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Patriots Unfiltered 10/5: Lions Preview, Throwback Reds, Wednesday Practice Update · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: Patriot's Unfiltered. Strange is holding the zone if we can
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  Speaker 1: get Thornton in there. It's a pretty good draft. Class
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  Speaker 1: there yet. You know what they peaked at, like a
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  Speaker 1: thirty six, you know, because it was a good game.
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  Speaker 1: seizure in the middle of that sense I kind of
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  Speaker 1: forgot what I was even talking about in the middle,
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  Speaker 1: and I was just like, oh, I'm back now. I
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  Speaker 1: think Fred is right. You can't just automatically say and
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  Speaker 1: I don't automatically say Paul being more optimistic. Boy, things
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  Speaker 1: you said you had a sneeze bruin like the Bruins?
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  Speaker 1: I got it. Took me a second there, a little
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  Speaker 1: slow on the uptake care of hockey guy. I guess
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  Speaker 1: all right. I want to thank you. I want to
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  Speaker 1: from listening to the open there. I want to thank
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  Speaker 1: you for pointing out that I was the most optimistic one. Yes, sure, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because I so offered get beat up for the other way.
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  Speaker 1: I like it. It's so shocking I had to say something. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm higher on the team than you want. It's Deuce,
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  Speaker 1: it's Alex, it's Paul, it's Fred and Matt in the
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  Speaker 1: right after this one, So you're gonna want to stay
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  Speaker 1: tuned for that. That's gonna be great every Wednesday, two
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  Speaker 1: to three every Wednesday. Yeah. And we told him too.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, three, if you're going a little long,
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  Speaker 1: it's okay, yeah, you know, like it's a it's a
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  Speaker 1: loose three. It's okay. There's no one I would bank
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  Speaker 1: on two hours easily. There's no one up behind you.
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  Speaker 1: So you're gonna pull them out to get to the
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  Speaker 1: locker room, but otherwise that they're just gonna go gl
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  Speaker 1: just gave me a dirty look. Don't ever say that again, Stott. Sorry, bro. Well,
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  Speaker 1: let's let's get into some of the information that Bill
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  Speaker 1: just gave us. And for those of you who are
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  Speaker 1: just turning in, tuning in, Bill just did his press conference,
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  Speaker 1: and um, they're going inside today into the bubble and
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  Speaker 1: Mike resasses at a virtue of you know, having played
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  Speaker 1: an overtime game, maybe you know, dialing things back a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. Um, what do you think get ready? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it is talking about this a lot this afternoon about
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  Speaker 1: yeah it is raining soft. Yeah, but I go inside
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  Speaker 1: afraid of the rain. Now. I mean, I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 1: lie and say I didn't, you know, notice it and
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  Speaker 1: find it interesting at all. But I don't really know why,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't think it's a huge deal. Do you
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  Speaker 1: maybe not to get the red jerseys? All? Are they
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  Speaker 1: wearing red jerseys today? I don't practice I think the helmets,
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  Speaker 1: But that's a good question. How to practice jerseys red?
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, that's an interesting question. I'm not sure. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, but I guess we'll find out when Evan
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  Speaker 1: comes back from practice. That's right. I mean, I get
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  Speaker 1: Mike's point about the overtime. Maybe you're trying to lighten
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  Speaker 1: the load, but I don't know why you have to
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  Speaker 1: go inside to lighten the load, right, do you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying? And I and I get Mike's point,
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  Speaker 1: Like they did play a long game. They played you know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, almost another full ten minutes. But I would think,
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  Speaker 1: I guess if it's if it's just a walk through,
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  Speaker 1: you know, there's no sense in doing that outdoors when
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  Speaker 1: it's bad weather because you're not like battling the elements
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  Speaker 1: and running plays and getting in that, I would think,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll we'll find out shortly because someone just walked
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  Speaker 1: into these I think he's in it. He's he's in
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  Speaker 1: the in between in between. He hasn't even gone out
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  Speaker 1: there yet. I just like, sometimes I think that there's
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  Speaker 1: a time to practice in elements, to like test your
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  Speaker 1: team or to you know, But there's also times I
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  Speaker 1: feel like where it's you know, the weather's going to
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  Speaker 1: be fine here this weekend, and it just feels maybe
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  Speaker 1: counterproductive that you have guys dealing with like whether you
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  Speaker 1: like I don't want to deal with the weather. Let's
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  Speaker 1: just get inside work on what we got to work
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  Speaker 1: on and not have every right it's right what we're doing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's why I like your theory. Yeah, because I do
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  Speaker 1: think that communications sometimes in bad weather it can be
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  Speaker 1: a little bit challenging. And if you're just doing a walkthrough,
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  Speaker 1: if they were having a full blown, full padded practice,
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  Speaker 1: I would say, well, why, I mean it's raining, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like sometimes you have to play in the rain, right,
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  Speaker 1: But I think if you're if it is that, is
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  Speaker 1: that the Is that like a fact, like it's just
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  Speaker 1: a walkthrough. I know that Mike could mention that, but
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  Speaker 1: is that like out there, I don't know. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if it's just going to be a walk through when
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  Speaker 1: it's more informational, I'm with I think Fred has a
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  Speaker 1: great point. I I think it's easier to sort of
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  Speaker 1: get everybody on the same page and talk about things
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  Speaker 1: at a lower tempo. Yeah, when you can sort everybody's
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  Speaker 1: on the same page, and it's easier to do that
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  Speaker 1: outside of the elements. If the elements are bad dangerous Yeah, sorry, yeah, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: my headphones are weird today and I don't know what's
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  Speaker 1: up anybody volume. I was just gonna say, probably focus
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  Speaker 1: more because if it was raining outside, all I would
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  Speaker 1: be thinking about is how much it sucks to be
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  Speaker 1: out there. That's why you'll never be in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: So it's not going to be signed to the practice
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  Speaker 1: squad anytime soon. Besides ten pounds, that's why you'll never
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  Speaker 1: be in the NFL. She just standing in their arms
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  Speaker 1: folded like this is reds in her pocket. One ten please.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I was available to be the emergency
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  Speaker 1: backup if we needed it, were it was you, it
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  Speaker 1: was either Alex or Garret Gilbert. They went with Garret
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  Speaker 1: Gilbert then, so maybe next time, I guess available. I
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  Speaker 1: guess he was more available than me. That stability is availability,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's the saying. That's the same. But it's also
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  Speaker 1: too you might you probably don't want Mac to slip
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  Speaker 1: on the wet, right. You gotta keep that ankle stable
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  Speaker 1: if you're getting him out there again. Okay, well, if
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  Speaker 1: serious question. I know Phil asked him about it, which
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  Speaker 1: I kind of like, like like Philithy, I was like, well,
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  Speaker 1: what's the point of that. Like's not a participant, He's
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  Speaker 1: just kind of standing there like I like it didn't
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  Speaker 1: answer to be funny if Bill said we just wanted
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  Speaker 1: to troll you guys. Yeah, but like if is he
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  Speaker 1: gonna be like you better? Like you probably should be
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  Speaker 1: here today right too, Like if you're gonna come Friday,
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  Speaker 1: Like why would he not come today? Like you should
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  Speaker 1: be out there right right. I'm thinking it has more
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  Speaker 1: to do with Mac. Yeah, I still like I told
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  Speaker 1: you I kind of transition does that week went on
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  Speaker 1: last week? I think Mac is like he wants Tory
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  Speaker 1: to show everybody, you know, I'm later, I'm tough, I
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  Speaker 1: can do this. Yeah. I just think it's unrealistic that
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  Speaker 1: he can physically. Sometimes it doesn't matter how tough you are.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you just can't play if you're not physically
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  Speaker 1: able to play. And I think that's the situation where
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  Speaker 1: we're in right now with him. I think it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be ZAPPI. Yeah. My impression of the high ankle sprain though,
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  Speaker 1: and this probably goes back to Gronk in twenty eleven,
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  Speaker 1: was like it's not like overly painful immediately, but like
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  Speaker 1: you just have no push, you have no kind of
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  Speaker 1: strength out of your lower leg. And I mean maybe
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  Speaker 1: someone who's experienced one could tell clarify that I know
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  Speaker 1: that there's all different kinds and degrees and stuff, but um,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just interested. Like Kenny ways, Gronk's
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  Speaker 1: pretty severe. I don't know if that means pretty severe,
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  Speaker 1: very severe, somewhat severe, somewhat severe, somewhat severe kind of
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I do wonder if this is they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna have to save Mack from himself at some point. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I would also say that, you know, we all saw
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  Speaker 1: a Gronk play in that Super Bowl when he couldn't move,
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  Speaker 1: like it was almost useless to have him out there.
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  Speaker 1: He was just serving as a decoy. You remember, famously,
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  Speaker 1: on those videos that come out after the fact when
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  Speaker 1: they're all you know, sound effects or whatever the NFL
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  Speaker 1: sound the Giants were all saying it, like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: eighty seven's just a decoy. He can't he can't get
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  Speaker 1: out into his routes. But to me, at least he
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  Speaker 1: move around a little bit, and he didn't need to
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  Speaker 1: be quick because you're not avoiding a hit. I worry
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  Speaker 1: that if mac Jones is playing and he can't move
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  Speaker 1: like Grunt couldn't move in the Super Bowl. Now, he's
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  Speaker 1: a sitting duck in the pocket. Yeah, and you're exposing
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  Speaker 1: yourself a little bit more. Really, That's what my concern
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  Speaker 1: would be. If I were Belichick, I would try to
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  Speaker 1: protect him from himself. Yeah, yeah, he needs to be
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  Speaker 1: mobile in the pocket, you know, or else. You know,
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  Speaker 1: if I'm you know, Bill even said it, the Lions
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  Speaker 1: are an aggressive team, I'd send everybody and you know,
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  Speaker 1: knock him out of the game. I mean, when you
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  Speaker 1: have a hard time playing defense the way the Lions are,
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  Speaker 1: I would think that you you sort of take a
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  Speaker 1: step back and say, we got to try to make
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  Speaker 1: some plays because we're not going to come up with stops.
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  Speaker 1: We're not going to come up with three straight plays
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  Speaker 1: to force punts. But maybe we can send a blitz
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  Speaker 1: off the backside and cause a fumble. Ye, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna give up thirty five anyway, we're averaging thirty
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  Speaker 1: thirty five and change allowed. But maybe I can slow
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  Speaker 1: him down. That seems like them, right, that's like what
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  Speaker 1: they do. But wouldn't you do act like that? I
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  Speaker 1: mean there's two ways to go about it. You could
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  Speaker 1: sit there and say, well, we have to dial it
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  Speaker 1: back and get everybody back and make it. Well, that
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  Speaker 1: doesn't really because you're not going to stop anybody doing
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  Speaker 1: that if you if you don't have the personnel. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean when you do the same thing with Zappy
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  Speaker 1: anyway too, Like just go get them I would. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: oh yeah, you test them. Tamara is joining us now, wow,
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  Speaker 1: we got our whole team back. Yeah. She's very red. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: she's wearing red all this week. She's nice. It's been hard.
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  Speaker 1: And that's a shiny red that's like Paul's disco shirt. Yeah. Yeah,
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: every once in a while, Paul brings out his disco
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  Speaker 1: disco shirt. You think do you think this is a
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  Speaker 1: disco shirt? Is looking like Paul has ascot? Wait to
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  Speaker 1: see what I'm wearing on Sunday. It's like an actual
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  Speaker 1: disco shirt. All right? Oh is it like shiny? It
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  Speaker 1: is shiny? Is it the Jordan? Do you have your
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  Speaker 1: your shiny sneakers today? No? Did you see those outs
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  Speaker 1: them like the rhinestone sneakers? Oh yeah, and photos I've
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  Speaker 1: seen it in the thing. Yeah, Tamara. I start talking
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  Speaker 1: about our outfits for the game week like two weeks
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  Speaker 1: in advanced Yes, you have to not not the least
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  Speaker 1: of which is that the three of us female journalism
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  Speaker 1: back like decades. But what are you wearing? Listen? I
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  Speaker 1: think that even the modern male, I mean what you're
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  Speaker 1: wearing is important. I mean my son, you know, he's no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about the my son's twenty seven. These players,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what they wear counts. They're they're putting a
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  Speaker 1: lot of thought into it. You will be turning into
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  Speaker 1: a meme if you're wearing something crazy. That's the thing
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  Speaker 1: they want to be. Yeah. When I was twenty, you know,
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  Speaker 1: twenty five, I thought about what I see I did.
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  Speaker 1: I did not did well. I thought I don't want
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  Speaker 1: it all the wrong ways and picked all the wrong things.
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: Well yeah, looking back at it, like at the time though,
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  Speaker 1: but you didn't wear things that you know, we're like
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: out of fashion. You cared about what you wore well
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: kind of, But sometimes I'm like, oh, what's I give
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  Speaker 1: you too much credit? You're the guy. Know you came
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: from Hollywood. I thought you might have a clo. No
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  Speaker 1: I tried. I mean that was a process out there,
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: but you know, like rawdy T shirt, like I wore
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  Speaker 1: things that I was hoping would come back into fashion. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I was nothing seems to fit you when you're in
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  Speaker 1: your twenties. I feel like maybe kids are better now,
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  Speaker 1: But I just look back and I'm like everything's way
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  Speaker 1: too baggy and not like there's nothing that was good
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  Speaker 1: for me, you know, for obvious reasons. I didn't want
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: to learn anything too touch were I was skinny the
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: yeah yeah back in the day. Yeah, but I was
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: going to contrast like them talking about which I imagine
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: is a similar thing for you and me when you're
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: getting ready to go in for the pregame show and
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: I'm like that polo, that polo or that or that
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: quarters zip, Like that's just for the TV show. I always,
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: you know, it's whatever Patriots share is like the first
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: one on the hang even fair, but the Sunday shows,
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: I just like, you gotta yeah, I don't. I don't.
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  Speaker 1: But every now and then you get a new quarter zip,
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: you little pop in your step. You're excited to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: wear your new quarter like that's how but it's nothing exciting.
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  Speaker 1: This week just felt really special because I feel like
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: I had to wear red every day, had to, okay,
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: and this is the week where the Patriots are going
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: to be wearing their throwback jerseys, Um, you know, with
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a change in some of the striping,
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: but I think it looks really nice. What I really changes, Well,
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: I think that on the shoulder it's a little bit
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: different than what you remember in the seventies. Oh it's
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: definitely not the seventies. Yeah, yeah, they never wear those, right, Um,
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: I think it's not a conspiracy to get me. But
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: but I love the one. I'd love to see these
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: jerseys with the white helmet but the current logo on it.
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: I think that would be sharp. I think it should
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: all be on the table and creative mix. If you
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: did that, I feel like you just have to bring
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: it back forever exactly that that's your universe, kind of
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: meld it all together, past present, yeah, future. I like it. Yeah. Anyways,
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: and they'll be wearing the white pants too this week,
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah. I think white pants, white helmet, Yeah,
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: red face masks, red jerseys. Can't lose. Can't lose with
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: that outfit, right, That's what I said about the Bengali,
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: about the Bengals and they want Yeah, like you, you
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  Speaker 1: just can't lose when you're wearing things like that. You
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: can't look good, play good. Yeah, look good, pod good.
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  Speaker 1: Not for us my childhood. I'm like, you know, we
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: also knows everywhere and sitting in the stands watching the game.
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: But every guys were you guys were sponsored before anybody?
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: Right did sponsored? Yeah? Didn't you have sponsored teams? No?
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  Speaker 1: When I played? Yeah? No sponsored uniforms, Yeah you didn't
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: have that, they didn't. You can get them paid for then?
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: No back. I mean I think with salth FISA right
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: sales piece, Like the uniforms have been in the school
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: for the last like eight ten years. Oh yeah, I
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: mean you just don't even I mean equipment, the helmets,
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: I mean it was all super old and now it's
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: like everybody's got under armor and the name plates on
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: the back. I graduated high school and my high school
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: signed with Nike, like right after I was like, are
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: you kidding me? What colors are your high school? And white? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: That's pretty good. My problem is at holy Cross is
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: like what am I doing all this purple stuff? Like
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: you get out and I'm like, oh, I got a
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: like seven full purple wind suits, Like where am I
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: ever going to wear those? That? My school colors were teal,
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  Speaker 1: purple and white. Oh? Nothing, You're never, never wearing it
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  Speaker 1: again or nothing, like I carried my stuff to college
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  Speaker 1: with me. Just cover them around. Well, that's like myron
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  Speaker 1: will work right, like Red and Black. Well, I'll grace
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  Speaker 1: all of you by wearing my purple singlet one of
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: these days. Single and he's you got you got to
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: wear that one of these days. He's lurking in the
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: background out he's blocking all light with his head. Yeah
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: all right, So how are we feeling going into this game?
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: I still feel pretty good. I know you will make
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: it fun of me yesterday, but I'm okay with that.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: I still feel pretty good about being able to score
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: at some points against this terrible defense, no matter who
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: the quarterback is. I feel obviously less excited about Zappy
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: if he has to play, But I mean, in this
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: would it is you you deal with. They'll have the
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: whole week to prepare, and yeah, I think they should
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: be able to put some points on the board. I
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: figured about, like our running game right now, going into
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: a defense that is not great against the run. I
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: think it's got to be those guys, you know. But
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: I just feel a weird sense of just uncertainty and
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: not not right. Not that I don't believe that the
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: Patriots can win this game. But I just there's so
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: many interesting little aspects of this game, of the Lions
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: kind of being one of those trashy franchises, you know.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, Maddy p has got to want to win
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: this game more than anything in his life. I'm sure
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: he's probably hasn't left the building yet, you don't know.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: With the rookie quarterback, and in some ways, it feels
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: like a Madden game where you're like, I'm gonna like
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: up the difficulty, but I'm gonna play with my third
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: string court. Like it just feels like so many weird
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: factors in this game that I don't really know what
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: to expect, and I think it's going to be crazy.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: But it's like Alex you said, you know, like the
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: way the Patriots have run the ball, and we've made
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of the fact that Detroit
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: averages six yards to carry running the ball. Won't they
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: allow five point six? Like you can run it and
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: that can keep the score down too, you know what
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: I mean. Like if you think a Dan Campbell team
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: is so bad at defense because he's not a good
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: go no, no, no, but but you would think that
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: if there's anything that would be good on a team
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: he coaches, it would be defense, because you know, I
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: just think he hasn't had the mind to I think
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: it's hard to be good on defense. I think the opposite.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: I also think they got like that. Somebody asked the
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: question of Bill, which was something that popped up in
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: my mind when I watched Hard Knocks, was that they
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: have a lot of former players as coaches. So you
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: had like Deuce Staley, You've got Aaron Glenn as the
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, and you know, he hasn't had a lot
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: of experience. I mean, I think he's kind of ampty aggressiveness.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: But I think they're getting burned on it a lot.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: And you know, I think he's trying to be, you know,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: playing that Dan Campbell style of being crazy and aggressive
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: and just going for it. But I think that they
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: haven't really found If you listen to Bill, like he
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: went on and on about all the things about the
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Detroit the one thing he didn't say is well coached.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: He left that out. That's true. You know, he did
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: not say well coach. He said they're aggressive in this
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: and we're good running and better to be care explosive
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: and all that. But he didn't he didn't use those
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: words and start Barton. You know, I don't want to
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: get him up. You know, I don't think it was
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: by accident, you know, well, I mean there, it's like
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: it seems like the defense is like anything the offense
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: can do, we can do worse on this side of
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: the ball, Like every like every stat you're like, but
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: they're aftering thirty five points a game, Well they're giving
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: up thirty five point whatever, you know, like like everything,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: the defense just makes it like one forty one to
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: one forty they've allowed. I think it's astounding. I'm right, right,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: I think it's astounding how similar their numbers are on
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. And it's so you know
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: what it sounds record big twelve football. Yeah right, yeah,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: that's what you're right. That's why Oklahoma State and you
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: know West Virginia, Oklahoma, like they put up so many points,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: but the defense also allows so many points. Right, that's
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: what they did, big twelve foot. It is true. It's
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: what it is. Penalties, big plays. And I saw Bob
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: so was tweeting about a bunch of the stuff, like
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: going back looking at the game and how many penalties
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: they had and they still went forty eight forty five
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: and the teams were like getting all kinds of penalties
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: to stop their drives and just overcoming them. Yeah, that
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: was just so hard with them. Or it's just they're
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: so fast and loose they don't care. And that's why,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: like I don't know what to expect, Like even if
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: the Patriots start pretty good, like when you look at us,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: expect them to keep coming back for more no matter
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: how the game's going. When you look at the Lions offense,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: they should be good. They've got good I think they
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: have good personnel and they've got good players the line.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's I would start with the line with
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: you know, three first round picks at you know, at
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: center and the two tackle spots. I think those guys
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: are pretty good. I think they opened up polls and
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: they are able to give Goths some protection. And you know,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: he saw it, as we said yesterday, even with you know,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: two of their best players out, he was still able
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: to you know, work with Hawkinson and you know that
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: ums Josh Reynolds, General Josh Reynolds and you know, but
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: you're talking about what our old friend for your DJ Chark,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: which I always feel like was like a guy that
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: the Patriots like Ja Truck but you know, like Goffs,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: we're going to be an elite quarterback. But he's a
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: very capable quarterback. I put him in like that Kirk Cousins.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: You know, you know, you know, he's a guy who
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: can put numbers up just enough to be, you know,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: somewhat dangerous on a giving game, but not good enough
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: to what are you gonna get? I would say, out
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: of the first four quarterbacks they've faced, this is the
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: one I'm less scared about. He's good, like you shouldn't
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: like underestimate him, but he's still not like Mr Jackson
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: or Tuah or Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, except for that one.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: I mean that, you know, and I think Bill you know,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: knows him. You know, he's like prepared the hell for
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Jared goff because you know we faced him in a
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Uh so, like they know what he can
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: and can't do. Yeah, Well that's just what I wonder.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: I mean that was um you know the offensive coordinator,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: um Ben Johnson was a was a Gays guy. Um,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: so I know Bill did mention a little bit of that.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: You know, outside zone stuff for the Shanahan, but I
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: wonder how similar it is and you know if the
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: same kind of defensive game plan thought is going to
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: work now if it, you know, if it would obviously
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: worked well against the Rams. I just don't know how
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: similar to Two things that I would worry about along
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Mike's lines are a Bill knew how to stop him
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: then that was a long time ago, yea, So maybe
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: he's improved, Maybe he's developed some things that he struggled at.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: He's no longer struggling at. That's one. And the second
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: thing is they had no running game that day with
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: no Todd Gurley, and they're obviously running the ball extremely
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: well now Patriots have struggled stopping the run. True, So
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: I just wonder if you know twenty eighteen to you know,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: to twenty twenty two, that could be a different Jerry Goff. Again,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think he's a star, but
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: I do think when you look at their offensive personnel,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: it's not stunning that they've gotten off to a good
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: start offensive. Who would you rather have back in one
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: hundred percent this game, Lawrence Guy or Brian Hoyer? Yeah,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I think that when you look at I think that
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: when you look at I could do anything I wanted
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: offensively if I had faith in my quarterback. Yeah, I
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: think that. You know, the way that the team was
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: able to make Aaron Rodgers have one of the worst
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: halfs that he's ever had with Bill Belichick taking away
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: what they do best in that being their quarterback. I
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: look at this week being in the run game, and
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: so having Lawrence Guy back could be really beneficial for
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: not allowing them to have five point six yards per carry. Yeah,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: and forcing Golf to throw the ball more So, I
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: don't know. I would love to have him back. I
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: hope he is back. Yeah, it's tough. I hear what
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Paul saying, though, because if you have Hoyer, he's again
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: he's not He's not a great quarterback, but you can
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: open up your playbook, you can do anything. There's nothing
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: that he doesn't know how to do. It's probably the
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: right answer. I just think that I'm with everybody, these
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Patriot fans who you know, just have that like zappy positivity,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Like I'm talking about excitement level a rational if I
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: thy five points, what do I have a better chance
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: of doing that with Hoyer or zappy. There's not really
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: not a conversation to be had there unless they get
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: the pick six again, you know, and do that kind
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: of stuff. Yeah, I did. I did see. I caught
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: m It looked like guy traveled with a team this week,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: so he was there. So I thought that was to
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: me that I know, I'm not like pulling this. I
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: saw that a couple of places. He had a shoulder injury, right,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Mac Jones had an ankle injury. Like, I think there's
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: a difference between being on a plane with a with
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: a bad ankle and in a shoulder having to move around,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: like the swelling and all that stuff. It's not the
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: same kind of thing for his shoulder. I don't I
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: didn't look at that as he's closer. He didn't practice
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: on the bench the whole game. He didn't practice at
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: all last week, correct, right, I'm not misremembering that, right.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: He was DNP all three days, That's right. Yeah. I
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: think he'll you know, I think he has a chance
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: to be back out at practice this week. I'm not
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: penciling him in to be back because he traveled last week. Yeah,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: I was just happy he hadn't really heard anything about
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: what was going on with him. I mean, you know,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: we saw a report this morning about John Nu that
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: it's a low ankle sprain, you know, but we didn't
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: get anything in that on guys, So I just I
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: just took it as I didn't know if his season
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: was over. Yeah, we got a good tweet about that.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Did you see that? What's that? Someone tweeted us right
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: after the report came out about Jono Smith low ankle
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: sprain week to week high ankle sprain for Mac Jones
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: day by day. So let me ask you another would
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: you rather? Would you rather outscore the Lions, like and
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: scoring the forties or be the first team to like
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: hold them under twenty forties? You'd rather you could put
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: up forty points? Would I mean that would change that,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: That would change your view of the off Now. I
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: think the offense is coming coming around, but I don't
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: think I don't think that that's the more likely of
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: the two. Though. I think the more likely of the
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: two is that they hold this offense around twenty points
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: and they were able to get twenty seven twenty eight
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: and win. We think that's more likely. I think that's
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: more likely than than the offense with Bailey z Appy
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: scores four, isn't there defense allegedly that bad? They could
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: they could do? Could you both now now you're getting
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, could you now it's Super Bowl or bus baby?
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Yesterday you didn't think they were going to win the game,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: and now we're talking about winning forty something under twenty
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: they're gonna win yesterday. That you're not pencil You're not confident.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not penciling it. You're not confident. No, right,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: that's all I didn't you know, because a lot of
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: people when they looked at the schedules, they penciled in
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: the Bears, they penciled in Detroit, the Browns. You can't
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: do that with this team anymore. You can't do it
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: just the Bears. That's the only the Bears. That what
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: I'm doing. I don't think forties, Okay, maybe like thirties, twenties, okay,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: expectations half I'll meet you halfway. I mean, what if
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: they just scored I don't know, twenty nine? Is that
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: really okay? Listen, I'll take I'll take all the offensive production,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: I'll take zone. I'm really lowered my bar. Just get
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: down to the red zone. Just have a threat to
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: score friend, it's all I ask. One thing I will
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: point out about this is there their kicker situation is
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: that if they're forced to field goals, like they might
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: not even make those depending on if they're It almost
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: like scares me more because now they're just we're just
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: gonna go for it. We're going for it. We're not
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: trying to kick. Yeah, you can't rely on their kicker.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Like I just think this Patriots team regardless like he
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: got hurt. There was a guy who got hurt last week,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: but he did make his field goals. Yeah, he just missed.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: He missed two extra points. It's just narrow kind of
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: road to victory with this Patriots team over the last
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: couple of years that you know it needs no turnovers,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: you know, And it's like this Lions team just throws
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: it all on its head like they're just you know,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: like one turnover could change everything. It's convention. It's like
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: it's with the conventional wisdom's gone with this team. It
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. Like they just score and give
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: up scores every time. That's literally big twelve every time.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: And I think when you're in those kinds of games
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: they can win, Like all it takes is like a
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: fluke turnover, yea and right, and that changes it. Who
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: if they played Baltimore and Baltimore's had this. They played Aladelphia, Washington, Minnesota,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: in Seattle. Okay, the Ravens just can't hold onto a lead.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Now they played they played a good team in Philly,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: a decent team in Minnesota, and two bad teams in
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Washington in Seattle. Yeah, so they their offense probably hasn't
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: been tested yet. Is that fair to say by a
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: good I would say the best defense that they faced
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: was the Eagles, and they got thirty five on them. Yeah,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: eighty six yards offense, I mean balanced, I mean one
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: eighty one rushing. So now I also would say they
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: and I made this comment yesterday, I think they've spent
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: a lot of time down two scores in the second
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: halves of games, and I think sometimes you could just
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: go free and easy. We're just gonna throw it on
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: four downs. To Mike's point, you're gonna use all four
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: downs because we're trailing. What do we have to lose,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: and we're gonna throw it around and spread it out,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: and the other team's probably going to be in a
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: little bit of a pre event because we got a
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: two score lead, right, And I think that some of
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: this production has to be a result of that, well
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: some of it. I'm not saying all of it, because
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: they've had they've had close games. They've all been close games. Yeah.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Do we have like scores by quarter? Yeah, well I
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: know that Philadelphia. I told you this yesterday. Philadelphia and
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Seattle had two score leads in the fourth quarter. Yeah. No,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about there, like how many points um they've
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: scored per quarter thirty two, thirty three, thirty two forty three,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: So so they scored it's not much more in the fourth. Yeah,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: they just go. Yeah, they just they generally get off
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: to fast starts. Thirty two to fourteen in the first quarter.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: I think that's skewed by the Washington game because Washington
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: was terrible. Yeah, they were behind early in Seattle too. Listen,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: no one really knows what's going to happen this Sunday.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: It's it's which makes it exciting, I think, right, it does.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, this brand of football regardless, I mean,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: I think you'd be expecting to see fireworks even if
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: it was like a Tom you know, obviously, you know
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Tom Brady. These guys, but we've got them. But because
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: we're yeah, we've got to win. You have to win.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: So Fred, you asked for quarterbreakdowns. Yeah, Paul just gave
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: it to us for all of them. Yeah. Thirty two three,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: thirty two, forty three. That's their school is by quarter. Yeah.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Do they score a lot of points, yeah, consistent. It's
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: even doubt like if they had all their points in
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, they'd be like, okay, other teams are
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: you know, it's all but it's not there. They've evened
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: out there. No, it's well, they had twenty two points
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter last week. Yeah, that was They
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: were down early and just kind of kept hanging around.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna be. It's gonna unfortunately for me
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: trying to write during the thing, it's gonna But see,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: I have a lot of confidence in the Patriots in
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: that scenario. They don't get caught from behind a lot.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: So if they have the lead and Detroit's chasing all day,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: I'll feel like you normally feel. Yeah, it was a
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: close game, but at the page, I knew the Patriots
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: gonna win. Yeah, I don't if Fred gives you that look,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: and I was comfortable yeah, I'll agree with that. Just
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: like the Pittsburgh game. Yeah, they never had a lead. Really,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: it was always close. But I felt like, the Patriots
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: don't lose this kind of game, right, they have the lead,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: the other team's chasing the whole second half. Patriots the
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: sweet spot. They're not gonna I'm not going to chat them. Well,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: that's the way the Baltimore game was trending. But they
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: they were losing that game, but it was it was trending.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: It was things were happening in the Patriots favor and
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: then it just fell apart. Yeah. See, I never felt
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: good about I mean, they took the lead and then
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Baltimore took it right back. Yeah, and then from that
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: point on when they made it twenty one twenty, it
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: was all Baltimore. Yeah, the rest of the game. So, Fred,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: I have I have would you rather for you? Would
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: you rather Jalen Mills. We're getting Racy came back, or
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: have Jack Jones back out there again on Sunday Jack
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Jones and put you know, Jalen Mills can be out
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: there too, but I want Jack Jones playing. No, But
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: that wasn't I like Paul, He's like he just want
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: to be to Marylyn, Jalen Jones, I wanted again out there.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Say it again, Tomaron, he didn't understand it the first time.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: So Jalen Jones, Yeah, being out there, Jalan Mills, Jale Mills,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, sorry, Jalen Mills being out there, or Jack Jones.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: I can't have both. I can't have both. I want
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: you didn't have both last week. I want Jack Jalen
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: take against the run, against the running team like this.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: This is where I feel like now the answer is
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: what you said, but that wasn't an option. But if
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: I can only have one of those two guys active,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: I'd rather have it be Jalen Mills. But I want
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: to see more Jack Jones with Mills and maybe Jonathan
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Jones inside. Yeah, but yeah, I think Jack to me
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: like he I think he's great at attempting to force turnovers,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: but he's just like focusing too much on that and
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: not tackling, which could be a problem in this game
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: when you have a team that can run the ball
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: the way they can. Yeah, yeah, but they can also
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: pass it. So I want a guy out there who
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: can make a play. So I don't know, you know,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: I'll have one guy you know, I can I can
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: live with one guy who's not the greatest tackler but
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: is more apt to make a play. You know, do
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: you think of Treyvon Digs. He's pretty good. Okay, you're consistent.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Then most people think he sucks. Okay, he makes a
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: play every game, gives up ten. Yeah, Jack doesn't do
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: that yet. Well on Sunday he kind of did, only
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: only gets the run. Yeah, okay, wait, I've got another one.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know you'd watch over time. I've got another one,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: but this one is a little bit easier. Isaiah Win
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: starting or Marcus Cannon starting. I would put Win back
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: out there, but because I've got Cannon, you know, ready
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: to go, and Casey starts, you know, committing penalties again
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: or yeah, it's a tough one. What do you think
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: I mean? I mean, I just I like Marcus Cannon.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: I would I would make the move. I would make
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: the move. I think that they're going to probably try
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: to get high. But so then, when you have a
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: tackle eligible, do you bring Win in for that? Yeah,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: you know, I'd rather have it the other way, and
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: you run the risk of losing Isaiah Win. I mean,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: do we have him, we have we know what I'm saying.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: I can't rely on Marcus Cannon playing right tackle the
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: rest of the way. I can't rely on that. I
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: don't know if I can rely on Isaiah Win though
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: I know I know that even that best. But you're
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: talking about injury. But I think if you take Win out,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: you you mail have lost both of them. If Marcus
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Cannon gets hurt, that'scerne. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, and I know in a perfect world like
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: well you got a fight and work your way back
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: and get your spot back. It doesn't work like that sometimes,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: especially in your last year of your contract. But yeah,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: I think that Cannon um Cannon deserves a longer look.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: If it's this week, I don't know, but they have
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: to do something about that spot. Yeah, yep, yeah, all right.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Five past five hundred's the ace ticket hutline web radio
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: at Patriots dot com is the email address. Let's get
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: to the phone see what people will have to say.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Start with Todd North Carolina. What's up, Todd? I was
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: really happy watching that game. I sent a quick email
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: to the postgame saying that you know, this was good
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: to see their determination and their grit to overcome what
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: was obviously a pretty big setback pretty early in the game,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: and they never quit, and I think I really appreciate that,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: just to see that, and I think that I'm gonna
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: come out right and say it. I think we're gonna
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: beat the b lines. I think we're I think we're
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: due for maybe a little wind streak here because I
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: like what's going on. So that's just my take. And yeah,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: I love the after show and that was great with
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: those guys, and it's great they see that. Evans getting
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: his own show coming up next though. I'll be listening
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: to that too. Take care of guys, all right, thanks. Yeah,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: I think I think in terms of the locker room,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: I think, you know, even though a loss is a loss,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: I think they might feel better about themselves this week
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: than they did the week before. Yeah, it could be.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: I don't think they'll say they celebrated a moral victory,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: but I think they did. Yeah. The vibes seem good. Yeah,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: I mean they banned it together a third string quarterback,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: you know, lambeau Field. I think I think, you know,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: they quietly feel good about the effort, and I think
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: there's a positive vibe going into this game. I agree. Like,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: when I was working on press pass, texted Neil and
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: I was like, this might be the most positive press
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: pass after a loss. I just felt like listening to Slater,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: you know, listening to you know, honestly every single person,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: not just Later being a captain and being a veteran
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: that he is. I think everyone was just kind of
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: like impressed with it, even though they wouldn't say that's
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: that's the that's the tone I got from it. Yeah,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: I would agree. Dan in Virginia and Michigan, what's up Hello?
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: And all Hello. This first thing might get me a
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: cool story handled. But the Patriots playing the lines in
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: their throwbacks has me thinking back to a Thanksgiving game.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: I think it was twenty eleven, twenty twelve. It was
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: on the day of Thanksgiving. We were traveling down to
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: visit my anilaws down in Pittsburgh, so, you know, the
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: big Patriot haters, and we get there about halftime and
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you recall the game, but the
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Patriots were down by about twenty points at halftime and
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: my teenage nephew comes up to me. But you know,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: I didn't think even said low. He just comes up
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: all cocky and he's like, hey, uncle Dan, the Patriots
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: are down twenty four points or whatever it was. And
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: fortunately I had faith in the team and I ended
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: up laughing at the end of the day because obviously
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: they came back and one big time in that game.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: But with regards to this upcoming game, thanks man. In
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: regards to the upcoming game, you touched on a little
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: bit with Jared Goff. Do you think we can really
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: expect this game to go like the Super Bowl or
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: was that largely a product of mcveigh's play calling and
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: the fact that Gough was kind of depended on him
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: up until right before the play. And the other question
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: I have is are we going to see a big
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: boost and performance on both sides because the offense can
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: score hopefully given the lines defense, and that takes a
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: bit of pressure off the off the Patriots defense. Even
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: though the lines can score, they you know that, you
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: know there is an as a much presure on them
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: to hold up the entire team because that's the offense
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: team get going a little bit well, if you recalling
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: that's like Paul said, they didn't have a running game
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: and yeah, so they were. They were depleted offensively, a
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: little bit, and I think, yeah, and I think he
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: was a lot less experienced at the time. Now listen,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: he could go out and do the same thing. I
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: don't think Jared Goff is a great quarterback. I loved
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: your Kirk Cousins um comp Freddy. I think those are
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: guys that are capable on any given Sunday of looking
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: really good and really bad. Yep. That's why they're sort
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: of middling quarterbacks. They're inconsistent. Now he's played well this year.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Eleven touchdowns, three picks. That's a lot of turnovers. That's
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: pretty good. Yeah, that's pretty good. Yeah, all right, thanks
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: dan Um. Let's go to Alex and fall River. What's
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: up A seventeen ten? Um? I've done a random question
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: about the league in general. So I was thinking about
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: young storre star quarterbacks on how they never really seemed
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: US fifteen the rookie contract, and I was wondering why
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: that is When I know the NBA to have financial
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: incentive to study with the original team. How come in
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: the NFL never happened? And I'll take your okay, NBA
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: has what is the what is the question exactly? I
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: didn't know if you've said a specific position. But why quarterbacks? Quarterbacks?
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Why don't they stay? Quarterbacks don't stay for good? They do,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: I mean Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen. Yeah, what they do
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: is they extend them before that first contract. Us Wilson.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of young quarterbacks. Dak Prescott
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: just signed a new contract and you know what to
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: no last year, right, Yes, I mean if you don't
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: resign your quarterback to a second contract, it means you
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: weren't convinced on it, right, all right, I mean even
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield got the fifth year option picked up, right,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: So they had to treat them. Daniel Jones like, if
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: they don't resign them, that means they want them. Yeah.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: It's a lot different than the NBA two where the
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: NBA is not really set up for parody in the
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: league like the NFL is um and also the teams
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: that draft first, like like take Zion in New Orleans,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: like or these small like the Sacramento Kings, Like, no
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: one's gonna stay there, so you have to incentivize them
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: to stay there and not just sign with like the
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Lakers or Miami. You know that's a good is how
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: do they incentivize staying with your team, you can get
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: staying with your team, you can work, you can earn more. Right, Yeah,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: I think there's the existing team is able to offer
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: more money in the NBA in like the Supermax Extent
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: chain or some I forget how it all breaks down.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: It's been a while since I went to front office.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: That's interesting. Yeah, like you said, Alex, the NFL is
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: set up to try to be, you know, for parody, which,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: by the way, new record fifteen teams two and two
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: through four weeks. This year has been great. It has
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: been really fun to like watch football. I think I say,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: I was going to say, she sarcastic. I think it's
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: been kind of fun. There's I mean, after years and
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: years of it kind of just being us at the top.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: I way, I'm looking for the silver line it is.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, it is weird. I feel you don't really
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: know what the power structure is anymore. I mean, it's
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: changed a lot, but it's certainly still some good teams,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: but overall it's it's you don't have like the usual,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: all right, it's always you know, they went down to
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: one undefeated team after three weeks and one winless team
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: after four weeks like that's that's amazing to me. Everybody's
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: just sort of black. Yeah. Yeah. At first I was like, oh,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: Bills are like a step ahead of everyone else. And
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: now I'm like, I also, I wish I was like
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: h but but I think it's because they have so
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: many people out right now to get all the people back. Yeah,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: they are, and like like fill it Alphia, Kansas City, Buffalo, like, yeah,
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: they probably are a notch above everybody else. But usually
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: at this time of year, you're like looking at a
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: bunch of different teams like that, and there's some other
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: teams that you think of in that way that really
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: haven't shown it yet, you know, for the year, you know,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: one don't know, eight years in a row. The Chargers
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: are being that category and they're decimated by injuries too, like,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: so that's the other part of it. I think there's
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: been a lot of impactful injuries around the league, and
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: now that always stinks. Everybody. Everybody gets upset about that,
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: except for Fred. He likes to see guys get hurt
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: as long as they're not Patriots. Correct right, her statement,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: but not entirely inaccurate. Ben and Long Island Rights in
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: at web Radio at pages dot com. Would you guys
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: rather see the team have a full blown breakdown this
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: year and get a high draft position or battle of ballot,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: battle it out it out and fall somewhere in the middle.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: So they're gonna fall in the middle, Yeah, like they're
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: gonna go seven and ten or or I'd rather bottom
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: out than go seven and ten. Yeah, yeah, I mean
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: or eight and nine. Depends though, but you can battle
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: it out and go ten, ten and seven and make
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: the playoffs. I'll take that contend. My problem with like
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: just giving up and just hoping you get a first
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: round pick. My problem was that is but that is
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: he's going to trade the pick. So then I'm like,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: what's the poe. Well, it depends on who's up out
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: you know who's available. But maybe you get two first
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: round picks. Yeah, I'd rather have that currency, and you know,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: whether you trade it away and get more picks or
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: use it. I think I'd want to be in that
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: position to have that off you're in the middle when
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: you're picking seventeen, he's gonna trade that too, Yeah, I
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: will say too, though. I mean I think over the
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: twenty plus years that he's been here, there have been
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: occasional times they've had top picks, you know, Seymour Mayo,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: and I feel like they need a player like that
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: right now. They need a top ten talented player at
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: a variety of positions they could use it. So that's
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: what's tempting to me about it, is, you know, getting
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: that kind of guy that that could really maybe make
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: make over one side of the ball for you quickly.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: And even Mayo was a trade down, right, right? What
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: did they go from? Like it wasn't a huge trade down,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: but it was a trade down. Rocky and Chino Hills, California.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: You know Chino Hills. Yeah, yeah, are they pleading that Chino?
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know, No, no good, I don't know. Usually
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: it's funny, you see you see the look. Sometimes I
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: go back to, uh, I end up um going back
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: to that stupid motorcycle show, The Sons of Anarchy. I
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: don't think thing that took place in California too. So
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: sometimes you ask me about places in California, like, oh, Stockton,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I just think the Sons of Anarchy, like
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: sometimes Chino Hills. I think that was another one. Maybe
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: a lot of TV shows I would think probably took
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: place in overtime when the Patriots needed five yards to
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: pick up the first Friday Sorry, I'll try the email.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Sorry Frank. In overtime when the Patriots needed five yards
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: to pick up the first down in a few additional
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: yards to get into field goal range, they ended up
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: hunting because they couldn't convert. Back in the olden days,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: they would have been able to pick up those yards
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: with a quick toss to the middle where either Welker,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Edelman or Amadola would make a much needed catch. Are
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: the current Patriots just not equipped with any players who
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: could make these kind of plays? Are our quarterbacks just
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: not seeing it? Or is the issue that they just
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: don't have any reliable plays in their current playbook that
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: they are willing to call to make that play? I
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: would have loved to note if Jacoby Myers was playing
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: last week, if that play that he's talking about could
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: have could have happened. Yeah, we also, like give the
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: guy a little bit of slack, and he's dealing with
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: a third string rookie quarterback and maybe he didn't want
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: to do anything that was going to put the ball
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: in harm's way. Yes, yeah, that's true. I mean they
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: were limited that they were really limited. The playbook was limited. Yeah,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: I mean it was all the same kind of stuff.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: I think they try to run a pick for Hunter Henry,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: and I think that I read a couple of places
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: that look like Agalore? Was it Agla? Who Parker miss
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: missed the rub? Someone was supposed to set a pick
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: for Hunter Henry and it kind of got blown up,
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: which is why he immediately left the pocket, which I
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: still think he left the pocket too quickly, But that's
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: what young guys do. Are you talking to third down
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: playing overtime? Yeah? Oh, I thought Hunter Hermy's open. I
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: thought he could have hit him. I thought, well, he
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: definitely when it was supposed to be an immediate throw
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: and it wasn't there. But when when you look at
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: the all twenty two, I saw that and he if
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: you'd thrown it right away, he was open. But you
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: you also have to take into consideration the congestion that
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: was in front of zapp yea and his height. He
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: might not have been able to you know, the lane
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: might have been clauded up. You know, in that situation,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: if you're if you're Bailey Zappy, I think you're you're
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: thinking like the throws to Parker and Agalore. If he's
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: wide open, I'm gonna let it fly. Otherwise I'm gonna
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: make sure I don't turn it. And then he almost
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: turned it over. Anyway, that's probably his worst play of
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: the game. That that particularly play when he spun around. Yeah,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: which you never do. Yeah, you know, unless year like
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: silly like Patrick mahome Zach Patty Mahomi. Yeah. All right,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: we'll take a break because Paul's foods here and we'll
• 46:18
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• 46:57
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• 47:04
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• 47:14
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  Speaker 1: So Hoyer wasn't there this So are we assuming Zappi's
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  Speaker 1: our starting quarterback this week? Yeah? I don't know. I
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  Speaker 1: Where's that hurt? Right? So you bring in a guy? Right?
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  Speaker 1: why would you bring in a guy that's right? What
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  Speaker 1: indoors walked through, so no paths. But I think this
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  Speaker 1: much better vantage point of the fee yield than outdoor practices.
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  Speaker 1: they were really worried about you know how there was
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: ore In Barth back. Yeah, they need to fix. They
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: need the nerves too bad. Evan didn't know that they
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: were really needing to fix because Blotch everybody like ten
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: people evidently they all call them on Sunday. They're very upset. Yeah,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: all right, they would be like you just please ask.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: We can talk about it off air, but I need names.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know what their names though. All right, let's
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: get to the phones. Speeds and Fresno, what's up? Speed?
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: What's going on? It was interesting how much like help
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: that be got um it was. It was great, like
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: the defense scoring and uh, the coaches like really holding
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: his hand and the Packers trying to throw away the
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: game for the better part of sixty minutes. And I
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: know there's those caveats like with with how you know
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: what helped him out there, But I was kind of
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: wondering if you thought that the way things looked were
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: like as different as you would have expected going from
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: your first string quarterback to your third string quarterback. I'm
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: not trying to bass on Mac with that. I'm just
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: kind of wondering, is it that Zappy looked better or
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: maybe Mac isn't all we're hoping to be a combination
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: of those things. What do you think. I like to
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: think if Mack had played, they'd won the game. I
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: like to think that if everything played out exactly the same,
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean, the entire game changes of Mac place. Yeah,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: like you don't necessarily get the same game from Green true.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: And you wonder if the offensive line would have been
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: you know, as you know, band it together. We've got to,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: you know, pick up our end of the deal if
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: Mac was there. But I'd like to think that they
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: would be you know, you know, like just extrapolate it
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: to overtime. You take over in the forty nine yard line,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: and overtime, Mac Jones is gonna get a first time.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: You're gonna You're gonna at least you might miss the
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: field goal. Not arrantine that they're gonna make the kick,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: but you're gonna get a field goal. You're gonna get
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: into range, you're gonna get a field goal off. Yeah.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: So I just kind of I want to wonder, like,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: um Fred, to your point, kind of like did the
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: like offensive line, for instance, kind of step it up
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: and led the fact that the kid needed some help.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: And when we look back on this game, is it
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: more likely going to be a blip on the radar
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: because of the extenuating circumstances with your Thurston quarterback, or
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: do you think that this is more likely stay six
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: weeks from now going to be like, hey, remember when
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: they started to turn it up right green, big game? Well,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: that's what I more likely. I hear what you're saying
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: to me. That's why I said, I'm not calling that
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: one a moral victory until I see what happens down
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: the road. If in the next two three games they win,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: they play, then I'll say, okay, that it was a
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: moral victory. It did propel them, it gave them a
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: positive it's more than likely to happen considering the schedule.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: It's all I'm saying. If you think that, but I'm
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: not that positive. I can't be. I just think that
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: you fell into this last year, fell into what like
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: they had mortal victories against Tampa and Dallas. Then they
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: ripped off seven in a row when everybody said look, look, look,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: and then they couldn't force a punt like it. One
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean anything to the other. That's all I'm saying. Okay,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: let's take him as they come out, figure it out.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: On the way. Yeah, I'd feel better if Mac was
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent healthy. Well I can't argue with that. No,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: I'm serious, starting ques, I'd feel better if he if
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: he never played again, feel better. But he's not, and
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: so we're what we're all left to wonder, what does
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: the result of the game at Lambeau, How will that
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: affect the next few games without Mac? Yeah, I mean,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: the only thing I really take from it is the
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: continued progression of the run game. And you know, but
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: as far as what they did in the passing game,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: I don't really see much other than maybe Mac watches
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: it and said there are plays there that I'm leaving
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: on the field that I see now from this perspective,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: And you know, we'll go into it when he comes
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: back more confident. But I find it hard to to
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: really draw things that you know, we're going to take
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: out a week four that are gonna matter when you
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: get to December. It's gonna depend on Mac when he
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: comes back and what the offense looks like with him. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: The other thing was we don't know if they're if
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: they're cupcake wins, Like, well, if we go up and
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: beat up on teams of the next day three weeks,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: like bad teams, we don't know if they're cupcakes couping
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: win or if the team is actually better, Like you
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: can't really tell the difference, I know, but let's not
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: forget we're one in three. I mean on a lot
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: of people's schedules, where the cupcake. Well, I hate to
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: say that we are involved in the only game of
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: the weekend between two teams with losing records. Yeah, you know,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: I hate to say that, but we're you know, for
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: a lot of teams in this league where the we're
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: the ones we should beat these guys, you know, like, well,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: was what was the stat two win teams? How many
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: fifteen fifteen? It's a fifteen two and two teams the
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: most ever through four weeks. I thought Aaron Rodgers look
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: impressively disinterested, even for Aaron Rodgers go and that. But
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: that's kind of my point about if if the game
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: unfolded exactly the same as I don't have I think
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent they win. If Mac Jones plays, I
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: think that the game may have unfolded a little differently
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: if Aaron Rodgers is engaged in the game from the outset. Yeah,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: and says, well, Mac Jones's plant. He said it after
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: the game. We couldn't lose that game and had a
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: third string quarterback plan. I mean, I mean, I'm not
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: crediting him for that. I think that was an embarrassing
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: performance in the first half by him. The pick six
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: was one of the worst players I've ever seen a
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: quarterback mate. He didn't even care at least Drew care
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: like he just went like, yeah, no, it was terrible.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: It was a terrible throw, and a lot of the
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: other throws were just I'm disgusted with my team. I'm
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: mad at you. I'm mad at you. I'm mad at you.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: You're not at my level. You don't belong on the
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: field with me. That's how we played the whole first half.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: You're right, he kind of played the whole game like that.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: He just made some better plays in the second half.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: I am absolutely I'm stunned. I am stunned by how
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: positive people are about Bailey's abbey, Like, I just I
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: understand that he did it and you know, crap down
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: his leg for lack of a better term on Sunday,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: But you watched the film back and he he did
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: without doing it obviously, let me put it to you
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: that way, right, like he didn't turn it over and
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: did intro a bad pick six or fumble the game away? Well,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: I mean at the end in overtime, right, But we
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: do conveniently forget that he did turn it over. I
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: had a whole conversation about it on the postgame show, Mike,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: and I had to convince a caller no, no, no,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: they did turn it over, and he did turn it over.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: And you know that sack happens in over three seconds.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: But Isaiah Winn gets blamed for it, obviously, and Dappy's
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: coming from the front side, right, and he did in
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: the overtime period, he did. He did grow the game away, honestly,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: And I am just I understand that Mac has not
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: played terrific football in the first three weeks of the season.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: But if any buddy, any objective observer, watches the three
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: first three games of the year, especially the Pittsburgh and
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: the Baltimore game, and then watches what Bailey's Appy put
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: on tape against Green Bay and thinks that that's close.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: I just don't know. I don't understand I'm gonna play
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: the other seven. You don't under like I. I deal
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: with these fans during the game. Harris is doing well,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: Stevens is doing well, what about Pierre Strong. It's like
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: it's always the next guy, right, like right, So that's
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: what I was gonna say to Evans point. I can
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: kind of understand why people are excited about Bailey's appy,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: even though I agree everything what you just said. I
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: understand that people said, well, he went in the game
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: and we were in lambeau Field and it's twenty four
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: to twenty four run overtime, and he's the guy quarterback
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: the whole game. So I get that. What I don't
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: get is the mac Jones attack that has happened in
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: the last couple of days, Like people saying, you think
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: Max Ankle's feeling better now, No, I think if he
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: had that on his mind at all, it be the opposite.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: Do you think that's what's going to replace me my
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: ankle I might need in a couple extra weeks. Now,
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: I know that's not what he's doing. He's gonna try
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: to get back out there I as fast as he can.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: But I've gotten a lot of people interact with me
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: to tell me mac Jones is one bad, one more
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: bad performance away from getting yanked. I agree with Evan,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: you think there's anything comparable to what Mac Jones did
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: against Baltimore and what Bailey Zappy didn't Green Bay blinded
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: by the immense pleasant surprise. Also, it is more about Mac, right,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: This is more about how the fan base currently and
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: I should've been because it's just people like the minority
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: that's loud right like, it's just people on Twitter and
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: people that call into the show is like ours like that.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: It's not necessarily everybody but the people that we are
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: hearing right now. I think it's more about Mac and
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: maybe his lack of progression in year two and the
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: fact that he hasn't taken a massive leap forward, and
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: I think to do with Bailey Zappy. But I'll just
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: go to one play, third down in overtime. Everybody's getting
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: on them for not going forward, getting on them for
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: the sequence of plays that led up to that point.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: It's got Hunter Henry wide open in front of him.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: It's a clean pocket. Yeah, all he's gotta do is
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: throw a five yard slant and the first on that play,
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: though Evan, I was looking at that, you know from
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: the all twenty two of you, it did seem like
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: in front of him was a little congested. He may
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: not have had the passing lane that people thought. So
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: I agree part of the problem Henry was open. I
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: agree with that, but I don't think he had a
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: clear lane to him. That's they brought some pressure, right,
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: they brought a five man rush and they stunted it
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: up front and he felt it. And that's when you
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: see the spin move and right. The whole thing is
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: because he felt the pressure coming. But actually the guy
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: that made the great block was from Andre rmandre Is.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: Stevenson stands up the looper in the hole and he
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: keeps the pocket clean and Zappie panicked. Yeah, he flat
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: out panicked. And it's okay. He's a third string quarterback
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: in his first ever edifation, Like I'm not saying it,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: like I'm not trying to crap all over the kids say,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: and it's I'm glad that Evan's here to say because
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: I think Mike and I were taken some heat for like,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: if you want to just say he stepped off the
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: bench completely on tests as a rookie fourth round pick,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: as the third stringer, and say he you know the train,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: didn't you know go spiraling off the tracks, right, that's accurate.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: But now if we're going to compare them to an
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: NFL quarterback, whatever it is saying is accurate too. Yeah,
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: that's all I am saying. I am comparing Bailey Zappy,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: not judging his performance, because in a vacuum what he
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: did on Sunday was admirable. He went out there, he
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: didn't Yeah, he didn't throw the game away when the
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: open throws were really there, like the Parker touchdown at
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: the Agalore passed later on in the game. He made
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: the easy throws that they made presented to him. But
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: when they needed a play in overtime and it was
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: there to be made, he didn't make the play. And
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: I guarantee you on that third and five, they set
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: it up, they have the stack alignment to his left,
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: they get Hunter Henry off the line of scrimmage out
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: of the stack, he's wide open right in front of him.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: Mac makes that throw ten times out of ten. And
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: that's just the difference is it's comparing him to mac Jones.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: It's not necessarily comparing the situation and saying that he
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: didn't live up to it or anything like that. But this,
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: this kind of push or campaign all of a sudden
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: that Bailey Zappy might be better than Jones's future. To
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: me is what has been kind of surprising. And you
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: guys know, I am sort of in the middle on
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: Mac Jones. I think he's good. I don't know what
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: he is long term, Yeah, but I don't have any
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: questions what he is long term in comparison to Bailey Zappy. Yeah,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: at least just not based off of what we saw
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: inside now. Yeah, I mean maybe, right, maybe Bailey ZAPPI
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: gets a whole year in the system and he gets
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe a little stronger. He's a small guy. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: And I found like, for me, like, I'm more excited
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: for Mac to come back now because it's just it
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: seems like they're continuing to progress and let's get our
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: guy back. You're going to be excited no matter what
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: ends up. Probably true, Probably true. Probably, I mean that's
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: what you hope though, right is that? Okay? You know
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: the past defense I wrote about it yesterday. Their past
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: defense right now, by pretty much every single important metric
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: at least is top ten in the league. Right their
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: top ten in DVOA, top ten and EPA per drop
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: back like they are a good past defense. They're limitating
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: explosive plays down the field. It takes Aaron Rodgers dropping
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: three dimes on them to get the ball down the
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: field on their past defense. So they have a good
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: past defense. They have a good running game if you
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: can clean up some of the other areas. Like, they
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: don't have to be the best run defense in the league,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: but they can't be three first in the league either, right,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: So you gotta get that better. You gotta hopefully get
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: the offensive line in the right tackle situation figured out.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: If you get those things just marginally better and then
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: you drop NAC back in, now you might be building
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: up to something. I mean, I think that's the hope.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: Do you have any fear, you know, I want to
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: ask a couple of questions. Want I wanted to ask
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: your opinion on Brian Hoyer in that game speed Are
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: you still there? Yeah, oh, I'm sorry, it's like you're
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: on the show. All right, Well, thanks for the call,
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: pre but Brian Hoyer, like, let's let's say, you know,
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: we're going to hypothetical and Brian Hoyer didn't get a concussion,
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: but you know he had to leave the game for
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: whatever reason. And he's available this weekend, wouldn't you feel better?
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: Like just yeah, right, I would because because that, to
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: me is more of a question than mac Jones. I
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: don't think anybody rationally would say I'd rather have Bailey
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: Zappy than mac Cols. But the question is, would anybody
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: rather to have Bailey Zappy than Brian Hoyer? And I
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: think a lot of people would rather have Zappy. I
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: wouldn't The zappy love is out of control, Yeah, it's
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: it's just shiny. Yeah. But Hoyer in that game, I
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: thought he made two catchable throws under pressure. The first
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: one Aglar caught, He's wide open. He ran that you know,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: post corner and broke away from man coverage is wide open,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: and he did get barreled down by Rashan Garry's first
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: beat of isaih Win was off the right side and
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: Hoyer was able to make a throw. I actually thought
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: the throw on third down to Hunter Henry was also catchable,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: and I thought Henry could have made better adjustment along
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: the sideline there to pull that ball, and he kind
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: of tried to one hand it and didn't really one
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: hand it. So I thought that one to the left
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: sideline third down right drive right before Brian Hoyer gets
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: knocked out of the game. It wasn't a great pass,
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: but he was under pressure. Again. It wasn't a great pass,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: but I thought it was catchable, and you know, I
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: thought Hunter Henry could have made a little bit of
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: a better adjustment on it. So I didn't think that
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer threw the ball poorly or played poorly at Yeah,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: I would agree, and we had talked about it earlier.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: He just like he allows you to use your playbook,
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: like you can run your offense with Brian Hoyer and
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: not say, well, we can't do these things with Brian,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: Like I don't know what Bailey Zappy has at his
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: disposal right now. What I saw on Sunday was, you know,
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: three coaches really sort of coaxing him through the game. Yeah.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: I mean after the game, I asked him about the
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: post crosser play that hit it for the touchdown of
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: Parker and then they agalor throws two downfield throws were
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: off the same concept, and he said, yeah, when I
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: went in the game, you know, whoever was Patricia Judge
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: comes out, you know, probably came up to him and said,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: what are the three four or five pass plays you
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: feel good about, Like if I call this, are you
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: going to feel good about running? And he said that
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: that was at the top of his list that he
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: felt really good about. The off play actions, you know,
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: that type of throw. So that play, I think, and
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: maybe two or three other route concepts were pretty much
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: the whole playbook was zappy under center. A lot of
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: it was play action, A lot of it was, I think,
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: what they'll probably try to do this week against the Lions,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: a little bit more of that under center play action,
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: maybe move the pocket a little bit more, try to
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: get him some easy throws. That that was sort of
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: go to my second one later we can go to
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: the car. All right, let's go to Eddie and Florida.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: What's up Eddie? Eddie? Hey, guys, all right, all right,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: so I got some lightning round trivia football after my comment.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: But Dappy being the shiny new toy, it's kind of
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: getting ridiculous. And if it's Hoy versus Dappy, come on,
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: you're talking no experience to right start experience. I know, uh.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: And if it comes to Matt Jones, it's a no brainer.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: It's ridiculous, true ridiculous. You would think yeah. I think
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: everyone here are yeah, yeah, no pushback? Is that it? No,
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: he's got lightning thing? All right, don't rain on my career,
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: all right? Go Can you hear me? Yes? Alex is
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: waiting for the questions she wants to chime in. I
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: got terrible reception right now. I'm going to try and
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: plug it into my car. Jez, we can hear you. Fine,
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: just just talk say words. Yeah, can you hear me? Fine? Yeah,
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: go ahead, Okay, we lost them, Eddie, I'll have I
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: don't know what's going on. Maybe you can call. I
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: think he plugs something in and lost us. Yeah, whatever
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: they did, just get hit by hurricane. Yeah, exactly, Yeah,
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: Patty's an agawams Patty? What's going on? Eumby one? Hey,
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: I got a question for a round table, and I
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: got a question specifically just for Revans. Don't get offended
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: everyone else, but don't block him in no block question
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: I want to throw out there to everybody, is um,
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: do you think um going forward to the rest of
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: the season that they're gonna keep Cannon in as ray
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: tackle unless they've run that that big you know they
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: run with the extra touch offensive linemen as the tight
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: end because it win to me. I mean, like, I
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: don't think he was bad the first few seasons when
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: he was healthy, but he just looks like he's blocked
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: a few miles per hour on his proverbial fastball. And Evan,
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: the question for you, what are you seeing on film
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: on first and borrow more that that's making him sort
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: of not stand out this season or what is he
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: doing or what is he not doing? Tah, he's getting
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: double team lot. He's definitely getting a lot of extra attention,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: which he got extra attention last year as well. But
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: I think you know he's in that Adam Butler role
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: a lot of the time where they're just asking him
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: to occupy guys and take on multiple blockers, and a
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: lot of the pressure that they're getting is because either
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: the outside guys get one on ones or they're stunting
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: the line and he's the penetrator and somebody's wrapping around
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: him and he's taken on two guys. His role this
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: year is not hasn't at least yet. Ben, We're gonna
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: hunt one on ones for Christian Barmore and let him
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: eat like he's been playing more of a team role.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: I guess is the way to that I can best
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: describe it. Whereas if you go and you turn on
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: Kansas City tape and you watch Chris Jones or Rams
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: tape and you watch Aaron Donald like they are hunting
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: one on one matchups, like we're gonna put him at
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: the three technique, we're gonna put him at the five,
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: we're gonna put him on the nose, and we're gonna
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: try to get him situations where he's one on one.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: With bar Moore, it's more of a team approach with
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: him right now. I thought some of his run defense
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: table was a little bit better. He gets reached sometimes
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: an outside zone, and I'm sure that that he'll work
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: on that. But so a lot of the things that
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: you see in the pass rush with him is he's
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: going through either a true double team because he's trying
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: to get double teamed, or he's got a one on one,
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: but then the center slides right, so the center will
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: look for work and then come out of nowhere and
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: kind of clean him out from his ear hole. And
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: those are the things that you have routinely seen through
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: the first four weeks, and I think it takes some
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: time too for a younger player like him to learn
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: how to deal with the extra attention, right, I don't
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: think he's quite figured that out yet. Of Okay, just
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: because I'm getting doubled, I still need to get to
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: the quarterback somehow. I still need to make an impact,
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: and I think there might be a little bit of
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: a learning curve going on there. I've just got a
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: lot of philosophical questions about this, and I hear everything
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: you're saying, and it's just I think like the topic
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: then is like is this the best thing for the
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: defense to continue? And I mean this is what DeMarcus
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: Covington's as anytime you ask him about his guys, his group,
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: it's you got to take one for the team essentially.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: And you know, I think we all felt like we're
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: sitting on a player here who maybe not Aaron Donald
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: or Chris Jones, but at the very least if you
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: could get him isolated on some one on one matchups,
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: that's a tough, tough matchup for the offensive line. How
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: do you learn to dominate within this kind of setup
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: where they're asking so much of you? You know, and
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: does can this player like I understand Richard Seymour, Vince Wilford,
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: they can dominate while being asked to take on double
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: teams and they can split them and they have the strength.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: You know, like, are we doing Christian Barmore and the
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: defense a disservice by not trying to build more around him.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: It's hard because on the one hand, Judon and Dietrich
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: Wise are eating right. I mean, they both of them
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: are one of the best in terms of tandems in
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: the league. They are up there with in terms of sacks,
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: pressure is all that sort of stuff. So they're getting
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: all the one on ones and they're taking advantage of them.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: So on the one hand, you're like, Okay, well, the
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: team approaches working because Barmore is getting doubled on the interior,
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: it's leaving the tackles one on one on the outside
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: and those guys are getting sacks and getting pressures. But
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: on the other hand, like you said, there's only so
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: many players that are on Christian Barmore's talent level on
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: this roster, and would it be nice to see him
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: be able to go one on one a little bit more?
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: I would say yes. Now, I think the biggest issue
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: that he has is that in this system, it's a
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: gap control system, right, So if you have the A gap,
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: you got the A gap. And if he's getting double teamed,
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: he can't go out of his gap, right because he's
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: got to keep his rush laye integrity. But he also
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: needs to be to double team. So it's he's kind
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: of in a tough spot, right, So they're not going
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: to allow him or they don't want him to go
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: from A to B just because he sees a double
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: team in a right. They just would rather him take
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: the double team. And that I think is something that's
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: more philosophical and schematic about what they like to do. Well.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: You said last week when we were talking about the
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: Rams Super Bowl, hearing Bill say, get up field, get
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: up field. You know, is that situationally, do you think
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: we can get them going a little like I mean, yeah,
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: not a true Shanahan offense. Maybe this week, but like, yeah,
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: I mean last week against Green Bay, which is a
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: Shanahanny offense for sure. Against outside zone, what they were
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: trying to do is they were trying to force the cutback, right,
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: So they're just firing Juwan Bentley into the line of scrimmage,
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: setting the edge of the defense and then forcing the
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: runner to cut back through the middle of the defense.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: For the reason why Jamie Collins this year is because
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: the linebackers weren't making the tackles. Yeah, there's these gaping
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: holes and they weren't making the tackles. So I was
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: a little bit surprised that they weren't getting more vertical,
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: as you were saying, more up the field against those
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: But again, you know, that was sort of the game
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: plan was, We're not going to let them get the edge.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: That's what we're going to take away. We're going to
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: force it back into the teeth of the defense, and
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: we are going to count on our linebackers and our
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: safeties to make tackles. And the linebackers just didn't have
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: a very good game. And I thought they struggled. I mean,
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: Mike and I sort of disagreed a little bit on
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: this yesterday. I thought they struggled up front, especially in
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: the first half. I thought they got pushed around a
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: little bit, and that was kind of across the board.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: Judean was really good in the game. I thought he
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: was a constant force. It's been good all year. Yeah, um,
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: I didn't. I mean for as great as Dietrich wise
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: has been. I think in the first three games. I
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: thought he was invisible in that game. Um and I
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: thought they ran with with with pretty good success throughout
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: the game and on both sides. Well, it was one
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: play downfield. It was a running play and uh wise
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: was in pursuit, so it was about seven yards downfield
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: and he tried to make a tackle. He bounced off
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: the pile like it was one of those like and
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: he was airborne. Did any of you guys see the
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: Twitter clip that was making the rounds of the Broncos
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: offensive lineman trying to get the Raiders scoop and score
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: fumble touchdown. He got inside the five and he was
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: close enough to dive, but he just sort of jumped
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: up on the ground in the pathetic. It's like when
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: when those guys, like I'm those guys just try to
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: steal second and they slide and they're like in a
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: five yards short of the bag. You know, It's like
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: it looked like it was funny. Oh man, that close though,
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: you just like there's like I just I think he
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: just said to himself, I can't just run right, I
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: better lay to the I better layout right. But he
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: laid out so awkwardly that it it was it was pathetic,
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: Tim and the Upper Peninsula of Michigan rights in. I
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: had a quick question, why what don't you like about
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: Bailey's appy? It seems you guys sound down on him,
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: and I'll admit I didn't really watch him in camp,
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: but in my opinion, he seems more confident than Mac
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: from what I've seen, and follows through with a few
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: throws we've seen him make in the last game. I'm
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: probably misreading this, but I'd love to hear your opinion.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: Do you guys think there's any chance he could be
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: really good? I haven't seen it yet. I mean, I
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: just I don't know there's something I have against him.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just think he's a rookie fourth round
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: pick who wasn't really ready to play, And even going
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: back to camp, there wasn't a whole lot that you
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: saw from him this summer that made you say, oh
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: there's something. I mean, I think he's looked fine. I
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: thought he had some moments on the practice field. I
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: don't think he looked very good in the preseason games.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: I'd rather him look good in the practice field than
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: the preseason games. I've said that many times, So I
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: mean this, I think there's some things I just don't
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: know about the skill set. I don't know how I
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: don't know much better he's going to get at six
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: one wink, and having very average mobility and very average
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: arm strength. I don't know how much better he's gonna get.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: I have to say that I heard them busting his
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: chops about six one. I think he is six one
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: because I'm about five to eleven and a half six
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: feet and he's definite. I was standing next to him
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: last week in the locker room and he's definitely a
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: little taller than I am. I was laughing because they
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: were like, he's like his draft profile, Like, dude, we
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: all we read all the stuff. I had to write
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: his draft profile when we got him in like I
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: think it was Lance Zeroline. It's like, you know, short
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: stop pocket passer, and I'm like, what, it's my high
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: school career, short stocky pocket passer. I got a shot.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: I just don't see it. I don't see I don't
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: see what these people are seeing, like out of that game.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: It's just that you are confident taking a fifteen yards sack,
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: like I think people really and this is kind of
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: like the offense thing he didn't know enough to be scared.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: But I think he I mean, I kind of agree whatever.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: And I think there were plenty of times where he
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: kind of looks Yeah, I think he looked confused. But yeah,
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: but like I mean, I just don't know what that means. Expectations.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: I think everybody thought this kid's gonna go out there
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: and he's so not ready, it's going to be a disaster.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: And it wasn't, you know. And I have to admit
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: I thought there was a chance that you could turn
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: it over a bunch of times and he didn't. Yeah,
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: And that's why I give Patricia and Judge and a
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: for that game, because I think they weren't going to
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: let it be a disaster. I think they managed him
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: really well. There were three or four plays and I
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: mentioned the one in overtime, which is probably obviously the
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: biggest one. There are at least three or four players
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: where he leaves a clean pocket. There's an open receiver
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: downfield and he just leaves the pocket. You know. It's
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: like it's like the offense. I think people heard all
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: of our talk about practice every day and kind of thought,
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: we're not even going to get to fourth down, to
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: be able to punt right, like this is gonna be
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you get a couple
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: of first downs. But it's like, Ohfich is better than
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: I thought. Yeah, Like they got to the red zone
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: once once with Bailey's at one time, they got to
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: the red zone once with Bailey Zappy playing quarterback, and
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: it's like, I wasn't expecting him to do that. Okay, well,
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: I think this might be an expectation problem now because
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: it's an NFL team and scoring seventeen points shouldn't be
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: out of the realm of possibility, right, But I think
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: he did that, and everybody's like, wow, is he better
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: than Mac Jones? Now, I feel like I'm being overly
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: defensive of Mac Jones and I'm already looke forwarm on him. Yeah,
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: And I feel like I'm bashing Bailey Zappy because I'm
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: just trying to and I'm not telling people what is
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: actually going on with him, and it's it's just crazy
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: to me that more confident than Mac Jones. First three
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: games of the season, Mac Jones led the league in
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: deep passes. I take nothing away from Bailey's How much
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: more confidence do you want him to be? Then? To
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: throw the ball down the fields like right, uh, Antoine
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: and Montreal. Thanks for the show. Gives me the best
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: alternate to all the hockey talk that happens up, which
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: might might love anyway, maybe it'll seem uninformed, but I
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: don't watch much college football, and all I based myself
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: on are the stats, which, to Paul's point, doesn't always
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: mean much. But how does a guy like Zappy have
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: all these records passing the ball in college but doesn't
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: translate to the pros? I mean, to throw for six
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: thousand yards? He must have had some talent or vision
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: or something. Same thing happened to Kellen Moore, who had
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: all these records at Boise State and then was struggling
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: to get the ball to Calvin Johnson in the pros.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: This is a very This is a whole This is
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: a whole essay. I could write on on that question,
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: but it's look in college, he's at Western Kentucky first
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: of all, so it's not like he's playing Alabama and
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: joy rig and you know, an SEC schedule every single week.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: But Western Kentucky they ran as modern of an offense
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: as you'll ever see. They were spread, they were four
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: or five wide all the time and they just aired
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: it out. I mean he had not only did he
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: break the passing record in terms of yards, I think
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: he also broke the passing record in terms of attempts.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: So he's he's throwing the ball six hundred times. You
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: know it's it was a full on air raid offense
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: where just spread the field and chuck it and he
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: was good at it. He was, which largely has not
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: translated to the NFL. Patrick Mahomes notwithstanding, Yeah, a lot
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: of Texas Tech quarterbacks weren't able to do when Mahomes
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: is done, But wat should that be? Throw the ball?
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: It seemed like it had more zip to it. When
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: Mac throws some passes, I find myself sighing in relief
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: when a receiver catches it, just looking to understand. And
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: I think, if Mac can play, you go with him.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: It's a no brainer. I'm hoping the time off gives
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: Max some time to unwind. He looks so stressed to
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: start the season. Mac looks stress. I don't know. This
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: is all making me want Mac back more and more.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: You'd like to see what it actually looks like. But
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: the zip thing too bothers me. All this bothers me obviously,
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: because because I don't know what people are watching, I
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: don't know what they're seeing in the zip twenty five
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: yard floated to Parker or the twenty yard floated and which,
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: by the way, if he throws that ball in a
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: line to Agalore, it's also a touchdown. But he tried to.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: He lost to get killed the linebacker who's ten yards
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: in front of Agalore. He's so petrified of of throwing
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: the ball to the linebacker instead of Agalore that he
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: puts all the air under it. But the ZIP thing
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: all like, because that's all just in your eyes, right,
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: that's all subjective. It's just all what you your eye
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: test is telling you. Where you don't have there is data,
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: but they don't really share the data on velocity yet, right,
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: we don't really have velocity of throws and things like that. Yeah,
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: we have air a distance, but not velocity. But that's
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: all what your eyes are telling you. And I think
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: with a lot of people, they just want their eyes
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: to tell them certain things. That Bailey is appy has
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: got this cannon compared to Mac Jones. Neither guy has
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: a kid. Now, I'll both guys have below average arm
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: talent yep, UM's Eddie's gonna give it another shot, Florida.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: What's up, Eddie? You have the trivia questions ready, Yeah,
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: it's all set. Okay, there you go. I got good reception. Nice,
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: all right, Paul, this is gonna have to be a
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: lightning round. I don't want to take up too much
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: you guys this time. But it's seventies and eighties Patriots.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: It's I'm gonna let you choose with a number. I
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: set it up where I give you the number, you
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: give me the name of the seventies and eighties Patriots. Okay,
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: twenty four of them will fly through and you get
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: three at the end. Okay, want either way, whatever you
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: have it set up, just let them, let them flip.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: You switch them up along the way, all right, I will,
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: I'll switch it up, all right. Forty eight, Tim Fox fifty,
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: Why shout, I'll pass pass on that one. Oh, Sam Hunt,
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: Sam Hunt forty Stam Hunt good? Forty two? Um we
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: going eighties two. Ronnie Lapette, M sorry, that was the
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: seventies one. That's my bad, because forty two is more
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: associated with Lappette gave himself the buzzer. Okay, I thought
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: we're gonna whip did you get forty two? Though it
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: wasn't Ronnie Lapette, Oh, mac Herron, mac Heron mac all right,
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: it's the world's original. Thirty one, Fred Marion, fifty two,
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: Johnny remember ninth seventies twelve Matt Kavanaugh, I haven't even
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: heard of nine fifty nine, fifty nine, fifty nine five nine.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: I'mnna have to pass on that one one, all right? Clayton?
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: Why s what was that was that one? Twenty six?
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: Ray Clayborne? Sixty sixty is? Uh? What was Pete Brott?
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: I don't have to pass on that one too. Thirty eight,
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: eighty thirty eight, Horace Ivory, No, no, Ike Forte? Who's that? Okay?
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: He Surefi Forte was wore that in the seventies. But
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: the eighties it was Roland James. Then I thought it
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: was a seventies thirty eight in the eighties, Roland James
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: Kay thirty mossy seventy eight in the seventies. All right,
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: Tom Neville, we'll give you in paul A Show later.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: All right, how many of those did I get wrong? Uh?
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: You got most of them right, Okay, He's gonna go
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: with fifty three. Laugh. That's Clayton wy Shoon. Okay, I
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: knew he was in there somewhere. He's like the Randomphis. Great,
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: thank you, thanks Eddie, but unbelievable all remembers all those guys. Um, Yeah,
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: so I have This is the other question I had
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: for Evan. You talked about the past defense. Ye would you,
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: um in your mind try to be trying not to
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: use the numbers for you for this? Do you think
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: that their statistics are more based on the fact that
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: they've played what I would say a three subpar passing
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: games out of four weeks so far with pitt Pittsburgh,
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: Baltimore and Green Bay. I wouldn't put Baltimore in that category.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: They've been thrown well. But even when they throw it,
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: they don't throw it for a ton of yards. They're
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: gonna your numbers are gonna be good. And that's all.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: It's about his stats. I mean, Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers,
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: no matter what way you cut it. Yeah. And if
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: Romeo dops catches the ball, not very good number. I
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: would say that you can't throw what he catch it too?
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: Was I hear you, I would say that I'm still
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: You're still cautious about it, right, because yeah, I don't think.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: I don't think their secondary. I think their numbers look
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: a lot better than their play. So I'm impressed by
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: the amount how few coverage busts I've seen in four games,
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: Like they don't bust coverages. Jack Jones did bust the coverage,
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: but he's a rookie, will give him a break. Is
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: one time. I think I could probably count on one
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: hand how many times they've truly busted a coverage like
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: a guy's going in the wrong place or you know,
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: we see it all the time. I would agree with that, Like,
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: like there's against Miami had just bust correct, haven't seen that, right, Age,
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: I would agree with you. So what I like about
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: what you know I'm getting at is that in order
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: to beat the Patriots secondary, you gotta beat the Patriots
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: secondary like Rogers did in the second half dropping three
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: dimes down the field, like you can't. They're not just
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: giving it to you, And that I can, I can behind.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: I also like in this Tay and Age, limiting an
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: explosive plays is the name of the game. Every coach
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: you talk to, that's all. They just don't want to
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: give up the chunk plays because you're the rate in
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: which you score improves exponentially if you get a twenty
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: plus yard play, whether it's on the ground, order through
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: the year. So they're not giving up big plays and
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: they're making you earn the yards. Now, are they a
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: dominant secondary? Is this you know, hand At eighteen nineteen
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: or the Legion of Boom or something like that. No,
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: certainly not. But they're making you earn it. And I
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: think what we saw it at Jack Jones, who had
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: an up and down game. I know, the turnovers really
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: stand out, and the pick six was was really good technique.
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: But I think overall what you saw at Jack Jones
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: is really positive. And not to pick on the person
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: that everybody else picks on, but if someday down the road,
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: Miles Bryant is the odd man out and it ends
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: up being the Joneses and Jalen Mills, I think that
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: that secondary looks really really good on paper, especially with
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: how good they are at safety. So is it as
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: good as the numbers suggests. Maybe not, But I think
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: that the fact that they challenge you and make you
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: earn the yards instead of just these other defenses that
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: bus coverages all the time. I like that about their secondary.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: Let's go to Eldred and North Carolina. Hey, Eldred, Hey,
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: fellows and lady, how you doing. Hello Eldred. Hey, I'm
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: sorry about yesterday. I got pulled over the waste station
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: doing me and the cop talking, Oh yeah, did you
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: have all your papers? You have to keep it low? Yeah,
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: on my paperwork. Yeah. Hey know what I'm talking. How
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: to keep it low, aren't you? Yeah, it's something to
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: get through those long drives. I was a short driver.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: I'm local, but you still gotta go to a waste station. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: So that was that on that though, but I got
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: a question off something that means a couple of guys around.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: He was kicking around about the Patriots. This we got
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: because we didn't keep legend by the go buy him
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: like you don't want to play there? And pet Brown,
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: I want to play on the left side. Do you
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: think it's the issue with the money because they slopped
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: We know if I'm on the right side, I'm not
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: gonna get the contract with the lift that and Brown
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: want to be on the right side, but not to
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: lift side because he's not getting paid for the left side.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: Could be my money's always a fifty. Brown has played
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: a lot better. I think, you know, after the first game, awesome,
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: he was really good. He's out there flexing, But I'm
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: sure he wants to get paid left tackle money, jumping
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: those snaps. He wants to get played the left tackle money.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: If he plays like he did on Sunday, He's gonna
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: get paid left tackle money. Isaiah Win's thing. God help
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: whoever does. I don't think olough. He's a two year
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: deal regardless of if he's left or right. First of all,
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: right tackles get paid now too, not quite as much
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: as left tackles do, but they still get paid. And
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: he's in a contract year. I mean, I just there's
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: no incentive to me for Isaiah Win to mail it
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: in like hell, But I think, but I wonder how
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: he feels about this decision and how he feels about
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: being a right tackle. That's that's my thing, not so
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: much like I'm not playing the right tackle. I mean,
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: is it harder to just switch? It is hard? I think,
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm going into my free agent year and
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: I'm asked to be playing a patient I've never played,
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: and I don't like one. Right, I don't know that's
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: what I say to kick out this way. I think
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: it's the footwork right, because I mean their hand placement
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: stuff is obviously opposite as well. But your post foot
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: and your outside foot are now different feet. So the
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: foot you're driving off of when you're kicking out to
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: slide and pass protections are different. It's the opposite foot.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: So your whole life, you're training the your your right
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: foot on the left side to be your stronger foot
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: and be that really that driving foot, and now they're
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: asking you to drive off your left foot, and it's
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: a completely different technique at that point. So I do
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: wonder about about that a lot. The pre snap stuff too, though,
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: Like that's not you know, that's the stuff where it's
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: like you're mentally engaged, like you're jumping the snap. I
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: mean multiple times penalties. I mean, how many penalties he's
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: had at this point. Well, you know, the more you
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: have to think about, the more you are apt to
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: make those pre snap mistakes, you know. Yeah, I mean
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: it couldn't have no excuse on his part. I just
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: wonder what the whole process was with this whole switch,
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: And I mean I think it goes back to we've
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: talked about it, but I mean, it's as I say it,
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: when nobody ever considered he would move to right tackle
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: like that was came out of nowhere. I think I'm
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: assuming it came out of my Yeah, well that was
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: with him was an all pro guard right on the left,
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: a third tight end. Yeah yeah, I still like, yeah, good.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, but Paul, I agree with I
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: agree with Hardy and then uh and then over time
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: win overtime laud Why didn't you just you know, I
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: know you don't want to push the kid, but why
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: did you get to a play action and then moved
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: about we kicking the game and winning instead of watching
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: hair and come back? In retrospect, yeah, I mean, I
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: would have thought you'd be able to line up three
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: times run it for a first down. The other way
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: you ran it all game, But in retrospect, I wish
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: we had taken a shot. No, I can't lie from
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: from the TV. Thing from from the couch and my
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: girlfriend to me be quiet because I had the baby
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: custom too, so I was cousin. He was custing market.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: Good for you add that a boy the next generation cousin. Now, yeah,
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: they ran it for four yards on first down five
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: four or five second and five. Yeah, and yeah, that's
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: it's a second guest for sure. Yeah, um Cole and
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: Eugene Oregon. I'd like to know why Paul considers Dan
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: Campbell to be the worst coach at football. From what
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: I understand, he started in twenty twenty one with an
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: abysmal Lions team. That's not quite true, though, is it
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: that improved and started winning games at the end of
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: the last year. They went from one of the worst
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: to one of the best offenses in the league. Statistically,
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: They developed a young star wide receiver, the quarterback is
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: playing well, and they seem to have built a cohesive
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: team identity, fast and loose. As Duke says, what's with
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: all the hate for Dan Campbell? Paul, good question. He's
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: four sixteen and one is the Lion's head coach. But
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: they play hard for him, probably hard for him. I
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: watched Hard Knocks, I really, I mean, I thought at
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: first he seems like kind of a caricature of of this,
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: but he really lives it. And and I think that
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: the guys see that there's certainly fast and loose on
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. But I mean, how
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: can you not and again doing we're working, so we're
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: not watching play by play of every Lions game. I
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: can tell you someone who does watch play by play
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: of every Lions game. Hardy No, my good, My good, buddy,
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: Dan Ventura. Okay, okay, Hardy's working with us, so he's
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: not watching the game, watches the replay, loves the Lions. Wow.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: And every week it's the same thing on Twitter. It's like,
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: why are we going for this one? What is he doing?
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: He's costing us again, he costs us a chance to
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: win the game. That's that happened in the Minnesota game,
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: and it happened to a lesser extent in the Seattle game.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: I think that to give him credit for the offense,
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: that's a stretch. It's also been a pretty cupcake schedule defensively,
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: I mean the Seahawks defenses. Philadelphia has been pretty good
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: defensive One that game that really looks good on paper
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: for Detroit is that Philadelphia game. But they're running the ball.
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: They're averaging five point nine yards per carry right now.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: All the six yards to carry and the whole league
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: thing is just you know, I told you guys before
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: two high safety shells load up against the pass playing
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: twenty two and twenty pound guys at linebacker positions. And
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: the Lions, and I think the Patriots to an extent
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: to have been kind of going. The league is running
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: the ball, and I would tell you that that's why
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: scoring is down throughout the league. Yeah, I mean past
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: everybody's runnings down because teams are playing a lot more
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: of this split safety stuff and building out their defense
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: personnel wise to defend the pass. And now guys like
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: Dan Campbell, even in Bill Belichick, I would say, is
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: adhering to this as well as we're just gonna run
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: you over then, And the Lions are So I asked
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: this to the other people on the show. I'll ask you, Evan,
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: if for this game, who would you rather have back
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent Lawrence Guy or Hoyer? Lawrence Sky Hoyer. Interesting,
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: I would say Lawrence Guy because this is a gap
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: downhill attack that the Lions use. They're not zone, they're
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: not trying to get outside zone going and stuff like that.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: They are trap wham power like right downhill at you.
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: So in that type of game, that's a Lawrence Guy
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: type of game. Right. You got guys on a lot
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: of scrimmage that can take on double teams and be
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: able to hold the point of attack like this is
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: one of those style of games. So I would say
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: Lawrence guy to that, everybody said guy except Paul. He
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: said Hoyer, but I thought I thought he had good
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: reason for I just think that you need to have
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: your offense in this game. I don't think it's realistic
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: that you're gonna win this game seventeen thirteen. And I
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: don't have a lot of confidence that Bailey z Abby
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: can score thirty, right, So I'd rather have a guy
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: who I think, Brian Hoyer against this defense could score thirty. Yeah.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: Irma in Flint, Michigan. A lot of Michigan listeners and callers,
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  Speaker 1: writers and callers today, I've been hearing the Zappy talk
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  Speaker 1: and just wanted to give my opinion as to why
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  Speaker 1: people are saying they want to see him. First, people
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  Speaker 1: who want to see Zappy over the development of Jones
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  Speaker 1: are out of their minds. Jones should be playing when
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  Speaker 1: he's ready. Second, the people who are talking about Zappy
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  Speaker 1: over Hoyer, I think just want to take a new
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  Speaker 1: toy out of the toy box to see what they've got.
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  Speaker 1: It seems to me that if you punt on the season,
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  Speaker 1: some people would rather see the kid versus Horrior, since
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  Speaker 1: we know that's what hoyer ceiling is. I agree that
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  Speaker 1: if you're going to be chasing the playoffs, every possible
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  Speaker 1: win is important, and Horrier should start. But if you
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  Speaker 1: would rather see what the kid does, to hell with
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  Speaker 1: the win total, I can see that too. If you
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  Speaker 1: lose to Detroit and Cleveland, then I would say sure
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  Speaker 1: until yeah, until mac Jones is ready, I'd rather see Zappy.
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  Speaker 1: But I still think they were one of three last
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  Speaker 1: year and made the playoffs. Why can't you do it
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  Speaker 1: again with all these two and two teams. I think
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  Speaker 1: you need to try to win the games, and I
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  Speaker 1: think Hoyer gives you a better chance to win if
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  Speaker 1: you fall out of it. I would rather see Zappie
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  Speaker 1: play than than Brian Hoyer. I would agree with the
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  Speaker 1: listeners that, yeah, I get it how last year down
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  Speaker 1: the stretch has sour people on that whole season. But
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  Speaker 1: like you just said, they were one and three and
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  Speaker 1: two and four last year and then they rattle off
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  Speaker 1: seven straight wins, they win ten games and make the playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: Like that is still very much in play. The schedule
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  Speaker 1: from this point on to Thanksgiving is not very difficult.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you're playing a bunch of teams below five hundred.
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  Speaker 1: I think they're ten thirteen and one. The combined record
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  Speaker 1: of the next six games of those teams have better
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  Speaker 1: records than us. Yes, but you're able to see a
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  Speaker 1: path here too. When Nago play Buffalo on Thursday night
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  Speaker 1: after Thanksgiving, the Patriots, could they win, you know, six
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  Speaker 1: out of the next seven or even five out of
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  Speaker 1: the next seven and get themselves around five hundred to
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  Speaker 1: be back in it. I think the answer is yes. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Juan and Mexico. I'm so sick that some fans saw
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  Speaker 1: Zappy make two wide open passes and immediately believe he's
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  Speaker 1: in next Tom Brady. It's the same as last year
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  Speaker 1: over hyping Mack during the winning streak by just being okay, yes,
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  Speaker 1: if Thornton gets to play this season, well that uh
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  Speaker 1: sentons born to be traded or cut. Yeah. I think
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  Speaker 1: that's a great point. It's a really interesting We're going
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  Speaker 1: to talk about this on Patriots Catch twenty two. Can't wait.
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  Speaker 1: I did the market tease, but yeah, when Tayclon comes back,
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  Speaker 1: I mean they're already playing four wide receivers. There's already
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  Speaker 1: not enough snaps for Kendrick Bourne's. Now you got five
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  Speaker 1: wide receivers. You draft the guy in the second round,
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna want to play him. He's not gonna say
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  Speaker 1: he is coming back. Worden's going to come back. He
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't have been out there a practice today if they
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  Speaker 1: didn't think he had a chance to come back. So
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  Speaker 1: two's odd man out at this point. You gotta be somebody. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's an interesting thing with two. When you consider Myers
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  Speaker 1: and Agalore contracts up next year, you think maybe you
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  Speaker 1: could turn one of those spots over to him, But
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  Speaker 1: how do you get him the snaps now to get
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  Speaker 1: them that experience so you feel comfortable maybe letting Aglo
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  Speaker 1: wak I mean I said you should keep Myers. I
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  Speaker 1: think he has a place, but you know you're really
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  Speaker 1: in the position now to play Thornton over Agalore. As
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  Speaker 1: as with anticipation of that, I don't know's it's tough.
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  Speaker 1: I've always spending to me, they're best separat I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Parker and Agile are both on the first day of camp. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's been I would agree with you. Matt and Devon UK.
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  Speaker 1: So I like to win and play to win every
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  Speaker 1: game as much as anyone. But do you think we
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  Speaker 1: are best off in the long run if we lose
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  Speaker 1: the games to teams close to us? I mean this.
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  Speaker 1: I mean this as if we keep ending the season
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  Speaker 1: with about a five hundred record and picking around twelve
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  Speaker 1: to fifteen in the draft, are we ever going to
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  Speaker 1: get those stud players to really turn this around and
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  Speaker 1: get back to contending. I just wonder if we are
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  Speaker 1: better off having that one bad season and have a
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  Speaker 1: top six or seven pick and able to get a
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  Speaker 1: real difference maker. Yeah, think you can get real difference
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  Speaker 1: makers in the team. And how many teams are picking
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  Speaker 1: top ten year, Like if you need a quarterback ten
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  Speaker 1: if you need a quarterback. If you need a quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: then I would say, yeah, maybe they're better off just
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  Speaker 1: having a terrible year. I don't think they'll take a
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  Speaker 1: quarterback now if they had a top five pick. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think they would. I'm telling you why wouldn't. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think they would. Why can't you get a really
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  Speaker 1: good player at sixteen? You can? You can got Mac Jones,
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  Speaker 1: Audrey writes in She says, Paul, I think people may
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  Speaker 1: be confused about how you feel about Zappy because you
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  Speaker 1: have clearly said on other days that he has a
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  Speaker 1: better arm than Mac, that he was the best arm
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  Speaker 1: in camp. I think he does have a better round
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  Speaker 1: than Mac. I don't think either one of them has
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  Speaker 1: a really good arm. Okay, can we go back to
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  Speaker 1: the draft question for a second, because my biggest thing
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  Speaker 1: with it is, are any of us in this room
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  Speaker 1: convinced that Bill would actually pick in the top ten
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  Speaker 1: and not trade the pick? No, we already talked about
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  Speaker 1: that too, because that's gonna I'm all for. You know,
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  Speaker 1: if you're gonna be right in the middle, if you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna be fifteen like they were a few years ago,
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  Speaker 1: then I'd rather be top ten than be fifteen and
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  Speaker 1: not try to, you know, make a push at all.
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  Speaker 1: But is he gonna make the pick? Like, if they
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  Speaker 1: have the seven picking the in the draft, are they
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  Speaker 1: making that pick? Well, I mean they might, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we when's what's the highest pick they've had in a
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  Speaker 1: long time? Ten? Right? Well? Mac was fifteen? Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: mean yeah, Seymour was six. Well, fifteen, It is probably
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  Speaker 1: the answer to that question. Yeah, So like we haven't
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  Speaker 1: seen it. Like, if I'm sure, if there was someone
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  Speaker 1: that Bill loved in the top seven, he would pick
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  Speaker 1: the person. But if if he thinks he can get
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  Speaker 1: equal value by trading down, he's going to do that.
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  Speaker 1: I'd rather have the Like I said earlier in the show,
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  Speaker 1: I'd rather have the currency. I know a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people said, what's the sense of having a top five pick.
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  Speaker 1: He's not going to use it. Well, he'll use it.
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  Speaker 1: He just might use it as currency to get more
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  Speaker 1: picks a little lower. Either way, I'd love to have
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  Speaker 1: that high pick. But I feel like that's how we
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  Speaker 1: get into this this issue of not having any top
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  Speaker 1: end talent. Because if they have a top ten pick
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  Speaker 1: and c J. Strout is still on the board and
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  Speaker 1: some team wants to give them the RG three package
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  Speaker 1: to move up to draft CJ. Stratt, he's taking it.
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  Speaker 1: We all know he's taking it. But then when you
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  Speaker 1: run into the issue is that, Okay, well they just
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  Speaker 1: traded seven to trade down to nineteen, and now all
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  Speaker 1: the blue chip prospects are off the board at nineteen, right,
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  Speaker 1: and now you're picking, you know, another another one of
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  Speaker 1: those kind of starter caliber players but not actually a
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  Speaker 1: difference maker or a blue chip or whatever. You want
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  Speaker 1: to call it, but I mean you also have the
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  Speaker 1: twenty twelve draft where they, you know, took two guys
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  Speaker 1: in the first round that were in the twenties that
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  Speaker 1: both ended up being really good. You can get better players,
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  Speaker 1: So I got it. And I also don't think that
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  Speaker 1: it's as easy as you just tank. You have one
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  Speaker 1: bad year and then you get an awesome player and
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  Speaker 1: then all as well, like there's a lot that goes
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  Speaker 1: into losing those you tank and you get that one
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  Speaker 1: great player. Unless it that one great players a quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't. And that's why I said I'm not necessarily
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  Speaker 1: in favor of because I'm not sure that they would
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  Speaker 1: write like CJ. Stratt, I don't know if they would
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  Speaker 1: take him. No, I think that they probably still feel
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  Speaker 1: feel pretty good about mac Jones. Yeah I would, as
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you're in position to get the
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  Speaker 1: best quarterback on the draft next year if he would
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  Speaker 1: take it, right, But also sorry, Fred, I know you're
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  Speaker 1: trying to get the lead up, but like you can't
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  Speaker 1: just tank and like everyone's gonna be like, well, we
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: just tanked and now we're all back, Like you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: lose guys, You're gonna lose fans, like the whole perception
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  Speaker 1: of the team. You start losing to Cleveland's and the
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: detroits of the world, Like it's it's not that simple,
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  Speaker 1: it's just we'll lose it. Can get that guy and
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  Speaker 1: then oh, you know, we're back on track. Like it's
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  Speaker 1: hard and you can do it the other way by
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  Speaker 1: I think the bailey'sz appy thing is is funny to me.
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  Speaker 1: And listen, I do think he like if you're just
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: gonna line up and throw the ball. I think you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna like the way it looks coming off of Bailey
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  Speaker 1: z Appy's hand probably a little better than mac Jones.
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  Speaker 1: Everything else is so far in a way better for
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 1: mac Jones, like accuracy, decision making, experience, size, mobility, like
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  Speaker 1: there's nothing else. I think that Bailey's appy. When he
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: throws the ball, it spins really tight. I think he
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  Speaker 1: throws the ball well, not hard. He doesn't have a
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  Speaker 1: strong arm. I think it might be a little like
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  Speaker 1: if he matched it up one on one with mac Jones,
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  Speaker 1: his might be he might throw it a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more velocity. Hand size at all, hands he's small. I
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  Speaker 1: tell you that nine in a quarter. I can look
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  Speaker 1: it up. But I mean so when I say that
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  Speaker 1: I think he has a better on than mac Jones,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't mean I want him throwing the ball more
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 1: than I want Max's throwing. Ye just means I think
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  Speaker 1: you throw us a little bit harder than Macca. All right,
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