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How DONE Are The Oklahoma Sooners & Brent Venables? (S2 E51) · Sooner or Later Sports

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  Speaker 2: So on to day's episode.
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  Speaker 1: We got a lot of things to talk about, like
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  Speaker 1: an abysmal loss and just.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of how everything fell apart.
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  Speaker 1: We'll give you our thoughts on both offense and defense,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll keep it abut we'll talk about a few
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  Speaker 1: positive things, and we'll wrap things up, of course, like
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  Speaker 1: we always do with your fan thoughts.
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  Speaker 2: Coop.
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  Speaker 1: Happy Sunday, my man, How are you mentally and physically well?
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  Speaker 3: a damn year off. So that's something good. You got
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  Speaker 3: gotta look for the good things in life, man, There's
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  Speaker 3: lots of good stuff out here. Unfortun we just we
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  Speaker 3: just saw the last two minutes of that game were
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  Speaker 3: pretty much the microcosm of our season.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, because it's funny to say. That's funny, say the
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  Speaker 1: microcosm of the season. Because Coop I was looking at this,
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  Speaker 1: the defense, in my opinion, played fifty two minutes of
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  Speaker 1: fantastic football. Yeah, the defense played fifty two minutes of
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  Speaker 1: fantastic football. I did a screencap, I looked at my
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  Speaker 1: I opened up my laptop because I closed it close it.
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  Speaker 1: In the third quarter, I was like, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: I think, I'm gonna go ahead and uh, just go
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  Speaker 1: ahead and just you know, not send messages like I was.
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  Speaker 1: And then in the fourth quarter when things happened, I
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  Speaker 1: did anyway, but third quarter close.
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  Speaker 2: It opened it up and.
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  Speaker 1: I looked at the screen cap. I'm gonna tell you
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  Speaker 1: what the screen cap says, Coop. Hi to all of
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  Speaker 1: you in the chat, yep, I know everybody's hurting, everybody's
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  Speaker 1: in pain, all of you are upset. I totally get it.
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  Speaker 1: This is what I saw when I looked at it, Coop.
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  Speaker 1: This is what baffled me. We was twelve minutes and
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  Speaker 1: seventeen seconds left in the third quarter. Missouri had the ball.
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  Speaker 1: Missouri had twenty three yards passing in sixty nine yards
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  Speaker 1: rushing so far, we had eighty six yards passing and
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  Speaker 1: forty four yards rushing in. Our quarterback, who had thrown
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  Speaker 1: the ball thirteen times, was tied in yards at forty
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  Speaker 1: three with our punter, who only threw one pass. That
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  Speaker 1: is that, Like you said, last two minutes is the
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  Speaker 1: microcosmo of our entire season. Everything has basically just fallen
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  Speaker 1: apart at the end. Unfortunately, it's been bad. Now I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna say this too. I saw a lot of fielver
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  Speaker 1: linings in there. Because I have now looked at twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty five, I am good on twenty twenty four. Shot
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  Speaker 1: of the season. I'm looking at twenty twenty five and
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  Speaker 1: when I look down there, Coop saw something. So start
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  Speaker 1: off with your initial thoughts. I will let you have
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  Speaker 1: the table first. As I talked about the fifty two
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  Speaker 1: minutes of good defense, how you feel.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I pull up the defensive ratings for twenty
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  Speaker 3: twenty two, just two years ago. We have more than
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  Speaker 3: cut those stats in half, and so, like it's it's
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  Speaker 3: unfrustrated because this defense has done everything in their I mean,
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  Speaker 3: this is it's one thing if like your offense is
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  Speaker 3: really good and your defense is just literal horsecrap, and
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  Speaker 3: like because the door effort, yeah effort, revolving door or whatever. Like,
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  Speaker 3: this defense has grinded out so much. And I hate
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  Speaker 3: the fact that like the two or three plays that
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  Speaker 3: they give up, you know, in a game. You know,
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  Speaker 3: it like reflects poorly how many games of our defense
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  Speaker 3: given up, given up two scores and our offense assisted
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  Speaker 3: in two or three more. And so so yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: mean it's just I mean, you look at it. You're
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  Speaker 3: starting the season with all the injuries, and it just
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  Speaker 3: continues to keep on happening, you know, Dion Burke's concussion
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  Speaker 3: again yesterday. So so yeah, here's the thing is we
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  Speaker 3: got the season's over. I mean outside of a outer
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  Speaker 3: body experience game from Jackson like Trevor Knight had, you know,
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  Speaker 3: against Alabama. Out side of something like that, it's I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it's it's done. I mean it like, this season is not.
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  Speaker 3: You're not playing for anything. You just literally have to
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  Speaker 3: go out there. And I won't won't take your your
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  Speaker 3: words directly from you, but there's I mean, you're you're
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  Speaker 3: playing for a spot on a team next year, you're
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  Speaker 3: playing for NFL draft positioning, and then you're trying to
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  Speaker 3: put some film on and so you're you're going to
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  Speaker 3: see the offensive side of the ball just absolute gutted
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  Speaker 3: over the season. And everybody is frustrated right now, right everybody,
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  Speaker 3: because we actually got back to a spot to where
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  Speaker 3: we believe that we could win a game. And yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so I mean it's I'm not going to I'm not
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  Speaker 3: going to say that, I'm not going to say that
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  Speaker 3: like this, I'm not going to watch next week's game
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  Speaker 3: or I guess Alabama in two I'm not gonna like
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  Speaker 3: I'm still going to watch those games and I'll probably
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  Speaker 3: emotionally be invested about like I was verget Ole missed
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  Speaker 3: where I was just like, let's see what might happen.
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  Speaker 2: But I it's.
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  Speaker 3: It's just frustrating. It's just frustrating. I mean, it's just
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  Speaker 3: like that's the that's the word, is frustrating, because you know,
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  Speaker 3: we I saw plays in during fall camp. I saw
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  Speaker 3: a film from fall Camp. But all that goes out
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  Speaker 3: the line when you've got way too many scenarios to overcome.
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  Speaker 3: And we had the injuries, the poor coaching on offense,
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  Speaker 3: poor recruiting from a couple of years prior, a couple
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  Speaker 3: of situations here and there on transfer portal that didn't
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  Speaker 3: go right. But yeah, I mean it's this is not
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  Speaker 3: what anybody wanted to see. Nobody wanted to see, you know.
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  Speaker 3: It's not like the SEC has kicked our ass. It's
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  Speaker 3: a conglomeration of everything. And like I said, my silver lining,
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  Speaker 3: this would be the last thing I say. My silver lining,
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  Speaker 3: Jay is I think that through the injuries and everything
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  Speaker 3: that we went through this year, it fast forwarded us
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  Speaker 3: making a decision they were correct away on offense. Because
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  Speaker 3: let's just be honest, if if we didn't have the
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  Speaker 3: receiver injuries and we were just stumbling through. You know,
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  Speaker 3: let's be honest. I mean, if the receivers would never
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  Speaker 3: get hurt, maybe we have two more wins, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's it's just as frustrating. But at least with this,
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  Speaker 3: you know that you can completely just piss everything else
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  Speaker 3: off and start over next year on offense with a
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  Speaker 3: complete new staff. But I think this, you know, current
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  Speaker 3: staff is still here next year if all these injuries
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  Speaker 3: didn't happen to the wide receiver group and maybe the
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  Speaker 3: offensive line. So I'm not in a fire bb crowd.
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  Speaker 3: But I also wouldn't argue against it at this point
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  Speaker 3: because I don't know if there's a there's a fair
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  Speaker 3: argument against it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to figure out who you're gonna replace
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  Speaker 1: them with. That's really my big question. And it's funny
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  Speaker 1: because I'm in I'm in that same boat. I am
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  Speaker 1: in the give the next year, give give one more year.
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  Speaker 1: The injuries are something that no coach would survive. And
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  Speaker 1: it's not just like it was.
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  Speaker 2: It was. It was like a.
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  Speaker 1: Massive, just whole circle of offensive dudes. And then as
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  Speaker 1: the season progressed, you start to lose defensive guys in game.
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  Speaker 1: That's the case, you get one more. But the hiring
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  Speaker 1: of Cept Latrail was on you. You definitely get all
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  Speaker 1: the blame for that in the in the name of continuity.
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  Speaker 1: It didn't work, and it's obvious that it there. The
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  Speaker 1: Arizona game was obviously a mirage, let's just put it
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  Speaker 1: that way, because that was the game you actually that
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  Speaker 1: was the game where you measured what you thought you
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  Speaker 1: were going to get out of the trip. So that
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  Speaker 1: was a mirage. And then it just fell apart from there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: dealing with all those injuries, Yeah, it.
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  Speaker 2: Just it just it was just brutal for me. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not on the BV needs to be fired trained, but
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  Speaker 2: I am just like you. If you got fired, it
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't bother me.
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  Speaker 1: I still like the fact that our defense actually played
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  Speaker 1: fifty two minutes of really good football. Then you had
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  Speaker 1: eight minutes spread out, especially the last two that were doggy.
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  Speaker 1: Do last two minutes were awful, the decisions that were
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  Speaker 1: made on that. I've got a video coming out tomorrow
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  Speaker 1: morning around each position group, so I'm not gonna spoil
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  Speaker 1: it for you all, but I've got something on each
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  Speaker 1: coach and my thoughts behind each one watch that tomorrow morning.
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  Speaker 1: But Coop, let's get on thoughts from both sides of
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  Speaker 1: the ball. Just kind of go through. We'll do a
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  Speaker 1: similar to the way Gabe and Teddy does over there'll
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  Speaker 1: come a breakdown.
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  Speaker 2: Keep the conversational. I think that's fun because it's literally.
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  Speaker 1: Our job as fans like you all that have a platform,
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  Speaker 1: as a lot of you like us, in which we
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  Speaker 1: appreciate you like us. Actually saw Mets one of you,
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  Speaker 1: got your name. My apologies. I met you at Cracker
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  Speaker 1: Barrel in Shawnee. It was awesome to meet you in person.
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  Speaker 1: Because we have this platform and a lot of you
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  Speaker 1: guys actually like us, guys and gals like us, it's
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  Speaker 1: our obligation to go ahead and go through this game.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: We need to go ahead and start looking at twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty five because that's actually where I'm at. So if
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  Speaker 1: it bothers you that your boy has a little pep
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  Speaker 1: in his step, a little smile on his face, my bad, yo.
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  Speaker 1: I told y'all in my recap video. I'm not even
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  Speaker 1: reading much of the comments besides our live people.
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  Speaker 2: So we appreciate y'all.
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  Speaker 1: But I'll say this too, there's one thing I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to make I need to make mention of before we
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  Speaker 1: start talking about both sides of the ball. If you
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  Speaker 1: come into my comments section with disgusting comments.
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  Speaker 2: You will be bad.
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  Speaker 1: There was one person floating around social media, and I
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  Speaker 1: actually saw some comments in some of these videos.
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  Speaker 2: The good thing.
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  Speaker 1: Is YouTube's really good at deleting or holding comments for
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  Speaker 1: review before they're actually put out. Certain ones based upon
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  Speaker 1: certain words and stuff. Nothing that I chose. YouTube chose,
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  Speaker 1: especially those that spam really hard, and there was some
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  Speaker 1: nasty stuff in there in my health for review. I
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  Speaker 1: just want y'all to know that this is a game
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  Speaker 1: played by eighteen to twenty three year olds, and if
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  Speaker 1: you're unlucky, it's twenty six year olds.
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  Speaker 2: This is a game played by young people.
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  Speaker 1: Why are you in my comment section talking about Brent
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  Speaker 1: Venable's wife? Why are you in my comment section talking
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  Speaker 1: about how we need to end certain players and not
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  Speaker 1: in a cut them way I would appreciate. And you're
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  Speaker 1: probably gonna watch this later. You're probably in there out
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  Speaker 1: there somewhere, you anonymous person.
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  Speaker 2: Don't be disgusting like that. Be better, Please be better.
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  Speaker 1: It's pretty gross, and that bothered the heck out of
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  Speaker 1: me when I saw it float around social media first,
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  Speaker 1: and then I went into my comments and saw some
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  Speaker 1: in the health of review.
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  Speaker 2: That's just disgusting.
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  Speaker 1: Those people have already been banned, they got burner accounts,
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  Speaker 1: they'll probably come back.
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  Speaker 2: Don't do that. Please, don't do that. Now. Let's talk ball, Coop,
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk.
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  Speaker 1: Bob first and foremost some about the offensive Sidey now
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  Speaker 1: talking to me, just thought about why should we start with.
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  Speaker 2: The negativity in the world. Why shouldn't we start with
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  Speaker 2: the positive feelings?
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  Speaker 1: Because there was some positive spots on defense and Coop,
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  Speaker 1: i'mna be honest, I'm actually excited about our defense next season.
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  Speaker 1: I feel really bad for Stutsman. I feel really bad
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  Speaker 1: for Bowman in a way, feel bad for Woody because
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  Speaker 1: that holding call was absurd, but whatever.
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  Speaker 2: I feel bad for das.
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  Speaker 1: Malone, who's a senior, right. I feel bad for Dejon
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  Speaker 1: Terry are super senior that.
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  Speaker 2: They had to take a defense that was doing really
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  Speaker 2: good stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And everything completely gets washed away because of fumbles. Do
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  Speaker 1: you know that we are one hundred and thirty fourth
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  Speaker 1: in the country at one hundred and thirty four teams
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  Speaker 1: and lost fumbles this season it's amazing. But Coop, defense wise, man,
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  Speaker 1: they were putting mizz in hell. Stussman was everywhere. Nineteen tackles,
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  Speaker 1: five of those solo, he was everywhere. Those assists mean
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  Speaker 1: that he was involved in the tackles, so he was everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: But I do have one complaint in those two minutes, Coop.
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  Speaker 2: Why would you.
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  Speaker 1: Why would you put five nine Eli Bowen on six
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  Speaker 1: to two the Oise when you have six two Kobe
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  Speaker 1: Johnson that could have easily kept up with them.
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  Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you.
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  Speaker 1: Have five nine Eli Bowen shadow Luther Burden so that
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  Speaker 1: six two Kobe Johnson can keep up with six to
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  Speaker 1: two the Oise.
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  Speaker 2: Coop, do you have an answer for that?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he's competitive. I don't like the you know,
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  Speaker 3: that's the thing is. I mean, it does not matter.
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  Speaker 3: You can't teach size, and I mean I'm just I'm
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  Speaker 3: just Eli Bowen's been the best cornerback on this team,
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  Speaker 3: and if he wasn't going to get it done, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know if I have a plethora of belief that
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  Speaker 3: anybody else would have done anything different. You know, we've
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  Speaker 3: seen we've seen Daz and can I get torched. So
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  Speaker 3: I mean that's what I would say, of all the
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  Speaker 3: things that I can be complaining about or frustrated about,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think that one's in my top ten. But
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  Speaker 3: but yeah, it's it's, uh, you know, again, we're sitting here,
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  Speaker 3: we're gonna pick out two or three plays on defense
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  Speaker 3: that we're frustrated with. And again, how many years ago
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  Speaker 3: were were like, if we can just hold them to thirty,
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  Speaker 3: we'll be good. And I mean, to be honest with you,
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  Speaker 3: they did better than that. So but yeah, I just say,
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  Speaker 3: Eli Bowen's been our most competitive defensive back all year long,
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  Speaker 3: and you gotta gotta go with huh.
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  Speaker 2: Because also I would not disagree with you there at all.
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  Speaker 3: So I mean, you know, because what happens if you
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  Speaker 3: throw Woody over here and he just gives it up,
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  Speaker 3: you know, then we're complaining that it was Woody yet
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  Speaker 3: again given something up? Or can I or DOZ? You know?
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  Speaker 3: And uh so again it's you know, it's just a
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  Speaker 3: spot to where you've got somebody who has demanded by
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  Speaker 3: their play and their practice to be on the field.
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  Speaker 3: And so yeah, he's, like I said, I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 3: be too frustrated on that, but.
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  Speaker 1: I have qualms from a lot of qualms from.
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  Speaker 2: The decisions on that.
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  Speaker 1: But you're right, you're what I'm saying right like like,
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  Speaker 1: but that that's kind of why I prefaced it with
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  Speaker 1: the initial statement of why wouldn't you.
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  Speaker 2: Have Kobe Johnson six too? You get him on the field.
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  Speaker 1: You're playing your young guys now, And this is I
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  Speaker 1: think there's the other thing, other preference that I want
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  Speaker 1: to throw out there for all the fans in here,
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  Speaker 1: remember this, A lot of you, not all of you,
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  Speaker 1: but a lot of you were saying we need to
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  Speaker 1: play the young guys. So we did did not go
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  Speaker 1: as well as we hope did it. I had a
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  Speaker 1: feeling I understood why certain players did not play. I
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  Speaker 1: understood why certain players did not get on the field
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  Speaker 1: the way we needed one of them too. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's why lots of mistakes. But that was why I
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  Speaker 1: was wondering, like that was my qualm. Louis Carter when
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  Speaker 1: he got out there for his four snaps, he actually
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  Speaker 1: made some impacts. The Billy Bowman hit on fourth down, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: just like y'all, I jumped out of my seat. That
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  Speaker 1: was what made me jump out. I jumped completely out
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  Speaker 1: of my seat on that. I did not think that
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  Speaker 1: a tight end was gonna once again and get billion
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: in the back of the end zone. But the defense,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Dominic had a really good game, Like he was in
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: there time you looked up, he was in there. He
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: was he was he was stopping ruins like the run
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: stuff and was solid. We helped them way under what
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: they typically perform.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: And it's funny.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Because I see my guy Ferry Murray and they're talking
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: nooids about the SEC. Doll, did y'all not see that
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: we've we've just about heeld everybody we played against the
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: SEC under their averages. But it's hard to do that
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: when your offense is literally giving you. They're giving you
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: good field positioning cool are supposed to do.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, you look at the middle of
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: the middle of the game, and that's what I was
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: over here looking at. Is you go up six to nothing,
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: you get a field goal, right you were in. I mean,
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: it's not like you drove down the field. You had
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: a drive inside after a turnover on downs where we
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: go six plays twenty seven yards, kick field goal to
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: go up six to nothing. We then go three plays
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: for five yards, three plays for thirteen yards, four plays
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: for eight yards, and turn it over undowns that gives
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: them a touchdown. We fumble the ball, which gives them
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: a touchdown. They have a fumble return for a touchdown.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: Like it's the offense. Literally, we said it's not. I mean,
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: you can't do that in this conference to where you
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: just keep on letting somebody stick around, because nobody's scared
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: that our offense is going to do anything. Left. I mean,
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: they're not going to do anything. So even if you
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: go out and you know Peyton Thorn getting just is
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: ass chewed into on the sideline and from the sideline
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: he makes a mistake, that's our last legitimate win. And
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: I think since then everybody has seen what Tennessee did
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: and goes, nope, you get a lead, Just don't put
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: yourself in any jeopardy. And I mean Missouri almost tried
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: to do it, and it's it's just it's frustrating because
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: again it's not the fact that the def I mean,
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: this is another game to we lose by seven points
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: and the defense gave up under three hundred yards total offense.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: And I think that you said at one point you
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: looked and you know, late in the fourth quarter we
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: had given up ninety three yards of offense, but your
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: defense is not going to be able to sit there
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: and hold up when your offense doesn't do anything for you.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: It's it's just like you look at it in baseball.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: You look at it in the NBA. If you are
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: throwing a no hitter and your offense has scored three
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: or four runs, you got a little bit more relaxation capability.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: But now if you are throwing a no hitter, think
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: of there was a year that Roger Clemens pitched for
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: the Astros, and I think he had a sub to era,
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: but he had like one point four yards of run
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: support or yards runs and run support, And eventually it's
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: so much more pressure. You are one play away from
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: giving away what your offense can't do at all, which
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: is score points. It's just you give up one bad
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: play and you have now got that situation to deal
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: with where it's not Jay, it's not even like we're
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: being forced to drive ninety five yards down the down
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: the field. It's legitimately like getting a first down. And
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: I think that it was Gabe said in a few
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: weeks back, is the moment that a penalty happens on
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: the offense or a negative play You're like, well, just
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: let's get all Zinger ready, because yeah, we're not. We're coming.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, punting exactly. It's just just going down.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: And for me, the defense did as much as they
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: possibly could until the last two minutes of the game.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, why don't you feel like.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: In the world where we have a lot of people going,
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: I kind of see what's going on here. I'm out,
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: I'm going to the transfer portal, screw your team. I'm
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: bouncing like that is now a little bit more okay.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: And you look and you see guys like Danny Stutsman
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: who are out there not one hundred percent what he
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: ended up with a career. Highe nineteen tackles? Was that
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: what it was?
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Stutsman?
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, nineteen tackles. Ethan Down's out there, not one hundred percent.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: He's going, Billy, you know he's he's doing it too.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: He's out there, you know, working his butt off too.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: But listen, it's it's crazy that this defense can be
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: the best defense that we've had in over ten years,
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: fifteen years, and you're literally going, it's all for nothing.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: It's I mean, it's absolutely for nothing. And so I
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: hate that for the I hate that for these guys,
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: because if I had a nagging hammy, I would not
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: you know, I would not say, hey, Danny, I need
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: you out there for sixty seventy snaps this week. I
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: would I would be like, Danny, you tell me what
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: you need. I don't want you to get hurt. I
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: want you to be able to go off into the
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: sunset and go to the NFL. But I don't want
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: you running out here getting hurt when these last two
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: games for nothing.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't. I don't expect that at all.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: We can't talk about the screen room. They're gonna play.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: They're gonna play that. This is these last two games
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: is NFL tape. Gab and Teddy talked about this, and
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: I thought when I heard that, I was like, you
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: know what, that's a very solid point. We're about to
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: go against two teams that are guaranteed to have NFL
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: talent on it, especially offensive side of the ball.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: So for Woody, for Bowman, for Stuts, the last two
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: games of the season, our NFL tape, show them that
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: you can do this against dudes that you know gonna
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: be in the league.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: You show it.
• 27:39
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• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Shout out to x Rock nine carries fifty six yards six.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Point two yards per carry. I'm assuming he was doing
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: really good in practice.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Ye.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: The only upset thing I have to say about DeMarco
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Murray on this is why did he take two snaps
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: against Texas and two snaps against Ole Miss.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Two?
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's no reason I'm out on the whole
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: like red shirt situation, Like it just doesn't matter anymore.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: But I just, first of all, I mean, congratulations to him.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: He ran angry, He ran really really hard in the fall.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: I saw a couple of drills that he was not
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: He was doing the same mistake over and over and
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: over and DeMarco got up and his grill and I thought, well,
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: maybe we don't see him this year, but he obviously
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: has something. It took it took multiple injuries to you know,
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: to get him out there, and uh yeah, he should
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: have I mean, he should have been out there playing.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: And so it's just another it's just another testament towards
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: this offensive staff and Johnny just breevitables and you know,
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: overall like that, it's just so far down and there's
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: a new level of awful, like it seems like you're
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: discovering every single week on offense.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Yep. But to add to what you just said, you saw.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: From five videos, you know, when the media was out
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: there getting to take videos, you can see there was
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: mistakes made, the same ones over and over. It's nothing
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: against my boy, ex Rock, he's one of my favorite people.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Carl Albert Kidd got to see him. I went to
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: the championship game and see my boy. But if you're
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: making the same mistakes over and over, there's a reason
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: why you don't play. For example, everyone's now asking why
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: he wasn't playing. Those same people were probably saying that
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Taylor Tatum don't need to be playing, right and then
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: what we've been hearing as a lake, why is Taylor
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Tatum out there? Take him out? He can't hold the ball.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying. My point is there's usually a reason why,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: and it's typically around something around the playbook or making mistakes.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Like Tatum when you get out there, he makes him
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: explosive moves. He is not very good at blocking get
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: and that's a talent that takes time to develop. So
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: you go look at his blocking grade, it's not good.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: You won't know who had a really good blocking grade though,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: No Lie ex Rob Barns, Caleb Picks has a really
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: good blocking grade.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: YEP. In his age, he has pretty good blocking grade.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: But we haven't got to see it extended. We only
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: saw him in one game. We haven't seen extended. Caleb
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Picks solid great extra at a really good grade over
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: his four games total, but mainly from the last two
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: really good blocking grade.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: He can block really good, and it's made because of
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: his size. I mean, he's a huge dude. Like he's huge, so.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: He's one of those that you want to be out
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: there hitting dudes. He can block very well. So I
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: would like to go ahead and just burn the red shirt.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: And haven't played for us as the season.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: I know that you want to have him for future years,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Go ahead and play him that way. If he needs
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: his red shirt later because of knock on wood, hopefully
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: injury doesn't happen, but injury does happen, he can use
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: it later point you need to play him as your
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: best back. Him and Javonte Barnes, mix and Taylor Tatum
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: as of right now, especially kau sau Chuck is still hurting,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: but he can block. And what I liked most about
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: him is the way he moved in the hole. And
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: I and it's funny because let me throw this at you, Coop.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: This is the analogy I have for the way that
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: he plays. It makes me think about how quarterbacks that
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: come from smaller schools without as much talent around them
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: thrive more in the NFL than those that came from
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: the big schools that are producing a lot of national championships.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: They always seem to more of your those players play better,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: like I mean, you know, from your Patrick Mahomes at
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Texas Tech. I think he had maybe one or two
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: winning seasons while he was there. I mean, you go
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: down the list of all the quarterbacks in the NFL.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Not a lot of them that are starting today came
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: from a lot of your bigger schools, except for the
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: young guys.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: But I digress.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about guys that have been in league ten
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: plus years.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Or five to ten.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: But the way x Rop runs the ball, it reminds
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: me of the year that they won the state championship.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: His starting quarterback read Duquezi du Quasi. My bad got
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: hurt and it was literally handing the.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Ball to x Robby entire season. So he ran with
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: a lot of patience.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: He would wait for the whole to develop and then
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: he would fly right through it. At that big size, No,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: he cut a lot of weight. But I think he's
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: listed six one six two two twenty pounds.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Yeap, what do they have him actually listed as? I
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: think they haven't.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Listed it's like two twenty one two something like that.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Six foot two twenty six that they had him listed
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: on here. I don't think he's taller.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Than six feet. I'm almost six feet and he's way
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: taller than me. But yeah, the way he hit those holes,
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: he was boom, boom, shoot.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Fly right through it, come down and he'll go straight downhill,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: boom and go through it. It's amazing how he was
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: hitting those holes. So, yeah, he's gonna be good. Now
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: at this point you need to play him.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Pray for Dion Burks.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: It looks like I guess he posted a picture on
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Instagram of possibly a fire or something. I don't know
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: if it's his place, I don't know, if it's at
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: a family member's place. There's no clary clarity there. I
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: haven't seen nobody say anything on that. But that hit
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: he took clute NaSTA.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: The Yeah, I mean that's another one, you know, I
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: say that, Uh, you know, most of these injuries that
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: we've sustained have not been outside of you know, poor luck.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: Deon's the exception of that. Deon's the one who keeps
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: on getting drilled pretty hard. So hope hopefully that he
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: uh he is, he's doing good. Hopefully he gets recovery.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: You got two weeks until Bama. I mean, it's the
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: same thing. You just want to see, like, can is
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: there a chance? You know? Now now it's not like, hey,
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: can we go win this game, It's now like can
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: you can you throw out? Can you throw out? Maybe
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: you know four drives where you look competent and that's
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: kind of where it is this year. You're probably you know,
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: outside of some craziness, you're not getting a Bowl game,
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: so you're not going to have extra practices or anything
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: like that. And uh, says bbsit was his parents place,
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: so all right, something to keep mind. Yeah. So I mean,
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: now I say this, I mean I've seen a couple
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: of the comments and I just do want to say
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: this is everything I think currently because of the quick reaction,
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: is is on the table as far as jobs, that
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: includes Joe Cie, that includes Brent Vinnables. People want immediate change,
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: immediate and they're going to pony up some money for it.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: But I would say every single thing is on the
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: table right now. So as a fan base, yes, sit
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: back and watch. You know, there's a outside of who
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: was it? Was it Tennessee fans that showed up and
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: said hell no to our boy out there from Rutgers.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: Was in my am I crazy? It was, Uh what's
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: the head coach at Rutgers?
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: Great Siano. Wasn't he rumored to be the leader for
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: the Tennessee job? I think it was? And the Tennessee
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: fans were like, Nope, We're not doing this. And so
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: I just don't. I mean, everybody's frustrated, everybody wants massive changes.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: This is the one thing that I say, it's this offense.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: There's not much good that you can take from this
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: offense because even just like rushing, you've got the rushing thing.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: Ex Rob that looks great. Taylor Tatum is going to
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: be a good, you know, good back to. But Dion
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: Burks Bow or Sharp Fruke Tatum, we're you're leading receivers.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: I mean Jacksonarnel was the third leading receiver. So the
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: punter was, uh, you know, has the best best look
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: looking uh, you know, passing game stats out of everybody.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: So you know you're you're going to need You're gonna
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: need a lot of stuff. And fortunately for us is
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: that process is going already. That's it's it's it's up,
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: it's running. You're going to have to going to have
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: to go make some big changes, and there's gonna have
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: to be some culture pieces too. I think that if
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: I were Bob Stoops, big money donors, whatever, you need
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: to put people around Brent Vinamal's you're going to help
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: him out in this moment and really just get second
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: eyes and ears on you know, the thought processes around
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: what's going to happen, because there is some stuff about
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: the program that you know, you have to be able
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: to jump in the middle of someone's backside and say, hey,
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: you know the saying whatever you're giving me, it ain't enough.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: And you know, just because this is a the competitive
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: depth on offense is not competitive. You know, you like,
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: you still like what you're seeing on defense, but I
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: mean you're going to have to go in and do
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: what some of these other programs are doing where they've
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: brought in you know, double digit transfer portals and not
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: from the aspect of like a mercenary to where you're
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: basically going out and hiring you know, big time free agents.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: But you're gonna need some guys who want to come
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: out and play ball. They want to compete, they want
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: to go hard, they want to get better, and but
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: you're gonna have to have some guys with some talent too.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: So you're hoping that whoever the GOC is, maybe they've
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: got a couple of people who want to follow, and
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: then you need to be able to put an offense
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: on the field next week or next year. That is,
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: you know, let's throw top ten away, but you know,
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: middle of the pack at least, because it needs to
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: be needs to be. I mean, this offense this year,
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: it's it starts at the quarterback. You know, it's is
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: Jackson Arnold gonna be that guy? I think that right now.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna argue against you one way or the other.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I'm they're gonna have Venables is gonna get
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: one more year. They're gonna get one more year.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: The defense has shown a massive improvement, So he's gonna
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: get that one more year. With all the injuries that
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: he's dealt with, they're gonna give him a Yeah, they're
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: gonna give him the all right, we saw how bad
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: this was, for example, this is how this is the improvement.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: We talked about defense, total defense yards in a game
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: for defense, right, the wrong number, the one I typically
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: don't use, but I'm gonna give you the wrong number.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Coop, Where do you think we rank in total defense
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: this season?
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: Efficiency or total defense?
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Total? Actually just raw numbers yards giving up per game
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: average per.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: Game thirty two?
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: Ooh, you're close. Chat. Tell me what do y'all think
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: we rank in? How many yards average per game we've
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: given up this season? Now?
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Do average because not everybody's played as many games. We're
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: about to hit our next. We're about to hit our
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: next by week, and then at that point we're about
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: even with everybody else in how many games everybody's played.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: But where do you think we are raw number per game?
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Boomer drops thirtieth, Steven says thirty fifth, forty fourth, Chester
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: thinks top fifteen, twenty five holding, y'all are all in
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: the vicinity. Lone wolf is eighteenth. You were the highest one,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: but you're a little bit off. Twenty fourth three hunder
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: ten yards a game.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Would have never guessed we'd be up that high.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: And I think in defensive efficiency, like we're top fifteen still, right.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Yards per play, we're sixteenth in the country. It's twenty
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: fourth in total yards total defense. And that's just raw
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: number yards efficiency, top fifteen yards per play four point
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: eight where sixteenth in the country. That's where we're ranked.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: You think if you give us aficiency to we're twelfth,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: that's bananas to me that we can say that. And
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: if you have a competent offense it doesn't fumble the
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: ball twenty three times in a season, yeah, you're probably gonna.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: Be ranked higher. Than that.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Think about it. Just think about it. Just think about that. So, yeah,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: I told you I'm gonna give you a little positive
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: nuggets in there. Think about that. You have an offense
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: that's not afraid to throw the ball, which this is
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: where my complaint comes in.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: How the offense play. We hold the ball.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: And as the announcer said it, they would say, we
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: were seeing ghost.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: And that's what our quarterback was seeing was ghost. Kept
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: seeing ghost, and.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Instead of just getting rid of the ball, he was
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: tucking and then a few seconds later somebody would hit him.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: It's you don't know. We've said it all year, is
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: you don't know what what's the identity on offense. And
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: you cannot have an identity without consistency. There's just not
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: that you can't like It's not like you can say, like,
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: well we can really run the ball off the right
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: side of the offensive line. Well, damn Jay, I mean
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: there have been twenty two different variations of the right
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: side of the line. Same thing with that of the
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: line receivers. You know, it's Jackson's decision making. I mean,
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: it was a regression this week. It looks like I
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: think I saw somebody say something. It looks like we
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: got tennessee Jackson again.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly what it was.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: And he didn't have a reason to.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: No, no, not at all.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: The pocket actually looked good in a lot of situations.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: In most situations, the pocket looked solid. It was one
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: of those you just gotta get rid of the barber.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: But my favorite play, I had recorded it and I
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: posted in one of the chords when we were talking
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: about it.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: When we kicked the field goal.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: And of course the video shows, you know, Dion Burk's
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: talking to Jackson Arnold after the play. On that play,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: Jackson Arnold thought he saw Blitz.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: He tucked and got sacked.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: In that play, you saw Burke's doing this and was
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: cutting out. All you gotta do is hit that back pylon.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: Dion Burks catches it for a touchdown. Yeah, Coop, it
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: literally was hike boom, step up, launch it and just
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: watch it fly.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: And Burke's is wide open doing this just like he
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: did against Temple. That's what you had in that play.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: It was right there.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: I watched it like four times and I'm like, come on, now,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: come on, now, that was a play. But I've waited
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: this entire time to really talk about this coop, but
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: I think it's we're now on to twenty five. As
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Bill Belichick would say, we're.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: On the Cincinnati, We're on the twenty five coop.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Offensive coordinators saw somebody posting the comments nobody's worth anything's
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: gonna come here.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: That's a lie.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna tell you. I'm just gonna call you
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: a liar right there. Sorry, Uh not sorry. Also because
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: at yes, you wanna know why someone.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: Would take the job.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: Multiple reasons, but.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: The main one you come in here and you fix
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: it in one year.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Because we've seen with the transfer portal it's very easy
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: to make those changes in a year. Teams that flip
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: flop back and forth. Heck Colorado over to the bus.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: They lived in the portal for two years. They're probably
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: gonna play for the Big twelve championship game. You bringing
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: the right coordinator who's willing to bring in the right people.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: And then if you bring the right coordinator that's able
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: to go to the top and tell them open up
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: the gates. I know you've got a large safe of money,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: open it up. I need to spend it. He brings
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: in those players and he's able to turn that offense
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: around as you was about to say, coop head coaching job.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: Immediately we saw a lady leave here in two years
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: and get a head coaching job in SEC. Literally, the
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: same thing will happen to OC. So there will be
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: OC's that want to challenge again. I'm going to tell
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: you now, people have already inquired.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: There have been meetings, there have been meetings with big names.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Agents have already begun the conversations. They're curious.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: They want to know, huh, if my guy comes in here,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: he turns out around in two years.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: Because that's the thing about it. I said this the last.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: Time we talked about OC's, and I mentioned this a
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: while ago. If we bring a OC in here, there's
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: a very good chance they will not be here longer
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: than two years. You'll get lucky if you get them
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: for three. Your biggest problem right now is once the
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: season ends, anybody worth it that you really want will
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: not be available, probably until after the playoffs. So just
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: sit tight till January. We'll still drive videos and talk
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: about it, but until then, brace yourself.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: That's what it's going to be like.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: And somebody else said in the chat, and I said
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: this to our prehistoric dinosaur friend in the cord. You
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: come in here and you do the thing the right way,
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: and if there's still some craziness with game mismanagement and
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: just some of the stuff of the program, you might
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: get the head coaching job at Oklahoma that.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: Is also in the books. People are very interested.
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: And I promise you. Somebody made a comment to me
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: after a couple of weeks ago we had somebody's people
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: in and in town having a meeting about the what
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: does this look like conversation and somebody told me said, hey, well,
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: would people be freaked out because maybe Brent Vinable's footing
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: is shaky? No, because I promise you we've seen some
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: really shitty coaches recycled over and over and over again.
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: And if you come in, you're you're Your comparatives for
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: this offense are the worst offense ever in program history.
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: You come in and put something that looks like we
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: can wipe our own ass, and you're going to be
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: looked at as a success. You know, from the outside
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: in you can build your own stuff. You can build
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: your own program. Is you know, if you are a
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: Cratic or a Shanahan, you know, any of these guys
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: and you want to, you know, maybe bring a few
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: friends with you. That's open. That's that's one hundred percent.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: And and so I think that that's going to be
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: You're going to have opportunity to go to the transfer
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: portal for a couple of guys. You need offensive linement,
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: You're going to need a receiver or two. But you
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: go in and a tied end. You go in into
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: the portal. You can bring in a few guys. You
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: can bring him some up and comers from where you're
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: at right now. And again, another thing is is you
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: can tell your offense listen, you don't have to carry
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: the team. Our defense is going to be solid in
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: twenty five and guess what, you just need to go
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: out there and not be a deterrent for the rest
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: of the team, which is what we are dealing with
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: this year. It is literally like, just don't f this
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: up for us. And so I'm hoping and listen, again,
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: I understand everybody's everybody's mad. But at the same time,
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's not like this is Oregon State, It's
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: not like this is Wisconsin or anything like that. Like
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: this is a big name program still and people will
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: want to come here to have the opportunity to turn
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: it around and the spotlight will be on you immediately.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: Yep. Everybody's watching you.
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: And you're playing in the SEC too, and so how
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: many how many people in these other schools are wanting to,
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: you know, maybe bounce out, get out of there, because listen,
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: it's it's big ten in the SEC is where it's at.
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: As far as like your hope for your future, you
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: know where you're at with those.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: Two Yep, No, that's very true. That's that's very very true.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: It's it's gonna be.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: The good thing for this job is you know, like
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: you said, the eyeballs will be all over.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: You, nationally, not local. National.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Joe Klatt's gonna be talking about you. Colin Cowherd's gonna
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: talk about you. Paul Pine, Paul Fine Boum is gonna
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: go all on you. He's gonna go dig deep into
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: your resume to understand who you are.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: They're gona everybody gonna talk about you. That is all
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: you need.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: To know about taking this job. The question is who
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: can handle that much pressure? Because I do know this.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: This may be the downfall of BV is that the
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: person coming in on the offensive coordinator will be the
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: CEO of offense. It's yours. It's your staff, your your recruiting,
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: your budget, it's this. It's gonna be yours. That could
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: be a really good thing or it could be a
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: bad thing. It's similar to how it was for BV
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: at Clemson Devins is yours, Go hire people you want.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: Dabbo stayed away focused on the offensive side and being
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: a CEO.
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: And and listen, like I said, I said, everything is
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: on the table.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: Joke.
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: Stick Leon has been an absolute stud for this program.
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: I don't know if there's an argument that is extremely
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: strong one way or the other as far as is
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: it his time? Is it? You know? Does he still
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: have a lot more left? But I think that there's
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: a plan in motion regardless, because we had a Selman
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: brother leave here recently and go get their get their
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: feet wet as a athletic director somewhere else. So we
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: are we've got somebody there, you know. I saw Bob
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: stoops name in the I don't know if Bob Stoops
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: wants to turn around and uh and come back, you
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: know in this type of capacity, and hey, we need
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: to help, We need you to help fix the some
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: of the athletic department pieces. But I'll just say this.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: You know, it's we are three weeks away from the
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: season being done. I think that whoever the offensive coordinator,
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: there will be a silent deal in play, probably endo November.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: I think that they're going to have that kind of conversation.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: You know, you see it all the time where coordinators
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: are going into national championship games knowing that they're on
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: the way out and and so I you know, I
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: think that the twelve team playoff is uh is going
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: to cloud that up a little bit. But you know,
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: I just got to say this is I think that
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: you need to because of the transfer portal in the winter,
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: you need to have somebody that you can have conversations
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: with these kids and say, hey, this is who's coming
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: this way. You know we're going to need you or
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: I don't know how that runs, but you know it's
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: it's you're going to have people interested in coming and
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: playing football here. Is that the same thing as getting
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: a five star wide receiver or you know, the the
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: kreme de la creme. As far as like offensive linemen
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: who are just not happy wherever they're at, you know
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: you're going to have to get some guys who want
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: to come in and play. We you know, as of
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: right now, you still got you know, you've still got
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: the vote of confidence from guys like Fasusi and fo
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: j and Afo Lava and so those guys are gonna
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: want to come in and try to fight for fight
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: for playing time. But you've got to have somebody with
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: them to compete with because you can't have freshmen and
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: then you know, red shirt freshmen or true you know,
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: true sophomore is fighting in you know, be in the
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: same situation going into the season where you got you know,
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: nobody who's ever played together. And then we're gonna because
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: we're gonna pretty much be at the same exact situation
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: going into next year is what does our offensive line
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: look like? What does the receiver room look like? What
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: are we getting from quarterback? Whoever comes in is going
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: to have a carte blanche on on putting something together.
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: And it's uh, it's it's I will say this, any
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: any of our friends from other fan bases in here tonight.
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: If you hear confidence in the in the in the
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: fall and uh, you know, in fall camp, spring camp,
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: and you know stuff thrown out, call me out. On
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: it because it's going to be a wait and see
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: a year. We're gonna have to wait and see what
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: what does next year look like?
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: Yep, And I mean it's fine.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: I'm still gonna point out who I think is gonna
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: be rising stars, who I think can be good, who
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: I can do all that. I'm still gonna do that.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of the point of having a channel.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: I'm not It's no point of me telling you that
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: everybody sucks all day long.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, who wants to hear that.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: It's not even fun, right, There's nothing fun about that.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: You want to know who's a possibility, who's potentially gonna
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: be good, who you think is gonna.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: Be bad, all of that.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, I and I'm be honest, man, I have
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: no concerns with recruits. I have no concerns. I mean,
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: the only recruits I would have concern with are those
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: that are committed under certain coaches that we may not
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: see come back. But for the most part, the whole
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: point of the system of recruiting is commit to the school,
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: not to the coach. And that way, even if Bv's gone,
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: kids are gonna still want to come here to play
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: for the new regime that's gonna be the hopos, which
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: I'm here for that. I'm here for the way that
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: he's trying to build this. He's trying to build this,
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: like I said, the right way and have less stress
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: when it comes to hearing players constantly looking.
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: Around all the time.
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: A lot of people don't seem to have forgotten what
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: that was like. Every week guy's decommitting and a new
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: guy commit in another one de commit. Remember those days, Cook,
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: Those are dark days, very dark days. I'm not concerned
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: about a single recruit.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: Whatsoever.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: I'm not a reason to so they show me differently.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: I have no reason to be concerned. I know a
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: lot of them are looking at the I'm ready to
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: play now.
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and it's like it's you know, it could
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: be worse. We're throwing out scout team in the SEC
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: in our first year in the SEC on offense, and
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: these games are still competitive. But you can point and say,
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: all right, we got to do a couple of things
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: here and it's going to be good. You take a
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: look at Florida State, where do they start? Yep, you
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: know that was a team who went undefeated last year.
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: You look at USC they're doing the same things we are,
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: except for they don't have forty two offensive players hurt.
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: So I mean, there's it could be worse. But at
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: the same time, I mean, guys, we wanted a defense
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: that was going to make us happy and make us
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: proud and not just be an absolute embarrassment. Nobody had
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: under Bengo card the offensive staff was going to be
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: an embarrassment this year.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: Nobody on a Binger card that we would have this.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: Media injuries, I don't think.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: I think I'll do that from now on. I think
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: I'll do that from now on, Coop. I think I'm
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: gonna set all my expectations on the expectation that nobody on.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: The team plays.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: All right, as in, we go to the field and
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: there's the there's the opposition on the field, and we're
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: not there at all. I'm gonna start doing it from
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: now on, and I'm gonna start making that for everybody.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that from now on, because it feels
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: like now the rational fans in the comments, y'all know,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: you know, I know I'm being facetious right now, but cool.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: I think that's what I'm gonna do all expectations going
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: forth this well, if let me see, let me see,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: if we get one player on the football field, I'd
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: say we'll finish like this. And that's all I'm gonna say.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you who or anything. Because no one,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: absolutely no one expected.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: To be down.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: Four top receivers at the end of your first game,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: four different centers in three games, nine different offensive configuration,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: offensive line of configurations.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: In ten games. No one prepares for that. No, it's
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: not realistic.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: And the offensive line was going to be an issue
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: from the get go. So now you're already taking a
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  Speaker 3: position group that you're like, this is going to be
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  Speaker 3: a weakness of the team. And then you turn around
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  Speaker 3: and those guys don't even get to play through most
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  Speaker 3: of the year. And then any of the guys that
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  Speaker 3: were playing, you know, Jake Taylor, Jake Sexton, Garon Hatchett, Branson, Hickman,
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  Speaker 3: these guys were also not playing like healthy, like at all,
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  Speaker 3: Like Jake Taylor shouldn't be on a football field, like
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  Speaker 3: he shouldn't be on a football field, and he gave
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  Speaker 3: it to go a go in three separate games to
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  Speaker 3: where you know that boy and Jacob Sexton he could
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  Speaker 3: have been like, you know what, guys, you guys are
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  Speaker 3: screwing for my future. I'm done. Dude was moving all
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  Speaker 3: over the place. He was not you know, he was
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  Speaker 3: playing tackle, he's playing guard, he's playing on the right side.
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  Speaker 3: Like he's doing so many different things. He got deemed up.
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  Speaker 3: And so, I mean, I will say this is, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: there is frustrating this offense. And yeah, it's frustrating. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it's just frustrating.
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  Speaker 2: We're all frustrating. We're all frustrated.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I would have liked for no one of
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  Speaker 1: our on our offense to get hurt. That would have
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  Speaker 1: been awesome. I think I would have been great to
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  Speaker 1: see that too. Yeah, there's a reason why no team in.
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  Speaker 2: College football plays all freshmen.
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  Speaker 1: I just want you to know that. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: anybody's ever seen that before. There's a reason why teams
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  Speaker 1: never play all freshmen. Ever, we unfortunately have to do
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  Speaker 1: that a lot.
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