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FairT: Eugenio Suárez deadline destinations, Boone/Yankees stumble, Dustin May trade bait? · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to the Thursday edition of Fair Territory. I'm
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Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal here with Alana Rizzo and Alana. We are
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Speaker 1: one week away from the trade deadline and we're going
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Speaker 1: to get into all that, but first we have to
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Speaker 1: talk about a bungling, blundering team wearing pinstripes.
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Speaker 2: Let's get to them.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Ken, Hi, good to be with you as always
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Speaker 3: on this Thursday. I tell you what it seems like
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Speaker 3: the New York Yankees, at least temporarily, are taking a
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Speaker 3: page out of the Bad News Bears book. Ken, what
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Speaker 3: more can you tell us about just the fundamental defense
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Speaker 3: that doesn't seem to be there?
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Speaker 1: Well, last night was basically an embarrassment and eight to
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Speaker 1: four loss to the Toronto Blue Jays, the team they
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Speaker 1: are chasing in the Ale East. The Yankees made four
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Speaker 1: errors in three innings. At one point there were other
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Speaker 1: players that were not errors that were not made, and
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Speaker 1: that makes twelve errors in ten games against the Jays
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Speaker 1: this season. Now, afterward, Aaron Boone said that really they've
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Speaker 1: been a good defensive team, but they had two bad
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Speaker 1: series in Toronto. Okay, perhaps, but this speaks to a
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Speaker 1: much larger issue, and I wrote about it today in
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Speaker 1: my column, just the idea that in the eyes of
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Speaker 1: many Yankee fans, Boone is way too forgiving of his
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Speaker 1: players publicly, way too soft on them. And what I
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Speaker 1: wrote essentially was his public comments essentially are irrelevant. They
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Speaker 1: don't matter in the long run. What matters is performance,
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Speaker 1: how the team performs on the field, and if Boone
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Speaker 1: is holding them accountable behind the scenes, that's all that
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Speaker 1: really matters. If they play better, and when they play
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Speaker 1: like this, and they have at various points this season,
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Speaker 1: and this goes back years now under Boone, it makes
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Speaker 1: you wonder what the heck is going on if indeed,
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Speaker 1: behind the scenes he is being more firm, holding players
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Speaker 1: more accountable. If he is, it isn't showing on the field,
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Speaker 1: And that to me is the issue, not so much
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Speaker 1: him being too soft here and too milk toast, even
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Speaker 1: though I know a lot of fans feel at times
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Speaker 1: he's gaslighting them by essentially saying, now, what you're seeing
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Speaker 1: is okay.
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Speaker 2: It's not okay.
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Speaker 1: He knows that, but he needs to relay that, I
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Speaker 1: would think to the players privately, and.
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Speaker 2: Whether that is going on, to what extent that is
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Speaker 2: going on.
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Speaker 3: We don't know ken if you ask the players, though
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Speaker 3: they love playing for him. Cameron Mayban, of course, who
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Speaker 3: does stuff here with us on Foul Territory, was saying
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Speaker 3: he played for Aaron Bone and he absolutely loves playing
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Speaker 3: for him. Do you think that is because he has
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Speaker 3: given them too much rope? Or he truly does have
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Speaker 3: their back publicly but does hold them accountable behind closed doors.
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Speaker 3: Not certain that you know that answer, But why do
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Speaker 3: you think it is that the players love him even
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Speaker 3: though there's this perception that he's not perhaps holding them accountable.
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Speaker 1: They love him because he does have their back, that's
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Speaker 1: absolutely right alone in my estimation. And they love him
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Speaker 1: also because he's an excellent communicator. He is a guy
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Speaker 1: who is not so far removed from being a player himself.
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Speaker 1: Understands the give and take of the game, understands how
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Speaker 1: difficult it is, understands also the added pressure of playing
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Speaker 1: in New York and what that means.
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Speaker 2: Some people might have.
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Speaker 1: Seen the exchange he had with John Boy on his
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Speaker 1: weekly show with Them this week, and those guys were
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Speaker 1: asking about players not giving fiery public comments, not expressing
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Speaker 1: greater or more acute disappointment, and his point was, hey,
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Speaker 1: I don't want them like that. I want them on
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Speaker 1: an even keel. Now in baseball, because we play one
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Speaker 1: hundred and sixty two games, that is the preferred way
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Speaker 1: to go, and that is all okay, But at some point,
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Speaker 1: this is the point of what I wrote again, there
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Speaker 1: has to be accountability and there has to be some
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Speaker 1: level of crispness to a team's play. It's not just
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Speaker 1: the Yankees that play like this in this day and age,
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Speaker 1: in fairness to them, but we saw in Game five
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Speaker 1: of last year's World Series. We've seen at various points
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Speaker 1: over the last several years this kind of sloppiness, and
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Speaker 1: it drives fans nuts, and it should drive the Yankees
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Speaker 1: brass nuts.
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Speaker 3: Ken does it beg the question that perhaps one of
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Speaker 3: the reasons that Aaron Boone was hired was because Joe
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Speaker 3: Girardi was too rigid, maybe wanting his players to be
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Speaker 3: too rigid, and that just doesn't necessarily go over with
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Speaker 3: the player of today. Is that part of the reason
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Speaker 3: why he was attractive As far as a new manager,
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Speaker 3: a new voice, Alana.
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Speaker 1: We see it all the time. It's a great point
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Speaker 1: you're making. They go from one extreme to the other.
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Speaker 1: Joe Girardi was too rigid, He was not as good
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Speaker 1: a communicator as perhaps he could have been, and that
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Speaker 1: was at least the perception in that clubhouse, the perception
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Speaker 1: the front office had of Girardi. It was time, so
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Speaker 1: they went to a guy who had never managed before,
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Speaker 1: Aaron Boone at any level, but of course has had
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Speaker 1: great success. Look at the wins and losses. Third most
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Speaker 1: wins in the Majors since he took over, took him
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Speaker 1: to the World Series last year for the first time
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Speaker 1: since two thousand and nine. So definitely, at some level,
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Speaker 1: Aaron Boone's tenure is a huge success. But at the
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Speaker 1: same time, as I point out in the column, it
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Speaker 1: seems like at times they've almost gone too far the
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Speaker 1: other way. In this happy camp that they have, or a
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Speaker 1: happy environment that they have, it might be too soft
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Speaker 1: an environment.
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Speaker 2: I'm looking for the right words and maybe not finding them.
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Speaker 1: But this is the give and take that managers face.
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Speaker 1: And you're right, Alana. In today's game, you can't be
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Speaker 1: ear a Weaver or Billy Martin, or even when Jim
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Speaker 1: Leland used to be. You cannot get in players' faces.
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Speaker 1: They will not respond and you will lose them. But
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Speaker 1: The measure of a manager, in my opinion, is if
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Speaker 1: he keeps his team playing hard, which I would say
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Speaker 1: Boone does, and if he keeps his team playing at
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Speaker 1: a high fundamental level, that is where the Yankees have
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Speaker 1: fallen short.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, perhaps a happy medium is in there somewhere. Certainly
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Speaker 3: not saying Aaron Boone should be fired. He gets to
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Speaker 3: the postseason perennially, but there's got to be some sort
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Speaker 3: of give and take there in terms of that. All right,
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Speaker 3: moving on, Ken, let's talk a bit about the trade deadline.
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Speaker 3: As you mentioned, it's about a week away. Henneo Suarez
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Speaker 3: seems to be on the top of a lot of
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Speaker 3: club's minds. What more can you tell us about that.
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Speaker 1: Best that are available in a thin market at midley.
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Speaker 1: He is having an amazing season, all the home runs,
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Speaker 1: and the Diamondbacks just got swept by the Astros at home,
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Speaker 1: an Astros team that has seventeen players on the injured
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Speaker 1: list and somehow is tied with the Toronto Blue Jays
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Speaker 1: for the best record in the American League. Good for them,
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Speaker 1: but from the Diamondbacks perspective, and I wrote about this
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Speaker 1: earlier this week and a little bit today as well,
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Speaker 1: they don't want to sell. That is against what their
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Speaker 1: general manager, Mike Hayson stands for. It's against what their
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Speaker 1: owner Ken Kendrick wants to do. And at the same
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Speaker 1: time they have.
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Speaker 2: To look at reality.
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Speaker 1: They are fading in the wildcard race. They've got a
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Speaker 1: ton of injuries, and this is what.
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Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier this week.
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Speaker 1: They have a number of potential free agents that they're
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Speaker 1: not going to all bring back. So at some point
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Speaker 1: you have to get something for some of these guys. Now,
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Speaker 1: with regard to Suarez, see Trent Rose of The Athletic
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Speaker 1: Today reporting that the Reds are among the teams interested,
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Speaker 1: and we've heard about the Cubs and the Yankees, of course,
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Speaker 1: the Mariners. All of these teams are interested. I wrote
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Speaker 1: today that the Brewers should be interested, but I put
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Speaker 1: a caveat in there. It's spring training. I kind of said, Man,
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Speaker 1: the owner doesn't spend it. If they don't play well
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Speaker 1: this season, it's on him. Guess what they didn't spend
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Speaker 1: their playing He's laughing all the way to the bank,
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Speaker 1: and he's laughing at me. I'm sure too. So the
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Speaker 1: Brewers do it their way. They're unique, for sure, but
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Speaker 1: they also need power and if you look at their
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Speaker 1: slugging numbers, they're hard hit percentages, all of that, Alana,
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Speaker 1: it's not great. Suarez would help.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems like the Brewers are almost kind of
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Speaker 3: like the Tampa Bay Rays in the National League. Those
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Speaker 3: two clubs seem to do things their own way, and
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Speaker 3: it seems to continue to work itself out all right,
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Speaker 3: trade deadlines on everybody's vind Ken. What do you see
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Speaker 3: happening with right hand or Dustin May of the Los
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Speaker 3: Angeles Dodgers. I mean, do you see him going to
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Speaker 3: a bullpen roll when Blake Snell comes back, or do
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Speaker 3: you see his days with the Dodgers being done?
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Speaker 1: I can see either scenario, Alana. And what we reported
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Speaker 1: today is that the Dodgers are at least willing to
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Speaker 1: listen on Dustin May as you would expect.
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Speaker 2: He's a potential free agent.
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Speaker 1: He might be back, he might not, but he's the
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Speaker 1: kind of picture that certainly would be in some demand,
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Speaker 1: even though he's been a little bit uneven this year.
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Speaker 1: The other option, though, of course, is to put Dustin
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Speaker 1: May in the bullpen. And I want to put this
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Speaker 1: question to you, what do you think Dustin May could
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Speaker 1: do for the Dodgers as either a long man or
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Speaker 1: a piggyback guy. With shoe Heotani, how valuable could he
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Speaker 1: be in that role?
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Speaker 3: Ken, I think that's been the role for him right
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Speaker 3: the last couple of outings. I mean, shoe Heyo Tani
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Speaker 3: has gone out there and pitched an inning or two
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Speaker 3: or whatever, and then Dustin May comes out to be
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Speaker 3: the relief guy in terms of the bulk amount of
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Speaker 3: work before they actually go to their bullpen. But I
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Speaker 3: have been saying this since the season started, Ken, I
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Speaker 3: really feel like Dustin May's stuff plays better in the bullpen.
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Speaker 3: I think he has really good stuff for about three
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Speaker 3: three plus innings and not necessarily for a starter that
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Speaker 3: you want to be able to go deep into the ballgame.
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Speaker 3: With Blake Snell coming back, I would love to see
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Speaker 3: Dustin I don't want Dustin May to be traded, although
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Speaker 3: what are you going to get in return? And Andrew
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Speaker 3: Friedman hates over paying for relievers, but with this relief
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Speaker 3: market and the fact that the Dodgers desperately need bullpen
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Speaker 3: help because of the injuries and lack of production. Now
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Speaker 3: Tanner Scott is on the il Kirby Yates doesn't look good.
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Speaker 3: You know Evan Phillips is out for the season, Blake
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Speaker 3: Trianon is coming back soon. I would love to see
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Speaker 3: Dustin May as a long man in the Dodgers' bullpen again.
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Speaker 3: It just kind of seems we'll just have to wait
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Speaker 3: and see. I asked for Andrew Friedman and Dave Roberts
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Speaker 3: to come on Dodgers' territory today. They haven't written me
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Speaker 3: back yet. Ken, I'm not sure why.
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Speaker 1: A lot of one more point on this, and obviously
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Speaker 1: the Dodgers have trouble keeping pictures healthy.
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Speaker 2: Would you trade a healthy.
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Speaker 1: Pitcher a guy who is second on your team and
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Speaker 1: innings pitched at the same time. They've gotten burned trading
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Speaker 1: prospects for relievers over the years O'Neil Cruz for Tony
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Speaker 1: Watson Jr. Don Alvarez for Josh Field's, Zach McKinstry for
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Speaker 1: Chris Martin.
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Speaker 2: The Dodgers do not want to do this again.
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Speaker 1: They've got a ton of prospects. They can make trades
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Speaker 1: with those prospects, but maybe they see May as one
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Speaker 1: other way to go.
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Speaker 3: What's your jam? When when Adam Aman is on the
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Speaker 1: Well, Elvis, Adam A Mean's style of music, what he
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Speaker 1: plays is not necessarily my number one taste. I like
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Speaker 1: all kinds of music. I do like alternative, I do
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Speaker 1: like Springsteen, I like all those kinds of things rock.
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Speaker 1: But when Adam a means rolling like he was rolling
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Speaker 1: Saturday night in Chicago. I'm not one to suggest he
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Speaker 1: should do anything other than what he's doing.
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Speaker 3: Look at that photo. That is a framer. Is it
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Speaker 3: a rite of passage or is that something like when
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Speaker 3: card or whatever it's called, do you have to prove
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Speaker 3: that you're a spring Steen fan in order to get
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Speaker 1: Alana, it is a running joke among writers of a
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Speaker 1: certain age let's say that category. And yes, most in
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Speaker 1: that age category do like Springsteen, and the younger ones
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Speaker 1: give us a hard time all the time about that,
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Speaker 1: and I just advise them to go to a show
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Speaker 1: sometimes and then report back to me.
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Speaker 3: Yes, Ken Rosenthal, Ken Gernick, Bill Plunkett, Joel Sherman, I
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Speaker 3: the Boss. Okay, here's a question from our YouTube channel,
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Speaker 3: Alejandro Chavari. What should the Astros do for the trade deadline?
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Speaker 3: With so many injuries you had mentioned, Ken, they have
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Speaker 3: seventeen guys on the IL right now, lots of pictures
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Speaker 3: coming back from injuries, and a backup team that doesn't
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Speaker 3: seem to stop winning. Could a trade set them back?
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Speaker 3: Do they have all that they need?
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Speaker 1: Basically, Alejandra, what they're doing is incredible. I don't know
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Speaker 1: that we can talk enough about it. Jospota is going
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Speaker 1: to be a leading candidate for American League of the Year.
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Speaker 1: Trade wise. The loss of Parades Zach Parades to what
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Speaker 1: looks like a significant hamstring injury that could force them
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Speaker 1: to make an infielder a priority. That's one.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: They do have Spencer Arraghetti and Luis Garcia expected back
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Speaker 1: in August, but they have talked about a top of
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Speaker 1: the rotation starter as well, not that one is really available,
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Speaker 1: or they've talked about another higher leverage reliever. Though they
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Speaker 1: have one of the best back end bullpens in the game.
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Speaker 1: I expect them to be active. That's Dana Brown's nature
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Speaker 1: as general manager, Jim Crayden's nature as owner. Now they've had,
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Speaker 1: of course financial concerns at various points over the years,
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Speaker 1: but when competitive at the deadline, they generally have done things,
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Speaker 1: and I expect them to do something as well, maybe
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Speaker 1: multiple things.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I tell you what We're always like, Oh, maybe
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Speaker 3: this is the year that the Astros just have to
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Speaker 3: kind of push pause and rebuild, and here they are
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Speaker 3: again probably running away for the you know, the the
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Speaker 3: Al West, back into that postseason. Okay, Cubs question for
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Speaker 3: you here on Grill and Ken as we continue with this,
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Speaker 3: Mike g wants to know are Cubs viewed among league
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Speaker 3: execs as having a prospect package that could land an
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Speaker 3: ACE caliber starting pitcher like a Joe Ryan, a Mackenzie Gore?
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Speaker 3: Would Casey Wiggins plus be hard to turn down.
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Speaker 1: I don't know that they are short in prospects. What
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Speaker 1: I would answer that question with is a question of
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Speaker 1: my own, which is are the Twins willing to trade
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Speaker 1: Joe Ryan and are the Nationals willing to trade Mackenzie Gore.
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Speaker 1: Joe Ryan has two years of control after this year.
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Speaker 1: As I wrote the other day, the Twins are for sale.
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Speaker 1: A new owner could come in and presumably would ease
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Speaker 1: the payroll restrictions that the Polad family has put on
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Speaker 1: and enable them to build a good team.
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Speaker 2: Again.
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Speaker 1: They have a good team, good talent, They're not a
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Speaker 1: good team. So when we're talking about Joe Ryan and
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Speaker 1: John Duran and Griffin Jacks, if I'm the Twins, all
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Speaker 1: those guys have two more years of control. Why am
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Speaker 1: I trading them unless I'm getting completely not over And
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Speaker 1: I don't know that even a massive prospect package would
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Speaker 1: be enough because I want to win sooner.
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Speaker 2: So that's one.
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Speaker 1: Mackenzie Gore is a separate issue. The Nationals, somewhat like
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Speaker 1: the Twins, are in an uncertain state. They are a
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Speaker 1: team with an interim general manager, Mike de Barblow, and
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Speaker 1: a team where ownership needs to choose or decide where
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Speaker 1: exactly they are going with this. The rebuild has kind
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Speaker 1: of stalled. I wouldn't say failed exactly, but it hasn't
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Speaker 1: been as quick and productive as they would have wanted.
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Speaker 1: That's one reason they dismissed the President of Baseball Operations,
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Speaker 1: presumably Mike Rizzo. So here's Gore. Yes, he's at the
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Speaker 1: same level of service Juan Soto was in twenty twenty two,
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Speaker 1: two plus years remaining. But do the Nationals want to
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Speaker 1: do this right now, when you have an interim GM,
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Speaker 1: when you have traded guys away really your entire existence
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Speaker 1: big stars? Or do you want to keep Mackenzie Gore
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Speaker 1: for now and stay the course and revisit this once
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Speaker 1: you're more settled.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Max, Sure's or Trey Turner, Juan Soto, Mackenzie Gore
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Speaker 3: would be in line with those types of superstars that
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Speaker 3: you're talking about. Ken all right, another question here for
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Speaker 3: you on our YouTube chat, this one from two Goofballs.
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Speaker 3: Is Mikel Garcia a real interest for the Yankees? Are
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Speaker 3: the Royals interested in shipping him?
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Speaker 1: The Royals are one of those teams right now that
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Speaker 1: we're kind of waiting to see what they do. They
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Speaker 1: just won two or three from the Cubs. They want
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Speaker 1: desperately to be in contention. They don't want to sell.
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Speaker 1: They're sort of like the Diamondbacks in that respect. But
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Speaker 1: I don't see them, even if they sell, trading Mikel
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Speaker 1: Garcia All Star this year. A guy who's a really
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Speaker 1: good player, very useful around the diamond. He plays third,
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Speaker 1: could play other positions as well. I don't see him
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Speaker 1: being an option. The Yankees third base options, at least
17:53
Speaker 1: on the surface are obviously Juhueno Suarez, Ryan McMahon, Kee,
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Speaker 1: Brian Hayes, those three, and I'm sure beyond that, Willie
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Speaker 1: Castro of the Twins that's a possibility, and he'd be
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Speaker 1: a useful player for them. He might be my favorite
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Speaker 1: of all.
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Speaker 2: Those guys for the Yankees.
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Speaker 1: So I don't see MIKEL. Garcia being a guy, but
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Speaker 1: they're gonna do something in third base, no doubt.
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Speaker 3: Can Do you think the likelihood of any teams that
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Speaker 3: this trade deadline doing more than a two team trade
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Speaker 3: as possible? Three team trades always freak me out a
18:24
Speaker 3: little bit. I mean, do you see that happening with
18:26
Speaker 3: just the way that the market is right now and
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Speaker 3: so many teams in contention, good.
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Speaker 1: Question, Alanna, and two team trades are difficult enough to
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Speaker 1: pull off, but three team trades are even more difficult.
18:38
Speaker 2: Now that said, we've seen.
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Speaker 1: Aj Preller, we've seen other guys or other gms I
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Speaker 1: should say, involve third teams over the years, and certainly
18:47
Speaker 1: I expect that that can be the case this year
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Speaker 1: as well. It's not easy to do. I remember way
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Speaker 1: back when I was first starting as a national writer,
18:55
Speaker 1: a five team trade at the deadline, the.
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Speaker 2: No trade, the Nomarch trade, team trade.
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Speaker 1: But whether that happens again beyond two teams, we'll see.
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Speaker 3: I can't even imagine that. A lot of moving parts
19:08
Speaker 3: with that. Happy birthday to Nomar by the way, that
19:10
Speaker 3: was yesterday, So happy birthday to no more Garcia part
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Speaker 3: all right, much more to come on fat Fair Territory
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Speaker 1: Dude, dude, dude.
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Speaker 3: All right, Ken, let's give some folks their flowers. Who
20:35
Speaker 3: is your due to the week for this week?
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Speaker 1: All right, Alana, we were just talking about men of
20:39
Speaker 1: a certain age. Well, I'm gonna give my due to
20:41
Speaker 1: the week to a man of a certain age forty
20:44
Speaker 1: five years old, Which Hill pitching for the Kansas City
20:47
Speaker 1: Royals Tuesday night against the Cubs. Five innings, three runs,
20:51
Speaker 1: but only one was earned. It was amazing to me
20:54
Speaker 1: to see which Hills step back into a major league
20:56
Speaker 1: environment and do what he did. Good for him. He's
21:00
Speaker 1: just keeps going and going and going.
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Speaker 2: Rich Hill, due to the week.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you. I sent him a text.
21:06
Speaker 3: I said, welcome back, Dick Mountain. He said, Alana, thank you.
21:09
Speaker 3: Great to be back out there. Rich Hill has one
21:12
Speaker 3: of the most sneaky, funny personalities I've ever ever seen.
21:17
Speaker 3: He seems very like stoic and always has very thoughtful answers,
21:20
Speaker 3: very poetic and then he gets into a charter plane
21:23
Speaker 3: and he gets on the microphone that is used for
21:25
Speaker 3: the flight attendants and has the entire team rolling. Good
21:28
Speaker 3: for him, Good for his wife, Caitlin. It's good to
21:30
Speaker 3: see him still out there. He's like the new Jamie Moyer.
21:33
Speaker 1: Right.
21:34
Speaker 3: All right, my dude of the week, I'm going to
21:36
Speaker 3: give it to three teams who easily can could have
21:39
Speaker 3: thrown in the towel wave the white flag, if you will,
21:42
Speaker 3: the Rockies, the Marlins, and the White Sox. I don't
21:45
Speaker 3: give the Due to the Week award to the organizations.
21:48
Speaker 3: I give the Dude to the World Dude of the
21:50
Speaker 3: Week award to the players themselves, because they could easily say,
21:55
Speaker 3: you know what, forget it, We're not going anywhere. I mean,
21:57
Speaker 3: maybe some of them are trying to showcase their talent
22:00
Speaker 3: so other teams can pick them up and get them
22:02
Speaker 3: the hell out of Colorado, Miami and Chicago. But they
22:06
Speaker 3: are my dudes of the week for not giving up
22:08
Speaker 3: and putting together some decent games and some decent series. Okay,
22:13
Speaker 3: time now for the John Fisher Dork of the week. Okay,
22:25
Speaker 3: who's your dork of the week, ken hold On.
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Speaker 1: I want to start off by saying, I have a
22:29
Speaker 1: ton of respect for major league umpires, a ton of
22:32
Speaker 1: sympathy for major league umpires who take grief night after
22:36
Speaker 1: night after night. Some of it deserved, but much of
22:39
Speaker 1: it not. That said, there are times when an umpire snaps,
22:43
Speaker 1: understandably snaps and crosses the line. Chad Witson crossed the
22:48
Speaker 1: line the other night when he went to the Giants clubhouse.
22:53
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, dugout, and you could see it right there.
22:56
Speaker 1: He yelled, worry about getting out of the third inning.
22:59
Speaker 1: Now we don't know for sure that he was directing
23:03
Speaker 1: at it justin Verlander, but Justin Verlander the night before
23:06
Speaker 1: had not gotten out of the third inning. So it
23:08
Speaker 1: stands the reason that's who Chad Witson was yelling at.
23:12
Speaker 1: And there are certain things that go on on the field,
23:15
Speaker 1: back and forth that.
23:16
Speaker 2: You can understand.
23:17
Speaker 1: You can understand managers getting hot, you can understand on
23:19
Speaker 1: pirates getting hot. But that, to me crossed the line.
23:23
Speaker 1: With a future Hall of Famer, that was just not right. Now.
23:26
Speaker 1: I have no idea what Verlander might have said to
23:28
Speaker 1: prompt it, if indeed that is what happened. But at
23:31
Speaker 1: the same time, that was not a good look. So
23:33
Speaker 1: Chad witson without knowing more information, You're my dork of
23:37
Speaker 1: the week.
23:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense. My doork of the week is
23:40
Speaker 3: and it's hard to say this because obviously he's an
23:43
Speaker 3: unbelievable player and unbelievable person, but Sho Hee Otani is
23:46
Speaker 3: my dork of the week only because Ken And this
23:49
Speaker 3: might lie on the hands of the Dodgers too. I
23:51
Speaker 3: don't know, but I know that there have been a
23:54
Speaker 3: lot of rule changes in terms of the way that
23:56
Speaker 3: the media is allowed to interview some folks after games
23:59
Speaker 3: one and show Heyotani became a Dodger. There's just certain
24:02
Speaker 3: things parameters that have that they have to now follow
24:05
Speaker 3: and show hey Otani yesterday tied a franchise record with
24:08
Speaker 3: five straight home runs. He has five straight games with
24:11
Speaker 3: a home run in each game. Obviously the record is
24:13
Speaker 3: eight right, eight straight games with the home run, but
24:16
Speaker 3: it did tie a Dodgers franchise record. He also was
24:19
Speaker 3: intentionally walked, obviously, just you know, gamesmanship type of situation
24:25
Speaker 3: by the Twins, but he didn't make himself available after
24:28
Speaker 3: the game. And again, could that have been a Dodgers call?
24:31
Speaker 3: Could that have been a show Hey call that bothers
24:33
Speaker 3: me because as a media member and as a journalist,
24:36
Speaker 3: we have our jobs to do too, and that's a
24:37
Speaker 3: big part of the story, right, It wasn't as if
24:40
Speaker 3: it wasn't a loss. I mean, the Dodgers came back
24:42
Speaker 3: and walked it off by Freddie Freeman. I just feel
24:45
Speaker 3: like Showhy should have made himself available to the media
24:48
Speaker 3: to talk about that milestone, to talk about the game,
24:51
Speaker 3: to talk about, you know, whatever it is, whatever questions
24:53
Speaker 3: they had in terms of being able to get their
24:56
Speaker 3: job done as well. And I know that you've dealt
24:59
Speaker 3: with this too. You are in so many different aspects
25:03
Speaker 3: of journalism, obviously with Fox here unfair territory writing for
25:07
Speaker 3: the Athletic. This is a frustrating thing for a journalist
25:10
Speaker 3: when a big piece of the story is not made available.
25:14
Speaker 1: It's true and often when fans say, well, who cares,
25:17
Speaker 1: We don't care if the players speak to you, my
25:19
Speaker 1: response is, hey, when they don't speak, they kind of
25:22
Speaker 1: put it on their teammates to speak. Now, last night
25:25
Speaker 1: was not necessarily that kind of situation, but it's basically
25:28
Speaker 1: just a responsibility players have.
25:30
Speaker 2: So that's how I would view that one.
25:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean again, he's the face of the game
25:37
Speaker 3: right now the sport. I just wish he would have
25:38
Speaker 3: made that available for those of us that those of
25:42
Speaker 3: you that are still with us, we appreciate it very much.
25:44
Speaker 3: And you were coming to my neck of the woods.
25:46
Speaker 3: I'm insulted, Ken that you didn't ask if you could
25:49
Speaker 3: stay at Chateau Rizzo here in the Boston area. This
25:53
Speaker 3: is going to be an interesting series that the Dodgers
25:56
Speaker 3: and the Red Sox, both teams kind of limping into
25:59
Speaker 3: it right now with their play over the last you know,
26:02
Speaker 3: since the All Star Break. What do you hope to
26:04
Speaker 3: see from these two clubs?
26:07
Speaker 1: From the Red Sox a continuation of what we saw
26:10
Speaker 1: last night in Philadelphia that was perhaps their biggest win
26:13
Speaker 1: of the year. They came back, they had lateening drama,
26:17
Speaker 1: they had a lot of things go right, and they
26:20
Speaker 1: just need to kind of stabilize themselves again. They were
26:25
Speaker 1: playing so well before the break. They've been too enforced
26:27
Speaker 1: since the break, so they just need to kind of
26:31
Speaker 1: build some momentum and they need reinforcement in the next
26:33
Speaker 1: week from their President of Baseball Operations, Craig Breslo.
26:37
Speaker 2: No question about that.
26:38
Speaker 1: The Dodgers, I wonder when they're going to kind of
26:42
Speaker 1: snap to it. And it's still only July twenty fourth,
26:46
Speaker 1: and it's not a situation of urgency.
26:48
Speaker 2: They've got the division.
26:50
Speaker 1: Lead, they're going to make the playoffs, But you wonder
26:53
Speaker 1: when is this all going to click? When are their
26:55
Speaker 1: players going to get healthy, how are they going to reinforce.
26:58
Speaker 2: Their bullpen, what is going on with Mooky?
27:01
Speaker 1: All these different little nagging issues that right now individually
27:06
Speaker 1: are not devastating in any way. But come September, when
27:10
Speaker 1: you want to roll into October, where are they going
27:13
Speaker 1: to be then? And that is the curiosity I've got
27:17
Speaker 1: with the Dodgers. I've had it all season. When will
27:19
Speaker 1: they turn it on?
27:20
Speaker 2: Will they be able to turn it on?
27:22
Speaker 3: Isn't that funny they're still leading the division? Or wondering
27:25
Speaker 3: when the Dodgers are going to be able to turn
27:26
Speaker 3: it on? Let me ask you this though you mentioned
27:28
Speaker 3: Mooki bets and nobody is harder on Mooki than Moki himself.
27:31
Speaker 3: Dave Roberts essentially benched him the other day, said that
27:34
Speaker 3: he was giving him a mental break. Obviously, you wrote
27:37
Speaker 3: about this in your column specifically about the Yankees on
27:39
Speaker 3: how to handle unproductive players. But it was right after
27:43
Speaker 3: the All Star break, so I don't think that Mooky
27:45
Speaker 3: needed that the rest or the mental break, but he's
27:48
Speaker 3: certainly struggling. How do you think Mooki is best served
27:51
Speaker 3: to get out of this and get back to the
27:53
Speaker 3: player that we know he is and that he certainly
27:56
Speaker 3: knows he is.
27:57
Speaker 1: Wow, A lot of that is a great question, And
28:00
Speaker 1: you're right about Mooky.
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Speaker 2: He's extremely hard.
28:02
Speaker 1: On himself to a fault sometimes maybe not just sometimes,
28:06
Speaker 1: maybe a lot of times. And he does not believe
28:10
Speaker 1: this has anything to do with his play at shortstop
28:12
Speaker 1: moving to shortstop full time. He just cannot kind of
28:15
Speaker 1: figure out what is going on now. You can't bench
28:20
Speaker 1: him for an extended period. That would make no sense.
28:22
Speaker 1: The mental relief, I understand that that was obviously Dave
28:26
Speaker 1: Roberts saw something in that first game that he said, Nope,
28:30
Speaker 1: we got to give him a day. So the obvious
28:33
Speaker 1: thing here is to keep playing and keep going.
28:36
Speaker 2: That's what major league players do. That's what Mookey Betts
28:38
Speaker 2: has done his entire career.
28:40
Speaker 1: But you worry that this has gone on for so long.
28:44
Speaker 1: This is not just now the stomach illness that hurt
28:47
Speaker 1: him early on. This is an extended season long slump
28:52
Speaker 1: and he has to play himself out of it. But
28:55
Speaker 1: it's not easy to do.
28:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, no question about that. It'll be interesting to see
28:59
Speaker 3: the series this weekend. Ken, I hope to see you
29:02
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