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WHAT?! Trump & the Fed are DISMANTLING the Global Banking Cartel!? w/ Tom Luongo · Man in America Podcast

• 0:13
  Seth Holehouse: Welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. So perhaps you're like me and you've long held this belief that the Federal Reserve is this tentacled beast that has been enslaving America since its inception. And I would say that that's very, very true. However, according to my guest today, Tom Luongo, things have changed.
• 0:38
  So I just finished this discussion with him, which could have gone for many more hours, but I have to say it was one of the most fascinating discussions I've had in recent memory. And not only was it fascinating, but it made me challenge a lot of the very core beliefs I have about what's really happening right now. And Tom doesn't just present ideas that are unfounded. Everything that he presents in this discussion is backed with a lot of information and evidence. It's apparent the guy is a walking encyclopedia, especially as it relates to the global financial system and, you know, global geopolitics.
• 1:16
  There's a few things, though, that you're gonna see in this interview that will absolutely shock you, most likely. So he talks about how he believes that in 2016, when Trump got in, that the course of the financial system in America changed drastically and that Jerome Powell and the Federal Reserve actually have saved the American people from the fate, pardon me, from the fate of a central bank digital currency and a global one world financial system. Now I know it seems counterintuitive, and it maybe stirs your bones a weird way to think, wait. The Fed isn't this evil thing. And look, you know, it is, and it needs to be abolished in my opinion.
• 1:58
  And I think that's also the opinion of my guest as well. But the point that he's making, which you'll see this expanded in much more greater detail, is that there is a war going on between the the different banking cartels. It's not some unified system like you might expect that the head of the pyramid is the, you know, the European banking cartel and all the central banks report to that. But, actually, there's a much bigger picture war that's happening, and this war relates to the election. It relates to what's happening with Trump.
• 2:29
  It relates strongly to what's happening with Ukraine and Russia and so much more. So I hope that you can enter into this conversation with an open mind. That's what I did. And I can tell you that I walked away from it thinking I just learned so much more information I did not know, and I have a lot more questions. I will also give you a quick warning that Tom doesn't mind using the f word and a few other swear words.
• 2:53
  So if you had children around that, you know, you don't want hearing these kinds of words, he maybe says the f word five times. Usually, you know, he's a pretty passionate guy, so it comes out in these in his fits of passion, which I understand. But just giving you the warning that if you have children, you might want to cover their ears or, you know, put some on your AirPods or whatever it is. So, anyway, folks, I hope you enjoy this interview with Tom Luongo. And if you learn something from it, let me know in the comments.
• 3:20
  Let me know what you think. Because this is again, it's an idea that is very different than the narrative that's pushed by a lot of people that are, you know, much more of the alternative media, which is just in the Fed in the Fed in the Fed. And his point is that the Fed is our greatest weapon against the global banking cartel. I wanna hear what your thoughts are afterwards. So, folks, please enjoy the interview with Tom Luongo.
• 3:44
  Mister Tom Luongo, it's great to have you back on. It's been quite a while, and, thank you for being here with us today.
• 3:51
  Todd Callender: Sure. I've this I'm I'm happy to have been reminded that this call is actually supposed to happen. Yes. I I at this point, I'm I don't know if I have to outsource my, you know, my scheduling to all the people that I've said yes to, but there it is. So and and the funny part about it is is that I I've even promised my partner, Dexter White, I do say no every once in a while.
• 4:10
  I really do. This is the problem, but you know? So
• 4:14
  Seth Holehouse: That's just how it is.
• 4:15
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 4:15
  Seth Holehouse: So you're someone that I always appreciate your take on things because you you don't follow the you don't follow the main narrative. And not because everyone who does is is just like a like a ignorant sheep. I think there's a lot of reason to follow the main narrative, but you what you're bringing to the table is a very different perspective, and especially in terms of the crossover of giant, you know, finance, geopolitics, you know, global banking, etcetera. And let let's just dive right in. There's there's one particular tweet that is what caused you me to reach out to you.
• 4:45
  So this was, you know, right after there's the instance where, basically, you know, Jerome Powell said, I won't step down if asked, basically. And then everyone's saying, look. You know, we gotta end the Fed. You know, that, you know, Trump doesn't have any control over it. And you put this tweet here, and I'll I'll just kind of highlight through this.
• 5:00
  You're saying a lot of people are waking up this morning to the force fed narrative of FOMC chair Powell saying he wouldn't step down if asked by Trump. Libertarians are screaming. Conceptual James James Lindsay woke right or out in force reading like four bee chicks after they chopped off their hair. But we're saying those that Powell's response wasn't a flex. It was a statement to Davos at all that the Fed doesn't work for them anymore.
• 5:24
  Its independence under power won us the election. The commercial banks that Trump is going to activate to rebuild America took a punch in the mouth as the Fed raised rates hard to drain the world. The hows you hear this morning are all in Europe, not China, not Russia, not Iran, The UK, and the EU. Stop carrying water for people who hate you because that's what you're doing right now with this in the Fed BS. We'll in the Fed, but after we've broken the BIS, the IMF, the ECB, and most importantly, the damn bank of effing England.
• 5:55
  So that that really caught me off guard. Was like, oh, okay. This is this is much bigger picture, right, because than than I thought. So I'll just I'll hand it over to you because I wanna learn from you, you know, from the horse's mouth. Like, what what what's coming into this?
• 6:12
  What do you see happening, and and what's behind that information you're putting out there?
• 6:16
  Todd Callender: Sure. The, the long and the short of it is that when we had globalists running the Federal Reserve, the Federal Reserve was a, was a globalist institution. Let's just, like, kinda start there. Okay? And it's a and it's you know, and 90% of, the end of Fed narrative is based on that, or 95 or 98% of it is based on that idea.
• 6:38
  The problem is that Jerome Powell is not a globalist in the same sense that Bernanke was and, you know, Yellen was. And I don't know about Greenspan. I just think he was a social climber and a weak man. Paul Volcker, we could make a lot of inferences about. But the reality is is that, the Fed is a weapon, and it has incentives.
• 7:07
  It's an organization. It's an organization with a mission statement. It's an organization with principle about what it's actually what its job is. And its job fundamentally is to serve its shareholders, and its shareholders are the commercial banks of The United States. Now no one would argue with me about any of those statements.
• 7:26
  And and generally speaking, we could even or we can even talk about those things in the pejorative. Right? But in the context of where we are today and the war is actually being fought, which is ultimately a war between central banks for control over the future of money, who do you want in your corner? Do you want the Fed in your corner, or do you wanna work for the ECB, or do you wanna work for the BOE, or do you wanna work for the BIS, or do you wanna work for the IMF, or do you wanna work for the PBOC over in China, or, you know, the Bank of Russia? It does not matter.
• 8:02
  Seth Holehouse: Tom, let me ask a just a quick question about what you said there. I think that one thing that I've come across, and I do it myself, you know, I don't like it, is that people tend to oversimplify. Good guy, bad guy. You look at the banking system, and there's this idea that, oh, the entire banking system is one big system. It's a pyramid at the top or the, you know, the European banking cartel and that every central bank reports to this.
• 8:29
  And so you think that every central bank around the world is all part of the same evil network, and they're all bad. But you just mentioned that there's central banks that are warring even within themselves. So can you, elaborate as you're explaining this?
• 8:44
  Todd Callender: And, well, the re well well, when everybody was making money and everything was fat and happy and globalism was on the march and everybody was making money off of globalism, including The US commercial banks, then everybody's probably, you know, sucking on the same straw as it were. But when that system starts to hit the rocks, and this is where I get a little this is where I get angry, actually, with my messian slash libertarian cohorts. And they and they say I say, look. Y'all were right. The central banking cartel is managed everything, and it's about to collapse.
• 9:19
  Now during the breakdown of that cartel, do you did all of a sudden did did IQs drop suddenly at the to quote Ripley from aliens? Or do when the cartel starts to collapse, do cartel members not turn on each other? And all of a sudden, we just throw all that out the window because we have a political we have an agenda that states it looks like x, and it's always going to be that way, and we can't ever look at things from the context of it of of that. So all I'm arguing here in this and I'll get into the specifics of this in a minute. All I'm really arguing is that the system's breaking down.
• 10:01
  It needs a reset. They're trying to the British are trying to meme us into a freaking war with the Russians as we do this, as we record this. And people are still sitting here telling me that the Fed, like, works for these guys after the Fed just spent five they spent three years raising interest rates, holding them at five and a quarter percent, and literally drained the Eurodollar markets of trillions of dollars of capital. And and because of that, forced move after move after move after move by the Biden administration, the ECB, the Bank of England, and everybody that I've chronicled at, like, every freaking small little turn over the last three years from this per perspective. And the the only conclusion you can draw is that the Fed helped win us this election.
• 10:51
  Why? Because they because Powell held interest rates at five and a quarter percent, five and a quarter to five and a half percent until September when at December of last year, the whole world was screaming the Fed's gonna cut seven times in in 2024. I'm like, no. They're not. Like, under who what?
• 11:10
  Who put that idea in your head? Oh, well, all of the the people that the Biden administration and the holdovers from the Obama years on their dot plot, which they pulled out at that moment in time. When you watch politics, when you watch these people operate, they lie in wait. Evil does this is that line from Zach Snyder's Justice League all over again. Evil doesn't sleep.
• 11:33
  It waits. So when you have someone like John McCain in the senate or you have Mitt Romney or Lisa Murkowski or you have you put Lisa Cook or Sarah Bloom Raskin on the FOMC board. These people don't do anything. They just lie and wait until the moment comes when they need to be pulled off the shelf, activated like plan r from doctor Strangelove, and create a narrative. And that narrative in December was the Fed is has to cut interest rates by seven seven times in 2024 in order to bully the Fed into doing so.
• 12:07
  And then you see policy implemented by the people who have the ability to pull the levers to make that narrative look correct, and it's a bullying process. They tried bullying the Fed. They tried bullying Powell for three years to cut stop. First to stop raising interest rates, and then to start cutting early as always. But what I said from the beginning of this was that from the moment it became obvious that the secured overnight financing rate, SOFR, which is now the debt indexing rate for all dollars around the world, was replacing LIBOR.
• 12:43
  Once that was in place, then all of these people over there in the euro dollar, the offshore dollar markets, longer had control over domestic had the ability to really control domestic dollar markets and domestic lending and the and and the liquidity profile of domestic of the domestic mon the domestic economy, domestic banking system, which is where everything lives. The whole world lives on this these pools of liquidity, which we can't measure and we can't, you know, we can't actively measure, but we can see, like, we can see the reflection of and how markets price themselves. Like, the markets are a reflection of that thing that we can't see. It's like the the there are many metaphors that I would have to go down in order to try and talk about this, but it's like reality is here, and there's this false projection on the wall. They want us to believe the projection on the wall when reality is over here.
• 13:44
  Okay? So, you know, pick your Philip K. Dick poison or, you know, I've got a I've got a perfect metaphor from Babylon five for this and how the Menbari see God, but I I would take me fifteen minutes to set that metaphor up, so let's not go there. But anybody who's watched Babylon five, remember this you know what I'm talking about. Now which is that we're we're looking at the reflection.
• 14:04
  All we can look at is the reflection. We can't see the actual things. We can't see the liquidity, but we can see the result of the illiquidity and how markets price themselves. So Hal clearly has been draining the offshore dollar markets since he started stealth tightening in the middle of twenty twenty one before he started raising interest rates. By him doing that, that signaled that they needed to get rid of him for a second in order to stop him from raising rates in the second term if he got one.
• 14:34
  So they've tried they spent six months trying to stop him from getting reconfirmed. They ran out of room. I don't wanna go into the details on this. I've I've covered it in a hundred podcasts. They ran out of room.
• 14:44
  Biden eventually had to put his name up for reconfirmation because he didn't have any other options, and he passed the senate eighty twenty.
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• 16:44
  Todd Callender: A week later, the war in Ukraine breaks out. Two weeks later you know, three weeks later, Powell's race starts raising interest rates. K? And then he just goes on the most historic run imaginable. Now at the time, everybody said, well, there's no way he'll go past up 1%.
• 17:01
  He'll the whole thing will collapse. I'm like, under the LIBOR system, absolutely. Under SOFR? No. He's gonna go to 6%.
• 17:09
  I said 6% at the time. I was off by 50 basis points.
• 17:12
  Seth Holehouse: Can you just give a real quick because I I remember I I interviewed you before, and we we covered SOFR and LIBOR and how that affects I think that that's a very central point is, I think, for a lot of the audience, they may not recognize those terms. Can you give me, like, a you know, I'm like a kindergartner. Explain SOFR and LIBOR and how that affects the global financial markets.
• 17:31
  Todd Callender: What is it? The hard the hard part here is is that, you know, LIBOR grew out of the birth of the euro dollar system, which is where we had all these dollars. We we created the dollar reserve standard. Right? We put all these dollars around the world to settle global trade, but nobody had a good way to price those dollars.
• 17:48
  So, eventually, we wound up with LIBOR. And LIBOR is a was a rate that was determined by 18 city of London banks or, you know, European and and City Of London banks. One of which is the only the only American bank in in the mix there was JPMorgan's London office. The rest of them are all, you know, European banks, they're telling us what they think the the price of dollars should be at, you know, 5 o'clock every day. They get on the phone.
• 18:11
  They call each other up, and they
• 18:12
  Seth Holehouse: say, boom. Well, the Fed raises rates that affects the money in America, but then so LIBOR is what allows them to
• 18:18
  Todd Callender: But the lie so that it it it it's a it's actually quite complicated. Now you you want the kindergarten version. Let's Okay. Make it simple. Let's just make it simple.
• 18:27
  And I'm gonna make an assertion here. I've covered this in multiple podcasts. I've covered this in in in grave detail. But, basically, your the euro dollar system, because of the inherent leverage within it, because it's all private lending and it's all off balance sheet and it's all and it's all, it's all rife with corruption. It's far more vulnerable to an interest rate hike by the Federal Reserve, the raising the price of dollars than the American economy is.
• 18:53
  And so what we wind up with all during the LIBOR years is the Fed would raise interest rates to to cool and overheat The US economy. It would cause a recession overseas. But because all of our debt was tied to their pricing their pricing index, then our debt got repriced in terms of their need for capital. And so the Fed would always cut interest rates because it would induce a recession here faster than it should have. We would never
• 19:25
  Seth Holehouse: Sorry. Because so much of the world is holding US debt that when the Fed raises rates, you you could have a little country in Europe that that, say, half point raise might collapse their economy because they're holding so
• 19:37
  Todd Callender: much Or might collapse their or collapse their banks or whatever.
• 19:40
  Seth Holehouse: I mean, they're saying
• 19:41
  Todd Callender: they would have to deal with blah blah blah blah. And it's just a if The United States let's just put it this way. If the neutral rate for The United States was, say, 6% and the euro dollar system was three and a half percent, the minute the Fed gets beyond three and a half percent, they're in trouble.
• 19:52
  Seth Holehouse: Makes sense.
• 19:53
  Todd Callender: Okay. Need to raise the six in order to clear out the malinvestment in Ms. Hessian terms. We need to clear out the malinvestment, refill the pool of real savings, and start the next business cycle. We can't we're never allowed to do that because the because, you know, city of London is literally setting the upper limit on what we can what we can what we can do.
• 20:13
  So they're in control of our monetary policy. So what we had was, up until SOFR, we weren't in control of our monetary policy. Jeff Snyder used to make this point all the time. As far as I'm concerned, Jeff, revealed himself to be I I don't know that he's an agent of the city of London or he's just uninformed, but he didn't under understand or anticipate the change in SOFR going back and didn't understand that that would change everything. And that, because now the American economy can tell the Fed when to cut start cutting interest rates as opposed to the rest of the world.
• 20:50
  So the rest of the world has been screaming for two years to stop cutting inter to stop raising interest rates or to start cutting them. Every time Powell would every time there was another FOMC meeting, there'd be another sternly worded letter from Elizabeth Warren, who's one of their agents in our congress, or another big media push from Reuters, the Financial Times, all of these freaking devotion, city of under control outlets about how the Fed is, you know you know, screwing things up. You have the they activate the, frankly, the zero head slash offshore libertarians that who are predisposed towards hating the Fed in the first place to carry their water for them, which is what I was saying in that tweet. Because then they go out and they get act they immediately abreact and go, yes. The Fed is ins the Fed is incompetent, blah blah blah blah.
• 21:37
  Like, it's nonsense. And the whole Powell printer go ber memes that that went around in 2020 are particularly egregious because Powell had no other choice but just to to monetize all this debt because the United States treasury market went big list, which means that the American banking system had seized up. And that's his job is to protect that. Like it or not, you can hate it, but it's true and it's reality. And it's also reality of your life.
• 22:12
  Because if you hate that so much that you wanted Powell not to do that, well, then they just stack three years worth of sardines and toilet paper and bullets? No. You didn't? Then you're not prepared. So, you know, fuck you.
• 22:30
  No. So that's the way this works, and that's the reality of the world. And myself and Daniel DiVardino Booth are literally the only ones out there screaming this had to be done this way. Like it or not, the Fed is doing the right thing. Why?
• 22:46
  Now what's their incentive? Their incentive is simply because the commercial and why would the commercial banks go along with this knowing it would blow massive holes in their balance sheets? And everybody's like, well, the banks are gonna collapse, and the the the the interest on the debt's gonna gonna go out go out of control. I'm like, yeah. That's a feature, not a bug.
• 23:06
  The banks understood that they were facing existential threat because if the Fed stayed at the zero bound, they were gonna have no other option but to cede all of their power to the Eurodollar system, stay at the zero bound, and usher in MMT, UBI, CBDCs, perpetual war, all the surveillance, all the stuff that everybody's out there screaming about could I'm like, guys, that can be fixed with 6% interest rates. And they're like, no. They can't. No. We can't.
• 23:34
  I'm like, why? What do you know about any of this? Like, I've been studying this shit for twenty years. I can figure it out. I got news for you.
• 23:41
  The guys at the Fed can figure it out. And I got I got even more news for you. Jamie Dimon knows this better than you do. And I'll call out Whitney Webb and all these other people who literally said this is nonsense. I'm okay.
• 23:54
  Stay black pilled. You're wrong. Go to 6%. Watch them scream. It gets me very angry because it's so very obvious what happened here.
• 24:04
  If you were willing to read things from a fund of if you just take your framework, shift it 90 degrees, and look at it from the Fed and the commercial banks point of view, clearly this is their their option. And, you know, the world is not simple. The world, everybody has their incentives. I have my incentives. You have yours.
• 24:23
  Jamie Dimon has his. Jerome Powell has his. Christine Lagarde has hers and Klaus Schwab has his and, you know, blah blah blah blah. If you stay wedded to those things and you don't react in real time to the to the change in the game board, guess what? I got a 40 board games down here that I will kick your ass in.
• 24:40
  Why? Because I can I can I can keep you off balance and keep you off your game? Because I'm willing to look at what game you're trying to play, and I'll thwart that. I'll make one move which collapses your entire game because your entire game is predictable. So I don't care if we're talking about okay.
• 24:57
  It doesn't matter. Right? So that's that's what's going on here. That's all I did. And so now let's I'll back it I'll back it up on well, I'll I'll I'll finish this point.
• 25:07
  Seth Holehouse: Okay.
• 25:07
  Todd Callender: So what's important here is to understand that what was Davos putting on the table? The end of commercial banking. That's why they did this. That's why they took that's why The US money center banks were willing to take a massive punch in the mouth for two years, blow those holes in the balance sheets. The Fed turns around and creates some some small, facilities to make sure that there's liquidity behind the scenes, and the bank term funding program, for example, was one of those things.
• 25:39
  And everybody said everything that was ever written on zero hedge or everywhere else about any of the but all about the BTFP was absolutely and completely and comically wrong. Comically wrong. So, again, they didn't understand what it would what it was. Like, wow. They we put a hundred you know, some banks pledged a hundred billion bought a hundred billion dollars worth of loans.
• 26:02
  I'm like, in the into
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: the
• 26:05
  Todd Callender: in the the banking system, a hundred billion dollars isn't like nothing. We're talking about trillions of dollars moving the currency markets every day. Really? Really? I mean, if it was such a big deal that that thing as Danielle put it multiple times, that thing be two would have been $2,000,000,000,000.
• 26:25
  Okay. A hundred billion. It's a rounding error. So the reason they did this was because the if if the Fed lost this fight, then they would we would lose the commercial banking system. And we would wind up with central bank digital currencies and all the things that everybody's complaining about and all the things everybody's scared of.
• 26:51
  That was the path to central bank digital currencies. So because, you know, no commercial banks, no private formation of capital, no community banks, no big mega banks, no big projects to build pipelines. No small projects to build libraries. You want a water treatment plant in your hometown? Sorry.
• 27:10
  You gotta go you gotta go ask Christine Lagarde for permission. Guess what? You think Christine Lagarde's gonna give you permission? Hell. We got FEMA agents out there passing over Trump, people with Trump signs not to give them aid that they paid for.
• 27:23
  And you think that these people are not gonna, you know, tell us that we can't have a library in Palatka? What are you out of your mind? Like, that's the plan. And that was the plan and that was ultimately the plan to destroy America. You they lost monetary control of The United States under Trump.
• 27:39
  What happened under Trump was Powell being put in at the Fed. John Williams being put in in charge the architect of SOFR, in charge of the New York Fed. He moved from the Atlanta Fed to the New York Fed. And then, and that and that was that. And then they implemented it over a five year rollout period.
• 27:57
  By 2022, SOFR was the law of the land. All new debt indexing, your car loans, everything was all dominated in SOFR. But this is why and not LIBOR. So LIBOR is now dead. So this is why the Fed literally won us in the election because they were able to hold interest rates and high until September, which pushed the economy down, kept thing and they kept saying, we're we're doing this because inflation is too high.
• 28:24
  We're doing this because inflation is too high. Crap. They were doing it to they were doing it to literally force out into the open all of America's enemies, financial and otherwise. And they were ensuring that under no circumstances was Kamala Harris going to be elected president. That was what they could do on their side of it.
• 28:45
  And they forced Janet Yellen to destroy the structure of our debt, and they all sorts of things that they that they did, which can all, by the way, be undone because it's a double edged sword. So I'll I can explain that. We we can go forward on that. So that was why they did it. And then in September, when Powell cut by 50 basis points, that was the signal to global capital.
• 29:06
  Oh, by the way, the yes. You're right. The US markets, commercial real estate markets, and the credit markets are in worse shape than we thought. And we then we let on. Here's 50 basis points and then another 25, and this is now to release the pressure on the banking system to allow credit to start flowing in.
• 29:21
  Look at what's happened to the yield curve in the, what, now eight weeks since the, since the the first fifty point rate cut. We went from a deeply inverted yield curve to a flat yield curve. Now or a flat yield curve. Now he cuts by another 50 basis points over the next two week meetings. Now we have an upwardly sloping yield curve just like we're supposed to have.
• 29:43
  And guess what, folks? For the first time in four years well, honestly, for the first time in, like, fourteen years, we have an upwardly sloping yield curve that's not, like, weird, and the banks can start lending at a profit. They can borrow twos and and and, you know, they can they can borrow from the Fed against the the short term and lend long. Now we can fund pipelines. Now we the banks will, you know, give you a decent now we can start doing that.
• 30:10
  So as opposed to forcing the long end of the yield curve up even higher, it'll now they can just bring it down. The reason that the that and that's even a a because the reality is is that The US Ten Year should be trading hell of lot higher than four and a half percent, probably close to five, five and a half.
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• 31:48
  Todd Callender: Fed funds rate probably needs to be around three, but it's gonna take us time to get there. And guess who's been buying the long end of The US yield curve to stop that from happening? The proof is in the pudding. The proof is in the TIC data, which tells you that since, September of twenty twenty one, Europe, the Bank of England, and all of its subsidiaries in The Caribbean, along with Canada, have bought over $1,100,000,000,000 worth of US treasuries net net. Since September 2021, they bought over a trillion dollars.
• 32:22
  Now, by the way, the Bank of England now has more US treasuries on its balance sheet directly than China does.
• 32:31
  Seth Holehouse: Oh, okay.
• 32:32
  Todd Callender: And that's not include that's not including the British Virgin Islands, Bermuda, The Bahamas, The Caymans, Luxembourg, which has a a a ridiculous amount. Like, you couldn't carpet. You could take all the dollars that are that are on the balance sheet of of the Luxembourg Central Bank and and carpet Luxembourg with it, and you'd probably be able to do it twice. You could, like, pave all of Luxembourg with the dollars that they supposedly controls. It's rid the US Treasury they control.
• 33:03
  It's ridiculous. So when you and that and that amount has accelerated this summer when The US tenure was pushed down from, 4.75% into the threes, while Janet Yellen was doing QE from the treasury department to push yields down, getting everybody to front run her her buying along end of the curve. Right? You know, this this was it was a it was an operation, and it was an operation to keep a lid on European sovereign debt because if it got too high, if European sovereign debt went too high, then we were gonna start seeing banks all over Europe explode. But at some point, you know, you run out of other people's money.
• 33:44
  You run out of dollar reserves to sell into the market. Now the ECB, since the election, has been having to sell euros to buy dollars, to buy treasuries, to, you know, to sell those dollars to buy treasuries. That's why the euro is collapsing. That's why the pound is collapsing. That's why everybody's moving all their money into The United States because Donald Trump is like, I'm gonna fix all this.
• 34:04
  And it's just it's just hilarious to watch. I mean, I I get up in the morning. I look at the euro, and I yeah. Good luck, Chrissy. Welcome to parity.
• 34:13
  Actually, welcome to 60¢ on the euro because that's what's coming.
• 34:18
  Seth Holehouse: So let me kinda just give my understanding of what you've said so far to make sure that because, you know, this is it's dense information, and I I think I'm following it very closely, but I'm gonna I'm gonna summarize it. So, basically, k, one point, there's a lot of people that may have read, you know, Jekyll Island twenty years ago. And Sure. They they have this idea that the Fed is evil, and they they they're they're not really updating it. Like, what you're doing is you're you're watching every day what's actually happening, and you're looking and seeing, okay, what are the real motives here?
• 34:49
  And so, you know, as you mentioned, back when there the everything was going great, all the central banks were working in unison. They weren't fighting each other. It's like when it when it when it you know, like a gang is is or a big cartel is doing really well. Everyone's excited. Everyone's making money.
• 35:04
  Okay. But when Trump got in, he changed. He put Powell in, changed some policies. Obviously, there's there's issues before that.
• 35:10
  Todd Callender: And at that point, I think the commercial banks saw their opportunities to get off the globalist train.
• 35:15
  Seth Holehouse: I see. Okay. So true. Okay.
• 35:17
  Todd Callender: To realize that when when there's no option for them to leave the system, then you go along with the system as best you can.
• 35:23
  Seth Holehouse: I see.
• 35:24
  Todd Callender: It's similar to how all the Arab states went along with US foreign policy depredations all across The Middle East until Putin moves into Syria in 2015 and blows everything wide open.
• 35:34
  Seth Holehouse: Okay.
• 35:34
  Todd Callender: All of a sudden, the people who have been who who have no hope and they're just they got their heads down going along to get along, and hoping for that moment when somebody peaks their when somebody says, okay. They blew up the Death Star. Okay. Now we now we can rebel. Well, the same things happen.
• 35:50
  The same thing happened all across The Middle East. Same thing is happening in the commercial banking space. Same thing is happening now. You're seeing it everywhere. I was, like, talking to a friend of mine who who's who teaches who substitute teaching in eighth grade in Alachua County in the city of Gainesville.
• 36:05
  He's like, on November 6, all their kids were walking around with MAGA hats on. Eighth graders. They were all Trump fans before that, but the social pressure was so intense in bluest of blue on Ochawa County that no way could they actually express that. All of a sudden, everybody's coming out of the woodwork. And the other thing, and this is the other dividend of Trump's win, is that if he gets through his cabinet picks, he's gonna lift the pressure on all the junior CIA analysts who are trying to give good information, pass it up the chain, and the DOD analysts and everything else, the whistleblowers are gonna come out left and right along with the fact that the cartels, the suppression schemes are all breaking down.
• 36:46
  Now everybody's gonna be looking at they're gonna be sitting back in their house right now going, I've been burying their bodies for for twenty years. I know where they all are buried. I've been keeping their secrets because if I didn't keep their secrets, I was gonna die, and my family was gonna get, you know, destroyed. And I was gonna get debanked and unpersoned and, you know, a large Mexican they're gonna pay a large Mexican fifty dollars to kill me. How many of those are now saying, oh, maybe not.
• 37:16
  Maybe.
• 37:17
  Seth Holehouse: I see.
• 37:17
  Todd Callender: Just maybe I can go to Trump, metaphorically speaking, with this information and cut a deal for myself. So That's what you have to understand. That's the significance of what we've set up here.
• 37:33
  Seth Holehouse: I see. So cross every vertical. So this is okay. And it's it's much bigger than banking, obviously. This is huge.
• 37:42
  Intelligence agencies that, you know, military industrial complex. I mean, this is it it's the undoing of this whole system. But looking at banking, so so, basically, Trump gets in. He he provides an off ramp for the the Fed to basically exit from this this this kinda train careening in towards a globalist system, which had the intention that the global system wanted to collapse the the banking system in America so they could, through unified ledger, you know, through the, you know, BIS, you know, IMF, etcetera. Right.
• 38:11
  So they could then bring in
• 38:13
  Todd Callender: things that all those things that everybody's all worried about.
• 38:15
  Seth Holehouse: I see.
• 38:16
  Todd Callender: All those all those plans are all on the ropes.
• 38:20
  Seth Holehouse: I see. Every bit of them. So, basically, you couldn't say it was a serial keeps
• 38:26
  Todd Callender: telling you otherwise is lying to you.
• 38:29
  Seth Holehouse: I see.
• 38:30
  Todd Callender: I mean this sincerely. Under Powell, there will not be a retail CBDC over his dead body. There may be a wholesale CBDC called FedNow. Like, that's just changing the payment layer.
• 38:41
  Seth Holehouse: I see. Okay.
• 38:41
  Todd Callender: It's payment layer. That's level two stuff. That's no different than lightning on on top of Bitcoin.
• 38:46
  Seth Holehouse: So to save itself
• 38:47
  Todd Callender: Lightning and Bitcoin are literally and and and and and these digital payment systems are forcing the Fed out of the 20 out of the middle of the twentieth century running their freaking back offices on COBOL and, you know, a s three sixties.
• 38:59
  Seth Holehouse: I see. So, basically, to in in essence, to save itself from doom, the Fed pivoted away from the globalist system to prioritize the American economy, the American system, which in essence also saved us from a a a basically, one world currency. Right?
• 39:17
  Todd Callender: Well, what I would actually say is it's it's actually even less controversial than that. They did it to save themselves.
• 39:24
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah.
• 39:26
  Todd Callender: And then as an extension of that, as a downstream effect of that, we benefit. Now is it gonna be meet the new boss same as the old boss ten years from now? Yeah. Probably. We'll fix that problem when we get to it.
• 39:39
  But we gotta fix these other things first. We cannot, in any way, manner, shape, or form, castigate the Federal Reserve, which just literally is the only dragon out there with enough with enough with enough breath left to fight these freaking people. And you're gonna just no. Let's get rid
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: of So the Fed is a war
• 39:59
  Todd Callender: and say, hey. Let's go. Hey. Let's go fight a ground war in in Eastern Ukraine, but we're gonna arm everybody with kazoos. We're gonna take those m fours and all that stuff and all the and all the SIGINT and all the satellite intelligence.
• 40:15
  We're gonna take all of that, and we're just not gonna bring it to the we're we're gonna get rid of that.
• 40:21
  Seth Holehouse: But the Fed
• 40:21
  Todd Callender: Here let's let's throw let's throw some infantry trip troops in there with some kazoos and a couple of ukuleles and see if they'll see you know, they'll start singing kumbaya with us. Are you
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: fucking out of your mind?
• 40:31
  Todd Callender: Because, like, literally, it's a war, and you're telling me that we should get rid of the army.
• 40:38
  Seth Holehouse: So, like, the Fed is, like, our our our megaton nuke. It's the only weapon that we have against the global central banking cabal. It's the only weapon that we like, the Fed
• 40:47
  Todd Callender: It's most powerful weapon on the earth,
• 40:50
  Seth Holehouse: Seth. So walk me through walk me through
• 40:53
  Todd Callender: You would just, like, get rid of it.
• 40:54
  Seth Holehouse: Okay. So I'm I'm I'm I'm getting this now. Okay? I'm I'm I'm I'm kind of I'm I'm on your wavelength, and it's it's a fun wave. I'm enjoying it.
• 41:02
  So walk me through
• 41:04
  Todd Callender: how Sure.
• 41:05
  Seth Holehouse: The Fed can bring down the Bank of England. So and I guess, before I ask that question, would you say that the the Bank of England is the head of this this beast that we're fighting? The head of the beast of of the global bank of It's
• 41:19
  Todd Callender: I mean, it's it's really it the goal I mean, the Bank of England is is is the centerpiece for all of Perfidious Albion's perfidiousness. Let's not kid ourselves. Now my my good friend and and and and and partner in crime on all things London, Alex Kraner, detailed for everybody over the summer the dire position that the Bank of England is in over debt to Ukraine, that it's guaranteed to the IMF, along with the holes in its balance sheet that it still hasn't fixed from the guilt crisis of 2022. Now I refuse to I have already done this before, and I won't do it again. I wrote a big blog post about this back in October.
• 42:12
  It's trying to explain how even the British and their evil can be framed as victims in this because they have you have to look at things from that perspective and see how they're being attacked by Continental Europe and, by extension, sovereigntists within The US. So, you know, okay. How do you, you know, how how do they respond to this? Right? It's always not it's never about the move you just saw.
• 42:42
  It's about the the move that's coming next. So the war in Ukraine, as we're finding out today, is an existential problem for Continental Europe. And I've been saying this since the years before the war even came out, but I didn't have a good answer. I didn't have as nuanced to take on it then as I do now. And I really do credit, you know, the the dozens of conversations I've had with Alex Kraner on this as we throw these ideas back and forth and we sharpen our we sharpen our pencil.
• 43:14
  Right? And we are, you know, and we start using that to draw a better picture. And what it comes down to is as follows. They don't have any collateral for their system. They wanna collapse the existing system, but they need collateral to be able to they need to collapse the current system.
• 43:34
  They need to default on all the debt, but then they need to have a source of collateral in order to bring a new system to bear. Because who's gonna buy into the system if the system doesn't have any collateral? Now in the West, collateral is generally cash flow. Cash flow off of what? The per production of energy and commodities, which form the basis for an economy.
• 43:52
  This is where I fund this is where I this is where I somewhat disagree with Martin Armstrong about that. You know, the value of a currency comes from the value of the labor of you know, within that labor potential within the economy. I think it's one step deeper than that. The real source is the ability of that labor to efficiently create and generate the collateral necessary to run a real economy because, you know, you know, labor efficiency means nothing if you have no input goods to turn into higher order goods.
• 44:22
  Seth Holehouse: Like activating Keystone pipeline. Right?
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: Well
• 44:25
  Seth Holehouse: Like, the the Keystone is is the collateral. Right? Not the labor. The the the fundamentally, the Keystone
• 44:30
  Todd Callender: is that built the pipeline or the labor that built maintains the pipeline or or the labor that takes the oil. Right? It's the Keystone, and then everything else is built off of that. First order goods becomes second order goods, become third order goods, become fourth order goods, become thirtieth order goods, then we have an iPhone. Right?
• 44:48
  So without the Keystone pipeline, there are no iPhones. There's no AI revolution. There's no robots to do all the work. There's no nothing. There's none of this crap that comes out of the heads of these, of these academics and eggheads and, and narcissistic abusers known as the World Economic Forum without that.
• 45:09
  And they know this. They're not stupid. They don't want the end of oil. That's bullshit. They want the end of our producing cheap oil Because why?
• 45:19
  They don't have any.
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• 46:33
  Todd Callender: So where are they gonna get the oil and the lithium and the cobalt and the tungsten and the, and the aluminum and the nickel and the natural gas and the wheat and the corn and the this and coal and all the things they're gonna need to run their monitor con to run their their more ever more perfect technocratic utopia, their EUSSR. It's all in Russia. It's all in the Donbas. It's all in The Middle East. And what do they want?
• 47:00
  They wanna destroy The United States. Why? Because the other half of that pile big pile of shit is in that they need is in Canada and The United States. Europe's got nothing. Europe has the unquenchable envy of Marxism and a lot of and a lot of beautiful old capital that they built off of their old colonialist model.
• 47:24
  That's about it.
• 47:27
  Seth Holehouse: So, basically, the the chicken's coming home to roost and the European banks, because fundamentally, they don't control they don't have the commodities and the and the natural resources that exist in, you know, Russia, America, for example, that So the reality is catching up in their system. Their glow their system is collapsing.
• 47:47
  Todd Callender: Right. And why the Bank of England is facing an existential threat is because they, along with all of these European globalists, promised trillions of dollars of future cash flows off of breaking up Russia and Ukraine and bringing it under Western control for them to underwrite the beginning of their brave new world. And Putin said, niet. And he's still saying niet. And so now where are we today?
• 48:22
  Well, we keep saying move, move, move, move, move, counter, move, move, counter, move. Now it's a very complicated game board, right, Ultimately. Could be easily a six player game of Dune or, you know, however you wanna put it or a nine player game of diplomacy or whatever. You can be whatever you however whatever metaphor you wanna use. When I went to the Ron Paul Institute on Foreign Policy two two years ago, I described it as a seven player game of Go.
• 48:46
  Look, seven player game of Go never ends because if you know anything about Go, there are no stable structures when six other people get the Go before you get the Go. I think everybody can break down everybody else's structures. So the board never fills up. You know, people are just capturing stones off of each other all the time. And, really, the points you score don't even matter because the game can't ever end.
• 49:07
  So who's gonna win this game? Like, you know, a game that never ends has no winner unless you flip the game board. And you're the guy who flips the game board and then starts a new game.
• 49:20
  Seth Holehouse: Which is why they won't
• 49:21
  Robert Kiyosaki: said three.
• 49:23
  Todd Callender: Now now as we go along and as we watch this whole this whole system play they saw watch all these factions play themselves out. At the end of the day, they run out of, you know, options and options and options and options start narrowing down, winnowing down to the point where we're down down to they have one move left with the game board, which is what I warned about two years ago, and it's where we are today.
• 49:49
  Seth Holehouse: Does that move poke the bear enough so that Putin then nukes some sort of European country and World War three resets everything? Is that their last move?
• 49:58
  Todd Callender: No. It's it's a classic move of narcissistic abusers, which says, if you can't if I can't have the world,
• 50:05
  Seth Holehouse: neither can you. I see.
• 50:09
  Todd Callender: It's literally nihilism taken to its extreme its extreme. So where are we this morning? We're recording this on the, you know, Tuesday the well, I'm sorry.
• 50:21
  Seth Holehouse: Thursday the
• 50:21
  Todd Callender: twenty first. The '20 the first Thursday the twenty first. I literally, this week has been so freaking busy. I I don't even remember what day it is, folks. We're recording this now.
• 50:37
  Where are we? Well, literally two hours ago, Matt Gaetz just withdrew his nomination as AG, which I think is an expression of how much politic of finding out how I was I I now, in hindsight, I'm looking at it going, that was bait to see how much political capital they were willing to spend to keep Matt Gaetz from becoming AG. They've decided that he's going to be senator from Florida as opposed to attorney general because that's what's gonna happen next. He's gonna replace Marco Rubio. What was gonna happen here is that they're going to try and block all of Trump's picks, every one of them.
• 51:11
  And they're well, we just found out how much they're what they're willing to go to. Expect Trump's countermove to be recess appointments or the Vacancies Act of 1998 or something along those lines. He's going to make a major move here and put everybody else in place. That's what I think is gonna happen. Now the swamp didn't win here.
• 51:28
  The swamp just thinks it won. What you're seeing, they're still counting votes in a lot of the battleground states. They still refuse to, you know, to to to call out of house elections and senate elections and all this rotten nonsense. I think they're setting up for a 1913 style coup like they did and that created the Federal Reserve in the first place And the direction of election of senators and the income tax, which was a coup against The United States. And it was successful.
• 52:02
  All three of those things were terrible. All three of those things led us to where we are today, the inheritors of the British empire, having adopted British foreign policy, British monetary policy, British fiscal policy, British this, British this, British this, all the shit. All it. The only and and and at the same time, the British export Monty Python to us, and we think that, you know, they're just a bunch of, you know you know, useless and, you know, post imperial, you know, upper class tweets. Wrong.
• 52:31
  Very fucking wrong because these people still have a lot of potency. We get the Grey Zone article from two days ago or a few days ago telling detailing for us just how deep, deeply embedded a group called what Project Alchemy was in setting the the tempo for the escalation and the planned escalation of the Russia Ukraine war, stepwise at every moment. And how wrong they've been, but they continue to run the plan. Continue to run. They're one of the verticals within, you know, the the Gantt chart at Evil Corp Central that I keep talking about, and they're one of them.
• 53:10
  And they on their and on their time on this, this if this happens, then we do this. Trump wins. Two weeks later, Joe Biden, clearly voted for Trump, clearly cut a deal with Trump to pardon his family and secure his legacy, isn't really president. So we get a New York Times report that Biden approved the long range missiles, attackers, to attack Russia. And they probably fired a couple of those, the ones that we already gave them with a hundred mile range.
• 53:43
  But we've but, you know, forty eight hours later, there are strikes inside Russia a 40 miles in. So now the question is, what are they trying to do? Well, what they're trying I think what they're trying to do is now within you know? And between those two events, we start hearing chatter about the twenty fifth amendment. Let's get rid of Biden.
• 54:04
  Oh my god. He I can't believe he did this. Biden didn't issue this order. Folks, it was just reported in New York Times by who? Of course.
• 54:13
  The intelligence agencies. So this happens. You blame it on Biden, and then you go for twenty fifth amendment. They're keeping the senate open with all these, you know, stupid judge appointments, and Elizabeth Warren's out there quote tweeting herself, quote tweeting herself, quote tweeting herself all day long about how she's live blogging and them staying in session. And why?
• 54:35
  Because they need to keep congress open. Because they're planning on something. They're waiting for, I think, they're waiting for the following. They're gonna try a twenty fifth amendment on Biden. Again, I may be schizo posting here, but this is what I see.
• 54:49
  This is one possible path that they're that they're gonna take. Maybe I'm wrong. They're gonna try and go for a twenty fifth amendment removal of Biden. Because now Biden, as commander in chief, is standing in the way of the Americans coming in on the side of Ukraine because he's made a deal with Trump to end the war and end all of this because Joe Biden doesn't Joe Biden doesn't care about any of these people. They fucked him out of $300,000,000.
• 55:15
  You know? When you start thinking about Don Joe, you know, Don by Don Biden Leone, and these people are all mob bosses, you you fucking mob boss over. You know? He goes score shirts on you. I know.
• 55:26
  I'm Italian. I know how that I know how that works, like, in in my head, in my in my gut. Like, this is this is the way you deal with these people. I mean, there are other mob bosses are not particularly everybody's got one, but let's just you know? So every ethnicity has their own version of the mafia.
• 55:44
  You know? Right? So the Italians are just smarter than everybody, so I get the you know? Sorry. So what do you got?
• 55:53
  Right? You've got that twenty fifth amendment. Get rid of Joe. You can easily get Kamala Harris and two thirds of the cabinet to go along with this. Then it goes to congress.
• 56:05
  Now you just start arm twisting congress. They're all scared to death that Trump's gonna take office, and they're all and half of them are going to jail because they're all traitors. So will we see the uni party try to get rid of the the sitting president? Yes. It saw Kamala Kamala Harris as as commander in chief.
• 56:28
  Well, that doesn't mean anything. She's not gonna do it. Well, Putin has to do no. Putin doesn't have to do shit. Like, you've never heard of the con concept of false flag?
• 56:38
  The Brits have already pulled off at least three false flags during this war that they've tried to blame on the Russians. Bucha, the the the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant, the Cove Kokovka Dam. Every one of these. Nord Stream 2. They tried to blame Russia for a the Nord Stream 2 Bombing, for fuck's sake, these people.
• 56:57
  Okay? Like, nothing is below them. Ask anybody they've ever conquered. Fucking people with bad teeth and worse diet. Holy shit.
• 57:12
  Worst cuisine. Sorry. British cuisine should be an oxymoron.
• 57:17
  Seth Holehouse: So this is interesting because I've I've looked at you know, I've painted my own picture in my head of what's happening, and I really do believe that we're what we're seeing is the dismantling of this very evil system that has ruled this world for a very, very long time. But I haven't looked at it from this pers I've looked at it in the collapse of the mainstream media, the you know, what's happening with with big tech. I looked at all different vectors, and I've come to a very similar conclusion.
• 57:43
  Todd Callender: Those are valid vectors. Yeah. They're those are valid vectors.
• 57:45
  Seth Holehouse: But this, what you're telling me, I think, is actually it's it's the one of the giant puzzle pieces that is much more important than all the other ones. Right? Because, you you know, it's like all wars are bankers' wars. Right? And so so what you're saying here is that, basically, the said that the the banking the European banking cartel, to simplify its its name
• 58:10
  Todd Callender: Well, I can remember the term. Yeah.
• 58:11
  Seth Holehouse: Is is basically nearing its its end. Like, it it's on the verge of collapsing because they're holding so much US debt because Powell knows that he keeps interest rates high. He's bleeding them out. They're running out of option. They lent all this money to Ukraine hoping that something was gonna happen with how that war played out.
• 58:28
  They could then use that to pay off all their debts. That's not working out. So they're kind of stuck holding the hot potato. Can't issue
• 58:34
  Todd Callender: they've tried they've tried to issue Eurobonds, and they failed miserably. They've tried to create a European bond index to to for BlackRock to sell to the world. They've tried all of these things, and they're not working.
• 58:45
  Seth Holehouse: Because no one wants it.
• 58:46
  Todd Callender: They're not working because so now we're at the stage of yeah. So we can't do that, then we blow everything up. And we try to blame Putin for using nuclear weapons by going there first.
• 59:01
  Seth Holehouse: But if Putin is you know, has his soccer ball exchange with Trump, and he's also in the same way that you know? So I I also I believe that Biden you know, both Jill and Joe voted for Trump. So if Putin is also doing that, he knows what's going on. He he's trying to protect his country from the central banking system. And so they're now kinda teaming up to Right.
• 59:20
  Todd Callender: Maybe You don't wanna use those you don't wanna use those terms. You wanna say that they're traveling in they're traveling in the similar direction.
• 59:26
  Seth Holehouse: Or they have a mutual enemy.
• 59:28
  Todd Callender: Yeah. They they have a muse they like, the way I'm writing it up for my, my news max podcast, news max newsletter that I just I literally just wrote these words before we top on the call. So I'm working on, on that issue. I said, look. Putin is many things, ignorant of the depth of British hatred for all things Russia, and and its its attempts at over and its and its destruction of the Russian people over the last two hundred years is not one of them.
• 1:00:01
  Yeah. And so Putin has played this whole thing perfectly because he couldn't shock and awe his way into across Ukraine. That would easily have gotten the world on against him. It would have been a much easier sell of this this narrative that, oh, Putin's gonna blitzkrieg across Ukraine, and Poland's next, and this and that. Then we've done and and they're no.
• 1:00:32
  Block by block, street by street, demilitarize Ukraine. If you look very carefully and I was I was talking with my my partner, Dexter White, about this the other day. I said, we and we have fundamental disagreements about how Putin has handled the war and what, you know, what his aims are and everything else. And it's good. It's always a good and healthy disagreement because it error checks each other.
• 1:00:52
  But I said I said, do yourself a favor and really look at you know, go go on YouTube and watch any of these guys who are, you know, handling or covering the thing on a day to day basis, military summary or, you know, weed union or any of these these these these websites that are now literally just clickbait grifting. There's nothing's happening, and this is clearly how this war is ending. But that's fine. They they did they did Yeoman's work when it was necessary. You go look, and you see the layer upon layer upon layer upon layer upon layer of Ukrainian trenches and in in place in four in in place defenses and this and that and everything else.
• 1:01:29
  And the Russians are just grinding out every freaking one of them, and the last ones were about to fall. And then it's open field running to the Danube River. And the Russians have spent very few men and have rotated an awful lot of men through that war zone and now have a, I would say, probably the most battle hardened army on the planet other than maybe the Syrians, which is why the which is why the Israelis better keep it in their pants because they could wind up in a six front war very quickly if they don't if they don't watch themselves. That's what keeps why they keep trying to get the Americans to come onto their side, and the British keep fomenting things and escalating things and allowing Netanyahu to go freaking crazy. Why?
• 1:02:16
  Because they're trying to get a major war started because they need that war. They need to have the excuse to collapse their system, win, and replace it with their preferred outcome. And they don't know how to do anything else. They're now running around crazily doing stuff that is truly and utterly reckless. I wish you know, it was a couple weeks ago, I was using the metaphor of the end of, the miracle on ice as a way to to describe what's going on at Davos or Evil Corp Central as I'd like.
• 1:03:08
  Because Evil Corp Central actually has multiple verticals, one of which is Davos. Another one is the British remnant. Then you've got the you've got the the the Jewish Zionists. You've the Christian Zionists. You've the these guys, you got the Chinese.
• 1:03:19
  You you got you got Chinese actors. You've got the Middle Eastern actors. You got Indians. Everybody's in there's the whole group of various verticals. Some more powerful than others.
• 1:03:28
  Think of it like Microsoft under Steve Ballmer. Right? You know, there's the Windows and the office got the office verticals. Those are the two most powerful, Davos and the British remnant. Then you got all the other ones.
• 1:03:38
  It's actually by way, it's where all the good stuff at Microsoft was in the but, you know, just I don't even wanna get into a a discussion on that. But it's very similar to But go back to the Miracle on Ice. Go back to that last two minutes of that game. Right? And if you've watched the movie Miracle with Kurt Russell where he where we get that moment where he's it's the last minute of the game.
• 1:03:56
  They're up we're up by a goal. The Russians are putting unbelievable pressure on on Jim Craig and and the and the boys. They got they got us hemmed in our own end or running around screaming like chickens with their heads cut off, and Tikhanov doesn't pull his goaltender. And there's that great line where it dawns on Kurt Russell, Herb Brooks. He doesn't know what to do.
• 1:04:21
  And at that it's only at that moment that he finally says, oh my god. We can actually win this game. Because Tikhonov had never been in a position to lose a game like this with this much pressure. And what was going through Tikhonov's head at that point? It wasn't losing the game.
• 1:04:42
  It wasn't winning the game. It was what happens to me when I lose? What happens to my players when they lose? They're all gonna get they're they may get sent to the gulag. They may be this and that.
• 1:04:51
  All of that system, that all that pressure that those men were under, then they were men, and they were good. And a lot of them were good men. We know we watched them play in half of them were watched play in the NHL. Right? Or many of them were watched play in the NHL.
• 1:05:08
  And they were just ripping the sticks, nervous. Oh my god. How could we lose? Davos has never been in this position before. They don't know what this feels like.
• 1:05:24
  They've always been in control of all this stuff, and now they're about to lose. And they don't know how to deal with it. And so you can see how they've reacted to Putin over the last seven years or nine years now. I I I keep forgetting it's not 2022. Like, that his intervention in Syria was literally nine years ago, and Crimea is ten years ago now.
• 1:05:50
  God. I've been doing this way too long. Because to me, this is all, like, yesterday's history. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I those moments are so important that to me, they're like, they happened yesterday, but they didn't.
• 1:06:00
  They happened almost ten years ago now. You know, like, their escalatory framework from a geopolitical perspective and from a financial perspective and everything else, they've gone nuclear on on Putin multiple times for sanctions, nuclear level sanctions, then, you know, nuclear level first swift. Right. First, kick them out of the g seven or g the g eight. Then, you know, sanctions.
• 1:06:28
  And then, you know, the shock and awe sanctions of, and, you know, the the the ruble crisis and the oil shock of twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen. And then, you know, the Maidan, the this, all of this stuff. Like, they keep going nuclear on him, and he keeps standing. And it doesn't none of it works because he knows exactly how to play these people, which is you keep drawing it out. Because eventually they will draw themselves out and they will draw out all of their capital and they will expend everything.
• 1:06:55
  Just like I said, when I think what Matt case was bait. I think Putin has dangled bait out there many times. He doesn't want it to. He's like literally said to them, let's cut a deal. Nope.
• 1:07:05
  You lost this round. Let's cut a deal. Nord Stream too. Let's cut a deal. Oh, you're gonna get rid of South Stream?
• 1:07:11
  Fuck you. Cut a deal. I'm gonna build Nord Stream. Cut a deal. No.
• 1:07:16
  No. No. Bad Russian. No biscuits. Bad Russian.
• 1:07:19
  No biscuit. Same time. Over and over and over and over and over again. He's like, fine. So we shoot so the British and the Ukrainians shoot storm strata missiles into Russia.
• 1:07:29
  He responds by sending supposedly ICBMs. We won't we won't admit that they're ICBMs. Nobody wants to admit that they're probably the space based rockets that he's just got sitting up there on satellites, so he's just raining down from below, rain rain from above that no one can even deal with because they're not even ballistic. You know? If he has the weapon that he this this the Sarmat or whatever that thing is that that, you know, it's it's powered by a nuclear an onboard nuclear power dirty nuclear power plant and, you know, probably has lasers up on it as well to shoot lower lower lower earth orbit satellites out of out of space.
• 1:08:07
  Like, that thing's not very difficult to put together. Everybody, you know, the technology for putting strapping a a gen one nuclear reactor onto a, onto a missile and sticking it and having it circle the earth all day long, their doomsday device, it's old technology in in many ways. There's nobody's at the balls to build it. He has, though. And now the question is, is that what he shot at at the the, you know, last night?
• 1:08:41
  So we're in a different world. And then to to think that these people are going to go again one step further than they want to be new. And I'm telling everybody that I know right here, right now, if you're living in London, you're the target. It's not Kyiv. Putin knows where.
• 1:09:12
  He's been telling us for two and a half years, almost three now. I know who's doing this. Watch the Anglo Saxons, not the Americans. They'd effectively just declared war on the British, but not the Americans, even though we're supposedly implicated in all of this. We have been implicated by all this because the British put out a fucking meme that they're trying to blame us for when it's clear that we don't wanna do this.
• 1:09:48
  Well, there are member there are people within The United States power structure that still wanna do this because they work for that same group of people. But America doesn't want it. Donald Trump doesn't want it. None of this Cabot picks want it. They've all been signals that this is over.
• 1:10:05
  Even Marco Rubio as secretary of state. It's a clear signal that we that we wanna refocus foreign policy on Latin America and walk away from Asia. And that we'll fight a we'll fight an economic war through trade and tariff, you know, policy with, you know, with Asia and the BRICS, but not a kinetic war. Trump wants nothing to do with that. So we've got sixty days or so to get through.
• 1:10:32
  And between now and then, there's gonna be an attempted coup to keep either keep Trump from from being sat, meaning they're gonna try and I think they're gonna I I still think they're gonna try and, you know, they're gonna try and corrupt the electoral college vote. I think they are. I think they're setting up for it. I I don't know that they're gonna be successful. You know what I mean?
• 1:10:58
  I'm I'm not saying that I think that that's, you know, likely to to work. It all depends on how much pressure and how many men envelopes are slide being slapped on desks all around Washington right now from from Wall Street to military industrial complex to this to the intelligence communities and everything else. Who's gonna win that war? And then, of course, we have the deconfliction line between Russia and The United States. And anybody who tells you that they're not speaking right now is out of their fucking minds.
• 1:11:26
  They are.
• 1:11:29
  Seth Holehouse: So Trump They
• 1:11:30
  Todd Callender: may be doing it through back channels. They may be doing it through third parties, but they're still doing so.
• 1:11:35
  Seth Holehouse: So Trump must be aware of all all this we're talking about and and far more. So when he talks about this golden age and this this shift, it it's something that is based upon this. If if we live in an age where the European banking cartel has collapsed and it's no longer ruling, you know, through these tentacles, that's a pretty significant shift. Like, that's a golden age that is is like nothing that we've known in our lifetimes and and and the generations before us. That's a huge shift.
• 1:12:10
  Todd Callender: We haven't realized this in five hundred years. This is the end of five hundred years of history. I like to start at the formation of the Bank of England in 1694 because it augurs in the beginning of the age of central banks, but it's probably earlier than that. And there are other people out there who are far more qualified to talk about that history than I am.
• 1:12:29
  Seth Holehouse: So I'll just leave it Incredible. Well, Tom, I I think this has been one of the most fascinating conversations I've had in a very long time. Like, I'm I'm, like, I'm I'm glued to this. But we're we were
• 1:12:43
  Todd Callender: is it fascinating, isn't it? I wouldn't even say that it's that it's that I I again, I'm not I don't know if I'm right about, you know, even all of I'm or, yeah, I I I've not a majority of this. I hope I'm I hope in many ways that I am both right and tragically wrong and that the people who have were just empowered understand what the next move is to counter what the the moves that have been put on the table. That's what I'm hoping. I mean, there's a reason why I'm still doing podcasts and not, you know, bugging out to, I don't know where at this point.
• 1:13:20
  Like, you know, getting my family onto a plane, I don't know, like Guatemala or whatever. It's someplace. Right? It's an unacceptable level of risk that even at this moment in time I mean, but, again, that we're, you know, having to discuss the possibility of somebody throwing a nuke. And, to everybody in the audience who may or may not even believe that nukes exist, they exist.
• 1:13:47
  And that's just cope because you can't deal with the reality of the situation. The Earth isn't flat. They can't create hurricanes. We went to the moon, and there are nukes. Those are four bullshit things that have been thrown out there to make you disbelieve in the in the potency of the, of what's been created in order to maintain this this this this system.
• 1:14:11
  And those are all things that have been that have been pumped into the zeitgeist to fracture and seed malformation of both a an unearned omnipotence by these people, because they're not omnipotent. They're not even very powerful. They can't create hurricanes, folks. And and for and and to denigrate any great human achievement like going to the moon. It's part of the demoralization plan.
• 1:14:41
  You're better off believing all those things. You're better off disbelieving anything that, you know, has been put out there for you to for you to chew on Because they're probably it's, you know, it's it's you have to it it's not you you're what I'm saying is they put those things out there because their real plan is demoralization. They want you to look down at your feet and worry about the abyss that's opening up in front of you rather than look up and see Elon Musk throw rockets up into the sky and then catch them. And that's what we should be, and that's the promise, both metaphorically and physically. It's right there.
• 1:15:26
  It's right in front of you. And all we gotta do is get rid of these fucking people. TFP is why I call them just these fucking people. Leave it to this. And that's all we gotta do.
• 1:15:36
  But it's that's a big it's a big task. Yeah. A lot of work that needs to be done. Roll up your sleeves, folks. We got work to do, but it can be done.
• 1:15:45
  Now do you wanna do it, or do you just want to, you know, whine about it? Because if you wanna whine about it, hey. There are plenty of vacancies over in the Libertarian party. Have fun. I'm not interested.
• 1:16:03
  I gave that shit up for Lent twenty years ago, and I'm not even Catholic anymore. Mazel Tov. Not Jewish either. Not anything, obviously.
• 1:16:15
  Seth Holehouse: Well, there we go. So let me as we're kinda concluding here, I'll pull up your website so folks can can follow you and what you're writing about. Obviously, Twitter. I recommend folks follow you on Twitter. Here's your here's your your it's at t F L 17 20 8.
• 1:16:34
  Your web web page goldgoatsandguns.com. It's goldgoatsandguns.com. And, yeah, Tom, thank you for this discussion. I I've got a lot to think about. I learned a lot.
• 1:16:48
  There's probably equally an equal number of of new questions I have that I I I thought, you know, which is good. Like, that's what I want. Like, I I I wanna constantly be changing what I think is how the world works because I'm I'm not some super genius. Right?
• 1:17:04
  Todd Callender: No. No. I mean, the thing is is that is that this is what we do every day. Right? Is we're constantly trying to, you know, sharpen the pencil, draw a better picture.
• 1:17:13
  I'm a terrible artist, so I gotta draw pictures geopolitically. Right? Or you gotta, you know you know, and I'm only a half halfway decent musician. The the point being is that it's the search for not just it's not the search for truth as much as it's the search for meaning. Facts are in facts aren't on themselves, in and of themselves, are not interesting.
• 1:17:37
  Pricing this fact may lead to that fact and that fact and that fact. If you can't synthesize those facts into something that has a picture that has meaning, then those facts aren't interesting. I mean, that's what's important. And so everything else is you know? And then there's a lot of there's a lot of fact, know, uncovering, but there's not as much synthetic and syncretic analysis being done.
• 1:18:05
  And I don't you know, I'm not in I I I look at I look for for facts and and ask questions about what they mean. Why do we why asking the question all the time. Why do they want us to know this right now It's probably the most important question of our age. If you can do that on a regular basis, if you can step back from the abreaction of whatever just happened and ask you and ask that question, because, again, why the the origin of the tweet, right, so the inciting incident to this podcast, if the story of this podcast, this is the inciting incident of it, was my tweet about Jerome Powell. Understand that what that was born out of was the temp was the timing of the attack on the Federal Reserve chair the day after the elect the day after the FOMC meeting, which was the day after the election.
• 1:18:53
  They immediately went into end the Fed mode to activate the libertarians to carry their water for them. They know exactly what they were doing. And that to me is what was so important. But if you're not if you don't see if you hadn't come across the way I I view the world, and that's fine. And I'm not saying that, you know, my view is the correct one.
• 1:19:15
  But if you've never even been exposed to that idea or ever thought about it from that perspective, why would anybody you know? Oh my god. Great. We finally got a chance to to attack the fed. Well, did you ever think that on October eighth of last year, it was all of a sudden really fashionable to criticize the Jews after twenty five years of not being able to criticize the Jews?
• 1:19:35
  Did you ever think maybe that was part of the SIOP folks? What what strategic goal does that serve? And and I know that this you know, we're supposed to be wrapping up here, but that's the really important point. It's not that, you know, and I've taken a lot of criticism. I've taken a lot of heat for refusing to take a side in Israel Gaza.
• 1:20:00
  I think don't take a side in Israel Gaza for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is, one, I don't believe either of them are are are blameless or faultless. And two, the whole thing serves a grander geostrategic purpose that's far more cynical and far more disgusting than anything that Israel's done in the last the last thirteen months, as bad as that is. Because it serves the geostrategic interest of these people who gave us the freaking COVID mRNA vaccine that's killing millions of people every fucking month. Like, this is what you're dealing with, and you're gonna just, like, abreact about what Israel's doing. That's the point.
• 1:20:51
  It's not that what Israel's done is not terrible. It's that there's even greater evil in the world than that. And if you get caught up in that in in that evil, you miss this evil, and they're happy about that. You get to feel self righteous and correct emotionally. It's really vicious when you stop to really think about what they're what they're what they're laying on the table here.
• 1:21:19
  That's how vicious and vile these people are, that they would sacrifice tens of thousands of of of Gazans and and Israelis and Jews and everybody else in in the hope that we can get a new pogrom against Jews to let them continue to do what they're doing. I think That's why it's upon every one of us, Seth. This is the point point. And every one of us to constantly be looking for that deeper truth and that deeper meaning. That's the point.
• 1:22:01
  And don't get caught up in the games they want us to play. Yeah. And if we can teach and if I can be a small part of teaching that skill set to more people, we can beat these people because that's how we create a golden age. That's it. That's why I do what I do the way I do it.
• 1:22:29
  I don't shill for anyone. Hell. I didn't even, like, bring up the fact that you didn't mention my Patreon. I can give a shit. If you like what I do, you know I have a Patreon.
• 1:22:38
  Go do it. Give me money or not. I don't care. We have a world to save, folks. Let's go fucking do it.
• 1:22:47
  Let's do it right. Because otherwise, we're looking at this is the thing that really bothers me. This is the thing that scares me more than anything else. I feel like Paul Atreides. Because I can see the jihad.
• 1:23:03
  I can see the premen jihad coming. I I warned about this four years ago. I can see it coming from the right. I don't want that to happen. I want everybody to walk out.
• 1:23:12
  I want me to and all of us to walk out there and go, you guys are cute. You're hilarious. We're not doing that anymore. Next. You guys are cute.
• 1:23:22
  You're hilarious. We're not doing that either. We're doing this. Drill baby drill. Give us give us rational pricing of risk, and eventually, we'll get rid of the central banks, you know, and we'll pick a new system.
• 1:23:33
  And maybe it's Bitcoin. Maybe it's gold. I don't care. Whatever. We'll figure that out later.
• 1:23:36
  Let's have fun. But have fun doing it. I'm out. Done. I'll shut up.
• 1:23:44
  Seth Holehouse: Thank you, Tom. It was great.
• 1:23:46
  Todd Callender: You're
• 1:23:46
  Seth Holehouse: It was great. Mister Wade Leithart, thank you so much for joining us today. It's good to speak with you.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: Great to be here. Thanks for having me.
• 1:23:55
  Seth Holehouse: So you are the co cofounder of Bioptimizers, and which is something that I I'm a big believer. I'm a huge believer in magnesium, and and, you know, my wife and I were were all about health, but not health, which is like, hey, Fauci. What should I inject in myself next? Like, you know, health of you know, going back to, like, what I I believe God gave us, right, to stay healthy. And but right now, though, I'd say that what a lot of people are experiencing is stress.
• 1:24:21
  Maybe a little bit less stress now, you know, post election, but who knows what's coming next, but inability to sleep, just overall anxiety. And so how do you approach I know you're a a health fanatic, you know, bodybuilder. You you understand the human body very, very well. So how would you how would you approach that with somebody?
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So, you know, fundamentally, all of the elements that we need are were essentially supposedly built into our diet, but our diet's changed radically over the last hundred years, particularly with conventional farming, the use of fertilizers, pesticides, all these elements. And in North America, what that has led to is massive magnesium deficiencies. And people go, okay. Well, I, you know, I take out magnesium or whatever.
• 1:25:05
  But here's the the data and what's really impactful because we're looking at the average person needs just under five hundred milligrams of magnesium a day. Whatever diet strategy that you are going after, you know, plant based, vegetarian, if it fits your macro, whatever, carnivore, you are not going to be able to get enough magnesium if you're currently living in North America because it's simply not present in the soil and that's been accelerated. That's accelerated through the what the cattle eat or what your meat sources are or plant people and magnesium, I call it the miracle mineral and the reason for that is it's involved in over 600 functions. It controls blood sugar, heart rhythm. It is a vasodilator which means it opens up your arterial supply for blood flow.
• 1:25:56
  It also has a calming effect on the nervous system. It's a key element in how your microbiome works. It regulates, electrolyte levels. It maintains the ratio between calcium and magnesium. And if you don't have it, there's a good chance that some, many, or all of your magnesium dependent functions, 600 of them to no less are suboptimal and what do you experience?
• 1:26:24
  You experience a level of stress, a level of anxiety, an inability to calm down. It's oftentimes shows up in sleeping. It shows up as becoming overstimulated from caffeine. By the way, if you're a caffeine drinker that reduces your absorbability of caffeine or magnesium excuse me. Heart palpitations of course in these extreme cases are run severe magnesium deficiency.
• 1:26:52
  PMS is another one. People who suffer from high levels of PMS find supplementing with magnesium can alleviate that and then the final piece is the building of neurochemicals in your brain. So, people who are on antidepressants particularly are really susceptible for low magnesium levels as is the general public because it's a key element in building neurochemicals like serotonin, which makes you feel good. So what we have found is that if you don't feed the bacteria enough magnesium, they're not able to produce, which 95% of that's built in your gut, the neurochemicals that make your brain operate. And so many people are using prescriptions, which will accelerate it.
• 1:27:33
  Then there's one other piece. We live in an electromagnetic world. And what that means is our grandparents didn't have cell phones and electrical wires and all these sort of things that we're being subjected to now. The evidence suggests now that all of that stimulation actually increases our need for magnesium. So many of the RDAs are probably lower, and then there's a variance between genetics and lifestyle factors.
• 1:27:58
  If you're drinking caffeine, if you're, you know, not sleeping well, if you're in high city environments where there's a lot of Wi Fi and frequencies, and you're on cell phone or on your computer a lot, those things are gonna create increase the draw of magnesium, and many of the regulations that have been set don't meet that. So a lot of people said, hey. I'm gonna supplement with a magnesium, and I've been in this industry literally since I was 15 years old. So thirty seven, thirty eight years now we're going on. I have never seen a product like magnesium deal with so many of these symptoms people are reporting.
• 1:28:33
  And it all comes back to if you can get the elements that God put into the soil into your body, then your body knows how to use it. And if you don't have it, magnesium is one of those ones that you just can't manufacture or use an an alternative for.
• 1:28:45
  Seth Holehouse: It's interesting because I saw this going around online recently. There there's a handful of studies that have basically shown that, like, here, for instance, this was from 2013. It says magnesium supplementation beneficially affects depression in adults with depressive disorder, and I'm seeing a lot of people talk about this. I say, wait. Like, I can I'm not saying I can cure depression, but that you can help depression with just magnesium supplementation, not going on and getting on some sort of benzodiazepine or anything that's gonna you know, you're gonna be you kill yourself trying to detox off of.
• 1:29:16
  Right? So it makes sense, though, that, like, you know, I we garden, and, you know, plants need nutrients. And one the most important things is is is building your soil. If your soil doesn't have the right kind of nutrients, you have to add that into them, you know, with nitrogen fixers, etcetera. And so makes sense that the human body is also an organic, you know, entity like a plant is, and that we need the building blocks to be healthy and and to grow.
• 1:29:41
  And if our soil, which is where it should be coming from, which I think is also a really important point, that if our soil doesn't have it, then we're not gonna have it. And so that just like that plant's not producing very good peppers, we're gonna be depressed and angry all day because we don't have our new the the things we have in us. So now but with with magnesium though, is it so they they the recommended dose, but it sounds like that we have a deficiency far greater than what they're even saying because of, you know, five g towers everywhere, cell phones in our pockets, Starlink, any number of thing that we're dealing with. I mean, like, I'm sitting in front of 15 different monitors here, so I'm I'm, like, cooking my magnesium probably. So how much magnesium should the average adult be taking to and the other question is, can you take too much magnesium?
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Great question. There's gonna be a significant variability based on lifestyle and genetics. So the world of genetics and epigenetics means that you may have the great genes to absorb magnesium, or you might have poor genes from magnesium. If you're a caffeine drinker or not a caffeine drinker, if you're in a higher wireless environment, like wireless environment or a low wireless or in front of screens or not front of screens, all of those are contributing lifestyle factors, which will create a big variability for people.
• 1:30:58
  If you go back to the RDA, think they recommend about three sixty milligrams of elemental magnesium. Many of the magnesium out there doesn't provide a lot of elemental magnesium. So the old mistake, you'll see magnesium steroid on your, you know, some filler and think, I'm getting magnesium. No, you're not. That's just filler.
• 1:31:15
  It's not really absorbable. So when we did our deep dive, we have a lab in Bosnia with literally 20 PhDs and master students that do test to show not only does the magnesium get into yours into your body because it's a single canal from your mouth to your bum. It's not in your body. It's in the canal. It's got to translate through the microbiome that's a little probiotics and bacteria thing that converts that into the building blocks to the neurochemicals where we talked about serotonin 95% is built in your gut by these bacteria and magnesium is a key element to it.
• 1:31:48
  If you're missing magnesium, that's why a lot of people aren't able to produce those neurochemicals and that's why magnesium supplementation is now becoming involved inside of alternative psychophysiological protocols that people are developing. And I can't comment on as a doctor, but my wife said studying PhD in neurophysiology. And this is kind of where the new technology is addressing conditions through nutrition. Now with different magnesiums though, different types of magnesium have different absorb abilities and we believe that they can be taken up by different parts of the body. So when we tested virtually every magnesium molecule, there's malate, orotate, and citrate, and you're gonna see it.
• 1:32:26
  Which one's the best? Some like magnesiums like citrate will draw more water into the intestines and that if you take too much of can create the run. Citrate is the most popular one because it's the cheapest. It's also the one that's gonna have the most side effects. So a little bit if you're constipated is good.
• 1:32:44
  Too much you get the runts. Things like bisglycinate and orotate are very high things as well as malate. Some of them have been shown for blood sugar, some get more into neurochemistry to your brain, some get more into harder rhythms and vasodilation. So what we did is we put our team together to figure out all of this stuff to see which one's best and it turns out none are the best but if you combine a bunch of different magnesiums you get a synergistic result that is bigger than the addition. In other words, the compound and we found that seven types of magnesium in specific volumes showed the best results both at the microbiome level and also when we looked at the cells of does it get absorbed by the cells of your body.
• 1:33:30
  And so thus magnesium breakthrough came to fruition, and now we are the fastest growing magnesium in the market in retail. We're already second in Amazon. And a lot of these people is because they haven't dealt with magnesium. Like, they they have never had a magnesium product like this. And if you've tried any magnesium and you go to this one you are going to feel and see the difference.
• 1:33:52
  We recommend starting at two caps a day. You can do them just before bed or one in the morning one at night and if you're still feeling stressed or jittery from caffeine or not having sleeping just add one capsule periodically to your thing. So you might try it for a week and then say, I'm gonna go to three for a while. Eventually, you'll hit what's called saturation. In other words, you'll be able to titrate down probably to two caps a day, but that might take a few months to get there.
• 1:34:21
  Seth Holehouse: Okay. So here I've got the website up here, buyoptimizers.com. So, basically, so this magnesium breakthrough right here, So that you you obviously this looks like something you can stir into a drink, but you also have the the capsule form. And I'll say, actually, this is a side note that my youngest, you know, my or my older daughter, when she was younger, you know, when she was one to two years old, she had trouble with constipation, and and, you know, we're we're looking for different kinds of solutions and changing her diet. We we use MiraLAX a couple of times, which I I regret so much because I I you know, finding out has all kinds of really bad side effects, of course, but we found out actually that magnesium, a little bit magnesium was all she needed.
• 1:35:01
  It helped pull water into her intestinal tract, and then that was it. It solved the problem. So now it's funny we call it her we call it special water, and so sometimes before bed, just say, hey, you want your special water. Right? Because, you know, she stirs a little bit in there and drinks it, and it's a little bit of a reward for her.
• 1:35:15
  So I've also noticed myself that it when taking it that I just I sleep better. I'm I'm more rested. I wake up, you know, sometimes I used to I I feel like I would wake up kind of like the world's on fire. It's like, oh gosh. Like, what's going on?
• 1:35:30
  You know? So it's it's more of a smooth wake up, and it just I mean, overall, it's just you feel better. Like, my muscles don't cramp as much from working out. There's all kinds of benefits for it. And so so, basically, though, what you're saying is that, like, not all magnesium is the same.
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  There's a lot of big brand magnesium out there that might just have, you know, one or two forms. So you're saying that, you know, magnesium breakthrough has what is it? Like, seven different types of magnesium?
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  Speaker 3: Seven seven different forms. We have it available in a powder, also in a cap. Some people like to drink because it's tasty and fruity. And some people really like the athletes particularly because they have higher levels of magnesium because it's the relaxation part of their muscles. So yeah, gives you just kind of take it and super easy.
• 1:36:12
  And the best part about our company is we have a three sixty five day money back guarantee. If you're on magnesium, and you try ours and it's not blows away your other magnesium, we ask please let us refund your money. Number two, if you've never tried magnesium say I don't know I'm not sleeping as well as I could have. I'd like to improve my sleep or I'd like to feel a little bit more relaxed or less stressed. If you don't feel that within the first week or two, let alone three hundred and sixty five days, we humbly request to get our money back.
• 1:36:48
  But guess what? We have the lowest refunds of the entire industry, the best customer service you can talk to real people. And I believe that you have a discount that you can offer.
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  Seth Holehouse: I do actually. Yeah. So, buy optimizers.com/wholehouse, h 0 l e h 0 u s e, or just using whole house at the checkout. You know, folks will get a discount on on the order. And and my my recommendation is just putting it on auto, you know, but just so you get it every month because
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 3: Bigger savings.
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  Seth Holehouse: It's bigger savings. And to me, it's like, I'm not a big believer. Don't I don't have a whole medicine cabinet full of things, but to me, magnesium is one of the, like, the the core, you know, supplements that I would take every day. You know, magnesium, creatine, like a very, very pure creatine, a few other things like that. To me, there there it's it's just overall brain, physical health.
• 1:37:33
  You know, you can't beat it. So, Wade, thank you so much for for, you know, chatting with us today. I'll bring up the website one more time so folks can see it. So buyoptimizers.com. Some people call it biooptimizers, but I think you and I both you know, we we talked about before, so it's biooptimizers officially.
• 1:37:50
  So buyoptimizers.com/wholehouse or just using whole house at the checkout will get you a discount on that. So any final thoughts as we're wrapping up?
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Also, we have a wonderful course that's available when you go on the site called the awesome health course. It's a free course, and it kinda outlines the seven pillars that I've allowed people to go from sick to superhuman. It's a free course. It's not supplement oriented.
• 1:38:13
  It's actually lifestyle oriented. And so a lot of people it's our most popular education course. It's absolutely free, and it helps the person discern between good information, where they need to prioritize their time, their money, and energy. We know the holidays are coming up. Probably everything's gonna go off, know, you know, the rails as they say.
• 1:38:32
  But as you get into January, this can help you guide where you put your time, your effort, your energy for maximum results to feel the best that you can. It's just a little other value add. And, of course, if have any questions, reach out to our staff. We have real people. It's not bots.
• 1:38:46
  It's not AI. It's real service agents that are there to answer any question that you have, and we'd love to hear from you.
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  Seth Holehouse: Fantastic. Yeah. I'm thinking, you know, things can come up. It's like, okay. My mom makes the pumpkin roll.
• 1:38:57
  I usually eat about half one of the pumpkin rolls, and it's like, I get in trouble with with with that. So it's good to have these things to help balance out. Well
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 3: Berberine breakthrough on the website. Berberine breakthrough cuts blood sugar response a significant amount. A couple of those caps before those big meals is really good, and you'll get the same discount. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:39:14
  Berberine breakthrough. It's amazing for blood sugar. Oh. People who monitor their blood sugar are shocked about how it reduces the cravings as well as the blood sugar response inside
• 1:39:25
  Todd Callender: of the bun.
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  Seth Holehouse: Well, there you go. So here here's your Yeah. Eat this, and then you can eat as much, you know, pumpkin pie as you want.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 3: And and the good news is that we are made in America, so you're buying American, and, you're dealing with an American company. So we're really proud of that too.
• 1:39:42
  Seth Holehouse: And most importantly, you support independent American media like me, which is what keeps us on the air. So I I'm I'm humbly grateful for the opportunity to have you on, and and thank you for what you're doing. I really appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: It's a two way trail. Thank you. Seth.
• 1:39:55
  Seth Holehouse: Of course.