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Hour Two | NFL QB Rooms & Baker Mayfield's Future · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 1: Off the Bench. We have to Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, here we go where the.
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  Speaker 1: Plays get broken down and science gets denied to.
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  Speaker 2: Come off the bench.
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  Speaker 1: Hour two of Off the Bench Live from the Raising
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  Speaker 1: Kine Studio.
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  Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in ot b Our number two
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  Speaker 3: of course again. Our Monday show is brought to you
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  Speaker 3: byur friends over Buy You Automotive, Jake Flennelandro Luke and
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  Speaker 3: Braxton all here with you. Football see is upon us
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  Speaker 3: always talked about once you get home from media days,
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  Speaker 3: you shut the door, you lock it, you throw away
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  Speaker 3: the key. And well NFL teams actually are doing that
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  Speaker 3: because they're in training camp.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a couple of teams that are already in camp.
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  Speaker 3: I head out Wednesday to go to Chargers camp on
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  Speaker 3: Thursday and Friday. I'm gonna spend a couple of days
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  Speaker 3: out there looking forward to that, and then the old
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  Speaker 3: training camp tour starts the next week.
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  Speaker 4: And there's already been teams though that have been in camp.
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  Speaker 4: One of those, yeah, who drew.
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  Speaker 2: The short straw this year and got the Hall of
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  Speaker 2: Fame game. Oh yeah, I thought.
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  Speaker 3: The Chargers were going to get it. I think it's
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  Speaker 3: Carolina and Arizona.
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  Speaker 2: It's gotta be the two that already started.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's Carolina and Arizona.
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  Speaker 3: But there's more than like more than just those teams,
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  Speaker 3: because there's still some teams that bring the rookies in first,
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  Speaker 3: like I think Seattle did that, like the rookies are
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  Speaker 3: in first. But I think Carolina and Arizona. I think
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  Speaker 3: those are the two teams we're trying to think. I
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  Speaker 3: think Luke Keikley got in from Carolina? Who got it
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  Speaker 3: from Arizona? Because typically it's like two teams that got
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  Speaker 3: a player in the Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 4: Was fits this year? Either way, cal.
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  Speaker 2: Who else from the Cardinals is going to make the
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  Speaker 2: Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 3: That didn't already make it like Kurt Warner like, but
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  Speaker 3: he made it more like I guess the Rams hurt. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it is Carolina and Arizona. So that's who it is,
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  Speaker 3: and that is going to be on the what sixth
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  Speaker 3: I believe. So, I mean we're a couple of like
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  Speaker 3: a week away, I'm having a football game, real life,
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  Speaker 3: actual pads to the whole deal. There's not as many
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  Speaker 3: like quarterback battles in the NFL really that we typically
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  Speaker 3: talk about. I think Cleveland obviously, like top of mind
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  Speaker 3: is like the one. And I don't know if y'all
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  Speaker 3: saw this. Jerry Judy, he was on like an Instagram
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  Speaker 3: live or something. They're asking him, who's who's the quarterback
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  Speaker 3: going to be? Who should it be? He wouldn't say,
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  Speaker 3: but he held up for like, Okay, what you're saying
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  Speaker 3: so and for is DeShawn Watson?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: No, And I mean honestly, like that shouldn't be that
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  Speaker 3: big of a surprise.
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  Speaker 5: No, it's not a surprise at all. Yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 5: he paid him what two hundred fifty million dollars. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: and you got to get something and like that, once
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  Speaker 5: upon a time he was like the next best thing.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, the Saints wanted him bad. He was the
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  Speaker 5: next best thing in the NFL. I mean that's why.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, sure they overpaid him by a country mile
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  Speaker 5: over there, but still he garnered that amount of money
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  Speaker 5: because what he had done on the field in the NFL,
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  Speaker 5: not because of what he did on the field at Colorado. Right,
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  Speaker 5: So Shador had his moments last year, But to think
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  Speaker 5: that he's gonna just walk in and beat out Deshaun
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  Speaker 5: Watson out of the gate because because of what he
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  Speaker 5: did last year or whatever it is. No, I think
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  Speaker 5: there's more of a comfortability with putting the older guy
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  Speaker 5: out there, and he hasn't played really any meaning for
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  Speaker 5: football in a long time. But to think that any
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  Speaker 5: of them are going to be like, really good is
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  Speaker 5: probably probably an overstatement.
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  Speaker 3: So last year, Shadir Sanders completed fifty six percent of
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  Speaker 3: his passes through fourteen hundred yards, seven touchdowns, ten interceptions.
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  Speaker 3: Dylan Gabriel completed fifty nine percent of his passes through
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  Speaker 3: for nine to thirty seven, seven touchdowns, two interceptions.
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  Speaker 4: So those are the young players on their team.
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  Speaker 3: But Deshaun Watson, with the contract, with the experience that
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  Speaker 3: he has, you know, probably should be the quarterback. But
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  Speaker 3: that's the only Like I'm sitting here and I'm thinking,
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  Speaker 3: because Jacoby Brissett reworked his contract, so he's going to
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  Speaker 3: be the starter in Arizona.
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  Speaker 5: Like Minnesota's a technically a quarterback battle, but I think
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  Speaker 5: that's probably kind of an illusion. That's going to be
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  Speaker 5: Kyler Murray unless something happened, unless he just goes out
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  Speaker 5: in place really bad. This isn't one of those things
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  Speaker 5: where if JJ plays a little bit better than him.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe statistically in preseason he'll be the starter. No, it's
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  Speaker 5: going to be like he's got to look bad. JJ's
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  Speaker 5: got to look unbelievable to do that. You bring Kyler
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  Speaker 5: Murray in for a reason, and that's that's the reason
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  Speaker 5: he's going to be the quarterback. But they're going to
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  Speaker 5: create the illusion of a quarterback battle certainly, and I'm
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  Speaker 5: those are the only battles, all.
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  Speaker 3: Right, So you can kind of go down the list
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  Speaker 3: like Vegas, all right, Kirk Cousins, Mendoza, Kirk, I should
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  Speaker 3: be Cousins until Mendoz is ready, so that's not really
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  Speaker 3: a battle.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, why else do you bring Kirk in? Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 5: why you bring him in and pay him.
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  Speaker 4: You kind of look around the.
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  Speaker 3: League, Atlanta, maybe Michael Pennock Junior to a tongue of Bailoa,
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  Speaker 3: Michael Penick's still kind of trying to get healthy, so
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  Speaker 3: probably too gonna, you know, be the guy.
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  Speaker 4: I would assume you.
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  Speaker 5: Think Michael PENNOCKX junior will ever be able to stay healthy,
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  Speaker 5: stay healthy pounder year.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 5: It sucks to his ACL three extremely talented too. I
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  Speaker 5: really liked his game coming out of college.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I bought a bunch of cards of his as a
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  Speaker 5: rookie because I liked his game, like the way he
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  Speaker 5: threw the ball.
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  Speaker 2: I thought he was really controlled. I thought he was
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  Speaker 2: very poised.
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  Speaker 5: I liked in college how he could go through his
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  Speaker 5: progressions and stay on platform in the pocket. Liked how
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  Speaker 5: he could add lib and make plays with his feet
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  Speaker 5: when he needed to.
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  Speaker 2: Man those injuries. Just I've caught up with.
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  Speaker 6: Him, I mean, can stay healthy.
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  Speaker 2: That's the most beat up quarterbackroom.
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  Speaker 3: In twenty eighteen, Michael Pennock Junior tore his right ACL.
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  Speaker 3: In twenty nineteen, he dislocated his shoulder. In twenty twenty,
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  Speaker 3: he tore his right a CL again. In twenty twenty one,
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  Speaker 3: he separated his shoulder again. Now this was his left one.
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  Speaker 3: The first one was his right one. In twenty twenty
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  Speaker 3: two and twenty three, he had no major injury when
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  Speaker 3: he was at Washington. And then now he's torn his
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  Speaker 3: ACL again in the NFL.
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  Speaker 4: So again his right has left.
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  Speaker 5: So he's done his right and so I think he
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  Speaker 5: said in eighteen and twenty he tours right a CL.
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  Speaker 4: I know he's I know he's torn. I think this
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  Speaker 4: one was differently. This was his I think this was
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  Speaker 4: his left left.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he has two on his right, one
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  Speaker 3: on his left, one on each shoulder.
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  Speaker 4: He separated the AC joint.
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  Speaker 6: That's crazy. He's literally just made a paper.
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  Speaker 4: Those are like ones. Man A CL is tough like that's.
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  Speaker 2: It's almost man like.
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  Speaker 4: Bad lucks by telling you stop. I gets to tear
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  Speaker 4: ACL three times, especially the same leg twice. Yeah, Oh
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  Speaker 4: it's bad.
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  Speaker 6: He dislocated each shoulder.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I tore stuff when you, yeah, separate and
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  Speaker 5: his his left and tearing his left.
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  Speaker 2: They cl last year.
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  Speaker 5: Being a left handed thrower, that's like your push off
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  Speaker 5: foot too, so that's a lot of that's a lot
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  Speaker 5: of pressure and torque you do put on the interior
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  Speaker 5: part of your leg. So it's a tougher recovery probably
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  Speaker 5: for that leg than the other. Yeah, it sucks because
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  Speaker 5: he's a talented guy. So but yeah, I would think of.
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  Speaker 7: That impressing he's back and playing, especially after turning it twice,
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  Speaker 7: because the recovery is different, the surgery is different. There's
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  Speaker 7: different grafts you gotta do. Especially has a turn get twice.
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  Speaker 5: You imagine twenty years ago if somebody tore their a
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  Speaker 5: CL once usually it's a career ender. Maybe not twenty,
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  Speaker 5: maybe thirty, but twice for sure, three times.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean thinking about.
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  Speaker 8: It's not over huh hopefully the honest not.
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  Speaker 3: Over thinking about Patrick Mahomes. I mean just towards a
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  Speaker 3: cl l CL in December and he's bad got cleared
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  Speaker 3: for all team activities.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was.
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  Speaker 5: I was watching some of those clips yesterday of him
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  Speaker 5: at practice because of course I was watching us, yea.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, hey, Homes, like, you don't have to
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  Speaker 5: tork so much, like you don't have to twist that
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  Speaker 5: knee so much right now in these drop backs and
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  Speaker 5: stepping up. Just get on her knee, throw it a
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  Speaker 5: little bit but nusto good.
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  Speaker 8: But yeah, justin fields too, huh.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, so they had There was a lot of
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  Speaker 5: clips going around social media yesterday of like uh uh
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  Speaker 5: my homestolen and then Fields and Thensmyer. Yeah, of course
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  Speaker 5: Homes looks like Mahomes. No Smyer look great, fields not
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  Speaker 5: the great, best mechanics, a little shouldery.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah I wouldn't. I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: It's shocked if no Smyer and.
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  Speaker 8: You're trying to deal with into Brox and brother.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe Field is.
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  Speaker 5: It might be one of those situations where it's like
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  Speaker 5: I could see Nus doing really well in trading camp
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  Speaker 5: and impressing, maybe not enough to where he backs up
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  Speaker 5: my what backs up my Homes like on a game day,
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  Speaker 5: but like later on in the season, if Mahomes goes down,
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  Speaker 5: he becomes the starter.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 5: Because like Phel's you always kind of like that quarterback
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  Speaker 5: as a backup, Like it's a weapon of a quarterback.
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  Speaker 5: They can use their legs as a backup, as a
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  Speaker 5: little change up or something. If something goes down, they
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  Speaker 5: can least and.
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  Speaker 3: Too, Like you know, Kansas City likes to have gadget stuff,
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  Speaker 3: two point conversions, they let him draw it up short
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  Speaker 3: yardage situations.
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  Speaker 4: Just feels gonna have some stuff. Yeah, but to your point,
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  Speaker 4: he might not.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Nuts might not be the technical backup, But
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  Speaker 3: if Mahomes went out for six games, you.
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  Speaker 4: Gotta think he would be.
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  Speaker 5: You gotta think Nuts will be at the beginning of
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  Speaker 5: the year, because I would assume Fields would start the
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  Speaker 5: first couple of weeks with Kansas. I mean, if my
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  Speaker 5: home starts Week one, that's gonna be a credible he
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  Speaker 5: will I don't want.
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  Speaker 4: Him to though I know it's probably not smart, but.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't want him to not because I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to do because I want him to be healthy.
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  Speaker 5: I want for us to watch one of the greatest
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  Speaker 5: quarterbacks to ever play the game. I want to see
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  Speaker 5: him play for a long time, and I don't want
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  Speaker 5: him to go out and do something silly because he's
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  Speaker 5: trying to get back for Week one.
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  Speaker 2: It's a long season.
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  Speaker 5: They've won the Super Bowl plenty of times where the
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  Speaker 5: whole team didn't show up for the first seven or
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  Speaker 5: eight weeks.
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  Speaker 3: You know Mahomes though, And they're playing against the Broncos.
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  Speaker 3: I believe it's Monday Night football, first Monday Night football
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  Speaker 3: of the year against the team that won the division
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  Speaker 3: last year in the Broncos. He's gonna want to play,
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  Speaker 3: and I believe that game's in Arrowhead he's playing.
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  Speaker 5: It's interesting that was the scheduling is interesting, the first
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  Speaker 5: Monday Night football game of the year. They do schedule
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  Speaker 5: the Chiefs when ESPN had to have known that there's
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  Speaker 5: a chance Mahomes wouldn't play, like probably a really good
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  Speaker 5: chance that wouldn't play, and they still chose that game.
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  Speaker 5: Do you know who gets first choice every week, like
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  Speaker 5: when they make the schedule, which network gets first choice?
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  Speaker 2: Gosh.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, I'm kind of like as the drafts right to
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  Speaker 3: draft like a snake draft, like yes, fantasy football, Yes,
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  Speaker 3: so it is that. And obviously, like once you start
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  Speaker 3: getting talking about getting flex.
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  Speaker 4: And different things, that kind of plays into it.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, like you get gets the flex game, you
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  Speaker 3: get so many like picks.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, in a draft, and so that's how you get
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  Speaker 4: like the game of the week.
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  Speaker 5: I would assume that ESPN does get a decent amount
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  Speaker 5: like priority on their Monday Night Football picks. Yeah, they
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  Speaker 5: don't get the flex Now you get bad matchups on money,
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  Speaker 5: you get a lot of bad matchups. Yeah, but they
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  Speaker 5: don't know that on the front end. No, And they
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  Speaker 5: also know they have to spread it around a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: They've got the most difficult job. Monday Night Football doesk
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  Speaker 5: because they're going off what we think. Yeah, and so
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  Speaker 5: at the end of the season, you can have two
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  Speaker 5: losing teams. You can have the Jets Giants play each
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  Speaker 5: other and they both got three wins in Week fourteen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then Amazon on Thursday.
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  Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure they try to get every almost everybody, right,
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  Speaker 5: they try to get most teams on Thursday, so their
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  Speaker 5: job probably not quite as difficult. They're trying to pick
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  Speaker 5: the best matchups, of course, but you know, you get
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  Speaker 5: you get some stinkers in there. You get a Browns
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  Speaker 5: Bengals game.
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  Speaker 8: I think that they did last year.
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  Speaker 7: I think last year from when I can remember all
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  Speaker 7: the proms on game didn't really disappoint.
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  Speaker 3: I hit a bunch of really good of how many
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  Speaker 3: good ones they had from a year ago. God, I
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  Speaker 3: can't work and too though, like some of that NFL
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  Speaker 3: stuff as we all know, like I said, Jets and Giants,
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  Speaker 3: that game might stink to us, but they know what
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  Speaker 3: they're doing New York Market and then they're going to
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  Speaker 3: get numbers or Cowboys Giants when they both aren't very good.
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  Speaker 4: They know what they're doing.
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  Speaker 3: So it's not great for you know, people trying to
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  Speaker 3: get exciting teams trying to make the postseason, but it's still.
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  Speaker 4: Going to do big numbers.
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  Speaker 5: So I just can't wait for the noises just on
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  Speaker 5: TV in the house in the background, waking up game
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  Speaker 5: day noises in the morning, like Sunday evening, just like
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  Speaker 5: having like the pregame stuff for the Night Game.
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  Speaker 4: Oh care Bear, Carrie Underwood singing her songs be care Bear.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, never call her that.
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  Speaker 4: No, it's the first time ever.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we're starting the season on a Wednesday night,
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  Speaker 3: though not a Thursday night this year for the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: So we get a Wednesday, a Thursday, a full slate
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  Speaker 3: of Sunday and a Monday. On Wednesday night, it's gonna
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  Speaker 3: be the Patriots at the Seahawks. So rematch of the
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  Speaker 3: Super Bowl on a Wednesday night. September the ninth, Happy Birthday, Jackson.
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  Speaker 4: And then Thursdays.
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  Speaker 2: What's Happy Birthday, Hugson.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, we don't know that. We just hugs September ninth. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: Jackson is easiest.
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  Speaker 3: Nine to nine O nine, yeah, even though nine.
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  Speaker 4: And then you got on Thursday, which on Netflix.
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  Speaker 3: The game's being played in Australia, San Francisco and Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 4: Great match up, awesome Australia.
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  Speaker 2: What's the point really are we doing that?
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  Speaker 4: That's gonna be on Netflix?
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  Speaker 3: Then and you got a full Sunday slate and then
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  Speaker 3: Sunday Night game is a Giants classic.
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  Speaker 4: Those two takes place seventeen times a year. You can't
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  Speaker 4: at least otherwise all on Sunday.
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  Speaker 3: The Eagles in there somewhere, and then again we said
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  Speaker 3: you got Denver in Kansas City on Monday night.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, the whole Australia thing really pisses me off.
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  Speaker 2: Like it's that game.
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  Speaker 4: That game. We don't need to share it with everybody, right,
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  Speaker 4: we don't.
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  Speaker 3: Have no you send of the of the games in
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  Speaker 3: week number one. Let me see, send Miami at Vegas.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, let them go. Let them go.
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  Speaker 4: That's the game that goes to Australia, not the Rams
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  Speaker 4: and forty.
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  Speaker 2: It's the best.
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  Speaker 5: Don't send anybody to Australia for that matter. Might be
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  Speaker 5: the Raiders, like George Kittle was giving an interview this
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  Speaker 5: summer about it, like you cannot preach to us like
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: you were talking out of the other side of your
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  Speaker 5: mouth when you talk about player safety player health, like
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  Speaker 5: we want to keep these players healthy. It's in the
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  Speaker 5: collective party, Groment. That's why you have an NFL PA.
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  Speaker 5: But then you're gonna send somebody halfway across the world
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  Speaker 5: to play a football game, and you're traveling, and it
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  Speaker 5: is not good for players safety to do that, To
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  Speaker 5: do all that traveling to play a game and travel all.
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  Speaker 2: The way back. It's not good for you, not good
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  Speaker 2: for the body.
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  Speaker 3: No, I don't know, not right out of the gates
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  Speaker 3: like that, Like you got to kind of callish your
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  Speaker 3: body a little bit if you want to do that.
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  Speaker 3: Week eight, give them a bye week. I don't love
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  Speaker 3: it then, but I understand it better than week one.
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  Speaker 3: And look, I love trying to grow the game. It's
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  Speaker 3: better for the players and so like the next wave
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  Speaker 3: and you're gonna have international fame and all that kind
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  Speaker 3: of stuff too. But there's a big difference between you know,
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  Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bills flying to London and these teams on
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  Speaker 3: the West Coast flying.
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  Speaker 5: And last time I checked, I hadn't been there, so
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  Speaker 5: I can't say firsthand experience. But I think Australia has televisions.
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  Speaker 6: Their toilets go backwards.
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  Speaker 4: They can just watch the game. You want to grow
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, why did they do that?
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  Speaker 6: Because they're on the other side of the We talked.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, talked a lot about it, how they lost
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  Speaker 4: Oh I remember I got the picture over there. I
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  Speaker 2: Just grow the game with the television.
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  Speaker 4: Or send a preseason game. Yeah, like think about like
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  Speaker 3: Teams in soccer, they're not going to send you know,
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  Speaker 4: A couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 2: I believe they call those friendlies.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, not a big deal, big soccer head here.
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  Speaker 3: All right, that's enough of us talking about NFL and
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  Speaker 3: Australia because it ain't gonna change, but it is dumb.
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  Speaker 3: a little NFL last segment. Of course, the Saints are
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: going to report on Tuesday, July the twenty eighth, and
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  Speaker 3: their first practice is going to be on Wednesday, July
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  Speaker 3: twenty ninth, which is so report days tomorrow.
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  Speaker 4: But you don't do.
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  Speaker 3: Anything obviously, You just hey, what's going on, how y'all doing?
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  Speaker 4: Has your family?
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  Speaker 3: And then and then you you talk about how bad
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: it's gonna suck to be in training yep, and then
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  Speaker 3: you start practicing on Wednesday. Training game is always fun.
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  Speaker 3: It's like you're excited, you're happy to be there, but
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  Speaker 3: you're like, man, I'm not gonna see my family for
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: like a month, and it's gonna be an absolute grind.
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  Speaker 3: So it's like mixed feelings, but you are excited to
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  Speaker 3: be there with your new teammates and you know, hit
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: refresh on what was a disappointing season for the New
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: Orleans Saints. Their first public practice is going to be
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: on July thirtieth, and that's gonna be from at nine
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: am and ten fifteen am. Of course, it's going to
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: be right there at the Oshner Sports Performance Center in Metri.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna be there on August the thirteenth. Look forward
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  Speaker 3: to that. You want to come down hang out.
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  Speaker 2: For training camp.
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  Speaker 4: We don't have to practice.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, we can just walk around.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure that we know a quarterback coach that
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: will let us like kind of like sit there credentials,
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: watch the quarterbacks throw.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Maybe he'll let me into broom watch a little thing.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I thought you did like to throw a ball.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, you don't want to do it to yourself.
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  Speaker 3: Not dominant, Tyler.
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  Speaker 4: You're good, but.
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  Speaker 5: The own competition you me Now? Yeah, thank god, just kidding.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody relaxed.
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  Speaker 3: So it is here for the again for the New
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  Speaker 3: Orleans Saints. That is going to be Tomorrow is going
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: to be the reporting day. And we started talking about
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: the Falcons a little bit earlier, and obviously their question
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: marks at quarterback not the only team in the South
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: that's going to have question marks right now. The Carolina Panthers,
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: they've got their starting nose tackle, they're starting defensive end,
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: they're starting corner, they're starting right tackle, and they're starting
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: a left tackle or on the shelf. So the Carolina
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: Panthers are certainly being hit right now by the injury bug.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: Now in the off season, they did sign Rashid Walker
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: from Green Bay and they drafted Monroe Freeling out of
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: Georgia in the first round, So they have good options
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: to try to step in there and the tackles until
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  Speaker 3: their starters get healthy or if they don't get healthy,
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: they've got, you know, better options than most are going
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: to have. But certainly at nose tackle, Bobby Brown right
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: now being out, that means Lee Hunter, the young player
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: out of Texas Tech's gonna have to step up. And
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: so you're gonna be counting on a couple of rookies
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: there in Carolina, the team that did win the division
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: a year ago. And it's one of the things about
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: the NFC South that nobody really knows who's going to
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: do what, who's going to be who, who's going to
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: step up, who's going to take the next step, you know,
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: for quarterbacks alone, it's intriguing because we talked about the
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Atlanta situation. We all assume that Tyler Shuck's going to
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: take a pretty big step next year. We go to
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: you know Carolina and Bryce you Young, and you know
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: Kenny Pickett's now his backup. Haines King's there as well.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: But what you know is Bryce Young is there a ceiling?
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Has he met his ceiling? Is this what he's going
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: to be? And then you got Baker Mayfield, who's he's
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: wanting a new contract. He deserves a new contract, man,
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: and he like he said, if we get to training
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: camp and I don't have one, we're not talking about
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: it again. So he's going to be motivated last year,
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: I think. So he's going to be motivated to play
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: for something. You know how when he's motivated, I think
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: that's his best version. Maybe that's their negotiation strategy, just
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: piss him off. But what if what if he goes
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: out there and balls outs, like sorry, guys, then you
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: pay him.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: We're going somewhere else.
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: I mean, he's probably going to be asking for top
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: dollar anyway, whether he balls out this year or not.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Let's see.
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he's a free agent. Vita Vea's one.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: That's another one that they are trying to work with
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: right now.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah. They also said if we get to camp, so
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  Speaker 3: they don't have one, but they're like reporting. So it's
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• 24:39
  Speaker 4: Old, babe.
• 24:40
  Speaker 10: Also Chris Godwin Junior, they could pick up his option
• 24:43
  Speaker 10: or he could be a free agent.
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: So what you're saying is if Bake, if we don't
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: hear any news on Baker Mayfield and like the next
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: couple of days, he's going to be an unrestricted free
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: agent at the end of this year. Is it accurate?
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: If what saying under if we don't hear anything in
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: the next couple of days is what you're saying, he's
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: going to be an unrestricted According to him.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: Yes, this was weeks ago. He's like, I do not
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: what people about during the season. I don't want to
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: be a distraction. I want to focus on you know whatever.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: Whatever.
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: So people said, y'all, y'all diabi.
• 25:18
  Speaker 10: He's also set to become a free agent at the
• 25:21
  Speaker 10: end of the season, and they asked him about it
• 25:22
  Speaker 10: and he's like, I don't care about my contract, just
• 25:24
  Speaker 10: get Bakers.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: Interesting Yeah, Baker seems like one of those guys that's
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: pretty well.
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: Loved by his teammates. Yeah for sure.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: When you got another guy trying to get a contract
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: saying get him done, yeah, yeah. And two like it's
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: a slippery slope.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Like sometimes you know you're you know, a fan of
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  Speaker 3: a team and you're like, oh, well, you know, we
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: don't want to pay him what they're paying that top
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: six quarterback. You gotta be careful what you wish for,
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: because Baker Mayfield right now is a very good option
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: for any team to be a quarterback. Like he's a
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: top fifteen quarterback, Like he's in the conversation. He's a
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: part of the conversation of guys that you feel incredibly
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: safe about and good with and you can move forward with.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: And then like when you don't have it, and then
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you look up and Jacoby Brissett
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: and Carson Becker your options, you know.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: What I mean, Yeah, it could happen, And it happens
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: in a blink.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: Of the New York Jets, who have done a lot
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: of good this offseason. They really have draft defense. You
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: can look up and Geno Smith and k klubn it
• 26:23
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  Speaker 6: Bro.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so you got to think that Baker right now
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: is looking for about fifty to fifty five a year
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: and they should have been and that. Yeah, that's an
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: astonishing amount of money. It is, but that's the going
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: rate for a quarterback and kind of his his tier level.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Uh so.
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: Do we He's put this like self imposed deadline for
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: a training camp, like, hey, like, if we don't have
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: this deal done by then, then I'm just gonna play
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: it out. I'm gonna bet on myself. And I believe
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: that man that he's just gonna bet on himself. He's
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: played his whole career that way. He kind of lives
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: his life that way. He's cocky, but like in a
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: relatable way. He's very confident. That's why he's got everybody
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: in that locker room that loves him. So yeah, but
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: I don't understand why they wouldn't pay him because let's
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: just say he does go ball out. Okay, let's it
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: go from fifty to fifty five million a year to
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: what fifty five to sixty million? Right, it turns into that, Like,
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: so there's not that you know, even if he goes
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: out and balls out, like, there's not. He's been balling
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: out right like, there's not a big jump that he's
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: gonna make.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: Right now, he's making thirty three. Yeah, he's got like
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: a thirty nine million dollar cap, so he's making thirty three.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Sam Darnold's making a little bit more, thirty three point five,
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Daniel Jones is making forty four, Deshaun Watson's making forty six.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: And then you get into Jalen Here's the fifty million
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: plus club, Jalen Hurts, Lamar Jackson, Justin Herbert, Jared Golf,
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Brock Party, Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Jordan Love, Trevor Lawrence,
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  Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford, and you have Dak Prescott and Patrick Mahomes
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: making sixty plus million per year. He deserves, I mean,
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: he's in that. He is the club that we're talking about.
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he is the sixteenth highest paid quarterback in the
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: NFL right now, which you know, where does he fall?
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: I mean he should probably fall around the tennis range, probably,
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: but it's all about timing with these contracts.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: So I mean, he's he's gonna go.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: Daniel Jones shouldn't be making eleven million dollars more than
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: Sam darn on a Baker Mayfield.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Very fair.
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: A Rod's making twenty two and a half m Lebron's
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: only making three.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: He sucks.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: You knew that Lebron signed to another team.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: I did. I saw. I heard it on the radio.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: Oh the way in.
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: I think I heard of the day it happened. It
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: happened right after the show. I think Friday. Yeah, it
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: was like it was like, yeah, it happened. When I
• 29:03
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• 29:08
  Speaker 2: It happened.
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: Wait, where's he going? I can't tell what's real and
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: what's fake?
• 29:11
  Speaker 8: Sixers?
• 29:11
  Speaker 10: Okay, I thought so, because then like that Miami heat
• 29:15
  Speaker 10: thing happened where they were saying that they accidentally started
• 29:18
  Speaker 10: the live stream announcing that Lebron James was going to be.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: I stayed far away from Lebron stuff.
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: I know. I don't really care about Lebron.
• 29:27
  Speaker 7: James and one of his I guess interviews, he was
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: saying like, trust the process, which is a huge hint
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: because one of the Sixers players nicknames is the process.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Oh well, then the whole time that they were tanking,
• 29:39
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• 29:42
  Speaker 4: Eight years ago.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: He did the opposite the fresh Prince opposite.
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: He went from they did not a big deal.
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: You've been thinking about that one.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: I didn't come up with that myself.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: I heard it.
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: He played your eyes, sided your work, kind of kind
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: of decided that it you know, it was sided.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Mhmm.
• 30:09
  Speaker 10: Anyway, I don't think Trevor Lawrence should be making more
• 30:12
  Speaker 10: money than Baker Mayfield.
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: Trevor had the you and Trevor had the one last.
• 30:18
  Speaker 10: Year explanation makes sense, But like, I just don't think
• 30:21
  Speaker 10: he should be pay Baker.
• 30:25
  Speaker 8: I just don't know.
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: Like the Bucks ownership, I don't know what they're like.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Is this real?
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: Is Geno Smith making three point three million this year?
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: That's what this list says.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: He could be. Yeah, three point three million. Well good
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: for him.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: They say it's a shoe fits.
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: Okay, what I do kind of want to talk about
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: what you think the ceiling for Bryce Young is.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: Okay, we can take a break, continue talking a little
• 30:59
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  Speaker 2: Crazy?
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  Speaker 10: I didn't know if it was good like a wall
• 34:14
  Speaker 10: like the military thing, or if it was like something else.
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: Are they going to come out in ten years and
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: be like, now.
• 34:25
  Speaker 6: They have another song, You're.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: Not allowed to be a But I don't know you
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: have another one.
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: They have another one, though.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: I told you. It's kind of leading to our Panther conversation.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: Their GM. Dan Morgan said, I'm probably gonna call him Trevor.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: That's his name.
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: Wait, who said that they loved Mickey Roman. I was like, okay, interesting, I'm.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: Gonna be working doing yeah, Mickey like maybe like scouting
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: some players for him.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: Okay, okay, all right, but uh, the.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: Caroline Panther question was about Bryce Young, not about Trevor Etien.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: As Dan Morgan said, he's calling him that Bryce Young
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: a year ago, I thought.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: It was better.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: He completed sixty four percent of his passes, those for
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: three thousand yards.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: It was a lot of check down, Charlie, but he
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: took care of the football for the most part.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: To you know what, he'd been doing twenty three touchdowns,
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: eleven interceptions, and you asked me the question about his ceiling.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: I kind of think that's that's where it's at. He's
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: he's gonna be between the twenty and twenty five touchdowns,
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: he's gonna be between nine to fourteen interceptions. He's gonna
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: be between twenty eight to thirty two hundred yards. It's
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: gonna kind of be who he is.
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: He's a weird It's strange to watch him play because
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: at the beginning of the year last year, I was
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: watching him play and like he's They drove down the
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: field and he made like three or four and I'm
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: not gonna say like great throws, but operating the offense.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Finally the open guy. They were right.
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: Down on the goal line, and then he just threw
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: it right to a defender the next play. Now, interceptions happened.
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: Like there's plays that quarterbacks make that always look bad.
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: You're like, how did he not see them? Well, it's
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: it's really hard to play that position, So I get it.
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: Sometimes you're gonna make plays. Even the best quarterbacks make
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: plays that make you look down. He just he makes
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: He'll make some really good plays, and then it makes
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: some very elementary plays, like that was a huge brain fart.
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: You're in your fourth year, fifth year, whatever, you can't
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: do that anymore. But then a lot of these games
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: where he goes off and he does he plays really well.
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: You think back about how good he was at the
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: college level and what a you know, dynamic playmaker that
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: he was.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: How has it not improved.
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: More in in Carolina, and you know, you could kind
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: of say the team, the organization, it's just it's not
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: the best.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: I think that he's got a little bit more room
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: to improve. I think his ceiling's a little bit higher
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: than it was, and I think that he's had a
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: lot of improvement in me you kind of I think
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: the touchdown to interceception ratio has kind of been the
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: big situation on his NFL career in the past, and
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: he improved that by a decent amount this past year.
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: So I mean, we'll see how he can if he
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: can keep improving. I don't think it's like top fifteen
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: quarterback in the league ceiling, but I think it's.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: A little bit higher than what it is.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: He's the number one overall pick, so that kind of
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: comes with expectations. And he's also he's a shorter quarterback,
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: and for shorter quarterbacks to succeed, they have to be
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: like elite at like something. Yeah, they gotta be special, right,
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: And like Drew Brees was, he was gonna be incredibly accurate.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield and his mentality and the way he makes plays.
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: Even Russell Wilson, the thing they.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: Used to talk about was his deep ball, right, that
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: was his skill, like the one thing that he had, Like,
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: I just don't know what that is with Bryce.
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: Right, I put him in the same category a little
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: bit as CJ.
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: Stroud.
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: And the fact that there has never been conversation with
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: either one of those guys about a quarterback competition. Yeah,
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: they've always just been like the default guy and everyone
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: in the organizations like, yeah, that's our guy, of course,
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: but everybody else around the country is like yep, yeah,
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: but why but like why are you saying these things
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: like we have eyes, like you can fool us, Like
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: what is you know, what have y'all done behind the scenes?
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: What does he do behind the scenes that gives him that?
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: This is the NFL. Nobody, nobody deserves anything. Nobody is
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: the NFL doesn't owe you anything. But it's two guys
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: that have not lived up to where they were drafted,
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: or in CJ. Stroud's case, not lived up to the
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: hype that he built up his first year in the NFL,
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: which was really good.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: But those two guys, like even before last.
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: Year, it's like, okay, should be some sort of competition
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: for Bryce, but there's not. Yeah, there's nothing they're not
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: even like thinking about drafting a guy to compete with him,
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: or bringing in a veteran to compete and bring in
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins.
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: I'm like, do something right just to push him. Kenny
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: Pickett's the backup this year.
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: And then in Houston, like their situation, they're GM. Yeah,
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: small boy there, Yeah, they're GM and and uh what's
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: his name? And in Houston he's like from the Patriots,
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: He's like, are you crazy? Are y'all do you hear
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: yourselves talking to me right now? You want me to
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: put somebody to compete with CJ? Like, I don't know.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: Those are the two guys, like man Davis Mills is there,
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: but okay, he's had some okay moments when he's played well.
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: They look better with him than they did with CJ.
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: But like they're not bringing anybody to like, for real
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: compete with those two guys, which is a little bit
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: strange to me. But with that being said, I do
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: think Bryce Young Ceialing is a little bit higher than
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: what we've seen, not a lot, a little bit.
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: Haynes Skiing also in Carolina too.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: Remember we talked about that this weekend or week one,
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: I would have something for Haynes King ready to go,
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: certainly with the running back group in Carolina.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: He seemed like a prime pick for the Broncos.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: And by the way, can we can we look, I
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: don't know this. This guy might be a great guy,
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: and that's fine. There's a lot of great guys that
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: aren't good at football. Uh, can we stop trying to
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: force it? You know what he's gonna have?
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's yeah, yeah, for sure, Like that was Matt
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: hoping because he probably had a card or two of.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: His I got, but no, Look, it's Ted mc millan,
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: it's Jalen Cocher.
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: You you drafted a receiver in the third round. You
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: got Jimmy Horn Junior. And John Mechi's there now too.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Like.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: It's year breakout, year breakout player of the year.
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: Ooh, put that on favor I don't love it.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Didn't feel right.
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: They also like, didn't re sign Rico O'Donnell.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: And now Cuba Hubbard's going to be the back his
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: long Chuba Hubbard's longest run last year. Who's going to
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: be the starting running back for the Carolina Panthers. They
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: might want to take a guess, So he's gonna be
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: the guy playing in fifteen games had five hundred and
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: eleven rushing yards three point eight yards per carry. Anybody
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: want to guess Cuba Hubbard's longest run of the year
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: last year, It's got to be wildly short.
• 41:32
  Speaker 8: Twelve yards, okay, eighteen Okay.
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna go less just because I'm reading your face
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: right now. Nine fourteen. So Lone's right price is right.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: Rolls fourteen yards and he had one hundred and thirty
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: four carries.
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: That's wild.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: I could do that, yeah, right now in my current state,
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: forty one years young, I can get you a fifteen
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: years and one hundred and four carry yards one hundred
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: and thirty four carries. I will luck into cutting the
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: backside of his own, making the d N miss and
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: then getting fifteen yards.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: But I gotta be honest with you.
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: This Saturday, when we were at your camp and you
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: put put down that forty yard those cones at forty
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: yards to take everyone's forty yard time. Yeah, I swear.
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: When I first saw the cones, I was like, why
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: they why are they running the sixty right now? Then
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: I started counting the yards. I was like, that's forty yards. Yeah,
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: so far your binoculars out, like, god, that's a long
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: way to run. You did come over and say that
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: some of those kids they had never run that far
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: and a lot they're like got to.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: That, Oh my god, they got and they were like
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: veering off, you know, like forty is a long way.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: J Bones ran a four nine seven jay at six two,
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: two hundred and sixty five pounds.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: Jay Bones, of course that's Jackson, my oldest son.
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: Wait, Ja Bones ran what seven day? He was moving?
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: He was moving, he was He's like he lives in
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: the four nine is always messed with him, Like yeah,
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: he's like he's gonna be between like a four nine
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: seven and a four nine nine no matter when he
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: runs them.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: But he's in the force.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Bones, So get the quarterback.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's playing zero nos and a get the great down,
• 43:16
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• 43:18
  Speaker 2: He's doing this. That's what she's doing like Aaron Donald
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: does it.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: He's got to play zero the plays three ten anywhere,
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: big difference anywhere.
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: You're saying zero nos and three teen the same thing.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: No, you can play anywhere now. So I said, he's
• 43:31
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• 43:32
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• 43:35
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  Speaker 4: All right, welcome back in O t B. Matt Flynn.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: Give me the pecking order of quarterbacks in the NFC South.
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: UH n C South uh Baker Mayfield, Tyler Shuck. It's
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: gonna be a toss up after the next one. No
• 45:28
  Speaker 5: one from Atlanta stand healthy. So I guess an amalgamation
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: Tua and Pinnix would be m hm three than Bryce four.
• 45:40
  Speaker 10: Oh wait, you think two and Pinnicks amalgamation above Bryce?
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: I guess I mean.
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: Kind of a coin flip on that one, a little bit,
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: uh because two has shown a really high ceiling from
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: a yards standpoint, not really high, a higher ceiling than Bryce.
• 45:58
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but.
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: Again, I just don't know why they've never brought anybody
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: to compete with Bryce.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: I mean five, Randy Dalton trade him this year?
• 46:09
  Speaker 10: Who?
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: Who give me like graft somebody, Oh.
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: I mean this is your five? Right for Bryce, this
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: is your four? Okay, right, yeah, your four. We'll fact
• 46:23
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