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Rants and Ryley... · Billy & Lisa in the Morning: The After Show

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  Speaker 1: Okay, let's get this thing going. Hi, everybody. After Show Army,
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  Speaker 1: welcome into the podcast. It's a Monday morning, rainy Monday morning,
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  Speaker 1: Nor'easter this weekend. Today is September 28th. We are very
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  Speaker 1: close to spooky season. October. We're supposed to go to
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  Speaker 1: Canobie this past weekend. It was opening night for, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I always, is it Spooky World? Oh, God, I always
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  Speaker 1: mess this up. It's confusing because they have Nightmare of
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  Speaker 1: New England and they have Spooky World, but the haunted
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  Speaker 1: houses were this weekend. supposed to be, but they didn't open, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: because of the Nor'easter. So it's going to be next weekend,
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  Speaker 1: and it's bring, if you have a season pass, bring
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  Speaker 1: somebody with you. My son has a season pass, so
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  Speaker 1: he's going to bring his good old dad, who paid
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  Speaker 1: for the season pass, to Canobie this weekend. That should
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  Speaker 1: be fun. It's great. The only thing that stinks, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be really bad with the opening weekend,
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  Speaker 1: but the lines, they're long, but it's fine. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's worth it. The houses are good. And plus, Canobie's open.
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  Speaker 1: So you can walk around. You can play games. You
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  Speaker 1: can do rides. It's kind of cool being there at nighttime.
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  Speaker 1: I went last year. Hadn't been in a long time.
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  Speaker 1: My son loves it. So that's all that matters. So
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  Speaker 1: that was supposed to be this weekend, but the Nor'easter hit.
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  Speaker 1: And I feel like I was the only one on
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  Speaker 1: the show that had anything happen. You know, we were
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  Speaker 1: kind of poking fun at Bill about his boat. Not
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  Speaker 1: that we want anything to happen to Billy's boat. But,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's always like I'm going down with the ship.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, I did call his wife, Michelle, on Friday.
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  Speaker 1: And I said, Michelle, you cannot let him sleep on
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  Speaker 1: the boat. You cannot. And she was like, I agree.
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  Speaker 1: She made him stay home both nights. And the boat's okay. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: my house, a tree came down in my backyard. Just
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  Speaker 1: missed the chicken coop too, by the way, which is
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  Speaker 1: crazy because I woke up on Saturday morning. Was it
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  Speaker 1: Saturday or Sunday? It was Sunday morning. So I woke
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  Speaker 1: up Sunday morning. I was the first one up. I
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  Speaker 1: went into the living room, which, by the way, has
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  Speaker 1: a bay window that overlooks the backyard. And I was
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  Speaker 1: like so tired. I hadn't drank any coffee yet. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't even notice the tree. I just sat down, chilling,
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  Speaker 1: watching the news, drinking my coffee, scrolling on my phone.
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  Speaker 1: And then my wife comes out and she's walking in
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  Speaker 1: and I hear her just scream, oh my God, are
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  Speaker 1: the chickens okay? And there was a big, big tree.
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  Speaker 1: So the tree came down out of my neighbor's yard,
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  Speaker 1: which is we call the mean lady. We don't speak
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  Speaker 1: to her because, well, that's another whole story. She yelled
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  Speaker 1: and screamed at us as soon as we moved in.
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  Speaker 1: So we haven't spoken to her once. So it came
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  Speaker 1: out of her yard into our yard, just missed the
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  Speaker 1: chicken coop, very close, and just missed the fence as well.
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  Speaker 1: So there could have been major damage. Luckily, no damage,
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  Speaker 1: no injuries, just a giant log in my backyard. So
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  Speaker 1: it's all good. I don't know how to use a chainsaw.
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  Speaker 1: I never have. To be honest with you, they scare me. Like,
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  Speaker 1: how do I know, right, that if I'm using that thing,
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  Speaker 1: it's not going to, like, fly off the blade and
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  Speaker 1: just cut my face open. I don't know. Could happen.
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  Speaker 1: But I called my buddy Alan, asked him if he
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  Speaker 1: knows how to use a chainsaw, and he was like,
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  Speaker 1: I'll come there with my dad and cut it up.
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  Speaker 1: So that's cool. Shout out to Alan and his dad.
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  Speaker 1: And I'll just, like, move all the brush and tree
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  Speaker 1: stuff into the woods. I think he's going to take
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  Speaker 1: the wood to heat his house. So things all work out.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Other than that, good weekend.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, there wasn't much to do. We had, like,
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  Speaker 1: we had Canobie. Didn't do that. Ended up at Fun
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  Speaker 1: City in Salem, New Hampshire. That's another whole story in
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  Speaker 1: my life. We have this place called Fun City on
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  Speaker 1: 28 in Salem, and my kids love it. My son
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  Speaker 1: Abel loves it. He'll spend all day there, literally hours.
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  Speaker 1: And it's fine. It's not a big deal. But it
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  Speaker 1: never gets old. Like he'll do it any time. So
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  Speaker 1: every weekend if there's nothing to do, it's like let's
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  Speaker 1: go to Fun City. So we did the whole like Salem,
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  Speaker 1: New Hampshire thing. We went to the mall. We went
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  Speaker 1: to Dick's Sporting Goods. Then we walked around the mall
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  Speaker 1: and bought squishies. And then we got in the car,
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  Speaker 1: drove to Fun City and spent about four hours there.
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  Speaker 1: And it's not that bad either because they have massage chairs.
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  Speaker 1: So I just chill in the massage chair, maybe get
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  Speaker 1: a snack while the kids run and run amok throughout
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  Speaker 1: the whole place. They just redid it, by the way, too.
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  Speaker 1: Looks really good. They added a bunch of stuff. They
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  Speaker 1: kind of moved things around. I don't know. I like it.
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  Speaker 1: And then yesterday we had a surprise birthday party for
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  Speaker 1: Jen's grandmother, which is basically my grandmother, too. In Salem
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  Speaker 1: there at Nani's favorite Chinese food place, a place called
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  Speaker 1: Yang Ming. I don't know why she loves this place
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  Speaker 1: so much, but she does. It's good. But, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's Chinese food, right? So we had a room rented out.
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  Speaker 1: We went there and had everybody there, the family, and
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  Speaker 1: then they lured her grandmother there as, like, girls' dinner
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  Speaker 1: for her birthday. And she walked in, and there we were, surprise,
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  Speaker 1: which was nice. And the pats were on, getting crushed.
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  Speaker 1: So all in all, it was a solid, solid weekend,
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  Speaker 1: even with the Nor'easter. But Canobie this weekend should be fun.
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  Speaker 1: I hosted my gala too on Friday night, by the way.
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  Speaker 1: Shout out to the Merrimack Valley YMCA. Raised a ton
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  Speaker 1: of money for all the youth, all the things that
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  Speaker 1: the Y offers the kids, things like summer camp, things
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  Speaker 1: like swim lesson, things like after-school programs. They had a
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  Speaker 1: girl speak, Naisha, who is– they have this one program.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's called– God, it's slipping my mind right now.
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  Speaker 1: Adelante School, it's kids from Lawrence who, you know, come from,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a lower class, right, don't have a lot
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  Speaker 1: of opportunity, and they pay for them to go to school.
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  Speaker 1: And this girl got up there and spoke, and she
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  Speaker 1: was so well-spoken. I mean, you know, they have her
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  Speaker 1: speak to kind of tell what she does, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and it's to raise money so people can see that
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  Speaker 1: and be like, I want to donate. I want to
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  Speaker 1: give money to help that program, to help kids like Nyesha.
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  Speaker 1: And she didn't even have to like– not that she
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  Speaker 1: was up there like you need to give money, but
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  Speaker 1: just the way that she spoke and what she spoke
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  Speaker 1: about at her age was amazing. Like I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: give money to her, you know, to that program. It
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  Speaker 1: was just really impressive. And, you know, I thought I
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  Speaker 1: did a good job. People seemed to really enjoy it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I was a Y kid growing up. My
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  Speaker 1: dad still goes to the Y. He used to bring
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  Speaker 1: me as a kid. So, you know, learned how to
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  Speaker 1: swim there, went there after school. And my dad's been
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  Speaker 1: going for over 50 years. I think 55 years he's
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  Speaker 1: been going to the YMCA, still every day. So I
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  Speaker 1: opened it by, well, introducing myself and then explaining that
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  Speaker 1: my dad lives by himself now, right? Well, his sister
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  Speaker 1: lives on the first floor, but my grandmother passed. So
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  Speaker 1: he lives upstairs by himself. And we're trying to get
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  Speaker 1: him to sell the house and move up to where
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  Speaker 1: I am and my brother and his grandkids because he's
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  Speaker 1: getting older. And he won't for one reason. the YMCA
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  Speaker 1: in Malden. And I go, dad, there's other wise, right?
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  Speaker 1: I go, there's, there's a YMCA in Andover. That's where
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  Speaker 1: I was doing the gala and over country club. And
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  Speaker 1: he's like, it's not the same. You know, these are,
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  Speaker 1: these are people I've had friendships with for decades, people
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  Speaker 1: that he met as a kid at the YMCA and
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  Speaker 1: they still go together. So it's a, it's a whole community.
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  Speaker 1: And so we got to work on them with that.
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  Speaker 1: And then I told him how, uh, I told him
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  Speaker 1: I was hosting the gala for it. And he was
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  Speaker 1: more excited for that than me being on the radio,
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  Speaker 1: getting a job on the, on the radio, uh, being
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  Speaker 1: the commencement speaker at my college, like that's how much
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  Speaker 1: the Y means to him. So it was cool to
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  Speaker 1: tell those stories and then go into all of the
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  Speaker 1: programs that the YMCA offers. It was just, it was really,
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  Speaker 1: really cool. You know, obviously I go there, I'm paid
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  Speaker 1: to be there, but to be a part of that,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we raised thousands and thousands of dollars. I
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  Speaker 1: auctioned off jingle ball tickets. We announced it on Friday
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  Speaker 1: and it was cool to be there and, and, you know,
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  Speaker 1: auction them off and a bunch of, uh, Bunch of
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  Speaker 1: cool people, man. Bunch of listeners. Just a really, really good,
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  Speaker 1: good night. So that was the kickoff to my weekend. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: producer Riley is going to be coming in in a minute.
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  Speaker 1: She's just finishing up the show. I wanted to check
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  Speaker 1: in with her on her date. We talked about that earlier.
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  Speaker 1: But what's going on with all of you? Mike from
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  Speaker 1: New Hampshire.
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  Speaker 2: Justin just wanted to play this on the after show
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  Speaker 2: in case it's not played on the big show with
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  Speaker 2: all the talkbacks coming in. I won Jigga Ball tickets
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  Speaker 2: today with McCabe. And this could be my 10th Jingle Ball.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so excited. Can't wait to see Nickelback. And I
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  Speaker 2: hope I get to see you all somewhere at a
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  Speaker 2: pre-party or after-party or something. I don't know. I know
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  Speaker 2: it's crazy busy for you guys, so that probably won't happen.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm going to my 10th Jingle Ball. Woo-hoo!
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, congratulations, Mike. We gave out tickets all weekend long.
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  Speaker 1: That's great. It's going to be a great show. I think,
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  Speaker 1: you know, there's always people that talk shit. Always, no
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  Speaker 1: matter what the lineup is. You cannot please everybody. But
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  Speaker 1: I feel like it's... overwhelmingly more positive for this lineup,
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  Speaker 1: which is very, very cool. I think Nickelback is a
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  Speaker 1: good throwback. Hilary Duff, Millennials, and then Sombra. So it's
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  Speaker 1: kind of hitting all different. And then we have K-Poppers.
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  Speaker 1: We have Adela, who's like the Olivia Dean of 2026.
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  Speaker 1: She is blowing up. We just have something for everybody.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it's a great lineup. Remember, tomorrow morning,
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  Speaker 1: 10 a.m., the Capital One presale. The show is going
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  Speaker 1: to sell out. It always does. That's just what– I
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  Speaker 1: don't think– it's like we don't have to sell the lineup.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's obviously the most important thing. But Jingle
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  Speaker 1: Ball is just a holiday tradition. Like you want to
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  Speaker 1: be there. You're going to have FOMO if you don't go.
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  Speaker 1: So tomorrow morning, 10 a.m., the Capital One pre-sale. Congratulations
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  Speaker 1: to Matt. Congratulations to Mike.
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  Speaker 3: Hi, Justin.
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  Speaker 4: I've been so excited to tell you this. Today is
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  Speaker 4: 43 days of absolutely no alcohol. You have been a
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  Speaker 4: huge inspiration for that. I had my daughter's birthday party
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  Speaker 4: this past weekend. I had so much anxiety about it.
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  Speaker 4: It was going to be my first party without alcohol,
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  Speaker 4: and I did it. I showed myself I don't need it.
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  Speaker 4: I could still talk to people.
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  Speaker 3: It was awesome. I'm feeling just so happy, so thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Congratulations. That warms my heart so much.
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  Speaker 1: I love it so much. I love it, love it,
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  Speaker 1: love it, love it, love it. It's the coolest thing
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  Speaker 1: that I get to do on the radio in this
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  Speaker 1: cool-ass job. It's not the famous people. It's not the
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  Speaker 1: fame and the glitz and the glamour and the perks.
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  Speaker 1: It's the fact that I get to share my story
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  Speaker 1: and the message that anybody can get sober, they can
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  Speaker 1: get clean, they can live a better life. I am
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  Speaker 1: a perfect example of that because I was at the
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  Speaker 1: very bottom. I was very near death with no hope
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  Speaker 1: of ever doing anything with my life. And I was
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  Speaker 1: able to turn it around one day at a time. OK,
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  Speaker 1: so when I hear things like that, I'm like they
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  Speaker 1: hear the message. They hear my message and I can
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  Speaker 1: be some kind of inspiration to them. And that means
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  Speaker 1: more to me than anything else. I say that with
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  Speaker 1: 100 percent conviction. I believe that. Oh, God, I love
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  Speaker 1: that so much.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Justin, this isn't for the radio, I don't think.
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  Speaker 1: But is it is it is it for the after show? Well,
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  Speaker 1: everything's for the after show. That's why we're here.
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  Speaker 3: Just saw a TikTok of Maddie talking to the Globe
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  Speaker 3: about leaving the show. And I am absolutely stunned and
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  Speaker 3: disgusted because I have respect for him even though I
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  Speaker 3: did think it was time for him to leave. But
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  Speaker 3: some of the shade being thrown, I was really upset.
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  Speaker 1: I have some thoughts. I do have some thoughts. I
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  Speaker 1: don't really know– that it's necessary to do all that. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I love Matt, you know, he never really
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  Speaker 1: did anything to me. He had a big falling out
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  Speaker 1: with Billy and Lisa. A lot of people have opinions
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  Speaker 1: on that, you know, but no one really knows the
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  Speaker 1: truth of what happened. Billy and Lisa don't speak publicly
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  Speaker 1: about it and that's their, their right. But I think
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  Speaker 1: it's pretty clear what happened. I mean, we've talked about
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  Speaker 1: this at, at, at length on this podcast, right? If
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  Speaker 1: you've listened to like other podcasts out there about the
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  Speaker 1: story of him and his career and all the stuff
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  Speaker 1: that happened, you know, It just was enough. It was
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  Speaker 1: enough for them. And I know that other people see
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  Speaker 1: and they may think to themselves, like, why don't they
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  Speaker 1: talk to him? Like they were friends for so long
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  Speaker 1: and they were best friends. And yeah, they were. But
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  Speaker 1: were they? You know, was it were the issues going
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  Speaker 1: on for a long time? Yes. Yes. And then there
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  Speaker 1: was the final straw. And I think he would agree.
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  Speaker 1: He would agree that, you know, it was it was
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  Speaker 1: too long. He stayed too long. And I talked about
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  Speaker 1: that too. I did. It was like I just stayed
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  Speaker 1: too long. I waited until– it was too late and
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  Speaker 1: things happened. But– hold on. Our producer Riley just walked in.
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  Speaker 1: Hold on, Riley. I'm giving a little spiel right here.
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  Speaker 1: People waited too long. He waited too long on the
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  Speaker 1: air and that's what happened. And I don't get the
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  Speaker 1: tactic now. Obviously, he has a show this week. It's
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  Speaker 1: not really selling well, which I assume is why he's
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  Speaker 1: doing what he's doing. But– And two years ago in 2024,
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  Speaker 1: he sat down for an interview there and he was quoted.
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  Speaker 1: I have it right here in front of me. He
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  Speaker 1: was saying, Billy and Lisa have the show. I'm happy
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  Speaker 1: for them. I don't want to cramp their style. Then
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  Speaker 1: he goes on and said, Billy and I were best friends.
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  Speaker 1: We had a falling out. Had to do with something
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  Speaker 1: that I don't want to put out there. But Billy
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  Speaker 1: and Lisa said some really nice things about me when
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  Speaker 1: I got in the Hall of Fame. I'm totally cool
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  Speaker 1: with Billy. He was a major talent, and I couldn't
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  Speaker 1: have done it without Billy and Lisa and the people
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  Speaker 1: that preceded them. That is quoted, okay, in the Boston
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  Speaker 1: Globe in his own words. And now all of a
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  Speaker 1: sudden he announces a show out of nowhere, and, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's not doing that well. And now he's like, you know, saying, oh, well,
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  Speaker 1: they turned their back on me. And I don't know, man.
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  Speaker 1: I just feel like such a legend like that, right?
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  Speaker 1: Like he's such a legend, and he has a legacy.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that even though it didn't end the
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  Speaker 1: way that he wanted it, He still left like on
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  Speaker 1: top with his legacy. And all these years later, they
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  Speaker 1: come back and first say that he wishes them all
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  Speaker 1: the best and then switching it up to saying this.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, dude, like you made it. You know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean? Like you had the legendary career and even
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  Speaker 1: though it did not end the way you wanted it to,
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  Speaker 1: look where you're at, man. You got money. You got
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  Speaker 1: your family. I should say family before money, but family. money,
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  Speaker 1: a beautiful house in Florida, got a golf course, like
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  Speaker 1: everything's all good, but like, it's not enough. It's not enough.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you got to come back and like ruffle feathers.
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  Speaker 1: And honestly, they don't even care. Like it's honestly, it's not,
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  Speaker 1: I see some people posting about it, but it's not
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  Speaker 1: like it was two or three years ago because he
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  Speaker 1: did five shows after 2022 and did not ever was
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  Speaker 1: never truthful about what happened. And people paid money to
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  Speaker 1: see that. And now all of a sudden he's going
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  Speaker 1: to do this final show and what he's going to
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  Speaker 1: be honest about what happened. I mean, if you listen
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  Speaker 1: to this podcast, you probably know, you probably know what happened.
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  Speaker 1: Like he went wild. He went nuts. He was here
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  Speaker 1: too long, right? He was taking shots at people's kids.
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  Speaker 1: He was taking shots at people's wives and their families and,
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  Speaker 1: And just pushed it way too far. And when he
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  Speaker 1: was asked to stop, he didn't stop. See, in the episode,
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  Speaker 1: he talks about the boss, him quitting. And he says,
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  Speaker 1: the boss said, hey, you need to stop. And it
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  Speaker 1: was like, do you know who I am? Do you
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  Speaker 1: know who I am? I'm not going to stop. And
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  Speaker 1: then he quit on the air and came right back
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  Speaker 1: the next day. Well, when he was confronted by people
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  Speaker 1: on the show, like, hey, you need to stop. He
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  Speaker 1: didn't say, okay, I got you. It was like, F you,
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: I invented you. And you're trying to ruin me and dah, dah, dah, dah.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: And then it was like, he forced their hand. And
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: then they just moved on and it is what it is.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't speak for them as to
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: why they don't want to talk to him anymore. But
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Just not a good look, man. Just
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: not a good look at all. So that's my response
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: to that. Welcome, Producer Riley. Sorry for that. You walked
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: right in. This is a fast-moving show here. All right.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: There's things going on in this podcast.
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: There's.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: There's talkbacks that I'm playing. I got people walking in.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to get you in here, but you're busy.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: There's a lot going on. But how are you doing?
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: I'm good. How are you?
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: I'm doing very, very well.
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: So a lot of people asking about the Maddie stuff?
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: No, I got one talkback.
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: It's not really getting traction.
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: Is it the one that you played earlier?
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It wasn't getting any traction, but then
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: the globe started hitting the TikToks with it. And now
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: people are like, you know, they're kind of sharing it around.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: But for the most part, I think people just... Tell
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: you a fun fact, okay, Producer Riley? It doesn't matter
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: if you're Howard Stern or Matt Siegel or any other legend, right?
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: The way that media works is as time goes on,
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: not that people forget, but they just move on.
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: Because life keeps moving on. For example, not to compare
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: them to dying, but when someone passes away, it's a
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: tragic thing and you say goodbye and they're always in
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: your memory. Mm-hmm. But people move on. It's just the
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: way life goes.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: So when he moved on and this show launched, people
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: made a decision whether they're going to stick with this
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: show or they're going to be like, fuck this show.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: A lot of them did.
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: And so they left and then other people stayed. And
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: that's just the way it is now. It's been. Five years.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Like this show is well established. We're number one. Like
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: things are going good. We've moved on like this. We
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: don't need anchors like this to hold us back. We
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: don't care. The ratings are going to come in this week.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: Number one again. Right. Well, we hustle on this show.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: It isn't like F him or anything. It's like, yeah,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: we're just doing our job, you know?
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Not necessarily like in response to that, like our
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: show particularly, but there's always going to be a shiny
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: new thing that people care about.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: It's literally the plot of Toy Story. Oh, sorry.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Five.
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: No. All the toy stories where he gets the new
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: Buzz Lightyear and he's like, I'm done with you, Woody.
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: It's literally the entire plot.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's not like a negative thing. It's, it's, it's,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Howard Stern is still on the air. When he retires,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: it's going to be this huge goodbye. He'll always be
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: like the best of all time. But in six months
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: or a year, it's going to be who replaced them
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: and who made the decision to stay and who didn't
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: and then the new audience. And by the way, I
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: feel like when people chose to stay or leave, the
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: ones that left, we got three, four, five times the
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: amount of people back to the radio because it was
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: a new show with new people. Well, not new people,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: but just a new show, new style of show.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: How was your weekend? You went to role model. That
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: was good.
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: I went to role model. It was really good. I
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: thought it was going to get canceled. So I did
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: have like the mindset on Sunday of being like, well,
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: not going to that. And then he posted on his
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: Instagram story and was like. Don't worry, Boston. We still
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: are going to do it. And I was like, kind
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: of a little bit at first, like, no, I want
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: to go.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: I know. That's how I felt about the Noah Kahn show.
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: It's a Sunday night.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: It's raining. Remember the Noah Kahn rain show?
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: That's how I felt about that. It was awful.
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: Awful. Well, great show. But like being there in the rain.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: And that was outside.
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah. That's, I kind of forgot. I think that I've
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: been to the pavilion, Leader Bank Pavilion, but I don't know.
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: I don't really remember. If I've gone to a show there,
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: it's been one show. So I didn't remember anything about
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: that venue. I didn't realize it was like kind of
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: completely covered, which was at least nice. I couldn't tell
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: you were looking out through the door.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: People are always peering into the– yes. Would they like
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: to come in? They peer through the window. Who is it?
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I just see heads that appear. I'm
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: very sought after.
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: No, you really are. I mean I do it too.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: So it was under the tent, right, at Leader Bank?
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: And I was in the pit. So look at you,
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: which I didn't realize that's where the tickets were because
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: I didn't buy them from the radio station. No. Oh,
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: we bought me. Kelly bought them.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: You wait. You bought the ticket and didn't realize they
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: were in the pit.
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: Well i didn't buy the tickets i just paid her
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: for the ticket and she's i think she said like
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: oh i got ga so i was like oh okay
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: because i kind of thought like it was just going
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: to be one of those like oh it's like a
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: big general admission and then i saw oh there's seats
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: at leader bank in the ga so then i was
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: like i have no idea what's happening here um i
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: still have this wristband on because i couldn't get it
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: off last night.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah and you got the merch on.
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: Too and i have the merch on um this merch
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: surprisingly cheap i mean forty dollars for a t-shirt but
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: for merch that's cheap i didn't really love any of the.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Cheap quality or cheap.
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: Just in price cheap for price how's.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: The quality is it gildan Let's see if it's, that's
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: how you know. If it's Gildan, then let me see.
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: They do this fun thing.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's not Gildan.
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: No, it's not. But they do this fun thing where
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: they take off the tag and put like their, like.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, it is Gildan?
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: No, I don't know.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: It doesn't feel, it feels nicer than that.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: It's not like.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Let me see, let me see. It feels nicer than Gildan. Yeah.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: But like with my Bruno Mars merch, I was like,
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: this is a really interesting t-shirt because it's like. fucking
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: massive wide it was pretty and then so i was
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: like huh where well this i got an extra large
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: but the bruno mars one is literally massive it's like
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: a dress and i was like what like because it
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: it's like a weird fabric and i was like what
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: is this and it doesn't say on the tag it
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: just says bruno mars Why are you– what are you hiding?
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: So do you think it's Gildan or no? The Bruno one. No,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: the Bruno. No, it's not.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: You can tell if it's Gildan. I'll never forget. Never, never, never. Yeah, Kanye.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: I went to the Kanye show and he always had
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: the best merch and it was Gildan. I was so disappointed.
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: It's not worth your money.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: No, Gildan sucks.
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: It's annoying.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: As soon as you wash and dry it, it's done.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: It's done. Yeah. Yeah, and I feel like I can–
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: I do appreciate artists who put time and effort into
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: their merch. I just like– He had a lot of stuff,
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: but I didn't, like, love any of it. But I
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: didn't want to, like, not buy something.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: I think that shirt's good. It's very, like, it's a
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: black and white photo of him sitting in, like, a
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: dressing room. Yeah.
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: It says Chuck Fever on it. And it has the
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: tour dates on the back. This was the one shirt
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: that I was like, yeah, I like it.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Why do you have XL, though? Do you like them big?
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: You're definitely not an XL. No, I'm not. You might be, like,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: probably a medium.
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: I'm a medium. Yeah. But I like to wear things big.
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: My one big gripe with Tormurch, and then we can
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: move on from this, is... They've been doing this really
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: funny thing, and this is just like shirts in general,
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: is you get an extra large and it's just long.
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: It's skinny and it's long. I don't want that. I
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: want it to be wide. I want it to be
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: just as wide as it is long. Why is it skinny?
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: Because then I can't wear it like oversized and just
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: like as a shirt over my pants.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always different. All the fits are different.
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: It's so bothersome. And I love Noah Khan and I
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: like comfort colors, but his shirts are all like that.
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: I'm like, why are they skinny and long?
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: This is not comfortable. So who has the best merch?
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: In your opinion, what artist had the best merch?
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: Surprisingly, and I don't condone him, but one of my
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: favorite merch t-shirts is from Zach Bryan.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: Because it's wide. I got like a large and it's
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: wide and it's long, but it's not like, it's not skinny.
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: And I also like the fit of the Bruno Mars.
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: I definitely could have gotten, I got an extra large
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: in that too. Definitely could have gotten.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Does it swim on you? A little.
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: You've seen me wear it. Okay.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think about it.
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: It's very big on me.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: You know what the best piece of merch that I have? Yeah.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Is the Taylor Swift one.
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Taylor. Taylor does really good with merch quality. I
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: sometimes don't love her designs.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: But her quality of merch is really good. Five Sauce.
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: I have a hoodie from them, a zip up, and
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: that's like really, really good merch.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. She sent a box of Era's Tour clothes here.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: And I was like, huh. And I just took a
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: long sleeve one. And it's literally just a black shirt
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: with her entire body.
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: On it yeah it's the torture poet it fits so
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: good yeah you wear it like once a week i
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: love it and.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: People like thinking like oh you a big swifty it's
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: like no i like taylor but the shirt i like
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: the fit uh the artist that has the best merch
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: is for me is travis scott okay travis scott puts
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: a lot of like effort into.
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: His merch are we talking design are we talking fit Both. Okay.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: But I'm more concerned with the fit because some of
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: his designs I don't like, but he really goes in
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: on it. And obviously he has a partnership with Nike.
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: Oh, that's nice.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: But his merch always sells out. That's how it was
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: with Kanye too back in the day, but I don't
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: know what happened with him. Yeah. So that's good. You
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: also had a date this weekend.
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: I did go on a date. So I actually didn't
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: say this on air because I didn't want Billy to
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: talk about it because I felt a little bad about it.
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: But I actually went on a third date with that
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: other guy.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Coffee time.
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: I just didn't say.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: When though?
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: I had gone on two dates with him and then
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: I went on a first date with that other guy
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: and then I went on a third date with the
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: first guy.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Okay. I see what you mean.
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but I didn't want Billy to say that. I
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: don't really know why.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: It doesn't really matter. That's not the point of the story.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: The point of the story is that you went on
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: dates with both guys and you liked the first one
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: better and you didn't know how to break it to
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: the other guy. So what did you decide?
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: I did text him.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: What did you say?
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: I said, so I went out with him on Saturday
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: and I didn't answer till today. So I said, hey,
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: sorry to take a day to get back to you.
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: I really enjoyed going out on Saturday, but truthfully, I
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: didn't see much of a connection. I thought you were
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: great and hope you find your person. And he said,
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: I appreciate you letting me know. It was nice meeting you.
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: Wish you all the best.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: See that? Perfect ending.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Perfect ending. So much, so much. It's not as
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: easy as ghosting, but way better than ghosting.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: And it like. that's the thing. And I've, I've ghosted
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: people in the past, obviously, but like not since I've
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: felt like I've like grown up and been an adult. Um,
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: ghosting is very easy. And like, it's honestly ghosting as
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: the ghoster. It's like no skin off your back. You're like,
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: I don't care. I don't have to talk to them
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: ever again. And I had friends. So I went and
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: saw my friend Hannah after this date. And I was like,
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: what do I say? Like, I feel kind of weird. Like,
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: Kind of like like you've met somebody once and then
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: it's like, OK, now what? Like now what? How do
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: you end it? You don't know this person. And she
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: was like, just don't answer. And I was like, well, really?
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: And she was like, I've had this conversation with people
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: and she's like, I think it's fine. You don't really
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: owe them anything. You met them once. And I kind
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: of get it. But also, I'm just like, I wouldn't
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: want that to happen to me.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: I could I could kind of see one date. You
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: go out with somebody and you ghost them after one.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: It doesn't make it right.
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: But it's worse if you go on multiple dates.
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: Oh, completely agree.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: And build some kind of connection and.
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: Then you're gone.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: One date in a ghost, honestly, it's whatever. At the
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: end of the day, it's like I don't know this person.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Whatever.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: I don't care. I just didn't want to do it
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: because he was nice and like– Yeah. And also like
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: he knows I work here and like not that we're like–
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: Not that I'm like a public figure or anything, but
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: like I also don't want it to get back to
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: me that like Riley's the bitch, the ghost people.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, I know. You don't want that, man. No. No,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: you have to think about that kind of stuff. I
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: know you don't think you're a public figure, but you
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: do because you don't want to end up on Reddit threads. Exactly.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: That's what happens.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: Well, the funny thing is I was at a coffee
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: shop with this guy and– A listener DM'd me after
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: and said, I was sitting right next to you on
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: your date. I hope it went well. Didn't want to
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: bother you.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Wait, is this coffee time or the other guy?
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: The other guy. Yeah.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: Oh, wow.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: And you got spotted in the pit at Role Model. Yeah. Yeah,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: that's what happens.
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: But I'm like, oh, people do recognize me.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Well, it's just you have not that you're a good person.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: I know you are. And I try to be a
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: good person. But that's always on my mind, too. Like,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: especially with Road Rage. Not that I have road rage,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: but there's been a couple of times where I'm in
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: a bad mood and someone cuts me off or something,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: and I have that thought to be like, fuck you
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: or something, and then I pull back.
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: You're like, what if somebody recognizes you?
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Well, someone's phone's going to go up. They're going to
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: start recording. That's the thing.
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: Well, somebody DM'd me. I don't know if it was
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: the same girl that left that talk back and said
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: that she saw me. Because I'm always looking around, too,
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: and I kept making really awkward eye contact with people
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: at Role Model before it started. She was like, I
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: saw you at the pit hot. And I was like, oh,
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: my God. Is this one of these people that I
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: felt like I was making such awkward eye contact with?
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: If it was you, I'm sorry. Was it the girl
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: that left the talk back?
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: Oh, probably.
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: Probably. But she DM'd me, and I was like, that's
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: so funny.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: All right. So now there'll be another date with coffee time.
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, probably.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Nice. Where was the– so coffee shop first date. Second
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: date was– you told us, but I forget.
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: Tuscan.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Tuscan. And then what was third date?
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: We got dinner at the Irish Cottage.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Okay. Oh, I love Irish Cottage.
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: It's so good.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's so good.
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: It's like– yeah.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Well, I like this. You're moving right along there.
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah. He's really nice.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: That's good. So, okay. Final question.
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Will you continue to go out with guys right now?
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: I know that's the thing. Again, I'm not good at
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: having a roster. I'm not good at playing the field.
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: And that's not to say that you shouldn't do that.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Just ride this one out.
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: To each their own. But that's kind of how I feel.
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: I'm like, why would I not take the time to
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: invest into something if I like him?
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Correct.
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: So I'm like.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Correct. And I think you said it best on the
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: show this morning that you're comfortable being alone. Yeah. Obviously
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: you want to meet somebody, but you're 100 percent OK
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: being with yourself. And I think that's important.
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: Oh, for sure.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: So many people are so desperate. They have to find somebody.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: That just means you're not comfortable in your own skin
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: and you need somebody else's validation or maybe you're codependent.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: But it's OK to be– Constantly dating somebody seems exhausting.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Oh my God. I have a friend going through it
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: right now and he's had enough and he's had a
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: lot of success like meeting girls, hooking up with girls,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: like having a great time. And he's like, I'm done.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: It's so much work.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: So much work. And by the way, I'll be like
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: driving with him the other day. Every time I look over,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: he's swiping.
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: That's crazy.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Constantly swiping.
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: I actually, one of my good friends is in like
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: in the dating world and she doesn't really date like
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: a ton of people. Like if she's dating somebody for
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: like a couple dates, she's usually just dating that person.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: But she's also– she's like really on the apps and
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: I don't know how she does it. Like she'll be like, oh,
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: I'm going on a date today. I'm going on a date.
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: Usually it's like first dates and like sometimes they'll go
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: into more. But I'm like, are you not tired?
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: It's tiring.
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: How do you do that?
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: It sounds tiring and I'm not even doing it.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: Like constantly just like talking about yourself and then if
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: you don't like the person, like pretending to be interested
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: in that. and trying to like, and then if it's awkward,
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: you're like really like feeling like you're pulling teeth. It's like,
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: oh my God, it's so annoying.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, got it. It sounds tiring. It really does. It
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: really does.
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: Before we go, because I know you have a time limit,
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: I want to tell you this story about how I
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: completely put my foot in my mouth, though, on this
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: third date with this guy.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, let's hear it. Wait, this is coffee time guy?
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead.
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: Again, I like him, but I felt so bad when
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: I did this. So we were at dinner, and previously
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: he had talked about one of his sisters and how
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: his sister was moving back home from out of state.
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: And I said, oh, does she have her own place
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: or like whatever? And he said, oh, she's moving back
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: in with my dad. I was like, oh, okay. And
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: then I never followed up about that. But in my head,
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: I was like, your parents must be divorced, right? So
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: at dinner, he was like talking about how his parents
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: used to play music in the house growing up. And
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: I went, oh, are your parents still together? And he went, oh.
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: And I went, I'm just asking because you said that
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: your sister moved back in with your dad to your
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: dad's house. He went– Um, it's actually just my dad.
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: My mom died.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I knew that. I knew you were going to
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: say that. Yeah. Well, you didn't know.
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: No, I know. But I was like, uh, yeah. So
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: I went, was this recently? He went last year.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Oh my God.
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: I was mortified.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. What do you say? Sorry for your loss.
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: That's literally what I said. I went, Oh my God,
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: that was so recent. I'm so sorry for your loss.
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: And he went, that's okay. And then he was kind
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: of trying to like, be like, like gently telling me
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: he's not talking about it and i wasn't expecting like
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: i was like i never wanted to put him in
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: a position to feel like he had to talk about
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: it so he's like oh like you know it's something
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: that we could talk about and i was like no
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: no no no i was like you answered my question
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: do not feel like you have to like explain yourself
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: at all oh man like i was like i'm so
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: sorry and i was like we can just move on
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: if i could have.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Just seen your face in that moment.
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: I literally was like yeah What do you say?
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: It's like you start asking questions and then you get
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: the answer. I know.
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: I felt so bad.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: That's funny. All right. Well, keep us updated on the
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: dating life. We're into it. I think our listeners are too.
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: We've got a lot of talkbacks about that.
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I know. That was good. And I really needed
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: that advice. So thank you for anybody who felt like
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: they wanted to chime in.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Asked and answered.
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: All right. Have a great day. Hey, drive safe. It
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: looks like fucking crazy out there.
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: I know. Why is it picking up all of a sudden?
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: I know. It's like the Nor'easter is still here. Literally. Oh,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: it's so annoying. All right. Drive safe. And after show Army,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: we'll talk tomorrow. Send the talk back soon. As always, bye-bye.