched it.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: But I was out there with Miguel from a squatch theory.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: We were out there and I was talking to him
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: and I'll tell him I'd show him that break in
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: the woods couldn't find it, and I'm like, some ain't right,
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: why is it? Sometimes I see it and sometimes I don't.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: The times that I'm looking for and I don't see it,
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: I sit there and think, well, I just probably missed it.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: But apparently I didn't. Apparently it must have shut down.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: And it's the only thing I can come up with.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: There's no other, I mean, the only thing.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: There is nothing else that you can possibly think of. No,
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: maybe orta. This is a dirty word that's been used
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: so much, But there's some type of break in three
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: dimensional space and time of some sort in which one
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: moment you can see it with you know, the reality
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: that we're seeing it, and then one moment you can't.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: But you've seen it before and it seems to be
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: emanating or coming from there. Yeah.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's an explanation for everything.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: There's got to be something that makes absolute sense, not
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: something just way out there, you know.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: But sometimes the way out there is the answer, you
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: know what I mean.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: That's the problem, right, that's the problem.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: But that makes it why you enjoy it as well.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: Let's be honest with you, Let's be honest with the
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: people and everyone else. This is scary. It's untouched territory,
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: this whole thing.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: Yea.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: And it's human nature to want to know. It's just
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: is people like it. If not, horror movies wouldn't exist,
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: and the you know, the legend of Boggy, none of
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: that stuff would ever exist because you want to know.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: So wanting to know the answer is what drives us
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: for which makes us interesting, which makes all of it interesting.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: And I completely underly understand it. And for some reason,
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: it seems that you have been somehow either tagged as
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: a kid with that experience, you have withever that thing
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: crossed in front of the moon and everything else that's involved,
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: and you're still going out to this location.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: Not as often. Uh. We turned around. I was driving
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: up here so much, and we had decided we were
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: gonna move many years ago. We'd been in the same
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: house for like eighteen years and the town was just
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: going downhill. The hospital shut down. I said, I don't
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: care what's on your honey do list. I'm throwing a
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: seal sign on the house. Took us over a year
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: to sell it, and we moved up here. I'm twenty
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: minutes from the area.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: Oh, you moved closer to the areas you can be close, right.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And the creek in my backyard goes to that area.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: Are Oh you just take all right.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: I have found footprints in my backyard and I've got
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: a neighbor it's back across the field. She's seen one
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: in her backyard. Do you want to let the dog in?
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: Pauling at the door won't end like crazy? Mm hmmm.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: And there it is, standing out in her backyard.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, So what's what's what's next for you? Man? What else?
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: What else is the what is? What do you with
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: this information that you're kind of collecting the experiences you
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: coming on here as part of that, well talking about
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: as part of that. But what else is the.
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: Growing up as a kid? I figured it was an
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: unknown ape. It ain't. I've heard them talk, I've seen them.
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: They're smart, they're intelligent. Nowadays, when I go out there,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: they'll come up to the campsite and I'll just go
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: out and talk to them. I'll get my chairs, sit down,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: face the woods, entertain them, you know, eric trying to
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: get them to talk, trying to get them talk back.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: Last time I slept throw them being there, they threw
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: a bunch of plumbs up in the campsite. There was
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: another girl there that she heard them breaking limbs and stuff.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: I got up, laid down. I don't know. I think
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: it's about eleven, ten o'clock. I'd done some calls and
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: I've done a call, got a reply, done a call,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: got a reply, done a call, got a reply three times.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: And it was just just inside the woods, good little waves.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: They were watching us. Well one o'clock I got up,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: find a spot to pee, got back the tent, went
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: back to sleep. I was out, and she said after
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: I went back in a tent, she said, limb started breaking.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: It was getting noisy as could be behind her tent.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: And I said, why didn't you wake me up? She said, well,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: I didn't know what to do. What would you have done?
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: I said, I'd have got out, grabbed a chair, sit
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: down there in front of the woods and talked to them.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: And she's like, what this was the first time she
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: had ever been okay? And I said yeah. And she's like,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: I would say that's crazy, but I don't think it is.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: I said, I'm wanting one to come out. I'm wanting
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: one to come out and show itself, come out and
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: interact I know they've got they lived by a whole
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: different set of rules from what we do.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, but.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: I've heard them talk. Labor Day weekend twenty Yeah, I
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: think it was twenty twenty. There was seventeen of us
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: out the camping site. We were doing. People were hiking around,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: making all kinds of noise everything else. We were cooking,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: having a blast. Eight o'clock that night, we were down
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: to eight. It was about seventy degrees, so we didn't
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: want to hang around the fire, so we were off
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: beside the picnic table. One comes up the end of
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: the parking lot watching us. I've got my back to
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: the parking lot. My daughter's next to me, her back's
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: to it. My wife's at the end, but she's facing us.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: She's wanted to send somebody's in a parking lot. And
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: she keeps saying, there's somebody in the parking lot. She's like,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: where's Mike, where's my said, Mike's rutt there, because Mike's
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: pretty big boy. This was a pretty big boy that
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: was standing in the parking lot lot and uh it
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: was at the second car end, standing there watching us,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: and she just kept on. It took me about ten minutes,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: and it finally dawned on me. The last people that
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: left was an hour ago. We're all right here. I
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: jumped up spun around. By the time I jumped up
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: and spun around, that thing had moved to the other
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: side of the parking lot. I could see its outline
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: and these two big red, orange blowing eyes staring at me,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: and I'm yelling, there it is, there, it is. Somebody,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: get a spotlight. There it is. Soon as I took
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: my eyes off of it, gone, I looked down for
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: a spotlight.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: Gone, Yes, isn't it the thing too? Like as soon
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: as you take your eyes off it and look somewhere else.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: Right, don't take your eyes off of it. If it's
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: staring at you, you don't look away. That's not gonna move.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: So we get spotlights. We're scrambling across the parking lot
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: and here's this peace spot in the parking lot where
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: it was standing three foot across. Whoa big wet spot
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: three foot across, big brown circle. Why bears are hand in?
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: It starts sticking it into everybody's face. Yep, it's b
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: and we're looking at that. We're all talking. I'm about
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: halfway out in the parking lot kind of looking into
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: the woods. If I could see those eyes again and
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: they start talking, There's three of them, starting with the gibberish,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: and after that that was it. It was dead quiet
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: that night till an hour before daylight, before the sun
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: come up wood knots.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: Do you mean with dead quiet? Do you mean like
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: you wouldn't hear like other animals scurrying around? Nothing?
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: Nothing? Nothing, nothing, no birds, no nothing. It was dead quiet.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: Why the red glowing eyes? Though, I don't think I've
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: heard that as much i've heard yellow amber, you'll hear.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know i've heard the red. The red eyes
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: is you know they're mad mm hm. And it could
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: have been that it was just shocked that we caught
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: it right, you know, right, and because we did have
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: one that Thanksgiving come into the camp man.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: Okay. But the reason I'm asking is because, okay, if
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: your wife is seeing it for ten minutes, and I've
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: spoken to barbershop who has the infamous the one that
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: looks like predator where it looks like the if you
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: ever get a chance, it looks like it's just like
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: the force moving when it's running away from her, and
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: she's just like, yeah, they you know, they want you
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: to know that you're there, So like I think they
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: wanted whatever that was in that parking lot was like, hey,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: I want Eric to see me. And then it looked
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: at might have we don't know that.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: I mean there was a full moon out behind it, okay,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: and that's why she could see a silhouette. One fact,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: it is uh want sitting next to me, and she
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: was looking back there and she said, all I see
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: is the you know, the reflection off the tail lights
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: off the cars. You know. Apparently she she wasn't in
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: the right position to see it, but you know, she said,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: I can see the reflection off the tail lights from
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: the fire. But that was all she could see. And
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: she was probably looking directly across the fire. And that's
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: why she wasn't saying anything.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: Because dude was messing with her vision.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: Of course, it was a little wavy thing with the
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: heat above it, and.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: I got and uh, but I mean everybody seeing the
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: peace spot, everybody heard it talking. What is it that?
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: If if so, if if I already guess what have
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: talked like, would that be what people are calling that
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: samurai chat? Yep? Okay, so you guys can look that up.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: A chance to look up Samurai chat. Lincoln put it
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: in here, so that's gonna look it up.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, they were talking really loud to each other
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: and you could tell three different tones of boys. But
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: it was so oh god, the voice was just so
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: powerful boom, yeah, you know. I mean, it's like they
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: must have been yelling at or talking loud to each
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: other because it scared them. It's not you, We scared them.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: Which interesting is too. Is like if they wanted to
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: be a secret, if they wanted to be like they were,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: just they would just you know, bugger off, they would
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: fuck off and it would just leave or whisper or something.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: But they're doing this and it's really loud. They want
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: you to hear that. That's intentional in my opinion. Oh
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: it was man, it's a.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: Wild man, I mean, and you know, and they just
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: apparently they stayed awake for the rest of the night,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: either that or they they were watching us from further off.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: You were talking about Thanksgiving? What was what was the Thanksgiving?
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: When you were there was a group of us that
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: went out there, and my daughter had went actually two daughters,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: their husbands and kids, and my dog and my daughter's dog,
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: and they just love each other. Not that little one one.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: I've got a sixty pound pitt weenie.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: Pit weenie.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I figure rindall. Well, yeah, I woke up about
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: three o'clock in the morning. I had to go now
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about it was twenty degrees outside. It was cold,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: and I get out of the tent and the one
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: son in laws is up and he's like, man, something's
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: going on out here. I said, what do you mean.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: There's been something down there playing in that pond for
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: three hours and there was a stick come flying down
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: at at me from up in the trees. I said,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: why didn't you wake me up? I've got night vision binoculars,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: you know, And he said why, I just didn't want
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: to disturb anybody in right. Well, getting up, of course,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: there was a bunch of us out there, and the
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: dogs took off. Well during the day, the dogs had
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: been running all over the place, just shoom shoom. I mean,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: they'd go flying past you. And so we're up for
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: a while talking and my trucks parked behind my tent.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: It's not in the parking lot, it's behind my tent.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: I've got two granddaughters in it, and which the dog
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: had been in there with them. And so finally at
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: four point thirty we decided, Man, we got to get
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: back to bed. You know, it's cold. You know, I
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: want to get back in under some covers. Well, the
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: dogs wasn't back yet. I'm like, well, let's show up
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: sooner or later. So we get in there, and it
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: wasn't but a few minutes the dog showed back up.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: My daughter just unzipped her tent, let her dog again. Well,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: mine went back into the truck with two granddaughters. That's
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: where we put her at. It wasn't ten minutes. I
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: get woke up with this stench. I'm setting up on
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: the bed, slid my pistol off beneath the pillow. Smith
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: and Weston nine millimeter trying to keep from gagging, growing
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: up on everybody, and I could hear the growling going on.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: Apparently they got out there, found one and was running
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: circles around it. Because that's what my dog will do.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: She'll she'll run circles around you. Let's trying to catch her, yeah,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: because it's fun, right, kissed it off. So it's at
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: the back of the tent just growling. I'm ready to
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: start popping bullets up through the tent straight up if
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: it started beating my truck up. And so I'm sitting
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: there waiting and finally it walks off. It gets down
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: to where this one gate is at, because it's toward
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: the road going out of the area, and it gets
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: down by that gate and just screams at us, wakes
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: up the camp. Everybody's like, what is that. I said,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: it's a damn big but it was at the back
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: of the tent, but you don't know. Oh yeah, and
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: uh now they didn't know everybody was sleeping through it.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: But it woke me up. I mean, oh my god,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: the smell was horrible. This thing was mad, and I
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: think that's why they put off that stench, kind of
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: like I guess a skunk if it's if they're scared
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: or mad, they put out that smell.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: I was talking to a gentleman in uh Minnesota. He's
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: a singer and he has forty acres backed up to it,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: and he has them there too, and he's a singer,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: and he went out with the monster quest gentleman. I
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: can think it was name right now. It's got such
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: a strange name, and they were out there and he goes, hey,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: do me a favorite and sing. So he would sing
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: and nothing would happen, and then when he stopped singing,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: the smell would come, but not the person who would
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: sing would smell it. Only the people who were with them,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: the two other gentlemen horrible, like it was in their mind,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: like the smell was in their mind. Yeah, not the
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: gentleman who his name is Randy Bauer. And and uh
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: think I can't think it was there right now, but anyhow,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: and he was like, Tom, this is real. So I
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: went and then I asked him. He goes, yes, he
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: would sing and then this would happen, but the smell
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: wasn't affecting him. It was affecting us. And he's like,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: I don't smell damn thing. And he did it like
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: four separate times. It's like they're upset by the fact
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: that he would he stopped singing because he's a great
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: he's a really great saying yea is it's such a strange.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: Have you had any mind speaker they talked to you
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: in your head too? No, but I have been zapped. Okay,
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: it's described that for us. I mean.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: I was. We were going to be out there for
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: two days, and we left after the first night. I
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: had this ultimate fear that if we stay, something is
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: going to happen. Something bad is gonna happen if if
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: we don't leave.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: Wow. And and this is the not the same night
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: that I yelled at you from twenty feet from behind
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: the tent.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: This is another no, no, he was By that time,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: I had already I was already shunned from the group.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: The group liked just going out setting and listening, maybe
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: put a voice recorder up here and there or whatever.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: They didn't want. I was told, if I want to
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: stay with them, no guns, uh, no electronics, just a
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: chair and a tent, a place to sleep, and you
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: set you listen. I said, no, no, nope, there is
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: no way in the water. In fact, after the experience
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: with one behind the tent, I went out and bought
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: me a forty four magnum with bare rounds. Right, you know,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: even though that nine millibeer had sixteen bullets in it. Yeah,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: Walmart bullets, give me a break. I went and got
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: a forty four magnum right. In fact, I bought the
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: second one.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: Since then, that's the thing That's the thing I want
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: people to understand too. There's some people who would say
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: that what they're doing is correct, and there's other people
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: who say that what you're doing is correct. What I
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: say to is that your experience is your experience. If
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: you felt that, that means it was palpable to you,
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: and therefore you feel you need that protection, that's what
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: you're going to do. I would do the same if
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: I felt that way.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: Well, there's bears up here, there's mountain lions. I even
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: seen a panther one time. Uh, it ain't just the
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: bigfoot that I'm scared of, it's the other things that
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: I'm scared of.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: Right, that makes sense too, you know, yeah.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: I mean normally mountain lions and bears and everything, they're
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: going to do the best stay away.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: From you, right right. So you you were there one
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: night and you decided to get the hell out of Dodge.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: Yep, there were one night and I said, we we
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: we just got to go. We had quite a big
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: go on that night. I mean there was one that
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: walked out across in front of me. Uh, seen two
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: UFOs up in the sky. They were in front of
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: an airplane and they were at different angles. Well, the
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: aircraft was coming in behind the one, so it just
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: did a ninety and another ninety getting out of its way. Dude, Yeah, yeah,
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: sitting in a chair looking up.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: That's the thing, man, people, I'm going to go to
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: the Grand Canyon to see something incredible. Sit in your
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: backyard and look up.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all you got to do here, that's all
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: you gotta do. And I even sat and talked to
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: him that night. But it's like it got later on
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: in the day and it was like they were telling
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: me I needed to leave because there is one out
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: there with a twenty four inch footprint. This thing's got
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: to be at least twelve feet tall, and it's probably
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: probably the lawmaker.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: Have you have you heard of any or do you
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: know anything or have you seen any like dog man
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: activity out there?
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: Last not this January, the January before. I was out
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: there and I seen some elongated three toad prints.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: Now, when let me ask you a question, when the
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: feeling that they told you to leave is this this
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: is before you've seen these three toad prints? Is it
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: like a couple of years ago?
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: That was that was before, that was a few months before.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: A few months before because I've heard that too.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: That was in October, moved up to January. Then I
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: was find and I was finding these prints all over.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: The place of the three the three top ones, the.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: Three toad prants in the areas that we hiked in.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: I was fine everywhere, and we've probably found in different prants.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: Because I've heard of people telling me like I would
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: be with the Bigfoot group. We've always been cool. You know,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: we have a gifting thing, we do all that. Everything's fine, YadA, YadA,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: YadA YadA. But it was one time I got the
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: message very loud and clear, get the hell out of here.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: Ye get out of here. And he thinks it's because
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: dog man has moved into the area and that night
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: might not have been a good night for you. Might
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: have been that too. I mean, just just giving you
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: information that may not may or may not like connect
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: to what the situation was for you. But you never know,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: because those things, those things are a different breed of.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: Not long ago, there was a dog man spotted over
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: in Greenville, Missouri.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: They've spotted right here, buddy, I got it here, and.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: Is not but a few hours a couple hours off.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're talking here. No big foot sightings. But on
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: the on the on Facebook and Spanish, someone said it's
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: about an hour and a half away from here. I've
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: seen this on a road, but I was on my
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: motorcyclehen they had an AI picture. This is the close
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: thing I can find to what I saw is a
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: picture of a dog man someone at the bottom. Hey,
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: I've seen this over at the power plant. The power
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: plant is fifteen minutes away from here. Oh, i've seen
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: someone too close to this area of close. Oh that's
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: also near to the power plant. Yeah, this is their
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: their They seem to be more and more and more
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: and more as well, and moving into these areas. And
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know if necessarily the dog man in a
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: bigfoot either get along. Some people think they might be
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: the same.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: They don't, but then some say they do.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: I've heard both too.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: It's kind of like the coyotes. You know, you'll hear
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: a pack of coylties go off, and then you hear
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: that one long in the middle of it. Yes, sir,
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: is the coyotes running with them so they can get scraps.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: I never heard that one before.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, there are so many questions.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: That's interesting.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: They can't be answered, it's just not even funny.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: It's true.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know they you know they make bird sounds. Okay,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: I'm laying there in the tent one night, mis barn
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: owl is going off over and over and over, and
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what in the world, Well, I'll put the
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: pair of bolic so on. I was listening to it,
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: where I hear a lot better, and it went off
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: about fifteen more times. Now, barn owl just don't go
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: over and over and over. They just don't do it.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: And it went off about fifteen more times than it
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: broke out into a tune. I'm mark, you got to
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: be given me that you didn't have got to be joking.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's so much stuff that happened that has
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: happened out there. I can't explain, have you?
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: So what do you before I get you about here, buddy,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: what would you say to the skeptic who's never seen
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: one before in things that you were absolutely just pulling
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: everyone's chain? How would you How would you convince them
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: in a very nice way that what you're seeing is real?
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: I mean I say this because I give them scientific
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: method stuff. I go, look like this, if one, let's say,
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: in America. In the last twenty years, there's been let's say,
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: easily ten thousand sightings. Okay, now you mean to tell
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: me that not one of those is real, one out
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: of ten thousand, that that that that statistical anomaly would
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: not be true. If there's one out of ten thousand,
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: then you'd have to admit to yourself that they're real, right,
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: And they would have to say yes, I would, because
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: that's what it is.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: But they don't.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: They don't because they can't.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: And most of them won't get up off their couch
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: to go look. Nope, I really don't want to know
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: the truth true because they don't want the truth m hm.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: Because if they know the truth, it's going to ruin
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: ruin what they love, hunting, hiking.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: Camping, knowing it ruins the knowing. My opinion is like
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: I know what's out there. So when that's gone for real,
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: then they feel afraid again. Like when you were a kid,
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: you were afraid of the night and the booms and
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: the cracks and oh there's a bob cat in the woods. Now,
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: oh again, as an adult in your fifties or whatever,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: you're now afraid again, which happens to people. They'll hunt
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: their whole life. They'll see it one time and never
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: go back in the woods again. Yeah, it's happened. I've
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: heard that.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: People they don't want to know, they really don't because
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: the government knows too.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: And the government knows.
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  Speaker 2: People start telling me, oh, well you you don't know,
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  Speaker 2: you're you know, you've lost your mind. Okay, well then
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  Speaker 2: why don't you just go with me? I ain't got
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  Speaker 2: time for that. Correct. Well, if I'm such a liar,
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  Speaker 2: come with me. Yeah, oh, my phone's down to fifteen percent.
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  Speaker 2: We're almost done anyway.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, but a lot of do people do this
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  Speaker 1: and then when you say something, then you see you go,
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  Speaker 1: that's exactly what I thought. Yeah, like me, I believe,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm afraid to go. Like if I was up there,
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  Speaker 1: I was with you usually a time. Here you go,
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: I'm a former US Army soldier. Okay, maybe that helps
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. Just give me a nice thirty out
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  Speaker 1: six some type of some type of lever action rifle
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  Speaker 1: thirty thirty and say, hey, then I got you. I'm
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: not very good with pistols. I can I'm a rifle guy.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: And you go, okay, you do the perimeter and okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'd go with you, buddy, But I believe because I've
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: seen the muscle flex right where Patty takes that step
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: and turns that right knee and it makes that the wiggle.
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  Speaker 1: You can even see the hernia. The ink showed me
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: the braid in the hair, and you're like, dude, who
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: in the nineteen sixties would say, let's not only make
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: a rubber mask and suits, let's put a braid on it.
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  Speaker 2: Who would do that? It's but there's people that just
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: don't you know. It's like around here, it's really run
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: my ghost, honey, because here it's mainly Catholics.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's here Catholics.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: Anything anything that's a spirit or a ghost or whatever,
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  Speaker 2: it's a demon. Everything's a demon. That's the alien.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: Alien absolutely in America. But the Catholicism here in Mexico
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: it's different. It's it's connected with the Mayan stuff because
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: I'm here in Mayan country, so they have like so
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: they the dead is completely connected with the Catholicism. So
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: for me, I can ghost hunt here if I wanted to,
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: no problem, just haven't had the chance to do so.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: But they're here, buddy. The stories.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm not saying everything is a demon. I mean
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: a lot of the ghosts that I've come up on
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  Speaker 2: is just mainly uh stuff that were where they had,
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: you know, they they had a reason to stay right.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: Woman's looking for for baby. You know. Man killed himself
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: and probably don't want to go forward because he knows
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: he's going to hell.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: For example, if you ever heard in Mexico the baby drowning,
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  Speaker 1: you're just screaming for it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so.
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  Speaker 1: Place is wild, man.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I I had people when I was down
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: in Kennett. I had people go with me. Non believers
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: thought I was full of crap. Get out there, here's
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: my stuff. Grab what you want. Here, I've got a
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: gun scope with a screen on it or that you
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: can see far off, you know, and you don't have
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: to in your eye. He grabs it. He was a
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: believer of the time we left because person jump out
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: from behind the tombstone and jump back down. Uh huh.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: And he's seen a saddle person running across the woods.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: At the time we got done, he said, I am
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: a believer, you know.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Eric, this was This has been way better than
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: I expected, only because just you just never know, man,
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: You never know.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: You know you just never know.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: I've enjoyed this so very much. Man, I want to
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: keep in contact with you. If there's anybody you want
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: me to contact and talk to direction all right, I'm
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: always looking forward to interviewing somebody. I love to hear
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: different perspectives. And it's been fantastic, man, Thank you so much.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: Well, i'll tell you what there's we didn't even touch
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: hardly anything.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: Well, then we'll have you back on. Has this sound
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: like a sound like a deal? Maybe in a month
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: or two.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd sounds like we get to the un stuffed
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: you did. All right, Okay, that's cool.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: I'm down, all right, guys, I hope you enjoyed that
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: very much. We are the guy. We are aware of
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: you all and have a wonderful day.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: You will have to use