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Book Club: Wayhaven (Books 2 and 3) · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha. Welcome to Stefan Never
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  Speaker 1: told you a production of iHeartRadio. And for this month's
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  Speaker 1: book club, the final book club of the year, we
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  Speaker 1: are coming back and we thought finishing Way Haven, but
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  Speaker 1: we are not because we thought there was only three
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  Speaker 1: but apparently there's going to be a lot more. But
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  Speaker 1: we did two and three for this. Yes, yes, So
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  Speaker 1: this was something that was first recommended to us by
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  Speaker 1: listener Amanda. And if you didn't listen to that episode
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  Speaker 1: we did on the first one, you can go check
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  Speaker 1: it out. I think we're going to rerun it pretty soon.
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  Speaker 1: Not a sponsor, just to say, but here's your brief explanation.
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  Speaker 1: The Way Haven chronicles are supernatural. Choose your own adventure
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  Speaker 1: that you can play on multiple platforms by Mish Jenkins.
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  Speaker 1: It follows you a detective trying to get to the
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  Speaker 1: bottom of some weird stuff, murders, experiments a lot of
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  Speaker 1: things in your life professionally and personally. There is or
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  Speaker 1: can be a romance element, which is determined by how
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  Speaker 1: you interact with other characters, and it is a very
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  Speaker 1: like you choose the gender of your character, you choose
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  Speaker 1: kind of where they live and their outfits and their
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  Speaker 1: name and the whole thing. But I do love. I
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  Speaker 1: have to say, I love when we do off the
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  Speaker 1: beaten path. Maybe you wouldn't consider this a book, even
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  Speaker 1: though it requires a lot of reading. It is they
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  Speaker 1: call it a book. I love when we kind of
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  Speaker 1: branch out and do things like this. So here's a
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  Speaker 1: short summary of the first game. Your first case, this
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  Speaker 1: is a detective is forcing you to open your eyes
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  Speaker 1: to a world bigger than you thought. But maybe it's
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  Speaker 1: better to keep them closed. Knowing too much doesn't help
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  Speaker 1: anyone sleep at night. Seems the Supernatural didn't get the
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  Speaker 1: mimo that nothing exciting ever happens in the little town
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  Speaker 1: of way Haven. Well, after playing two and three, I
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  Speaker 1: can say it seems a lot of exciting stuff happens.
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  Speaker 1: It always does, it does it does. So, like our
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  Speaker 1: previous episode, we're going to talk about books two and three,
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  Speaker 1: compare our experiences and outcomes. So spoilers, I will say,
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  Speaker 1: I want to start from the beginning and play again.
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  Speaker 1: Because we hadn't played the first one forever, I had
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  Speaker 1: to do two and three at once, and I because
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  Speaker 1: we were doing this for an episode. I talked about
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  Speaker 1: this in our first one that I deliberate over every decision,
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  Speaker 1: but I have to say, towards the end of two,
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  Speaker 1: I was just like choose and it was kind of
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  Speaker 1: freeing in a way. But I definitely made a mistake
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  Speaker 1: and I'm really mad. You can't go back because that's
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  Speaker 1: not what I meant to say.
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  Speaker 2: I've done that a couple of times, like, no.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I made a pretty big one, Like I think
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  Speaker 1: that was one of like the big decisions, because usually
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  Speaker 1: at the end, STATS tells you like, what did you
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  Speaker 1: do in these big decisions? And I, yeah, that's not
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  Speaker 1: what I meant to do, and you can't go back,
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  Speaker 1: so I'll just have to start all over again. Oh yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So when Samantha and when you replay things like this
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  Speaker 1: in general, do you make the same but like better choices,
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  Speaker 1: like do you try to improve upon the story you
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  Speaker 1: already have or do you go like a completely different way.
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  Speaker 2: I tried it. Well, okay, so this is where I
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  Speaker 2: went wrong on the first one. So I've already done
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  Speaker 2: the first and second one. I had the second one
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  Speaker 2: on almost immediately after waited the first one because I
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  Speaker 2: am that person and I really enjoyed it. So I
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  Speaker 2: was like let's keep going, because this is like Twilight level,
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  Speaker 2: not that it's Twilight, don't get mad at me, but
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  Speaker 2: like that romance what easy reading, like tense stuff that
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, yeah, it's been a long time since
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  Speaker 2: I enjoy something like this.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go.
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  Speaker 2: So I did that immediately, and it's been a very
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  Speaker 2: long time. So I jumped into three without reviewing two,
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  Speaker 2: and so my third book is probably different from what
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  Speaker 2: it should have been because I think I changed some
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  Speaker 2: of the results from the first one, because I don't
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  Speaker 2: think I ever caught Murphy in the first one, like
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  Speaker 2: I tried. I remember going back played to try to
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  Speaker 2: catch him, and I don't think I did.
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  Speaker 1: So you didn't load your previous No.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it's connected because I can like I'm
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  Speaker 2: right now, I'm trying to find my stuff for the
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  Speaker 2: second one and I can't. Huh, it's making me play
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  Speaker 2: all over again. I think it's the update raised everything.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting, because I mean I played two and three together
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  Speaker 1: and I just loaded what I had from one, and
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  Speaker 1: then it told me what happened, and then I played
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  Speaker 1: three immediately after. So interesting. I spoke about like in
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  Speaker 1: a game like Mass Effect, I played that game where
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  Speaker 1: I could go through every romance and see what happens.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm going to do when I
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  Speaker 1: replay this. I don't know because I made so many mistakes.
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  Speaker 1: Now I kind of know what happens. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, all right? Well, Part two and I
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  Speaker 1: just labeled this the Carnival comes to Town. But here's
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  Speaker 1: the official description from the website. Two months have passed
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  Speaker 1: since the bloody showdown with Murphy. Way Haven has returned
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  Speaker 1: to its peaceful routine, and you've returned to your lesson
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  Speaker 1: thrilling job as detective. But with your new role as
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  Speaker 1: human liaison to the Agency, an organization that governs the
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  Speaker 1: supernatural things should be far from dull. Along with the
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  Speaker 1: job comes Unit Bravo, the team you are learning to
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  Speaker 1: live with on a more permanent basis. With one of them,
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  Speaker 1: comes the continuation of feelings that were just beginning to
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  Speaker 1: be explored. But an altogether different is rolling into way Haven,
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  Speaker 1: coked and striped, tense blazing mites, and clouds of cotton candy.
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  Speaker 1: The Carnival has arrived. Prepare for the ride. So I
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  Speaker 1: think this one was very like do you accept the Supernatural?
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  Speaker 1: Or not. I feel like the point of this one
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  Speaker 1: was you because at the end of the first one
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  Speaker 1: you kind of get like fancy blood and supernatural powers.
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  Speaker 1: In this showdown with Murphy. The vampire Unit Bravo is
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  Speaker 1: a team of vampires where many love interests abound. You
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  Speaker 1: can make a lot of choices here and then the
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  Speaker 1: agency is sort of the governing body over Unit Bravo,
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  Speaker 1: and your mother, who you have an estranged relationship, is
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  Speaker 1: part of that agency. But I feel like a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the major choices in the second one for me
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  Speaker 1: were more like are you going to accept this supernatural
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  Speaker 1: world or are you not? So let's let's look at
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  Speaker 1: the stats. So my character's name is Kia Kingston. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like you also were a Kira yes, okay, okay.
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  Speaker 1: I was Carolyn Kirolyn okay, because it gives you like
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  Speaker 1: names to choose them. I was very charming over intimidating.
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  Speaker 1: I was very cautious over impulsive. I was very genuine.
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  Speaker 1: I was super friendly overstoic. It was more easy going
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  Speaker 1: than stubborn. Sixty percent heart versus forty percent, mind Optimus
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  Speaker 1: sixty three, team player sixty five percent. My relationship with
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  Speaker 1: my mom is at seventy seven percent, so it's pretty
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  Speaker 1: it's pretty good. And then oh man, it's the same.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, so there is kind of a love triangle
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  Speaker 1: that happened with me, and it's between Adam and Nate.
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  Speaker 1: It's the same old thirty percent shy seventy percent.
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  Speaker 2: Where you did Adam and Eate.
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  Speaker 3: This time I didn't mean to huh, yeah, that's like
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  Speaker 3: I think what happened is when you leave the first game,
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  Speaker 3: I think it kind of sets you up for a
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  Speaker 3: triangle between them, because I'm pretty sure I had more
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  Speaker 3: points with Farah because it has like relationship points, right,
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  Speaker 3: But I think when I imported that data, it just
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  Speaker 3: became in the second one where and even third one
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  Speaker 3: where I was like, Okay, they're really this is the
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  Speaker 3: relationship I'm in.
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  Speaker 1: And like I said, I got pretty impulsive at my
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  Speaker 1: choices at the end of the second one, and I
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  Speaker 1: was waffling on I just don't want to I'm like
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  Speaker 1: having fomo. I was like, well, I don't know what's
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  Speaker 1: gonna happen if I go do this, So I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Sure there's mom. You were like, but I don't do that,
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  Speaker 2: but I would rather do this. But it's realistically this right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there was one decision in the third one, and
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  Speaker 1: we'll talk about this later, but I was like, I
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  Speaker 1: feel like if I make this decision, which I was like,
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  Speaker 1: it made more sense, but romantically it's going to put
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  Speaker 1: me in a situation I don't want to be.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, by the third time, like they kept pushing
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  Speaker 2: even though I was obviously I did because I chose triangle.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna beck drama about it, like I did choose
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  Speaker 2: a triangle, but it's obviously that I'm leaning towards one.
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  Speaker 2: But if I chose the other, I think it would
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  Speaker 2: have just finalized that. The way it made the sound,
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  Speaker 2: it says start a new relationship. That's never an option
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  Speaker 2: with the other one.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting, Okay, we are going to talk about that more later.
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  Speaker 1: I want to know. I want to know. But also
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  Speaker 1: we both thought this was the last one, so I
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  Speaker 1: kept being like, wait, why hasn't anything happened. I've already
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  Speaker 1: pushed the I've made my decision. When trying to get
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  Speaker 1: me to cheat, what are you doing anyway?
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  Speaker 2: Really wants to make a messy?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, So basically the second one is kind of like,
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  Speaker 1: do you make a treaty with this supernatural group, which
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  Speaker 1: I did, and then they kind of join you and
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  Speaker 1: help you and you make friends with them. And then
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  Speaker 1: it's also like, did you who did you decide to save?
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  Speaker 1: And I decided to save Sannah, not Adam, but Adam
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  Speaker 1: was fine. And then I I did tell Tina. I
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  Speaker 1: told Tina about the whole everything that was going on.
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  Speaker 1: And Tina's like your friend and she's your coworker.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you told Tina.
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  Speaker 1: I told Tina.
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  Speaker 2: How did she handle that?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? Great, super great. She was very into it. She's
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  Speaker 1: very excited. I had to calm her down because she
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  Speaker 1: was so excited about it. Yeah, so you told the
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  Speaker 1: other guy?
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  Speaker 2: Mm got real weird?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, something something about him? Ims like I don't know. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay, So that's kind of where that
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  Speaker 1: one wraps up. And I so at this point, I
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  Speaker 1: had not I was still much triangle. It sounds like
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  Speaker 1: you were as well. But I think you could have
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  Speaker 1: said I want to be in a relationship, right, but yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The only one of them, the other one. Nor if
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  Speaker 2: you chose the other one, you were going to stay
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  Speaker 2: in a triangle.
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  Speaker 1: Oh really, because.
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  Speaker 2: There's no way to truly choose him, except like you
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  Speaker 2: keep choosing him, but they don't really like it's still
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  Speaker 2: the other dude.
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  Speaker 1: Right, interesting? Okay, all right, so Part three, here's the summary.
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  Speaker 1: A string of kidnappings takes over Wayhaven, and once more
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  Speaker 1: you're called into help when it quickly becomes apparent there's
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  Speaker 1: more happening than what's on the surface. Even worse, when
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  Speaker 1: the kidnappers focus, it turns towards you, and you are
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  Speaker 1: the only one who has the power to deal with them.
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  Speaker 1: It's time for bids to be placed. And my description
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  Speaker 1: of this one was, there's a bounty on you.
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  Speaker 2: Such a good description, Thank you, good teaser.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's such a good trope. It's true, and yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's no offense, but it is very it
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  Speaker 1: is kind of very Twilight and it is very it's
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  Speaker 1: got those tropes you see a lot. I love the
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  Speaker 1: whole blood Drive aspect because I'm like, I feel like
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  Speaker 1: you could get out of this in so many other ways.
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  Speaker 1: But all right, it became a big deal because it
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  Speaker 1: was like required of you, your character to give blood.
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  Speaker 1: It was a big plot point. But you can't get
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  Speaker 1: blood because your blood is special and what's going to happen? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: So it was like this whole thing about how you're
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  Speaker 1: going to avoid giving blood. It's like, I feel like
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  Speaker 1: there's other ways we could have been.
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  Speaker 2: There's so many things that I'll like huh mm hmm.
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  Speaker 2: And I am a middle ground player, are you where
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  Speaker 2: I try to stay neutral of like conflicts between the
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  Speaker 2: captain and the mayor, so any conflicts, I'm trying to
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  Speaker 2: stay in the middle mm hmmm.
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  Speaker 1: I think in general, I am because I want to
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  Speaker 1: see because usually it gives you, like the option to
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  Speaker 1: choose one side or be neutral, and I usually try
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  Speaker 1: to do the neutral one first and then see what
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  Speaker 1: happens and then I'll go back. But I feel like
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  Speaker 1: I picked the over I picked the captain over the
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  Speaker 1: mayor about the like let's go flashy or let's not
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  Speaker 1: go flashy about advertising the blood drive. But yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: that was the extent of it. And it worked out fine.
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  Speaker 1: All worked that fine. I was a little concerned at
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  Speaker 1: the end, though. I have some moments I'm like, oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, this person gonna die right now. So not
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  Speaker 1: only enough, I don't have my stats for this one,
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  Speaker 1: but you do, right, I do.
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  Speaker 2: So this one I prepare because I couldn't find the
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  Speaker 2: what I was like mm hmm. I was like damn,
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  Speaker 2: and so on this one, I was like, okay, okay,
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  Speaker 2: I got the stats, so I did take pictures. I
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  Speaker 2: am a very neutral person, it seems so. Yeah. I'm
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  Speaker 2: fifty percent charming and fifty percent intimidating, fifty five percent impulsive,
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  Speaker 2: forty five percent cautious, fifty seven percent sarcastic, forty three
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  Speaker 2: percent genuine, forty five percent friendly, fifty five percent stoic.
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  Speaker 2: I am sixty three percent easygoing, thirty seven percent stubborn,
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  Speaker 2: which is probably not true in real life. So I
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  Speaker 2: am more mind traded. I'm gonna say that that fifty
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  Speaker 2: seven percent. I am fifty to fifty when it comes
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  Speaker 2: to optimism and pessimism, and I am a fifty five
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  Speaker 2: percent player. Yeah, that's me.
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  Speaker 1: That's all right.
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  Speaker 2: Those are my traits. And then I do I had
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  Speaker 2: zero combat and physical skills, We'll have eighty percent psychological
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  Speaker 2: and people skills, thirty seven deduction, twenty one science. And
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  Speaker 2: then I go buy the book forty four percent been
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  Speaker 2: the rules fifty six percent of the time. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: then the relationship part, I don't know because it only
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  Speaker 2: showed me Rebecca, and we're sixty three percent not very close.
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  Speaker 2: That's it. And then Bobby is just there reason I
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  Speaker 2: couldn't figure out the rest because, like I, I've had
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  Speaker 2: a hard time trying to figure out the stats and
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  Speaker 2: how to access everything. It's such an It's not the
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  Speaker 2: greatest system. Hey, people who do way Haven, your system's
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  Speaker 2: not great. But yeah, so I definitely am in the
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  Speaker 2: love triangle. As you had said, there are creatures that
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  Speaker 2: I was like, what's happening with these creatures? Who's these creature?
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  Speaker 2: What's happening? What is happening? It sets up for the
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  Speaker 2: next people. I saw a complaint in this one or
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  Speaker 2: they felt like the first one, the original really understood
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  Speaker 2: the big moment, the big thrill, and then like the
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  Speaker 2: coming back and as where this one was anti climactic
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  Speaker 2: in many.
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  Speaker 1: Of the ways.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, yeah, I get that, you
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  Speaker 2: get all this like attempted kidnapping and kidnapping over everybody,
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  Speaker 2: mm hmm, and then just like okay, it's over.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I did think a lot of people were
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  Speaker 1: gonna die. I mean, well that time I made my
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  Speaker 1: flawed decision. That's not what I wanted to do, but
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't go back, so Okay, my big choices. I
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  Speaker 1: chose to I befriended Douglas, and he got turned. At
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  Speaker 1: the end of Douglas, Yeah, the kid turned into what
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  Speaker 1: he got turned. They gave him the same thing they
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  Speaker 1: gave you me, the same serum, and he got serum
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  Speaker 1: from the first one. They gave him the thing. It
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  Speaker 1: just I don't know, he got turned.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. This is a completely different story from Douglas is
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  Speaker 2: barely there for me. He's trying to figure his life
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  Speaker 2: out and it's kind of sad, but that's about it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's trying to figure it out.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I ignored him essentially, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we can't keep going with this crush. You do you?
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  Speaker 1: Bye?
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: I was mostly like your father, you don't listen to him.
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  Speaker 1: And anyway, he got turned. I thought he was gonna
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  Speaker 1: die because he showed up to like help me.
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  Speaker 2: And is Murphy still alive for you.
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  Speaker 1: Or no?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I thought I wondered at the head of
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  Speaker 2: it because I don't even have I don't remember part
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  Speaker 2: of about the serum. Maybe he missed it.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe well, see we have fun different comparisons to make
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  Speaker 1: he lived, But I was like, oh god, he's dead
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  Speaker 1: and it's my fault because I have this kid. I
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  Speaker 1: was trying to be nice and now he didn't listen
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  Speaker 1: to me, and I was like, run away. Anyway. I
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  Speaker 1: meant to have Rebecca come with me. That's the choice
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  Speaker 1: I failed at. I accidentally said no. I meant to
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  Speaker 1: say yes and anyway, but she.
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  Speaker 2: Did because Rebecca comes with me.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I want to hear. I think, yes, I think
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  Speaker 1: that would I think it would have gone better if
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  Speaker 1: she had been with me. I don't think Douglas would
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  Speaker 1: have been turned and I think everyone would have been
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  Speaker 1: saved instead of most people. Oh no, oh really.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think. So he's kidnapped a lot of people.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh really, Well okay, but then that was your
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  Speaker 1: other when you're so you're like in this dungeon and
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  Speaker 1: you're tracing the bad guy the whole thing, and I
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  Speaker 1: stopped and let the people out. Yeah, I did the same,
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  Speaker 1: and so they most of them got out. I just
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  Speaker 1: think a couple of them didn't.
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  Speaker 2: So he took some of the creatures.
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  Speaker 1: Basically, this guy was kidnapping supernatural beings to sell at
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  Speaker 1: an auction, and you were one of the people.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: And then apparently all you they don't have to be alive,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: you just you can take their power. So I never
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: got a clarification where these people because the people who
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: go get kidnapped are never mentioned again except for Eldor,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: like he's the only one. But I'm like, what happened
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: to them? Anybody gonna tell me? There's a little bit
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: of holes here where they went? The little girl? Okay,
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, like, hello, anybody, so all those things. So
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: did you find out that Rebecca is a part of
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: the chamber. Was a part of the chamber?
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Yes, so she was a part of the like.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Yes, until the husband died, her father died, which by
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: the in line the tagline, oh the ending, suspenseful ending,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: It was so cheesy. I'm like, is this supposed to
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: be a play on the father's name?
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: I think so it was, absolutely, But I was just.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Like, what is happening here?
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Like it was.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: No offense because it's still a good book. Please don't
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: think I'm criticizing the writer, but it was just like
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: it was it felt like a an any level of
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: pun yeah with violence.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Yes, I find that's not an insult at all. It's welcome.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: But yeah, so because I okay, so Douglas has nothing
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: to do with me, Like I don't have anything to do
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: with him. Like he does come around every now and again,
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: not all the van pastorak growling about he needs to
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: get away from him her, and she's just like, you
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: know what, dude, you do you don't make them think
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: this way about you. You got this, go go on
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: your way. That's it. That's essentially how I go by it.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: So I don't have anything to do with it. I
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: do have Verda, who has been acting all weird. He
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: even left, took like so much time off that she
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: was concerned that he was just gonna leave and quit.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Everybodys trying to figure out fron of them. He's acting
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: very depressed, overly professional, to the point that the husband
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Verta's husband comes around. I was like, can you talk
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: to him because he's having a hard time, and turns
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: out his husband is a supernatural Oh, so he gets
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: really upset and he's like, please come and talk to him,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: because I don't want this to be a thing. So
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: she goes to have dinner with Verda and the family
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: and brings Nate, the very nice vampire, to explain everything
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: for him, and he feels much better, to the point
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: that I was like, is he a part of the kidnappers?
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Is he a trapper? Like I was very concerned that
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Verda was a bad guy, but it turns out he wasn't.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: He just really was upset. I don't think the husband
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: ever tells him in this book that he's a supernatural,
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: and I don't know what kind of supernatural he was.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: And then the next thing I thought was that he
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: was gonna get kidnapped. Yeah, he does not yet, So
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: whatever happened there, but everything is fixed. Verda is back
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: to his normal self and even considering going to work
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: for the agency.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, Oh interesting. Okay, so I did the opposite
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: where I told Tina right, and she becomes like your
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: good non supernatural friend that you can just talk to
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: stuff about. You go to dinner with her. I also
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: brought Nate, and you find that she is being followed
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: by someone from the agency who I'm very suspicious of.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: The Yeah, yes, I mean she seems cool and Tina's like,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: has a huge crush on her, so I don't want
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: to do about that, but she There's definitely a couple
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: of lines where I was like, wait, okay, I don't
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: know what to do about this. So that was my
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: version of it. But we had a very nice, like
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: dinner party.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: He is very also slight in the conversation, like she's
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: around and she threw a party and she very much
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: loves them. Like, but yeah, we don't have that. Verda
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: was more than involved them for sure.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Interesting.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: The other thing is there's like a character in the
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: third one named Sin who's kind of like an ancient,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: very powerful being that is being controlled by the main villain.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: But he is attacking you when like kidnapping people. And
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: in the end I convinced him to like do his
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: own thing. Oh you off?
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I could not convince him.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: I tried, well, I mean what happened on your side.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: He came back to protect the bad guy and said,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: if you fall, I'm gonna take him out of town.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: If you follow us, I'll have no no recourse but
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: to attack you. So don't follow us. And she's like,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: I'm glad, you're okay. I was. You know, you can
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: go away, and he's not believing her. I wonder where
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: I went wrong.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Well, I basically mine kind of came down to you.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: I had the choice. He came back and he was like,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know, he's so genuine because.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: You asked how he was doing. He's like, you sound
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: so genuine.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: I did at one point, but I didn't. At that point,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: I was like, why are you back?
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: I said, I'm glad to see you're okay. That's how
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: it starts out from me.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I said, why are you back? And then he
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: was there's like two options of like trying to convince
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: him to join the agency with you, and there's two
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: of like, I don't know, attack him, And there was
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: one that was like, let him do his own thing.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: And that's the one I did.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, I think I try to convince him kind of
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: an agency. So this creature is somehow tethered my old
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: magic to the bad guy who was human and can
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: do whatever whatnot. All supernaturals cannot touch him because he
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: has some kind of force field or something protect but
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: she can. She and they think it may be an
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: illusion all these things. So she's able to hurt him
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: and kick him and blah blah blah. I'm trying to Yeah,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: that's interesting. Because I could not convince him, he goes away,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: and so the bad guy gets away because I chose
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: that same route, like I'll dry rather use the people,
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: there's no way, even though Rebecca did not approve and yes, breath.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: So I did have Rebecca helping because we talked about
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: this being the difference. I did have her helping. Knowing
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: that the supernaturals couldn't get close had a little pin.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to wait on her to do something to
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: get to the free the people, but it never really happens,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: never really happens. Eldor's there, and so finally I try
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: to stretch out the auction by asking questions about the
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: product quote unquote, and everybody gets super suspicious and then
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: all hell brace loose. So essentially that's what happens. But
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Rebecca's fine. She finally does get up a few of them,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: and then that's what we see. And then Rebecca, uh,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: I can't remember, oh you know, does the whole like,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: I get why you did it, but this was our thing.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Will have to go find them, find as many trappers
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: as possible, YadA, YadA YadA. And then she gets offered
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: a job right right, which I decided to take, did
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: you I did, but it gave me like a vibe
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: like I shouldn't have. Yeah, I just felt like I
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: was already kind of working on the team. I was
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: cous like she was full time. I was like, wait,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: wasn't she always I'm confused.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So basically at the end, Rebecca, who again is
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: your mom, the character's mom that you're playing, who did
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: miss her job as part of the you know, like
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: higher ups, but also didn't regret it. Really, it's like, hey,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: they want you to have this job on Unit Bravo,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: which is the vampire she's been like pretty much living with,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: and you have the option. You have like a bunch
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: of options. It kind of boiled down to yes, no
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: because I want a better relationship with you, and or
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: I don't want to work for you because she controls
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: that she's in charge of them, and then three I
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: don't trust this whole thing. So I said yes. But
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: then afterwards it was like, okay, okay, I don't think
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: anybody was really that happy about Yeah.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: I did have a bunch of people try to convince
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: me not to, like they came over to talk to me,
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: and then Felix came over and talked to me. And
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: at this point, you choose who your best friend is,
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: and I chose Felix.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, I was fair. I don't even Felix.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: No, all of mine are men, and I don't know why.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Maybe because I said that I was heterosexual. I don't know.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: And so all of my own men, Felix and Mason
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: are the all characters, and Felix came. My option is
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: going to be is that this is going to be
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: your new best friend in or Felix, and I'm like, Felix.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Man, I totally forgot about it. I second my story
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: that little Mine was between Farah and Morgan.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so that's the girl versions.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: I guess.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know why I have all men. Did I
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: choose that the first one? I don't think I did.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: I think I'll went back in trying to find others
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: because I guess they want you to try when I
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: get too overwhelmed with too many options. Yeah, two is enough,
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: No for sure.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I mean I literally deliberate. It's embarrassing how long I am, like,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: what if I said this? But it could like this,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: That's why it took me so long ago.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was quite funny. Yeah, and then the
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: playing the random game. Never have I ever?
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Yes, I was like, what is this?
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: And then the random questions and it lets you choose
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: to take a drink or not. Yeah, it's like, okay,
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: so the drink. The first question was like being nosy
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: with your neighbors or spying on your neighbors, and I
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: was like, what I.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Was trying to remember if, like literally I had done
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: that in the game. I can't remember, So I.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Don't think I falling on top of you, which I
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: was like, probably would have been injured. What is happening here?
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: There's so many questions, but yes, yeah, so I had
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: that moment with the love triangle. So I have the
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: love triangle with Adam and Nate, and like I said,
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: I tried to just go with Adam, and everything I
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: would choose was with Adam, and it just kept having
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Nate give me the looks or Nate coming up. But
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: like situations with the dinner, obviously I'm not taking Adam,
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: who was angry and like surly, like that's definitely not
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: going to be the option when I'm trying to ease somebody, right,
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: I was really hoping Felix was going to be an option,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: but it wasn't. It was natter Adam, So I definitely
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: did that, and then like I did try to cape
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: up some of the things, but like not some of
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: the things. So I didn't do the long, prolonged hugs
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: or the flirty comments. I didn't really do the flirty
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: comments with Adam either. It was more of the shy
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: kind of comments, like we went driving. It's y'all go driving.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: I can't wait to compare notes because it does do
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: this because I went with Nates and it does it
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: with Adam. Yeah, and I one time he was so
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: bummed and he was like, I really need to talk
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: to him. He was like, okay, buddy, and then he
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: told me his whole life story. I was like, oh
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: my god, sir.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: So I get the life story also from Adam and
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: he tells it to me on the drive. So yeah,
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: so I tried. But like there was an option where
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: if you kiss at Nate, which there was an option
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: the first second one too at the end, and I
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: didn't because it says still start a relationship. I was like, well,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: not really that and this one it gives you another
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: option to do it to start a relationship, and I
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: was like, Nope, not ready for that. So I said
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: no on that one too, and gave him a kiss
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: on the cheek.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Yes, so I have discovered through this. I was like,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: oh god, you have a real thing commitment. But also
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: I just like didn't want to play anybody. I didn't
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: want to hurt anybody's feelings and I was afraid like that.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: It was very like, this will begin the relationship, and
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh no, with Nate, with both of
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: them all the time.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you had options of beginning a relationship with Adam. Yeah,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: oh I've never gotten that option.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: I did have it, and I kept putting it off
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: because I was like, I kind of enjoy more of
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: the build up than the right We talked about that.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: I think in our shipping episode, right right, I like
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: that part. But then I just felt like asshole, to
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: be honest, because they kept like they give the hurt
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: looks if you've chose the other one. Fair came to
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: talk to me and was like, just no, this isn't
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: just affecting you and I'm not trying to do anything here.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: And so one of the big decisions I had, which
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: is such a trope. I love it though, but it
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: the like because I originally chose in the first one,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: you have kind of it's a very popular video game option,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: but you have are you going to be kind of
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: the like research technological one? Are you going to do combat?
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: And I chose research me too. The third one was
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: like are you still going to do that? Or you
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: want to learn combat? And I was like, I guess
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: I'll do combat. I didn't like, who are you gonna
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: spar with? And it was like this guy this time,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: I was like, no, because they're going to turn it
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: to sexy stuff, because it's ats what always happens, barring.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: I just want to learn come back.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: It's become a romantic decision. It has, it has. It
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: is very interesting to me, like the popularity of the
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Love of Triungle, which I totally get. It's a nice,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: like escapist idea of oh I'm so desired, I've got
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: these options, you know. But it was funny how many
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: times I was much more like I just don't want
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: to hurt his feelings. I don't know how this has
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: happened to me, but after the dinner party, I found like, no,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: I'm going to start this relationship because I feel so
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: guilty about this whole thing.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: That's funny in a video in a go I guess yes,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: a game.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: I do I've told you before, I can't. There are
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: games I've played a million times and I cannot do
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: I cannot get the other ending because it's too mean
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: to get to that ending. I can't do it. It is
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: I mean. I had a good time, but I was
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: expecting I told you. I guess I'm just not wise
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: to the ways of romance. But I thought, Okay, I've
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: started this relationship. Now I'll go talk to them and
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: I'll be like, Okay, I'm sorry, man, but this is
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: what's happening. That never happened. And it ended with me
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: sitting in between both of them, and it's clear that
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: it's still going on in the triangle. And I was like, wait,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: they drink.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Never have I ever did you date? Yeah?
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Have you fallen for a coworker?
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Have you ever? Yeah? Have you ever had feelings for
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: a coworker?
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Yes? And they both took a drink. I don't think
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: I did, even though I was like, probably should. I
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: don't think that let you No, it doesn't give you
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: the after, does give.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: You an option. There was something in which someone did
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: half a drink Felix. I think it was Felix in
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: question or that's just half a sip. They're like, what
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: is that?
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Maybe another will enter the ring. I did, but I
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: did start to think about that because once you agree
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: to work on the team, I was like, well, what
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: it's true, I'm working with these people that clearly there's
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: a lot of romance going on, and what is that
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: gonna look like?
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: They just keep talking about how they're family.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in general, like I get why people take coworkers.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: It makes sense to me, but it is a very
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: I would never. It's a risky I would never. It's
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: a risky proposition. But I also am kind of like, again,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: I thought this was the last one, so I had assumed.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: We would have a happily ever after or sadly.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Ever like I would have picked the guy. I did
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: think Nate was gonna die at one point when he
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: bust in. It didn't look good, but I thought it
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: was gonna be resolved. And then I kept I told you,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: I was like, are they trying to get me a cheat?
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Like what is this? But it's true. I mean you
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: do have a conversation in my case, Therah, probably for
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: you Felix where they're like, yeah, love is really messy
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: and it doesn't always work out and they keep making
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: these illusions till carts splitting into.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: Man White. Get Adam's story of like, you know, he
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: did it his way, so everybody dies. So that's why
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: I can't love anybody. I'm like, I assume that he
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: killed them accidentally, or his love for someone killed somebody.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: But instead it was just like his He was prideful
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: and trying to defend his family, and they all die.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: I don't understand. Am I missing something in this story?
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I've gotten I got, I got,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: I got a lot of the backstories. Uh now I've
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: gonna can't.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Remember Nate doesn't have. I don't have Nate's backstory.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: He gave me some of it. I feel like a
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: lot of it came in that I didn't realize it
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: was such a fateful decision. But in the decision, we
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: didn't go on a car ride. We went to like
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: a bench in.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Chat and right, So Adam was washing a car that
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: he has had for years, and he's like, let's go
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: take a drive, and she's like okay, And so they
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: take a drive and then they go to a park
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: and sit. Uh So I assume, if you chose Nate
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: is the one that she ran into Ye, there's something
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: else that they would have done. I would maybe go
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: to the library. But yeah, so I didn't get any
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: of Nate's story, which is interesting to me. I got
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Felix's story, which I'm sure you got. Felix's story, Yeah,
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: well about his mom.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: If I did, it was in one. I literally don't
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: remember him in two and three at all.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: It's in the third one. I just read it. It's
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: about his mom's a witch.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: I think that's fair for me. Fair, that's what I'm saying.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry when I say Farah Felix, I'm talking about Pharaoh.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes, they're the same persons. It's just that
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: makes me feel Okay, I didn't realize you didn't know
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: is whatever gender you have, like they have chosen far
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: and Felix are the same people.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: That makes me I was like, I don't for this
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: guy at all.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Oh wow, okay, And all the listeners are like, what
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: the heck is happening here? What is to this club?
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Sorry y'all, but yeah, no, Faarah is Felix, Morgan is Mason,
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: like too inentertageable people's So when I say Felix, I'm
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: talking about fair for you.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, yes, so that makes so much more sense.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, did you get their backstory?
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Yes? Okay?
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: And about the witch?
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: Okay? Yeah.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So those are the only two that I know
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: because Morgan slash Mason still very like. I don't know
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: anything about him other than he's very stoic and sad
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: and hates humans.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It was funny because I really tried to go
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: for Morgan for a while and the first one and
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: now we would never have worked out. But he's too
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: surly for me. Yeah, but I do feel bad because
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: I want to hear a friend and we are we
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: are friends.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Did you try to choose You should have tried to
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: chose him as the best friend her.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: I could have, but I just felt like Fair and
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: I were a more natural fit.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just nicer slash Felix.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but we had a good moment. There's an interrogation scenehere.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: We have to work with Morgan slash Mason and I.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: We had a good time. We worked together well, The
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: interrogation went well.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Was the family No, it was.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: A trapper we caught Yeah?
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, gay m.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Hm, did you do the did you split the party?
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: There's a part where it's like, are you gonna split up?
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Oh? No, anything else smart? She has a lot of guilt,
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: h did you split the party? So what happened when you?
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: So there's a section readers love what the so? So
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: in these sections you have different options. Obviously, there's a
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: section when you find out that there are three kidnappings
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: happening at once and you try to find the best
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: decision there's been. They're all in the progress at the
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: same time, and so two of them suggests going splitting up,
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: trying to get the best odds. A one of them
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: say we should just do one because they know that
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: this is probably a trap because they'd already fallen for
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: one trap. So she makes the decision. And I made
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: the decision that even though she didn't want to, but
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: she would follow Adam's lead, who said that at least
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: save one because it might be too late for everybody else,
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: and as long as we can concentrate together, at least
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: we can save the one. And she didn't have time
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: to argue, so she's like, fine, we'll do it. In
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: which is it Nate, No, I think it's Felix who's
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: like slash Pharah, like, are you okay with that at
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: one point, so we decide. I decided that yes, I
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: will agree with Adam's plan and go and get the
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: one and we stay together. We saved the boy who
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: did not care, but it was obvious that it was
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: a trap for her. M hm. So you split him up.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: I split him up. I split him up, and it
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: was There are several decisions where it was kind of comical.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's how you're reading it, because
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: then Adam was like, oh, look at that. She's so sexy.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: I was like, wait what But anyway, we split up
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: and Barah was like, yeah, it's good. Adam feels so
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: guilty about making these decisions, but he does it because
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: he knows he wants to take the guilt away from us.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: It's a hard time and all that stuff, but we
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: save two.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: We say too, oh man, damn it.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah that was a tough because I also was like
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: splitting the parties.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: Bed never split up, but now turned out.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: But I think every decision though has like the bad
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: weight could have gone yeah, because I did have to decide,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: like what, I had to fight these chapps by myself,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: and I had decide what to do. And I think
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: that could have gone very wrong.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: So what did you decide to do?
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: I did I use like my weapon, my technology skills,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: and I basically threw a gas bomb at them and
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: they passed out.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, because this is the one. Did you have a
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: weapon that they used against the vault? Yeah, so I
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: went it was like a ball.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: I think we did the same thing.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I went and grabbed it and busted it and
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: thenssed out. Oh yeah, because they vaulted me like they
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: all were, like all the vampires were like falling apart.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Am I getting this confused? I'm in the first trap.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: I can't remember, y'all.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: I love this. Oh well it was escape?
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, yes, yes, so apparently once again,
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: this is a longer series. Like I think I read
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: at one point like seven books. There may have been
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: twelve books coming out. I didn't know this. I was like,
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: is this gonna be a George rr Martin type of
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: thing for those who actually do read these? And this
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: one took a very long time to come out.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And it ended with a pretty big like
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: a lot of loosens.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Yes, obviously a very lot of loosens, including the father
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Somewhere in the play I think feelix slash Farre's mom's
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: going to come into play, because she just doesn't. She
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: just disappears. Uh huh, So I don't know. I'm trying
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: to look up to see if they have any updates
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: about the four release. It says he usually tastes about
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: two years between books. Who so this was just released
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: this year. M hmm, So it might be a lot.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: It might be a while before we know how our
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: triangles will play out.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Well, it's gonna be a long while because if there's
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: like ten bucks still happening, just then, it's like we've
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: led out what's going on.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Isn't that a thought? Can I ask? Did you ever do?
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Because it has an option to have sex scene and
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: you have to fade scene. Oh my gosh, so you
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: did it.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: I have no idea what you're talking about. I am
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: thoroughly confused.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Now wait, but you're still not in a relationship. No, okay.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: I got into the relationship with Anna with Nate, and
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: I got into it right after the dinner party. And
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: after you get injured, like pretty severely, Nate comes to
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: take care of you. But you can't choose it to
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: be Adam, But I just need because I was at
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: a relationship and he comes and he like distracts you
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: and tries to make you feel better and then at
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: one point make you feel better. Well, so you're playing
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: pool and then it gets a little like hot under
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: the collar. You have like four options and it's like no,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: six and two of them are like, you have sex?
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Do you want the details or do you want to
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: fade to black?
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Did you fade to black?
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: Oh no, I just kissed him. I was like, whoa,
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: I got like broken rams. I'm pretty sure it's not.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: No, I did not get to that at all. Again,
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: I didn't like, I'm pretty determined to be with Adam.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: I will not let me be with Adam. So I
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: am very thoroughly confused. I will say I think I'm
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: flirting with Nate a little too much, I guess, and
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: like trusting, like because he's such a nice guy. But yeah, no,
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: I did not. I really thought this was gonna be
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: a PG all the way through.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: Oh no, it but I did like at it was
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: like do you want the details there? Do you want
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: to fake?
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: That's a nice way to do it. Yeah, it's very interesting. Well,
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: I'm very okay. I'm also interested in this, like, yeah,
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: this must be really difficult to write, to have to
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: like write so many variations, like I say this in
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: the teasing manner of like two years, but to have
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: to like go through each decision and then find six
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: different options and so therefore you have six different ways,
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: which you and I talked about in our book of
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: making It an activity, a whole chapter of To your
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: Own Adventure where alls and disasters. I was really sad,
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: can't trying to like work it out, like no, this
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: is not gonna work well, but like and then trying
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: to actually do it. We were like we could only
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: do a chapter. There's no way we could do more
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: than like a five page chetter.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I can't imagine, And I mean it
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: reminds me of dungeons and dragons in some ways, but
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: at least like I can do that some of that
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: improv like yeah, okay, they did this, I'll come quick.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: You don't have to go ahead and write it all out.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Exactly, and so I sort of have like a vague okay,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: but I don't have to write it all down. But
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: then Adam and Nate got in a big fight after
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: that about it, which I find interesting when they cut
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: away from you as the character.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they talk about it.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was kind of like, oh, I think
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: this is going to boil over.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: Obviously that's what Pharah slash Felix is telling you.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: I know, but it was like, oh, you guys, I
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: don't think I should have joined the team. They were
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: pretty upset.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: It was a fight, but there wasn't a fight. It
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: was just an argument and Adam quickly backs down.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: For me, it was a fight, but it was just
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: like it was sort of their whole thing of like,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: I want to protect her too. I want to protect her, dude, Okay,
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: you guys. I do also like it's such a trope
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: that the whole thing of the the bad guy sends
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: you an outfit, Yeah.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: The black and gold card. Yes, the perfect slinky outfit
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: that you.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: You have to wear to come events. Yes.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: And then you have a compliment one yes, yes, depending
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: on who we choose.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: And then I will say there was like a theme
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: of trauma because you can have moments where you have
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: flashbacks or just how you're dealing with all of the
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: stuff that's happened to you in this wild couple of
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: months that these take place in. So I thought that
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: was interesting. The relationship with your mother's Yeah. Also interesting
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: that she had a flashback about that. Yeah. Yeah, And
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: that was a big, a big part of the third
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: one was like, how are you gonna work together? How
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: are you gonna move on with your relationship with her
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: or not? So we'll see, I have fun. I was
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: all up in there. I get so hung up on
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: these decisions.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: Some of the difficulty. Again, I'm very neutral. There's a
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: lot of nods it shows, which is why I think
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: I'm mainly stoic.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: I'm very like yeah.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: And like touching but not touching looking but kind of looking.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It does have a lot of the you almost
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: kiss but don't are like you think about it but
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: turn away. Yes, And I did that as long as
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: I could. But I felt terrible about myself.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: And I still keep going with it, apparently because I
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: can't choose that.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: Interesting. Interesting, interesting. Well. Once again thanks to Amanda for
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: bringing these to her attention. They have been found for
• 50:00
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• 50:03
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• 50:07
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• 50:10
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• 50:12
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• 50:25
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• 50:28
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• 50:36
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• 50:38
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